Rotation RNF Thread

[Breaken]

The only dealings Detoxx ever discusses is more rotations. I am sorry that Aftermath is not winning mobs that require mobilization, but Awakened is not interested in rotating more and more mobs, especially Velious ones. This is and has always been our stance. It was Aftermath's, and Forsaken's, and any other guild's that came before that, stance as well. You just happen to be in a slump, and in turn are pushing for rotations. Of course people will like you for that.

[Legday]

You just happen to be in a slump, and in turn are pushing for rotations. Of course people will like you for that.

Yet what I'm talking about easily pre dates any rotation or even rotation talks.

[Breaken]

Let's see. First topic that I remember discussing with Detoxx was him wanting to lower the allowed number of trackers. This was due to Aftermath (or maybe FA, whatever) did not have the number of willing trackers that Awakened did. So, I am supposed to just cut off my legs to level the playing field? When have you ever done that?

[paulgiamatti]

The only dealings Detoxx ever discusses is more rotations. I am sorry that Aftermath is not winning mobs that require mobilization, but Awakened is not interested in rotating more and more mobs, especially Velious ones. This is and has always been our stance. It was Aftermath's, and Forsaken's, and any other guild's that came before that, stance as well. You just happen to be in a slump, and in turn are pushing for rotations. Of course people will like you for that.

So basically: We want to keep the raid scene a shitty place for everyone because a whole bunch of us have no lives and we will net more pixels while also blocking others out of content.

Wow.

[Gimp]

So basically: We want to keep the raid scene a shitty place for everyone because a whole bunch of us have no lives and we will net more pixels while also blocking others out of content.

Wow.

To be fair, that's always been the MO of this server..but back then, it was to block gear because "Winter was coming." now that we've been in Velious for a year and we're staring at the end, the only thing keeping these people going is incessant greed and their overinflated, underserved pixel egos.

Clowns gonna clown though.

[Legday]

Let's see. First topic that I remember discussing with Detoxx was him wanting to lower the allowed number of trackers. This was due to Aftermath (or maybe FA, whatever) did not have the number of willing trackers that Awakened did. So, I am supposed to just cut off my legs to level the playing field? When have you ever done that?

Jesus...we are going down this road?

Ok...that's because you idiots decided every single target in north was allowed 2 mages at it. What kind of insanity was that? Versus Rampage we had 2 mages total in north. Much more reasonable.

So we are dealing with Rampage who, as hardcore as we both were, know that more than 2 mages is just a stupid strain on of our people and a 1 way ticket to burnout, but you guys come in an insist its time for 20 mages in north?

[Breaken]

Actually, now that we are at the end of the timeline (other than patches) the only thing keeping these people going is the "competition". The definition of competition is relative, and to each their own, however I don't know a single person who would define it as a rotated mob.

As the overly used saying goes, there are plenty of games or servers you can play if you want rotated mobs. Most people in the "end game" guilds play to win. Again, winning is subjective, but rotations are, for the most part, boring.

That isn't to say we are opposed to all rotations, as evident by the ones that existed. But with the foot race rules existing, there are only so many mobs left that are "competitive" to me, as my definition is mobs that require mobilization, no hour lock in.

[khanable]

Damn Breaken. You've had 8 months to grow into the big pair of shoes you had to fill and you're still bumbling around like a clown.

You should go shit up a guild thread while you're online

[Nikkanu]

Wow. I was only able to make it to page 3 and I already have the brain cancer. #ThanksP99RaidScene

[Daldaen]

That has and always will be the MO on this server because that's what Sirken and Rogean want. They want the guild who is willing to extend their socks to the maximum length to reap the largest number of pixels. Because that's what was classic in their experience on the servers they played on live.

At this point in time, I think it's dumb but I also think it's dumb to want to rotate things with only 2 expansions of content. Especially since that list is going to continually grow. It's one of the issues the Class R rotation had. The rotation kept getting longer as more guilds came in. ( Though in fairness another huge issue with that was that the guilds rotating would team up and each get a different slot.). Eventually neckbeards will find 1 target every 4 or 5 weeks to be insufficient. Or being forced to split the loot a huge number of ways to be unfavorable. See this situation.

It's gonna be like this until the server finishes. Once the patches are done, and the updates stop, if they continue to say no to Luclin and PoP, you just gotta go custom with it. Any number of ways this could be done. Drop the respawn on the mobs to like 2 hours, let people gorge themselves on pixels. Drop the respawn on mobs to like 1 day, let guilds get a rotation day which they may kill any targets they wish, and maybe set a day or two for derpy competition. Release just Vex Thal and let people port in there from ToV or Mischief, would be neat to do with no AAs.

I still thought the idea of rotating Ring Wars had some value because it's not your typical raid. It's a 1.5 hour investment of 40-50+ players time. Not something you really want to race with.

It's why I went through the effort of setting up the rotation in the first place. Lots of wars are going to fail as a result. But I digress, I don't really give many cares about the state of this servers raid scene. I tried but people will never agree. View points are different and people always want others to change to their playstyle or view. Just isn't going to happen.

[Nixtar]

Actually, now that we are at the end of the timeline (other than patches) the only thing keeping these people going is the "competition".


Sounds like a good time to move on. Take a look back and acknowledge the good, along with the bad, times and ride off into the sunset. Your character's earned its right to float up into the Norrathian skies past Luclin, the Planes, and off into the memories of the expansions that followed.

But of course not, let's keep winning and competing to make sure we're number one and no one else can relive the good old days. That's the important thing, ain't it? Keep fighting until the raid scene becomes so petty and spiteful no one actually enjoy themselves anymore. YOU GOTTA F***ING WIN! CAUSE IF YOU DON'T WIN YOU'RE A LOSER!!!!! AND YOU'RE NOT A LOSER ARE YOU!??!?!?!?! #WINNING #P99 #17yOLDgame #GETdemPIXELS

[xKoopa]

Lol competition

That shit is not fun at all

[Joyelle]

Damn Breaken. You've had 8 months to grow into the big pair of shoes you had to fill and you're still bumbling around like a clown.

You should go shit up a guild thread while you're online

Cucumbers what happened to your sig with the SoDs and Detoxx?

[arsenalpow]

So basically: We want to keep the raid scene a shitty place for everyone because a whole bunch of us have no lives and we will net more pixels while also blocking others out of content.

Wow.

You mean the p99 status quo that the staff has supported for 6 years now? TMO gets suspended, BDA does a 2 week rotation with the entire server, we have a class R rotation for over a year, numerous offers to fully rotate Velious, etc. Rotations have been shot down by TMO, TR/IB, Rampage, Forsaken, Awakened, every goddamn time but only now some folks think it's a good idea and people want to shit on Awakened for it? Fuck that nonsense. Be consistent you nerds.

Rotate the entire goddamn server, a slot for anyone that wants it, so it can then implode like it always does because this server is filled with a bunch of sociopaths.

[Daldaen]

You mean the p99 status quo that the staff has supported for 6 years now? TMO gets suspended, BDA does a 2 week rotation with the entire server, we have a class R rotation for over a year, numerous offers to fully rotate Velious, etc. Rotations have been shot down by TMO, TR/IB, Rampage, Forsaken, Awakened, every goddamn time but only now some folks think it's a good idea and people want to shit on Awakened for it? Fuck that nonsense. Be consistent you nerds.

Rotate the entire goddamn server, a slot for anyone that wants it, so it can then implode like it always does because this server is filled with a bunch of sociopaths.

I love chest. Lololololol

[khanable]

Cucumbers what happened to your sig with the SoDs and Detoxx?

I'm hard at work creating something new!

And I wanted to show off how cool I looked as a gnome

Edit: chests post is going to bring swish into this thread. Damnit, chest.

[Daldaen]

I'm hard at work creating something new!

And I wanted to show off how cool I looked as a gnome

I hope it's classic.

Speaking of classic, this dude has some REALLY immersive EQ videos. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpT8BVtsAK-2lB6RQQiKarvGw82c52PDx

Seriously check them out. God damn is that UI incredible. And his experience playing the game is quintessential EQ. He doesn't care about no ZEM or finding a full group, he just goes out and adventures.

[arsenalpow]

I love chest. Lololololol

I'm not wrong. There's a reason why people are leaving p99 in goddamn droves and it's because they get to the raid scene and peace out. The raid guilds that stick it out are filled with 5+ year investment degenerates too scared to leave their pixels behind. Leaving p99 made EQ fun again. Staying on p99 to raid is just stress and drama and lack of sleep and sociopaths. I got to kill Vulak on phinny! At a convenient schedule! With no sociopaths dictating my fun!

I honestly feel the worst for CSG, forever resigned to do Sky or HoT or Hate/Fear clears because the man children that have been shutting on the raid scene for 6 years can't stand sharing.

[Daldaen]

Oh trust me I don't think you're wrong haha. I think for a lot of people it's just the overwhelming thought of starting over on a new server that keeps them here.

I am a bit surprised at the tenacity of CSG though. I would've suspected they peaced out long ago.

[arsenalpow]

And Phinny isn't even about the pixels, it's getting to hang out with my cool and normal pals that I've known for years and challenging ourselves with the content. I'd never raided Luclin before, seeing that Glyphed Serpent AE in action last night was hilarious. Tonight I'll pop my THO, Grieg, and Acrylia cherries. Luclin has been a blast and we aren't even a week in yet.

[Fifield]

I tried to read back through some of this, got from page 28 back to page 25 and now feel like i want to unfavourite P99 site from my computer good god

[Daldaen]

And Phinny isn't even about the pixels, it's getting to hang out with my cool and normal pals that I've known for years and challenging ourselves with the content. I'd never raided Luclin before, seeing that Glyphed Serpent AE in action last night was hilarious. Tonight I'll pop my THO, Grieg, and Acrylia cherries. Luclin has been a blast and we aren't even a week in yet.

Please tell me you had a few DPS who play in first person stay FDed the whole fight because they didn't know what happened... I loved that mob because you got to see who AFK auto attacked.

[Jameus]

I remember raiding Sssra on live and it was so much fun! All the melee dodging in and out of AE range lol. Some of the fights were so long too and you had to try and stay focused. Battle ressing/buffing so dps could get back in and keep fighting lol. Good times :)

[arsenalpow]

It's probably slightly undertuned based on what people were saying last night. We came into Luclin pretty well geared though despite being late to the party and we didn't raid for 5 days to let people stack AAs. All of our DPS with crits really mauls shit now.

[Speedi]

First off, I do commend you on a nice well written post.

You are probably right. Taken would not have gotten the experience inside Temple of Veeshan if it were not for Rampage. Point? I don't see one. I, along with many other ex Taken, are very grateful for the fun we had with Rampage. It's why we thought Awakened was a great idea. Turns out it was.

Sure it was a great idea! IMO it would be a bad idea if someone pulls up along side someone's pinto and offered to give them a Ferrari and they did not take it


Taken did everything they accomplished on their own prior to Velious, and even for awhile during Velious. We were very content with our progress. We went from super casual to somewhat casual to somewhat hardcore. Talk about building from the ground up. We competed for what we wanted and didn't ask for hand outs. If we wanted to compete on an FFA mob, we did. If we didn't, we didn't. So, because we didn't compete in the VP shit show, we were not relevant?

Like I previously stated, for me it wouldn't be a problem if you guys didn't act all smug, but that's a topic for another day. Competing and actually constantly killing something is two different things. So why you brought that up I am not sure.

I find it funny when people try to diminish Awakened by calling us Taken. Shows ignorance. Anyway, yes, we do kill Fear Golems and VS. Why? Because of Puppet Strings, Amulet of Necropotences, and Gnarled Staves. That's it. We compete on roughly one VS a month. That's about 10% of them. We also normally award these staves to whoever was tracking it. In the past 6 kills, that was 3 Mains. Mains who, as you said, have been waiting for years for their epic. We compete on Fear Golems now that they drop the loot that used to only be on Cazic Thule. This goes back to the point Daldaen made about Veeshan's Peak. There are always going to be highly sought after items that are just too rare to stop going for. Know what the funny part about this is? Aftermath competes on all of these as well. I guess that doesn't play into your motive for posting though.

I was not part of Aftermath. I was part of IB/Rampage. The bad part of Awakened IS Taken. Like I stated before in my post. I can count on one hand the amount of times I have had problems with people on this server. And what do you know, all of them were Taken.


