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bktroost
08-08-2016, 12:35 AM
The one from Whistleblower.
What happened to it? He said something that he shouldn't? I was away the past two days but i was really looking forward to reading the rest of that. Only got to first couple pages before i put it down.
If no one saved it anywhere, what did i miss?
Sadre Spinegnawer
08-08-2016, 01:06 AM
It was arguing that Ramius intended to defect. Powers that be want that story deep sixed.
Sadre Spinegnawer
08-08-2016, 06:03 AM
The fact is, Ramius has been sending us subtle hint now for several years. But he keeps his own counsel, and did not bother that none of us interpreted his earlier messages.
However, right before announcing the decision to move to Phinny, Chest posted: "7520 2389125 251521 31114 61518 2085 1215225 156 1311825."
Needless to say some of us did not need to be told twice.
AzzarTheGod
08-08-2016, 07:08 AM
The one from Whistleblower.
What happened to it? He said something that he shouldn't? I was away the past two days but i was really looking forward to reading the rest of that. Only got to first couple pages before i put it down.
If no one saved it anywhere, what did i miss?
It had slander against the staff in it towards the end, the thread mostly became about making the staff look bad and trashing the project at the same time (while not playing here, and not supporting the P99 project in any way shape or form)
Needless to say that wasn't going to be tolerated.
It was using tongue-in-cheek delivery, treading the half-joking half-serious line, but the final few posts were staff bashing slander so Whistleblower's account was deleted and I am guessing he is not welcome back.
The Whistleblower account no longer is existed after the thread so you could say that the door has officially smashed Juvento off his fucking ass. He's finished.
Swish 1 - BDA 0 (That's right, Juvento is BDA whether you like it or not). Swish we know at least is still welcome here after his suspension)
Ravager
08-08-2016, 07:36 AM
(Swish we know at least is still welcome here after his suspension)
They'll probably let him post again, but I doubt he'll be welcome here.
Sadre Spinegnawer
08-08-2016, 07:53 AM
Slander. Libel. Scurrilous charges.
I bring before you charge number one. The devs have either not the interest or ability to properly GM end game classic eq.
Sodors Finest Poster
08-08-2016, 08:00 AM
I haven't touched a breast in 5 years.
Spyder73
08-08-2016, 09:53 AM
I bring before you charge number one. The devs have either not the interest or ability to properly GM end game classic eq.
P99 is all about the alt game - Its nice to get the top gear for nostalgia sakes, but there is border line metal illness in the end game raiding scene... You cannot regulate two hundred 30-40 year old men who refuse to share with each other. Anytime a guild loses a FTE they are going to complain that the system is broken, and anytime they win its working as intended.
I realized the craziness of this server about 2 years ago when we killed Trakanon within 3-5 minutes of him spawning. That’s COTH’s, pulling, and the kill within 3-5 minutes of spawn. Was one of the most impressive/absurd things I have seen in EQ. I think we had 4 people on engage and a cleric running around kiting trash as the rest of the raid was COTH’d in.
The obvious answer to all of this is bag limits – give each guild 5 dragon kills per week and a lot of issues go away
Its nice to get the top gear for nostalgia sakes, but there is border line metal illness in the end game raiding scene... You cannot regulate two hundred 30-40 year old men who refuse to share with each other.
I don't buy it. It would be simple enough to set up a rotation, tell the players to administer it, and enforce it with GM bans. After a few months this should result in very little GM time required.
The GMs have stated they like competition, but personally I think rotations are more competitive than variance and tracking, not less. With variance you have 10-15 hypercompetitive racers and 100+ warmbodies who log in and faceroll their keyboards (that would be me). With a rotation, the goal becomes killing more content with less players in less time. So the entire guild's performance matters. The same can be said of an earthquake based system.
The only logical conclusion is that the staff prefer this. It makes no sense to me, but the server has been this way for the past 5+ years, so I don't expect it to change any time soon.
Jfertal
08-08-2016, 10:36 AM
P99 is all about the alt game - Its nice to get the top gear for nostalgia sakes, but there is border line metal illness in the end game raiding scene... You cannot regulate two hundred 30-40 year old men who refuse to share with each other. Anytime a guild loses a FTE they are going to complain that the system is broken, and anytime they win its working as intended.
