BDA faeming skimming, and sccepting bribes.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I do NOT intend to be troublemaker, but Phinegel BDA is entirely corrupt. Just beware. Be careful. It seems what happened to BDA, Chest sold his GL status to a noodle shop in Brooklyn.

Needless to say, here is what the "loot council" for BDA currently looks and acts like:
http://i.imgur.com/unqsAUP.gif

Just be careful. I think BDA might be nothing more than juvenile no goods!

[entruil]

Chest sold his GL status.

[Baler]

BDA is entirely corrupt

no shit sherlock.

[skarlorn]

how much do Kronos sell for?

how much did he sell the Gbank for in kronos?

[Sweettouch]

This is nothing new,loot council favors the cocksuckers and select few

[Swish]

What a bunch of cunts ^^

[Thulack]

how much do Kronos sell for?

how much did he sell the Gbank for in kronos?

Like 6 or 7 dollars each for Kronos last time i checked.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Chest and other BDA Officers have in the past solicited me to join their guild several times via pm's.

[Relbaic]

This is nothing new,loot council favors the cocksuckers and select few

oh you

[AzzarTheGod]

I do NOT intend to be troublemaker, but Phinegel BDA is entirely corrupt. Just beware. Be careful. It seems what happened to BDA, Chest sold his GL status to a noodle shop in Brooklyn.

Needless to say, here is what the "loot council" for BDA currently looks and acts like:
http://i.imgur.com/unqsAUP.gif

Just be careful. I think BDA might be nothing more than juvenile no goods!

I can hear the batphone going off now. BDA is knocking tables over to get to this thread for damage control.

[sirelothar]

confirmed, here via batphone

[skarlorn]

Pretty amazing. BDA's former members are their own worst enemy. Says a lot about the shit guild of retards who actually corrupt leaders with their pixel futures. I bet BDA is voting Hillary.

[skarlorn]

believe corrupt leaders*

double post, but i assure u I am quite cool n not mad

[entruil]

Wake up now, number 37.

[AzzarTheGod]

I have just been informed that BDA is taking the Hillary "High Road" on this one, per fearless leader Chest's direct and specific orders.

It came from the top down. You heard it here first this thread is off limits to BDA.

[jcr4990]

I have just been informed that BDA is taking the Hillary "High Road" on this one, per fearless leader Chest's direct and specific orders.

It came from the top down. You heard it here first this thread is off limits to BDA.

Confirmed false. I just don't care enough about this thread to really say much about it. It's common knowledge that loot council is kind of a shitty loot system but it is what it is. Everybody knew what the deal was when they app'd and as far as loot councils go BDA's isn't so bad.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

as far as loot councils go BDA's isn't so bad.

As long as you answer batphones to BDA PR threads. Got to try to hold a decent reputation cause once PoP is done on Phinigel you will all come back here en masse.

[burkemi5]

What's the rationale behind loot council for BDA? Other than the fact that occifers can filter all the good gear to themselves first? LC is objectively bad.

[Swish]

Confirmed false. I just don't care enough about this thread to really say much about it. It's common knowledge that loot council is kind of a shitty loot system but it is what it is

Why are you disrespecting your own guild? Sounds like you're getting jaded

[maskedmelon]

What's the rationale behind loot council for BDA? Other than the fact that occifers can filter all the good gear to themselves first? LC is objectively bad.

For individuals it is bad, but it is useful for the collective in terms of progression. One heavily outfitted warrior is generally more useful for progression than 10 with one item each ^^ It is effectively guild NBG.

[derpcake]

For individuals it is bad, but it is useful for the collective in terms of progression. One heavily outfitted warrior is generally more useful for progression than 10 with one item each ^^ It is effectively guild NBG.

I was an officer and stuff in Raging Fury, we were a top guild for years on live.

We did not have loot council nor did we need it. Our members had the common sense to know when to bid on items, and when to let them go to the warriors or rogues or ..

Loot council is a shit system, if it isn't corrupt, it at least indicates that guild members do not have the intelligence to spend DKP in the interest of the guild.