Maybe you are misinformed, or maybe you are just spewing propaganda. Either way, the "facts" are that the guild bank was a 50/50 split on platinum. Taken was asked what their bank had, and Rampage matched it. A few months later, Hokushin did add an additional 500k to the bank. For that, and the original split, I (we) are grateful. Never implied we weren't.

Items? I don't believe we got any Bladestoppers from Rampage, as they were all mostly privately owned. Seeing as we have 4 *guild* lockets, I don't believe more than 1 of those came from Rampage, though there are members with personal ones. I do believe we got a decent amount of Prayers from their bank. Probably roughly 50% of our guild ones. Though again, there are personally owned ones.

All of these items, as well as the platinum, we are appreciative of, but these are the facts.

Its possible that some things was exaggerated. But off the top of my head I remember several million platinum, strings, and stoppers.


Taken absolutely killed contested Velious mobs. Maybe not ones that were priority to Rampage, though I don't really know, but I didn't know Rampage was the only guild in Velious. Maybe the only dominant one, but that doesn't mean there isn't competition elsewhere.

What? Lodizal (who you still farm every time its about to spawn) Kelorek`Dar & Keldor Dek`Torek? I mean you wasn't killing Klandicar - Zlandicar - Yelinak, anything in ToV? You surly didn't have any major target on farm status. I think you killed KT once or twice. And oh yea you killed Vindi often. Sorry I was wrong, totally forgot you had Vindi on lockdown


You are probably right that ex Rampage carried a lot of the weight in terms of strategy and geared players at first. I will say that the tracking load was shared.

Well at least you do admit that, kudos to you.


This could be said about any pair of guilds that merged. Rustle would be nothing without the ex IB/Rampage that came back to the game to carry them. Aftermath would be nothing without the assistance they got from Asgard. I don't buy that Awakened would be *nothing*, but I agree Awakened (beyond the fact of not existing, still being called Taken) would not be the top guild on the server. However, at this point, as was said by someone else, Awakened is far from just ex-TRamps. Many, many of our top contributors are Awakened through and through.

FYI Rustle IS Ex IB/Rampage with a few BDA and some newer recruits whom we are blessed to have. And sure, I am sure your Taken guys are helping out more after all my Rampage pals have been carrying them all this time. I would hope they would catch on by now.

Finally, I don't know who you are referencing about acting smug, though I am sure, as with every guild, there are smug people in Awakened. However, at this point in Awakened, the success is completely in the hands of Awakened members. I don't think many of us are overly prideful. I believe most of us are just the right amount. As Detoxx implied, every week is a new week. Being great this week has nothing to do with being great last week, or bad for that matter. There are some people who believe we dominate every week, and sure, they are probably a little overly satisfied with our kill lists, but they earned it. They are the ones who make it happen.

In the end, most, if not all, of us are grateful for everything Rampage did for the formation of Awakened, but we have been self sufficient and self accomplished for quite some time.

Good statement and I wont say anything about it /salute

And FYI I have many friends in Awakened. Some of my closest friends in game. But I will admit most are my old Rampage pals. Some Taken people are my favorite, like Rootum for example. Awesome guy whom I love to hang out with.

And we cant forget Sweeni! He is absolutely my best friend in game, I would quit playing if I wasn't able to talk to Sweeni on a daily basis!



In closing I will say even though we disagree on some points, you don't try to spin much. I respect that, and I also respect the fact that you done your best to be honest rather than just tell outright lies. /salute

[bktroost]

^Rustled.

[Speedi]

Speedi is literally half retarded. Should hear the guy talk in Teamspeak.

Dumb guy is too dumb to realize Taken helped Rampage out probably more than Rampage helped Taken. If Taken didn't come over, FAT alliance would have kept dick-smacking Rampage.

Now, go put your helmet on and sit in the corner, Speedi.

Gotta love these anon accounts. Not even worth a decent reply. Take off your tinfoil hat my friend.

[paulgiamatti]

I've always championed rotations, but rotating just the ToV/VP/ST/ring war quadrant wouldn't be anything like the class system, whether staff or player enforced. There's still plenty of other shit in the game you nerds can stare at walls for 16 hours for. There's still Kael, there's still Yelinak and HoT and Velk and the rest of Kunark. There's still fucking Ragefire and Naggy and Vox and the planes. Get your socks dirty on those and let's stop making the end game a complete time-wasting chore and rotate the top of the top. I mean, rotate *something* and just accept the pixel loss and enjoy the free time. This isn't difficult.

[Nune]

I'm not wrong. There's a reason why people are leaving p99 in goddamn droves and it's because they get to the raid scene and peace out. The raid guilds that stick it out are filled with 5+ year investment degenerates too scared to leave their pixels behind. Leaving p99 made EQ fun again. Staying on p99 to raid is just stress and drama and lack of sleep and sociopaths. I got to kill Vulak on phinny! At a convenient schedule! With no sociopaths dictating my fun!

I honestly feel the worst for CSG, forever resigned to do Sky or HoT or Hate/Fear clears because the man children that have been shutting on the raid scene for 6 years can't stand sharing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7mjIgXSjw0

:cool:

[Detoxx]

The only dealings Detoxx ever discusses is more rotations. I am sorry that Aftermath is not winning mobs that require mobilization, but Awakened is not interested in rotating more and more mobs, especially Velious ones. This is and has always been our stance. It was Aftermath's, and Forsaken's, and any other guild's that came before that, stance as well. You just happen to be in a slump, and in turn are pushing for rotations. Of course people will like you for that.

You're literally insane. What mobs require mobilization with this system? None. If it does, were camped there and ready to move on an fte lock out. But go ahead, continue with the propoganda.

My rotation proposals have NOTHING to do with my own guild. I, as CSG and other entities can confirm, have tried to make this a pleasant and opportune place for all top end guilds to play. Tell me, how many mobs did CSG get when we were suspended? Oh, zero. Right. How many did they get when you were suspended? Too many to count. And not just shit mobs, nor were they mobs we made a deal with.
We gave them high value, big target mobs. (Yelinak left up for them, Dain, King Tormax, LtK, amongst others).

We did not bother them if they were contesting something and were there before us. We rotated ST golems with them, we rotated VP with them. Unlike this past Klandicar where it spawned, Awakened left it up and when CSG started to mobilize, THEN Awakened came to kill it.

What did you guys do to try and better the server? Nothing, as usual. All you do is try to have some false sense of domination (See TMO/IB for what domination really looks like) when you simply split majority of all targets 50% with us. Domination cannot happen if there's another force taking half your mobs.

tl;dr:

Awakened tries to spin us wanting to make the server better by saying were only doing it to benefit ourselves when in fact this can be 100% proven false by any negotiations I've had in relation to making agreements.

[Detoxx]

Let's see. First topic that I remember discussing with Detoxx was him wanting to lower the allowed number of trackers. This was due to Aftermath (or maybe FA, whatever) did not have the number of willing trackers that Awakened did. So, I am supposed to just cut off my legs to level the playing field? When have you ever done that?

Oh you mean when Rampage and Forsaken had a nice 2 mage per wing agreement and you decided to up it to 2 mages PER TARGET? Silly me, trying to make it so 34 mages (people) didn't have to CoTH to 17 different targets on a 17 year old game.

What was I thinking? That clearly defines which guild is better...

[Joyelle]

you shouldn't have been gating your mages to North.

[Erati]

this thread might get me through the work day - couple more pages

'crosses fingers'

[Detoxx]

you shouldn't have been gating your mages to North.

How did I know this was coming. Not only did we concede 2x each mob for that BUT it was something Rampage/Forsaken used to do every week and because half your mages got banned due to some RMT, you decided you couldn't do it so cried about us doing it (when itd been happening on both sides for months) then stuck 2 mages per target.

I agreed to not do it anymore, conceded 4 mobs for it, proved to you it used to be common practice with Ramp and F/A and you still kept your 34 mages there.

Definitely trying to make the server and raid scene a better place!

[Daldaen]

The thing I can't get over is how many of the people asking for rotations are the ones who had to get brought kicking and screaming into the Class C/R/FFA rotation.

And you're surprised a guild comprised of, as Speedi has said, ex Taken who were consistently told to get good and compete, is a bit confused when other ex IB/Rampage and ex TMO/AM are complaining at them about not wanting to rotate more mobs now?

Maybe if some of you hadn't been so adamant against rotations 2 or 3 or 4 years ago, and had accepted that maybe during 5 year Kunark you could rotate mobs and let people get epics, a precedent would be set to allow everyone to experience Velious content. But no, you wanted to sock Trakanon with 2 full groups ready to engage for entire Windows with 10 people down there, or with corpsed DA Idol stalls or Hoop2Loot.

Don't worry though if they don't go the custom route I'm sure in 2-3 years Rogean will hear the complaints, enforce a Class C / R / FFA rotation and block out ToV, ST and Kael to Class C. Just like was done in Kunark.

[xKoopa]

this thread might get me through the work day - couple more pages

'crosses fingers'

[maskedmelon]

Tell me, how many mobs did CSG get when we were suspended? Oh, zero. Right. How many did they get when you were suspended? Too many to count. And not just shit mobs, nor were they mobs we made a deal with.
We gave them high value, big target mobs. (Yelinak left up for them, Dain, King Tormax, LtK, amongst others).


QFE. There are of course people of differing ambitions in every guild. There are a lot of good folks in Awakened and Aftermath and, there are of course a few turds in each. The fundamental difference though is leadership.

AM leadership has demonstrated that they are not interested in subsidizing unhealthy play styles that unnecessarily devours their people's time when it can be avoided by simple cooperation.

Rampage leadership has done the same and I applaud them for pressing the issue as they have done with VP.

CSG has always supported cooperation as well, they just are largely incapable of 'competing' because they lack a core group of individuals willing and able to devote the resources to secure FTEs.

Awakened really seems to be the only guild to consistently refuse any form of cooperation, whether it's rotations or ordinary raid disputes.

[arsenalpow]

How did I know this was coming. Not only did we concede 2x each mob for that BUT it was something Rampage/Forsaken used to do every week and because half your mages got banned due to some RMT, you decided you couldn't do it so cried about us doing it (when itd been happening on both sides for months) then stuck 2 mages per target.

I agreed to not do it anymore, conceded 4 mobs for it, proved to you it used to be common practice with Ramp and F/A and you still kept your 34 mages there.

Definitely trying to make the server and raid scene a better place!

Make the server a better place and rotate everything, give every single guild a slot.

[icedwards]

How did I know this was coming. Not only did we concede 2x each mob for that BUT it was something Rampage/Forsaken used to do every week and because half your mages got banned due to some RMT, you decided you couldn't do it so cried about us doing it (when itd been happening on both sides for months) then stuck 2 mages per target.

I agreed to not do it anymore, conceded 4 mobs for it, proved to you it used to be common practice with Ramp and F/A and you still kept your 34 mages there.

Definitely trying to make the server and raid scene a better place!

> Loses half of mages to RMT
> Parks 34 mages in ToV

Wut?

[Detoxx]

Make the server a better place and rotate everything, give every single guild a slot.

Only if you promise to not come back...

[arsenalpow]

Only if you promise to not come back...

Deal. Slots for everyone.

[Detoxx]

> Loses half of mages to RMT
> Parks 34 mages in ToV

Wut?

Hyperbole, yes. Obviously there wasnt 34 mages parked in ToV at a time, variance and all.

[Daldaen]

QFE. There are of course people of differing ambitions in every guild. There are a lot of good folks in Awakened and Aftermath and, there are of course a few turds in each. The fundamental difference though is leadership.

AM leadership has demonstrated that they are not interested in subsidizing unhealthy play styles that unnecessarily devours their people's time when it can be avoided by simple cooperation.

Rampage leadership has done the same and I applaud them for pressing the issue as they have done with VP.

CSG has always supported cooperation as well, they just are largely incapable of 'competing' because they lack a core group of individuals willing and able to devote the resources to secure FTEs.

Awakened really seems to be the only guild to consistently refuse any form of cooperation, whether it's rotations or ordinary raid disputes.
I was the one who made the Ring War rotation! Give me some credit!

Rampage leadership were the ones who decided to wake the sleeper and aggro Vulak to snipe a FAT Feshlak after FAT cleared the trash and guards to the dragon.

AM leadership refused to move from the entrance of ToV and continually AEs everyone every kill at the entrance. Also the ones who had the brilliant idea of locking down multiple FTEs in Kael and leaving then telling CSG they were their mobs on that fateful repop. Something so dumb a rule was created the following week to prevent it.

