kotton05
11-12-2016, 10:07 AM
My p99 law degree that i got from Unbrella University is wasting away. I want to use it. I've helped people rule lawyer into camps. Gotten a few suspensions + vacations and shockingly i've been suspended myself (THANKS JEREMY YA MORAN). Here are my initial thoughts.
Case 1 Trained TELK FTE(i've seen linked in a few threads thats from the raid discussion)
No. Telk can't be fte'd at PoM cubby w/o a prior FTE.
Yes. He must of been trained.
Yes. it was prolly someone bound around trips. That really limits the culprits. Because someone who was bound at cubby would get rekted by mobs buffed with SoW long before telk arrived.
No. You can't be HELD to an FTE that was trained on you, braknar made that clear to me one day, so i'm shocked he wasn't on to tell you that(not really). Thats guild suspension worthy.
Official petition should of been "Guild X is trying to force a trained Telk FTE that occured at PoM cubby on us."
Rest is speculation / tinfoil without any video
Case 2 Repop Running
This is a huge grey area... How can you prove so and so wasn't camped out under said mob? So basically cheating and hoping you dont get caught is the current method used.... When all other times you run from the designated line. In my opinion chances are they was past the line as I know folks who do this / done this in the past only during repops. No real way to monitor this, so a petition is null.
Case 3 On the Vulak incident earlier this week...
There was already a prior conflict with awakened crying about vulak fte. Based on prior fraps and logs, it usually takes them about 10 mins to kill koi during repop days. This time it almost took an hour because precious Vulak was up. Judging by the fact it took so long it screams something was up. Shortly following the train(their fucked up pull that killed most of ent) they then pulled with small timer left on Vulaks FTE....
Putting my tinfoil on now if someone did pull Vulak... somehow awakened would magically wipe on koi, thats something i would expect out of a guild who KS's ring 8 turn ins that isnt theirs or flops mobs on clerics knowingly(could go on i got plent of juicy fraps being typed up, do you guys think we dont just amass a bunch then send in the big ticket petition?) Soon it will all catch up. I've seen it many times.
Now Sirken throws around the spirit of the rules... this isn't that spirit. It screams direct manipulation of the spirit. So I would press for an extended suspension. With individual vacations being handed out too... With a revision on the actual rules or all rules removed from ToV (not player made, GM made)
This one is harder and has multiple views. Would require my view from when i think erati first set off their YT on Koi till mobs enter 4way going to ent (not saying it was you bro as im almost certain you're bound at LTK so your mobs be going north to west) and views of ent.
CSG or anyone else for that matter if you got fraps you think warrant a deeper look pm me=-)
Case 1 Trained TELK FTE(i've seen linked in a few threads thats from the raid discussion)
No. Telk can't be fte'd at PoM cubby w/o a prior FTE.
Yes. He must of been trained.
Yes. it was prolly someone bound around trips. That really limits the culprits. Because someone who was bound at cubby would get rekted by mobs buffed with SoW long before telk arrived.
No. You can't be HELD to an FTE that was trained on you, braknar made that clear to me one day, so i'm shocked he wasn't on to tell you that(not really). Thats guild suspension worthy.
Official petition should of been "Guild X is trying to force a trained Telk FTE that occured at PoM cubby on us."
Rest is speculation / tinfoil without any video
Case 2 Repop Running
This is a huge grey area... How can you prove so and so wasn't camped out under said mob? So basically cheating and hoping you dont get caught is the current method used.... When all other times you run from the designated line. In my opinion chances are they was past the line as I know folks who do this / done this in the past only during repops. No real way to monitor this, so a petition is null.
Case 3 On the Vulak incident earlier this week...
There was already a prior conflict with awakened crying about vulak fte. Based on prior fraps and logs, it usually takes them about 10 mins to kill koi during repop days. This time it almost took an hour because precious Vulak was up. Judging by the fact it took so long it screams something was up. Shortly following the train(their fucked up pull that killed most of ent) they then pulled with small timer left on Vulaks FTE....
Putting my tinfoil on now if someone did pull Vulak... somehow awakened would magically wipe on koi, thats something i would expect out of a guild who KS's ring 8 turn ins that isnt theirs or flops mobs on clerics knowingly(could go on i got plent of juicy fraps being typed up, do you guys think we dont just amass a bunch then send in the big ticket petition?) Soon it will all catch up. I've seen it many times.
Now Sirken throws around the spirit of the rules... this isn't that spirit. It screams direct manipulation of the spirit. So I would press for an extended suspension. With individual vacations being handed out too... With a revision on the actual rules or all rules removed from ToV (not player made, GM made)
This one is harder and has multiple views. Would require my view from when i think erati first set off their YT on Koi till mobs enter 4way going to ent (not saying it was you bro as im almost certain you're bound at LTK so your mobs be going north to west) and views of ent.
CSG or anyone else for that matter if you got fraps you think warrant a deeper look pm me=-)