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Daywolf

07-10-2016, 12:14 PM

Feckless disengagement. That you can't discern the holes in my assertions about your cowardness says a lot about your self taught skills of rational discernment.
You're just projecting. You guys are the ones with the safe-spaces to hide in. Then you think everyplace is a safe-space, or should be. Progressive-Liberalism (the degenerate left) is just fail across the board, always been that way.

Some people eventually realize it, but not much time left on this path - the way things are going. But hey, I believe in the life after death thing, and you'll have hindsight after you go up as a vapor in a roasting mushroom cloud. All the libtards will get a chance to face-palm, eventually.

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 12:19 PM

You cant have a Nuke because you live in New North Africa.

There more afro american in the US that there is french arabs in france, but who cares about facts amirite

You know, you guys should be worried that using your simple logic against you is too hard for you guys. Can't answer a simple question. Even ignored my question about carrying a handgun in a plane.

If guns would buy safety, the US would be the safest place on the earth. I literally have 3 more times chances to get shot in the US than i do in "no weapons allowed" france.

http://i.imgur.com/IyDBKH7.png

http://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/FR/US

..but i guess this is all liberal media bullshit :D

PS: i'm also curious about what y'all think Trump is gonna do if he wins..? You think he's gonna open camps to put all black and muslim people or something ? you guys are up for some a-grade disapointment :D i'm even betting his fucking wall is never gonna see the light of day.

Ahldagor

07-10-2016, 12:24 PM

You're just projecting. You guys are the ones with the safe-spaces to hide in. Then you think everyplace is a safe-space, or should be. Progressive-Liberalism (the degenerate left) is just fail across the board, always been that way.

Some people eventually realize it, but not much time left on this path - the way things are going. But hey, I believe in the life after death thing, and you'll have hindsight after you go up as a vapor in a roasting mushroom cloud. All the libtards will get a chance to face-palm, eventually.

Stop evading. I set you up to show off your discernment skills, so let's see them.

Nihilist_santa

07-10-2016, 12:27 PM

There more afro american in the US that there is french arabs in france, but who cares about facts amirite

You know, you guys should be worried that using your simple logic against you is too hard for you guys. Can't answer a simple question. Even ignored my question about carrying a handgun in a plane.

If guns would buy safety, the US would be the safest place on the earth. I literally have 3 more times chances to get shot in the US than i do in "no weapons allowed" france.

http://i.imgur.com/IyDBKH7.png

http://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/FR/US

..but i guess this is all liberal media bullshit :D

PS: i'm also curious about what y'all think Trump is gonna do if he wins..? You think he's gonna open camps to put all black and muslim people or something ? you guys are up for some a-grade disapointment :D i'm even betting his fucking wall is never gonna see the light of day.

Hopefully he gets a French Arab retard to start a fire at the capital then we blitzkrieg France.

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 12:34 PM

Hopefully he gets a French Arab retard to start a fire at the capital then we blitzkrieg France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui

still waiting

Nihilist_santa

07-10-2016, 12:37 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui

still waiting

Your endorsement of terrorism has been noted and reported to the DST and DGSE.

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 12:39 PM

Your endorsement of terrorism has been noted and reported to the DST and DGSE.

yep, because wikipedia is a terrorist organisation :confused:

..says the white supremacist in a white hood :D

Nihilist_santa

07-10-2016, 12:45 PM

yep, because wikipedia is a terrorist organisation :confused:

MLP going to build a wall and throw you out. She is totally red pilled. Getting nervous pal?

http://i.imgur.com/8IxUdUY.png

pickled_heretic

07-10-2016, 01:58 PM

realistically, France and UK are the only two countries in the EU that have any power projection. UK is on their way out... do you really think France can protect the entirety of Europe on their own?

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 03:51 PM

realistically, France and UK are the only two countries in the EU that have any power projection. UK is on their way out... do you really think France can protect the entirety of Europe on their own?

I never said that, i was answering the other moron who apparently thought we had sticks and stones for weapons.

Nihilist_santa

07-10-2016, 04:04 PM

I never said that, i was answering the other moron who apparently thought we had sticks and stones for weapons.

I don't care what happens in France. We saw your cops get mowed down on TV just like ours. You guys have done some great shit and had some great leaders like Napoleon and de Gaulle but that's gone unless you change(your choice). Why do you care about how we use our guns here?

Aesop

07-10-2016, 04:13 PM

I come to p1999 for all my commentary on current events.

AzzarTheGod

07-10-2016, 04:16 PM

I don't care what happens in France. We saw your cops get mowed down on TV just like ours. You guys have done some great shit and had some great leaders like Napoleon and de Gaulle but that's gone unless you change(your choice). Why do you care about how we use our guns here?

Napolean destroyed the Sphinx, the arguably the greatest creation of mankind by one of the greatest civilizations of mankind bar none.

(fuck Semitic Jews who would prefer you forget about Egypt and think otherwise)

Therefore, Napolean is not worthy of mention-- he is just as bad as the Zionists.

Aesop

07-10-2016, 04:19 PM

The greatest creation of mankind eh

Nihilist_santa

07-10-2016, 04:22 PM

Napolean destroyed the Sphinx, the arguably the greatest creation of mankind by one of the greatest civilizations of mankind bar none.

(fuck Semitic Jews who would prefer you forget about Egypt and think otherwise)

Therefore, Napolean is not worthy of mention-- he is just as bad as the Zionists.

That was a Jew lie to slander Napoleon.

Sketches of the Sphinx by the Dane Frederic Louis Norden were created in 1737 and published in 1755, well before the era of Napoleon. However, these drawings illustrate the Sphinx without a nose and clearly contradicts the legend. So what really happened?

http://www.smithsonianjourneys.org/blog/photo-what-happened-to-the-sphinxs-nose-180950757/

AzzarTheGod

07-10-2016, 04:24 PM

The greatest creation of mankind eh

as far as technologically advanced for its time, yes by far.

no other civilization was even 1000's years in range of the technology they had, and if they were, they produced nothing of note with it.

That was a Jew lie to slander Napoleon.

Sketches of the Sphinx by the Dane Frederic Louis Norden were created in 1737 and published in 1755, well before the era of Napoleon. However, these drawings illustrate the Sphinx without a nose and clearly contradicts the legend. So what really happened?

http://www.smithsonianjourneys.org/blog/photo-what-happened-to-the-sphinxs-nose-180950757/

Interesting. I'll have to look into this more. The hydra has many heads.

big_ole_jpn

07-10-2016, 04:25 PM

That was a Jew lie to slander Napoleon.

Sketches of the Sphinx by the Dane Frederic Louis Norden were created in 1737 and published in 1755, well before the era of Napoleon. However, these drawings illustrate the Sphinx without a nose and clearly contradicts the legend. So what really happened?

http://www.smithsonianjourneys.org/blog/photo-what-happened-to-the-sphinxs-nose-180950757/

Semites are known for broadcasting their intentions in literature and art years in advance. Think Theodore Herzl. There is no question that Napoleon was an early Zionist stooge.

Nihilist_santa

07-10-2016, 04:35 PM

Semites are known for broadcasting their intentions in literature and art years in advance. Think Theodore Herzl. There is no question that Napoleon was an early Zionist stooge.

Nah bro Rothschilds were backing England. They used Napoleon to buy up England with disinfo. That was their rise with his fall.

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 04:37 PM

Napoleon was classifying every work of art i egypt and funded egyptology. The guy did a whole bunch of shit, but he didn't break the nose.

Cf http://www.napoleon-series.org/faq/c_sphinx.html

Nihilist_santa

07-10-2016, 04:38 PM

Napoleon was classifying every work of art i egypt and funded egyptology. The guy did a whole bunch of shit, but he didn't break the nose.

Cf http://www.napoleon-series.org/faq/c_sphinx.html

On this we totally agree.

Nihilist_santa

07-10-2016, 05:01 PM

AzzarTheGod

07-10-2016, 05:15 PM

Speaking of France. Average IQ in France has fallen 4 points per decade and is being attributed to "dysgenics and replacement migration".

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289615001221

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289615000653

Whats the average IQ of Marseilles compared to say, a big city like Paris? Which on paper should be equally urban and comparable, but....

(redacted)

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 05:47 PM

The results of the French WAIS III (1999) and the French WAIS IV (2008–9) are compared based on a sample of 79 subjects aged between 30 years and 63 years who took both tests in 2008–2009.

79 subjects ? That sounds like a really small pool for such a study.. not even mentioning that IQ tests are barely scientific.

You're an inch away from talking about eugenics, aren't you ..? :D

Pokesan

07-10-2016, 05:52 PM

anyone got some s*ckass /pol/ opinions??

