Rotation RNF Thread

[Loke]

but but but a fucking spaceship!

Listen, I like spaceships as much as the next guy, but are you really going to trust gnomish engineering in a vaccum environment? How many broken or runaway clockworks have you encountered? How often are boats broken? I mean, we can't even handle reliable ocean transport, and you want to ferry people through space?

[khanable]

Oh, no. I recall the timer was either 15 or 20 minutes and you had to get a shard of the nexus from either the people or from a groundspawn in order to use the teleporters. The NPCs hanging out at the spires were only there to tell you how to use it and to announce when a port was about to happen.

Oh. Didn't know!

Listen, I like spaceships as much as the next guy, but are you really going to trust gnomish engineering in a vaccum environment? How many broken or runaway clockworks have you encountered? How often are boats broken? I mean, we can't even handle reliable ocean transport, and you want to ferry people through space?

Have the erudites engineer it and the gnomes build it

[kotton05]

FWIW a new rotation was worked out, thread was fun while it lasted though.

can't we just keep it going for old times sake. no reason we can't derail..

[kotton05]

Nexus wasn't nearly as bad as PoK books, and actually a pretty solid compromise imo. I think the pads worked on a 15 minute timer, so getting a port from a druid/wiz was still way more convenient.

Also, Bazaar was dope simply because there was an arena there. Had a ton of fun in Luclin/PoP doing post raid night "king of the arena" events with other guilds in the bazaar arena. I'm admittedly not much of a trader so I don't really see the appeal of EC tunnel, but bazaar arena would be a welcome addition imo.

you sir are 100% correct, idk why the hate for the bazaar, whats better than AFK'ing and selling your wares?

[maskedmelon]

you sir are 100% correct, idk why the hate for the bazaar, whats better than AFK'ing and selling your wares?

I'd be ok with bazaar if broker was disabled. No searching!

[Daldaen]

Wasn't the nexus the port in/out zoning using the translocator people? I'm not knowledgeable of luclin but the point would be to remove those silly people in favor of a rocket ship


Duh

The nexus was a zone that was connected by the major wizard spire on each continent.

Dreadlands (Kunark), Toxxulia (Odus), North Karana (Antonica), Greater Faydark (Faydwer), Great Divide (Velious).

Players could hail an NPC Wizard and get a stone at each of these spires. If they stayed within the spires, every 15 minutes the wizard would AE Teleport the players holding said stone up to the Nexus.

When in the Nexus, again every 15 minutes the wizard NPCs in different corners of the zone would port you down to one of the specific spires listed above.

A player wishing to travel from say... Toxxulia to Greater Faydark would have an average of a 7.5 minute wait time to get ported to the Nexus and a further 15 minute wait time to get ported to GFay.

It just another boat system, that involves more sitting around and wizard NPCs. People just get all berged out like retards because it goes to wizard spires and OMG obsoleting porters. Idiots. No one wants to wait 20-30 minutes for a port, that's what the Nexus basically requires for you to travel between 5 select zones.

[kotton05]

I'd be ok with bazaar if broker was disabled. No searching!

that would be cool, just have to vendor dive every item and still emote your wares.

[skarlorn]

Seriously shit that mods haven't moved this over to rnf yet

[Lammy]

Seriously shit that mods haven't moved this over to rnf yet

sir this thread is for srs discussion. pls dont tard it up

[Suwu]

Can we now all agree Luclin is in the best interest of everyone involved?

I want a moon!

[kagrobb]

Can we now all agree Luclin is in the best interest of everyone involved?

Yes

[Ella`Ella]

Can we please go back to bashing Detoxx? I, too, find him insufferable.

[Daldaen]

Or we can talk about how awesome Luclin is.

Can you imagine, Tailoring and Blacksmithing having value for trading?

People playing their mains for AAs rather than rolling a 67th alt?

Raids that take an actual strategy beyond corner, slow, CH chain?

Raid class balance coming into line as Rangers and wizards become top tier DPS, and Knights tank effectively on even raid mobs depending on the area.

Never stop dreaming friends.

[skarlorn]

I support luclin. velious is a shitty xpac, way less FUN than luclin.

PALUDAL CAVERNS OMG lol so fun ;) ^^

[kotton05]

my greatest detoxx impersonation from a tunare raid..

"SOMEONE DISPELL ME RAWRRRRRRRRRRR"

inc 50+ cancel magics. i laughed.

[Joyelle]

lol that's why you're supposed to ask in tells!

[maskedmelon]

I never actually did much of anything in luclin, I just hate SoE's approach to anthropomorphy. Should have gone the opposite direction with animorphized humans rather than anthropropmorphised animals, ya know? Also don't like seeing old world further trivialized.

#yuckvashir

[Detoxx]

Can we please go back to bashing Detoxx? I, too, find him insufferable.

Low blow Greg, you know you love my Sopranos references everyday.

[Detoxx]

lol that's why you're supposed to ask in tells!

Ain't nobody got time for that. I'm getting knocked back while rooted! Needs to be fast!

[Joyelle]

Ain't nobody got time for that. I'm getting knocked back while rooted! Needs to be fast!

hotkeys, bro... hotkeys.

[Ella`Ella]

Low blow Greg, you know you love my Sopranos references everyday.

You're only as good as your last envelope.

[AzzarTheGod]

I support luclin. velious is a shitty xpac, way less FUN than luclin.

PALUDAL CAVERNS OMG lol so fun ;) ^^

pras my type of guy right here.

A luclin man!

[Daldaen]

There are better ways to handle the Knockback than dispelling your tank.

My personal favorite TheoryQuest strategy (which has yet been used but after you read it you'll want to try) is Locket binding your MT under Tunare, grouping him with a wizard and TL boxing him at the beginning of the fight. Taking that box each time you're rooted out of range and requesting a new one (lol wizards don't do anything in this fight anyways).

Imagine, insta porting right under her feet each time you're rooted out of range. Never having buffs dispelled because of Dispell mechanics. Being able to insta loot your corpse when you die.

Would be fun to watch!

[maskedmelon]

There are better ways to handle the Knockback than dispelling your tank.

My personal favorite TheoryQuest strategy (which has yet been used but after you read it you'll want to try) is Locket binding your MT under Tunare, grouping him with a wizard and TL boxing him at the beginning of the fight. Taking that box each time you're rooted out of range and requesting a new one (lol wizards don't do anything in this fight anyways).

Imagine, insta porting right under her feet each time you're rooted out of range. Never having buffs dispelled because of Dispell mechanics. Being able to insta loot your corpse when you die.

Would be fun to watch!

Perpetual upskirt, good strat ^^

[bktroost]

my greatest detoxx impersonation from a tunare raid..

"SOMEONE DISPELL ME RAWRRRRRRRRRRR"

inc 50+ cancel magics. i laughed.

detoxx, that's hilarious.

[AzzarTheGod]

Or we can talk about how awesome Luclin is.

Can you imagine, Tailoring and Blacksmithing having value for trading? The dunks

People playing their mains for AAs rather than rolling a 67th alt? The dunks.

Raids that take an actual strategy beyond corner, slow, CH chain? The dunks.

Raid class balance coming into line as Rangers and wizards become top tier DPS, and Knights tank effectively on even raid mobs depending on the area. The dunks

Never stop dreaming friends.

This post was a MAC-11 MONSTA.

http://i.imgur.com/RlIpeI3.jpg

*Actual illustration of Daldaen's post*


This post doesn't date losers with Apple watches.


http://i.imgur.com/dOaPh73.jpg

*Actual picture of average current P99 players hand.*



This post has a Rolley on its wrist.


http://i.imgur.com/H9E76qv.jpg


*Actual picture of Daldaen's hand.*

[Fifield]

Sounds fun untill you die in the world and are stuck in a death loop in growth lol

[Fifield]

what are those crap watches? everyone knows wood watches are the real deal now


http://i.imgur.com/392eD0d.jpg

[fan D]

how about you shave your hand u fukn hobbit

[Fifield]

canadas cold motha fucka!

[AzzarTheGod]

canadas cold motha fucka!

I imagine you have to do a lot of vacuuming assuming the chest and back are the same

[maskedmelon]

Is the watch cedar?

[AzzarTheGod]

idk cool concept though. It looks pretty sick I will admit. I was unaware of their existence prior to this post.

[Fifield]

I imagine you have to do a lot of vacuuming assuming the chest and back are the same

Ever go to a hot tub and they tell you to leave the fur coat at home?

[Erati]

still waiting on my underwear Fifie

[Fifield]

not even gonna try to explain that here....

the wife found this site and bought me it for my bday this year. super expensive for a watch but they are slick

https://www.woodwatches.com/

[FatMice]

Lol Super Expensive. Might as well buy a Blue Fossil!

[Fifield]

well holy shit its zoole , hey man!

I guess expensive is relative, some people probably have 1000 dollar watches.

