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Daywolf
07-08-2016, 12:17 AM
Raw video:
https://youtu.be/W21izCNTNMQ
https://youtu.be/M-HB5Grtdhc
https://youtu.be/TnqZadaY-yE
https://youtu.be/_D3sxrOYgAo

Dallas Police Officers Get Shot During A Protest On Live TV (https://youtu.be/93QTRR4l9VA) faux ners

"But right now" (https://youtu.be/CyJ5wDXTVPc?t=71) 0bama fanning the flames for battlefield America.

Pokesan
07-08-2016, 12:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g37HT4-EtzE

http://hiphopdx.com/news/id.39532/title.joey-badassgovernment-race-war

Tankdan
07-08-2016, 12:49 AM
Suspect - black male 6 foot tall


Goodluck.jpeg

Tankdan
07-08-2016, 12:53 AM
Fox News just showed video of the suspect running up to cop 3 feet away and assassinating him... wow

fash
07-08-2016, 12:55 AM
These black lives matter animals have been calling for riots and protests all day on twitter. I'm almost not surprised at this point.

"But right now" (https://youtu.be/CyJ5wDXTVPc?t=71) 0bama fanning the flames for battlefield America.

He even blantly lies in this video saying that data shows that black folks are more "vulnerable" to these kinds of incidents (whatever vulnerable means). The data shows the opposite... that police are less likely to shoot blacks for fear of backlash in this atmosphere of race baiting by the US president and media. There have been a few recent cases where police were explicitly told to back down in light of riots and protests.

Or maybe more diversity will help improve community trust and social cohesion?

Pokesan
07-08-2016, 01:02 AM
http://i.imgur.com/hZx5BoH.png

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 01:05 AM
http://i.imgur.com/hZx5BoH.png

hall of famer

Tankdan
07-08-2016, 01:15 AM
here is the very NSFW pixelated video, dont click if you dont wanna see cop get closed in on and assassinated.


https://twitter.com/seguifox13/status/751278909895745537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Lune
07-08-2016, 01:26 AM
Im voting for Trump

AzzarTheGod
07-08-2016, 01:27 AM
I'm questioning the legitimacy of that video.

fash
07-08-2016, 01:30 AM
Im voting for Trump

or vote Hillary for four more years of race baiting speeches like,

"But right now" (https://youtu.be/CyJ5wDXTVPc?t=71) 0bama fanning the flames for battlefield America.

Daywolf
07-08-2016, 01:31 AM
So, multiple shooters. Big manhunt on, and talk of bombs planted etc.
On a side note (http://www.pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/314304-193157-man-with-gun-arrested-at-police-violence-protest), guy was caught with a gun at the protest in Oregon, arrested.

Pokesan
07-08-2016, 01:31 AM
Im voting for Trump

Ahldagor
07-08-2016, 01:42 AM
Trump to burn it all down?

AzzarTheGod
07-08-2016, 01:49 AM
So, multiple shooters. Big manhunt on, and talk of bombs planted etc.
On a side note (http://www.pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/314304-193157-man-with-gun-arrested-at-police-violence-protest), guy was caught with a gun at the protest in Oregon, arrested.

Caught with a gun?? What the Fuck does that mean???

Weird.

Lune
07-08-2016, 01:49 AM
Trump to burn it all down?

Trump is a fucking clown and so are most of the moron supporters that buy his rhetoric.

But BLM and this week's events have made this a single issue election for me. Trump isn't going to fix shit, he's a joke, but him winning is a step toward rekindling American nationalism and knocking out this rotten multicultural shit and tolerance for things that should not be tolerated.

Daywolf
07-08-2016, 02:04 AM
Caught with a gun?? What the Fuck does that mean???

Weird.
It's west coast, gun laws are more stringent, especially in the cities. imo, under the circumstances, taking a gun to a west coast protest is likely someone with intent. I do not support gun free zones, making that clear, but it was a gun free zone in that law-abiding citizens would have had no way to defend themselves if/when this guy decided to unload into them. imo gun-free zones are the most dangerous places to be in, and we cant count on cops to detour them all when it only takes one.

Pokesan
07-08-2016, 02:08 AM
i'm scared like 9/11

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 02:16 AM
he's a joke, but him winning is a step toward rekindling American nationalism and knocking out this rotten multicultural shit and tolerance for things that should not be tolerated.

dont have much to add but that I saw a physical copy of this in a bookstore a few days ago (80% off sale)

http://i.imgur.com/2gkFDxS.jpg

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 02:38 AM
Wow, didn't realize it was 4 officers killed tonight. 11 shot.

Can't say I'm surprised it finally happened -- the only livestream of a BLM protest I have bothered watching included a dude standing feet from officers screaming "we are going to kill you" repeatedly with the officers too scared of bad optics to do anything about open threats.

Daywolf
07-08-2016, 03:01 AM
Wow, didn't realize it was 4 officers killed tonight. 11 shot.

Can't say I'm surprised it finally happened -- the only livestream of a BLM protest I have bothered watching included a dude standing feet from officers screaming "we are going to kill you" repeatedly with the officers too scared of bad optics to do anything about open threats.I tried a live stream, but it was just CNN downplaying it trying to detach the gunmen from any connection to the protest or BLM etc. Waiting for the Don to be blamed... conservatives, christians, middle-aged white males and anyone that supports the 1st, 2nd and 10th amendment.

I'm hearing on the radio of reports of a shootout between police and one of the shooters threatening to set off bombs. Yeah here it is: Three shooters are in custody but the fourth is still engaged in a shootout with police and says 'the end is coming' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3680097/Protests-sweep-nation-thousands-demand-justice-Alton-Sterling-Philando-Castile-black-men-shot-dead-police.html) "Three of them are in custody but another is still engaged in a shootout with police. The remaining gunman, who is holed up in a parking garage, told officers bombs have been planted across Dallas and that 'the end is coming'."


Tomorrows NY Post but they need to add another cop to the death toll now. It's 5 dead now.
http://i.imgur.com/I1lZw2S.jpg?1

Domo
07-08-2016, 03:03 AM
I dont live in the USA, but I think something like this happend already few times in the USA right?
I think more guns will slove this problem.

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 03:06 AM
I tried a live stream, but it was just CNN downplaying it trying to detach the gunmen from any connection to the protest or BLM etc. Waiting for the Don to be blamed... conservatives, christians, middle-aged white males and anyone that supports the 1st, 2nd and 10th amendment.

I'm hearing on the radio of reports of a shootout between police and one of the shooters threatening to set off bombs.

Tomorrows NY Post but they need to add another cop to the death toll now. It's 5 dead now.
http://i.imgur.com/I1lZw2S.jpg?1


yeah when I say livestream I mean a citizen streaming from his phone, not a stream of a Soros affiliate's broadcast.

Turp
07-08-2016, 03:11 AM
Karma . . .

Civil war lol? Nah that is what we need. Instead the blacks think this is a black only thing. So this is a race war.

Really blacks do just tend to be more criminal (due to the culture and music) so they end up in the situation of running into the cops more.
But whites / homeless / mexican EVERYrace has been murdered by a cop.

This is a Government / Policy issue not a race , and until the blacks realize that (they won't because the media feeds race war) we will never change. Expect shit to get worse.
The gov keep us fighting with each other why they "rape" us of civil liberties and rob us blind , and they perpetuate the race war through the main stream media.
Cops are trained to shoot to kill, not disarm or shoot you in the leg/arm. It is ridiculous + add in arming them with tanks and military style gear and this is the end result.
#NaziPolice are starting to outnumber the good old police left. Mostly the young officers are the ones scared shitless and never should be a cop.

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 03:26 AM
It is ridiculous + add in arming them with tanks and military style gear and this is the end result.
#NaziPolice are starting to outnumber the good old police left. Mostly the young officers are the ones scared shitless and never should be a cop.

And with socially engineered unrest generating results this catastrophic it becomes completely necessary to have police departments operate and equip this way (and ramp up surveillance). Don't get me wrong I see zogbots for the useful idiots they are, and ultimately that willful stupidity does earn them the place on the karmic wheel they get, but god damn it still sickens me to see the way good intentions are subverted in this country.

jarshale
07-08-2016, 03:30 AM
I saw some footage of one of the shooters taking out someone who was assumed to be a plains clothes officer. It was some paramilitary shit. I'm not around here much anymore, but I just wanted to tell you guys to stay safe out there because some crazy things are happening.

Daywolf
07-08-2016, 03:39 AM
I dont live in the USA, but I think something like this happend already few times in the USA right?

No, not like this. There were terrible incidents where gunmen shot anything that moved, but this was an orchestrated assault in a downtown city on police by a group/cell of people.

I think more guns will slove this problem.What problem? How is that (I know what you meant) going to stop our government from race baiting us into some twisted war? I flat out blame 0bama for this, that leftist puppet for the globalists.

Make national gun cleaning day great again.

Bazia
07-08-2016, 03:42 AM
feels good living in an all white town

zero of these problems

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 03:50 AM
feels good living in an all white town

zero of these problems

AzzarTheGod
07-08-2016, 04:17 AM
feels good living in a penthouse suite in a building block that's near a capital in a major city with rent higher than the fucking snowcaps for at least a quarter mile patrolled by both Capital Police and city PD.

zero of these problems


FTFM (Fixed that 4 me)

AzzarTheGod
07-08-2016, 04:23 AM
Trump is a fucking clown and so are most of the moron supporters that buy his rhetoric.

But BLM and this week's events have made this a single issue election for me. Trump isn't going to fix shit, he's a joke, but him winning is a step toward rekindling American nationalism and knocking out this rotten multicultural shit and tolerance for things that should not be tolerated.

*embraces Lune*

Welcome, comrade.

i'm scared like 9/11

Does that mean you are going to do the right thing as well then?

Sidelle
07-08-2016, 04:56 AM
http://i.imgur.com/lcWqpEc.jpg

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 05:12 AM
FTFM (Fixed that 4 me)

Lot of words for "i cant venture more than a few blocks out of my fortified compound w/o fear"

not one black ghetto within 100 miles here, maybe further. pras

beyondinfin
07-08-2016, 05:16 AM
Blame Canada.

pathius41
07-08-2016, 05:18 AM
I can not put into words how angry and sick news like this makes me.

I have never been a racist, I went to a predominantly black school in Milwaukee, had many black friends, and my family has never been racist. However the more these so called BLM protestors pull this crap and our leader refuses to call it what it is I find myself having bad thoughts. They aren't helping their cause, in fact I think BLM is creating more racists than existed before BLM. If this keeps up I am afraid there will be civil war.

fash
07-08-2016, 05:19 AM
Trump isn't going to fix shit, he's a joke, but him winning is a step toward rekindling American nationalism and knocking out this rotten multicultural shit and tolerance for things that should not be tolerated.

This guy gets it.

Most important thing Trump can do is bring a sense of nationalism that's been lacking and even discouraged by Obama as seen is his speeches today, which feed the multicultural agenda. Trump'll surely fuck many things up, but if he does nothing other than encourage greatness in American citizens, that's a far cry better than the pandering and unreasonable tolerance we've seen from Obama, Hillary, and Sanders.

bubur
07-08-2016, 05:37 AM
1 suspect in Dallas shooting killed. I just wanna know race and religion so I can fit it into predetermined arguments and post on elf sim community

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 05:57 AM
I can not put into words how angry and sick news like this makes me.

I have never been a racist, I went to a predominantly black school in Milwaukee, had many black friends, and my family has never been racist. However the more these so called BLM protestors pull this crap and our leader refuses to call it what it is I find myself having bad thoughts. They aren't helping their cause, in fact I think BLM is creating more racists than existed before BLM. If this keeps up I am afraid there will be civil war.

It's not something intrinsically wrong with blacks, but the callous exploitation of human superficiality to divide and conquer. Certain conclusions you might draw from that about the stability of an amalgamated nation could earn you the label "racist" as it's thrown around in modern parlance (borders be rayciss), but if you let this shit drive you to actually hate black people the psyops worked.

Honkies are more than stupid enough to allow zog to lead them by the nose too, that's for sure.

AzzarTheGod
07-08-2016, 06:18 AM
Lot of words for "i cant venture more than a few blocks out of my fortified compound w/o fear"

not one black ghetto within 100 miles here, maybe further. pras

this is true im confined 2 a cellblock



Honkies are more than stupid enough to allow zog to lead them by the nose too, that's for sure.

mention of zog. obligatory requote (no upboat available).

