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Tankdan
12-07-2016, 07:05 AM
No more of this One Hour To Kill, 24 Hours to Engage Statue, Locked Out on mobs, Rotating Veeshan's Peak, bullshit.
You FTE a mob, you bring it in and you kill it... or die trying.
I'm sick of this pussy ass, limp-wristed cuck raiding environment.
Make Raiding Great Again.
1. Remove staff from raid petitions, make it a dps race.
2. Enable PvP in raid areas.
3. Both.
Lhancelot
12-07-2016, 10:30 AM
1. Remove staff from raid petitions, make it a dps race.
2. Enable PvP in raid areas.
3. Both.
A high percentage of people that play on a pve server when they have the option to play on a pvp server are afraid of pvp.
You could never make raid areas pvp enabled, if you did this on p99 blue, it would end up with the population red has.
Coming from many games that had pvp/pve servers, I know the ones who enjoy pvp are a very small minority, which is sad because pvp does add a vast element of variance to the game.
In pvp every encounter has a chance to have something occur that has never occured before, that's why pvp is fun. Every fight is unscripted.
That being said, the majority of gamers are bluebies and will never pvp. They like pve only.
Fazlazen
12-07-2016, 10:48 AM
No more of this One Hour To Kill, 24 Hours to Engage Statue, Locked Out on mobs, Rotating Veeshan's Peak, bullshit.
You FTE a mob, you bring it in and you kill it... or die trying.
I'm sick of this pussy ass, limp-wristed cuck raiding environment.
Make Raiding Great Again.
Signed
FatMice
12-07-2016, 10:50 AM
No more of this One Hour To Kill, 24 Hours to Engage Statue, Locked Out on mobs, Rotating Veeshan's Peak, bullshit.
You FTE a mob, you bring it in and you kill it... or die trying.
I'm sick of this pussy ass, limp-wristed cuck raiding environment.
Make Raiding Great Again.
+1
Daldaen
12-07-2016, 10:52 AM
2-4 hour respawn on all raid mobs. No proximity camping or tracker FTE rules. No hour lock in rules. No kiting or stalling rules. If you want to kite Klandicar for 10 hours to stick a slow on him have fun. If you want to do Cekenar with 10 people and kill him 30 minutes later, have fun. Hell if you just want to run Dain around for an hour, have fun.
The only rules that really need to exist are no intentional training in Kael or ToV and no Memblurring raid mobs. Feel free to train in unpopulated zones like Zlandicar's and Klandicars and Veeshan's Peak and Yelinak and Dain. Just don't mess up the zone for casuals doing HoT or Kael Arena.
If that isn't going to happen, the petition system could use revamped. Once a guild officer or leader shouts or sends a tell or Skype message asking for a concede one of two things needs to occur. 1. The mob is conceded. 2. A guild eats a 10 day suspension.
Once the Concede word is used, and the mob isn't conceded you should be required to file a petition at which point Sirken will rule you're right and suspend the other guild, or you're wrong and suspend your guild for wasting his time. Far too often will guilds just ask for a concede without knowing WTF is happening. If you don't file a petition you should be suspended 10 days for crying wolf. People need to get it through their heads before you ask for a free mob, figure out wtf happened. Would definitely cut down on lawyerquest because you'd have to know damn sure you're right before you engage in lawyerquesting, otherwise you get 10 days off pixelquest and you have to go outside and shit.
Sodors Finest Poster
12-07-2016, 11:19 AM
Make Raiding Great Again
Sure thing.
/q
Legday
12-07-2016, 11:53 AM
No more of this One Hour To Kill, 24 Hours to Engage Statue, Locked Out on mobs, Rotating Veeshan's Peak, bullshit.
You FTE a mob, you bring it in and you kill it... or die trying.
I'm sick of this pussy ass, limp-wristed cuck raiding environment.
Make Raiding Great Again.
YES. Live FTE's for all!