Every guild has their shitty self centered behaviors, let's be honest. Just because they are now in a situation where they feel a rotation is the best course of action doesn't negate the nonsense they've pulled for the past 3-4 years constantly racing to and poopsocking everything.

CSG is consistent, can't really knock them. But saying AM and Rampage/Rustle are guilds who always played right is lolworthy.

[Breaken]

Its possible that some things was exaggerated. But off the top of my head I remember several million platinum, strings, and stoppers

As I said, this platinum amount is exaggerated by at least one 0. The guild owns two Strings. One is on the recharger. We have less than 10 guild Bladestoppers. Most (unsure percentage, may even be 50%.. I don't know) were from Taken. The single most abundant item was Prayers. I only have a list of who holds guild ones, so I don't know which came from where, but we have 17 Guild Prayers.

Again, I am happy for what was given to Awakened in the merge, but isn't that the point of a merge? Most items/platinum was raffled off or given out before Rampage disbanded. These are exact numbers.

Oh, and I am not trying to diminish anything, but yes, as Detoxx pointed out, we have 1 guild bot that I can think of that came from Rampage. The majority were banned due to an ex-Rampage logging them in who had RMT'd. The remaining were taken back by Rustle.

[Gimp]

I was the one who made the Ring War rotation! Give me some credit!

Rampage leadership were the ones who decided to wake the sleeper and aggro Vulak to snipe a FAT Feshlak after FAT cleared the trash and guards to the dragon.

AM leadership refused to move from the entrance of ToV and continually AEs everyone every kill at the entrance. Also the ones who had the brilliant idea of locking down multiple FTEs in Kael and leaving then telling CSG they were their mobs on that fateful repop. Something so dumb a rule was created the following week to prevent it.

Every guild has their shitty self centered behaviors, let's be honest. Just because they are now in a situation where they feel a rotation is the best course of action doesn't negate the nonsense they've pulled for the past 3-4 years constantly racing to and poopsocking everything.

CSG is consistent, can't really knock them. But saying AM and Rampage/Rustle are guilds who always played right is lolworthy.

Go talk to the leadership of every guild on this server and ask them who is continually the worst to deal with in every aspect.

Their answer will universally be Awakened. That clown car of leadership is the biggest joke on this server.

[khanable]

I was the one who made the Ring War rotation! Give me some credit!

Rampage leadership were the ones who decided to wake the sleeper and aggro Vulak to snipe a FAT Feshlak after FAT cleared the trash and guards to the dragon.

AM leadership refused to move from the entrance of ToV and continually AEs everyone every kill at the entrance. Also the ones who had the brilliant idea of locking down multiple FTEs in Kael and leaving then telling CSG they were their mobs on that fateful repop. Something so dumb a rule was created the following week to prevent it.

Every guild has their shitty self centered behaviors, let's be honest. Just because they are now in a situation where they feel a rotation is the best course of action doesn't negate the nonsense they've pulled for the past 3-4 years constantly racing to and poopsocking everything.

CSG is consistent, can't really knock them. But saying AM and Rampage/Rustle are guilds who always played right is lolworthy.

Every guild has their moment or two of bad calls and moves, but taken has consistently been giant cunts

[icedwards]

Hyperbole, yes. Obviously there wasnt 34 mages parked in ToV at a time, variance and all.

Fair. I just think it's unreasonable to point fingers at Awakened over the coth mage escalation when it was obviously a response to FA gating their mage to doubles, triples etc while each guild had their "allotted 2" watching Vulak (concessions included). It's especially laughable now that it's been replaced with foot races.

I'm new to the server, less than two years in. I still know all the horror stories behind TMO/IB lock down of content, the C/R/FFA breakdown and whatever other silly drama that's plagued this 20 year old elf sim emu. It's not exactly surprising that there's bad blood keeping the top guilds from cooperating.

All this over Hosh staffs too...

[arsenalpow]

Everyone guild has their moment or two of bad calls and moves, but taken has consistently been giant cunts

Moreso than TMO and it's current iterations? You're high bruh. You suffered through that shit in BDA then had to deal with Detoxx while in Rampage. Don't be a prisoner of the moment dummy.

[khanable]

I've consistently been against Takens bullshit, not sure what you're talking about. The only "suffering" I did in BDA was dealing with Takens horseshit and watching their leaders argue each other in the R forums.

The BDA I was in wasn't impacted much by TMO since we simply didn't compete against them. I'm sure there was a time before that where it may have been insufferable, but TMO wasn't even on the radar when I was around.

And yes: I dealt with detoxx's walls of text plenty of times. And I think it's really telling that he's being the reasonable one in all of this.

[Erati]

Their answer will universally be Awakened. That clown car of leadership is the biggest joke on this server.

You do realize that clown cars are pretty freaking amazing and full of surprises right?

I mean watch this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESa4tVAf_gY

How do they fit so many people in there? Also it's 'jokes' that are what keep us alive as people! I for one am proud to be considered as special as a clown car and akin to to something as wonderful as making people smile!

edit: Cucumbers is right in that he consistently hated Taken Os in the Class R Rotation forums. I think we were the reason he bowed out of that sub forum. To be fair though, there was a whole lot of crazy in those threads so its hard to point fingers solely in one direction but it was unfair we had so many officers who would post there muddling things.

[Detoxx]

Fair. I just think it's unreasonable to point fingers at Awakened over the coth mage escalation when it was obviously a response to FA gating their mage to doubles, triples etc while each guild had their "allotted 2" watching Vulak (concessions included). It's especially laughable now that it's been replaced with foot races.

I'm new to the server, less than two years in. I still know all the horror stories behind TMO/IB lock down of content, the C/R/FFA breakdown and whatever other silly drama that's plagued this 20 year old elf sim emu. It's not exactly surprising that there's bad blood keeping the top guilds from cooperating.

All this over Hosh staffs too...

How did I know this was coming. Not only did we concede 2x each mob for that BUT it was something Rampage/Forsaken used to do every week and because half your mages got banned due to some RMT, you decided you couldn't do it so cried about us doing it (when itd been happening on both sides for months) then stuck 2 mages per target.

I agreed to not do it anymore, conceded 4 mobs for it, proved to you it used to be common practice with Ramp and F/A and you still kept your 34 mages there.

Definitely trying to make the server and raid scene a better place!

[icedwards]

And now we're just going in circles...

[mefdinkins]

Deal. Slots for everyone.

BDA will return once Phinny progresses past the xpacs everyone loved. At that point Chest will destroy Rustle by recruiting their strongest players like Nibblewitz, Valse, Mudson and Djones.

Then two of the most ferocious gnome wizards in all of Norrath, Nibble and I, will broker the game changing Ak'Anon-Veeshan Mutual Defense Treaty between Awakened and Bregan D`aerth 2.0 in which the guilds will crush Velious and and also defend Ak'anon against invaders. BDA will change into a DKP system but only DKP will be awarded for guarding King Ak'Anon. The rest will still be a loot council slash American Idol (the Voice) competition where players sing in vent and the best performance gets the upgrade.

Awakened will continue to dominate and Cabillis will recognize our success in Ak'anon and decide to hire Awakened for personal defense and the guild will then protect Ak'anon and Cabillis. Leading to all the servers top gnomes and iksars apping. The influx of gnomes and iksars will lead to an unprecedented period of dominance of P99 until every character becomes Tron'ed and gets sucked into their computer.

The unrivaled success of the Iksar-Gnome dominated Awakened will make all human toons hella jelly. Players like Snackums, Chest, and Hoku will use their DE masks to try to hide their lame human char choice but it won't be enough. Soon all human characters will do a million man march across Thurgadin to protest the social conditions facing humans in P99. This will lead to widespread change and all guilds will merge and all players will wipe at every encounter from desyncing. After all the desyncing players will realize that Mobs are people too and that we should no longer kill them. Baking skill will become the most valued commodity on P99 because we're all vegan now. The server will now only participate in peace talks and Diabetes Awareness 5K's around Greater Faydark.

The success and cooperation of the entire player base will push P99 into the national spot light and our fearless leaders and the P99 Staff will be given 6 million dollar signing bonuses to lead companies like EA and Sony and Riot Games and Blizzard entertainment and they will revolutionize gaming and make America the gaming mecca it deserves to be.

Seriously, I'm calling it now.

[Joyelle]

By the way, since we're talking about breaking rotations and all, let's talk about Djones going into the wiki and changing Awakened's established Sky day (Thursday PM) to Rustle without even attempting to negotiate a change with Awakened's officers.

Trying to change the raid scene for the better and all, right?

[Lanuven]

And now we're just going in circles...

Thats the whole point of this thread.

GuildA: We want to rotate mobs!
GuildB: We dont. We like to compete for VP loot.
GuildA: You're greedy, fuck VP loot.
GuildB: Ok, so don't ask for a rotation if "Fuck VP loot"

GuildA: The raid scene is shitty because of you!
GuildB: And when it was you on top last year what did you keep doing?
GuildA: That's beside the point. It's now and it's your fault.

This server isn't the joke, its these forums. Nothing gets solved on P99 forums and history proves that. Keep QQ'ing here so we have something to laugh at while at work though.

[Freakish]

I remember when rustle took the coth bots back. It was because awakened was being dicks and decided to batphone a vindi that rustle wiped to and the leadership was seriously worried that rustle was a threat so they contested it. Keg then took all the bots back.


Don't be dicks and you'd still have the coth bots.

[Daldaen]

Go talk to the leadership of every guild on this server and ask them who is continually the worst to deal with in every aspect.

Their answer will universally be Awakened. That clown car of leadership is the biggest joke on this server.

Eh I think every guild would talk about their era person. I'm sure Getsome and Zeelot had fun together. I'm sure Hokushin and Detoxx had fun together. And I'm sure Breaken and Detoxx will continue having fun together. Tough to compare across all eras though. Right now, I'm sure people don't like working with Awakened cause they aren't telling them what they want to hear.

You post about how much of a joke Awakened's leadership is almost as much as I talk about bug posts and Luclin/PoP being sweet expansions. Dunno where your passion comes from but I don't really see it. They seem to be running an effective guild and I haven't been an officer for quite a few months so they're doing it without me messing up the place apparently.

At this point their stance seems to be they don't want to rotate more than was rotated in the past. Which is a pretty consistent stance for every guild that's come before them. Rampage wouldn't have rotated anything after they got their server firsts and continued to refuse to rotate mobs until they left the server. Just like TMO, IB, TR, FE, DA, and whatever other guilds I'm forgetting that were killing Kunark content refused to rotate it. So why the hate?

Aside from your clinging to how trashy Awakened leadership is, I feel like we've had some decent post conversations on these forums before Gimp. I'm a pretty reasonable guy I think. It's really not a new situation that's happening here. Just the shoes are on reverse. And people are finding that unpleasant.

[Daldaen]

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpT8BVtsAK-2lB6RQQiKarvGw82c52PDx

Just gonna quote that again.

All of you need to remember why you're here.

[Detoxx]

Eh I think every guild would talk about their era person. I'm sure Getsome and Zeelot had fun together. I'm sure Hokushin and Detoxx had fun together. And I'm sure Breaken and Detoxx will continue having fun together. Tough to compare across all eras though. Right now, I'm sure people don't like working with Awakened cause they aren't telling them what they want to hear.

You post about how much of a joke Awakened's leadership is almost as much as I talk about bug posts and Luclin/PoP being sweet expansions. Dunno where your passion comes from but I don't really see it. They seem to be running an effective guild and I haven't been an officer for quite a few months so they're doing it without me messing up the place apparently.

At this point their stance seems to be they don't want to rotate more than was rotated in the past. Which is a pretty consistent stance for every guild that's come before them. Rampage wouldn't have rotated anything after they got their server firsts and continued to refuse to rotate mobs until they left the server. Just like TMO, IB, TR, FE, DA, and whatever other guilds I'm forgetting that were killing Kunark content refused to rotate it. So why the hate?

Aside from your clinging to how trashy Awakened leadership is, I feel like we've had some decent post conversations on these forums before Gimp. I'm a pretty reasonable guy I think. It's really not a new situation that's happening here. Just the shoes are on reverse. And people are finding that unpleasant.

There is a big difference between rotating 16 mobs, 6 of which were bottlenecked, effectively meaning youd b e rotating 10 mobs than 35+. Also, you guys in Awakened seem to thing you're this big powerhouse like the old TMO / IB were. Those guilds were so strong and dominant they had no reason to do anything until other guilds showed them they could actually be a threat.