[Detoxx]

There are better ways to handle the Knockback than dispelling your tank.

My personal favorite TheoryQuest strategy (which has yet been used but after you read it you'll want to try) is Locket binding your MT under Tunare, grouping him with a wizard and TL boxing him at the beginning of the fight. Taking that box each time you're rooted out of range and requesting a new one (lol wizards don't do anything in this fight anyways).

Imagine, insta porting right under her feet each time you're rooted out of range. Never having buffs dispelled because of Dispell mechanics. Being able to insta loot your corpse when you die.

Would be fun to watch!

Knock back isn't an issue, it's knock back while rooted. We handle it just fine but that's not a terrible idea. Awfully expensive though because you obv can't stay bound there for 2 weeks else you'll get smoked every time you die.

[AzzarTheGod]

not even gonna try to explain that here....

the wife found this site and bought me it for my bday this year. super expensive for a watch but they are slick

https://www.woodwatches.com/

pretty neat. wonder if these are too "expensive" to be considered cool in the hipster circles.

this looks like some hipster shit, but since its not a free swiss army watch they got from a antiques store, I don't know if it gets the hipster cosign or not.

any hipsters here to give an opinion?

[Freakish]

There's some $200 wood watches, that's not bad for a real watch.

[AzzarTheGod]

https://www.woodwatches.com/series/dover/ebony-and-rosewood

My fav that I saw.

http://i.imgur.com/9t3nHDk.png

Probably great for peacocking at the lounge or bar. Pretty eye catching to see a watch that isn't metal, and with these colors.

[FatMice]

I miss interactions with Fifield. Simply put; if you never grouped/raided with Fifi then you haven't played on P99.

[AzzarTheGod]

http://i.imgur.com/nwSLz1M.png

Also nice. More demure, really styling.

https://www.woodwatches.com/series/sawyer/koa-and-bronze

[FatMice]

Also for the record I hate watches. I don't wear any jewelry; too binding, however, I love that wedding ring.

[Freakish]

Is Fifield a shill for big watch?

[Fifield]

I like the whole seeing the gears behind. I see alot of watches doing that now.

Wood watches look sweet, and are super eye catchy, but kinda sucks how easy they scratch. it wouldnt take much to make your new watch look old and shitty.

Gotta take care of them, like a cell phone without a screen protector

[Fifield]

Zoole remember our Broodmother camp adventure with Qerki/Fifeheals?

about 15 mintues in we had 3 corpses and were both ready to /q

[FatMice]

It was the best of times.

[FatMice]

I also remember trying to two-man Gkrean as a warrior and a monk.

[AzzarTheGod]

I like the whole seeing the gears behind. I see alot of watches doing that now.

Wood watches look sweet, and are super eye catchy, but kinda sucks how easy they scratch. it wouldnt take much to make your new watch look old and shitty.

Gotta take care of them, like a cell phone without a screen protector

Hey metal isn't any better. I have a legit Rolex and the Rolex clasp underneath the wrist literally broke the Rolex emblem pin off just from banging and clipping it maybe 2-3 times very gently and I need to get it professionally welded back on.

I guess you have to develop a "watch swagger" when wearing one of these and change how you move. Wood or metal, same problems.

I had a bracelet too and I lost count of how many times that shit broke. I can see why jewelry is for women, the way a guy moves and socializes you can't wear any of this stuff without sitting like a mummy arms off the table and in your lap.

[FatMice]

Although the best duo I ever had was with Pezy. He raced Awakened to a Lucan pop and pulled him as soon as he had eyes on him. He kited it in a circle for 5min as I got a port and ran from WC. We proceeded to kill Lucan and a few of those evil guards using a few wort pot clicks, 2 CH Clicks, slowstone, etc just so Awakened couldn't get the kill. They sat there expecting us to die. Loved it.

[FatMice]

Now this is a watch. (http://www.exquisitetimepieces.com/pc/vintage/schaumburg-unikatorium/Schaumburg+Watch+Vintage?gclid=CPTjhavPxM8CFYcmhgo dliQB2A)

http://i.imgur.com/0XpRC2v.jpg

[Fifield]

god dammit Azzar all this watch talk makes me want another one

[Fifield]

Now this is a watch. (http://www.exquisitetimepieces.com/pc/vintage/schaumburg-unikatorium/Schaumburg+Watch+Vintage?gclid=CPTjhavPxM8CFYcmhgo dliQB2A)



thats just rediculous

[Fifield]

Anyways its home time,

You all need to get along better. I know this won't happen because of the hatred between guilds but one day maybe.

[Nommis]

New rotation

http://i.imgur.com/8zF3cMi.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

Now this is a watch. (http://www.exquisitetimepieces.com/pc/vintage/schaumburg-unikatorium/Schaumburg+Watch+Vintage?gclid=CPTjhavPxM8CFYcmhgo dliQB2A)

http://i.imgur.com/0XpRC2v.jpg

Reminds me a lot of a Vacheron. Therefore I like it. Although I'd probably be inclined to get the Vacheron!

[Joyelle]

Fifield fix your windshield!

[Lammy]

Rockin' my Hexa #70/100 in Megans Bay!

http://i.imgur.com/9G5lCQu.png

[Detoxx]

I miss interactions with Fifield. Simply put; if you never grouped/raided with Fifi then you haven't played on P99.

Qft

#5ftesopeningnight
#nakedaaryfte

[icedwards]

Fifield fix your windshield!

Fifield lives in the cold, desolate asshole of Canada known as Saskatchewan. The poor inhabitants there are exposed to 9 months of winter where it gets so unbearably cold that road salt won't melt the ice. Instead, they're forced to use gravel year round and everyone's windshield is smashed to shit.

[kotton05]

New rotation

http://i.imgur.com/8zF3cMi.gif

its time for pumpkin spice latte for all.

[Nommis]

Rockin' my Hexa #70/100 in Megans Bay!

http://i.imgur.com/9G5lCQu.png

Enjoy with a Naty Ice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSxRI0EIwtk

[Argh]

Taken's official stance has always been that once a rule is broken all rules cease to exist.

[bktroost]

I'm 5 years we've never had a better negotition session. Big props to detoxx's patience, Breaken's creativity and Getsome's resilence and focus. We're not best friends but we make things work.

[AzzarTheGod]

Wow no special thanks to the derail team. Bunch of ingrates on here no wonder why staff screws you on calls.

[Zekayy]

Can we now all agree Luclin is in the best interest of everyone involved?

No

[Zekayy]

you sir are 100% correct, idk why the hate for the bazaar, whats better than AFK'ing and selling your wares?

We can do that now /afk /auction WTS

problem solved

[skarlorn]

I'm 5 years we've never had a better negotition session. Big props to detoxx's patience, Breaken's creativity and Getsome's resilence and focus. We're not best friends but we make things work.

so what you're sayin is that Chest was the problem?

[AzzarTheGod]

so what you're sayin is that Chest was the problem?

I'm detecting shots in the chest.





Precinct 16 GO. SHOTS FIRED

[Legday]

Qerki/Fifeheals

Both now ST keyed AM guild toons. Your memory lives on sweet prince.

[arsenalpow]

I mean maybe y'all shouldn't be jerking each other off over rotating only VP and ring wars?

[Swish]

I mean maybe y'all shouldn't be jerking each other off over rotating only VP and ring wars?

Its called community spirit, what would you know about that? What did BDA do for the community other than corpse rescues in the Planes for a guild bank payday?

Omni, Paradox and a bunch of others on the other hand work with the community rather than trying to carve out a guaranteed slice of content due to your bad ability/poor organisation. The writing really was on the wall for you when the rotations disappeared in Velious.

Please continue to check more than 1 thread on the forums and see how much better things are without BDA around :o

[Cecily]

Please continue to check more than 1 thread on the forums and see how much better things are without BDA around :o

http://i.imgur.com/8zF3cMi.gif

[maskedmelon]

http://i.imgur.com/8zF3cMi.gif

What is this gif from? They look like they having so much fun... Is that really Breaken, Getsome, Detoxx and Nemce?

[FatMice]

Zoolander Duh!

[khanable]

right before the gas fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SSbFjK_gnY

take what you will from that

[Detoxx]

I mean maybe y'all shouldn't be jerking each other off over rotating only VP and ring wars?

And Tunare!

[bktroost]

right before the gas fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SSbFjK_gnY

take what you will from that

Haha, why did it take so long for someone to mention that? Hilarity.

[Nommis]

right before the gas fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SSbFjK_gnY

take what you will from that

Cucumbers wins the contextual prize!

[skarlorn]

http://i.imgur.com/8zF3cMi.gif

[FatMice]

Wait so there is a rotation again?

[Nitsude]

Wait so there is a rotation again?

Hi

[Baler]

I hope these fuck tards can get their shit together and work together.
It's honestly outrageous that people cant work together to form a proper rotation.
#pixels

Just want to say,. on RED They're giving these same items to players for free.