Jarnauga
07-08-2016, 07:19 AM
American patriots defending themselves against an oppressive government thanks to their god-given-2nd-amendment-rights..! :D

maskedmelon
07-08-2016, 07:24 AM
Creative strategy to pull moderates and left fringe conservatives on board the gun control lobby: make police the victims.

Ahldagor
07-08-2016, 08:02 AM
Trump is a fucking clown and so are most of the moron supporters that buy his rhetoric.

But BLM and this week's events have made this a single issue election for me. Trump isn't going to fix shit, he's a joke, but him winning is a step toward rekindling American nationalism and knocking out this rotten multicultural shit and tolerance for things that should not be tolerated.

Trump won't inspire any sense of nationalism because his narcissism and self centered behaviors are obvious. Guy's a salesman through and through and he knows that being president will secure your wealth, income, investments, and occupation. It's not multiculturalism that caused last nights events either. I'd be willing to guess it's a mixture of impatience and ignorance. It's the move a jack assed narcissist does in order to make a difference, but their actions only point to them at a center. Get some like minded individuals involved and there you go.

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 08:03 AM
Im voting for Trump

That red pill! Welcome friend.

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 08:05 AM
Creative strategy to pull moderates and left fringe conservatives on board the gun control lobby: make police the victims.

This is just the beginning. Civil unrest will be the reason for any disarmament not some random shooting. When people freak out and start killing each other over shit like this they will say we cant be responsible with our guns :(

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 08:14 AM
It's not something intrinsically wrong with blacks, but the callous exploitation of human superficiality to divide and conquer. Certain conclusions you might draw from that about the stability of an amalgamated nation could earn you the label "racist" as it's thrown around in modern parlance (borders be rayciss), but if you let this shit drive you to actually hate black people the psyops worked.

Honkies are more than stupid enough to allow zog to lead them by the nose too, that's for sure.

Nah bro there is definitely something wrong with blacks. Average IQ of 85 and being prone to violence makes it impossible to build anything lasting. I cant think of a single culture they have successfully integrated with. There is a reason cops freak out on these people and its not just white cops. Too bad they dont have someone like Malcolm X trying to advocate for their own place to be anymore. Now they just want to take down white culture and turn it into another ghetto.

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 08:16 AM
Trump won't inspire any sense of nationalism because his narcissism and self centered behaviors are obvious. Guy's a salesman through and through and he knows that being president will secure your wealth, income, investments, and occupation. It's not multiculturalism that caused last nights events either. I'd be willing to guess it's a mixture of impatience and ignorance. It's the move a jack assed narcissist does in order to make a difference, but their actions only point to them at a center. Get some like minded individuals involved and there you go.

How is it not multiculturalism at fault? If there were no blacks for cops to shoot then there would be no black reactionaries. Literally the easiest way to avoid racial conflicts is to avoid race mixing.

Jarnauga
07-08-2016, 08:34 AM
How is it not multiculturalism at fault? If there were no blacks for cops to shoot then there would be no black reactionaries. Literally the easiest way to avoid racial conflicts is to avoid race mixing.

Glad you guys evolved in the past 50 years

https://i.imgur.com/5uNE3lo.jpg

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 08:39 AM
Glad you guys evolved in the past 50 years

https://i.imgur.com/5uNE3lo.jpg

Please show me how those people were wrong? Please explain how jamming people from opposing groups together is somehow beneficial.

Recently they have begun to desegregate prisons and are finding out that its causing nothing but unnecessary violence. All because of some political ideology that wants people to hold hands.

Jarnauga
07-08-2016, 09:15 AM
So what you guys think about David Duke ?

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 09:17 AM
Islam influencing the BLM crowd, blacks are being targeted for recruitment. Said this was gonna happen years ago.

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 09:17 AM
So what you guys think about David Duke ?

American Hero. One day I will look out on a vast white Utopia and tell the children how Dr. Duke stood up for his people as we celebrate the parades on David Duke Dr.

http://i.imgur.com/7GUrZgJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Qc2DRTN.jpg

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 09:21 AM
Our children will fight this War. Thanks, progressives

Ahldagor
07-08-2016, 09:29 AM
How is it not multiculturalism at fault? If there were no blacks for cops to shoot then there would be no black reactionaries. Literally the easiest way to avoid racial conflicts is to avoid race mixing.

Because the snipers acted out of anger towards white people and especially white cops. That's racism not multiculturalism. Did you listen to press conference from the Dallas mayor and police chief that concluded not too long ago?

Ahldagor
07-08-2016, 09:31 AM
American Hero. One day I will look out on a vast white Utopia and tell the children how Dr. Duke stood up for his people as we celebrate the parades on David Duke Dr.

http://i.imgur.com/7GUrZgJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Qc2DRTN.jpg

You really have no clue how much emphasis was put on strength regardless of race in the 3rd Reich.

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 09:32 AM
Because the snipers acted out of anger towards white people and especially white cops. That's racism not multiculturalism. Did you listen to press conference from the Dallas mayor and police chief that concluded not too long ago?

Racism is a result of multiculturalism. This isnt chicken or the egg here. If we didnt have a multicultural society there would be fewer incidents of racism. Pretty basic. The fact you are arguing this shows you have some vested interest in a multicultural worldview.

maskedmelon
07-08-2016, 09:36 AM
Racism is a result of multiculturalism. This isnt chicken or the egg here. If we didnt have a multicultural society there would be fewer incidents of racism. Pretty basic. The fact you are arguing this shows you have some vested interest in a multicultural worldview.

I would say intolerance is a result of multi-culturalism, not racism. Racism is alive and well in many tolerant societies. The societies are just secure in the dominance of their identity and do not see different peoples as a threat as a result of that security.

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 09:52 AM
Racism is only an issue for multi-ethnic societies. Intolerance can exist within a monoethnic society such as with issues of religion or sexuality although those issues are less prevalent than race related ones.

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 10:00 AM
Just some protesters that want nothing but peace and solidarity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNxoeqf0Ws

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 10:02 AM
They just released an image of the first suspect.

http://i.imgur.com/kQ8qDuR.jpg

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 10:11 AM
Mastermind behind the attack

maskedmelon
07-08-2016, 10:19 AM
Racism is only an issue for multi-ethnic societies.
Generally speaking yes and that is my point. There are plenty of homogenous societies (dare I say most) who believe at least superficially in superiority of their people.

Intolerance can exist within a monoethnic society such as with issues of religion or sexuality although those issues are less prevalent than race related ones.

Certainly, but there again the intolerance is a function multiculturalism. Culture is not defined exclusively by race. You can and do have conflicting cultures within the same ethnic group.

maskedmelon
07-08-2016, 10:23 AM
They just released an image of the first suspect.

http://i.imgur.com/kQ8qDuR.jpg

You trying to see how many of your accounts you can get banned in a week with images?

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 10:24 AM
You trying to see how many of your accounts you can get banned in a week with images?

Ive never been banned.

Jarnauga
07-08-2016, 10:40 AM
this thread is probably driven by the liberal media to convince the world how trump is a racist faggot

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 10:47 AM
The old gun debate flaring up again now. Dems on TV "why wont the republicans open up a debate on the gun issue with us" When will the dems allow us to open the debate on the coonmando problem? There wouldnt be much need for a gun debate if we disarmed the most violent and criminal segment of our society. What blows my mind is that cop in MN managed to kill the one Harambe on the planet with a gun license.

Raev
07-08-2016, 10:56 AM
Trump is a fucking clown and so are most of the moron supporters that buy his rhetoric.

But BLM and this week's events have made this a single issue election for me. Trump isn't going to fix shit, he's a joke, but him winning is a step toward rekindling American nationalism and knocking out this rotten multicultural shit and tolerance for things that should not be tolerated.

This has been my position on Trump from the beginning; glad to see you on board Lune!

Hasbinbad
07-08-2016, 11:05 AM
I hope most of you die soon and horribly.

surron
07-08-2016, 11:08 AM
Hillary ordered this ayo #deflection

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 11:11 AM
I hope most of you die soon and horribly.

http://i.imgur.com/2J0mZ5i.jpg

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 11:15 AM
I hope most of you die soon and horribly.

You been "rustled"

Daywolf
07-08-2016, 11:26 AM
I hope most of you die soon and horribly.
Full retard alert! >.>

http://i.imgur.com/rFrL3jy.gif?1

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 11:29 AM
Cant wait for HBB to get a helicopter ride over the wall. Maybe his Mexican flag will act as a parachute.

Karkona
07-08-2016, 11:41 AM
The country is possessed with black grievance. This will lift your spirits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA0CjEWOPj4

Daywolf
07-08-2016, 11:43 AM
Cant wait for HBB to get a helicopter ride over the wall. Maybe his Mexican flag will act as a parachute.
Raw video inc of HBB making his way over the wall

http://i.imgur.com/ATpz0gV.gif?1

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 11:44 AM
^LMAO

Jarnauga
07-08-2016, 12:02 PM
Just sayin, if these cops were armed they wouldn't have died

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 12:06 PM
Just sayin, if these cops were armed they wouldn't have died

Perhaps if they treated BLM like a terrorist organization this wouldnt have happened. That harambe in the video above was up there yesterday talking about how he fears for jews and blacks because of white nationalist websites yet for months all we have seen is violent minority uprisings urged on by Soros funded groups like BLM. Seems to be a disconnect between reality and their anti-white rhetoric. I mean shit they targeted white cops and the cop that shot Philando Calrissian was Asian.

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 12:28 PM
Who's HBB?

Daywolf
07-08-2016, 12:50 PM
So they released one name: Micah Xavier Johnson. They don't want to release anything other than that they say. I wonder what the chances are he's a black-muslim. He was upset with BLM, sounds like they were not bloody enough for him. Police say he was saying/yelling "the end is coming", sounds like Mahdi which isis is saying is about to happen.

Considering how the gov handled the situation in Orlando, I wonder if they have gotten better now at changing facts to fit the naritive,

Safon
07-08-2016, 01:12 PM
Anytime I want the racist's view of an issue this forum never fails to disappoint.

Stay gold P99

Daywolf
07-08-2016, 01:30 PM
Anytime I want the racist's view of an issue this forum never fails to disappoint.

Stay gold P99
What? You bringing your racist view? Or you just commenting on the gunmans racism? Yeah, he was a black-power racist. There is blm crying for more dearh. isis is sending messages of approval. Likely we are only being fed narrative from the gov at this point as 0bama and Soros wants war in the US. Maybe you should try quotes.

Alarti0001
07-08-2016, 01:34 PM
What? You bringing your racist view? Or you just commenting on the gunmans racism? Yeah, he was a black-power racist. There is blm crying for more dearh. isis is sending messages of approval. Likely we are only being fed narrative from the gov at this point as 0bama and Soros wants war in the US. Maybe you should try quotes.

561 known people killed by police this year: "Don't Blame all cops".
5 Dallas cops killed last night: Blame Obama & the entire BLM movement


Daywolf defined.

Redi
07-08-2016, 01:36 PM
Real sad

Ahldagor
07-08-2016, 01:49 PM
Army reservist and he acted of his own accord which was admitted in talks during the standoff.

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 01:55 PM
561 known people killed by police this year: "Don't Blame all cops".
5 Dallas cops killed last night: Blame Obama & the entire BLM movement


Daywolf defined.

It's good to have all the facts when quoting statistics, sheepboy.

Did you know that you're far more likely to be shot and killed by police if you're white than if you're black?

In 2016, there are been 566 people killed by police. Of those, 136 were black. Last year, 306 of the 1,146 people killed by police were black. Once again, the largest race group affected were whites.

Did you know that 0.000178 percent (566) of the U.S. population has been killed by police so far this year?

And in the entirety of 2015, 0.00036 percent (1,146) of the population was killed by police. Don't get me wrong; I'm not trivializing the number. We are talking about human lives here. Still, I just want to give some perspective--especially in light of the fact that our media, social activists and politicians would have us think that use of deadly force by police is commonplace. It's not.

Did you know of the 566 people killed by police in 2016, 14 percent (82) were unarmed?

And of the 82 unarmed, 25 were black. Does that jibe with what the president said when he told us that the recent officer involved shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana are "symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system"?

Farrakhan, LAST NIGHT
"When you are willing and not afraid anymore to pay the price for freedom -- don't let this white man tell you that violence is wrong," Farrakhan said. "Every damn thing that he got, he got it by being violent -- killing people, raping and robbing and murdering. He's doing it as we speak, and then he has the nerve to come and tell us that violence and hatred won't get it. Don't buy that!"

Speaking about white people as one entity, Farrakhan proclaimed, "He is worthy to be hated." He also claimed that "God hates," and man is no better than God.

