Anyone else cringe @ rogean's post about awakened?

[Redi]

Sound off

[Redi]

keep this discussion thread civil thanks in advance

[xKoopa]

?? Scumbags get punished and you cringe at it?

I dont even play anymore but its about time they got a suspension

[Colgate]

love when rogean gets all high and mighty about CSR things when he's the #1 reason why these servers are such a shitshow

[Raev]

Rogean sounded remarkably surprised that people who are willing to watch linoleum peel for hours on end to obtain emulated pixels are going to flip out when said pixels are taken away from them.

[trite]

How is being in plane of fear a violation of a raid suspension...if they aren't killing mobs with FTE messages how are they violating a raid suspension....Also since when are harassing tells from individuals grounds for extending a raid suspension.....Just punish the people who send harassing tells...definitely cringe inducing

[Sodors Finest Poster]

I cringed when I read your post op.

http://i.imgur.com/trg1Zm6.jpg

[Gimp]

How is being in plane of fear a violation of a raid suspension...if they aren't killing mobs with FTE messages how are they violating a raid suspension....Also since when are harassing tells from individuals grounds for extending a raid suspension.....Just punish the people who send harassing tells...definitely cringe inducing

Because it's always been considered a raid zone you retard. You don't go into raid zones when you're raid suspended. How is this difficult to understand?

[Colgate]

dumb line of thought, that would mean:

icewell, kael, skyshrine, wakening land, the great divide, velketor's labyrinth, cobalt scar, western wastes, dragon necropolis, temple of veeshan, sol b, permafrost keep, plane of fear, plane of sky, plane of hate, plane of growth, dreadlands, skyfire mountains, emerald jungle, old sebilis, karnor's castle, veeshan's peak, timorous deep, the hole

are all raid zones, good luck playing everquest awakened

[trite]

Because it's always been considered a raid zone you retard. You don't go into raid zones when you're raid suspended. How is this difficult to understand?

wraith of a shissar and golems are one groupable though and FFA mobs....

Are they not allowed to congregate in groups of more than 6 ?
Are they not allowed in sebilis because of trakanon
Are they not allowed in western wastes because of klandicar
Are they not allowed in Plane of Sky ? that shit is one groupable now.....

Where is this shit spelled out?

They are being subjected to the harshest penalty in the Velious era because they killed a Nagafen after another guild attempted it and failed...

I fell like they're really being punished because everyone else can't compete and has been lawyerquesting them tooth and nail, effectively holding them to a higher standard

Also calling people a retard doesn't emphasize your point, my own personal feelings are that you are an unpleasent individual.....

[Ella`Ella]

You scrubs have a guild full of ex-rampage/ex-IB members who know how raid suspensions work. Your dipshit Taken leaders followed the same line of thought they always followed of "Let's just do it to see if we can get away with it" - the same thinking that gave us Catherin and Auto-fire. In fact, that's the exact situation that led to the FTE tracker rule that you broke for nagy.

Your leadership either needs a smarter way of thinking or better lawyers.

[Gapher]

wraith of a shissar and golems are one groupable though and FFA mobs....

Are they not allowed to congregate in groups of more than 6 ?
Are they not allowed in sebilis because of trakanon
Are they not allowed in western wastes because of klandicar
Are they not allowed in Plane of Sky ? that shit is one groupable now.....

I personally think they should also have to show their "Papers" if detained.

[Gimp]

You scrubs have a guild full of ex-rampage/ex-IB members who know how raid suspensions work. Your dipshit Taken leaders followed the same line of thought they always followed of "Let's just do it to see if we can get away with it" - the same thinking that gave us Catherin and Auto-fire. In fact, that's the exact situation that led to the FTE tracker rule that you broke for nagy.

Your leadership either needs a smarter way of thinking or better lawyers.

[Kushie]

love when rogean gets all high and mighty about CSR things when he's the #1 reason why these servers are such a shitshow

:D

[Pokesan]

love when rogean gets all high and mighty about CSR things when he's the #1 reason why these servers are such a shitshow

staff just aren't properly trained these days

http://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/babysitting-child-care

[Cecily]

http://i.imgur.com/05u1BVc.gif

[Legday]

Back in the F+A days Forsaken got hit with a 5 day raid suspension and Detoxx (whom I normally hate to give credit to) had the foresight and common sense to instruct Forsaken not even to zone in to a raid zone like the planes, or even mess with something like Ragefire for the entire 5 day period. Asgard also followed suit to be safe.