AzzarTheGod

07-10-2016, 05:59 PM

anyone got some s*ckass /pol/ opinions??

Will accept any statistics at all on Marseilles.

Anyone going to step up?

big_ole_jpn

07-10-2016, 06:00 PM

anyone got some s*ckass /pol/ opinions??

trolling is degenerate

-t. fashy goy

Pokesan

07-10-2016, 06:04 PM

Will accept any statistics at all on Marseilles.

Anyone going to step up?

OLYMPIQUE DE MARSEILLE
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Olympique de Marseille
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Founded1899Address La Commanderie, 33, traverse de La Martine
13012
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Y. Pelé
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B. Samba
22 years old
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B. Aloé
22 years old
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G. Andonian
21 years old
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H. Bedimo
32 years old
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B. Dja Djédjé
25 years old
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Dória
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E. Haugan
18 years old
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T. Hubočan
30 years old
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J. Nlaté
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Rolando
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K. Rekik
21 years old
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H. Sakai
26 years old
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A. Sane
20 years old
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S. Sparagna
21 years old
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B. Tuiloma
21 years old
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Midfielders

R. Alessandrini
27 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

J. Da Costa
20 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

A. Diaby
30 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

L. Diarra
31 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

S. Khaoui
21 years old
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A. Kraichi
27 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

M. Lopez
18 years old
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G. N'Koudou
21 years old
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B. Sarr
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A. Zambo Anguissa
20 years old
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J. Porsan-Clemente
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A. Rabillard
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big_ole_jpn

07-10-2016, 06:07 PM

OLYMPIQUE DE MARSEILLE
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Squad
Statistics
Transfers
Trophies
Venue

INFO
Olympique de Marseille
Official website

Founded1899Address La Commanderie, 33, traverse de La Martine
13012
Marseille CountryFrancePhone+33 (49) 176 5609Fax +33 (49) 176 9129 E-mailom@olympiquedemarseille.com
VENUE
Stade Vélodrome
NameStade VélodromeCityMarseilleCapacity67394
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Competition:AllLigue 1Coupe de FranceCoupe de la LigueClub Friendlies
Show:AllHomeAway
« Previous Next »
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1 - 1
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Olympique Mars… View events More info
Sat 07/05/16 LI1 Olympique Mars…
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Reims View events More info
Sat 14/05/16 LI1 Troyes
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Olympique Mars… View events More info
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10 : 30
Lausanne Sport More info
Thu 14/07/16 CLF Nîmes
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Olympique Mars… More info
Wed 20/07/16 CLF Olympique Mars…
11 : 00
Ajax More info
Sun 24/07/16 CLF Alemannia Aachen
06 : 00
Olympique Mars… More info
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Olympique Mars… More info
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J. Fabri
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Y. Pelé
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B. Samba
22 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0
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B. Aloé
22 years old
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G. Andonian
21 years old
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H. Bedimo
32 years old
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B. Dja Djédjé
25 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

Dória
21 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

E. Haugan
18 years old
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T. Hubočan
30 years old
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J. Nlaté
20 years old
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Rolando
30 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

K. Rekik
21 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

H. Sakai
26 years old
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A. Sane
20 years old
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S. Sparagna
21 years old
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B. Tuiloma
21 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0
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R. Alessandrini
27 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

J. Da Costa
20 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

A. Diaby
30 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

L. Diarra
31 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

S. Khaoui
21 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

A. Kraichi
27 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

M. Lopez
18 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

G. N'Koudou
21 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

B. Sarr
24 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

A. Zambo Anguissa
20 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0
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A. Mouhammadou
21 years old
Appearances 0 Goal 0

J. Porsan-Clemente
18 years old
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A. Rabillard
20 years old
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F. Passi

can we get a breakdown of performance of these players by ethnicity plz pokesan.

I saw a Mohammedan looking name in there. That's degenerate af tbh fam.

AzzarTheGod

07-10-2016, 06:08 PM

E-mailom@olympiquedemarseille.com we're gonna get so much sick info now and form so many opinions

Raev

07-10-2016, 06:13 PM

I never said that, i was answering the other moron who apparently thought we had sticks and stones for weapons.

Does it matter what weapons you have when French people are using them? When was the last time France won a military encounter with . . . anyone?

France was kicked out of Cambodia by the Viet Cong (Dien Bien Phu being the crowning disaster).
France was conquered by the Germans in WW II in a mere month after years preparing for war by building the Maginot Line.
France kind of didn't lose vs Germany in WW I, but Britain (naval blockade) and the US (additional ground troops that countered Germany's new tactics in 1917) actually did the heavy lifting.
France was soundly beaten by Prussia in 1870, losing two provinces
France fought Austria to a draw in 1859 (the battle was such a disaster for both sides that it led to the creation of the Red Cross)
Napoleon was a superb general and won many battles, yet in the end France was utterly conquered by the British/Prussian alliance at Waterloo.
Louis XIV didn't exactly win the War of Spanish Succession; his grandson was forced to forfeit his claim to the crown of France and he was beaten by Marlborough at Blenheim among others. France was partially conquered by the English for most of the Middle Ages, with famous victories at Crecy and Agincourt.

I guess you have to go back to William the Conquerer and the invasion of England (1050 AD) and Charles Martel halting the Moors at Poitiers (750 AD) for real French military success.

Lune

07-10-2016, 06:34 PM

Napoleon was a superb general and won many battles, yet in the end France was utterly conquered by the British/Prussian alliance at Waterloo.

Nonsense. Summing up Napoleonic France's legacy like this is like saying Nazi Germany had no military success because in the end it was eventually defeated and conquered.

Every country has a litany of embarrassing military incompetence, including the United States. Germany, in spite of probably being the greatest military culture of modern times (laid the foundational doctrine for the modern US military), ended up on the losing side of two world wars and lost half its territory. At least the French were smart enough diplomatically to end up on the winning side each time.

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 06:38 PM

Does it matter what weapons you have when French people are using them? When was the last time France won a military encounter with . . . anyone?

France was kicked out of Cambodia by the Viet Cong (Dien Bien Phu being the crowning disaster).
France was conquered by the Germans in WW II in a mere month after years preparing for war by building the Maginot Line.
France kind of didn't lose vs Germany in WW I, but Britain (naval blockade) and the US (additional ground troops that countered Germany's new tactics in 1917) actually did the heavy lifting.
France was soundly beaten by Prussia in 1870, losing two provinces
France fought Austria to a draw in 1859 (the battle was such a disaster for both sides that it led to the creation of the Red Cross)
Napoleon was a superb general and won many battles, yet in the end France was utterly conquered by the British/Prussian alliance at Waterloo.
Louis XIV didn't exactly win the War of Spanish Succession; his grandson was forced to forfeit his claim to the crown of France and he was beaten by Marlborough at Blenheim among others. France was partially conquered by the English for most of the Middle Ages, with famous victories at Crecy and Agincourt.

I guess you have to go back to William the Conquerer and the invasion of England (1050 AD) and Charles Martel halting the Moors at Poitiers (750 AD) for real French military success.

oh damn, you're really good at copypasta, are you ? if half of this were true, France wouldn't exist today. try to think on your own for once:

http://i.imgur.com/DfJ3RhE.gif

http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp

..and for the lulz :D : https://warisboring.com/the-french-shot-down-u-s-stealth-fighter-f59db16282ca#.7o2z2ts0d + http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/162488/how-a-30_year-old-french-sub-sank-a-us-carrier-group.html

i understand you guys are fed since your younger age by hollywood that USA is the greatest and mightiest and saves the world every day, but real world is not that simple.. damn i even remember that movie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-571_(film)) where USA decipher enigma during WWII and saves the world.. when it's actually the brits that deciphered enigma. Hell even the next Battlefield set in world war one won't even have the french or russian (https://www.the-newshub.com/gaming/battlefield-1-wont-include-france-and-russia-as-nations).. Hell i even had someone told me that USA won WW2 on their own. That's just downright disrespectful to the russians that actually have just as many credit than the US, not even mentioning the many many nationalities including australians, canadians, new zealander and yes, even free french.. that died in the normandy landings. Makes you wonder who's rewriting history, right ? :D

Raev

07-10-2016, 06:53 PM

Every country has a litany of embarrassing military incompetence, including the United States.
Sure, but we at least win SOME of the time. In fact, the US has won (French and Indian War (again, everyone beats the French), War of Independence, War of 1812, Mexican War, Spanish-American War, WW 1, WW 2, Korea, Iraq 1) a lot more than we have lost (Vietnam, Iraq 2 (nominally a win, but c'mon)).