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 02:01 PM
I will end the war in Iraq

Then he /whispered

"I will bring it here." Barack Hussein Obama

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 02:06 PM
Crazy they used a robot with a bomb to kill one of the suspects. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dallas-police-ambush/dallas-police-used-robot-bomb-kill-ambush-suspect-mayor-n605896

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 02:07 PM
I want 1 week of a police Strike every cop in America calls in sick.

GetRDone

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 02:08 PM
I want 1 week of a police Strike ever cop in America calls in sick.

GetRDone

That would be interesting. Then we would get martial law.

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 02:12 PM
That would be interesting. Then we would get martial law.

Purge baby, I call dibs on the media elites. Lol

khanable
07-08-2016, 02:23 PM
Trump is a fucking clown and so are most of the moron supporters that buy his rhetoric.

But BLM and this week's events have made this a single issue election for me. Trump isn't going to fix shit, he's a joke, but him winning is a step toward rekindling American nationalism and knocking out this rotten multicultural shit and tolerance for things that should not be tolerated.

This is exactly where I've more or less been for a few weeks now

pickled_heretic
07-08-2016, 02:24 PM
idgaf about texas or anything that happens there, but what just happened in minnesota has seriously rustled the fuck out of my jimmies

who the fuck do these cops think they are

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 02:46 PM
idgaf about texas or anything that happens there, but what just happened in minnesota has seriously rustled the fuck out of my jimmies

who the fuck do these cops think they are

Don't be a dumbass and tell a cop you have a gun and start reaching around your vehicle

pickled_heretic
07-08-2016, 02:49 PM
as a card carrying gun owner it is both my right to carry firearms concealed on my person and my responsibility to inform police officers that i am carrying a firearm when approached by them

it is the officer's responsibility to not fucking shoot me for following the fucking law

surron
07-08-2016, 03:06 PM
wheres the media's outrage over "assault weapons"

i dont get it...

muslim kills a bunch of gay dudes and its the guns fault

black guy kills a bunch of cops and its white peoples fault

barrettdc1
07-08-2016, 03:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/OryZrS8.jpg

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 03:31 PM
This is exactly where I've more or less been for a few weeks now

You're about 9 months past the point where all the required info was available to make this decision, but I still welcome you.

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 03:34 PM
as a card carrying gun owner it is both my right to carry firearms concealed on my person and my responsibility to inform police officers that i am carrying a firearm when approached by them

it is the officer's responsibility to not fucking shoot me for following the fucking law

It's your responsibility to act cautiously and deliberate as well as making sure that officer is not threatened with your actions.

You say, " I have a gun" to a cop you know that's a fucking "Trigger" term that makes cops go crazy.

Use proper verbiage " Firearm " and make sure you act appropriate and you won't "usually" get shot.

Aviann
07-08-2016, 03:36 PM
Got pulled over with my brother the other day, cop asked if we had firearms, we told him yes that it was under the driver seat and under the backseat, he asked what kind, we said a Glock in the front, a 20 gauge in the back, he asked to see them and said it was ok for us to grab them, then asked us to put it in the back of the truck... We sat there for about 30 minutes talking about all the cool guns we had.

He let us off with a warning. 66 in a 55 is dangerous yall.

AzzarTheGod
07-08-2016, 03:38 PM
Creative strategy to pull moderates and left fringe conservatives on board the gun control lobby: make police the victims.

khanable
07-08-2016, 03:48 PM
I recall during drivers education we were instructed to keep both hands on the wheel and state your movements clearly before doing them, e.g., "My license is in my wallet in my back pocket, I'm going to reach into my back pocket to retrieve it". Do so once the officer acknowledges it. Is this just not taught anymore or are people just dumb?

Dunno where anyone gets off thinking they can be like "oh hey I have a gun lol" and then start making sudden movements.

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 03:49 PM
It helps if you dont sound like Master P and Mushmouth had a baby.

AzzarTheGod
07-08-2016, 04:06 PM
You're about 9 months past the point where all the required info was available to make this decision,

pickled_heretic
07-08-2016, 04:07 PM
i've been pulled over with a literal pile of sporterized firearms sitting in my pickup on the way back from the range. other than wasting 30 minutes of my life while the officer ran checks on the serial numbers of all the firearms, i was nothing worse off for it. regardless, i don't want to die because some fucking stupid cop is crazy and/or having a bad day and reacts poorly to a completely legal behavior.

Spyder73
07-08-2016, 04:18 PM
I live in the Dallas area - honestly never expect this to happen here. I am very much a "F the police" kind of guy, but i would never wish this type of harm on anyone. The sickest part is the BLM twitter trolls encouraging this to happen again in other cities. As sad as it is that these officers (some 20 year old kids) died needlessly, maybe the police will wake up and realize we do not live in soviet Russia, they are not soldiers, and they are not afforded gestapo-like privileges when dealing with the public.

#OneLove

Pokesan
07-08-2016, 04:32 PM
I live in the Dallas area - honestly never expect this to happen here. I am very much a "F the police" kind of guy, but i would never wish this type of harm on anyone. The sickest part is the BLM twitter trolls encouraging this to happen again in other cities. As sad as it is that these officers (some 20 year old kids) died needlessly, maybe the police will wake up and realize we do not live in soviet Russia, they are not soldiers, and they are not afforded gestapo-like privileges when dealing with the public.

#OneLove

or maybe dont murder cops??

Rattle Squirrell
07-08-2016, 04:33 PM
I personally think the main problem right now is how everyone is upset that you have certain people that are reacting differently to the police shootings than to the shooting of black people with cops.

I personally don't have alot of remorse for a criminal resisting arrest, on probation, with a rap sheet 3 pages long getting shot when he clearly is attacking officers.....

I didn't see the point of shooting the guy in the passenger seat of his car.....but i didn't see the full story. Just the video started after the fact.

However, I do know these cops last night were not doing anything but their jobs and were being picked off one by one. That is a tragedy in my opinion.

Alarti0001
07-08-2016, 04:34 PM
It's good to have all the facts when quoting statistics, sheepboy.

Did you know that you're far more likely to be shot and killed by police if you're white than if you're black?

In 2016, there are been 566 people killed by police. Of those, 136 were black. Last year, 306 of the 1,146 people killed by police were black. Once again, the largest race group affected were whites.



I had to stop here because you are just so INHERENTLY stupid.

136/566 = 24% So in 2016 24% of people killed by the police were black... yet the Black population is as 12.2-12.4% of the US.


If white deaths made up the same raiton as black deaths based on their population (63% of the USA). There would need to have been 713 white people killed in 2016 alone.

So no.. its FAR more likely to be killed by the police as a black person than a white person.

BASIC FUCKING MATH.

Also I think the percent of police killing was around 50% for whites.. which actually demonstrate that whites are less likely than their population dictates to be killed by cops.

pickled_heretic
07-08-2016, 04:34 PM
texas may as well be fucking syria for all i care about it

but minnesota man that hits close to home

Rattle Squirrell
07-08-2016, 04:35 PM
texas may as well be fucking syria for all i care about it

but minnesota man that hits close to home

you're tryin hard to get a rise out of Texans huh? lol. Keep fishing.

pickled_heretic
07-08-2016, 04:43 PM
not at all, i'm just telling you that just like texans don't give a fuck about "not-texas," most of the world also doesn't give a fuck about them either

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 05:09 PM
I had to stop here because you are just so INHERENTLY stupid.

136/566 = 24% So in 2016 24% of people killed by the police were black... yet the Black population is as 12.2-12.4% of the US.


If white deaths made up the same raiton as black deaths based on their population (63% of the USA). There would need to have been 713 white people killed in 2016 alone.

So no.. its FAR more likely to be killed by the police as a black person than a white person.

BASIC FUCKING MATH.

Also I think the percent of police killing was around 50% for whites.. which actually demonstrate that whites are less likely than their population dictates to be killed by cops.

You're not adjusting for Black criminality or even "socioeconomics" in any way so you're hardly doing any better.

Pokesan
07-08-2016, 05:42 PM
You're not adjusting for Black criminality or even "socioeconomics" in any way so you're hardly doing any better.

could you post the adjusted figures for how many blacks should be killed by police, based on encounter rate?

Alarti0001
07-08-2016, 05:51 PM
You're not adjusting for Black criminality or even "socioeconomics" in any way so you're hardly doing any better.

I'm doing alot better. Please demonstrate criminality rates you think conflict, and we can debate whether or not those crimes would have been ignored if they weren't black or not. In the end. Simple fact is some moron claimed you are more likely to be killed as a white by the police than a black.... I've proven conclusively that it's very very false.

fash
07-08-2016, 06:12 PM
I'm doing alot better. Please demonstrate criminality rates you think conflict, and we can debate whether or not those crimes would have been ignored if they weren't black or not. In the end. Simple fact is some moron claimed you are more likely to be killed as a white by the police than a black.... I've proven conclusively that it's very very false.

Do you really think there are no differences between groups of people on the aggregate? Give me a break.

Victimization surveys indicate black people commit more crimes, disproportionate to the population difference. In other words, if you ask the victims of crime, they indicate they've been victims of crime by blacks at a rate disproportionate to black population. ( http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus08.pdf search for "race of offender". Interesting side note, they stopped publishing race of offender stats when Obama got into office. They recently started publishing the data (they've always been tracking it, just not publishing) but I can't find the 2015 data atm)

You believe that a higher rate of black arrests indicates racism. Would it surprise you to know that this racial disparity is completely accounted for after including covariates for self-reported lifetime violence and IQ? (source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/256079484_No_evidence_of_racial_discrimination_in_ criminal_justice_processing_Results_from_the_Natio nal_Longitudinal_Study_of_Adolescent_Health )

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 06:18 PM
I'm doing alot better. Please demonstrate criminality rates you think conflict, and we can debate whether or not those crimes would have been ignored if they weren't black or not. In the end. Simple fact is some moron claimed you are more likely to be killed as a white by the police than a black.... I've proven conclusively that it's very very false.



Candace McCoy is a criminologist at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York. McCoy said blacks might be more likely to have a violent encounter with police because they are convicted of felonies at a higher rate than whites. Felonies include everything from violent crimes like murder and rape, to property crimes like burglary and embezzlement, to drug trafficking and gun offenses.

The Bureau of Justice Statistics reported that in 2004, state courts had over 1 million felony convictions. Of those, 59 percent were committed by whites and 38 percent by blacks. But when you factor in the population of whites and blacks, the felony rates stand at 330 per 100,000 for whites and 1,178 per 100,000 for blacks. That’s more than a three-fold difference.

That is from referenced data within the following article at politifact http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/21/michael-medved/talk-show-host-police-kill-more-whites-blacks/

I ran across the above within the following article published yesterday from the Washington Times. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/

both articles mention how the data is insufficiently kept so your numbers probably were not accurate to begin with Allaharti.

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 06:23 PM
got these boys diggin up & requoting year-old mad l0l

seriously tho, a decent comparison of the relative rates of being killed by po po depends very much on how many encounters the populations in question have with police. Obviously a group of 12 gang members is more likely to be killed (by necessity) by police than 12 law-abiders, yes? So if you're refusing to account for this your analysis is made up political dogshit, not that I'm claiming I can provide a decent analysis myself on p99 forum from wikipedia. But I can do better than deliberately ignoring variables like Alarti here.

If blacks make up 12% of population but 35% of the incarcerated, a clumsy highly nonscientific ballpark would suggest they have 3x the encounters with police relative to general population. Yet they are only killed at 2x the rate of the general pop (24% of police killings). From these numbers you could suggest black people are in fact only 66.6% as likely to be killed by ZOG as nonblack relative to their rate of confrontation with it.

Your next argument will be to try to blame the entirety of the disparity in incarceration rate on systemic racism, but even then you're cutting corners. You need to adjust for the "socioeconomics" of blacks being generally poorer than Whites, and the increase in criminality that renders. And stopping there entails completely handwaving away the impacts of the cultures of different American racial groups on criminal behavior (hard to impossible to quantify, idiotic to pretend it has no impact though).

The truth is that racism probably does play a certain role in the increased incarceration rate, but if you are arguing that the very obvious glorification of violence and gang activity in American black culture has no effect on criminality you are retarded or arguing disingenuously. There are also other hypothetical effects I can't get into that are worth considering if you can do so anonymously.

So what do you think -- do blacks get wrongfully incarcerated due to racism so much more than 33% of the time that they not only break even with their White counterparts in likelihood of dying to police, but are more likely to be killed?