Turns out that was a pretty good call.

[Gimp]

Back in the F+A days Forsaken got hit with a 5 day raid suspension and Detoxx (whom I normally hate to give credit to) had the foresight and common sense to instruct Forsaken not even to zone in to a raid zone like the planes, or even mess with something like Ragefire for the entire 5 day period. Asgard also followed suit to be safe.

Turns out that was a pretty good call.

They knew what they were doing. Like on the Naggy FTE, they thought they would get away with it.

[Tenlaar]

I fell like they're really being punished because everyone else can't compete

That certainly makes more sense than them being punishes because they did something punishable. Sound theory.

[Redi]

what a doozie

[baue1446]

I fell like they're really being punished because everyone else can't compete and has been lawyerquesting them tooth and nail, effectively holding them to a higher standard




You obviously don't raid on this server. Awakened had 3 good weeks of domination where they got 90%+ of the targets and burnt out. Before that it was 50/50 (+/-) and after those 3 weeks it was 50/50 (+/-).

They have their weeks of just pure devotion and kick ass...Then fizzled faster than fruit stripe gum.

[Neno]

Then fizzled faster than fruit stripe gum.

the only time I chew fruit stripe gum is when I am on some kind of substance that distorts time. like popping a whole pack into your mouth after taking several hits of lsd. just close your eyes and let the visuals and taste take you on a journey.

[Baler]

After reading it I think @Rogean could have responded a slightly more professional manner. While what he said in his post may have been completely true. There is a degree of emotion in it, That is my opinion.

Staff should be emotionless imo and be as outside the community as possible. spectacles don't cause anything but problems. From either side.

Like official staff who don't post in the forums unless something seriously forces their hand. But p99 is a private server. I understand the private server game from uo. It is what it is.

Was he wrong? no.

[Redi]

act professional lol

mmmmmmnnnaahhhhhh

[heartbrand]

After reading it I think @Rogean could have responded a slightly more professional manner. While what he said in his post may have been completely true. There is a degree of emotion in it, That is my opinion.

Staff should be emotionless imo and be as outside the community as possible. spectacles don't cause anything but problems. From either side.

Like official staff who don't post in the forums unless something seriously forces their hand. But p99 is a private server. I understand the private server game from uo. It is what it is.

Was he wrong? no.

Please respect the Project Manager. Thank you.

[trite]

You obviously don't raid on this server. Awakened had 3 good weeks of domination where they got 90%+ of the targets and burnt out. Before that it was 50/50 (+/-) and after those 3 weeks it was 50/50 (+/-).

They have their weeks of just pure devotion and kick ass...Then fizzled faster than fruit stripe gum.

Burn out? Immediately after they finish a ring war a raid ban goes into effect on them and an earthquake happens..... sounds like that guy who posted the thread about fixing the server like pro wrestling was on to something

[Baler]

Please respect the Project Manager. Thank you.

CO-Project Manager* FTFY

[indiscriminate_hater]

We should build a wall to keep all of the rule breakers out

[Detoxx]

This is what you get for letting psycho stalkers (Fingerz has sent me text messages harassing me back in the Rampage days) run rampant. Best part is I talked to one of awakened officers about his actions (Happyhandz) and he all but endorsed it.

[Naethyn]

This is what you get for letting psycho stalkers (Fingerz has sent me text messages harassing me back in the Rampage days) run rampant. Best part is I talked to one of awakened officers about his actions (Happyhandz) and he all but endorsed it.

Was that before or after you and Sirken called Awakened's guild leader on skype to let him know they are suspended? Did you guys chuckle about it after you both hung up? What a spectacle of unprofessionalism.

[quido]

I cringe every time Rogean does something with CSR

[Signal]

wraith of a shissar and golems are one groupable though and FFA mobs....

Are they not allowed to congregate in groups of more than 6 ?
Are they not allowed in sebilis because of trakanon
Are they not allowed in western wastes because of klandicar
Are they not allowed in Plane of Sky ? that shit is one groupable now.....

Where is this shit spelled out?

They are being subjected to the harshest penalty in the Velious era because they killed a Nagafen after another guild attempted it and failed...

I fell like they're really being punished because everyone else can't compete and has been lawyerquesting them tooth and nail, effectively holding them to a higher standard

Also calling people a retard doesn't emphasize your point, my own personal feelings are that you are an unpleasent individual.....