At least the French were smart enough diplomatically to end up on the winning side each time.
We can agree the French are successful diplomats! Talleyrand sounds like a great guy to have dinner with.

oh damn, you're really good at copypasta, are you ?
You take that back you French whore! Every word of that came from my personal brain.

]if half of this were true, France wouldn't exist today.
All of it is true you tool. In your long ragepost you failed to point out a single error.

i understand you guys are fed since your younger age by hollywood that USA is the greatest and mightiest and saves the world every day, but real world is not that simple.
You can argue about the relative contributions of the US, UK, and USSR vs Nazi Germany. What you can't argue is that France got slapped like a redheaded stepchild.

Pokesan

07-10-2016, 06:57 PM

Was it France or the United States that lost the Iraq war?

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 07:11 PM

You take that back you French whore! Every word of that came from my personal brain.

All of it is true you tool. In your long ragepost you failed to point out a single error.

You can argue about the relative contributions of the US, UK, and USSR vs Nazi Germany. What you can't argue is that France got slapped like a redheaded stepchild.

Yes Raev, we survived Prussia, the Ottoman empire and 800 years of continuous rivalry with England, but we lost every-single-battle-ever. I'm not gonna do the military history of a 2000 year old country, i'm sure you can find that by yourself on the internet.. and i don't mean dick cheney's blog.

Oh and yeah, we got totally bitchslapped by the germans. Nobody denies that. Just like pretty much everyone on continental europe, remember the polish beat in 3 days ..? do you think they're scum ? i could tell you how the Free French Forces didn't accept the defeat and kept on fighting mainly in north africa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_France), but i wonder if you would believe it since michael bay never made a movie about it.

At least americans at the time weren't the cocky little shitstains that you get as republican candidates now. ( cf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbfcRu4UPbg one of the best movie ever made <3 )

Blitzers

07-10-2016, 07:12 PM

I'm so glad you said this. This is the kind of thing I assume lies in the dark corners of many conservatives minds but they just won't come out and say it.

You mean the TRUTH, we say it a lot you dumbasses can't comprehend it.

Raev

07-10-2016, 07:24 PM

Yes Raev, we survived Prussia, the Ottoman empire and 800 years of continuous rivalry with England, but we lost every-single-battle-ever. I'm not gonna do the military history of a 2000 year old country

So first you claim everything I wrote was wrong, then you claim you don't know?

I'm just feeling bad for you at this point, so let me simply say that my troll post was a great example of correct but biased writing. Basically when France lost the battle and won the war, I said they lost the battle. When France won the battle and lost the war, I said they lost the war. Lune kind of figured this out, because despite his socialist tendencies he's basically a smart guy.

Still, even with a less biased approach, France has come out second best quite frequently vs England and Germany (let's not mention my native Italy which managed to lose with tanks vs Ethiopian spearmen). I'm sure there is a suitably racist explanation for it all.

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 08:00 PM

So first you claim everything I wrote was wrong, then you claim you don't know?

I'm just feeling bad for you at this point, so let me simply say that my troll post was a great example of correct but biased writing. Basically when France lost the battle and won the war, I said they lost the battle. When France won the battle and lost the war, I said they lost the war. Lune kind of figured this out, because despite his socialist tendencies he's basically a smart guy.

Still, even with a less biased approach, France has come out second best quite frequently vs England and Germany (let's not mention my native Italy which managed to lose with tanks vs Ethiopian spearmen). I'm sure there is a suitably racist explanation for it all.

Battle of menton in June of 1940: 9 french soldiers against 5000 italians. After 800 losses for none on the french side, italians just waited for the armistice. :rolleyes: (cf: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/06/eric-margolis/they-shall-not-pass/ )

as for the military history, i already provided you with a link here: http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp

Tally is, on 191 wars/battles etc etc:

119 wins (62,3%)
54 losses (28,3%)
18 draws (9,4%)

Not too bad for a country smaller than texas.

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 08:13 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aYXetC9VGo

http://i.imgur.com/EAWKLux.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MttkhPy.jpg

:D

AzzarTheGod

07-10-2016, 08:19 PM

Jarnauga

07-10-2016, 08:48 PM

It has come to my attention that France was dunked on in WW2 after a decade of war preparation and barrier creation.

If France is so great and dominant as that expansion map shows, how did they get slapped across the map by a war-torn 2nd world nation after WW1?

Is it possible that all French land gains were not military conquests and/or victories, but rather litigated by zog (you called it French diplomacy in this instance).

Is it possible that France has never paid the Iron Price for anything?

Oh we did pay the iron price. More than you ever will. If you ever come to france, you'll basically walk on blood. You can go to any small village in france, and you'll see a monument to the dead that came from that village. I live near Oradour-Sur-Glane (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane_massacre). Every year we still find bombs that didn't explode, and have to call deminers. Actually had to call them because we had some construction at my work, and the area had been bombed in WW2 since it's close to a trainstation.. just in case. At the current rate, we think we're gonna be done with them all in 800 years. There's even a 450 squared miles zone where it's forbidden to build or even live because it's been shelled so much. Ever heard of the "gueules cassées" ? well french have pretty much pioneered reconstructive chirurgy.. see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK0dQdfF9K4 (beware: can be shocking).

We're not trigger happy cowboys with war like you guys are. We actually know the price.

Tecmos Deception

07-10-2016, 08:50 PM

Hey Raev.

Are you going to go away now, or will they be forced to taunt you a second time?

big_ole_jpn

07-10-2016, 09:04 PM

remember the polish beat in 3 days ..? do you think they're scum ?

loling hard

Raev

07-10-2016, 09:04 PM

Hey Raev.

Are you going to go away now, or will they be forced to taunt you a second time?

Ahh, great British comedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vAvoaOaJNM

Lune

07-10-2016, 09:56 PM

I will always love France mostly because a certain popstar (https://youtu.be/Q6omsDyFNlk?t=3m) inspired quite the sexual awakening in teenage Lune and my room never smelled the same after that

big_ole_jpn

07-10-2016, 10:03 PM

didn't click lank but i too remember my alizee.avi

Daywolf

07-10-2016, 10:54 PM

I literally have 3 more times chances to get shot in the US than i do in "no weapons allowed" france.

http://i.imgur.com/IyDBKH7.png
Three times more likely to get shot in the US compared to a country with no weapons allowed? huh?

And actually that is pretty sad, sounds way worse than my neighborhood where we are armed to the teeth and never had a shooting since houses were first built here some 30yrs ago. But then this isn't a Democrat liberal controlled big city where most of those murders take place. In some of those cities, police have been literally driven out of communities by the residents and left to fend for themselves.

Who gives two F's about France anyway? The French side of my family left before the revolution, then fought against the British in the American revolution. If they would have stayed in France, likely they would have been slaughtered in the defeat of the French by the French.

Your little image is dumb. Of course we use more oil, the US is actually really big and not everyone is piled into liberal controlled cities and take the bus. Electricity use, sure, it's much hotter here too, run AC and we also like to bath here. 0bamacare is expensive, sure, more liberal globalist BS that needs to be defeated like France again. Your list is all about inner city shiat, which I always urge people the move the hell out of, just like the smart French got out of France over 200 years ago and the not so bright stayed behind while the rest were slaughtered at the guillotine. Weren't you like middle-eastern, anyway? something like that... something other than French descent.

As far as for French defeats, not totally accurate. In the case of "de Gaulle Syndrome" where French do win wars, in the case were Americans do most of the fighting. I'd thank France for the little belated help in the American revolution, but they were all murdered on Bastille day some years later, that France stopped existing long ago.

Pokesan

07-10-2016, 11:45 PM

crank up the song of roland and get a better opinion ameridorks

Archalen

07-10-2016, 11:58 PM

Casein is a milk protein, though. I can believe that drinking large quantities of milk as an adult could cause problems (especially without fermentation) as it isn't really a natural thing to do. That's why I said I was more interested in the meat part.

Right. The casein part is the rat study (milk protein) which is kind of tangential to the huge population study (animal protein in general is the conclusion). I've read the whole thing, you can just do China Study PDF and find it for free; I did a few years ago anyway. It's extremely interesting. I had no dog in the fight when I read it but after that and further study, did amend my diet. Nutritional science does have a long way to go, but Campbell's research is more convincing to me than the keto and paleo research. There's a debate on youtube between Colin Campbell (plant-based) and Eric Westman (keto) that is pretty good. Obviously I'm no nutritional scientist, but was convinced at the time I pulled together the research.