NegaStoat
07-08-2016, 06:31 PM
feels good living in an all white town

zero of these problems

I was slow to the thread, but this. My neighborhood is so damned quiet. It's awesome.


Use proper verbiage " Firearm " and make sure you act appropriate and you won't "usually" get shot.

This. I was pulled over for doing a mild rolling stop at an intersection while doing a bank run for the business I was the manager for at the time. I have a concealed weapons permit because they give them out like candy in Northern California, and I carried money from time to time. Anyway, kept my hands in plain sight, handed the officer the license, registration, and proof of insurance on the dot and included the permit, unasked for. The cop asked me if the weapon was present and I answered yes, along with the fact I was doing a bank run. He asked to see the pistol, was happy I was such a responsible human being for having everything expected of me, and gave me a warning when he had his ticket pad out and was ready to go to cite me. Felt so good.

Tradesonred
07-08-2016, 07:09 PM
America is fucked because of the prevalence of stupid racist fucks such as most posting in this thread. Its unfortunate that i live so close by if civil war part II breaks out because it will inevitably have consequences for neighbooring countries.

Rotten to the core, people blinded by racism, this will not end well

fash
07-08-2016, 07:14 PM
America is fucked because of the prevalence of stupid racist fucks such as black lives matter animals.

ftfy

AzzarTheGod
07-08-2016, 07:24 PM
ftfy

the dunks

Pokesan
07-08-2016, 07:30 PM
the dunks

calling them animals inhibits the barkley radiation of the dunk

Alarti0001
07-08-2016, 07:34 PM
Do you really think there are no differences between groups of people on the aggregate? Give me a break.

Victimization surveys indicate black people commit more crimes, disproportionate to the population difference. In other words, if you ask the victims of crime, they indicate they've been victims of crime by blacks at a rate disproportionate to black population. ( http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus08.pdf search for "race of offender". Interesting side note, they stopped publishing race of offender stats when Obama got into office. They recently started publishing the data (they've always been tracking it, just not publishing) but I can't find the 2015 data atm)

You believe that a higher rate of black arrests indicates racism. Would it surprise you to know that this racial disparity is completely accounted for after including covariates for self-reported lifetime violence and IQ? (source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/256079484_No_evidence_of_racial_discrimination_in_ criminal_justice_processing_Results_from_the_Natio nal_Longitudinal_Study_of_Adolescent_Health )

I guess I'll have to hold your hand and walk you through this one. This is a very good study btw. Santa take notes on how to link a scientific study.

What might be the strongest indicator of general education and exposure to lifetime violence? ....

Alarti0001
07-08-2016, 07:35 PM
Candace McCoy is a criminologist at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York. McCoy said blacks might be more likely to have a violent encounter with police because they are convicted of felonies at a higher rate than whites. Felonies include everything from violent crimes like murder and rape, to property crimes like burglary and embezzlement, to drug trafficking and gun offenses.

The Bureau of Justice Statistics reported that in 2004, state courts had over 1 million felony convictions. Of those, 59 percent were committed by whites and 38 percent by blacks. But when you factor in the population of whites and blacks, the felony rates stand at 330 per 100,000 for whites and 1,178 per 100,000 for blacks. That’s more than a three-fold difference.

That is from referenced data within the following article at politifact http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/21/michael-medved/talk-show-host-police-kill-more-whites-blacks/

I ran across the above within the following article published yesterday from the Washington Times. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/

both articles mention how the data is insufficiently kept so your numbers probably were not accurate to begin with Allaharti.

Cool information.. Unfortunately, it's raw fact and doesn't go into causality. Also, do you ever plan to link that transgender study or are you hiding from that thread now(as expected).

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 07:38 PM
I had to stop here because you are just so INHERENTLY stupid.

136/566 = 24% So in 2016 24% of people killed by the police were black... yet the Black population is as 12.2-12.4% of the US.


If white deaths made up the same raiton as black deaths based on their population (63% of the USA). There would need to have been 713 white people killed in 2016 alone.

So no.. its FAR more likely to be killed by the police as a black person than a white person.

BASIC FUCKING MATH.

Also I think the percent of police killing was around 50% for whites.. which actually demonstrate that whites are less likely than their population dictates to be killed by cops.

Obviously you read something into my post that doesn't exist.

Yes per capita more blacks get killed by cops then whites you dumbfuck, they have 70% fatherless homes, and what do good fathers teach their sons? SELF CONTROL, something black people as a WHOLE lack.

Blacks get killed by white cops because blacks lack self control and they are easily influenced by the most degenerate people in society (gangbangers) because they are looking for fathers and they find that bond in the gangs they join. Unfortunately those gangbangers are all PoS otherwise they wouldn't be gangbangers. Quit being a dumbass, and learn to accept the fact YOU "progressive" fucks are responsible for the Black poverty and the crime related to it in this country not to mention the shithole culture that the LEFTWING media glorifies.

Alarti0001
07-08-2016, 07:43 PM
Obviously you read something into my post that doesn't exist.

Yes per capita more blacks get killed by cops then whites you dumbfuck, they have 70% fatherless homes, and what do good fathers teach their sons? SELF CONTROL, something black people as a WHOLE lack.

Blacks get killed by white cops because blacks lack self control and they are easily influenced by the most degenerate people in society (gangbangers) because they are looking for fathers and they find that bond in the gangs they join. Unfortunately those gangbangers are all PoS otherwise they wouldn't be gangbangers. Quit being a dumbass, and learn to except the fact YOU "progressive" fucks are responsible for the Black poverty and the crime related to it in this country not to mention the shithole culture that the LEFTWING media glorifies.

Prove this. Sounds like racist mantra without evidence.

Also, you sound like you lack self control. Daddy left ya?

Pokesan
07-08-2016, 07:47 PM
Obviously you read something into my post that doesn't exist.

Yes per capita more blacks get killed by cops then whites you dumbfuck, they have 70% fatherless homes, and what do good fathers teach their sons? SELF CONTROL, something black people as a WHOLE lack.

Blacks get killed by white cops because blacks lack self control and they are easily influenced by the most degenerate people in society (gangbangers) because they are looking for fathers and they find that bond in the gangs they join. Unfortunately those gangbangers are all PoS otherwise they wouldn't be gangbangers. Quit being a dumbass, and learn to accept the fact YOU "progressive" fucks are responsible for the Black poverty and the crime related to it in this country not to mention the shithole culture that the LEFTWING media glorifies.

Your point is essentially "well it's their own fault"

Can anything useful be done with this idea?

Blitzers
07-08-2016, 07:57 PM
Prove this. Sounds like racist mantra without evidence.

Also, you sound like you lack self control. Daddy left ya?

Personally call it racist, bigoted, hate speech, or whatever. The evidence is LIFE EXPERIENCE. Being a father of 2 young boys shit gets out of hand real quick if you don't teach them self control, ain't no "crazy ass bitches" teaching that, lol. It's something only a Father can do. No citation needed, common sense speaks for itself.

< Father is a Marine and Vietnam Vet. parents going on 50 years of marriage this December.

AzzarTheGod
07-08-2016, 08:01 PM
Also, you sound like you lack self control. Daddy left ya?

Deploy radiation shields

fash
07-08-2016, 08:10 PM
What might be the strongest indicator of general education and exposure to lifetime violence? ....

Hang on there. That study concerned IQ and involvement in acts violence, not general education nor exposure to lifetime violence.

Regarding involvement in violence, I would wager single motherhood, abusive childhoods, and genetics. See below.

Regarding IQ, I can't really hazard a guess as to what's the strongest indicator. There are many environmental and genetic factors there.

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http://www.antoniocasella.eu/archipsy/Beaver_2013.pdf (this one doesn't explore single motherhood explicitly)

IIRC, there is a .8 or .9 correlation between divorce rates and violent crime based on per-city census bureau & fbi data (I forget the specifics). That's higher than correlation with either poverty rate, unemployment rate, or black population, which were all sub .5 correlation coefficient. If it's important I can try to dig up the source.

Archalen
07-08-2016, 09:57 PM
Obviously you read something into my post that doesn't exist.

Yes per capita more blacks get killed by cops then whites you dumbfuck, they have 70% fatherless homes, and what do good fathers teach their sons? SELF CONTROL, something black people as a WHOLE lack.

Blacks get killed by white cops because blacks lack self control and they are easily influenced by the most degenerate people in society (gangbangers) because they are looking for fathers and they find that bond in the gangs they join. Unfortunately those gangbangers are all PoS otherwise they wouldn't be gangbangers. Quit being a dumbass, and learn to accept the fact YOU "progressive" fucks are responsible for the Black poverty and the crime related to it in this country not to mention the shithole culture that the LEFTWING media glorifies.

I'm so glad you said this. This is the kind of thing I assume lies in the dark corners of many conservatives minds but they just won't come out and say it.

Alarti0001
07-08-2016, 10:08 PM
I'm so glad you said this. This is the kind of thing I assume lies in the dark corners of many conservatives minds but they just won't come out and say it.

Archalen
07-08-2016, 10:13 PM
Hang on there. That study concerned IQ and involvement in acts violence, not general education nor exposure to lifetime violence.

Regarding involvement in violence, I would wager single motherhood, abusive childhoods, and genetics. See below.

Regarding IQ, I can't really hazard a guess as to what's the strongest indicator. There are many environmental and genetic factors there.

----
http://www.antoniocasella.eu/archipsy/Beaver_2013.pdf (this one doesn't explore single motherhood explicitly)

IIRC, there is a .8 or .9 correlation between divorce rates and violent crime based on per-city census bureau & fbi data (I forget the specifics). That's higher than correlation with either poverty rate, unemployment rate, or black population, which were all sub .5 correlation coefficient. If it's important I can try to dig up the source.

You don't need to hazard a guess because there's a substantial body of evidence, early education programs for low income children have shown through years of meta analysis to have an effect on IQ of at least around 7 points. There are other factors as well obviously.

fash
07-08-2016, 10:18 PM
You don't need to hazard a guess because there's a substantial body of evidence, early education programs for low income children have shown through years of meta analysis to have an effect on IQ of at least around 7 points. There are other factors as well obviously.

He asked for the "strongest indicator" of IQ. An effect of at least around 7 IQ points doesn't fit that.

Archalen
07-08-2016, 10:25 PM
He asked for the "strongest indicator" of IQ. An effect of at least around 7 IQ points doesn't fit that.

Technically I believe the strongest indicator is the IQ of the mother, which is interesting and you can dig deeper into that. However, keep in mind that I said an early education program affected IQ by roughly that amount. It also seems to be affected by how much one attends school and the quality of the school. So education in general would be a different story.

Alarti0001
07-08-2016, 10:34 PM
He asked for the "strongest indicator" of IQ. An effect of at least around 7 IQ points doesn't fit that.

No I discount IQ as having any real importance. IQ isn't intelligence.

fash
07-08-2016, 10:51 PM
No I discount IQ as having any real importance. IQ isn't intelligence.

Indeed. You asked for strongest indicator of general education. Since the study concerned IQ, not general education, I changed the subject back to IQ. Misrepresented you there.

To your point about IQ not having any real importance, I would point you back to the same study that accounts for racial disparity in arrests with IQ and self-reported violence. IQ isn't intelligence, but it can assess intelligence.

Archalen
07-08-2016, 11:03 PM
And education influences IQ; poverty is an obstacle to both general child development and educational outcomes. See: Effect of poverty on childhood development and educational outcomes.

Daywolf
07-08-2016, 11:09 PM
Technically I believe the strongest indicator is the IQ of the mother, which is interesting and you can dig deeper into that. However, keep in mind that I said an early education program affected IQ by roughly that amount. It also seems to be affected by how much one attends school and the quality of the school. So education in general would be a different story.
It's cultural, or due to sub-culture to be exact. Race or quality of school (aint a class issue) doesn't have anything to do with the outcome. The US has been deeply divided into sub-cultures, making it easy pickings to conquer (divide and conquer) by the elites.
The Truth About 'Black Lives Matter' (https://youtu.be/sJHvppVEBTY)8m vid

Archalen
07-08-2016, 11:12 PM
It's cultural, or due to sub-culture to be exact. Race or quality of school (aint a class issue) doesn't have anything to do with the outcome. The US has been deeply divided into sub-cultures, making it easy pickings to conquer (divide and conquer) by the elites.
The Truth About 'Black Lives Matter' (https://youtu.be/sJHvppVEBTY)8m vid

Let me be clear, you are saying the strongest indicator of IQ is "sub-culture?" That's what I'm seeing. Just making sure.