Once the Concede word is used, and the mob isn't conceded you should be required to file a petition at which point Sirken will rule you're right and suspend the other guild, or you're wrong and suspend your guild for wasting his time. Far too often will guilds just ask for a concede without knowing WTF is happening. If you don't file a petition you should be suspended 10 days for crying wolf. People need to get it through their heads before you ask for a free mob, figure out wtf happened. Would definitely cut down on lawyerquest because you'd have to know damn sure you're right before you engage in lawyerquesting, otherwise you get 10 days off pixelquest and you have to go outside and shit.
Current CSR has proven far too inept to rule correctly, or even understand their own raid rules, so there is no way this would work as intended without a new raid scene CSR person that has seen it and knows the rules.
Ravager
12-07-2016, 12:06 PM
The non-classic solution that would fix everything: Give raid mobs 28 minute PH's and make them a camp like everything else in the game. If one guild wants to devote the lives of 100 people keeping 1 mob on 24 hour lockdown, so be it, at least they won't be shitting on the rest of the raid scene in the process.
No more of this guaranteed spawn free handout vending machine loot pinata bullshit. Make people earn their pixels.
The p99 raid scene is policed and predominantly played by Liberals. What else did you expect. Cucking it up was just a matter of time.
Kagey
12-07-2016, 12:12 PM
Talking in circles. People earn their loot more then ever with the current fte race system..
icedwards
12-07-2016, 12:13 PM
The non-classic solution that would fix everything: Give raid mobs 28 minute PH's and make them a camp like everything else in the game. If one guild wants to devote the lives of 100 people keeping 1 mob on 24 hour lockdown, so be it, at least they won't be shitting on the rest of the raid scene in the process.
No more of this guaranteed spawn free handout vending machine loot pinata bullshit. Make people earn their pixels.
Your suggestion is literally a guaranteed spawn free handout vending machine loot pinata bullshit
indiscriminate_hater
12-07-2016, 12:37 PM
sorry, I only read 68-page-plus manifestos on how the raid scene should work
Ravager
12-07-2016, 12:54 PM
logging onto a free hobby server is literally a guaranteed spawn free handout vending machine loot pinata bullshit
skarlorn
12-07-2016, 01:02 PM
I support Sirken's idea of transferring ALL Top end blue guilds to red server. I can't believe no one else is on board with this solution. There you don't have to deal with GMs, stupid rules, and can freely fight your way to victory. Furthermore, it will open up space for more casuals to become hopelessly addicted to this video game, in which they will destroy their real lives in order to form the new order of hyper elite fte'ing Everquest commandos. We will then transfer THOSE sickos to Red, too.
Support the Blue to Red Transfer! Make p99 Great Again!
snead
12-07-2016, 01:19 PM
1. Remove staff from raid petitions, make it a dps race.
2. Enable PvP in raid areas.
3. Both.
Big ups for 1. shit's classic. pvp might be fun too.
Fifield
12-07-2016, 01:28 PM
No more of this One Hour To Kill, 24 Hours to Engage Statue, Locked Out on mobs, Rotating Veeshan's Peak, bullshit.
You FTE a mob, you bring it in and you kill it... or die trying.
I'm sick of this pussy ass, limp-wristed cuck raiding environment.
Make Raiding Great Again.
Yup, +1.
Even when you get a fte right now its so anticlimatic. shits lame as fuuuck.
arsenalpow
12-07-2016, 01:29 PM
Yup, +1.
Even when you get a fte right now its so anticlimatic. shits lame as fuuuck.
Stop playing on p99 jerk
Joyelle
12-07-2016, 01:37 PM
No more of this One Hour To Kill, 24 Hours to Engage Statue, Locked Out on mobs, Rotating Veeshan's Peak, bullshit.
You FTE a mob, you bring it in and you kill it... or die trying.
I'm sick of this pussy ass, limp-wristed cuck raiding environment.
Make Raiding Great Again.
I'd agree with this if they also do away with the 20 min ownership rule on AoW after Statue dies. That would make Kael 100 times more fun!
Ravager
12-07-2016, 01:56 PM
I support Sirken's idea of transferring ALL Top end blue guilds to red server. I can't believe no one else is on board with this solution. There you don't have to deal with GMs, stupid rules, and can freely fight your way to victory. Furthermore, it will open up space for more casuals to become hopelessly addicted to this video game, in which they will destroy their real lives in order to form the new order of hyper elite fte'ing Everquest commandos. We will then transfer THOSE sickos to Red, too.