[FatMice]

Hi

I miss you my lil'nits!

[AzzarTheGod]

right before the gas fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SSbFjK_gnY

take what you will from that

/thread

***OUTRO***

***Slow Curtain close***

[FatMice]

That youtube video tells me nothing was accomplished. No rotations for anyone!

[kotton05]

all negotiations should require gifs and ms paint imo.

[bktroost]

I was kinda hoping we'd see some Arghwork... sad.

[Kevynne]

http://www.rampageguild.com/page/4/
this was quality read. A+

[Kevynne]

lol^

hi there tassle big chells misses u <3

[Kevynne]

i miss the No-CSR vp

i remember FE and TMO nonstop training each other's clerics/recently rezzed.
TBH was pretty funny. I blame paymelinda for state of server health

[Detoxx]

i remember FE and TMO nonstop training each other's clerics/recently rezzed.
TBH was pretty funny. I blame paymelinda for state of server health

8 hour Silverwing raids. Leaving Hoshkar up just to train. Fighting in the ceiling. Double Dragon wake up theme song. Aisusgate. FE ruined it all! I blame Tassle. And Merkk. I know you were the one that brought Froovy/Internode gate to light!

Necrious warned Zeelot that you guys were CoTHing to PD. He was too cocky though.

Just remember, in VP, you didn't track dragons. You tracked Necrious!

[fan D]

ps:

if you posted in this server

(plz kill urself)

[kotton05]

8 hour Silverwing raids. Leaving Hoshkar up just to train. Fighting in the ceiling. Double Dragon wake up theme song. Aisusgate. FE ruined it all! I blame Tassle. And Merkk. I know you were the one that brought Froovy/Internode gate to light!

Necrious warned Zeelot that you guys were CoTHing to PD. He was too cocky though.

Just remember, in VP, you didn't track dragons. You tracked Necrious!

whats even crazier is that Necrious out lasted many many folks all hyped up on adderall. I wasn't in to that but was almost certain Necrious must be an NPC at that point. I actually watched that fraps you are talking about recently Detoxx

[Sirken]

all negotiations should require gifs and ms paint imo.

and rap battles ;)

[t3kn34k]

and rap battles ;)

Someday I'll be Famous across norrath and get that million DKP record deal from <Aftermath> records. Go triple platinum on FTE

round 4 coming out sometime soon.. who gets roasted this time? ;)

[kotton05]

its the tracking..the petitioning...
the lawyer questing art....
its the trollin on the forums...
the race for zlandi's heart...
its the fast run we use to abuse the first engage...
its the hours of the trackin and trakanon enraged....
its the people in the tunnel admiring my platinum...
its the gms in my guild chat askin what the fuck just happened....!!!!!

[Tasslehofp99]

8 hour Silverwing raids. Leaving Hoshkar up just to train. Fighting in the ceiling. Double Dragon wake up theme song. Aisusgate. FE ruined it all! I blame Tassle. And Merkk. I know you were the one that brought Froovy/Internode gate to light!

Necrious warned Zeelot that you guys were CoTHing to PD. He was too cocky though.

Just remember, in VP, you didn't track dragons. You tracked Necrious!

ohhh, I get a namedrop of my own. :D

[Bman703]

Necrious was a god and still is

[AzzarTheGod]

and rap battles ;)

Well in that case, whichever guild gets the Spice Boys signed first....


Staff can just retire at that point, because there won't be anyone to contest.

[Joyelle]

its the tracking..the petitioning...
the lawyer questing art....
its the trollin on the forums...
the race for zlandi's heart...
its the fast run we use to abuse the first engage...
its the hours of the trackin and trakanon enraged....
its the people in the tunnel admiring my platinum...
its the gms in my guild chat askin what the fuck just happened....!!!!!

That's actually pretty good! It has a nice flow if it's performed as well as I heard it in my head :p

[Lojik]

its the tracking..the petitioning...
the lawyer questing art....
its the trollin on the forums...
the race for zlandi's heart...
its the fast run we use to abuse the first engage...
its the hours of the trackin and trakanon enraged....
its the people in the tunnel admiring my platinum...
its the gms in my guild chat askin what the fuck just happened....!!!!!

I want mobs with short windows and looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
loot tables

[getsome]

http://i.imgur.com/8zF3cMi.gif

So the Gas Station just blew up. Gratz to awakened for breaking rotation so soon.

I applaud your leaderships duplicity.

[Kagey]

Grats Briscoe on the sweet Robe.
also got a shroud an crown.

[MilanderTruewield]

So, attempting to keep the peace and make things pretty fair means having a gaping vagina?

Guess that makes you a tool, jda!

[skarlorn]

most of the people in this thread deserve to have their characters deleted for direct violation of p99 naming policy.

[Nommis]

So the Gas Station just blew up...

Forgot to add the ending to the first one.

http://i.imgur.com/1F1lOi9.gif

[Freakish]

What did rustle do now?

[kotton05]

/petition Sirken can we bring back non cs-r vp plz

[Pokesan]

terribly clever to do the exact thing you melted down about last week.

bravo awakened

[Detoxx]

Grats Briscoe on the sweet Robe.
also got a shroud an crown.

Grats on breaking the rotation and showing how greedy you really are. And your lack of caring about this server. Again.

[Lanuven]

Grats on breaking the rotation and showing how greedy you really are. And your lack of caring about this server. Again.

You mean by co-raiding the ring war. O ya, that wasn't us.

[MilanderTruewield]

Ok, so, please tell how they broke the rotation this time? They didn't. Awakened did.

Take that, anon_Awakened_poster!

[Detoxx]

Anyone that can quickly look up the definition of free for all? Nm, I'll do it for you...


free-for-all
noun
a disorganized or unrestricted situation or event in which everyone may take part, especially a fight, discussion, or trading market

What was the Ring War agreement again?

The agreement is basically:
When Badain spawns on your turn, you have up to 24-hours to start your war. After that it is up for anyone to turn in. If you miss your turn that still counts as your turn in the rotation.
Guilds will provide the rough spawn time to the next guild in the rotation, so that they have a rough idea of when he will spawn so they can plan accordingly.

What time did Sentry Badain spawn, one might ask? Well it was at 250am EST Saturday Morning.

Let's do some math real quick...

250am est on 10/8 + 24 hours = 250am EST on 10/9. Ring War was started at 330pm EST on 10/9.

Spin harder.

[Lanuven]

Ok, so, please tell how they broke the rotation this time? They didn't. Awakened did.

Take that, anon_Awakened_poster!

They know what they agreed to as part of the rotation. They are trying to deflect. VP was up 24hours anyway, was FFA.

[Detoxx]

They know what they agreed to as part of the rotation. They are trying to deflect. VP was up 24hours anyway, was FFA.

VP had no 24 hour agreement. Also, I checked VP at 4am this morning. It was not up.

I reiterate: spin harder.

[icedwards]

Both Badain and VP were up for 24 hours, how were any rotations broken?

[Lanuven]

Neither were up for 24 hours.

Awakened leadership continuing to show their merits to the rest of the server. Honestly, I'm downright impressed. Y'all might be more widely hated than Kunark era TMO. Thats fucking impressive.

Hate us cause they ain't us.

[Lanuven]

Act like you've been there before.

Oh wait, you haven't.

Please, continue your old Taken ways of "I do what I want, fuck everybody" mentality, I'm sure it's going to work out for you.

Stop acting like your better than anyone. This "server good guys" bullshit will only last so long. I heard Rustle almost had more people at your ring war than yall did. Keep it up, yall might just end up being the same guild soon enough.

[Detoxx]

Both Badain and VP were up for 24 hours, how were any rotations broken?

Again, VP was not up anywhere near 24 hours AND on top of that there is no 24 hour agreement on VP, it was only the ring war.

Spin Cycle in full swing now.

[MilanderTruewield]

Badain was up for over 24 hours. AM attempted to get the people together DURING their 24 hours. They were unable to do so for whatever reason. Thusly, it became a FFA war after the 24 hours passed. Then Rustle and AM cooperated to complete it. No rules were broken in this instance.

[Lanuven]

Do you ever have anything different to say? FTE's arent shit when you cant kill mobs on your own. Yall should have shared that Eashen with Aftermath in the first place.

[Cecily]

So are you guys still taking DKP hits for getting into this type of conversation, or are Senior Members and officers exempt from that?

[Lanuven]

So are you guys still taking DKP hits for getting into this type of conversation, or are Senior Members and officers exempt from that?

Another broken record poster.

In before getting trained in Chardok for exping in the middle of the zone.

[Lanuven]

Too bad we don't have more warm bodies like you laying around for our FTEs, right?

Get outta here clown, it's just going to get worse

Too bad is true. I mean a solid tank or another cleric might have kept yall from wiping..damn those contributing members. I see enchanters soloing Eashen all the time. If only you could have been there to save the raid am I right?