If you don't understand that gearing up class X so you can progress past encounter Y benefits everyone, you shouldn't be in a high end raid guild.

[jcr4990]

Why are you disrespecting your own guild? Sounds like you're getting jaded

Welcome back from ur ban shithead. Just use the full quote next time and it should help alleviate confusion.

I was an officer and stuff in Raging Fury, we were a top guild for years on live.

Yea I've been a part of 2 different guilds on live EQ that were in the top 10 in the game at the time and was also in the top raid guild on my server for a while when I played WoW. I tend to gravitate to the hardcore guilds. I steered away on P99 cause I wasn't feeling the insane poopsocking required. But anyways ya BDA is the first loot council guild I've been a part of out of 10+ ultra hardcore guilds I've been in throughout various MMO's. If I had 1 complaint about BDA this would be it. Never really hid the fact that I'm not a huge fan of the system but the rest of the guild is cool so whatever I guess. Pros and Cons.

[maskedmelon]

I was an officer and stuff in Raging Fury, we were a top guild for years on live.

We did not have loot council nor did we need it. Our members had the common sense to know when to bid on items, and when to let them go to the warriors or rogues or ..

Loot council is a shit system, if it isn't corrupt, it at least indicates that guild members do not have the intelligence to spend DKP in the interest of the guild.

If you don't understand that gearing up class X so you can progress past encounter Y benefits everyone, you shouldn't be in a high end raid guild.

It is a rational system that allows a guild to advance on the backs of a few highly competent, well informed individuals filling the rest of their ranks with whomever rather than instituting a highly selective application process. Take you hardcore, casual-hating elitist retardation back to gradeschool, kthxbai..

[jcr4990]

It is a rational system that allows a guild to advance on the backs of a few highly competent, well informed individuals filling the rest of their ranks with whomever rather than instituting a highly selective application process. Take you hardcore, casual-hating elitist retardation back to gradeschool, kthxbai..

Who even are you? Loot council is inherently biased because human beings are biased. I was once asked why I don't trust loot council to do whats best and I thought about it for a second. The real reason is because I wouldn't even trust myself in that position. I would 100% unquestionably favor friends and people I like more than people I don't if it came down to it. That being the case I feel like it's unreasonable to expect me to trust a "council" of internet elves to be fair more than I trust myself to be fair. It may very well be true that giving all the best loot to the tanks/clerics and the same core group of people is what advances the guild faster. Loot council is very good for that. But it very quickly becomes tiresome to everyone that doesn't fall into those categories. Unless you're one of those people that doesn't care if they ever get loot but I think most people would agree EQ is one of the most loot-centric games there is. The entire point of the game is advancing your character imo. It's not a mystery why DKP and other variations of the same type system is by far the most used system in all raid guilds. Time/Effort = Loot. Seems very simple to me.

[arsenalpow]

I think DKP doesn't benefit a guild when it comes to progression, it benefits individuals which won't translate to guild success. If Necro McDbag stacks his DKP for all of Velious because he wants an Abashi, it hurts the guild overall because he isn't gearing himself and he's subpar in his role, and the pull team loses an Abashi for a monk.

Of course there's always controls in place like item restrictions for certain classes but that can be divisive as well. I prefer loot council, it's what I'm used to, it works for BDA as evidenced by our ability to survive over two different servers and 6+ years and our current success on Phinny.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

...Our current success on Phinny.

Phinigel is not a hard server to play on.

[jcr4990]

I think DKP doesn't benefit a guild when it comes to progression, it benefits individuals which won't translate to guild success. If Necro McDbag stacks his DKP for all of Velious because he wants an Abashi, it hurts the guild overall because he isn't gearing himself and he's subpar in his role, and the pull team loses an Abashi for a monk.

Of course there's always controls in place like item restrictions for certain classes but that can be divisive as well. I prefer loot council, it's what I'm used to, it works for BDA as evidenced by our ability to survive over two different servers and 6+ years and our current success on Phinny.