You lose mobs to a few different guilds on a weekly basis. As do we. There is no dominant guild anymore, its impossible in velious.

Take a step back and realize that this server is at its end and try to share a little, no?

[bktroost]

Take a step back and realize that this server is at its end and try to share a little, no?

...wisdom. Stop crushing all the rose bushes on the way to the flower shop. There is no reason to race for this gear...there is nothing you need to gear to kill.

btw the rose bushes in this metaphor are your families that you are neglecting to stare at someone else's skype screen.

[Shoneys]

try to share a little

Bend the knee

[arsenalpow]

Yes, try to share now that the timeline is over but for the other 5 years fuck you git gud. Flip flopping garbage.

[Legday]

Fair. I just think it's unreasonable to point fingers at Awakened over the coth mage escalation when it was obviously a response to FA gating their mage to doubles, triples etc while each guild had their "allotted 2" watching Vulak (concessions included).

This is funny.

[Daldaen]

Dunno why the server being at its end is really relevant to be honest. Rampage didn't need the gear to clear Velious, Kunark raid gear is mostly junk, just a few neat clickies.

Eh rotating 16 mobs versus the Velious mobs I can sort of see that being a point one could make. But there are plenty of mobs left up unmolested by the guilds who race in ToV every week. They're just not all that exciting to some like Velketor, Lord Bob, Wuoshi, Kelorek, Tal/Gore/Sev/Fay, Sontalak, Vindi. Maybe even Trakanon, VS, West ToV, Klandicar, Ikatiar, Sevalak, and Fear golems on occasion, I dunno anymore. So I would agree to some extent.

I think an equal point to be made is that guilds have some outlet of raid targets to hit. Whereas back then even Maestro was tracked and instantly ported up for during the majority of Kunark. Guilds could only do planar clears, Chardok royals and that's about it. Doing that with no other targets for years would've gotten lame. Would you not agree here?

I'm all for sharing, but I'm not in a position to negotiate. I still dream of a P99 where you can schedule a raid at hour X, plan to raid for 2-3 hours and slay some dragons. But that's not a server P99 has ever been and the powers that be aren't interested in that unfortunately. Nor am I going to be able to convince them of that as I'm a huge minority. The majority of awakened enjoys competition in some style, and a fraction of them actually do that competing via racing. Never been my style and I won't ever understand it, but like the many guilds before them on this server, I suppose that's their right to do until Rogean says otherwise.

So I took my ball, and went off to another server to enjoy Luclin and PoP! I just float around here for the ForumQuest and randomly people request my assistance for various P99 related quests and occasionally raid mobs that require all hands on deck like Tunare or AoW.

[arsenalpow]

Just split each cycle. Half the mobs one week are to be raced for, half to be rotated. Repops are full races. Periodically shuffle the mobs so it's not always the same crap. One hour to engage your rotated mob or it goes FFA.

Maybe if everyone played nice papa Rogean would reduce variance in account a the server first agreement.

[Detoxx]

Yes, try to share now that the timeline is over but for the other 5 years fuck you git gud. Flip flopping garbage.
Why are you here contributing nothing to a conversation you have no stake in? Go home to instances and let the big boys talk.

[Daldaen]

Why are you here contributing nothing to a conversation you have no stake in? Go home to instances and let the big boys talk.

I don't get why you still are using instances as an insult here lol.

That's exactly what you're proposing. Sharing the content is allowing people to essentially instance it?

[Naxi]

Guild Leader Breaken's walls of texts are hilarious to me. Are they approved guild statements by the official democratic process?

Awakaned has some really salty dick people. To suggest your guild has the right amount of pride is an advanced level of stupidity, next to people thinking competition in an uneven manner is really a competition. Rustle can compete with other guilds and still be friendly and do things together. You guys are sour the majority of the time and think people dislike you because everyone is jealous.

I wonder if I've awarded more DKP to the Rustle's Rustle Bonus DKP program than DKP has been subtracted in Awakened for their RNF policy. It should be zero-sum, but Awakened's lack of punishment is ruining my immersion of our bonus DKP program. Now its just a DKP inflation program, which Awakened is good at.

[arsenalpow]

Why are you here contributing nothing to a conversation you have no stake in? Go home to instances and let the big boys talk.

Thats exactly why I should be mediating this shit, I have no stake. Agree to some binding arbitration and make p99 great again.

[Jaxon]

You lose mobs to a few different guilds on a weekly basis...

There is no dominant guild anymore, its impossible...

...try to share a little, no?
Could you talk me through your reasoning here? Awakened loses mobs to a few different guilds on a weekly basis and there is no dominant guild in Velious, but Awakened should share a little?

[icedwards]

This is funny.

And this is why our guilds don't play nice with one another. Each side believes they've been wronged multiple times, each side refuses to cooperate, CSG gets caught in the middle.

[Detoxx]

Thats exactly why I should be mediating this shit, I have no stake. Agree to some binding arbitration and make p99 great again.

I'd agree with you if you didnt still have immense butthurt and bias from 4 years ago and a guild that no longer exists.
All of which you overwhelmingly still show.

[arsenalpow]

I'd agree with you if you didnt still have immense butthurt and bias from 4 years ago and a guild that no longer exists.

I don't have a bias, I'm just calling you out when you flip flop. You refused to share anything for 5 years and were a proponent of a raid style that made the raid scene toxic as fuck to the point where CSG a year into Velious is just now killing their first couple VP dragons only after multiple guilds left the server, others merged, and a rotation was offered.

If you truly want to play this new server hero role I'm more than happy to play mediator because you are correct that the timeline is over and everyone should be able to see content. Not a few select things, EVERYTHING.

[Detoxx]

I don't have a bias, I'm just calling you out when you flip flop. You refused to share anything for 5 years and were a proponent of a raid style that made the raid scene toxic as fuck to the point where CSG a year into Velious is just now killing their first couple VP dragons only after multiple guilds left the server, others merged, and a rotation was offered.

If you truly want to play this new server hero role I'm more than happy to play mediator because you are correct that the timeline is over and everyone should be able to see content. Not a few select things, EVERYTHING.

I wasnt the leader of the guild nor an officer in those 5 years. Try again.

[Alarti0001]

I don't have a bias,

Stopped here. If you start with a lie what else will follow?

[Ella`Ella]

everyone should be able to see content. Not a few select things, EVERYTHING.

No one deserves anything in Everquest - earn it, you casual filth.

[Rokzor]

If competition is such a big deal (which I can understand for some), but holding back a rotation. Why don't we throw in one or two FFA's in between a rotation cycle?

[Pokesan]

claiming neutrality towards TMO is easily the most delusional chest delusion ive seen

[arsenalpow]

Where's the bias? Detoxx wants to rotate everything and save the server. I'm on board. Let's make this happen.

[khanable]

I don't think anyone was talking about rotating the whole server

[Erati]

I would attend a 3 hr Chest mediated Guild Leaders Skype chat for the good of server.

I would even mute my plugdj to listen!

[Daldaen]

If the nerd summit isn't 6 hours atleast, you didn't put in your best effort.

[arsenalpow]

I don't think anyone was talking about rotating the whole server

Why not? The timeline has ended, you can rotate half the mobs one week and race the other half. Everyone gets to see all the content, A/A don't have to burn themselves out and they can get a taste of racing as it suites them.

It's an absolute win/win for the server. Detoxx said he wants to make the server a better place.

[khanable]

Detoxx has a learning disability tho

[arsenalpow]

Detoxx has a learning disability tho

I work for the federal government. I'm used to working with people completely unqualified for a task.

[skarlorn]

BDA will return once Phinny progresses past the xpacs everyone loved. At that point Chest will destroy Rustle by recruiting their strongest players like Nibblewitz, Valse, Mudson and Djones.

Then two of the most ferocious gnome wizards in all of Norrath, Nibble and I, will broker the game changing Ak'Anon-Veeshan Mutual Defense Treaty between Awakened and Bregan D`aerth 2.0 in which the guilds will crush Velious and and also defend Ak'anon against invaders. BDA will change into a DKP system but only DKP will be awarded for guarding King Ak'Anon. The rest will still be a loot council slash American Idol (the Voice) competition where players sing in vent and the best performance gets the upgrade.

Awakened will continue to dominate and Cabillis will recognize our success in Ak'anon and decide to hire Awakened for personal defense and the guild will then protect Ak'anon and Cabillis. Leading to all the servers top gnomes and iksars apping. The influx of gnomes and iksars will lead to an unprecedented period of dominance of P99 until every character becomes Tron'ed and gets sucked into their computer.

The unrivaled success of the Iksar-Gnome dominated Awakened will make all human toons hella jelly. Players like Snackums, Chest, and Hoku will use their DE masks to try to hide their lame human char choice but it won't be enough. Soon all human characters will do a million man march across Thurgadin to protest the social conditions facing humans in P99. This will lead to widespread change and all guilds will merge and all players will wipe at every encounter from desyncing. After all the desyncing players will realize that Mobs are people too and that we should no longer kill them. Baking skill will become the most valued commodity on P99 because we're all vegan now. The server will now only participate in peace talks and Diabetes Awareness 5K's around Greater Faydark.

The success and cooperation of the entire player base will push P99 into the national spot light and our fearless leaders and the P99 Staff will be given 6 million dollar signing bonuses to lead companies like EA and Sony and Riot Games and Blizzard entertainment and they will revolutionize gaming and make America the gaming mecca it deserves to be.

Seriously, I'm calling it now.

This is a terrific post amid a throng of angry nerds. Glad I stopped reading after it.

[kotton05]

Stopped here. If you start with a lie what else will follow?

/thread

[kotton05]

If the nerd summit isn't 6 hours atleast, you didn't put in your best effort.

is that a zone inside sleepers?

[kotton05]

One thing I could add is, if you want to bring any rotation back, I suggest fixing the damage that was done. That means giving Awakened their VP that was taken from them, and giving Aftermath their Ring War that was taken from them. And possibly one on top for the hassle.

But you act like VP has anything to do with Ring war rotations... What extreme damage was done? Fixing briscoe butthurt from kerbey getting PD robe on his 56 war? Come on, the fact you mouth breath VP is a shame, the least you could do is realize both those events do not correlate with each other.

Im sorry the Taken part of Awakened never got to farm the end game content being Class-R babies that couldn't.

[radda]

Great zinger pal :o

Really hope you feel less retarded soon.

Lawls, keep it coming.
Try more

[Erati]

Kluwen you came from Asgard and you are talking ab end game content experience?

inb4 Class C veterans, tried and true rah rah

Asgard had zero VP kills until they allied w Taken in VP. Sorry to be Debbie Downer, I only speak facts.

[kotton05]

Kluwen you came from Asgard and you are talking ab end game content experience?

inb4 Class C veterans, tried and true rah rah

Asgard had zero VP kills until they allied w Taken in VP. Sorry to be Debbie Downer, I only speak facts.

lets keep class-r fights to class-r now now.

[Legday]

Kluwen you came from Asgard and you are talking ab end game content experience?

inb4 Class C veterans, tried and true rah rah

Asgard had zero VP kills until they allied w Taken in VP. Sorry to be Debbie Downer, I only speak facts.

Asgard had allied with Forsaken in VP long before we did with Taken, and contrary to popular belief, we killed a few dragons here and there.

[Erati]

lets keep class-r fights to class-r now now.

Merkk, you were not around. Velious released and Class R/C did not matter. Guilds were just the name that came between < >.

BDA was dominating VP, Taken and Asgard had similar numbers that we pulled there so we allied and did very well for one another. The alliance was ( and still is ) one of my favorite times co-raiding, and it wasnt about the loot but rather the adventure of getting into VP and doing it.

Was very sad that it went away, but it did lead us into the direction of FAT having worked with Asgard for that time.

So thats why I find it funny that Kluwen of Asgard decides he should talk down to a guild that is solely responsible for his first VP kills as Asgard ever.

[Erati]

Asgard had allied with Forsaken in VP long before we did with Taken, and contrary to popular belief, we killed a few dragons here and there.

Sure maybe yourself, Innie and a select few attended a VP raid that Forsaken was trying to contest Rampage on.

You guys had no official alliance with Forsaken in the Peak and most of Asgard VP's success was thanks to the very guild you guys enjoy talking down on.

[Erati]

Im most definitely former Asgard and experienced what it was like to try to compete against the top end guilds which is why I'm in a perfect position now as an Officer in Aftermath to try to make this raid scene better for everyone. Unlike Taken I haven't forgotten my roots.