I realized the craziness of this server about 2 years ago when we killed Trakanon within 3-5 minutes of him spawning. That’s COTH’s, pulling, and the kill within 3-5 minutes of spawn. Was one of the most impressive/absurd things I have seen in EQ. I think we had 4 people on engage and a cleric running around kiting trash as the rest of the raid was COTH’d in.
The obvious answer to all of this is bag limits – give each guild 5 dragon kills per week and a lot of issues go away
No, that never happened.
it would be pretty straightforward to write a script to check mac/IP addresses. And it probably wouldn't even be necessary with some suitably draconian punishments for violation
indiscriminate_hater
08-08-2016, 12:02 PM
I wouldn't put it past some people here to spin up AWS instances and run EQ from there
Llodd
08-08-2016, 01:33 PM
Didn't read the original just the stuff Baler re posted (also deleted and now banned i assume)
None of that seemed overly contentious. Mostly just BDA bashing, certainly not delete-worthy unless certain members of BDA do have 'priviledges'.
Nitsude
08-08-2016, 03:14 PM
With a rotation, the goal becomes killing more content with less players in less time. So the entire guild's performance matters. The same can be said of an earthquake based system.
A rotation might encourage smaller raid forces. Rustle is a good example. With more time, I think this will be the natural progression of the server regardless of the raiding structure.
Maybe its wishful thinking on my part.
A rotation might encourage smaller raid forces. Rustle is a good example. With more time, I think this will be the natural progression of the server regardless of the raiding structure.
Maybe its wishful thinking on my part.
With more time? How much more time do we need!?
Nitsude
08-08-2016, 03:52 PM
With more time? How much more time do we need!?
Who knows?
FatMice
08-08-2016, 04:27 PM
Pantheon release.
Ravager
08-08-2016, 04:28 PM
With more time? How much more time do we need!?
How long does unemployment and disability last?
AzzarTheGod
08-08-2016, 05:10 PM
How long does unemployment and disability last?
With current foodstamp programs (depending on your State which has final authority over Fed guidelines)
Probably awhile. Also disability is forever and it is absolutely binding and permanent once you are declared disabled that's it they ask you to turn over your man-card.
Unemployment is cycled and doesn't mix with disability.
The amount of the benefit is based on net income. Starting with your monthly gross income, you can subtract household expenses, work expenses and some of your payroll taxes, child support payments, child-care costs if you need it to free yourself up for work or training, dependent care expenses and other costs. The elderly and disabled can subtract a portion of their medical expenses, and farmers can deduct some farming losses. - SNAP
so on and so forth many more deductions to strike against your income. However, if you own a nice car or house you are automatically disqualified in many States from SNAP so this post doesn't pertain to anyone on Red99.
Just trying to help BDA stay alive.
AzzarTheGod
08-08-2016, 05:16 PM
I'm definitely not Whistleblower, he seemed unstable and dangerous to the healthy community of p99 forum quest, also all hail Sirken praise staff, God emperor Rogean.
However I can report Whistleblower was banned permanently with no explanation. Maybe it had something to do with him claiming to be Juevento after guide Llandris' erroneous attempt to out his true identity. Which is amusing because the Holy Staff went so far as to compare IP addresses and make these claims... Which is probably why Whistleblower may have done some Lite (unforgivable) staff teasing which only would have been obvious had it been known he wasn't Juevento.
Everything he said about BDA was true. He was not Juevento, but he was a former member of BDA.
Godspeed Whistleblower,
You were short lived but you rustled hard
Rustled long into the dark night
Rustled staff, rustled friend and foe
Rustle in peace.
Once again I am a bystander. I have committed no sins here. I love Sir Ken, Emperor Rogean, Swish, and Braknar.
Pras Emperor Rogean, hail the Godson Braknar, salute to Sir-the-Ken
arsenalpow
08-08-2016, 06:06 PM
BDA is dying because the leadership forces the "casual" masses to raid every day. Literally. People burning out do chest and officers continue getting best loot
yup, straight up dying
ToV cleared last week, ToV will be cleared again this week, AoW down two weeks in a row, and I didn't even get Vulak loot. I'm furious.
Hevie
08-08-2016, 06:45 PM
Rotations are worse than the FTE pandemic here.
AzzarTheGod
08-08-2016, 06:59 PM
chest used to visit threads, drink beers, get high
now he visits threads, and gets cracked in the eye
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