I can understand this viewpoint but the guild is made up of individuals that want benefits too. To me it's no different than being the coach of a highschool basketball team. You have 1-2 kids on the team that you know if you pass them the ball at every opportunity it will be the best chance you have to win. But as we all know the game very VERY quickly becomes unfun for everyone else when the entire rest of the team is constantly just passing the ball to Jimmy. Some people are perfectly content just passing to Jimmy all the time if it means their team wins. Other people not so much.

Do you give Jimmy the ball all the time if it means your team wins more often? Or do you force the team to share the ball and let everyone have fun and play the game?

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Looks like we got ourselves a BDA coup / civil war going on here.

Fight! Fight! Fight!

http://i.imgur.com/P7T3pQ7.jpg

[Sodors Finest Poster]

@JCR4990:

How does it feel to not gain pixels due to the choice of class you picked when you started on Phinigel?

@Arsenalpow:

How does it feel that some members of your guild do not care about the groups progression to more meaningful content and are simply in it for themselves?

http://i.imgur.com/NAYlWay.jpg

[jcr4990]

I'm not fighting. I'm not mad at BDA or leaving BDA or anything of the sort. I disagree with how loot is handled and the subject was brought up so I responded. Nothing more nothing less.

[maskedmelon]

Who even are you? Loot council is inherently biased because human beings are biased. I was once asked why I don't trust loot council to do whats best and I thought about it for a second. The real reason is because I wouldn't even trust myself in that position. I would 100% unquestionably favor friends and people I like more than people I don't if it came down to it. That being the case I feel like it's unreasonable to expect me to trust a "council" of internet elves to be fair more than I trust myself to be fair. It may very well be true that giving all the best loot to the tanks/clerics and the same core group of people is what advances the guild faster. Loot council is very good for that. But it very quickly becomes tiresome to everyone that doesn't fall into those categories. Unless you're one of those people that doesn't care if they ever get loot but I think most people would agree EQ is one of the most loot-centric games there is. The entire point of the game is advancing your character imo. It's not a mystery why DKP and other variations of the same type system is by far the most used system in all raid guilds. Time/Effort = Loot. Seems very simple to me.

That's irrational, unless you reserve your friendship for only the most talented and dependable players. It's not about fairness, it's about efficacy and benevolence. A guild employing loot council can shed members like a winter coat and not suffer. Conversely, it can take on members who might otherwise never get to experience the content that guild completes.

[jcr4990]

That's irrational, unless you reserve your friendship for only the most talented and dependable players. It's not about fairness, it's about efficacy and benevolence. A guild employing loot council can shed members like a winter coat and not suffer. Conversely, it can take on members who might otherwise never get to experience the content that guild completes.

Coincidentally (Or maybe not?) I tend to make friends with the most talented/skilled people in the guilds that I'm in. Call me elitist or whatever you want but I can't stand playing with people that suck. Been that way since 1999 and I don't see myself changing much.

That's really besides the point though. The point is EVERYONE is biased and you're a fucking idiot if you say you aren't.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

I'm not fighting. I'm not mad at BDA or leaving BDA or anything of the sort. I disagree with how loot is handled and the subject was brought up so I responded. Nothing more nothing less.

For a game which revolves around powering up your character is pixel possessions not 95% of the game?

Or do pixels on Phinigel not matter?

[jcr4990]

For a game which revolves around powering up your character is pixel possessions not 95% of the game?

Or do pixels on Phinigel not matter?

I wouldn't say 95% but yes acquiring loot to advance your character is a significant portion of the game to me and many others. Some claim it completely doesn't matter to them. I have a hard time understanding that standpoint but it definitely exists.

[maskedmelon]

Coincidentally (Or maybe not?) I tend to make friends with the most talented/skilled people in the guilds that I'm in. Call me elitist or whatever you want but I can't stand playing with people that suck. Been that way since 1999 and I don't see myself changing much.

That's really besides the point though. The point is EVERYONE is biased and you're a fucking idiot if you say you aren't.

Oh I'm biassed alright, I just err on the side of my good friend, Reason ( ^ 。~ )v

[Swish]

Call me elitist or whatever you want but I can't stand playing with people that suck. Been that way since 1999 and I don't see myself changing much.

But you're in a terrible guild full of people who dont want to compete for pixels.

Delusional, simply put.