Support the Blue to Red Transfer! Make p99 Great Again!
We don't always see eye to eye, but +1. Maybe it'd stop all the Try Red shit posts on the blue boards in the process.
Legday
12-07-2016, 04:05 PM
Dropping bombs on the staff.
Ban this worthless sack of human filth.
Bring it.
skarlorn
12-07-2016, 04:06 PM
i'm like wehave united in love on this common ground. i actually think its a bretty cud idea
FatMice
12-07-2016, 04:19 PM
The p99 raid scene is policed and predominantly played by Liberals. What else did you expect. Cucking it up was just a matter of time.
Skew... come on... don't bash the staff...
Teako
12-07-2016, 07:10 PM
A high percentage of people that play on a pve server when they have the option to play on a pvp server are afraid of pvp.
You could never make raid areas pvp enabled, if you did this on p99 blue, it would end up with the population red has.
Coming from many games that had pvp/pve servers, I know the ones who enjoy pvp are a very small minority, which is sad because pvp does add a vast element of variance to the game.
In pvp every encounter has a chance to have something occur that has never occured before, that's why pvp is fun. Every fight is unscripted.
That being said, the majority of gamers are bluebies and will never pvp. They like pve only.
This may be the stupidest thing I've ever read in the entire history of man kind. PvP is a widely sought after aspect in mostly every game and enjoyed by nearly all.
EverQuest PVP however was not only completely awful, but abysmally imbalanced. There is not even a semblance of fun to be had in EQ PvP. It has nothing to do with "being scared" - it has everything to do with "being absolutely garbage."
Most players in EQ enjoy a game of League, or DOTA2.. Others enjoy FPS stylings such as battlefield, COD, Halo, etc. All of these are PVP games.
It has nothing to do with "being afraid to pvp" - EverQuest pvp is not fun. It encourages twinked to the teeth assholes to sit around griefing every new player off the server to stroke their e-peen. Even with a ridiculously non classic EXP bonus Red is still crumbling to dust; and for good reason. It is not fun. The Red community is killing itself with toxic players, and MPK.
Bruno
12-07-2016, 07:54 PM
This may be the stupidest thing I've ever read in the entire history of man kind. PvP is a widely sought after aspect in mostly every game and enjoyed by nearly all.
EverQuest PVP however was not only completely awful, but abysmally imbalanced. There is not even a semblance of fun to be had in EQ PvP. It has nothing to do with "being scared" - it has everything to do with "being absolutely garbage."
Most players in EQ enjoy a game of League, or DOTA2.. Others enjoy FPS stylings such as battlefield, COD, Halo, etc. All of these are PVP games.
It has nothing to do with "being afraid to pvp" - EverQuest pvp is not fun. It encourages twinked to the teeth assholes to sit around griefing every new player off the server to stroke their e-peen. Even with a ridiculously non classic EXP bonus Red is still crumbling to dust; and for good reason. It is not fun. The Red community is killing itself with toxic players, and MPK.
Nothing about what he said was stupid really. If anything it was on point. People are afraid to PVP because they are afraid of dying and wasting their time. Most blue players are comfortable not having to deal with what pvp brings. And for sure if they enabled PVP on blue the cesspool that composes the red community would flock to blue and shit it up. You cannot compare a 40 minute moba or fps to something that literally takes years away from your life. That sir, is stupid.
nyclin
12-07-2016, 09:50 PM
Raid scene could be fixed with two steps that Sirken refuses to take:
- work with guild leaders to clarify and finalize rules, post them publicly and keep them up-to-date based on current precedent
- make raid petitions public in a forum that everyone can view
Sirken has been asked multiple times by multiple people on all sides of the raid scene to clarify certain rules, and he has refused again and again. His stated reason for not clarifying rules is that ambiguity reduces the opportunities for people to abuse the rules. Try not to laugh.