Alarti0001
07-08-2016, 11:21 PM
Indeed. You asked for strongest indicator of general education. Since the study concerned IQ, not general education, I changed the subject back to IQ. Misrepresented you there.

To your point about IQ not having any real importance, I would point you back to the same study that accounts for racial disparity in arrests with IQ and self-reported violence. IQ isn't intelligence, but it can assess intelligence.

The study was also on adolescents.

Daywolf
07-08-2016, 11:23 PM
Let me be clear, you are saying the strongest indicator of IQ is "sub-culture?" That's what I'm seeing. Just making sure.
I linked an 8m vid, you replied in what 3m? I agree with what was said in the WSJ clip that's in the video.

Archalen
07-08-2016, 11:24 PM
By the way I agree in a tangential way to the second part of what you said. The elite sectors and concentrations of power do benefit from atomization of society because there is less show of solidarity and activism and pulling together of resources in an atomized society.

big_ole_jpn
07-08-2016, 11:26 PM
ne1 else ever realize that WSJ is a anagram for SJW before?

Archalen
07-08-2016, 11:33 PM
I linked an 8m vid, you replied in what 3m? I agree with what was said in the WSJ clip that's in the video.

If you can distill down what that has to do with IQ, education, and poverty that would be much appreciated. I watched the first 3 minutes and don't have a strong opinion about what he said (he was talking about BLM efficacy as an organization, not links between poverty and education and IQ), but instead of linking videos we can have the conversation here.

Lune
07-08-2016, 11:41 PM
Technically I believe the strongest indicator is the IQ of the mother, which is interesting and you can dig deeper into that. However, keep in mind that I said an early education program affected IQ by roughly that amount. It also seems to be affected by how much one attends school and the quality of the school. So education in general would be a different story.

And what governs access to early education? Income and culture. What governs income? Culture.

How would you explain the performance of Jews and Asians in the United States (Higher median income than whites, superior performance on standardized tests that correlate with IQ), if not culture?

The strongest indicator of IQ is culture. The values and behaviors in the environment in which you were raised affect you down to the way your prefrontal cortex is wired, modulating your cognition over a lifetime. For more on this, read about cases like Genie the feral child and Kaspar Hauser. Or any physiology text.

Nihilist_santa
07-08-2016, 11:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWzjn0N9g4g

IQ test!

barrettdc1
07-08-2016, 11:58 PM
In short, we need to round up all the blacks, browns, and yellers and kill em to preserve the great white hope.


WHITE POWA!

Archalen
07-09-2016, 12:02 AM
And what governs access to early education? Income and culture. What governs income? Culture.

How would you explain the performance of Jews and Asians in the United States (Higher median income than whites, superior performance on standardized tests that correlate with IQ), if not culture?

The strongest indicator of IQ is culture. The values and behaviors in the environment in which you were raised affect you down to the way your prefrontal cortex is wired, modulating your cognition over a lifetime. For more on this, read about cases like Genie the feral child and Kaspar Hauser. Or any physiology text.

The cognitive skills which IQ tests assess are valued and used differently across time and space. So yes, IQ scores will be impacted heavily by culture.

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 12:03 AM
Nothing wrong with that video. After all, my OP for this thread is solid video links. So expect a vid or two out of me on this thread, with a tied comment rather than a special snowflake transcript of the vid hehe. At least I use short vids or time stamp if longer.
---------------

Hillary Clinton Blames Whites, Cops for Deaths of Young Black Men (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/08/hillary-clinton-blame-whites-cops-shooting-deaths-young-black-men/)
“I’m going to be talking to white people, we’re the ones who have to start listening to the legitimate cries coming from our African-American fellow citizens,” she said.
--snip--
“We’ve got to start once again respecting and treating each other with the dignity that every person deserves,” she said.
The elites hard at work fanning the flames of war and taking the focus off of they being the ones driving this mess. As Watson said in the above vid (last page), It's Soros and the elites that are behind these groups. edit: btw you see there she admits she doesn't listen. Others have, but not her. Hate it when some lefty politician tries to speak for me because they think we have something - ANYThing in common due to the hue of our skin.

Meanwhile Jesse Jackson blaming Trump.
'It's a kind of anti-black mood': Reverend Jesse Jackson points the finger at Donald Trump and his followers for the rise of 'mean-spirited division' in America

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3680429/It-s-kind-anti-black-mood-Reverend-Jesse-Jackson-points-finger-Donald-Trump-followers-rise-mean-spirited-division-America.html#ixzz4DseK6rVo

Jackson is yet another elitist, he's only concerned about himself.

Nihilist_santa
07-09-2016, 12:11 AM
Culture?

http://i.imgur.com/KETXG0l.jpg

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 12:21 AM
Culture?

http://i.imgur.com/KETXG0l.jpg


The blast radius was huge in this post.

Archalen
07-09-2016, 12:26 AM
Culture?

http://i.imgur.com/KETXG0l.jpg

So what is it about African American "culture" that caused this to happen?

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 12:31 AM
So what is it about African American "culture" that caused this to happen?https://youtu.be/fdTihf2_GGM

Archalen
07-09-2016, 12:33 AM
Nothing wrong with that video. After all, my OP for this thread is solid video links. So expect a vid or two out of me on this thread, with a tied comment rather than a special snowflake transcript of the vid hehe. At least I use short vids or time stamp if longer.
---------------

Hillary Clinton Blames Whites, Cops for Deaths of Young Black Men (http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/08/hillary-clinton-blame-whites-cops-shooting-deaths-young-black-men/)

The elites hard at work fanning the flames of war and taking the focus off of they being the ones driving this mess. As Watson said in the above vid (last page), It's Soros and the elites that are behind these groups. edit: btw you see there she admits she doesn't listen. Others have, but not her. Hate it when some lefty politician tries to speak for me because they think we have something - ANYThing in common due to the hue of our skin.

Meanwhile Jesse Jackson blaming Trump.

Jackson is yet another elitist, he's only concerned about himself.

Yes, but elite sectors of the population are on the right as well. It's not just a "left" problem.

Lune
07-09-2016, 12:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWzjn0N9g4g

IQ test!

fucking hilarious

Archalen
07-09-2016, 12:40 AM
https://youtu.be/fdTihf2_GGM

So it's Obama and the democrats fault? That's what these people are saying. So if I vote Trump that'll be a step in the right direction?

Archalen
07-09-2016, 12:43 AM
Fuck it I'm voting Trump, MAGA BITCHES.

Feels goog swallowing dat red pill.

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 12:47 AM
Yes, but elite sectors of the population are on the right as well. It's not just a "left" problem.
Clueless trollings. I give you excellent vid links and you ignore and just flap gums. You are just parroting the false narrative of the left with that, as crumbs like Soros, 0bama, Clinton etc actually drive the false narrative directly impacting black communities, abandoned. It's a full on con-job, they are behind it all, and it's not the conservatives doing this to them. Yours is the level of awareness they actually count on to reach their goals, the destruction of America.

edit
So it's Obama and the democrats fault? That's what these people are saying. So if I vote Trump that'll be a step in the right direction? There you go. Yes, this has been a major issue impacting black communities. One thing for sure, the Don is not headed in that direction.

Archalen
07-09-2016, 12:52 AM
Clueless trollings. I give you excellent vid links and you ignore and just flap gums. You are just parroting the false narrative of the left with that, as crumbs like Soros, 0bama, Clinton etc actually drive the false narrative directly impacting black communities, abandoned. It's a full on con-job, they are behind it all, and it's not the conservatives doing this to them. Yours is the level of awareness they actually count on to reach their goals, the destruction of America.

It's simple, Clinton is trying to destroy America, and Trump is trying to make America great again. Why the hell would I vote Clinton?

Pokesan
07-09-2016, 12:54 AM
IQ is garbage, much like Daywolfs posts!!

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 01:01 AM
It's simple, Clinton is trying to destroy America, and Trump is trying to make America great again. Why the hell would I vote Clinton?
Yeah, at least you caught that vid, which has been on my favs list for a long time. It's true though, they care more about globalism than black communities in their own country they claim to represent. Since 0bama came to office, things have gotten much worse for them, while they worry more about overseas people. Clinton is pretty much on the road to being just 0bamas 3rd term. They are just being used, that's it.

IQ is garbage, much like Daywolfs posts!!
I don't have a vid qued up for you from your fav requested youtube channel atm. Check back later, I'm off to play a little minecraft, then something else. ohhhh here how about this (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alex+jones+false+flag), bud?

Baler
07-09-2016, 01:42 AM
I facepalm so hard when people who live their whole lives in safety, encounter these sounds. There are countries and areas in the world that are in a constant state of war.
Hearing gun shots is no big deal to them there, unless the sounds are coming towards them.

Some people think removing guns from people is the answer. It's too late, it is a form of technology that will be around forever. You can go back to sticks and rocks if you want to. I'll choose technology.
I do think there are irresponsible people who possess tech they shouldn't. Like children on the internet as an example.

---
edit: On a less serious note blm
http://i.imgur.com/kWpUuN7.giflol

Pokesan
07-09-2016, 02:00 AM
anyone having ugly thoughts since yesterday?

i need to discuss this with my life coach

derpcake
07-09-2016, 02:33 AM
Daywolfs brain was confiscated.

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 03:00 AM
edit: On a less serious note blm
http://i.imgur.com/kWpUuN7.giflol
It's like flashbacks to when they were in daycare and fighting over the attention of the only daycare worker in a room of 30 other little kids. 1 parent home (fatherless) and mom working two jobs, while the "village" raises the little brats to be; that village being some 19yo daycare worker that has better things to do than stop full temper tantrums in the room every few minutes. That stuff stays with them for life unless they recognize it and deal with it. This is the new norm now.

http://i.imgur.com/zN3SVVC.gif

derpcake
07-09-2016, 03:13 AM
someone post that red vs blue gif with the big black lady throwing a table

thats how debates are won

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 03:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWzjn0N9g4g

IQ test!

The dunk radius incinerates (redacted) man.

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 03:37 AM
Also it doesn't make sense for oligarch based economics (current US capitalism) to uplift any particular group of people.

Anti-racist is anti-white, as the video points out. This suits the oligarch agenda, as mass proliferation of a lower IQ nation ensures dependency but it also serves the greater corporate oligarchic agenda of less pay for the same jobs. (We now have a 30 year track with statistics to prove that pay is NOT returning).

You will never see this direction reverse in our lifetimes, as the economics are unsupportive. It would take a full blown collapse to see even the hint of nationalism that Lune longs for, and by then, the melting pot will be cooked so its a moot point really.

Capitalist economics are on their way out. Central planning and crony capitalism have become oligarchic capitalism.

Americans are being hired for the same jobs as 1980-1999 for LESS money overall. And the system does not incentivize a return when globalization can get the same guy with tan skin whos "Just happy to be here".

Baler
07-09-2016, 03:49 AM
someone post that red vs blue gif with the big black lady throwing a table

thats how debates are won

http://i.imgur.com/yifdfXt.gif
I couldn't find the one with text. :(

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 03:53 AM
Yes, the economy is going to collapse. We've been looted. Then the presumed answer will be more socialism. The road we are on, we'll be full blown soviet style communism eventually. Like I've said, the point is to destroy America. They just want one big global government, ruled by technocrats. This is no secret, these are the overt dreams of the elite.

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 04:00 AM
Yes, the economy is going to collapse. We've been looted. Then the presumed answer will be more socialism. The road we are on, we'll be full blown soviet style communism eventually. Like I've said, the point is to destroy America. They just want one big global government, ruled by technocrats. This is no secret, these are the overt dreams of the elite.

Of course.

Why would this not be the goal? I love when nerds try to claim globalist is some kind of conspiracy. Conspiracy isn't common sense. Globalism makes sense to unite the haves and the power houses together.

These people don't know the mindset of someone with billions, nevermind hundreds of billions to trillions. Its a club. you can't comprehend the universe anymore than you can comprehend billions you pompous four-eyed little shits.

derpcake
07-09-2016, 05:52 AM
I don't buy into these conspiracies, its just a bunch of individuals out for themselves, and cooperation is most often a result of trying to gain greater individual benefits.

When looking at someone like Martin Shkreli raising the price of HIV medication by 5000%, because he can, I'm certain society is not gaining anything from most inventions.

If a 3$ pill that cures cancer was invented, it wouldn't be released, because it would ruin an entire profitable industry, and why charge 3$ when you can charge way more.

We're not evolving into a better society, people are selfish, and people don't get rich by giving stuff away.

There are a few exceptions like Elon Musk. Tesla being open source is a good example.