[Cecily]

Another broken record poster.

In before getting trained in Chardok for exping in the middle of the zone.

Well if one of your terrible posters, like yourself, would answer me, I could stop repeating myself.

[Kagey]

Well if one of your terrible posters, like yourself, would answer me, I could stop repeating myself.

this isnt the rnf forums obv.

[Cecily]

this isnt the rnf forums obv.

Yeah and I was in your guild long enough to know that it doesn't matter what forum it's on. It's the content of the post.
All I've seen from most Awakened in this thread is unmitigated shit.

[Lanuven]

Well if one of your terrible posters, like yourself, would answer me, I could stop repeating myself.

Yes we all took 5k dkp hits for posting in Server Chat. Are you happy now? You are so immersed in what we do as a guild. You had your shot, sorry scrub.

[Pokesan]

some real embarassing posters in this thread

it's like reading the awakened roster

[Jameus]

Still waiting on the day that actual contributing members of Awakened come to the forums and not the nobodys we currently get.

Lanuven has a 63% RA currently, and has sustained aprox that same level for the entire duration of Awakened.

Not only is he around for 63% of the time, he is always giving 100%! Thanks for being such an awesome, contributing member Lanuven!

[Pokesan]

Lanuven has a 63% RA currently, and has sustained aprox that same level for the entire duration of Awakened.

Not only is he around for 63% of the time, he is always giving 100%! Thanks for being such an awesome, contributing member Lanuven!

how many FTEs

[cashrip]

I joined this server looking for the classic eq experience and it got it, forums and everything, it's just like prexus lol

[Lojik]

I feel a really bad "rap" incoming...

Not really a rap, but I'll oblige!

I want a guild that will farm me blue diamonds
I want a guild not led by Chest
I want a guild that makes bad gifs but
docks DKP for RNF

I want a guild with the right bind locations
they're neckbeards, addicted, and ready to track
they're overt with their foolery
they're not willing to share
they're ramping up hostilities
so make sure to FRAPS

I want a guild with some perverts and some deaaaaaaaaaattthhhhhh packets

I want a guild that gets on early
I want a guild that stays on late
I want a guild with some internet temerity
who plays this game as an emotional escape

with virgin males that cry for justice
and the choice to play a useless class
they're neckbeards, addicted, and ready to track
they love training Divinity, and they're racist towards blacks

I want a guild full of some jerks and some deaaaaaaaaaattthhhhhh packets

I want a guild with some raid violations
I want guildmates with no real friends
In City of Mist, they will train me accidentally
Then they'll just try to blame it on Svenn

Kill Phara Dar with no FTE contest
Kill Phara Dar when there's no one else there
They're changing their name to keep future loots
They poopsock KT for white dragonscale boots

I want a guild with text alerts and some whirrrlllling agate

[Flux]

It's a shame that the bigmouths in this thread ultimately become the image of their respective guilds.

There are many top quality raiders in Rustle and Awakened, but I just can't see them through Pokesan, Gimp, Cecily and Lanuven's wall of shit.
You all make Detoxx look like the moderate alternative for raiding incredibly old content.


edit to add Pokesan, whoever he is.

[Pokesan]

the content is old guys. did you know the content is old? Flux is saying the content is old.

wow. incredible.

genius

[AzzarTheGod]

some real embarassing posters in this thread

it's like reading the awakened roster

lol at this point I would be legitimately afraid to post if I were Awakened. Its just not possible anymore, too many good people in the thread making good posts and having good discussion and positive feels.

Detoxx got my wrist on froze. Hail Mary.

[Kagey]

This whole server is full of people who are scared of competition. #freeVP

Both AM and Rustle know they are not to team up on rotation mobs, but they do and point fingers at others. Each time they break rotation and are the firsts to come to boards and say "ohh awakened did it!" Stop breaking the rotation rules before Sirken makes it a server rule and your both fucked. Cause if you dont have enough people for a ring war, and now face suspension for tag teaming up on shit since it is going to become a legit server rule, the future is going to become very bleak for AM people, and even rustle if they follow the same course.

[Lanuven]

Thank you for defining "warm body" better than I ever could, Jameus. You're such a pal.

I love how you claim that FTE's are king and its all that matters. I love it even more when your guild wipes cause not enough "warm bodies" are there to secure your "O so glorious FTE". You realize you cant do a damn thing on your own I hope? It takes a guild.

[Lammy]

I'm really glad Lanuven decided to participate in this thread

[Daldaen]

Badain was up for over 24 hours. AM attempted to get the people together DURING their 24 hours. They were unable to do so for whatever reason. Thusly, it became a FFA war after the 24 hours passed. Then Rustle and AM cooperated to complete it. No rules were broken in this instance.
This defeats the spirit of the agreement.

The purpose behind not teaming up during a war is for guilds who cannot muster a force to kill their war within 24 hours to either get a guild they want to share a slot with or bow out of the rotation.

Maybe that legal technicality of waiting until it's a few minutes past 24 hours, making it FFA absolves you from the need to adhere to the teams agreed upon in the rotation works in the LawyerQuest courts of Sirken and Judge Judy, but when you're dealing with player formed agreements they are built upon a certain amount of trust one and other will honor the spirit of the agreement.

In this case, they did not honor that agreement by having two different entities who occupy different rotation slots team up for one of their wars. This was explicitly forbidden from my understanding otherwise Europa, Omni and Azure Guard could each individually claim a slot, and team up. Or in the case as you describe, each claim a slot, wait 24 hours and then turn in 1 minute past the hour, teaming up and "breaking no rules".

"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should" comes to mind.

Should Awakened have seen this and then killed the miracle pop in VP, eh probably not. Should Aftermath have done the war on their own or agreed to share a slot with Rustle, yes they should've.

But I'm just a guy, on the outside looking in. Like everyone else in this thread, I probably don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

I'll leave you with my solution to this:

#JoinPhinigel
#InstancedRaidingForNoQQ
#17YearOldGamePixels

[Erati]

Irony is when you have ten thousand spoons but all you need is a joint.

I think that sums things up pretty well.

[Daldaen]

Yep and last time it went FFA after 24-hours and Awakened turned in Detoxx immediately posted in the raid discussion thread claiming the rotation was over... Even though as you stated, "that's the rule y'all wrote".

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2295502&postcount=3

So apparently when it's in the rules, and the rules were followed in this case where 24 hours passed and FFA Badain still is up, and it's black and white as you say, they still claimed the rotation is over? Seems to just have been following the rules as they were written?

[Daldaen]

But really.

#InstancedRaiding2017
#JustJoinPhinigel

[Mendo]

But really.

#InstancedRaiding2017
#JustJoinPhinigel

Are you leaving the server?

[Daldaen]

I'm gone from the server. I just exist on the forums to continue pursuing classic EQ in the bug forums, push for real raid content in the form of Luclin and PoP, and apparently to comment on how dumb this servers raid scene is.

[xKoopa]

I'm gone from the server. I just exist on the forums to continue pursuing classic EQ in the bug forums, push for real raid content in the form of Luclin and PoP, and apparently to comment on how dumb this servers raid scene is.

Its quite silly when you take a step back and breathe huh?

[Daldaen]

I like how you didn't quote the next post, 12 minutes later where he says the situation was handled and everything was good.

What does a FFA ring war turn in have to do with a VP rotation though?
The reason it was handled is because at my urging I reminded the awakened officers just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Leapfrogging an already set up raid force shortly after the 24 hour limit passed, while technically allowable, is a dick move.

Likewise, waiting until shortly after the 24 hour limit passed, and teaming up with another guild to do your ring war on a Sunday afternoon, because you don't have the force to do it, while it may technically be allowed, is a dick move.

If you're not big enough to be able to do a Ring War in the 24 hours following a pop on your own, team up with a guild and share a slot, or bow out entirely. Otherwise you're occupying a slot in a rotation you're not capable of doing in a timely manner delaying everyone else's turn in the rotation.

There is a reason those 24 hour and team up rules are in place. Trying to bypass them isn't going to be very agreeable to the other guilds who adhere to them. Especially when even if you follow them, and take an FFA spawn (although in a dickish way) you're still met with QQ.

[getsome]

This defeats the spirit of the agreement.

Awakened started a Ring war last week, just a few minutes before the 24 hours was due to expire when a rotation guild was about to start it.


Maybe that legal technicality of waiting until it's a few minutes past 24 hours,

I would agree that waiting a few minutes past the 24 hour mark would be construed as trying to angle a technicality, but 12 hours after the window expires during a prime time EQ weekend is not a few minutes. Truth be known, Breaken had a bone to pick, and needed an excuse. You all were in PoG doing your thing and heaven forbid you guys could not poach another ring war.

Short term I am sure some folks in awakened are pounding their chest with all the VP dragons they got. Long term you probable went from 3 AoW kills a month to maybe one. Kudos on smart leadership making informed decisions.