Probably 3/4 of the disputes I've seen have been over ambiguity in the rules. The rest were either legitimate rule violations, or disingenuous bullshit. Making raid petitions public reduces the disingenuous bullshit because it adds accountability. Having the rules clarified and posted publicly eliminates the rest of the petitions. End result: Raid scene gets better because people can't simply shout "CONCPDE" whenever they think something isn't going their way.
I eagerly accept my incoming forum ban for having the audacity to question the Will and Authority of Our God Emperor, Sirken.
Red_Messiah
12-07-2016, 10:44 PM
Make a rule and you're accountable for the loopholes nerds are going to find, right?
Nothing is fairer than "last guild standing" when the mob drops
Ella`Ella
12-07-2016, 11:10 PM
Skew... come on... don't bash the staff...
"Server for cucks, by cucks"
Computer Man
12-07-2016, 11:43 PM
"Server for cucks, by cucks"
Sirken's stream is great to get to know some of the forum posters here. I learnt that this guy chews with his mouth open and eats and talks at the same time.
Ella`Ella
12-07-2016, 11:56 PM
Sirken's stream is great to get to know some of the forum posters here. I learnt that this guy chews with his mouth open and eats and talks at the same time.
Need better material, pal. This is RnF - step up your game or go the fuck back to Server Chat.
And, no one else wanted to do Sirken's shitty stream and I'm consistently the best and most notable guest on that stream. I wasn't going to forego eating to entertain you nerds.
Be grateful you got what I gave you.
Computer Man
12-08-2016, 12:01 AM
Need better material, pal. This is RnF - step up your game or go the fuck back to Server Chat.
And, no one else wanted to do Sirken's shitty stream and I'm consistently the best and most notable guest on that stream. I wasn't going to forego eating to entertain you nerds.
Be grateful you got what I gave you.
Bet your keyboard is filthy and clogged up with the remnants of nachos and cookies, sounds like you need to go on a diet.
Ella`Ella
12-08-2016, 12:02 AM
Bet your keyboard is filthy and clogged up with the remnants of nachos and cookies, sounds like you need to go on a diet.
Much better.
Lhancelot
12-08-2016, 12:08 AM
Bet your keyboard is filthy and clogged up with the remnants of nachos and cookies, sounds like you need to go on a diet.
Love it.
Computer Man
12-08-2016, 12:10 AM
Seriously not only did we have to listen to him chewing for an hour but every few minutes he'd turn to his wife and talk about food.
Seek help man, fuck...
Lhancelot
12-08-2016, 12:28 AM
Seriously not only did we have to listen to him chewing for an hour but every few minutes he'd turn to his wife and talk about food.
Seek help man, fuck...
Was he asking her to hand him more food, or was he commenting on how delicious it was?
Bubbles
12-08-2016, 02:40 AM
- make raid petitions public in a forum that everyone can view
This needs to happen, if only for entertainment purposes.
It's actually the best way for Dal's concept to be enforced: You want to involve the staff and take a swing at getting a free mob? The whole server gets the chance to laugh at you if you aren't in the right. And, more importantly, they get the chance to laugh at you even if you are right.
Just close your eyes and imagine Red99 getting the chance to critique blue server raid petitions. This really needs to happen.
Bruno
12-08-2016, 02:50 AM
Re-enable thread tags while we're making changes around here. Make these forums great again.
radda
12-08-2016, 02:50 AM
Nothing about what he said was stupid really. If anything it was on point. People are afraid to PVP because they are afraid of dying and wasting their time. Most blue players are comfortable not having to deal with what pvp brings. And for sure if they enabled PVP on blue the cesspool that composes the red community would flock to blue and shit it up. You cannot compare a 40 minute moba or fps to something that literally takes years away from your life. That sir, is stupid.
You are an idiot
Bruno
12-08-2016, 02:53 AM
You are an idiot
My feelings are hurt.
Bubbles
12-08-2016, 03:19 AM
Re-enable thread tags while we're making changes around here. Make these forums great again.
^^
Sweet Jesus this too! This too, x1000.
Legday
12-08-2016, 10:02 AM
Make live FTEs in ToV great again!
t3kn34k
12-08-2016, 05:20 PM
#BringBackMages
Fifield
12-08-2016, 06:59 PM
Mages are only good so that it isnt the same 5 fast people from each guild racing. It allowed more people to help , see a dragon , click this button.