Daldolma

07-11-2016, 12:11 AM

I live near Oradour-Sur-Glane (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane_massacre). Every year we still find bombs that didn't explode, and have to call deminers. Actually had to call them because we had some construction at my work, and the area had been bombed in WW2 since it's close to a trainstation.. just in case. At the current rate, we think we're gonna be done with them all in 800 years. There's even a 450 squared miles zone where it's forbidden to build or even live because it's been shelled so much.

this is like the worst advertisement for france ever, you almost make being surrounded by french people seem like a secondary concern

USA USA USA

Archalen

07-11-2016, 12:14 AM

I googled a bit more:

Even if this is true, it doesn't seem like a very strong finding. 10% of calories in an adult male would be 60g of casein or over 2 quarts of cow's milk. I don't think very many people drink that much. Apparently there are some people who believe casein free diets can improve autism, and some people are allergic to it. There is also a strain of probiotics, lactobacillus casei, that help humans break down casein.

Maybe I am not seeing the whole picture yet, but so far it seems to me to be a long way from this study to 'you shouldn't drink milk' let alone 'you shouldn't eat meat'.

It's quite a research project. I remember reading the literature and then going through a list of criticisms (https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/16klzm/keto_vs_the_china_study/) to make sure there weren't any obvious statistical flaws. The more amateur critics I could refute myself, the more nuanced ones happened to be answered by Colin Campbell (like Denise Minger), and I'm glad he did because I wouldn't have known any better. Also Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn has done group studies on the subject (http://www.dresselstyn.com/site/study03/), and in my opinion, pretty damning evidence. I was proud that a heart surgeon my girlfriend's mom went to see actually referenced Esselstyn's work, as I didn't think it was too widely known.

AzzarTheGod

07-11-2016, 04:45 AM

Oh we did pay the iron price. More than you ever will. If you ever come to france, you'll basically walk on blood. You can go to any small village in france, and you'll see a monument to the dead that came from that village. I live near Oradour-Sur-Glane (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane_massacre). Every year we still find bombs that didn't explode, and have to call deminers. Actually had to call them because we had some construction at my work, and the area had been bombed in WW2 since it's close to a trainstation.. just in case. At the current rate, we think we're gonna be done with them all in 800 years. There's even a 450 squared miles zone where it's forbidden to build or even live because it's been shelled so much. Ever heard of the "gueules cassées" ? well french have pretty much pioneered reconstructive chirurgy.. see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK0dQdfF9K4 (beware: can be shocking).

We're not trigger happy cowboys with war like you guys are. We actually know the price.

And what of that shirt and your necklace you are wearing right now? Did you pay the iron price for those as well?

Or did a diplomat negotiate them for you like a whore.

Daywolf

07-11-2016, 05:44 AM

So as you guys know, over the weekend, more cops murdered and injured http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/09/chaos-in-baton-rouge-the-new-black-panthers-are-here/ I hardly call these "protests", this is dissension of a racist movement as it plunges the country into lawlessness. A protest is this (https://youtu.be/hTMPZh0H0_g) and one that succeeded with help of all. No way in hell I'd stand with Soros' BLM, they are nothing but a race group intent on destroying this nation.

If this were the KKK which has remained "peaceful" for decades (btw which was created by the Dems to murder blacks and conservative whites) or if it were the Tea Party (which Dems claimed is a racist group and is dangerous and will start killing people etc. - which was never the truth and never happened) well you guys would be calling us out directly responsible without end.

And even in the case of the Don, it never ends the calling him a racist, same damn thing. Even when he denounces the kkk (which isn't the violent BLM - though they still sux) a dozen times, they keep at it until he gets annoyed with the leftist reporters and then they squeak "see?!? racist!!".

Well you libs here need to start jumping though hoops denouncing the BLM and the racist message they are infesting the country with. It's an evil message, based on lies (hands up don't shoot never happened (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/03/19/hands-up-dont-shoot-did-not-happen-in-ferguson/) - flat out lie and what the BLM was founded on), and causing people who listen to it to go out and murder Americans. BLM is a cancer, and 0bamas race bating comments over the weekend to fuel the hate as he parties with his globalist friends out of the country, well imo he shouldn't even be welcomed back into this country. Disgraceful!

LostCause

07-11-2016, 06:10 AM

media in 2016 lolol

Ahldagor

07-11-2016, 08:37 AM

Daywolf, still waiting on the discernment of my assertation that you're a feckless coward.

Jarnauga

07-11-2016, 09:34 AM

People in this thread

http://i.imgur.com/JRuhBRd.png

Raev

07-11-2016, 11:00 AM

It's quite a research project. I remember reading the literature and then going through a list of criticisms (https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/16klzm/keto_vs_the_china_study/) to make sure there weren't any obvious statistical flaws. The more amateur critics I could refute myself, the more nuanced ones happened to be answered by Colin Campbell (like Denise Minger), and I'm glad he did because I wouldn't have known any better. Also Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn has done group studies on the subject (http://www.dresselstyn.com/site/study03/), and in my opinion, pretty damning evidence. I was proud that a heart surgeon my girlfriend's mom went to see actually referenced Esselstyn's work, as I didn't think it was too widely known.

I skimmed some of this and it seems like a gigantic mess. Campbell claims that Minger isn't including enough potential confounding factors. Minger claims that Campbell doesn't bother with confounding factors when the data proves his point, and that he has never tied consumption of animal products to actual disease (only to things that are correlated with disease, like cholesterol). Esselstyn's article that you linked seems to mostly assume its conclusion to me.

Personally I have mostly abandoned the inductive approach to health. Things are simply so, so complicated. For example, there was a big study done that heart disease was much lower in the Mediterranean countries, and the authors suggested eating fish and olive oil. Well, it turns out that most of those people were Greek Orthodox, which contains an aggressive intermittent fasting program. Or China, for example, is a massive hotbed of industrial pollution. It wouldn't surprise me if the people in the cities were richer, eating more meat, and also exposed to more industrial chemicals. Or you have some cultures that are simply more stressful (Japan/USA) than others (South America/Western Europe). Or you may have (god forbid) nonlinear effects that aren't easily modeled no matter how many cofounders you add. And then of course we have to concern ourselves with the composition of the gut microbiome, which is tremendously important. So again, I just find the whole thing to be a gigantic mess.

Since I am not confident in inductive approaches, I proceed deductively. I'm most confident in Paleolithic foods like potatoes, grass fed meats, wild caught fish, organ meats, bone broth, vegetables, free range eggs, and small quantities of nuts. I'm moderately confident in traditionally prepared Neolithic foods like fermented raw milk products, soy sauce, sauerkraut, sprouted heirloom wheat, and white rice. And I'm least confident in Industrial foods that are heavily refined (sugar, corn syrup, vegetable oils), hybridized (fruit, wheat), or put animals in unhealthy environments (confinement beef, farm raised salmon, supermarket eggs, confinement dairy).

Anyway, I realize this is a bit of a dodge, but in the end I just feel that this kind of thing is too difficult to measure empirically to have really solid conclusions.

Daywolf

07-11-2016, 11:32 AM

Daywolf, still waiting on the discernment of my assertation that you're a feckless coward.
I don't even know wtf you are talking about troll. All your posts are full of holes, much like your brain. All ya do is talk out your ass, it's normal for you. So yawn..

Ahldagor

07-11-2016, 01:38 PM

I don't even know wtf you are talking about troll. All your posts are full of holes, much like your brain. All ya do is talk out your ass, it's normal for you. So yawn..

Stop evading. I set you up to show off your discernment skills, so let's see them.

Original claim: Your thinking culminates with such behavior unless you're a feckless coward.

Raev

07-11-2016, 01:38 PM

Daywolf, still waiting on the discernment of my assertation that you're a feckless coward.

Let's break this sentence down:

discernment: ability to judge well

assertation: statement

feckless: lacking in strength of character

Rewriting into simpler English gives: Daywolf, I'm still waiting on your ability to judge my statement that you are a coward without strength of character.

Which seems pretty nonsensical to me.

Pokesan

07-11-2016, 01:46 PM

Well yes, because you wrote in nonsensically.

He's challenging Daywolf to reply to the question instead of going off on an irrelevant tangent like always.

Raev

07-11-2016, 01:50 PM

He's challenging Daywolf to reply to the question instead of going off on an irrelevant tangent like always.
I suppose that's what he meant, but I don't think that's what he said. I could be wrong; I'm a computer scientist not an English major.

The guy had no connections to any group which he admitted before he was justifiably killed by Dallas PD. He was a lone wolf and acted from the same thought processes as Timothy McVeigh and you. Your thinking culminates with such behavior unless you're a feckless coward.
This seems to be the original quote, and it looks like Ahlgador is claiming Daywolf is a feckless coward because he didn't shoot police officers or blow up a building with a truck full of fertilizer.