People like Trump are on the other side of the spectrum, thinking it matters whether they have 10 or 20 billion dollars.

There have been huge efficiency gains in every industry, but all the profits generated are going into the pockets of a tiny percentage of people, ensuring society doesn't benefit from innovation.

Nice parallel with EQ guilds can be made.

I wonder where this shit went wrong during evolution. Ants have a nicer society then humans.

derpcake
07-09-2016, 05:57 AM
http://i.imgur.com/yifdfXt.gif
I couldn't find the one with text. :(

thanks :)

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 06:24 AM
I wonder where this shit went wrong during evolution. Ants have a nicer society then humans.

Uhh...apes...

seriously. Have you ever observed gorillas, and to a lesser extent, bonobos/chimps?

A silverback will casually stroll up to a lesser male that's minding his own business, the lesser male sitting down with his back exposed to the silverback peacefully, and punch it as hard as it can in the spine and then casually continue strolling without even a glance at the lesser male who just got sucker punched for apparently no reason in the back knocking it away.

That's the "no-fucks-given" where evolution went wrong.

Baler
07-09-2016, 06:33 AM
If a 3$ pill that cures cancer was invented, it wouldn't be released, because it would ruin an entire profitable industry, and why charge 3$ when you can charge way more.

Yup there is truth in this. Even if the person who invented it was a truly good person. It would end up in the hands of evil.


Uhh...apes...

seriously. Have you ever observed gorillas, and to a lesser extent, bonobos/chimps

http://i.imgur.com/9QoEYUF.gif

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 06:48 AM
Yup there is truth in this. Even if the person who invented it was a truly good person. It would end up in the hands of evil.




Just end up in the hands of evil? Under our current crony-capitalist government, It would practically be a matter of national security to make sure it never got released until it was profitable for the chosen oligarch to do so.

State Dept contractors would come collect it and turn it over to the "appropriate hands" (i.e. a pharmacy giant who "deserved" to have discovered this) who would "ensure the continued development of such a critical breakthrough".

khanable
07-09-2016, 07:59 AM
Every time I hear someone say "there is a cure for cancer but the overlords don't want you to have it cause money" I take a look at harvoni, zepatier, etc, and notice how the FDA fast-tracked the shit out of them and think to myself "is that really the case?"

spoiler: it's probably not. that shit will absolutely be released and you'll pay through the nose for it at first.

Barkingturtle
07-09-2016, 08:16 AM
Every time I hear someone say "there is a cure for cancer but the overlords don't want you to have it cause money" I take a look at harvoni, zepatier, etc, and notice how the FDA fast-tracked the shit out of them and think to myself "is that really the case?"

spoiler: it's probably not. that shit will absolutely be released and you'll pay through the nose for it at first.

The FDA is still telling people to eat almost two pounds of meat each week. They say it's healthy to drink three cups of cow's milk each day. These recommendations ignore science and do not indicate concern for public health, but rather the bottom line of their cronies.

So yeah, there's no reason to think a pharmaceutical "cure" wouldn't be released to the public. I mean, it'd be wildly profitable, so long as the FDA can continue goading the citizenry into the making the kind of consumer choices which cause cancer in the first place.

Baler
07-09-2016, 08:40 AM
The FDA is still telling people to eat almost two pounds of meat each week. They say it's healthy to drink three cups of cow's milk each day. These recommendations ignore science and do not indicate concern for public health, but rather the bottom line of their cronies.

2lbs of venison & a couple glasses of raw milk. add in a workout routine and you got the hulk. :D

That stuff they sell in most super markets is all fat and sugar water.

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 09:06 AM
I don't buy into these conspiracies
Would you consider it just some conspiracy if you saw someone pointing a gun at you, like a cop, and he said don't move or he'll shoot?

Globalism is that gun pointed at you, it's overtly real just the same, the globalist elite. They don't hide it. From big banks, to elite billionaires (not all of them), including corporatism, and they have their hands in many things including the funding of BLM (i.e. George Soros). ATM with Brexit and Trump, the elites are getting desperate to keep the dream alive, doubling down.

They talk about it openly, progress the agenda openly, it's just a matter of do we continue to let it happen. If you don't open your eyes, was the cop never even there?

Jarnauga
07-09-2016, 09:13 AM
The BLM movement is just here to divert your eyes from the real threat for the great pan-american empire..

the jews.

:p

Raev
07-09-2016, 09:55 AM
The FDA is still telling people to eat almost two pounds of meat each week. They say it's healthy to drink three cups of cow's milk each day. These recommendations ignore science and do not indicate concern for public health, but rather the bottom line of their cronies.

I'd be curious to see what evidence you have for this, especially the meat part.

maskedmelon
07-09-2016, 11:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWzjn0N9g4g

IQ test!

lol A+

sOurDieSel
07-09-2016, 12:02 PM
Is anyone really surprised that a terrorist group comprised of low iq 3rd world savages is committing violent acts against police and then crying racism... We don't need to worry about ISIS in the Middle East when we have BLM right here in Amurika.

Raev
07-09-2016, 12:10 PM
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2016/july/08/in-dallas-drone-wars-just-came-home/

The suspected shooter was simply blown up sans trial. There was no reason they could not have simply waited him out.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/authorities-highway-gunman-motivated-police-shootings-40441360

Another black army vet 'wants to kill white people'.

God what happened to the United States.

P.S. Everyone talks about how the police are racist; why is no one talking about how the police are sexist? Police kill 20x more men than women.

Lune
07-09-2016, 12:29 PM
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2016/july/08/in-dallas-drone-wars-just-came-home/

The suspected shooter was simply blown up sans trial. There was no reason they could not have simply waited him out.

So this dude is armed to the teeth, fairly competent with a weapon, has already killed 5 in plain sight of thousands, has verbally professed his desire to kill more, could run out at any time and possibly (unlikely) kill 1 or 2 more before they take him down, and the standoff is shutting down a part of Dallas and probably costing at least several hundred thousand taxpayer dollars an hour.

Ending a deadly, murderous rampage takes moral precedence over due process of the criminal. If you want to live to go through a multi-million dollar years-long trial, you have to surrender.

Nihilist_santa
07-09-2016, 12:31 PM
The BLM movement is just here to divert your eyes from the real threat for the great pan-american empire..

the jews.

:p

This guy gets it. Recently they have been calling the use of parenthesis "hate speech" because white nationalist were putting the names of Jews in ((())). This caused Jews the world over to crap themselves for being outed. It was funny every time some Twitter pundit or journalist would be talking about banning guns, ending sovereignty, open borders, etc the name would be in brackets. Then the brave christian soldiers created an app that was put in the google play app store. It was called the cohenicidence detector. Basically did the same thing but was a giant database. Google removed it :(

Nihilist_santa
07-09-2016, 12:35 PM
So this dude is armed to the teeth, fairly competent with a weapon, has already killed 5 in plain sight of thousands, has verbally professed his desire to kill more, could run out at any time and possibly (unlikely) kill 1 or 2 more before they take him down, and the standoff is shutting down a part of Dallas and probably costing at least several hundred thousand taxpayer dollars an hour.

Ending a deadly, murderous rampage takes moral precedence over due process of the criminal. If you want to live to go through a multi-million dollar years-long trial, you have to surrender.

You are right. They use snipers when they have the shot so I dont see how this is a due process issue. I mean it could be made out to be one but seems like a stretch. Had been reading some Murray (((Rothbard))) recently and he had advocated Judge Dredd style policing. I found it interesting.

Raev
07-09-2016, 12:37 PM
Ending a deadly, murderous rampage takes moral precedence over due process of the criminal. If you want to live to go through a multi-million dollar years-long trial, you have to surrender.

It's a good point. That being said, it seems like a bit of a false choice. Why couldn't they have put some sleeping gas or something on the robot?

Jarnauga
07-09-2016, 12:57 PM
This guy gets it. Recently they have been calling the use of parenthesis "hate speech" because white nationalist were putting the names of Jews in ((())). This caused Jews the world over to crap themselves for being outed. It was funny every time some Twitter pundit or journalist would be talking about banning guns, ending sovereignty, open borders, etc the name would be in brackets. Then the brave christian soldiers created an app that was put in the google play app store. It was called the cohenicidence detector. Basically did the same thing but was a giant database. Google removed it :(

..my point is made

i was being totally ironic over all the conspiracy theories you guys are throwing around

Nihilist_santa
07-09-2016, 01:00 PM
..my point is made

i was being totally ironic over all the conspiracy theories you guys are throwing around

Whatever you say bro. Have a nice day (((Jarnauga))).

Lune
07-09-2016, 01:12 PM
Why couldn't they have put some sleeping gas or something on the robot?

If sleeping gas actually exists in a way where it can be effectively delivered like that, that's a great idea and that's what they should have done instead.

Alarti0001
07-09-2016, 01:34 PM
..my point is made

i was being totally ironic over all the conspiracy theories you guys are throwing around

Yes Jarn.. it was very obvious to anyone with a sane mind...

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 04:45 PM
Every time I hear someone say "there is a cure for cancer but the overlords don't want you to have it cause money" I take a look at harvoni, zepatier, etc, and notice how the FDA fast-tracked the shit out of them and think to myself "is that really the case?"

spoiler: it's probably not. that shit will absolutely be released and you'll pay through the nose for it at first.

That's not what I was implying at all....I said it would be released by the appropriate oligarch family AFTER they obtained it and debated on how to structure its release for maximum profit. You cannot separate the profit motive from these oligarchs.

The joke about them invoking national security and sending State Dept to collect the cure and turn it over to the oligarch went over your head.

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 04:58 PM
This guy gets it. Recently they have been calling the use of parenthesis "hate speech" because white nationalist were putting the names of Jews in ((())). This caused Jews the world over to crap themselves for being outed. It was funny every time some Twitter pundit or journalist would be talking about banning guns, ending sovereignty, open borders, etc the name would be in brackets. Then the brave christian soldiers created an app that was put in the google play app store. It was called the cohenicidence detector. Basically did the same thing but was a giant database. Google removed it :(

lol those motherfuckers. corporate censorship is the future of censorship though as in capitalism everything is private property in one way or another.

So this dude is armed to the teeth, fairly competent with a weapon, has already killed 5 in plain sight of thousands, has verbally professed his desire to kill more, could run out at any time and possibly (unlikely) kill 1 or 2 more before they take him down, and the standoff is shutting down a part of Dallas and probably costing at least several hundred thousand taxpayer dollars an hour.

Ending a deadly, murderous rampage takes moral precedence over due process of the criminal. If you want to live to go through a multi-million dollar years-long trial, you have to surrender.

This.

big_ole_jpn
07-09-2016, 05:09 PM
If sleeping gas actually exists in a way where it can be effectively delivered like that, that's a great idea and that's what they should have done instead.

Only thing like "sleeping gas" that exists outside of cartoons is an opioid overdose administered by gas. Difficult to impossible to titrate dose properly, and the chain of custody / risk of diversion would make having that type of shit on hand all over the US an expensive proposition.

Just blow the dude's face off.

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 05:27 PM
Only thing like "sleeping gas" that exists outside of cartoons is an opioid overdose administered by gas. Difficult to impossible to titrate dose properly, and the chain of custody / risk of diversion would make having that type of shit on hand all over the US an expensive proposition.

Just blow the dude's face off.

And we don't even have save-shots available on police/paramedics for basic recreational opioid emergencies, which occur daily. Maybe when save-shots being carried become Federal law, we can start to talk about sleeping gas for active shooters (not).

Additionally, there is absolutely no way to quantify when the gas works. The threat, even with a robot visual, is still a threat regardless of whether hes slumped in the prone position or not.

Never. Going. To. Happen. Russia tried it, it murdered hundreds by accident. And half the shooters were still wielding firearms and shooting because the titration and distribution is impossible to guarantee.

What we need is legitimate androids (which we have the technology for) to roll in, request the firearms be turned over, collect the firearms via supermagnetic device (warn the perpetrator that it will lose his hands/fingers or face serious injury or death when the supermagnet turns on unless he removes all metal devices within the demanded time-frame). The robot can suggest stripping naked taking pants off, shirt off, ensuring no metal devices are on the person when the magnetic collector activates.

This is probably the most safe and cost effective solution. Put 1 disarm android in each major city.

The negotiator can still do his job, but when it comes time for the ultimatum is when you send the disarm robot in.

maskedmelon
07-09-2016, 06:38 PM
O
Just blow the dude's face off.

^This. We have enough people. Don't need shitty ones.