The real fix is live FTE's and possibly 8hr varience.
KT engage was my favourite, that shit came in so fast.
Daldaen
12-08-2016, 07:10 PM
Dozekar came in fast too.
4 hour variance and live engages would be even better. Enough mobs would pop on top of each other that mob distribution would spread out naturally too.
Hell make it 2 hour variance.
Tasslehofp99
12-08-2016, 07:43 PM
No more of this One Hour To Kill, 24 Hours to Engage Statue, Locked Out on mobs, Rotating Veeshan's Peak, bullshit.
You FTE a mob, you bring it in and you kill it... or die trying.
I'm sick of this pussy ass, limp-wristed cuck raiding environment.
Make Raiding Great Again.
I support this.
The p99 raid scene is policed and predominantly played by Liberals. What else did you expect. Cucking it up was just a matter of time.
lol'd
Ravager
12-08-2016, 07:47 PM
I think the title of this thread is misleading, because there really never was a time in P99's history that raiding has ever been great, unless you were in TMO for those 2 years that nobody bothered to even contest those shitheads.
Erati
12-08-2016, 07:56 PM
Mages are only good so that it isnt the same 5 fast people from each guild racing. It allowed more people to help , see a dragon , click this button.
The real fix is live FTE's and possibly 8hr varience.
KT engage was my favourite, that shit came in so fast.
CSG, Venerate, FoH are all on the line racing,trying while during MageQuest the barrier of entry is too high for those guilds to even bother to try
Disagree w your premise, but I agree w your sentiment
:)
The solution has always been repops, which don't reward poopsocking. But for some reason the staff is determined to push pixels into the arms (feet) of the sockers.
Maner
12-08-2016, 08:03 PM
CSG, Venerate, FoH are all on the line racing,trying while during MageQuest the barrier of entry is too high for those guilds to even bother to try
Disagree w your premise, but I agree w your sentiment
:)
spending the time on the line or on a mage would be the same barrier of entry wouldnt it?
Ravager
12-08-2016, 08:11 PM
The solution has always been repops, which don't reward poopsocking. But for some reason the staff is determined to push pixels into the arms (feet) of the sockers.
It'd be so easy to code too. I don't know why this wasn't done 4 or 5 years ago. A couple hours of Dev time to save hundreds of hours of GM time seems like a no-brainer. I bet Haynar could write the script to do it on a napkin. It'd even be more classic than what is going on now.
Dreenk317
12-08-2016, 08:19 PM
Plain and simple, how has the fact that the vast majority of raid mobs are taken by one of three guilds not raised red flags back at the office that something isn't right?
Erati
12-08-2016, 08:24 PM
spending the time on the line or on a mage would be the same barrier of entry wouldnt it?
not really, only faction is required to sit on any line which is a common part of Velious xpac ( grinding faction for the cities )
MageQuesting requires min/max mage placement, creation of mage bot army ( inb4 QQ about 2 mage per wing bullshit ) and constant occupying/socking on those bots where a fizzle or not will determine a winner sometimes. Mages were inching closer and closer, it was getting really dumb and we all know how much Sirken hates when trackers are up the ass of these spawns.
I dont see how anyone could think MageQuest would allow for a lower barrier of entry for casual guilds than simply walking up to these zonelines w SoW on and faction.
Daldaen
12-08-2016, 08:28 PM
I am going to go ahead and say a solid portion of the mage guild bots that exist today, were leveled through primarily Bard AE or Chardok PL methods, which are no longer as viable with the non-classic 25-target limit as well.
So returning to mage questing would further disadvantage the guild who do not already have a few shareable magician toons leveled up.
Kodim
12-08-2016, 08:40 PM
I don't really understand how needing bind sight, sow, a screenshare if running on Monk, and a DA idol is a lower barrier of entry than sitting on a Mage and pressing a button.
I did plenty of ToV coths and it was the easiest thing in existence albeit soul sucking.
Erati
12-08-2016, 08:57 PM
Coth w 1 hour engage locks would be even worse as it would combine the two worst aspects of the what we have known from Velious raiding.