Jarnauga

07-11-2016, 01:55 PM

Three times more likely to get shot in the US compared to a country with no weapons allowed? huh?

Per 100,000:

Homicides
-fr= 1 (2012)
-us= 4,5 (2013)

Rape
-fr= 16,2 (2009)
-us= 26,9 (2011)

Robbery
-fr= 10,8 (2004)
-us= 146,4 (2006)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Robberies#2006

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_France?wprov=sfla1

But yeah, guns = less crimes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Damn liberal internet bias again !

Pokesan

07-11-2016, 01:56 PM

I suppose that's what he meant, but I don't think that's what he said. I could be wrong; I'm a computer scientist not an English major.

This seems to be the original quote, and it looks like Ahlgador is claiming Daywolf is a feckless coward because he didn't shoot police officers or blow up a building with a truck full of fertilizer.

Doubtful he's actually challenging Daywolf to do violence. I read it as 'if you really believe things are as bad as you claim, aren't you obligated to take action?' & 'Tone it down please'

I don't disagree with the sentiment and I think it's just a forums slapfight.

fash

07-11-2016, 02:18 PM

Per 100,000:

Homicides
-fr= 1 (2012)
-us= 4,5 (2013)

Rape
-fr= 16,2 (2009)
-us= 26,9 (2011)

Robbery
-fr= 10,8 (2004)
-us= 146,4 (2006)

White population %
-fr= 85%
-us= 63%

Blitzers

07-11-2016, 02:22 PM

This is an Alpha-Male problem between Cops and Black Males. NOT racism. Cops have to play an Alpha Role while performing law enforcement duties, and many cops are not Alphas and fail badly at that role. Black males are forced at a young age to take on an Alpha Male Role within thier family, due to Leftist policy (welfare) and Ideology (feminism) which is leaving black families absent of REAL Alpha male mentors that are vested in the best interest of the black male youth. The black male youth then search for Alpha male mentors outside the family to have a Male Bond, and are subject to the "gangster culture" where Alpha male status is determined by disobeying law. The Corporate Media's constant glorification of "gangster culture" is warping the minds of young Black males. Couple these destructive forces together and it creates a disdain for law enforcement and tension when these 2 "alpha males" interact.

Get the Fathers who are the Families vested Alpha Males raising your children again and this problem will dissipate significantly.

Quit trying to OVER-ANALYZE a simple problem.

Pokesan

07-11-2016, 02:37 PM

you can tell someones an expert when they say alpha male 9 times in one post

Jarnauga

07-11-2016, 02:42 PM

White population %
-fr= 85%
-us= 63%

I wonder where you get that figure since racial statistics are forbidden in france.. see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_censuses?wprov=sfla1

You guys ever heard about citing sources or you actually stopped going to school after 12 ?

maskedmelon

07-11-2016, 02:49 PM

Archalen

07-11-2016, 03:17 PM

you can tell someones an expert when they say alpha male 9 times in one post

The red-pillization of science and politics.

Ahldagor

07-11-2016, 03:59 PM

Doubtful he's actually challenging Daywolf to do violence. I read it as 'if you really believe things are as bad as you claim, aren't you obligated to take action?' & 'Tone it down please'

I don't disagree with the sentiment and I think it's just a forums slapfight.

Essentially, yes. Daywolf's world view predetermines his perception, and I was holding out hope that he would step outside his echo chamber in order to see that. Likely, almost certainly, futile efforts. Though I do have a notion that some of his motivation is a feeling of lacking agency in his situation.

Blitzers

07-11-2016, 04:00 PM

you can tell someones an expert when they say alpha male 9 times in one post

Typical response from someone that should've been aborted.

Pokesan

07-11-2016, 04:28 PM

Typical response from someone that should've been aborted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcyOoPDlSuU

Baler

07-11-2016, 04:36 PM

I feel bad for the real good honest hard working black community.

I have a black friend who has been pulled over several times and just been given a warning for something arbitrary. He even works IT at a major corporate business in the local area. Drives a nice car and raised his children right. He is scared to go on vacation in fear that people will judge him a certain way after all that has happened.

I feel bad for him. He is a good man. Who Shouldn't fear the world coming down on him just because of his skin color.

---
Side Post Not related to my initial post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4

fash

07-11-2016, 04:53 PM

I wonder where you get that figure since racial statistics are forbidden in france.. see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_censuses?wprov=sfla1

You guys ever heard about citing sources or you actually stopped going to school after 12 ?

Because I'm shitposting, not publishing a paper. It's demographics you can google in 30 seconds ffs, lazy Frenchy. Here http://www.conventioncitoyenne.com/documents/oubliesdelegalite.pdf

AzzarTheGod

07-11-2016, 06:14 PM

People in this thread

http://i.imgur.com/JRuhBRd.png

So you negotiated both your shirt and your necklace that you are wearing now.

Confirmed no iron price paid by France for World War 2 surrender.

GJ handing them the keys to the city and one of the largest strategic victories in the blitzkrieg offensive to contain and control Britain.

Jarnauga

07-11-2016, 07:21 PM

Because I'm shitposting, not publishing a paper. It's demographics you can google in 30 seconds ffs, lazy Frenchy. Here http://www.conventioncitoyenne.com/documents/oubliesdelegalite.pdf

you just linked a 270 pages long french report on how to fight the job discrimination against the "visible minorities" in france.. care to give me the exact page ?

Daywolf

07-11-2016, 07:35 PM

Per 100,000:

Homicides
-fr= 1 (2012)
-us= 4,5 (2013)

Rape
-fr= 16,2 (2009)
-us= 26,9 (2011)

Robbery
-fr= 10,8 (2004)
-us= 146,4 (2006)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfla1

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Robberies#2006

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_France?wprov=sfla1

But yeah, guns = less crimes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Damn liberal internet bias again !
Nah those stats come mostly out of liberal controlled inner cities such as http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-4-killed-39-hurt-in-weekend-shootings-20160711-story.html
See here, reposting that vid from post# 156: Broke Party: Inner-City Blacks Abandoning Obama & Democrat's Liberal Agenda (https://youtu.be/fdTihf2_GGM)
That's exactly what it is, it's inner-city garbage, and the libs don't give a crap. But their suffering makes for the desired narrative, such as they got you thinking and posting about.

You know the Paris terrorist attack last year? One of those guns used came out of Arizona. (http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/06/law-enforcement-sources-gun-used-paris-terrorist-attacks-came-phoenix/) The guy that sold the gun was a known criminal that the ATF ignored and let him sell guns w/o notifying local law enforcement. This is because they were running a completely fail program referred to as "gun walking" or Fast and Furious (and some claim still are doing it). This is a program 0bama was running, to try to track guns to criminal leaders to arrest them. But it totally failed and simply equipped criminals not only inside the US but outside. Thousands and thousands of guns flooded into criminal organizations, and at least one was linked to the Paris Massacre.

This is why I've been saying lately a gun ban on the federal gov. This administration is completely out of control, and not even mentioning the CIA programs arming terrorists. This is the 0bama the entire world, including France, urged the US to elect 7yrs ago as some sort of messiah. So again, why should I give two F's about France? At least Britain got the right idea with Brexit to shake off the globalists chains. Liberal policies are fail, and twist the truth for the narrative to produce the desired results.

Daywolf

07-11-2016, 07:57 PM

Archalen

07-11-2016, 08:04 PM

I skimmed some of this and it seems like a gigantic mess. Campbell claims that Minger isn't including enough potential confounding factors. Minger claims that Campbell doesn't bother with confounding factors when the data proves his point, and that he has never tied consumption of animal products to actual disease (only to things that are correlated with disease, like cholesterol). Esselstyn's article that you linked seems to mostly assume its conclusion to me.

Personally I have mostly abandoned the inductive approach to health. Things are simply so, so complicated. For example, there was a big study done that heart disease was much lower in the Mediterranean countries, and the authors suggested eating fish and olive oil. Well, it turns out that most of those people were Greek Orthodox, which contains an aggressive intermittent fasting program. Or China, for example, is a massive hotbed of industrial pollution. It wouldn't surprise me if the people in the cities were richer, eating more meat, and also exposed to more industrial chemicals. Or you have some cultures that are simply more stressful (Japan/USA) than others (South America/Western Europe). Or you may have (god forbid) nonlinear effects that aren't easily modeled no matter how many cofounders you add. And then of course we have to concern ourselves with the composition of the gut microbiome, which is tremendously important. So again, I just find the whole thing to be a gigantic mess.