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 06:51 PM
^This. We have enough people. Don't need shitty ones.

u don't want to pay to be able house him in a criminal retirement home?

bigot degenerate.

Archalen
07-09-2016, 07:19 PM
I'd be curious to see what evidence you have for this, especially the meat part.

Never seen the rat studies on casein and the population studies (both done by professor emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University Colin Campbell)? I've read the five or so refutations by amateur staticians that float around the Internet and Colin has personally shut them all down. He published all this stuff in peer reviewed journals when he first conducted the study and gives talks around the country. He said the only serious arguments he gets from qualified peers in the field are "this isn't realistic, people aren't going to eat a plant based diet.

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 07:30 PM
ah that was my first thought when I heard they used a drone to bomb him, I don't support drone use on US soil in this way. First get a drone cam on him, assess if dousing him in an irritant such as pepper spay would work, and if so while he is disabled, send another drone in to shoot him with a tranq.

Even if he were equipped with a gas mask, and he likely wasn't, but could have had one near though, a tranq tagged on him in an unarmored spot could have taken him down. Another alternative is a taser unit equipped. Then let the waterboarding commence.

Then again, maybe this wouldn't have worked, not if the body was already cold after being planted ;)

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 07:40 PM
MRI technology is micro enough to transport on a robot.

Easily disarmed-- it would be instantaneous as soon as the robot makes contact with him, and the cost of these machines is not very high when we are talking about resolving crisis quickly.

Magnetic disarmament via robot is the future in these scenarios. The tech exists, and its cost effective and viable. If they refuse to strip off their watch, belt, etc and end up dying its their own fucking problem. But it at least gives a chance for an immediate peaceful disarm and immediate resolution to the threat.

Not gas, not drones. Filing a patent now (seriously). Thanks for helping me draw this conclusion for yet another big money making invention that I'm going to be able to easily market to Federal contractors. Even if they never use it, or it never sees deployment-- they are going to buy it.

its going to use 2 to 3 robots juxtaposed to create the necessary field (thereby emulating the field of an MRI)

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 07:58 PM
Not gas, not drones.
Well gas is effective under the right situations. And a better choice for multiple targets in a confined space. This was (they say) one person in an open space, so what ever tools are best for the situation, there are a number of non lethal weapons that can be drone attachments. A drone is just a robot.

Ahldagor
07-09-2016, 08:07 PM
So y'all have no clue as to what current cancer research is being done, weeks behind Google's actions, still spout plebian-4chan politics, and a small portion of you have a grasp on reality. Good to know there's constants. Keep on p99, keep on.

Raev
07-09-2016, 08:11 PM
Never seen the rat studies on casein and the population studies (both done by professor emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University Colin Campbell)? I've read the five or so refutations by amateur staticians that float around the Internet and Colin has personally shut them all down. He published all this stuff in peer reviewed journals when he first conducted the study and gives talks around the country. He said the only serious arguments he gets from qualified peers in the field are "this isn't realistic, people aren't going to eat a plant based diet.

Casein is a milk protein, though. I can believe that drinking large quantities of milk as an adult could cause problems (especially without fermentation) as it isn't really a natural thing to do. That's why I said I was more interested in the meat part.

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 08:12 PM
So y'all have no clue as to what current cancer research is being done, weeks behind Google's actions, still spout plebian-4chan politics, and a small portion of you have a grasp on reality. Good to know there's constants. Keep on p99, keep on.

I think that without benevolent central planning (i.e. Nationalism) we are unlikely to reach that cure in a timely fashion.

You have to create and organize centers where research can be conducted. The private sector has several limiting factors in this area, namely funding.

Well gas is effective under the right situations. And a better choice for multiple targets in a confined space. This was (they say) one person in an open space, so what ever tools are best for the situation, there are a number of non lethal weapons that can be drone attachments. A drone is just a robot.

That's true. They just didn't give a shit.

Detonating a bomb on him is almost laughable. Actually it is laughable. Say it to yourself out loud. I mean really?? ....

Ahldagor
07-09-2016, 08:23 PM
I think that without benevolent central planning (i.e. Nationalism) we are unlikely to reach that cure in a timely fashion.

You have to create and organize centers where research can be conducted. The private sector has several limiting factors in this area, namely funding.



That's true. They just didn't give a shit.

Detonating a bomb on him is almost laughable. Actually it is laughable. Say it to yourself out loud. I mean really?? ....

http://killingcancer.vice.com/

No central planning needed right here in H-Town.

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 08:40 PM
So 0bama is out there today downplaying connections of this guy to BLM/hate groups etc. making him out to be a lone-gunman nutcase. And he may be right... yeah it's your fault 0bama for all the us vs them constant dialog saturated in race baiting resulting in this instability. The US has never been so divided in modern times, by YOUR influence, imo this is a damn direct result of this corrupt administration. I know some disagree with me, but I see it as intentional to bring in an end-result.

This makes me wonder if the "Summer of Chaos" leaks are real. A liberated message exchange between the US attorney general and BLM member Mckesson. I still lean towards a no, but just in the specific exchange. All 0bama need do is call up Soros, get things done with BLM.

That's true. They just didn't give a shit.

Detonating a bomb on him is almost laughable. Actually it is laughable. Say it to yourself out loud. I mean really?? .... Conditioning. We both know they could have, but I'm sure you heard 0bama's remarks this year on his desires to use drones on US citizens on US soil. Is this the first use? Likely see it again, and more accepted as they reload bombs for bullets. Then as it becomes the norm, it's used in less dangerous situations etc.

AzzarTheGod
07-09-2016, 08:55 PM
This makes me wonder if the "Summer of Chaos" leaks are real. A liberated message exchange between the US attorney general and BLM member Mckesson. I still lean towards a no, but just in the specific exchange. All 0bama need do is call up Soros, get things done with BLM.

Give me your best source on "Summer of Chaos" and BLM.

It can be 3rd hand and just a piece on the leaks themselves. I don't need it to go into much investigation on the leak itself.

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 09:20 PM
Give me your best source on "Summer of Chaos" and BLM.

It can be 3rd hand and just a piece on the leaks themselves. I don't need it to go into much investigation on the leak itself.Well Jones has been ranting about it, but I seldom link him here (I'm not a fan of Alex by far, but I like some that work with him which I do link). The Snopes piece is presumptuous. But here is the original leak: https://www.intellihub.com/operation-summer-of-chaos-obama-admin-black-lives-matter-plan/

Mentioning again, I lean towards 'no' in this particular instance, but not that something like this isn't already in place and very well could be. This could be a dis-information piece easily discredited/unbelievable to discredit any suggestions of gov involvement in the actual situation we see unfolding today.

Raev
07-09-2016, 09:28 PM
I googled a bit more:

But importantly, we also had evidence that this effect was reserved for a dietary level of casein that is above a threshold required to meet the rat’s needs for protein, i.e., 10-12% of total calories. We also obtained evidence that this is true for casein but not for wheat protein or for soy protein, even when these latter proteins are fed at 20% of total calories. However, the fact that this casein effect exists above 10-12% on up to 20% or so makes these findings very relevant, in large part because humans and rats have about the same requirement for protein and in part because the range of human consumption for protein is about 11-22% protein, well within the range of this effect.

Even if this is true, it doesn't seem like a very strong finding. 10% of calories in an adult male would be 60g of casein or over 2 quarts of cow's milk. I don't think very many people drink that much. Apparently there are some people who believe casein free diets can improve autism, and some people are allergic to it. There is also a strain of probiotics, lactobacillus casei, that help humans break down casein.

Maybe I am not seeing the whole picture yet, but so far it seems to me to be a long way from this study to 'you shouldn't drink milk' let alone 'you shouldn't eat meat'.

Ahldagor
07-09-2016, 09:46 PM
So 0bama is out there today downplaying connections of this guy to BLM/hate groups etc. making him out to be a lone-gunman nutcase. And he may be right... yeah it's your fault 0bama for all the us vs them constant dialog saturated in race baiting resulting in this instability. The US has never been so divided in modern times, by YOUR influence, imo this is a damn direct result of this corrupt administration. I know some disagree with me, but I see it as intentional to bring in an end-result.

This makes me wonder if the "Summer of Chaos" leaks are real. A liberated message exchange between the US attorney general and BLM member Mckesson. I still lean towards a no, but just in the specific exchange. All 0bama need do is call up Soros, get things done with BLM.

Conditioning. We both know they could have, but I'm sure you heard 0bama's remarks this year on his desires to use drones on US citizens on US soil. Is this the first use? Likely see it again, and more accepted as they reload bombs for bullets. Then as it becomes the norm, it's used in less dangerous situations etc.

The guy had no connections to any group which he admitted before he was justifiably killed by Dallas PD. He was a lone wolf and acted from the same thought processes as Timothy McVeigh and you. Your thinking culminates with such behavior unless you're a feckless coward.

barrettdc1
07-09-2016, 10:07 PM
I made a meatloaf tonight, and after it was cooked I literally poured a full coffee cup worth of fucking water/grease out of it. The thing that makes me wonder is what the hell they're injecting into the meat/milk.

barrettdc1
07-09-2016, 10:08 PM
The guy had no connections to any group which he admitted before he was justifiably killed by Dallas PD. He was a lone wolf and acted from the same thought processes as Timothy McVeigh and you. Your thinking culminates with such behavior unless you're a feckless coward.

He also admitted that he wanted to kill white police officers. You know who else chants they want dead white police officers? Take a guess.

Lune
07-09-2016, 10:48 PM
How conservatives envision gun ownership:

http://i.imgur.com/gAikePM.jpg

How it actually is:

http://i.imgur.com/wW5flUo.jpg

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 10:55 PM
The guy had no connections to any group which he admitted before he was justifiably killed by Dallas PD. He was a lone wolf and acted from the same thought processes as Timothy McVeigh and you. Your thinking culminates with such behavior unless you're a feckless coward.Which is what you see coming out of the left, constantly, all the BS race baiting and crap. He bought into the false narrative of the left, regardless if he "belonged" to any group. That's what I'm eluding to. You can't detach that, just like inciting a riot is in fact illegal. Most of the crap spewed out of this administration are bold face lies, to incite this sort of stuff. Then oh "it's not us, it's them!". I call bullshit! bullshit bullshit bullshit! ...on 0bama and the elite globalist left that know EXACTLY what they are doing.

Daywolf
07-09-2016, 11:00 PM
How it actually is:

http://i.imgur.com/wW5flUo.jpg
...bullshit. Thats not gun ownership, that's la raza and then 0bama's fast and furious gun running to destabilize the world which has been very successful (even Russia is screaming bloody murder and threatening WWIII now). Lune, you are not fooling anyone "oh I'm voting for Trump!" riiiight :rolleyes:

Ahldagor
07-09-2016, 11:42 PM
Which is what you see coming out of the left, constantly, all the BS race baiting and crap. He bought into the false narrative of the left, regardless if he "belonged" to any group. That's what I'm eluding to. You can't detach that, just like inciting a riot is in fact illegal. Most of the crap spewed out of this administration are bold face lies, to incite this sort of stuff. Then oh "it's not us, it's them!". I call bullshit! bullshit bullshit bullshit! ...on 0bama and the elite globalist left that know EXACTLY what they are doing.

And you're the savior, seer, exposer or their nefarious deeds. Get over your self, coward.

Tecmos Deception
07-10-2016, 12:32 AM
How conservatives envision gun ownership:

http://i.imgur.com/gAikePM.jpg

How it actually is:

http://i.imgur.com/wW5flUo.jpg

Hope you're trolling.

Gun ownership statistics are easily accessible to anyone who can google and read more than a few paragraphs of a scholarly article before getting confused. And the lions share of guns are owned by those at higher socioeconomic levels. IIRC there's like 3x as many firearms owned by people of ~middle-class and higher as there are at or below the poverty line (per capita)... and it's not just raw number but also number of households that's much different between poor and middle-class and up.

But despite that, the lower socioeconomic levels commit a disproportionately high amount of gun violence... even though they don't have nearly as many guns.

So there you have it. Guns aren't the problem, proven by the fact that people who are decently-well-off (or better) own a shitload of guns and don't do many bad things with them. And the biggest "bad thing" they do with them is shoot themselves (like 2/3 of firearm deaths are suicides). Accidental firearm deaths? It's only like 600-700 per year. The same as the number of civilians who die in structure fires caused by lit tobacco products every year (not to mention firefighter deaths, hundreds of millions in damage, second hand smoke issues, etc... but the left goes berserk over a 14-year-old accidentally shot by his dad even though this other issue is objectively worse for society). Other accidental death sources? Poisoning: 30,000+ per year. Falling: 30,000+ per year.