[Daldaen]

Its quite silly when you take a step back and breathe huh?

Been breathing for months.

I was 3-boxing Velketor's the other day. Got some solid exp. Before that I spent a little bit figuring out a strategy to 3-box Keldor in Kael. Was some good fun. Especially when your charmable dog pet wields weapons.

Also I did some grouping in Paludal Caverns on a Druid. Man was it boring but also hilarious to see how OP people are at that level with Fungi tunics. The dynamics are really weird with groups too, you just invite everyone because there's no penalty to do so. I think we had War, Ranger, Beast x3, Druid for a solid part of the night. I even saved a Beastlord from purple club at one point!

Sometimes you just need to re-immerse yourself by rerolling on a different server with a different culture/rule set and figure things out again. It's fun.

[Kagey]

Just think when you are playing golf, and the group of 4 in front of you who suck at golf are taking waaaaaay to long to play the course. And will not let people who have the skill to play on that course play through. That's what is happening with ring wars.

[Mendo]

Just think when you are playing golf, and the group of 4 in front of you who suck at golf are taking waaaaaay to long to play the course. And will not let people who have the skill to play on that course play through. That's what is happening with ring wars.

The people that suck and do let people play through still get to play at their own pace and style of play...

[Kagey]

The people that suck and do let people play through still get to play at their own pace and style of play...

not at the cost of ruining the course. that's what mini putt is for.

[Daldaen]

The people that suck and do let people play through still get to play at their own pace and style of play...

Yep, if only there were a way. For each instance of play to be separate so they may each go at their own pace. Instances perhaps we will call them...

Really rotations are always going to sink on this server unless mandated with a ban hammer. If you don't like the pace or style dictated by those who put in the most time, tough luck until that ban hammer comes out.

But there are servers out there that do favor such differing play styles. P99 unfortunately isn't one of them.

[Jameus]

3 spot rotation incoming?

Awakened, AM/Rustle/guild xyz, CSG

Seems reasonable. Considering it took 36hrs over a weekend, waiting until orime time, to muster an adequate force this should work out fantastically.

[Kagey]

3 spot rotation incoming?

Awakened, AM/Rustle/guild xyz, CSG

Seems reasonable. Considering it took 36hrs over a weekend, waiting until orime time, to muster an adequate force this should work out fantastically.

That looks to be a great rotation compromise. AM/Rustle share rotation.

[Naxi]

This whole server is full of people who are scared of competition. #freeVP


Remember that time when Taken competed in VP against IB and TMO? Oh yeah, me either.

[Kagey]

Remember that time when Taken competed in VP against IB and TMO? Oh yeah, me either.

no. I was BDA. And Taken beat us quite a bit.

[Naxi]

Remember that time naxi did something other than show up for raids? Yeah, me either.

Yeah warm bodies like Lanuven are the worst, 2nd class guild members. I was even warmer than him.

[getsome]

This guy Vlor sat here and harrassed me in PS camp for like 45 minutes saying I wasn't at the camp even though the PH was down at the time...I am back and kill PH just as i t pops..he then tries to say its his camp even though he didnt touch a ph and he sits and watches me clear phs for hours till PS pops and then trains a mob on me and keeps opening trade box so i lose my target...fears my mob and eventually causes me to wipe on PS and takes it himself...he was anon so if anyone knows who this guy is please help me to call him out! Petitioned hours before after he killed himself training me at PS camp and no response, also petitioned on the forums.My hopes are that his guild will see this and punish this guy for being such a scumbag and never allow him to be associated with them again...again Vlor is his name and he is a 60 Necro

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184030

[Cecily]

^ lol

[Pokesan]

brutal

[kotton05]

Remember that time when Taken competed in VP against IB and TMO? Oh yeah, me either.

i can't wait to kill people in VP again, big sirks plz!!!!

[Naxi]

This whole server is full of people who are scared of competition. #freeVP


Remember that time when BDA competed in VP against IB and TMO? Oh yeah, me either.

no. I was BDA. And Taken beat us quite a bit.

Opps had to adjust it, same applies. You got me, darn it. Damn, I've been had by Kagey.

[kotton05]

not at the cost of ruining the course. that's what mini putt is for.

dude you're making me cringe more than raev does... wtf is wrong with you.. Im pretty sure if the Catholic Church saw you, they would start promoting abortions...

learn 2 post?

[Kagey]

dude you're making me cringe more than raev does... wtf is wrong with you.

learn 2 post?

your vagueness has me scratching my head. do you mean shitty people who flood a golf course will not make it shitty place to play legit golf?? cause it will.. What a fucking dumb thing to continue a discussion on.

out of all the comments you pick this one lol

learn 2 discuss?

[kotton05]

your vagueness has me scratching my head. do you mean shitty people who flood a golf course will not make it shitty place to play legit golf?? cause it will.. What a fucking dumb thing to continue a discussion on.

out of all the comments you pick this one lol

learn 2 discuss?

This is why people talk about you when you're not around.

[Pumpedup]

this vlor guy is doing work

[Detoxx]

Maybe that legal technicality of waiting until it's a few minutes past 24 hours, making it FFA absolves you from the need to adhere to the teams agreed upon in the rotation works in the LawyerQuest courts of Sirken

Oh is that what your leadership told you? Lets, again do some math...

Server Repop - Saturday morning, 250am EST. Badain, of course, respawns with this server repop. Aftermath Ring war time - 3pm EST Sunday.

36 hours. Thats 12 hours of FFA where you could have done it and WE could have lost it. Thats the risk you take. But go ahead, keep lying to yourselves and saying what you did was ok. Considering I have had members of Awakened tell me they knew it was wrong as well,your leaderships sentiments mean nothing to me.

Solid work on destroying, yet again, something good on this server during perpetual Velious. You guys REALLY needed that VP loot, im sure.

[kotton05]

Taken babies are like the Forrest Gumps that never did anything.

[Sirban]

Enable pvp in said zones. I watch all you care bears cry

[Detoxx]

Yep and last time it went FFA after 24-hours and Awakened turned in Detoxx immediately posted in the raid discussion thread claiming the rotation was over... Even though as you stated, "that's the rule y'all wrote".

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2295502&postcount=3

So apparently when it's in the rules, and the rules were followed in this case where 24 hours passed and FFA Badain still is up, and it's black and white as you say, they still claimed the rotation is over? Seems to just have been following the rules as they were written?

Wrong again, Misinformed. Want proof? Here you go, example of the lies this guild tells to fill their agenda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmjI9Y3K6A8

Beginning of the Fraps you can see me say hey guys, we have 20 mins left before its FFA, were otw.

Your response: 15 minutes actually.

Again, heres some more math for the hard pressed:

from when you said 15 mins left, it was 0:01 second into the fraps. You turn in before the fraps is over, which is only 9:29 seconds long therefore making it impossible that you waited until it was FFA.

Try again.

[Daldaen]

Oh is that what your leadership told you? Lets, again do some math...

Server Repop - Saturday morning, 250am EST. Badain, of course, respawns with this server repop. Aftermath Ring war time - 3pm EST Sunday.

36 hours. Thats 12 hours of FFA where you could have done it and WE could have lost it. Thats the risk you take. But go ahead, keep lying to yourselves and saying what you did was ok. Considering I have had members of Awakened tell me they knew it was wrong as well,your leaderships sentiments mean nothing to me.

Solid work on destroying, yet again, something good on this server during perpetual Velious. You guys REALLY needed that VP loot, im sure.

And you had 36 hours on a weekend, but didn't do it before the point you felt comfortable skirting the "don't double dip and team up with a guild who already has a slot" rule. You should probably find a guild to team up with so you don't need to wait 36 hours before trying the ring war. Or just bow out of the rotation until you can take it on during your 24 hour window. That's all I'm saying.

Regarding the other thing, I was fairly sure it was not even close and you were getting trolled by Chocomao, but being that I was not there, I'll concede to you they probably jumped the gun and turned in at 23h 50min. Dick move Awakened. Good thing they left and let you do your war after said dick move though right?

[Detoxx]

And you had 36 hours on a weekend, but didn't do it before the point you felt comfortable skirting the "don't double dip and team up with a guild who already has a slot" rule. You should probably find a guild to team up with so you don't need to wait 36 hours before trying the ring war. Or just bow out of the rotation until you can take it on during your 24 hour window. That's all I'm saying.

Regarding the other thing, I was fairly sure it was not even close and you were getting trolled by Chocomao, but being that I was not there, I'll concede to you they probably jumped the gun and turned in at 23h 50min. Dick move Awakened. Good thing they left and let you do your war after said dick move though right?

Rofl, youre high. They did not leave.

Spin Harder.

Again. FFA means FFA, if theres ties to what u can and cannot do on FFA then...it isnt FFA is it?

[Erati]

Hes talking about a different situation than the most recent. I think there was a previous time it went really really close to 24 hour ( if not past it ) where we turned in but then decided to pass on the war.