Continue to troll and use your bias, the only people who feel mages would be better and 'easier' than the current ruleset are from AM and to which I say 'no shit' it would be easier for your guild to pick up mage-ing again, the army is built and you know what to do with them. ( dont forget TL boxing every 5 min, casual guilds would love that aspect )
The point is, all these up and coming guilds would be at a huge disadvantage compared to now where all that is needed is a few basic things ( SOW, DA idol, tracker ).
This isnt about the success rate of FTE racers from guilds not named A/A, its about the opportunity for those guilds to be able to 'try'. It will always be super easy to have a recruit sit on a mage bot, tell them to stare here and press 1 button when big ass dragon pops. Sure I agree when you frame it that way, MageQuest is easier.
Its getting to that point that is majorly difficult and outright impossible for guilds just trying to break into the raid scene. I have been to both sides of this spectrum, I know a thing or two about the pros/cons of all these rulesets.
Happy trolling :)
Ella`Ella
12-08-2016, 10:36 PM
I'm going to post a lot of words here because it matters
Kushie
12-08-2016, 10:37 PM
Bet you guys wish you had Luclin
Bet you guys wish you had Luclin
Isn't that about the same as someone from the live servers poking at the TLP players?
Bet you wish you had House of Thule hurr hurr
maskedmelon
12-09-2016, 07:58 AM
Isn't that about the same as someone from the live servers poking at the TLP players?
Bet you wish you had House of Thule hurr hurr
lol ^^
Bet you guys wish you had Luclin
I'm a classic nazi and I wish we had luclin, actually I'd be pleased to donate or even help with the expansion, I prog in C, C++, VB and love researching, my occupation.
PoP was the end of EQ for me. Luclin I loved. I shite my pants first time in Nertherbian Lair and I loved the mobs up there. Didn't like the cats but eh overall it was imo a great expansion. I loved the bazaar, literally hate the tunnel but each to their own.
Llodd
12-09-2016, 08:43 AM
So many 'solutions'. Soooo the ultimate solution = use all the solutions !
Every 3 months <or insert arbitrary number here> the raid scene changes:
Phase 1 : Race for FTE (current rules)
Phase 2 : DPS battle, No FTE - you get xp you get the loot
Phase 3 : Fighting to mobs on spawn spot only (remember leapfroggin? classic as fuck)
Phase 4 : Full on no CSR PvP Train wars (gms get a break after the insane lawyering from 1,2&3)
Phase 5 : Rotations (gms get a another break after the insane lawyering from 1,2&3)
No need for the silly long variance we currently have either. Win win !
ps fuck mage fte, that shits dumber than the rest of the dumb shit.
So many 'solutions'. Soooo the ultimate solution = use all the solutions !
Every 3 months <or insert arbitrary number here> the raid scene changes:
Phase 1 : Race for FTE (current rules)
Phase 2 : DPS battle, No FTE - you get xp you get the loot
Phase 3 : Fighting to mobs on spawn spot only (remember leapfroggin? classic as fuck)
Phase 4 : Full on no CSR PvP Train wars (gms get a break after the insane lawyering from 1,2&3)
Phase 5 : Rotations (gms get a another break after the insane lawyering from 1,2&3)
No need for the silly long variance we currently have either. Win win !
ps fuck mage fte, that shits dumber than the rest of the dumb shit.
It could work, but would create uncertainty on those getting all the good content at the moment. So expect a resounding "no" from the neckbeards. Would log in more often for the pvp element for sure :)
nyclin
12-09-2016, 12:50 PM
Raid scene could be fixed with two steps that Sirken refuses to take:
- work with guild leaders to clarify and finalize rules, post them publicly and keep them up-to-date based on current precedent
- make raid petitions public in a forum that everyone can view
Sirken has been asked multiple times by multiple people on all sides of the raid scene to clarify certain rules, and he has refused again and again. His stated reason for not clarifying rules is that ambiguity reduces the opportunities for people to abuse the rules. Try not to laugh.