If you believe all this you are retarded. Guilds have been punished for similar things in the past. The precedent and rules have been there for awhile. If the officers of the guild don't understand the rules in place. Then do not raid until they do. This group of players though has a history of pushing rules and doing different things and claiming that it was fine. They got away with it a few times and they decided to stretch things further.

[Legday]

This is what you get for letting psycho stalkers (Fingerz has sent me text messages harassing me back in the Rampage days) run rampant. Best part is I talked to one of awakened officers about his actions (Happyhandz) and he all but endorsed it.

Can someone please clear up how to pronounce these guys' names?

Is it like:

Fin-ger-zee
Ha-pee-hand-zee

Or is it like:

Fin-gerz
Ha-pee-handz

ASAP please. Very confused.

[Signal]

Was that before or after you and Sirken called Awakened's guild leader on skype to let him know they are suspended? Did you guys chuckle about it after you both hung up? What a spectacle of unprofessionalism.

I giggled when I heard how bad his leadership was too. How anyone raids with someone that clueless leading them is just pure comedy.

[Detoxx]

Was that before or after you and Sirken called Awakened's guild leader on skype to let him know they are suspended? Did you guys chuckle about it after you both hung up? What a spectacle of unprofessionalism.

What are you talking about? Lol. I had no involvement on any of this, and you guys were suspended for a Naggy we didnt even contest...

Nice try though.

[AzzarTheGod]

Was that before or after you and Sirken called Awakened's guild leader on skype to let him know they are suspended? Did you guys chuckle about it after you both hung up? What a spectacle of unprofessionalism.

bahahhaha

oh god I really let loose a full belly cackle on that one. I love it when nerds break rules and get informed that they are suspended.

I hope Aftermath clanged some beers with Sirken on Skype after they hung up.

[Colgate]

sounds like this naethyn guy is mad because the enemy guild leader played politicsquest better than his guildleader

[Pheer]

This is what you get for letting psycho stalkers (Fingerz has sent me text messages harassing me back in the Rampage days) run rampant. Best part is I talked to one of awakened officers about his actions (Happyhandz) and he all but endorsed it.

http://i.imgur.com/S55MdC8.png

[AzzarTheGod]

lol this thread is getting dark.

Detoxx you still with us buddy?

[Redi]

nobodies reading that pheergot

[xKoopa]

http://i.imgur.com/05u1BVc.gif

nice

[nyclin]

detoxx is a capable and mature raid leader and a shining example for the community of p99

[Signal]

http://i.imgur.com/S55MdC8.png

If a montage was made of rage tells made by Fingerz it would fill up 2 pages of rnf. The guy is seriously off his rocker and will send tells for an hour straight. You just gotta reply with one word responses to keep him going most the time. It was a running joke for a long time. Some of us just didn't stoop to the level of trying to keep track of all his rage tells and post them on the forums. Seems like Rogean got tired of it after 10 or 15 minutes.

[Tankdan]

If I recall, raid rules changed over the months and years.. You used to be able to still raid Sky, Royals, Hate etc while suspended. But I've had a lot of alcohol since then so I could be wrong.

[Signal]

If I recall, raid rules changed over the months and years.. You used to be able to still raid Sky, Royals, Hate etc while suspended. But I've had a lot of alcohol since then so I could be wrong.
False about Hate and Fear. You could do Royals and Sky. That has never changed. It has always been that way.

[ridiculousmoose]

What really gets me is that both of these guilds are run by psychopaths... wow.

[knix]

False about Hate and Fear. You could do Royals and Sky. That has never changed. It has always been that way.
You can do Royals, That is about it.

You cannot step one foot in Hate or Fear, even as a duo, trio or group.

Sky is a bit more muddy, sometimes yes, sometimes no, but never nobles.

[Moosetoe]

Can someone please clear up how to pronounce these guys' names?

Is it like:

Fin-ger-zee
Ha-pee-hand-zee

Or is it like:

Fin-gerz
Ha-pee-handz

ASAP please. Very confused.

I have always referred to them as "Fing-er-zee" and "Hap-e-hand-zee"

[Topdog]

Please respect the Project Manager. Thank you.

lol'd

[Josa]

Awakened aren't just jerks in raid zones though. There have been times I've in Crushbone, Unrest, and Blackburrow where massively twinked awakened solos or duos will roll through the zones, and completely disrupt them. Most recently it was an Awakened dwarf tank of some kind and enchanter in Crushbone. The enchanter charmed a lego, then gave it about 300pp in toys, and proceeded to clear the zone. They even rolled over recognized camps and killed every decent target. finally they bit off more than they could chew and trained THROUGH WALL CAMP. without calling train or anything. We took care of all of their train, and someone looted the enchanter's pet toys. Then the enchanter comes back and begs for the toys back. LOL.