[jcr4990]

But you're in a terrible guild full of people who dont want to compete for pixels.

Delusional, simply put.

Not wanting to poopsock =/= bad at the game u retard

There are many skilled players in BDA

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Please come back to P99.

We'll have another 6 hour guild leader summit to discuss the current raid scene.

[jcr4990]

Cause I forgot to say it in my last post. I think most reasonable people understand that all guilds have good and bad players. Has anyone ever been in a guild that had zero bad players? Even top guilds have some scrubs. There's no avoiding it completely. I just choose to closely associate with the better players generally.

[Nitsude]

There are pros and cons to both systems. In my experience I have dealt with more severe drama with a loot council. In a dkp system drama was more frequent, but more tame and usually about missing dkp, being bid up by other players, or disliking some aspect of the system. Good dkp systems usually require more leadership resources, and are very bad if your guild cannot or will not remove terrible players.

Personally I'd prefer one competent and respected person to hand out loot rather than a council. It works very well if the person knows what they are doing and are respected by the guild. Councils are more seen as more corruptable and there isn't a single person to blame if a bad call is made.

[arsenalpow]

with scheduled raiding on Phinny it's been pretty easy to maintain a consistent council for making loot decisions, 6-8 people that are 90%+ raid attendance making the calls provides for a very solid decision making base as far as i'm concerned

[maskedmelon]

What is the best class to farm rots? ^^

[arsenalpow]

What is the best class to farm rots? ^^

probably a paladin or SK, way too much of that stupid knight only crap

[icedwards]

probably a paladin or SK, way too much of that stupid knight only crap

Don't they basically replace warriors as MT during PoP? Worthwhile gearing them now or just wait til Luclin?

[khysanth]

they don't replace warriors but they actually can tank raid mobs and are very useful in the encounters with multiple off-tank enemies

[Sweettouch]

What is the best class to farm rots? ^^

not rogue,was near 100% got shit on then gave up. true story

[arsenalpow]

Fixd

correct

[maskedmelon]

My level 48 Paladin has looted a Dawncaller, Blade of the Morning (http://wiki.project1999.com/Dawncaller,_Blade_of_the_Morning) & a Chestplate of Fiery Might (http://wiki.project1999.com/Chestplate_of_Fiery_Might),

How long it take to level? ^^

[Metalopolis]

Glad to see Sweettouch is maintaining his tradition of throwing tantrums and leaving BDA on Phinny server. Hell be back; he always is.

[Susano]

Fixd

What kind of rogue blows his Vulak load on those boots? That's the kind of loot you pick up after you get your dagger ;)

[nhdjoseywales]

How long it take to level? ^^

if you dont try to solo and just join a decent groups it doesnt take long. many groups at this point have out of group help for leveling. if you get lucky and catch a double xp weekend its silly fast. i took a mage from lvl 31 on a monday to 40ish over a couple days then all the way to 60 over the double xp weekend. so far i have lvl 60 rogue, chanter, cleric, warrior, bard, and mage plus a lvl 50 monk, lvl 53 wizzie port bot and lvl 25 shammy potbot. Dont let the people who say its too slow scare you away

[arsenalpow]

Luclin drops on the 28th and people will be back to XPing to grind AAs. Get level 40 and then hang out with the AA grinders and soak up XP. Should be a quick and easy path to 60.

[Swish]

Luclin drops on the 28th and people will be back to XPing to grind AAs. Get level 40 and then hang out with the AA grinders and soak up XP. Should be a quick and easy path to 60.

Sounds terrible.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Luclin drops on the 28th and people will be back to XPing to grind AAs. Get level 40 and then hang out with the AA grinders and soak up XP. Should be a quick and easy path to 60.

If I grind to 40 can I join BDA and leech those sweet sweet pixels?

[Sweettouch]

Fixd

oh look a cocksucking faggot,glad im done with you retards and focusing on rl

[Sweettouch]

Glad to see Sweettouch is maintaining his tradition of throwing tantrums and leaving BDA on Phinny server. Hell be back; he always is.