Yet you avoided everything I brought up and gave no mention of what I said hehe

Spinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Erati]

for the memories

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2066532&postcount=44

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2081642&postcount=69

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2088840&postcount=72

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2088874&postcount=73

this one is my fav ^

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2094612&postcount=85

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2094690&postcount=87

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2095093&postcount=89


Perception and reality - you can act like we were a speck on your shoe but just look at your own guild history :)

[Legday]

The TMO/Asgard/Forsaken roots run deep. Which is why Asgard and Forsaken held a near 50/50 alliance for something like 5 months of the most competitive ToV scene this server will ever see. People like to play down Asgard's contributions but we pulled similar numbers, maybe Forsaken averaging 5-10 more heads, and Asgard had 10-15 strong tracking/mage/FTEing contributors to a similar number of Forsaken, maybe they had 15-20? As close to 50/50 of an alliance as the server has ever had to my knowledge.

I only bring up that 5 month stretch because it's an interesting comparison showcase of where Aftermath came from versus where we know Awakened to have come from....

A pixel package offered from Rampage to Taken just weeks before Rampage would wake the sleeper. Followed immediately by 90% of the real Rampage leaving the raid scene and Awakened being created with a namesake that Taken didn't earn, by Taken players that had just recently shown up.

^This is why ppl don't like the smugness.

[Erati]

, by Taken players that had just recently shown up.

with all due respect, just take a gander at your forum creation date compared to mine....

[RedXIII]

No one deserves anything in Everquest - earn it, you casual filth.

Finally you said something worth it. =D

Thats it. Follow server rules, compete, and win/lose with dignity.

Rustle proved on AoW FTE that they can do it.
CSG proved that they can do it FTE'ing KT like 2 weeks in a row? good stuff.

See you guys friday for more fun competition, or there is always the option to go phinny with Chest and others (not a bad idea if thats ur thing).

[Shoneys]

U mad

[Legday]

with all due respect, just take a gander at your forum creation date compared to mine....

Not sure how that's relevant to what I said.

Besides, this forum account is one I created after I had been on the server for awhile. There is no Legday account with toons on it.

[Erati]

Not sure how that's relevant to what I said.

Besides, this forum account is one I created after I had been on the server for awhile. There is no Legday account with toons on it.

I dont follow your logic in your post and for no reason you mentioned players that had 'recently' showed up.

I have been here forever and a large cog in the guild so I am not sure what you are referring to which makes sense since many posts here are way off base :)

[Legday]

many posts here are way off base :)

Fair point.

Recently shown up was in reference to you guys having just joined up with Rampage versus FA.

[Erati]

Fair point.

Recently shown up was in reference to you guys having just joined up with Rampage versus FA.

except we were killing Velious targets with FAT for around 2 month give or take before we went with Rampage.

but I guess we were also a burden then too and that time period doesnt count in your narrative !

( Taken also the only solo entity not named Forsaken or Rampage to kill the Statue of Rallos Zek on a non-repop :P )

[Cecily]

Could we get Happyhealz' opinion on his guildmates (including leadership) openly RnFing with no consequence after he took a 450ish DKP hit for defending himself and his guild on the forums? The community wants to know how that feels.

[Legday]

except we were killing Velious targets with FAT for around 2 month give or take before we went with Rampage.

but I guess we were also a burden then too and that time period doesnt count in your narrative !

( Taken also the only solo entity not named Forsaken or Rampage to kill the Statue of Rallos Zek on a non-repop :P )

Again, I'm talking about where Awakened came from being Rampage success and waking the sleeper and then taking their ally of a matter of weeks and handing them the keys to the kingdom. Taken just showing up.

I know you guys were in the thick of things outside of ToV on the other side of the fence for awhile. We had fun :)

[Legday]

I know you guys were in the thick of things outside of ToV on the other side of the fence for awhile. We had fun :)

Hell, Gorruk got a statue BP, AoW helm, AoW ring and AoW bow in like a 3 week span, no?

[getsome]

By the way, since we're talking about breaking rotations and all, let's talk about Djones going into the wiki and changing Awakened's established Sky day (Thursday PM) to Rustle without even attempting to negotiate a change with Awakened's officers.

Trying to change the raid scene for the better and all, right?


Rustle has been doing Sky on Thursday nights for over a month and have yet to see any awakened in zone. Why negotiate for a position that you are not using? After 30 days of doing sky we just updated the wiki to reflect the current state of affairs.

[Djones]

By the way, since we're talking about breaking rotations and all, let's talk about Djones going into the wiki and changing Awakened's established Sky day (Thursday PM) to Rustle without even attempting to negotiate a change with Awakened's officers.

Trying to change the raid scene for the better and all, right?

If this was a problem. How come Awakened was not up there on Thursday night? Are they trying to monopolize pixels without even killing them.

[Pokesan]

Finally you said something worth it. =D

Thats it. Follow server rules, compete, and win/lose with dignity.

Rustle proved on AoW FTE that they can do it.
CSG proved that they can do it FTE'ing KT like 2 weeks in a row? good stuff.

See you guys friday for more fun competition, or there is always the option to go phinny with Chest and others (not a bad idea if thats ur thing).



okay but if awakened loves competition so much, why are they crying so hard about losing their VP welfare pixels?

[Jonabis]

But you act like VP has anything to do with Ring war rotations... What extreme damage was done? Fixing briscoe butthurt from kerbey getting PD robe on his 56 war? Come on, the fact you mouth breath VP is a shame, the least you could do is realize both those events do not correlate with each other.

Im sorry the Taken part of Awakened never got to farm the end game content being Class-R babies that couldn't.

The class R mindset would be pro casual / rotation, would it not? You guys and your blanket statements for guilds are hilarious. Every guild has personalities all over the board. Most people on this server are very cordial. Unfortunately the greedy ass holes tend to taint the image of the whole.

It seems very obvious that a rotation / ffa alternation is the best thing for the majority of the server, but as the past has proven in the past the neckbeards that perpetuate the fucked up raid scene here will always find a way to ruin the enjoyment of nostalgia quest for everyone else with a casual gaming mindset.

My suggestion is all of you "competitive" people go to red and enjoy rubbing your e-penii together until the end of time. Leave blue a place for casual filth to enjoy the game in a healthy manor that doesn't impede ones ability to be a productive member of society.

[Erati]

Hell, Gorruk got a statue BP, AoW helm, AoW ring and AoW bow in like a 3 week span, no?

Gorruk saved every penny of DKP for Velious haha cheap bastard. I remember a Statue/AoW kill that bc of crappy dice rolls we got 0 loot from both mobs heh, lets not bring up the pixels!

( Statue BP was from a solo kill :D )

[Nitsude]

Oh trust me I don't think you're wrong haha. I think for a lot of people it's just the overwhelming thought of starting over on a new server that keeps them here.

Disagree. If Phinny were a carbon copy of p99, but with instances, I would heavily consider playing there instead. The biggest turn off for me is pay to win, kronos, and heavy changes in aesthetics.

[khanable]

I hope y'all realize Raev is masturbating and aiming for his own mouth because he made another thread that went full retard

[xKoopa]

Phinny is so non classic that when my ogre zoned into innothule i got triggered off the server(ec/fp triggered me super hard too)

[Erati]

If this was a problem. How come Awakened was not up there on Thursday night? Are they trying to monopolize pixels without even killing them.

Usually its the guilds seeking a slot who are responsible to inform the slot holders leadership they are interested in their piece of Sky time.

We do not raid sky weekly but always kept the slot reserved to keep necros/warriors/mages happy with epic pieces. I dont think we would have had an issue with you guys doing Sky on Thursdays so long as we could coordinate 1 Thursday each month to clear some stuff, its just the fact that no one was approached and the WIKI was ninja updated that seemed off base.

I mean you are being aggressive even in your response lol We had that spot for several years and would have gladly shared it. I suppose this will get twisted though.

[kotton05]

The class R mindset would be pro casual / rotation, would it not? You guys and your blanket statements for guilds are hilarious. Every guild has personalities all over the board. Most people on this server are very cordial. Unfortunately the greedy ass holes tend to taint the image of the whole.

It seems very obvious that a rotation / ffa alternation is the best thing for the majority of the server, but as the past has proven in the past the neckbeards that perpetuate the fucked up raid scene here will always find a way to ruin the enjoyment of nostalgia quest for everyone else with a casual gaming mindset.

My suggestion is all of you "competitive" people go to red and enjoy rubbing your e-penii together until the end of time. Leave blue a place for casual filth to enjoy the game in a healthy manor that doesn't impede ones ability to be a productive member of society.

its never been a better time to be a casual tho....

[khanable]

Would you have polled the guild to see if anyone was offended by sharing the sky slot?

[getsome]

Usually its the guilds seeking a slot who are responsible to inform the slot holders leadership they are interested in their piece of Sky time.

We do not raid sky weekly but always kept the slot reserved to keep necros/warriors/mages happy with epic pieces. I dont think we would have had an issue with you guys doing Sky on Thursdays so long as we could coordinate 1 Thursday each month to clear some stuff, its just the fact that no one was approached and the WIKI was ninja updated that seemed off base.

I mean you are being aggressive even in your response lol We had that spot for several years and would have gladly shared it. I suppose this will get twisted though.

Sounds very entitled that you think you can reserve a slot and not kill it. As we been been actively raiding sky for the past 30+ days on Thursday night, if you need to slide into Sky for an epic piece, let me know I may be able to work something out.

Awakened has been a guild for less than a year, so I do not see how you had that night for so long.

[Freakish]

You're being unreasonable Getsome. It's a full sky schedule. Just because they don't use their premium, prime time slot doesn't mean you can come in and use it.

[Shoneys]

I'm pretty sure if you don't use it you lose it. Errr wait I might be quoting 40 Year Old Virgin.

Sorta like doing pog on your ring war day.

[Detoxx]

I hope y'all realize Raev is masturbating and aiming for his own mouth because he made another thread that went full retard

Qft

[Detoxx]

Usually its the guilds seeking a slot who are responsible to inform the slot holders leadership they are interested in their piece of Sky time.

We do not raid sky weekly but always kept the slot reserved to keep necros/warriors/mages happy with epic pieces. I dont think we would have had an issue with you guys doing Sky on Thursdays so long as we could coordinate 1 Thursday each month to clear some stuff, its just the fact that no one was approached and the WIKI was ninja updated that seemed off base.

I mean you are being aggressive even in your response lol We had that spot for several years and would have gladly shared it. I suppose this will get twisted though.

More greed showing...

"Hey we don't need or use this slot BUT you better damn well come ask us of you can use it!"

Come on man I know you're better than this

[kotton05]

omg^ best chuckle yet

[skarlorn]

incredible that the same losers still get upset abut the same raid scene

http://i.imgur.com/YbihXAO.jpg
^ pic is a result of me google image searching permamad neckbeard virgins. literally 1st page result. fucking CRINGE.

hoping this isn't his real FACE cause i want this post to LIVE

[Detoxx]

Sorta like doing pog on your ring war day.

Don't worry, I won't make the mistake of trying to benefit your guild and mine by keeping tunare on the weekend.

Did I post the response I got for this? Oh yea something along the lines of:

GET REKT YOU FUCK FACE PIECE OF SHIT LEADER

Yea, lesson learned.

[Kodim]

Sky once a month is not enough to hold an entire slot by yourself.

Stop being idiots.

[Detoxx]

If you're gonna quote someone quote them properly... He said we do sky once a month don't leave out info and try and make him sound a way he wasn't.

Oh please forgive me. How dare I misrepresent what he meant. Let me give it another try

"We're awakened, we have people who might or might not at some point somewhere down the line in the not so distant but distant future could possibly someday maybe need to possibly go to sky so we lay claim to an entire day that we might or might not, in the not so distant but distant futute possibly might need maybe. If you want to use it, we'll run a guild wide poll 30 days from now and not come back with an answer then get mad you used our day that we don't really need but might someday down the line in the not so distant future."

[kotton05]

Oh please forgive me. How dare I misrepresent what he meant. Let me give it another try

"We're awakened, we have people who might or might not at some point somewhere down the line in the not so distant but distant future could possibly someday maybe need to possibly go to sky so we lay claim to an entire day that we might or might not, in the not so distant but distant futute possibly might need maybe. If you want to use it, we'll run a guild wide poll 30 days from now and not come back with an answer the get mad you used our day."

In a server far far away......