Probably 3/4 of the disputes I've seen have been over ambiguity in the rules. The rest were either legitimate rule violations, or disingenuous bullshit. Making raid petitions public reduces the disingenuous bullshit because it adds accountability. Having the rules clarified and posted publicly eliminates the rest of the petitions. End result: Raid scene gets better because people can't simply shout "CONCPDE" whenever they think something isn't going their way.
I eagerly accept my incoming forum ban for having the audacity to question the Will and Authority of Our God Emperor, Sirken.
quoting the best post in this thread
FatMice
12-09-2016, 01:42 PM
Raid scene could be fixed with two steps that Sirken refuses to take:
- work with guild leaders to clarify and finalize rules, post them publicly and keep them up-to-date based on current precedent
- make raid petitions public in a forum that everyone can view
Sirken has been asked multiple times by multiple people on all sides of the raid scene to clarify certain rules, and he has refused again and again. His stated reason for not clarifying rules is that ambiguity reduces the opportunities for people to abuse the rules. Try not to laugh.
Probably 3/4 of the disputes I've seen have been over ambiguity in the rules. The rest were either legitimate rule violations, or disingenuous bullshit. Making raid petitions public reduces the disingenuous bullshit because it adds accountability. Having the rules clarified and posted publicly eliminates the rest of the petitions. End result: Raid scene gets better because people can't simply shout "CONCPDE" whenever they think something isn't going their way.
I eagerly accept my incoming forum ban for having the audacity to question the Will and Authority of Our God Emperor, Sirken.
This. Yes.
Angushjalmur
12-09-2016, 01:48 PM
No more of this One Hour To Kill, 24 Hours to Engage Statue, Locked Out on mobs, Rotating Veeshan's Peak, bullshit.
You FTE a mob, you bring it in and you kill it... or die trying.
I'm sick of this pussy ass, limp-wristed cuck raiding environment.
Make Raiding Great Again.
Make sure you thay thankth to the right perthon or perthonth rethponthible for thith degenerathy
surron
12-09-2016, 02:34 PM
why not just make it classic, if 1 guild wants to lock down a raid mob and be the only 1 with the timer then fuck it thats classic eq
why isnt that how this works? SoE had no problem allowing it in classic eq, why does p99?
inb4 someone says "thats not fair"
Angushjalmur
12-09-2016, 02:36 PM
why not just make it classic, if 1 guild wants to lock down a raid mob and be the only 1 with the timer then fuck it thats classic eq
why isnt that how this works? SoE had no problem allowing it in classic eq, why does p99?
inb4 someone says "thats not fair"
BDA cried until they were handed raid mobs, and then they fled like cowardly dogs to retail servers
Llodd
12-09-2016, 03:19 PM
It could work, but would create uncertainty on those getting all the good content at the moment. So expect a resounding "no" from the neckbeards. Would log in more often for the pvp element for sure :)
Well yes. Neckbeards (A/A) dont like fun, they only like pixels :(
But really, It's more classic doing this than what we currently have (which is what this server was supposed to be all about). Alot of servers in classic times had each of these elements except what we currently have. The irony of that is mind blowing ;)
At this point I sometimes wonder who is actually running (ruining) the server !
Legday
12-09-2016, 03:43 PM
#BringBackMages
Fasttimes
12-09-2016, 04:14 PM
Bring back jav throws and camping at aary steps and trips and praying flurry doesn't kill you on log in
maskedmelon
12-09-2016, 04:17 PM
Just make ToV a no CSR zone ^^
Legday
12-09-2016, 04:33 PM
The north (ToV) remembers (Kharizzar's necro pet pulls).
Daldaen
12-09-2016, 04:36 PM
No CSR Kael and ToV would be hilarious.
Make that a thing.
Angushjalmur
12-09-2016, 11:14 PM
try red, we have it already
and 1 guild of like 12 people
Kegluas
12-10-2016, 03:07 AM
losers
#beattheserver
Prismaticshop
12-10-2016, 03:45 AM
losers
#beattheserver
Didn't you quit p99 and woke the sleeper because the opposing guild had their foot on your throat ?