Go fuck yourself

[maskedmelon]

Can I have the pair of Vulak booties that would have eventually gone to Sweettouch if I join? Assuming still killing him and it makes it to that point on the list ^^

[skarlorn]

Tell us how you really feel, sweet touch.

[khysanth]

oh look a cocksucking faggot,glad im done with you retards and focusing on rl

oh wow someone using a homophobic slur in the year of our lord obama 2016

nice one

[arsenalpow]

So edgy

[nhdjoseywales]

oh look a cocksucking faggot,glad im done with you retards and focusing on rl

butthurt level = 11

[skarlorn]

oh wow someone using a homophobic slur in the year of our lord obama 2016


nice post right here

sounds like sweet touch is pretty sick if he's stopped playing EQ.

Check out this post by AzzartheGod (you might have heard of him)

....I think not gaming is a sign of mental problem if you aren't replacing that activity with something better.

I got a lot of overhead im dealing with the next 1-2 weeks (shit keeps piling up and Im surrounded by un-woke sleepy devious motherfuckers and negativity) so my creativity is shot as you have to get pretty violent (or vitriolic) to push back on negative people so I don't care to expound upon the above very much at the moment. I got nothing in the tank.

But basically I determined that when friends stop gaming completely, its usually a bad sign among vaccinated people. I have never seen it be a good sign.

Just my experience and observations.

get well soon sweet tucc i hope ur not upset still over pixel quest lol :D

[skarlorn]

upboated thread

[AzzarTheGod]

get well soon sweet tucc i hope ur not upset still over pixel quest lol :D

eta till he hits someone in the head with a metal object

[khysanth]

dont people usually get banned for using that word (flame agate) ?

[skarlorn]

dont people usually get banned for using that word (flame agate) ?

Yeah, if some rat reports it. You aren't gonna report it, are ya? no one likes a rat. 2016. let ppl melt down for the luls.

[khysanth]

is it even possible to report? ctrl + f yields nothing anywhere

[skarlorn]

I believe you quote the offending fire giant in a PM to a staff member. But please don't, we need all the flames we can get here.

[Kushie]

http://memestorage.com/_nw/77/10752510.jpg

[maskedmelon]

I believe you quote the offending fire giant in a PM to a staff member. But please don't, we need all the flames we can get here.

Going to have to concur. Think we need more posts too. And maybe some Thai iced tea ^。^

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Pretty amazing. BDA's former members are their own worst enemy. Says a lot about the shit guild of retards who actually corrupt leaders with their pixel futures. I bet BDA is voting Hillary.

Confirmed. It is so bad, recruits are required to be disgusted before they are made members. Apps on phinny have to file a minimum of 5 complaints in public channels before they are considered for membership.

You have to hate us to love us, I guess.

Kind of like the piss tank at the old Manhole in the Bronx. Never was in to that scene tho. I am more of a Christian piss freak, I guess.

[jcr4990]

RIP Sweettouch

As much as Swish getting banned for saying the same thing delighted me. I'm still pretty hardcore anti-censorship. Especially in a forum designated for RANTING and FLAMING with "Enter at your own risk" posted directly underneath the link to enter it. Can we just get a big popup screen anytime you enter RNF that flashes "TRIGGER WARNING" and plays a loud warning noise to warn people then just let people speak freely once inside? Nothing triggers me more than how triggered everyone else gets at everything.

[skarlorn]

shame on you fucking rat scum. speak up now so we know who did it. no honor

[jcr4990]

shame on you fucking rat scum. speak up now so we know who did it. no honor

I guarantee it was Swish. Clear motive was recently convicted of the same "crime" and has an unhealthy obsession with all things BDA.

[entruil]

RIP Sweettouch

As much as Swish getting banned for saying the same thing delighted me. I'm still pretty hardcore anti-censorship. Especially in a forum designated for RANTING and FLAMING with "Enter at your own risk" posted directly underneath the link to enter it. Can we just get a big popup screen anytime you enter RNF that flashes "TRIGGER WARNING" and plays a loud warning noise to warn people then just let people speak freely once inside? Nothing triggers me more than how triggered everyone else gets at everything.

safe spaces... *shudder*