[fan D]

lets just get one thing straight here

absolutely no one is playing and raiding here because of the "competition". If you think you enjoy raiding because of the "competition" you need to have your head examined because you have serious mental health issues. That, or you are just a sick individual. Be honest with yourself, think a bit, because no one actually want's the "competition" or another guild fucking with their pixels.

[Detoxx]

If you go back and actually read his post it says we would more then likely be ok with giving up our spot if we could work something out to go up every now and then for a specific piece. No one has ever contacted us about it or asked tho! You and other just ignore that entire part of his post because it does not fit into all the grandstanding being done in this thread.

Carry on.

I'm glad you more than likely would be willing to sacrifice your unused sky slot. Very noble.

[MilanderTruewield]

"We're awakened, we have people who might or might not at some point somewhere down the line in the not so distant but distant future could possibly someday maybe need to possibly go to sky so we lay claim to an entire day that we might or might not, in the not so distant but distant futute possibly might need maybe. If you want to use it, we'll run a guild wide poll 30 days from now and not come back with an answer then get mad you used our day that we don't really need but might someday down the line in the not so distant future."

ROFL. This is signature-worthy.

[kotton05]

was that last line a double pun?

[Detoxx]

That's all you guys do on here... twist words and troll people and try and make peoples image look bad cause what else is there to do when your kill lists get smaller and smaller every week.

Its rather pathetic.

There it is!

#killlistsareallthatmatters
#divinitybandwagon
#iwaswrongithoughtitdbekagey
#bdabandwagon

[skarlorn]

Heads up to Awakened: <Auld Lang Syne> is a hardcore classic leveling guild currently progressing through dungeons like runnyeye and sol a. We will need a slot in Vox/Naggy/Ragefire rotations in about six months time. Consider yourselves warned. Start making plans so that you guys don't implode when outdated content goes to people who need it.

[Erati]

Saying we dont raid sky and only planned going once or so a month on Thursday eve was hardly anything remotely greedy lol

I also did not post any negatives ab Rustle chosing that day other than they didnt bother to give a heads up, they simply took it.

This thread....

[Detoxx]

Heads up to Awakened: <Auld Lang Syne> is a hardcore classic leveling guild currently progressing through dungeons like runnyeye and sol a. We will need a slot in Vox/Naggy/Ragefire rotations in about six months time. Consider yourselves warned. Start making plans so that you guys don't implode when outdated content goes to people who need it.

All things aside, this is the first post that made me lol. Pras.

[AzzarTheGod]

ther u go big boss *massages Detoxx shoulders*

[William_Munny15]

Raiding in VP with CSG and Rustle I got a hosh stick being the most scummiest casual there is! Lesson here is come app to the casual's like AG , Omni , Europa or Rustle I think! Hosh sticks and I don't lose sleep or have to pretend I can play from "work" =)

[Jaxon]

All things aside, this is the first post that made me lol. Pras.
The only thing that could make it funnier is it hear it coming from a guild whose players farmed VP non-stop for 5 years.

Oh wait that actually happened.

[derpcake]

really thought this thread would be about a rotation for rants and flames forum

[nyclin]

don't stop now guys, still have 3 hours at work

[fan D]

with all due respect, just take a gander at your forum creation date compared to mine....

alot of us been here since '09 , but if you havent had atleast one forum account suspended or banned in all that time you are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong

[kotton05]

alot of us been here since '09 , but if you havent had atleast one forum account suspended or banned in all that time you are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong

Bouncerr5.0 my lord and forum savior

[skarlorn]

alot of us been here since '09 , but if you havent had atleast one forum account suspended or banned in all that time you are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong

i am pras'in all over the place here my love

[Detoxx]

The only thing that could make it funnier is it hear it coming from a guild whose players farmed VP non-stop for 5 years.

Oh wait that actually happened.

Please try to speak English while smashing your keyboard. Also, facts help emphasize statements. You have none.

Move along!

[Lanuven]

Now this thread is about rotated sky that Rustle broke a written agreement on because they felt like it.

The mentality was you could have our day as long as we could still do it in the near future (when other shit wasn't in window). Which was very rare. But instead of asking for the slot you just assumed it was yours now.

And then you wonder why we don't want to rotate anything else with yall? We'll get screwed 9 out of 10 times.

[maskedmelon]

Now this thread is about rotated sky that Rustle broke a written agreement on because they felt like it.

The mentality was you could have our day as long as we could still do it in the near future (when other shit wasn't in window). Which was very rare. But instead of asking for the slot you just assumed it was yours now.

And then you wonder why we don't want to rotate anything else with yall? We'll get screwed 9 out of 10 times.

But your 2/2 without it. 9/10 better odds

[Freakish]

I suggest taking the victim mentality to the instance where you actually got screwed, the only people who think you were wronged by having your sky slot taken are in awakened.

[Daldaen]

https://imgur.com/a/7bfgl

I can't wait to down this mob on P99 once Luclin launches.

Actually needing Enchanter's to memblur. Actually needing knights to tank. Not being able to Zerg due to death adds.

It's gonna be great guys.

[Detoxx]

Now this thread is about rotated sky that Rustle broke a written agreement on because they felt like it.

The mentality was you could have our day as long as we could still do it in the near future (when other shit wasn't in window). Which was very rare. But instead of asking for the slot you just assumed it was yours now.

And then you wonder why we don't want to rotate anything else with yall? We'll get screwed 9 out of 10 times.

Oh please forgive me. How dare I misrepresent what he meant. Let me give it another try

"We're awakened, we have people who might or might not at some point somewhere down the line in the not so distant but distant future could possibly someday maybe need to possibly go to sky so we lay claim to an entire day that we might or might not, in the not so distant but distant futute possibly might need maybe. If you want to use it, we'll run a guild wide poll 30 days from now and not come back with an answer then get mad you used our day that we don't really need but might someday down the line in the not so distant future."

[Lanuven]

I suggest taking the victim mentality to the instance where you actually got screwed, the only people who think you were wronged by having your sky slot taken are in awakened.

I don't personally give a shit about sky, but I would have still asked for the slot instead of just taking it like a disrespectful thug.

"You" want rotations. Rotations are built on respect. I see none of that from the guilds asking for it.

[Lanuven]

But your 2/2 without it. 9/10 better odds

I just noticed your sig. I have claim to that in game name, sorry.

[fan D]

some guy named happyhealz got docked 450dkp for posting on the p99 forums? and he is still in that guild and defending said guild??

talk about getting cucked. this guy might officially be a bigger pussy than that Kagey fella

[Freakish]

Why didn't you let other guilds know you weren't using your slot?

[Lanuven]

You're in a guild led by the same people that broke the original C/R/FFA rotation.

How dense are you idiots, really?

You sound like a woman bringing up old shit over and over again.

These rotations were recent ones that we were upholding. Now we want to compete again for the mobs since the rotation is over and you're QQ'ing that you want the rotation back.
LOL

[Lanuven]

Why didn't you let other guilds know you weren't using your slot?

They knew, for a time guilds would ask and we said sure.

[maskedmelon]

I just noticed your sig. I have claim to that in game name, sorry.

Game name??? Boobs?

[Detoxx]

Why didn't you let other guilds know you weren't using your slot?

That'd be too reasonable. Inc sky wars. No rotation is safe...

[AzzarTheGod]

alot of us been here since '09 , but if you havent had atleast one forum account suspended or banned in all that time you are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong

I feel like I have seen this exact same post before. Time is a flat circle.

this poem I wrote based on this thread's deja vu:


CHORUS:


we live the same century, the simulation I repeat

its our mind that changes things to make the time seem unique

in hollow states, like musical chairs without the beat

REM de-fragmentizes the program, as we sleep

its deja vu, you haven't a clue whats to follow

my rhymes aren't dark, I just found that place where its hollow


First verse:


This parable I speak upon is not for weak to feast upon,

so stop your browser if you think you're weak and start breathing wrong

the 4th of October, Raev's soul was older than expected

the time-wasting went undetected, in reverse minutes

I struck RNF to get replenished, with a thirst for the mundane posters

I became One, with no emotion

I sustain them, facing mirrors

Starring at my God in second person

Flying over Nune, watching them rust over Churches

The innocence, trapped in my aura, was vanquished

Overpowered by the Detoxx, which harnessed the matricks

I'm one with my mishaps, the hunger unbearable

To the point of self-cremation, becoming atmospherical

Escaping capture (ban), because no one knew I existed

Except those who face the rapture of my astral linguistics



Repeat Chorus x2


Second verse:

[fan D]

I feel like I have seen this exact same post before. Time is a flat circle.

this poem I wrote based on this thread's deja vu:


CHORUS:


we live the same century, the simulation I repeat

its our mind that changes things to make the time seem unique

in hollow states, like musical chairs without the beat

REM de-fragmentizes the program, as we sleep

its deja vu, you haven't a clue whats to follow

my rhymes aren't dark, I just found that place where its hollow


First verse:


This parable I speak upon is not for weak to feast upon,

so stop your browser if you think you're weak and start breathing wrong

the 4th of October, Raev's soul was older than expected

the time-wasting went undetected, in reverse minutes

I struck RNF to get replenished, with a thirst for the mundane posters

I became One, with no emotion

I sustain them, facing mirrors

Starring at my God in second person

Flying over Nune, watching them rust over Churches

The innocence, trapped in my aura, was vanquished

Overpowered by the Detoxx, which harnessed the matricks

I'm one with my mishaps, the hunger unbearable

To the point of self-cremation, becoming atmospherical

Escaping capture (ban), because no one knew I existed

Except those who face the rapture of my astral linguistics



Repeat Chorus x2


Second verse:
http://i.imgur.com/3UK23NA.gif

[Breaken]

I feel the need to address the lemmings in the thread. I call you lemmings because, due to one comment, you keep bringing up a fact that doesn't actually exist, but you run with it because you have no other thing to mention.

We do run polls from time to time. We run them for multiple things and multiple reasons. We may use those votes directly or we may just use them for knowledge of how the member base feels. I'm sorry if your guild doesn't ask you your opinion. I feel sorry that you put in that many hours into this game only to be told your opinion.

Anyway, just because we poll the guild, or post discussion threads, does not mean they are the end all of everything. I will say, if you are in a guild that does not care about your opinion, maybe you should consider another guild.

[Moosetoe]

Holy fucking fuck. I get caught up on this thread earlier in the morning, turn my head, and there's 20 more pages of pure-wall-text treats to read.

[bdastomper58]

fuck you're bad at this

[Valse]

http://i.imgur.com/Cj2QuCT.png
http://i.imgur.com/c8ReaYF.gif

[Erati]

You're in a guild led by the same people that broke the original C/R/FFA rotation.


No C/R/FFA rotation was ever broken bc those were server rules.

The only thing that was broken up was the PLAYER MADE Class R rotation which you were no part of. Also when the rotation dissolved, every entity knew this and moved on, unlike a recent rotation that was broken up without warning outside of passive aggressive threats.

[Freakish]

sentry badain pop

oh its turned in already

[AzzarTheGod]

Second verse then eh boys?

[Detoxx]

I feel the need to address the lemmings in the thread. I call you lemmings because, due to one comment, you keep bringing up a fact that doesn't actually exist, but you run with it because you have no other thing to mention.

We do run polls from time to time. We run them for multiple things and multiple reasons. We may use those votes directly or we may just use them for knowledge of how the member base feels. I'm sorry if your guild doesn't ask you your opinion. I feel sorry that you put in that many hours into this game only to be told your opinion.

Anyway, just because we poll the guild, or post discussion threads, does not mean they are the end all of everything. I will say, if you are in a guild that does not care about your opinion, maybe you should consider another guild.

We do plenty of polls. But we don't hold up entire guild rotations for 30 days when a poll is taken. Sometimes leaders gotta lead, naw mean.

[Detoxx]

why is AM in here acting like they are Top Guys?

Guild can't even down most Velious content without allying with another guild.

Thanks for your relevant input. Considering we've killed everything in the game solo multiple times it seems you are wrong. How many Sontalaks has Awakened killed solo? Ohhh that's right, none. I'll ask you to look back at Speedis post referring to why that hasn't happened.

Actually, being the only guild on the server to actually down everything by themselves, including Sontalak, I think that makes us top dawg, you feels? ;)

Continue on though, sir.

[Detoxx]

Top Guild hasn't killed an AOW without friends in 3 months.

Can't solo guild CT or Yelinak anymore.

This game is so hard.

Fair points, rather kill AoW with friends than watch him wipe out my 100 man raid force. CT, AoW and Yelinak all spawned and continue to spawn at shit hours. If you think we can't kill them, you're wrong. I do believe, though, that you guys could not kill Sontalak.