Since I am not confident in inductive approaches, I proceed deductively. I'm most confident in Paleolithic foods like potatoes, grass fed meats, wild caught fish, organ meats, bone broth, vegetables, free range eggs, and small quantities of nuts. I'm moderately confident in traditionally prepared Neolithic foods like fermented raw milk products, soy sauce, sauerkraut, sprouted heirloom wheat, and white rice. And I'm least confident in Industrial foods that are heavily refined (sugar, corn syrup, vegetable oils), hybridized (fruit, wheat), or put animals in unhealthy environments (confinement beef, farm raised salmon, supermarket eggs, confinement dairy).

Anyway, I realize this is a bit of a dodge, but in the end I just feel that this kind of thing is too difficult to measure empirically to have really solid conclusions.

Some of what you mention is discussed further in the China Study. Those are serious questions.

I personally think one shouldn't discount either since science goes both ways, but understand the complexity factor.

Just to simplify it to a study that's much easier to talk about, the below study was conducted by Esselstyn and colleagues on reversing Heart Disease (which is incredibly hard to do historically; it's hard enough to just stop it, let alone reverse it). The diet is outlined in the study, plant-based, no added oils. There were 177 adherent (21 non-adherent) participants who had Cardiovascular Disease. Only one adherent patient had a cardiovascular event related to nutritional intervention after amending their diet. Out of the 21 non-adherents, 13 had cardiovascular events. You can see the PET scans show an increased bloodflow in adherents:

http://dresselstyn.com/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf

1/177 versus 13/21 are some crazy numbers.

Jarnauga

07-11-2016, 08:11 PM

Nah those stats come mostly out of liberal controlled inner cities such as http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-4-killed-39-hurt-in-weekend-shootings-20160711-story.html
See here, reposting that vid from post# 156: Broke Party: Inner-City Blacks Abandoning Obama & Democrat's Liberal Agenda (https://youtu.be/fdTihf2_GGM)
That's exactly what it is, it's inner-city garbage, and the libs don't give a crap. But their suffering makes for the desired narrative, such as they got you thinking and posting about.

so what, big cities are not part of america now..? 30% of the USA live in a city wirth more than 5 million people, 75% of the population is considered urban..

Daywolf

07-11-2016, 08:27 PM

so what, big cities are not part of america now..? 30% of the USA live in a city wirth more than 5 million people, 75% of the population is considered urban..
When 0bama is out there with the us vs them narrative (and based on lies), it's not me saying inner-cities are not a part of America, it's the globalist elite like 0bama. I'll mention it again, I grew up in LA, btw. Cities really suck, and to my fellow countrymen if you live in a city, now is the time to start exploring your options to get out, even if you gotta commute an hour to work etc (I can feel the heat of Jarn's seething over the additional consumption of fuel by my suggestion hehe).

Yeah, this aint France, man. You know up north it's the law to carry a gun? Get raped by bears etc. It's not a gun problem, it's a criminal problem, and this administration's desperate attempts to divide the nation by fire.

Raev

07-11-2016, 08:52 PM

Archalen

07-11-2016, 09:11 PM

It's definitely an impressive result, but at the same time it's easy for me to come up with some counter arguments.

First, it looks like Esselstyn recommends a diet of about 10-15% calories from fat. This will taste like cardboard, and as a result people will eat far fewer calories which will activate intermittent fasting/low calorie genes that are thought to be very effective vs heart disease and cancer.

Second, the study is on very shaky methodological ground. The participants are self-selected, not randomized, which instantly completely invalidates it as a tool for average people with heart disease. For obvious reasons there is no control group, and aside from the placebo effect the comparison of the adherent vs non-adherent groups is very misleading. Considering the willpower required to eat cardboard all day, it would not surprise me at all if the causality ran the other way: the people where the diet was failing got depressed or disgusted and hit the ice cream aisle.

Third, the Standard American Diet is just so so so so so fucking bad. Literally not a single thing the average American eats (confinement animal products, soybean oil, soda, wheat) is healthy. For example, we don't know what fraction of the results are due to the massive increase in vegetable consumption which probably fixed numerous nutrient deficiencies, or the reduction in inflammatory omega-6 fatty acids, etc.

Anyway, I don't say this to detract from Dr. Esselstyn's work (he seems like quite a boss, by the way. Olympic gold in rowing, tour in Vietnam, hundreds of peer reviewed publications). I think there is no question that his diet is healthier than the SAD (not hard to do, of course). But at the same time, I hope you can see why I don't find this kind of thing super convincing as the holy grail.

Definitely not the holy grail, as you say lack of controls, which is unfortunate. One can come up with many many possible reasons why it worked so well. And he does admit the limitations at the end. But there is a kind of overall trend I see, where vegetarian seems to help overall health a little and complete plant-based seems to help it even more (like, an incredible amount more). There are biochemical analogues for their propositions as to what the data might indicate by the way (we know some mechanisms of fiber on heart disease for example), which is where mechanisms of nutrition comes into play to give viable explanations for what's happening in the general study (why I mentioned my opinion on science going all ways). So I guess I'm just saying that this study doesn't happen in a vacuum where explanations can be proposed ad. infinitum. Again, readily admit I'm no expert. There wasn't one study in particular that just blew me away, but an overall trend and some decent science. More to come I'm sure in the future. If it happens that Campell and Esseltyn are correct, the dairy and animal agribusiness isn't going to like that very much.

Forgot to mention that I make some meals from the China Study cookbook and there are some tasty meals in there which meet his criteria. Maybe if you go straight from standard American diet to that it might be a challenge, I did it in slow increments.

Daywolf

07-11-2016, 09:32 PM

hah great rant vid:
Uncensored American Goes Off On Black Lives Matter (https://youtu.be/kTI5I6gtu3Y)
"Published on Jul 11, 2016

Infowars Reporter Joe Biggs Found this video on Social Media. It's of a Man Going off on Black Lives Matter in what might be one of the best rants of the year."

I looked for the original, I didn't want to take a lot of time trying to find it.

Oh and since I'm linking the channel, may as well post this up for Jarn: Europe On The Verge Of Civil War (https://youtu.be/ADhZbN-Oj7A)
That's that "push-back" like I was mentioning on the Brexit thread here. This is France today, not the beautiful oil painting some try to paint.

Raev

07-11-2016, 09:43 PM

we know some mechanisms of fiber on heart disease for example
Like what? I'm curious because soluble fiber is food for probiotic bacteria, so causality could be extremely complex.

If it happens that Campell and Esseltyn are correct, the dairy and animal agribusiness isn't going to like that very much.
American corporatism strikes again :( It's just sad how big corporations own our government and control its policies. It reminds me of aspartame (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robbie-gennet/donald-rumsfeld-and-the-s_b_805581.html).

Forgot to mention that I make some meals from the China Study cookbook and there are some tasty meals in there which meet his criteria
I mean, if it works for you <shrug> It may or may not be optimal, but it's clearly better than McDonalds, so you are at least making a step in the right direction.

Ahldagor

07-11-2016, 09:50 PM

Let's break this sentence down:

discernment: ability to judge well

assertation: statement

feckless: lacking in strength of character

Rewriting into simpler English gives: Daywolf, I'm still waiting on your ability to judge my statement that you are a coward without strength of character.

Which seems pretty nonsensical to me.

Well yes, because you wrote in nonsensically.

He's challenging Daywolf to reply to the question instead of going off on an irrelevant tangent like always.

He's challenging Daywolf to reply to the question instead of going off on an irrelevant tangent like always.
I suppose that's what he meant, but I don't think that's what he said. I could be wrong; I'm a computer scientist not an English major.

The guy had no connections to any group which he admitted before he was justifiably killed by Dallas PD. He was a lone wolf and acted from the same thought processes as Timothy McVeigh and you. Your thinking culminates with such behavior unless you're a feckless coward.

This seems to be the original quote, and it looks like Ahlgador is claiming Daywolf is a feckless coward because he didn't shoot police officers or blow up a building with a truck full of fertilizer.

Doubtful he's actually challenging Daywolf to do violence. I read it as 'if you really believe things are as bad as you claim, aren't you obligated to take action?' & 'Tone it down please'

I don't disagree with the sentiment and I think it's just a forums slapfight.

Essentially, yes. Daywolf's world view predetermines his perception, and I was holding out hope that he would step outside his echo chamber in order to see that. Likely, almost certainly, futile efforts. Though I do have a notion that some of his motivation is a feeling of lacking agency in his situation.

Yeah pretty much. He's just doing Ad Hominem's. People get upset when we go a little beyond the shitposting and use reference links etc to back our arguments. He just want's to call me out as a Troll e.g. one that just shitposts on a subject for sport but doesn't even believe what they are writing. He is trying to get me to drag in irl encounters on the subject so he can attack that, since he failed on the topic at hand. Textbook.