The US needs to fix the systems and the mindsets that create cultures/areas/etc that are lacking in education and employment opportunities... AND the will to pursue them.

Daywolf
07-10-2016, 01:03 AM
And you're the savior, seer, exposer or their nefarious deeds. Get over your self, coward.
No, I just actually take the time to do research into all this junk, over decades, and not just blindly accept the snake oil this corrupt gov/administration and their media lapdogs hand out. And not blindly for any side either, I'm very scrutinous and developed some level of rational investigative skills.

It's easy to be a "savior" when most around you are just dumb and blind by choice. Aint no noble savior title in it though, mostly scorn. Most WANT to be deaf, dumb and blind, as long as they get their one or two issues addressed, or nodded at.

Then some do listen, sometimes, maybe listen enough to at least put some time into checking things out for themselves. That's half the battle right there, and even more so in recent years as it seems all my fellow countrymen have some form of ADD staring into their cellphones linked to narcissistic farcebook oblivious to the world around them.

But I don't just write like that to encourage you to check things out for yourself, but there is an exchange of information and ideas going on with those that are in the know, even if you don't recognize it (i.e. my words are public and I know it). The world stopped revolving around you when your parents graduated you out of your crib ;)

Pokesan
07-10-2016, 01:27 AM
Hope you're trolling.


I'm your huckleberry

http://i.imgur.com/fwIkII3.png

fash
07-10-2016, 02:13 AM
I'm your huckleberry

http://i.imgur.com/fwIkII3.png

Funny cartoon, but let's be serious here. Firearms are clearly a problem in the US. 70% of homicides involved firearms. 70% of those were using pistols ( https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_w eapon_2008-2012.xls ), so it would be less invasive and more effective to ban pistols than rifles, shotguns, etc.

The problem with banning pistols is it is rather invasive to the general population. Around 40% of US households own firearms and a third of the 300 million firearms in the US are pistols. Black men are only 6% of the population yet commit half of the homocides ( https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex _of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls, https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data ). So if we simply ban this 6% of the population from owning firearms, we'd reduce homocides by nearly 50%! Don't even need background checks.

Idea shamelessly stolen from this article, https://christophercantwell.com/2015/10/07/disarm-black-males/

Wonkie
07-10-2016, 02:17 AM
Funny cartoon, but let's be serious here. Firearms are clearly a problem in the US. 70% of homicides involved firearms. 70% of those were using pistols ( https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_w eapon_2008-2012.xls ), so it would be less invasive and more effective to ban pistols than rifles, shotguns, etc.

The problem with banning pistols is it is rather invasive to the general population. Around 40% of US households own firearms and a third of the 300 million firearms in the US are pistols. Black men are only 6% of the population yet commit half of the homocides ( https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex _of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls, https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data ). So if we simply ban this 6% of the population from owning firearms, we'd reduce homocides by nearly 50%! Don't even need background checks.

Idea shamelessly stolen from this article, https://christophercantwell.com/2015/10/07/disarm-black-males/

lets take away someones rights based on their race

good post

fash
07-10-2016, 02:22 AM
lets take away someones rights based on their race

good post

Please elaborate.

big_ole_jpn
07-10-2016, 03:20 AM
BLM has always been at least a quasi-hate group. The liberal media labels a lot of militia groups and such as white supremacists over far less. The exclusivity and double standard draws many parallels to modern feminism and islam. SJWs are among the most brainwashed and useful idiots the elite have at their disposal.

I just groan how the default response to everything nowadays is blaming the 2nd amendment. Gun violence and cops killing people, even black people (not to mention half the time there's a big stink about it it was obviously justified), is so rare that to worry about it and treat it as a priority over other crippling deficiencies in this society is mentally ill. Can't the left just admit they are communists who hate the entire Bill of Rights? Why twist logic to justify it, just own up to it.

big man droppin big logs of wisdom itt

luv ya kid

AzzarTheGod
07-10-2016, 04:18 AM
Funny cartoon, but let's be serious here. Firearms are clearly a problem in the US. 70% of homicides involved firearms. 70% of those were using pistols ( https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_w eapon_2008-2012.xls ), so it would be less invasive and more effective to ban pistols than rifles, shotguns, etc.

The problem with banning pistols is it is rather invasive to the general population. Around 40% of US households own firearms and a third of the 300 million firearms in the US are pistols. Black men are only 6% of the population yet commit half of the homocides ( https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex _of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls, https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data ). So if we simply ban this 6% of the population from owning firearms, we'd reduce homocides by nearly 50%! Don't even need background checks.

Idea shamelessly stolen from this article, https://christophercantwell.com/2015/10/07/disarm-black-males/

Man this guy deserves a requote as well Big J.

Proud of the dunks r00t and co. are hitting.

Tecmos Deception
07-10-2016, 08:27 AM
If guns themselves are the real problem, then the people who own the most guns would be responsible for the most gun violence.

But that's not the case.

So stop talking about taking away guns like that would really fix things.

Would there be less gun violence if there were no guns? Of course. But why stop there? There would be no violence at all if we chained everyone in the world to a wall. Let's just ignore the real reason for people using tools improperly and strip liberties away instead of fixing the reasons why people use tools improperly!


Like... ask any decent parent. If their one kid decided to hit his sibling with a baseball when he got mad... would the parents pull the kid out of his little league? Would they throw away every baseball and other spherical object in the house? After all, the kid doesn't need balls to play with, and when he throws those instead of just slapping his sibling it can cause more harm.

Fuck no. The parents address the real issue, the poor judgment to be violent towards the sibling. They teach he kid to deal with frustration in different, less violent ways and/or they look for the reason why he got upset in the first place and try to fix that.


Don't take away guns. Fix the reasons why people feel the need to use guns improperly.

Tone23
07-10-2016, 08:34 AM
I dunno about that, last night we were awaken to a mutiny, all of my firearms rose up and I had to give them all hugs or else they were going to shoot me and my GF.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:


If guns themselves are the real problem, then the people who own the most guns would be responsible for the most gun violence.

But that's not the case.

So stop talking about taking away guns like that would really fix things.

Would there be less gun violence if there were no guns? Of course. But why stop there? There would be no violence at all if we chained everyone in the world to a wall. Let's just ignore the real reason for people using tools improperly and strip liberties away instead of fixing the reasons why people use tools improperly!

Daywolf
07-10-2016, 09:32 AM
Gun ban now! Ban all guns from the federal gov!

Jarnauga
07-10-2016, 09:50 AM
so if i'm an american citizen, can i own a nuke ? for real, not trolling

fash
07-10-2016, 09:59 AM
so if i'm an american citizen, can i own a nuke ? for real, not trolling

Even if you were an American citizen, you'd still be too poor to afford one.

Bazia
07-10-2016, 10:06 AM
cringing at the fact you guys dont have access to better discussion boards and are using the p99 off topic thread for this

Jarnauga
07-10-2016, 10:15 AM
Even if you were an American citizen, you'd still be too poor to afford one.

let's assume i'm bill gates. After all, the US has most billionaires in the world, right.

Ahldagor
07-10-2016, 10:41 AM
No, I just actually take the time to do research into all this junk, over decades, and not just blindly accept the snake oil this corrupt gov/administration and their media lapdogs hand out. And not blindly for any side either, I'm very scrutinous and developed some level of rational investigative skills.

It's easy to be a "savior" when most around you are just dumb and blind by choice. Aint no noble savior title in it though, mostly scorn. Most WANT to be deaf, dumb and blind, as long as they get their one or two issues addressed, or nodded at.

Then some do listen, sometimes, maybe listen enough to at least put some time into checking things out for themselves. That's half the battle right there, and even more so in recent years as it seems all my fellow countrymen have some form of ADD staring into their cellphones linked to narcissistic farcebook oblivious to the world around them.

But I don't just write like that to encourage you to check things out for yourself, but there is an exchange of information and ideas going on with those that are in the know, even if you don't recognize it (i.e. my words are public and I know it). The world stopped revolving around you when your parents graduated you out of your crib ;)

Doesn't refute my claim and makes assumptions based upon your worldview that are generalised over a population. Speculative correlation isn't proof, and if your only actions are posting here or other message boards then you are a feckless coward with a messiah complex. Get over your self or take action outside of your internet echo chamber.

Daywolf
07-10-2016, 10:43 AM
let's assume i'm bill gates. After all, the US has most billionaires in the world, right.
DiscountNukes@cia.gov
But if you just want a stinger missile or NATO ammo resupply, it's SpeedyDelivery@cia.gov

Daywolf
07-10-2016, 10:47 AM
Doesn't refute my claim and makes assumptions based upon your worldview that are generalised over a population. Speculative correlation isn't proof, and if your only actions are posting here or other message boards then you are a feckless coward with a messiah complex. Get over your self or take action outside of your internet echo chamber.
Go hide in your safe space.

fash
07-10-2016, 10:48 AM
let's assume i'm bill gates. After all, the US has most billionaires in the world, right.

Since it can be used for self-defense in a discriminating manner, sure. For example, you could use it to efficiently cleanse large regions of muslims.

Jarnauga
07-10-2016, 10:56 AM
DiscountNukes@cia.gov
But if you just want a stinger missile or NATO ammo resupply, it's SpeedyDelivery@cia.gov

why are you avoiding the question ?

A nuke is a weapon, the constitution grants me the right to get weapons.

Am i allowed to wear my handgun in a plane that goes from chicago to los angeles ?

fash
07-10-2016, 11:01 AM
why are you avoiding the question ?

The answer to your question is no.

so if i'm an american citizen, can i own a nuke ? for real, not trolling

Autistes (even if American) can't own any weapons.

Daywolf
07-10-2016, 11:06 AM
why are you avoiding the question ?I'm not avoiding your quesrion, I'm avoiding your answer.

__--------=

Hey I know! Lets make the pentagon a gun-free zone, and a safe-space :D make America great again!

Jarnauga
07-10-2016, 11:17 AM
The answer to your question is no.





why not ? the constitution grants me the right to, how dare you creepling my freedom you fucking communist

sOurDieSel
07-10-2016, 11:25 AM
A nuke isn't a firearm. Always some dumbass bringing up the 'nuclear suitcase.'

We don't have a gun problem in the USA we have a black problem because 90% of all blacks are murder by other blacks according to the FBI. If we had implemented Trumps waycist Muslim Ban 20 years ago 9/11 probably wouldn't have even happened.

Cyrano
07-10-2016, 11:25 AM
why not ? the constitution grants me the right to, how dare you creepling my freedom you fucking communist

Lol you're the least American guy ever Jarn! <3

Jarnauga
07-10-2016, 11:33 AM
A nuke isn't a firearm. Always some dumbass bringing up the 'nuclear suitcase.'



« A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. »

Arms, not firearms

i knew you were a liberal

Nihilist_santa
07-10-2016, 11:34 AM
Nah bro our nukes are too busy keeping you eurocucks safe from Russia.

ETA: Cant wait for Trump to win and pull our shit out of Europe so you guys can be liberated by the Russians again. Hope Putin implements some of his nationalist policies there and widens his homosexual laws.

Ahldagor
07-10-2016, 11:42 AM
Go hide in your safe space.

Feckless disengagement. That you can't discern the holes in my assertions about your cowardness says a lot about your self taught skills of rational discernment.

Jarnauga
07-10-2016, 11:46 AM
Nah bro our nukes are too busy keeping you eurocucks safe from Russia.

ETA: Cant wait for Trump to win and pull our shit out of Europe so you guys can be liberated by the Russians again. Hope Putin implements some of his nationalist policies there and widens his homosexual laws.

My country has nukes, thanks for your concern, you moron

Nihilist_santa
07-10-2016, 11:49 AM
My country has nukes, thanks for your concern, you moron

No one cares about the backwater you come from. Your 5 or 6 nukes have no force projection behind them. Its why you guys need us and NATO.

Jarnauga
07-10-2016, 12:01 PM
No one cares about the backwater you come from. Your 5 or 6 nukes have no force projection behind them. Its why you guys need us and NATO.

The French Nuclear Force, part of the Armed Forces of France, is the third largest nuclear-weapons force in the world, following the nuclear triads of the Russian Federation and the United States.

And we have force projection. How do you think we bomb ISIS in syria ? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgcGiaJoYMs) How do you think we went to Mali to kill fucking terrorists ..? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNdwWUSGJWY)

That doesn't anwser my question on why i shouldn't have a nuke as a freedom-loving-patriot.