I wasnt there for that one tho, but I am pretty sure Dald is just getting wires crossed.

[Pokesan]

Hes talking about a different situation than the most recent. I think there was a previous time it went really really close to 24 hour ( if not past it ) where we turned in but then decided to pass on the war.

I wasnt there for that one tho, but I am pretty sure Dald is just getting wires crossed.


why would you turn in and fail on purpose?

[Detoxx]

Hes talking about a different situation than the most recent. I think there was a previous time it went really really close to 24 hour ( if not past it ) where we turned in but then decided to pass on the war.

I wasnt there for that one tho, but I am pretty sure Dald is just getting wires crossed.

Again, wrong. You all took so long to "pass on it" that it despawned.

You guys are bad at this...

[Daldaen]

Rofl, youre high. They did not leave.

Spin Harder.

Again. FFA means FFA, if theres ties to what u can and cannot do on FFA then...it isnt FFA is it?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2295518&postcount=5

Isn't this the one where Awakened left and Aftermath did the ring war after the turn in. Which were the fraps you linked? Or am I getting my dramas mixed up?

Oh it despawned, Lololol. Did you get to turn in during one of Awakened's turns as a result? If not that's pretty lame.

[delfi]

We didn't. Eratani wasn't there. We turned in, there was massive QQ and officer discussions ensued between guilds. Then despawned before second turn-in was done.

To my knowledge, we have never turned in with the intention of failing as a guild. Certainly not since the rotation has been in place.

[Detoxx]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2295518&postcount=5

Isn't this the one where Awakened left and Aftermath did the ring war after the turn in. Which were the fraps you linked? Or am I getting my dramas mixed up?

Oh it despawned, Lololol. Did you get to turn in during one of Awakened's turns as a result? If not that's pretty lame.

Lol, you kidding? No, we didnt.

[Erati]

the despawned war counted as our turn if I do believe tho, this is besides the point.

just trying to catch up Dald

[delfi]

You guys are bad at this...

Your rule lawyering skills aren't impressive, they are sad. Why can't you understand this?

Please stop breaking rotations. It really isn't complicated. In a rotation, if you can't kill something, then you don't get to kill it. Other guilds are nice enough to give you a free shot at a mob to make life easier on all the guilds and reduce churn. Stop abusing this.

You'll find Velious much easier if you accept the fact that you can't take on any encounter 24/7/365...sometimes you just have to walk away or wait until later. If you lose the mob, not a big deal another will come soon.

[Freakish]

Gimp, they legitimately think AM/Rustle broke the rules on them. And that they are in the right.

Except that they've benefited greatly by this. They've gotten an extra ring war, a prime time AoW, an extra round of VP out of the rotation being broken. Completely uncontested. It seems to me like its in awakened's best interest to pretend indignation and continue breaking rotations.

[Detoxx]

Gimp, they legitimately think AM/Rustle broke the rules on them. And that they are in the right.

Except that they've benefited greatly by this. They've gotten an extra ring war, a prime time AoW, an extra round of VP out of the rotation being broken. Completely uncontested. It seems to me like its in awakened's best interest to pretend indignation and continue breaking rotations.

Breaken no where to be found, burying his head due to bad leadership decisions, as per usual.

[Nitsude]

This is the gift that keeps on giving.

[Jameus]

3 spot rotation incoming?

Awakened, AM/Rustle/guild xyz, CSG

Seems reasonable. Considering it took 36hrs over a weekend, waiting until orime time, to muster an adequate force this should work out fantastically.

Breaken has this thing called a full time job. Also, I'm sure he's available via skype but instead you expect him to grandstand on a public forum. There is already a space where you guys can discuss this between guild leadership. A good first step might be to consider combining your potential rotation spots with Rustle seeing as you guys want to co-raid anyways.


I apologize for our members being poor at forumquest.. we're usually just too busy in game to get a lot of practice in when it comes to the whole forumquest/trollfest thing.

[icedwards]

Breaken has this thing called a full time job. Also, I'm sure he's available via skype but instead you expect him to grandstand on a public forum. There is already a space where you guys can discuss this between guild leadership. A good first step might be to consider combining your potential rotation spots with Rustle seeing as you guys want to co-raid anyways.


I apologize for our members being poor at forumquest.. we're usually just too busy in game to get a lot of practice in when it comes to the whole forumquest/trollfest thing.

In Rustle's defense, they do fine during their rotation spot pairing up with a guild outside of the rotation.

[Detoxx]

Breaken has this thing called a full time job. Also, I'm sure he's available via skype but instead you expect him to grandstand on a public forum. There is already a space where you guys can discuss this between guild leadership. A good first step might be to consider combining your potential rotation spots with Rustle seeing as you guys want to co-raid anyways.


I apologize for our members being poor at forumquest.. we're usually just too busy in game to get a lot of practice in when it comes to the whole forumquest/trollfest thing.

No answer on skype, or the Skype channel with all guilds in it to represent rotations. Wasn't talking about here

[Jameus]

You're absolutely right Murk! They have done well I think. Wow.. now there's an elephant in the room.

[tombombadilo21]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=254702
wow 60 post.

Melting down.

[Jameus]

No answer on skype, or the Skype channel with all guilds in it to represent rotations. Wasn't talking about here

Yeah it turns out he must be really busy today. Hasn't been around on ours either, where he's normally fairly active. In other words he isn't hiding or anything he's just not around. Sorry man!

[fan D]

Yeah it turns out he must be really busy today. Hasn't been around on ours either, where he's normally fairly active. In other words he isn't hiding or anything he's just not around. Sorry man!

sounds like a poll in in order, maybe Awakened can have a week long vote and whoever is elected can reepresent Breaken when he is MIA

[Expediency]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=254702
wow 60 post.

Melting down.

The thread is about a raid rotation, it makes sense that the top posters in the thread would be people who are involved in the raid rotation; thats most of the top 10 and like it or not they all have business here. The rest are shit stirrers/trolls, you can decide which of those two you are. You may have some skin in this game but we dont know because you're using an account with 7 posts and no obvious character name or guild affiliation.

The worst part of that link is not the raid officers who are actively sorting out business, it is that the guy from BDA has 20 posts in a thread about a rotation he's not part of on a server he "quit."

[delfi]

The thread is about a raid rotation, it makes sense that the top posters in the thread would be people who are involved in the raid rotation; thats most of the top 10 and like it or not they all have business here. The rest are shit stirrers/trolls, you can decide which of those two you are. You may have some skin in this game but we dont know because you're using an account with 7 posts and no obvious character name or guild affiliation.

The worst part of that link is not the raid officers who are actively sorting out business, it is that the guy from BDA has 20 posts in a thread about a rotation he's not part of on a server he "quit."

Lol Detoxx has a way of communicating with other guild leaders. He is venting because things aren't going fast enough or because he just wants to rant. Same goes for all other officers/leaders in this thread.

Please get together when everyone is free and post the agreement you all come up with in Raid Discussions. Until then, lets the trolls troll and the ranters rant. That is all this is :)

[Joyelle]

You're fucking delusional if you expect everyone to answer you immediately in the middle of a work day, Detoxx. We can't all hop on Skype between pizza deliveries the way you can.

[Detoxx]

You're fucking delusional if you expect everyone to answer you immediately in the middle of a work day, Detoxx. We can't all hop on Skype between pizza deliveries the way you can.

I got a wonderful new job where I probably make 3x what you make but hey, that's cool too!

[delfi]

I got a wonderful new job where I probably make 3x what you make but hey, that's cool too!

Possibly. Your dick is definitely bigger than hers though.

[mefdinkins]

Satirical Transcript released from Detoxx's debate when asked, "why are you so mad?"

Detoxx - Thank you, moderator Chest. Our mobs are fleeing from Aftermath. They're going to Awakened. They're going to many other guilds. You look at what CSG is doing to our guild in terms of taking our mobs. They're devaluing their DKP, and there's nobody in Aftermath to fight them. And we have a very good fight. And we have a winning fight. Because they're using their DKP as a piggy bank to rebuild their characters and deck them out with items, and many other guilds are doing the same thing.

So we're losing our good mobs, so many of them. When you look at what's happening in Awakened, a friend of mine who builds guilds said it's the eighth wonder of the world. They're building some of the biggest mob farming enterprises anywhere in the world, some of the most sophisticated, some of the best mob farming. With the Aftermath, as he said, not so much.

So higher DPS characters are leaving. You see that, a leading DPS wizard leaving leaving. Thousands of toons leaving Aftermath. They're all leaving. And we can't allow it to happen anymore. As far as non-BIS loot is concerned and so many other things, I think Awakened and I agree on that. We probably disagree a little bit as to numbers and amounts and what we're going to do, but perhaps we'll be talking about that later.