GL!

[Detoxx]

#hoshkarstaffs

[Freakish]

I've actually wondered why dain / ct aren't beholden to fte race rules. I understand yelinak not needing it because perma rooted, even if I feel it should share the same rules for consistency. I'm sure if you could clear to these guys you wouldn't need zerg race numbers to claim solo kills at weekday 3am spawns.

[SavageBeast15]

rumor has it rustle was up in sky tonight killing KoS triggers and keepers on another guilds sky day. Will they stop at nothing, or will all rotations be broken!

[bktroost]

rumor has it rustle was up in sky tonight killing KoS triggers and keepers on another guilds sky day. Will they stop at nothing, or will all rotations be broken!

Heh it's my sky day. Thursday AM is unclaimed. They left us a trigger for our normal sky day. Keep spinnin them wheels!

[Vianna]

I don't personally give a shit about sky, but I would have still asked for the slot instead of just taking it like a disrespectful thug.

"You" want rotations. Rotations are built on respect. I see none of that from the guilds asking for it.

Just an FYI. Your guild isn't in control of anything on this server. So please stop acting like you are. K thanks.

[Pokesan]

it's gotta be bad when even detoxx is shocked by your behavior

[Syche]

This thread is amazing. As part of the < Taken Scum > that merged into Awakened, it's funny to read all the accusations, retreads of history, and general spin in here. I'm enjoying the read, thanks for taking up a couple hours of my work day!

[Suwu]

This thread is amazing. As part of the < Taken Scum > that merged into Awakened, it's funny to read all the accusations, retreads of history, and general spin in here. I'm enjoying the read, thanks for taking up a couple hours of my work day!

Amazing right? 10/10

[Lanuven]

Just an FYI. Your guild isn't in control of anything on this server. So please stop acting like you are. K thanks.

So stop asking us to rotate mobs when we want to kill them. We upheld our agreement. Can you say the same?

[Joyelle]

Please try to speak English while smashing your keyboard.

This is an indisputable gem of this thread.

[nyclin]

So stop asking us to rotate mobs when we want to kill them. We upheld our agreement. Can you say the same?

But an agreement is only truly broken if Taken or Awakened can be blamed. Never mind Rustle violating the Sky or VP rotations, they did that for the health of the server and to foster good relationships between guilds.

[bktroost]

It's all gravy guys.

[Tankdan]

Have you guys considered Runescape 3? It's pretty addicting.

[nyclin]

Have you guys considered Runescape 3? It's pretty addicting.

Did you quit playing Overwatch?

[Tankdan]

Did you quit playing Overwatch?

Yes too addicted to Runescape at the moment.

[kotton05]

This is an indisputable gem of this thread.

there was a few gems in this one

[Zizba]

So now that Rustle has broken the Veeshan's Peak Rotation ...

Prediction
If Aftermath survives a month or two, I think rotations come back with a vengeance. Rustle, Aftermath, Awakened, and CSG would rotate Dain, VP, ST golems, and Ring Wars. All players are simply doing more work for roughly the same amount of pixels without a rotation. If Aftermath collapses, I see the 'competition' getting fiercer.


But an agreement is only truly broken if Taken or Awakened can be blamed. Never mind Rustle violating the Sky or VP rotations, they did that for the health of the server and to foster good relationships between guilds.



TLDR : Rustle want a slot in the VP Rotation, they break the previous agreement. Blame Awakened.

Other guilds just blindly Bandwagon on the Awakened Hate train cause of previous accidents & cause Rustle are helping those guilds with some targets. (Tunare dpsmeterkikoolol)

AMAZING. they even have the "Greatness" to post themself that they broke the agreement & talk sh** about there "allies/tools".

[kagrobb]

Amazing right? 10/10

so hecking amazingballz would troll again 12/10

[Nikkanu]

Why is this stupidity not moved to RNF yet? Jesus christ...

[Vianna]

What is my problem with Detoxx? I've been raiding p99 since last fall. Since then, I can name 9 officers (friends) off the top of my head who have quit or have burned out as a direct result of having to interact with Detoxx on a weekly basis. Say what you want about any other leadership on this server, no other person is using this as a deliberate strategy to wear down the competition. Read into why Rampage's leadership quit. It had everything to do with how bad Detoxx is to work with. When he sings his victory about kiling Rampage, what he is actually talking about is being intolerable to the point of not wanting to play anymore.

As for Taken's contribution to Awakened it is abundantly clear that none of it would have been possible if so many people did not like Detoxx so much. But that was before, and today's Awakened is made up of mostly new(er) players who weren't a part of the first half of velious raiding, because we get the most recruits as a result of being the top guild.

You seem like someone who is always left out of the loop. If you play this game and get affected by someone to the point you type out 2 paragraphs. Seek help at a mental health facility. Anyone reading this thread and the threads in raid discussion can see who the person/guild is causing the problems. It is Breaken and Awakened.

[Vianna]

So stop asking us to rotate mobs when we want to kill them. We upheld our agreement. Can you say the same?

I am just a 3rd party. Your guild seems like the lower class of all the guilds discussing this stuff. It also seems like the guild with the worst leadership. It seems like it is led more by the emotions of your player base than the actual people with officer tags. You guys should seriously consider promoting Eratani to Guild leader. That Breaken guy is clueless.

[Nikkanu]

PS. ANYONE that as tried to participate in this thread in any meaningful way has 100% lost my respect. Way to go for making your entire guilds look bad.

[Vianna]

TLDR : Rustle want a slot in the VP Rotation, they break the previous agreement. Blame Awakened.

Other guilds just blindly Bandwagon on the Awakened Hate train cause of previous accidents & cause Rustle are helping those guilds with some targets. (Tunare dpsmeterkikoolol)

AMAZING. they even have the "Greatness" to post themself that they broke the agreement & talk sh** about there "allies/tools".

No. Rustle opened the discussion 30 days in advance to have their own slot in VP. Awakened came into this thread claiming they were only given a 12 hour notice or whatever. When your leadership can't discuss things coherently with other guilds you run into disagreements like the one that happened with Rustle. Your guild is full of Lemmings leading themselves.

[Detoxx]

What is my problem with Detoxx? I've been raiding p99 since last fall. Since then, I can name 9 officers (friends) off the top of my head who have quit or have burned out as a direct result of having to interact with Detoxx on a weekly basis. Say what you want about any other leadership on this server, no other person is using this as a deliberate strategy to wear down the competition. Read into why Rampage's leadership quit. It had everything to do with how bad Detoxx is to work with. When he sings his victory about kiling Rampage, what he is actually talking about is being intolerable to the point of not wanting to play anymore.

As for Taken's contribution to Awakened it is abundantly clear that none of it would have been possible if so many people did not like Detoxx so much. But that was before, and today's Awakened is made up of mostly new(er) players who weren't a part of the first half of velious raiding, because we get the most recruits as a result of being the top guild.

Take a step back, breathe. It's ok, my friend. I promise I'm not going to kill your first born.

I find it rather funny that if any of this was true, why are these same people currently working with me?
You seriously need to seek help if I, someone you've never met, is affecting you that deeply

Holes. Many holes.

[Zizba]

No. Rustle opened the discussion 30 days in advance to have their own slot in VP. Awakened came into this thread claiming they were only given a 12 hour notice or whatever. When your leadership can't discuss things coherently with other guilds you run into disagreements like the one that happened with Rustle. Your guild is full of Lemmings leading themselves.

No about what?

I am not part of Awakened, i am a nobody giving my opinion. You're a tool with your "opened the discussion ..."

[Lanuven]

I am just a 3rd party. Your guild seems like the lower class of all the guilds discussing this stuff. It also seems like the guild with the worst leadership. It seems like it is led more by the emotions of your player base than the actual people with officer tags. You guys should seriously consider promoting Eratani to Guild leader. That Breaken guy is clueless.

You say lower class cause you drink the Aftermath Koolaid. Say what you want bottom feeder. But maybe someone should clarify again for you what our guild is about.


I feel the need to address the lemmings in the thread. I call you lemmings because, due to one comment, you keep bringing up a fact that doesn't actually exist, but you run with it because you have no other thing to mention.

We do run polls from time to time. We run them for multiple things and multiple reasons. We may use those votes directly or we may just use them for knowledge of how the member base feels. I'm sorry if your guild doesn't ask you your opinion. I feel sorry that you put in that many hours into this game only to be told your opinion.

Anyway, just because we poll the guild, or post discussion threads, does not mean they are the end all of everything. I will say, if you are in a guild that does not care about your opinion, maybe you should consider another guild.

Guild - an organization of persons with related interests, goals, etc., especially one formed for mutual aid or protection.

We are all on the same page most of the time. If our guild wanted to rotate mobs as a whole, we would be rotating more mobs than we were. If our members want to track VS and a random kunark mob here or there, we will. Our leadership listens to what we want and isn't out for their own personal agenda. I'm sorry that you let someone else speak for you.

http://www.awakenedguild.com/

[Tankdan]

Did you guys know the only 2 people with Vulak loot night 1 of Velious are in <Swifties> ?

We are also a highly regarded guild with no drama of any kind.

[Metalopolis]

What is my problem with Detoxx? I've been raiding p99 since last fall. Since then, I can name 9 officers (friends) off the top of my head who have quit or have burned out as a direct result of having to interact with Detoxx on a weekly basis. Say what you want about any other leadership on this server, no other person is using this as a deliberate strategy to wear down the competition. Read into why Rampage's leadership quit. It had everything to do with how bad Detoxx is to work with. When he sings his victory about kiling Rampage, what he is actually talking about is being intolerable to the point of not wanting to play anymore.

As for Taken's contribution to Awakened it is abundantly clear that none of it would have been possible if so many people did not like Detoxx so much. But that was before, and today's Awakened is made up of mostly new(er) players who weren't a part of the first half of velious raiding, because we get the most recruits as a result of being the top guild.

And so Rampage decided to wake The SSleeper just to "spite Detoxx," before they left the P99 server. Regardless of the potentially thousands of other players whom it may effect.

Talk about selfish, egotistical and childish. God dddaaayyyuuummmm!

[Tankdan]

And so Rampage decided to wake The Sleeper just to "spite Detoxx," before they left the P99 server. Regardless of the potentially thousands of other players whom it may effect.

Talk about selfish, egotistical and childish. God dddaaayyyuuummmm!
>Sleeper
>Thousands of other players


This is why we woke it. So much entitlement.

[Metalopolis]

>Sleeper
>Thousands of other players


This is why we woke it.

EQMac was able to go 6 years without waking The Sleeper (before it was ultimately awoken by a guild of players from P99)
P99 could barely make it 6 months

Its the perfect example of the P99 raid scene

[eisenfaust]

I can't believe this server still has the population it does. All this stressing over 16 year old pixels. Hopefully you enjoy it and don't look back someday and regret all the time you potentially wasted... Ask yourselves this; If I gave up Project1999, would the quality of my life improve? The answer is most likely a resounding yes. GO OUTSIDE NERDS!!!

[radda]

You woke it cause you have no will power

[Zizba]

>Sleeper
>Thousands of other players


This is why we woke it. So much entitlement.

Cause you were selfish, elitist about a 17y old emulator. and now they want a spot in the rotation in VP

And pêople are trying to blame Awakened that thing is unreal ...

[Morbo the Annihilator]

This thread is amazing. As part of the < Taken Scum > that merged into Awakened, it's funny to read all the accusations, retreads of history, and general spin in here. I'm enjoying the read, thanks for taking up a couple hours of my work day!

For sure.

If i had the patience, I'm sure I could cobble together a Clear-vs-Clear-esque conversation between people barking at Taken for being Class R welfare bums then barking at Awakened for being greedy pixel-fiends.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115063

[Llodd]

The only real question left is will this thread make 100+ pages like the last similar thread a cpl years back.

People shitting on top guild (tmo back then) for being so selfish and greedy. People from smaller guilds asking why doesn't the top guild give up some spawns (every cpl-several months) to allow others of the playerbase to see some content. Top guild coming back and basically saying stfu, we *need* it all to ourselves.

Nothing changes.

[Zekayy]

Good god, I officially have cancer now after getting through, all 50 pages of this thread. Go outside live a little spend time with family there's more to life than pixels.