Daywolf, why didn't you keep up and just cherry picked what you quoted from Raev? Seriously, you should seek psychological help on narcissism and paranoia.

Daywolf

07-11-2016, 10:22 PM

Daywolf, why didn't you keep up and just cherry picked what you quoted from Raev? Seriously, you should seek psychological help on narcissism and paranoia.
ooooooooooh you're going on about the blm link etc. Why didn't you just f'ing say so rather than playing your full retard game for a dozen posts over multiple days and on many pages of the thread. I mean it can be amusing initially, but eventually gets pretty damn annoying, especially in a juggernaut thread where it's not easy to backtrack w/o psychic powers.

Hell yeah I stand behind it. I explained why it doesn't matter regarding the guy being a card carrying member of any particular group or not. You just don't accept it and want to be a retard about it dragging vague posts across the thread rather than just readdressing the question/accusation in some understandable context.

Every lefty-lib here is so quick to bring up things like kkk and act as if every conserv here is secretly sending funds to the high dragon or whatever his position title is. But when this guy mentions that he was angry over what BLM was saying and then he went out to murder "white people and cops", suddenly this is all just about some lone gunman and the influences of BLM and 0bamas war on America just has absolutely nothing to do with it. All the chanting of "dead cops" in demonstrations etc, just all fluffy kitten normal and in no way could effect anyone.

Pathetic :rolleyes:
[insert pic of shooter with his black power fist in the air]
[insert pics of 0bama and Hillary blaming whites and cops]
[insert pics of all the libtards voluntarily packing their bags for Europe or Africa after the Don landslides this election]
[insert pics of me roflmao]

Archalen

07-11-2016, 10:40 PM

Like what? I'm curious because soluble fiber is food for probiotic bacteria, so causality could be extremely complex.

American corporatism strikes again :( It's just sad how big corporations own our government and control its policies. It reminds me of aspartame (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robbie-gennet/donald-rumsfeld-and-the-s_b_805581.html).

I mean, if it works for you <shrug> It may or may not be optimal, but it's clearly better than McDonalds, so you are at least making a step in the right direction.

Yeah for sure on the aspartame article. On the fiber thing, it binds to bile (which can contain plaque-building components like cholesterol) and goes through the digestive tract. That is the most direct way. There are indirect ways that it influences heart health, like slowing rate of released sugar. On the other side of the science, a Harvard study on 40,000 male professionals showed a high fiber diet decreased risk factor for coronary heart disease by 40%. As far as I know, it's not controversial that fiber affects heart health.

maskedmelon

07-11-2016, 11:27 PM

Pokesan

07-12-2016, 01:06 AM

Daywolf, why didn't you keep up and just cherry picked what you quoted from Raev? Seriously, you should seek psychological help on narcissism and paranoia.

Did you learn anything?

Listen, and understand! Daywolf is out there! He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel shame, or remorse, or even the mildest amount of self-awareness. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

Ahldagor

07-12-2016, 01:34 AM

Did you learn anything?

*****'s full retard.

AzzarTheGod

07-12-2016, 05:11 AM

It reminds me of aspartame (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robbie-gennet/donald-rumsfeld-and-the-s_b_805581.html).

What is your opinion/stance on Xylitol?

Daywolf you too.

Blitzers

07-12-2016, 06:12 AM

if you guys put the same amount of effort into real life as you do Forum quest you'd be billionaires

AzzarTheGod

07-12-2016, 06:46 AM

if you guys put the same amount of effort into real life as you do Forum quest you'd be billionaires

A) their reward system isn't wired that way or B) they don't have the opportunities

Not everyone is a Mormon with a social network of multimillionaire hustlers and a few billionaires who can pull strings just waiting to embrace you after you demonstrate hard work and effort.

There is way more to it than just effort. You should very well know that. Very disappointed by this overly simplistic observation by Blitzers.

Daywolf

07-12-2016, 08:28 AM

What is your opinion/stance on Xylitol?

Daywolf you too.
Oblivious. I don't eat much sugar, not on a daily basis anyway other than the piles of it already in marketed foods. One or two of those little C&H bags will last me almost a year hehe. So I don't use substitutes. I even enjoy my coffee black and unsweetened tea. I just cant keep chocolate in the house or I scarf it down. I use to drink those sodas with aspartame, but not for like 10yrs now.

Yes, the fire rises!

maskedmelon

07-12-2016, 08:51 AM

I just cant keep chocolate in the house or I scarf it down.

Omg yes. One of two reasons I'm not fat: I keep that stuff outta the house! Don't have the willpower to abstain with it there, so I just don't buy it lol

Blitzers

07-12-2016, 09:41 AM

A) their reward system isn't wired that way or B) they don't have the opportunities

Not everyone is a Mormon with a social network of multimillionaire hustlers and a few billionaires who can pull strings just waiting to embrace you after you demonstrate hard work and effort.

There is way more to it than just effort. You should very well know that. Very disappointed by this overly simplistic observation by Blitzers.

Mormons holding you down, lol

Blitzers

07-12-2016, 09:43 AM

Despite what your professor told you, LIFE IS SIMPLE, so is success.

Jarnauga

07-12-2016, 10:45 AM

Pokesan

07-12-2016, 11:08 AM

http://i.imgur.com/OEFfM6U.png

http://i.imgur.com/ptZZF3N.png

http://i.imgur.com/FTn3CbU.png
http://i.imgur.com/cgyUK0b.png

http://i.imgur.com/7Z8Lygz.png

http://i.imgur.com/OjZ0O3M.png

http://i.imgur.com/TZeSMG4.png

http://i.imgur.com/rmdSx.gif

good work super sleuth

Daywolf

07-12-2016, 11:51 AM

I'm clueless
That wasn't Alex Jones, that was a report by Jon Bowne with Paul Joseph Watson contributing. Yet again you are just throwing random junk out there with no clue what or who you are talking about.
So you deny the whole report then? I take it you do, but then I doubt you are even really French.

Alarti0001

07-12-2016, 12:07 PM

Yet again you are just throwing random junk out there with no clue what or who you are talking about.

Quoted for Irony.

Jarnauga

07-12-2016, 12:44 PM

That wasn't Alex Jones, that was a report by Jon Bowne with Paul Joseph Watson contributing. Yet again you are just throwing random junk out there with no clue what or who you are talking about.
So you deny the whole report then? I take it you do, but then I doubt you are even really French.

The same john bowne that wrote that great article ? : NWO LUCIFERIAN CEREMONIES ON THE RISE, Rituals such as these are gradually becoming commonplace (http://www.infowars.com/nwo-luciferian-ceremonies-on-the-rise/), or NWO OPENING THOUSANDS OF PORTALS TO ANCIENT DEMONS, Temple of Baal arches will be put in multiple large cities around the world (http://www.infowars.com/nwo-opening-thousands-of-portals-to-ancient-demons/)..? :D

You're a moron.

Ahldagor

07-12-2016, 12:54 PM

The same john bowne that wrote that great article ? : NWO LUCIFERIAN CEREMONIES ON THE RISE, Rituals such as these are gradually becoming commonplace (http://www.infowars.com/nwo-luciferian-ceremonies-on-the-rise/), or NWO OPENING THOUSANDS OF PORTALS TO ANCIENT DEMONS, Temple of Baal arches will be put in multiple large cities around the world (http://www.infowars.com/nwo-opening-thousands-of-portals-to-ancient-demons/)..? :D

You're a moron.

He's a verbal flagellate that marks his back in public so that we're forced to look at the perversion of our ways. *****'s full retard.

Jarnauga

07-12-2016, 01:30 PM

Time to use some brain force (http://www.infowarsstore.com/brain-force.html) u moran

The store section of infowars is awesome. You can buy air purifiers against chemtrails and stuff.

Nihilist_santa

07-12-2016, 07:24 PM

Nothing to see here folks just more peaceful black activist plotting to kill white police officers. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/1-suspect-large-3-arrested-alleged-baton-rouge-plot-kill-n608231

It appears a pack of Harambes stole guns from a local shop in order to be used against police during protest.

AzzarTheGod

07-12-2016, 08:18 PM

Mormons holding you down, lol

Right over your head. It's not personal to me.

But even as a conservative I can recognize success isn't just about hard work.

Can you do the same, or u dumb? Keep ignoring the plight of others.

Daywolf

07-12-2016, 08:58 PM

Time to use some brain force (http://www.infowarsstore.com/brain-force.html) u moran

The store section of infowars is awesome. You can buy air purifiers against chemtrails and stuff.
You live in your fake oil painting as the left does not like being exposed for what it is. If you ever followed any of these networks, from such investigative reporting to others working out of strategic think tanks, not only will you find good humor (something the left detests unless it's perverted), but you will also find the news that the leftist mainstream news networks are not reporting and blatantly covering up.