But we have to stop our mobs from being stolen from us. We have to stop our contributing characters from leaving Aftermath and, with it, firing all of our guildies. All you have to do is take a look at our AM morning crew that logs in from Indianapolis. They left -- 1,400 people. They're going to other guilds. So many hundreds and hundreds of guilds are doing this.

We cannot let it happen. Under my plan, I'll be reducing DKP taxes tremendously, from 35 percent to 15 percent for FTE'ers, trackers and raid attendance. That's going to be a DKP creator like we haven't seen since BDA didn't even have DKP system. It's going to be a beautiful thing to watch.

Raiders will come. They will build up their character. They will expand. New raiders will start. And I look very, very much forward to doing it. We have to renegotiate our rotations, and we have to stop these guilds from stealing our mobs during our rotations and our DKP.

[Mendo]

You'll always be a pizza boy to me

I think I've seen this movie before. You ordering a sausage pizza?

[kotton05]

In Rustle's defense, they do fine during their rotation spot pairing up with a guild outside of the rotation.

but for awakened/taken being so keen on seconds (see BDA to Class C for example) there is no way to rule lawyer this wasn't a ffa mob that we could of just held a server wide ringwar np=-)

[Cecily]

A good first step might be to consider combining your potential rotation spots with Rustle seeing as you guys want to co-raid anyways.

Curious. What do the words "free for all" mean to you?

[icedwards]

I hate to invoke a slippery slope argument, but what's stopping CSG from demanding 3 separate spots in the ring war rotation and then allowing Badain to slip beyond 24 hours to team up if that's how FFA works?

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I think CSG has more integrity than to pull that move, and I see Rustle's/AM's take on the literal definition of FFA. Rumor has it Sirken's working towards a server enforced ring rotation anyways.

[Pokesan]

yes but what about *outlandish hypothetical*?

[Lanuven]

You're fucking delusional if you expect everyone to answer you immediately in the middle of a work day, Detoxx. We can't all hop on Skype between pizza deliveries the way you can.

I got a wonderful new job where I probably make 3x what you make but hey, that's cool too!

I wouldn't expect everyone to keep track of Detoxx's RL job, but he was recently promoted to head baker after his many years of service as delivery boy.

[Mon Sep 19 16:05:52 2016] Detoxx says out of character, 'ya i used to deliver pizzas, was nice! but ya i got a new job baking quite a bit more pizzas!'

Sorry for the confusion.

[Joyelle]

I got a wonderful new job where I probably make 3x what you make but hey, that's cool too!

You can believe whatever you want if it makes you feel better about yourself, cupcake.

[Whirled]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OZlnauwS2Y
The key phrase was, extra anchovies. Good movie from 80s.

[Utmost]

Thank for the read over last couple days. Couple of things that happened to me during this time:

Developed "watch swagger"
Learned 3x0 is still 0

[maskedmelon]

Everyone calling Awakened dicks kinds bothers me, especially giant dicks. See, in some regards (most especially from the perspective of one) being called a dick can be seen as a compliment. It boasts strongly of power, because the suggestion is that they fuck others. I do not think we should play Awakened's swollen sense of superiority like this. Instead, I propose we refer to them as urinary track infections or "UTI" for short. They are unpleasant, annoying and can render dicks impotent. Since the only dicks on p99 are in Awakened (and FoH), the label perfectly illustrates how the UTIs are ruining things for themselves by fucking with the assholes who are in Rustle (vp anyone?) (or any other competent guild) when they could be terrorizing pussies (((bda))) instead on Phinigel.

[mefdinkins]

Everyone calling Awakened dicks kinds bothers me, especially giant dicks. See, in some regards (most especially from the perspective of one) being called a dick can be seen as a compliment. It boasts strongly of power, because the suggestion is that they fuck others. I do not think we should play Awakened's swollen sense of superiority like this. Instead, I propose we refer to them as urinary track infections or "UTI" for short. They are unpleasant, annoying and can render dicks impotent. Since the only dicks on p99 are in Awakened (and FoH), the label perfectly illustrates how the UTIs are ruining things for themselves by fucking with the assholes who are in Rustle (vp anyone?) (or any other competent guild) when they could be terrorizing pussies (((bda))) instead on Phinigel.

"Awakened are dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And Rustle are pussies. And Aftermath is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything.

Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes.

I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!"

[maskedmelon]

Awakened are dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And Rustle are pussies. And Aftermath is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything.

Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes.

I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!

This is what a firey UTI looks like folks. Don't let it win.

[mefdinkins]

Maskedmelon, I posted a quote from "Team America: World Police" with some guilds substituted because I thought it could get a chuckle or two out of some people.

Please note that I do generally believe all people are good and/or have the capacity to be good, including all members of Awakened/Rustle/Aftermath/CSG/and any other guild and all trolls on P99.

I also believe that certain external factors influence individual's behavior and sometimes it pushes or incentivizes them to act like dicks, pussies, or assholes. I posted the above comment for comic effect only. Best of luck to all members of P99 and I wish you all have a blessed day and may RNG be in your favor.

[Nommis]

At least we all get along in my happy place. Let's heal together brothers.

http://i.imgur.com/ObD1I2G.gif

[Maner]

3 spot rotation incoming?

Awakened, AM/Rustle/guild xyz, CSG

Seems reasonable. Considering it took 36hrs over a weekend, waiting until orime time, to muster an adequate force this should work out fantastically.

12 hours where awakened could have done it themselves....

[Jameus]

12 hours where awakened could have done it themselves....

We had already scheduled a Plane of Growth Raid. Hurray for more FT5 items!

We also assumed AM would take their turn close to on time (even if a little past) and we weren't going to pressure them on it. It was extremely busy over those past few days, so a small amount of leeway didn't seem unreasonable. We were doing our thing and AM was gonna do theirs... Trying to do the right thing and all :)

[Maner]

I hate to invoke a slippery slope argument, but what's stopping CSG from demanding 3 separate spots in the ring war rotation and then allowing Badain to slip beyond 24 hours to team up if that's how FFA works?

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I think CSG has more integrity than to pull that move, and I see Rustle's/AM's take on the literal definition of FFA. Rumor has it Sirken's working towards a server enforced ring rotation anyways.

Absolutely nothing, the issue becomes the fact that they run the risk of losing the chance if another guild turns in when it goes ffa. The same exact risk that aftermath took, good thing awakened would rather bitch than make aftermath pay for waiting more than 24 hours

[Maner]

We had already scheduled a Plane of Growth Raid. Hurray for more FT5 items!

We also assumed AM would take their turn close to on time (even if a little past) and we weren't going to pressure them on it. It was extremely busy over those past few days, so a small amount of leeway didn't seem unreasonable. We were doing our thing and AM was gonna do theirs... Trying to do the right thing and all :)

Why the change of heart on pressuring aftermath? Considering you all have turned in before the 24 hour period ended on previous occasions? If you're going to try and spin it, at least keep it close to the actual way awakened acts.

I mean in the last couple weeks awakened has killed a dragon on another guilds FTE, kited dain and then refused to concede and has had people leave the racing line for one target in tov just to change mid race because a better target spawned. Hard to believe anything about awakened playing by the rules right now...

[Jameus]

Why the change of heart on pressuring aftermath? Considering you all have turned in before the 24 hour period ended on previous occasions? If you're going to try and spin it, at least keep it close to the actual way awakened acts.

I'm not spinning anything at all man. We just felt it was the right thing to do at the time.. as discussed at the time. I mean next time we might not afford the same leeway especially if we aren't busy doing Growth. It's totally crazy, but we aren't a bunch of assholes lol.

[Tankdan]

I got a wonderful new job where I probably make 3x what you make but hey, that's cool too!

In on dick measuring! http://imgur.com/yksiSzc

10 inches strong, like bull.

[Breaken]

Maner, clearly you are misinformed. But what else can I expect?

awakened has killed a dragon on another guilds FTE

What mob? Aaryonar? Sorry, but Sirken has said we were in the right. A different mob? Please, enlighten me.

kited dain and then refused to concede

Since when is a dropped pull a kite? The mob reset. Well, actually, it didn't fully because Rustle spam hailed him to freeze him.

had people leave the racing line for one target in tov just to change mid race because a better target spawned

This one is the best. After Aftermath stalled Awakened from doing anything by threatening that this happened, I had to explain how their own fraps showed otherwise. You know, the melee damage showing it was Aikons that was the one who left early.. along with half a dozen other Aftermath... and then Hear ran past the frapser as he died. Only to then have the video cropped to erase that part. Then, finally,

[Fri Oct 07 20:34:58 2016] Moosetoe tells you, 'After reviewing further, it's clearly misidentification. There was no intent to stall inappropriately.'

But hey, keep drinking the koolaid.

[Maner]

So you aren't sayin that your racers weren't off the line when the other dragon spawned, you're just saying it was ok because aftermath was off the line too?

You pulled dain into camp then vulak spawned so you dropped and had people camp out in order to race for vulak. How many other FTE messaged went out while people were camping? That is clearly a stall.