[Aata]

I am just a 3rd party. Your guild seems like the lower class of all the guilds discussing this stuff. It also seems like the guild with the worst leadership. It seems like it is led more by the emotions of your player base than the actual people with officer tags. You guys should seriously consider promoting Eratani to Guild leader. That Breaken guy is clueless.

So many 'seems' and not enough know, It seems we see who is clueless..

[fan D]

this just in



if you read this far


(((((kill yourselves)))))))

[fan D]

i've read every word thus far and here are my nominees of top 3 cringe inducing posters who've graced this thread

1. kagey
2. TIE - naethyn/speedi

[fan D]

No C/R/FFA rotation was ever broken bc those were server rules.

The only thing that was broken up was the PLAYER MADE Class R rotation which you were no part of. Also when the rotation dissolved, every entity knew this and moved on, unlike a recent rotation that was broken up without warning outside of passive aggressive threats.

sorry but you don't seem to be embarrassed for knowing all the rules regarding the old raid rotation

why not ??

[fan D]

What is my problem with Detoxx? I've been raiding p99 since last fall. Since then, I can name 9 officers (friends) off the top of my head who have quit or have burned out as a direct result of having to interact with Detoxx on a weekly basis.

??? lol

plz tell me this kid is lieing

it can't be true

where to even begin ? i'm at a loss for words. hey buddy you go some serious issues lol. good god you need to step away from the computer and get some sun holy moly

[fan D]

the best part of the 50 pages is it appears people from all the bickering guilds are in agreement over one thing, they are embarrassed for Naethyns post

here it is, in all of it's glory, can someone enshrine this plz

What is my problem with Detoxx? I've been raiding p99 since last fall. Since then, I can name 9 officers (friends) off the top of my head who have quit or have burned out as a direct result of having to interact with Detoxx on a weekly basis. Say what you want about any other leadership on this server, no other person is using this as a deliberate strategy to wear down the competition. Read into why Rampage's leadership quit. It had everything to do with how bad Detoxx is to work with. When he sings his victory about kiling Rampage, what he is actually talking about is being intolerable to the point of not wanting to play anymore.

[Halox]

this just in



if you read this far


(((((kill yourselves)))))))

The very next post...


i've read every word thus far

So...

[Nixtar]

...And this is why we have instances in modern MMOs. No one actually likes this kind of competition.

[maskedmelon]

Whether Awakened or Aftermath of any other guild is top is entirely relevant. The important issue at hand is that Rustle has just delivered a mighty blow to Awakened's genitals not once but twice. It is very obvious Rustle will get what Rustle wants. They've a very attractive offering for raiders in the form of their loot distribution policy alliance with Aftermath and highly competent core allowing them to compete content with fewer people resulting in less pixel competition and more loot sooner.

They are skimming talent from both Awakened and Aftermath. And as word gets around they'll be the go to guild for upcoming talent. Currently their interests align with the rest of the server and are at odds with Awakened, so it is Awakened who will pay the price of Rustle's ambition. Word to the wise, meet them halfway, so they don't come at you all the way out of annoyance.

[Legday]

I once had a conversation in tells with Naethyn that started out with me thinking that this guy must have had a bad interaction with Detoxx in the past. It ended with me knowing for a fact that he had clearly never had a personal interaction with Detoxx yet was completely consumed with what he had heard about Detoxx, to the point that if you gave him a gun with 2 bullets in a room with Detoxx and Hitler, he would shoot Detoxx twice.

[Pheer]

I once had a conversation in tells with Naethyn that started out with me thinking that this guy must have had a bad interaction with Detoxx in the past. It ended with me knowing for a fact that he had clearly never had a personal interaction with Detoxx yet was completely consumed with what he had heard about Detoxx, to the point that if you gave him a gun with 2 bullets in a room with Detoxx and Hitler, he would shoot Detoxx twice.

Log in right now and /guildremove then submit an app to Awakened. I guarantee your pm's and tell window will be full of more "personal interactions" with detoxx than you can handle. Nobody ever questioned his ability to stir up a strong batch of koolaid.

[Fanguru]

This thread is amazing.
I want to look away, but reading this is mesmerizing.
We got sad trolls trying to push buttons and make people angry, ex-class C people whining about loot distribution after bleeding the server dry for years, and the same old people using Trump-level tactics of persuasion by repeating the same thing over and over until someone believes them.
Carry on.

[Naxi]

Naethyn believes people hate Awakened because they are jealous about his guild's "awesomeness". By this logic, his hatred for Detoxx is based on jealousy and his awesomeness too.

[Joyelle]

The sentiments expressed in this thread and threads like it only serve to fuel the dumpster fire of guild relations on P99. This is why nobody wants to work together. It's probably not the wisest course of action to launch a full on barrage of attacks against the entity that you want concessions from. It's much more satisfying to kick the bully in the nuts rather than give him your lunch money.

You get what you give... perhaps everyone here would do well to remember that.

[icedwards]

FWIW a new rotation was worked out, thread was fun while it lasted though.

[maskedmelon]

FWIW a new rotation was worked out, thread was fun while it lasted though.

Good to hear. Kudos to all involved ^^

[manguard]

I was going to try to reply with something witty and sarcastic but i've lost too many braincells from reading this thread to even function anymore

[khanable]

thread was fun while it lasted though.

[Freakish]

FWIW a new rotation was worked out, thread was fun while it lasted though.

I didn't agree to this. You just poked the dog.

[Daldaen]

Can we now all agree Luclin is in the best interest of everyone involved?

[khanable]

Can we now all agree Luclin is in the best interest of everyone involved?

No


Will change to 'maybe' if cats, catland, nexus, and bazaar are removed and luclin access comes from taking a gnomish spaceship from steamfont

[arsenalpow]

Luclin has been a pretty badass expansion so far. Although I have no idea how VT shard camping would work on p99. Some of those shards are annoying as fk to get.

[maskedmelon]

Will change to 'maybe' if cats, catland, nexus, and bazaar are removed and luclin access comes from taking a gnomish spaceship from steamfont

Good proposal. Would like to see gnome spaceship take at least as long as the Bb-fp boat and include ability to jump off with cold dot and drowning if disembarking too high and fire dot if higher yet.

[Daldaen]

No


Will change to 'maybe' if cats, catland, nexus, and bazaar are removed and luclin access comes from taking a gnomish spaceship from steamfont

I really need to hear your logic on why Nexus should be removed.

[Daldaen]

Dawnshroud shard was 100x worse than PS.

Are you high? That's the easiest shard...

Maiden's Eye was typically the crappiest one for people. The Fungus Grove one also sucked because of the low number of mobs that dropped it. The Deep was rough because most people feared that zone and didn't want to go there.

[Joyelle]

It's so funny watching y'all come back with the "don't poke the bear" type comments

YALL BETTER WATCH OUT OR IM GONNA STARE AT THIS DOOR EVEN HARDER

sheesh

Case in point. Thank you for your that brilliant illustration.

[xKoopa]

God i wish we could have luclin/pop

Fk phinny doe

[Daldaen]

DSP took me a month.

I got ME in an hour

What the hell were you doing in DSP lol?

Tailoring farmers who AE Rockhoppers typically get 1-2 shards per clear of the cave. They would rot all the time.

[Whirled]

The class R mindset would be pro casual / rotation, would it not? You guys and your blanket statements for guilds are hilarious. Every guild has personalities all over the board. Most people on this server are very cordial. Unfortunately the greedy ass holes tend to taint the image of the whole.

It seems very obvious that a rotation / ffa alternation is the best thing for the majority of the server, but as the past has proven in the past the neckbeards that perpetuate the fucked up raid scene here will always find a way to ruin the enjoyment of nostalgia quest for everyone else with a casual gaming mindset.

My suggestion is all of you "competitive" people go to red and enjoy rubbing your e-penii together until the end of time. Leave blue a place for casual filth to enjoy the game in a healthy manor that doesn't impede ones ability to be a productive member of society.

Please go outside and breathe, guis.

This is not healthy.

This thread is amazing.
I want to look away, but reading this is mesmerizing.
We got sad trolls trying to push buttons and make people angry, ex-class C people whining about loot distribution after bleeding the server dry for years, and the same old people using Trump-level tactics of persuasion by repeating the same thing over and over until someone believes them.
Carry on.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/76dXlFZZEqNH2/200_s.gif

I'm not understanding the problem with this sharing that's being discussed in a heated manner. Why can't we all just get along? /boggle:confused:

[getsome]

What the hell were you doing in DSP lol?

Tailoring farmers who AE Rockhoppers typically get 1-2 shards per clear of the cave. They would rot all the time.

I did not see that type of AE action by farmers in the early stages of luclin. Perhaps later on in future expansions.

[Daldaen]

For me it was always Fungus Grove. Only like 10 Royal guards and I had awful luck. But that blows my mind DSP shards held up someone's key. That was almost always the first one I grabbed just because of how frequently the camp was taken and how many mobs dropped it/how AEable they were.

[arsenalpow]

I'm only missing ME, FG, Grey, and Acrylia now. Dawnshroud shard was stupid easy and I scooped up the seru shard before our raids. FG and ME seem to be the worst.

[Daldaen]

Acrylia shard kinda sucked in AC1.0. Only dropped from the two guards at the entrance to the city area or from Inner AC which barely anyone did the key for.

[getsome]

On phinny are you competing for shard camps or do you get a new zone instance?

[Daldaen]

I'm sure there are like 10 pick instances per zone during prime time.

[Loke]

Jesus, this thread is still going? Seriously Sirken, just make VP no CSR again. Most of the people who were around during that period agree it was some of the most fun they've ever had in EQ. The content is old and trivial. Most of the loot is weak. The difficulty of attaining a key keeps most casuals out of the zone. It is literally the perfect situation to let the raid guilds take their frustrations out on each other.

The raid scene on this server has gotten so lame that bragging rights basically boil down to who was able to run to a mob first... no CSR VP would actually present an opportunity where raids would have to do more than wait for the FTE race and then kill an uncontested mob. It would actually reintroduce some degree of competition to raiding.

If you consider foot races competition I'm sure the dept of fun guild will be holding another rivervale race at some point in the future, but that shit is weak when you're talking about end game guilds. Let us train the hell out of each other and utilize the zone fully and see who gets mobs. 1 zone of anarchy on a server governed by endless rules isn't asking much.

Edit - just for clarity, for the majority of no CSR VP I was on the losing end of things. TMO wrecked us for months before we got our first kill. It was still way more fun than the weekly special olympics we've got going on in ToV and Kael. Make VP great again.

[khanable]

I really need to hear your logic on why Nexus should be removed.

Wasn't the nexus the port in/out zoning using the translocator people? I'm not knowledgeable of luclin but the point would be to remove those silly people in favor of a rocket ship


Duh

[Loke]

Wasn't the nexus the port in/out zoning using the translocator people? I'm not knowledgeable of luclin but the point would be to remove those silly people in favor of a rocket ship


Duh

Nexus wasn't nearly as bad as PoK books, and actually a pretty solid compromise imo. I think the pads worked on a 15 minute timer, so getting a port from a druid/wiz was still way more convenient.

Also, Bazaar was dope simply because there was an arena there. Had a ton of fun in Luclin/PoP doing post raid night "king of the arena" events with other guilds in the bazaar arena. I'm admittedly not much of a trader so I don't really see the appeal of EC tunnel, but bazaar arena would be a welcome addition imo.

[khanable]

Nexus wasn't nearly as bad as PoK books, and actually a pretty solid compromise imo. I think the pads worked on a 15 minute timer, so getting a port from a druid/wiz was still way more convenient.

Also, Bazaar was dope simply because there was an arena there. Had a ton of fun in Luclin/PoP doing post raid night "king of the arena" events with other guilds in the bazaar arena. I'm admittedly not much of a trader so I don't really see the appeal of EC tunnel, but bazaar arena would be a welcome addition imo.

but but but a fucking spaceship!

[xKoopa]

but but but a fucking spaceship!

NOT CLASSIC

[Lammy]

Luclin has been a pretty badass expansion so far. Although I have no idea how VT shard camping would work on p99. Some of those shards are annoying as fk to get.

I must admit, I am slightly jealous you are getting to experience Luclin.

[Sorn]

Wasn't the nexus the port in/out zoning using the translocator people? I'm not knowledgeable of luclin but the point would be to remove those silly people in favor of a rocket ship


Duh

Oh, no. I recall the timer was either 15 or 20 minutes and you had to get a shard of the nexus from either the people or from a groundspawn in order to use the teleporters. The NPCs hanging out at the spires were only there to tell you how to use it and to announce when a port was about to happen.