You're desperate, the false narrative is being attacked, you don't want people to know like how one of the guns came out of the fast and furious program of 0bama's which wound up in the Paris massacre. You don't want people to know how the Orlando shooter shouted allah akbar rather than the false narrative of the gov and the the mainstream media tried to project due to their love for Islam and the terrorists which give them good ratings and secure political seats (not for long :P ).

Fact is your mainstream media sucks, horribly. It's utter fail, most Americans do not trust mainstream news and seek out alternative news networks. They're all a bunch of globalists there to propel the agenda forward, as well in the fashion of Edward Bernays (which every leftist adores his book "propaganda" and uses it including Clinton admittedly).

So you still didn't acknowledge or reject a word in that vid, rather you just dropped a blanket attack on the source (which wasn't even accurate) and on me. You are so very desperate to save your leftist agenda, but it's going to burn, the fire rises.

oh btw, you a communist? You linked the infowars store (I've gone to the infowars website like once this year, you have more times than me it looks) as if that's a bad thing too. I take it you despise capitalism, likely even despise the West. All your news networks state funded? Figures... :rolleyes:

srrsly, if you are only relying on mainstream media, u a foo!

big_ole_jpn

07-12-2016, 09:06 PM

watched back to the future 3 last night. everyone knows illuminati telegraph there future intentions thru media especially in a movie by steven spielberg about time travel. Here's proof:
http://i.imgur.com/rgChRQg.png

Jarnauga

07-12-2016, 09:22 PM

You live in your fake oil painting as the left does not like being exposed for what it is. If you ever followed any of these networks, from such investigative reporting to others working out of strategic think tanks, not only will you find good humor (something the left detests unless it's perverted), but you will also find the news that the leftist mainstream news networks are not reporting and blatantly covering up.

You're desperate, the false narrative is being attacked, you don't want people to know like how one of the guns came out of the fast and furious program of 0bama's which wound up in the Paris massacre. You don't want people to know how the Orlando shooter shouted allah akbar rather than the false narrative of the gov and the the mainstream media tried to project due to their love for Islam and the terrorists which give them good ratings and secure political seats (not for long :P ).

Fact is your mainstream media sucks, horribly. It's utter fail, most Americans do not trust mainstream news and seek out alternative news networks. They're all a bunch of globalists there to propel the agenda forward, as well in the fashion of Edward Bernays (which every leftist adores his book "propaganda" and uses it including Clinton admittedly).

So you still didn't acknowledge or reject a word in that vid, rather you just dropped a blanket attack on the source (which wasn't even accurate) and on me. You are so very desperate to save your leftist agenda, but it's going to burn, the fire rises.

oh btw, you a communist? You linked the infowars store (I've gone to the infowars website like once this year, you have more times than me it looks) as if that's a bad thing too. I take it you despise capitalism, likely even despise the West. All your news networks state funded? Figures... :rolleyes:

srrsly, if you are only relying on mainstream media, u a foo!

The issue is not about the media, mainstream or not. The issue is refusing facts when they don't fit your views, and accepting anything as "facts" as long as they do fit your views.

I'm done talking to you. You are stupid beyond saving.

Daywolf

07-12-2016, 10:01 PM

The issue is not about the media, mainstream or not. The issue is refusing facts when they don't fit your views, and accepting anything as "facts" as long as they do fit your views.

I'm done talking to you. You are stupid beyond saving.
You're projecting. That vid was the truth, you can't dispute it so you attack the source and me. You're brainwashed.

R Flair

07-13-2016, 12:08 AM

Its like every time I visit this forum Daywolf is corpse camping nerds in forum pvp.

At least they have enuf people in their circle jerk to rez them after he goes to bed.

Pokesan

07-13-2016, 12:14 AM

Its like every time I visit this forum Daywolf is corpse camping nerds in forum pvp.

At least they have enuf people in their circle jerk to rez them after he goes to bed.

daywolf makes me madder than all the nazi posters combined

Ahldagor

07-13-2016, 12:35 AM

Its like every time I visit this forum Daywolf is corpse camping nerds in forum pvp.

At least they have enuf people in their circle jerk to rez them after he goes to bed.

Really, it's a character for the forum. There's no sincerity in it. He's like the old racist grandpa that says racist things at the Thanksgiving table then everyone laughs at how pathetic the grandpa is.

Daywolf

07-13-2016, 01:01 AM

after he goes to bed.
yeah about that, the process of cloning has come a long way in recent years, won't be long now ^^
the Daywolf studio could become more efficient than a Chinese sweatshop!

Daywolf

07-13-2016, 01:06 AM

There's no sincerity in it.That trannyquest forum theme you're using is straining your overstuffed panties.

Daywolf

07-13-2016, 01:13 AM

daywolf makes me madder than all the nazi posters combinedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdp0cnBJUsc

big_ole_jpn

07-13-2016, 01:36 AM

its ez to not be made mad by daywolf when you realize he's right

also i dont read anything above 3 paragraphs as a rule (this depends)

Pokesan

07-13-2016, 01:39 AM

its ez to not be made mad by daywolf when you realize he's right

also i dont read anything above 3 paragraphs as a rule (this depends)

you're better than this and we both know it.

big_ole_jpn

07-13-2016, 01:41 AM

daywolf makes me madder than all the nazi posters combined

you're better than this and we both know it.

lotta nut licking on this page.

r u ok?

Ahldagor

07-13-2016, 01:49 AM

That trannyquest forum theme you're using is straining your overstuffed panties.

Please explain why you're fixated on my genitals in underwear. Dredge has a better life than you at this point.

Daywolf

07-13-2016, 02:16 AM

its ez to not be made mad by daywolf when you realize he's right

also i dont read anything above 3 paragraphs as a rule (this depends)
Yeah I hear ya, I try not to post more than a few paragraphs on forums, just depends. That last long one was way longer than I would have liked, but winders decided to kill my itty-bitty con with a forced update download before I could post so I just kept writing.

Please explain why you're fixated on my genitals in underwear. Dredge has a better life than you at this point.Because the lols of tit for tat. You throw personal insults/attacks at me, I throw 'em back. Notice I only do it to those that do it to me - about every lib here apart from a few, then a couple conservs but not lately. Just like some of you certain posters drag rnf crap into ot where I hardly bother with rnf apart from like the gif thread (yeah you're bored no one to rnf with :( ). Wait... what you say? you got dredges in your underwear? They give you meds for that?

Ahldagor

07-13-2016, 08:58 AM

Yeah I hear ya, I try not to post more than a few paragraphs on forums, just depends. That last long one was way longer than I would have liked, but winders decided to kill my itty-bitty con with a forced update download before I could post so I just kept writing.

Because the lols of tit for tat. You throw personal insults/attacks at me, I throw 'em back. Notice I only do it to those that do it to me - about every lib here apart from a few, then a couple conservs but not lately. Just like some of you certain posters drag rnf crap into ot where I hardly bother with rnf apart from like the gif thread (yeah you're bored no one to rnf with :( ). Wait... what you say? you got dredges in your underwear? They give you meds for that?

I made the assertion that you may be a feckless coward. Didn't out right claim that. I, however, say that you lack sincerity. And now you're fixated on my genitals...I get that you're lonely and drink shitty Jim Beam so much that it's affecting you're neurological synapses, but I'm spoken for.

maskedmelon

07-13-2016, 09:20 AM

Notice I only do it to those that do it to me - about every lib here apart from a few, then a couple conservs but not lately.

This is true and the reason that it is difficult for me understand why people take issue with Daywolf. As I've said before, he's probably one of the most polite people here. He doesn't attack people unless pestered and even then, it generally lacks the venom in others posts.

I suppose what offends people most is that he is confident and open with his opinions whether they are liked or not. He has a big dog persona and just sits there until he's finally had enough yapping from one of the little dogs at which point he nips it and it runs whimpering off only to begin yapping at him again.

Ahldagor

07-13-2016, 10:14 AM

This is true and the reason that it is difficult for me understand why people take issue with Daywolf. As I've said before, he's probably one of the most polite people here. He doesn't attack people unless pestered and even then, it generally lacks the venom in others posts.

I suppose what offends people most is that he is confident and open with his opinions whether they are liked or not. He has a big dog persona and just sits there until he's finally had enough yapping from one of the little dogs at which point he nips it and it runs whimpering off only to begin yapping at him again.

It's not a question of his opinions being liked or not, but one of validity. He's nice to you because of potential titties.