Not sure how you can "be in the right" rustle had FTE on aary didnt they?

I also heard about a magi up in hate, where a group of 20+ awakened rolled over a group for a potential Mage staff? A group that single pulled it and so the awakened raid ran up and zerged it in their camp...

[Breaken]

So you aren't sayin that your racers weren't off the line when the other dragon spawned, you're just saying it was ok because aftermath was off the line too?

I am absolutely saying we were not off the line. Aftermath was, and it was proven in their own fraps. Hence the "misidentification". The person(s) assumed off the line early were all Aftermath.


You pulled dain into camp then vulak spawned so you dropped and had people camp out in order to race for vulak. How many other FTE messaged went out while people were camping? That is clearly a stall.

Dropping a pull is not stalling. If we were to ping pong him, or spam hail him (like others), or just intentionally pull/drop/pull/drop, sure. That seems like a stall. Dropping a pull and letting it reset? Sorry, maybe our definitions are different.


Not sure how you can "be in the right" rustle had FTE on aary didnt they?

No, they did not.

[fan D]

Ecuse me can Awakened plz take a poll to see if they agree with Breakens points or not ?

[fan D]

btw, does anyone find raiding fun anymore? Anyones who has done ToV and all the Velious raid content for more than a couple months straight should find it unbearable and incredibly boring, if you still enjoy killing the same dragons you got a real sickness

you don't even need the items, it's a PvE server

plz go do something with ur lives

[Expediency]

btw, does anyone find raiding fun anymore? Anyones who has done ToV and all the Velious raid content for more than a couple months straight should find it unbearable and incredibly boring, if you still enjoy killing the same dragons you got a real sickness

you don't even need the items, it's a PvE server

plz go do something with ur lives

We still have a good time raiding. CSG didnt gorge ourselves on all the content in the first six months, we still have mobs that we havent killed yet. Casual is the way to go. Server isnt going anywhere.

[Aata]

You can believe whatever you want if it makes you feel better about yourself, cupcake.

He makes cupcakes too? Now that would be impressive! ;)

[skarlorn]

i will cut my throat before i let azure guard kill anything relevant

[gummab]

btw, does anyone find raiding fun anymore? Anyones who has done ToV and all the Velious raid content for more than a couple months straight should find it unbearable and incredibly boring, if you still enjoy killing the same dragons you got a real sickness

you don't even need the items, it's a PvE server

plz go do something with ur lives

I find raiding with my guild buddies a good laugh loot is and always will be secondary in my eyes.

[Crom]

I find raiding with my guild buddies a good laugh loot is and always will be secondary in my eyes.

/This x100

[Cecily]

Since when is a dropped pull a kite? The mob reset. Well, actually, it didn't fully because Rustle spam hailed him to freeze him.

Is that what we did? That's interesting because Dain was stuck under the world pathing back the entire time you were gone in ToV. Qualifies as a stall imo. I seriously hope you didn't tell that lie to the staff.

[icedwards]

Is that what we did? That's interesting because Dain was stuck under the world pathing back the entire time you were gone in ToV. Qualifies as a stall imo. I seriously hope you didn't tell that lie to the staff.

Snackies was spam hailing Dain when Eratani tagged him at the well. Could have pulled anytime but I'm sure Getsome wanted petition fodder instead of pixels.

[Erati]

Is that what we did? That's interesting because Dain was stuck under the world pathing back the entire time you were gone in ToV. Qualifies as a stall imo. I seriously hope you didn't tell that lie to the staff.

Its not under the world when its literally under the castle pathing back lol

and he not only returned to the throne room, but Snackies had time to turn in his Dirk + say "You can count on my help" phrase.

Was not tagged until Djones began to summon druid pet.

in other news being back at work after living like a cave man for a week sucks

in other other news, its getting old hearing about 'stalling' from guilds that are not literally set up to pull. In the real Norrathian world, when such a claim is made the accuser is implying that the offender is keeping the mob occupied purposely away from their pull team extending the initial engage but not actively bringing it to camp. So many times when people call 'stall' or 'kite' they barely have anyone even in position to tag the mob and are usually just watching it with BS frapsing with no intention to bring in a mob to the camp. If you call a stall and the mob isnt then tagged immediately upon the other guild dropping aggro, then you were not prevented from doing anything and thusly are crying wolf.

[MilanderTruewield]

Stalling is stalling, whether or not another guild is in place to pull.

Also, guess what? A tree falling in the woods with no one there to hear it actually DOES make a sound!

[mefdinkins]

trollpocalypse is coming

[Skew]

Erati , Aftermath ate a 1 week ban due to a "kite" on Klandi (even though it wasn't) with no other guild in zone to contest. So I would re evaluate your views on a Dain stall.

[Erati]

1/24 Forsaken kites/stalls on Klandicar at northern scar of WW while their raid force zones out of ToV, then proceeds to kill.

Not sure if this is what you are referencing. I know you have very strong evidence supporting it was a wrongful suspension such as "even though it wasn't"... but I dont see these situations as comparable.

[Pokesan]

this thread is a contender

[Daldaen]

Reduce all raid target respawn to 2 hours. Remove all raid rules.

Would save everyone a huge amount of time and effort.

[brecon]

Reduce all raid target respawn to 2 hours. Remove all raid rules.

Would save everyone a huge amount of time and effort.

Or bring back a C/R rotation with a bag limit. By elite guilds setting up 'rotations' on entire elite keyed zones and '24 hour FTEs' on specific targets, all that does is forces all guilds into direct competition on the remaining mobs.

[Erati]

Part of the C/R issue I see nowdays is defining what bumps you up to the next Tier.

In Kunark, VP was easy to point to as moving up to the next level of raiding. Successful kills in VP were a great way to determine who was actually ready for the top of the end game.

In Velious, where would those lines even be drawn? ToV itself has many different Tiers of dragons to choose from, some even get left up for days ( Sevalak ). I dont believe it would be remotely close to the same cut and dry system the previous version of R/C was due to so much grey area in Velious raiding and the amount of targets with wider ranges of difficulty.

Would need a true lexicon of nerd rules to sort that out.

[khanable]

Why would anyone need to move a tier?

C - use whatever you want. Mages are a go. Shadow step for dayz
FFA - foot races/current rules
R - clear to the mob

Less congestion and everyone can shitlord in their preferred shitlord way

[kotton05]

Class W(Woushi) who's ever turn it is that week can't kill nothing till woushi dead.

[Skew]

1/24 Forsaken kites/stalls on Klandicar at northern scar of WW while their raid force zones out of ToV, then proceeds to kill.

Not sure if this is what you are referencing. I know you have very strong evidence supporting it was a wrongful suspension such as "even though it wasn't"... but I dont see these situations as comparable.

Correct. My evidence that it was not a kite is irrelevant to the point I am making though. You can and will get disciplined for a stall or kite irrespective of your opinion that another raid force has to be ready to go at that moment you're stalling.

[khanable]

I think aftermath eating the last suspension when no guild was contesting is evidence enough that the impact on another guild isn't considered

[Erati]

Correct. My evidence that it was not a kite is irrelevant to the point I am making though. You can and will get disciplined for a stall or kite irrespective of your opinion that another raid force has to be ready to go at that moment you're stalling.

I am not defining whether something is a kite or stall being based on whether the competition is ready, not in the slightest. Rules should not be broken period, there is some wiggle room people like to use if mobs are 'uncontested' but in general I fully agree that rules are to be followed regardless what other guilds are doing.

I was merely standing on a soap box saying that I am of the opinion that guilds should not be 'calling out stalls/kites' if they themselves are not ready. Has nothing to do with how the rules are applied or any specific encounter, but rather how the other raid forces act amongest themselves in a contested raid situation.

Time and time again, guilds will instantly call out for stalls/kites at different thresholds of all sorts of pulls. My opinion is that no one should be allowed to force the opposition to drop their pull due to a stall/kite unless they are ready to pick it up. This has everything to to do with the spirit of what those rules should represent and I was horrified when after we had a 6 hour guild summit, neither the kiting or stalling rule as it pertains to Velious was updated something even the Aftermath officers were hoping would get settled in the Nerd Summit '16.

Again, I'm speaking in general about how I feel about those specific rules and its still not too late to get them properly up to date.

[Lammy]

If this is how you feel, then why don't you wait until your raid force is ready before you pull?

[Erati]

If this is how you feel, then why don't you wait until your raid force is ready before you pull?

If Awakened calls out a kite or stall, you better believe it will get tagged when dropped is what Im saying.

[Cecily]

If Awakened calls out a kite or stall, you better believe it will get tagged when dropped is what Im saying.

Which, again, wasn't possible due to the way your guild chose to pull.

[Erati]

Which, again, wasn't possible due to the way your guild chose to pull.

To which I say

I seriously hope you didn't tell that lie to the staff.


Anything is possible if you put your mind to it, the glory of classic EQ :)