I believe that indeed qualifies you as a loser and a quiter :D
Red_Messiah
12-11-2016, 02:02 AM
if not killing yourself, have a long hard think about your choices
Lammy
12-11-2016, 10:06 AM
working as intended
http://i.imgur.com/cYk84lE.jpg
captain
12-12-2016, 11:14 PM
MAKE RnF NSFW AGAIN!!! Porn posting to your hearts desire is what we really NEED!!!!
working as intended
http://i.imgur.com/cYk84lE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ax3q4sm.jpg
fiveeauxfour
12-16-2016, 01:13 PM
snap pulls in tov was the height of velious raiding
RedXIII
12-16-2016, 01:32 PM
losers
#beattheserver
Oh WoW!
Miss you Keg! \o/
skarlorn
12-16-2016, 03:30 PM
It seems like what the raid scene really needs is 2-3 totally new raid rulesets every year. This will give the illusion that things are fresh and the hardcore navy seal type EQ players will have to spend 20+ hrs honing their skills of exploitation so they can properly enjoy the p99 classic everquest environment.
So basically, if we have spent half the year racing for FTE's, now the other half of the year is pure DPS race. 4-6 months from now all raid guilds have /teams enabled. 6 months after that we go back to FTE race.
thefloydian
12-26-2016, 11:38 AM
A high percentage of people that play on a pve server when they have the option to play on a pvp server are afraid of pvp.
You could never make raid areas pvp enabled, if you did this on p99 blue, it would end up with the population red has.
Coming from many games that had pvp/pve servers, I know the ones who enjoy pvp are a very small minority, which is sad because pvp does add a vast element of variance to the game.
In pvp every encounter has a chance to have something occur that has never occured before, that's why pvp is fun. Every fight is unscripted.
That being said, the majority of gamers are bluebies and will never pvp. They like pve only.
I don't have a problem with pvp. I have a problem with MMO pvp. It is terrible. And EQ pvp is 17-year-old mmo pvp. If I want to pvp, I'll play a shooter.
NachtMystium
12-26-2016, 02:42 PM
Isn't it ironic that the whole reason everyone joined this "classic" server was to escape changes they hated about live, yet this server is becoming the non-classic experience people want to escape.
I guess a 16 year old, true to classic elf sim can only last so long without becoming a real cluster fuck in the end. Nostalgia goggles only see so far, without new content the carrot-on-a-stick eventually rots.
After your 5th level 60 you come to a game where high-end guilds farm and sell MQs, mob rotations and meta things like that instead of that good ol' nostalgic feeling of wonder and excitement that everyone was here for in the beginning.
NachtMystium
12-26-2016, 03:46 PM
5 level 60s lol
i got to 12 on blue and quit exp was so slow
id be worried about your social life and not the "classic" server
I don't even have 1 level 60. I'm talking about the people that do have that many 60s run out of things to do.
Zekayy
12-26-2016, 03:52 PM
Let's just build a wall in tov and kael and keep the casual players out
Zekayy
12-26-2016, 04:00 PM
But Bump to my friend Dannyl miss you pal
jcr4990
12-26-2016, 04:58 PM
This just in: P99 raiding sucks massive cock and will never be fixed because the people in charge do not want to fix it. All your suggestions are falling on deaf ears and all the minor rule changes that happen every so often are nothing but bandaids that never work long term.
http://i.imgur.com/cXoHH1p.jpg
Zekayy
12-26-2016, 05:07 PM
This just in: P99 raiding sucks massive cock and will never be fixed because the people in charge do not want to fix it. All your suggestions are falling on deaf ears and all the minor rule changes that happen every so often are nothing but bandaids that never work long term.
http://i.imgur.com/cXoHH1p.jpg
Member when bda was a guild on this server? I sure dont
jcr4990
12-26-2016, 11:36 PM
Member when bda was a guild on this server? I sure dont
Pretty sure BDA is a guild on Project 1999 Blue as of right now. If your memory is that bad that you can't remember the present moment I suggest seeing a doctor as soon as possible.
Swish
12-26-2016, 11:49 PM
I remember it as a leveling guild in its dying years where everyone jumped to a guild that could actually FTE and take down content.
At that point they were run off the server, no pixels, no loyalty etc.
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