[Swish]

My most recent encounter with them was fine. They came into Chardok to pull King/Queen to the zone out tunnel and were respectful of an ongoing XP group...even rezzed my trained corpses from the previous AOE's groups attempts to be hospitable (thanks Cleratani).

Do they make their members give back looted pixels if they leave?

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Do they make their members give back looted pixels if they leave?

A friend of mine is still making mortgage payments on his no-drop gear he earned with a guild who left this server. Said its the cost of leaving them and hes hopeful one day he can pay it off.

[GinnasP99]

I personally think they should also have to show their "Papers" if detained.

Meine Papiere sind verloren

[EatitNerd]

love when rogean gets all high and mighty about CSR things when he's the #1 reason why these servers are such a shitshow

[Teako]

I find it absolutely awesome. Good, start handing out extreme over the top punishments until guilds are so terrified of breaking rules that they're forced to play nice.

You leapfrog, or do some shady shit FTE? You stall? You train an entire raid in TOV while "pulling" a dragon? Month suspension. Just start making ridiculous steel-gauntlet punishments. Watch how quickly the raid scene cleans up when they think there's a chance of tremendous repercussion for playing shady.

No more rule lawyer. You try to rule lawyer? Week suspension. You try to bend the facts to fit your case? Week suspension. You petition something that wasn't against the rules? Week suspension.

Make it fucking straight out Nazi era in here. Watch how quickly the weebs and plebs fall in line to keep the pixels flowing.

Rogean Pls.

[Swish]

I like the George Orwell approach we have here. Everyone has fraps loaded and threatens to send the footage on a whim.

The fact that we have a community who are already lawyering up on each engage before it happens says a lot.

[pickled_heretic]

never had problems with em, the two encounters I've had with awakened twinks were both people willing to group with bronze wearing tanks and guild robe wearing casters.

[Thulack]

never had problems with em, the two encounters I've had with awakened twinks were both people willing to group with bronze wearing tanks and guild robe wearing casters.

Thats because not everyone in the same guild has the same mindset. There is nutjob(s) in every bunch. But this is RnF so standard protocol is to take the worst examples of guilds to describe how the whole guild thinks/operates. Its a cycle that comes and goes everytime a new guild becomes the top guild on P99. Couldnt tell you the last time the top guild on the server was actually liked by anyone else.

[kined]

Thats because not everyone in the same guild has the same mindset. There is nutjob(s) in every bunch. But this is RnF so standard protocol is to take the worst examples of guilds to describe how the whole guild thinks/operates. Its a cycle that comes and goes everytime a new guild becomes the top guild on P99. Couldnt tell you the last time the top guild on the server was actually liked by anyone else.

i cant even remember a guild that didnt have people constantly talking shit on the forums. unless you are <dial a port> or a casual guild that never set foot in a raid zone, people trash talk your guild. i cant think of a single raid guild that doesnt get harrassed even if 90% of the players are really nice people. i love this game on the group level, but the raid scene has completely destroyed any guild cohesion and im sick of it. went through too many guilds falling apart over raid drama im just not going to involve myself in that childish scene. i dont see many other people that are ~max level without a guild.

[Redi]

Thats because not everyone in the same guild has the same mindset. There is nutjob(s) in every bunch. But this is RnF so standard protocol is to take the worst examples of guilds to describe how the whole guild thinks/operates. Its a cycle that comes and goes everytime a new guild becomes the top guild on P99. Couldnt tell you the last time the top guild on the server was actually liked by anyone else.

Lol

[wwoneo]

Thats because not everyone in the same guild has the same mindset. There is nutjob(s) in every bunch. But this is RnF so standard protocol is to take the worst examples of guilds to describe how the whole guild thinks/operates. Its a cycle that comes and goes everytime a new guild becomes the top guild on P99. Couldnt tell you the last time the top guild on the server was actually liked by anyone else.

Maybe that's because the top guilds behave in the same manner.

[Chaboo_Cleric]

This thread jiz discusting

[Victorio]

wraith of a shissar and golems are one groupable though and FFA mobs....

Are they not allowed to congregate in groups of more than 6 ?
Are they not allowed in sebilis because of trakanon
Are they not allowed in western wastes because of klandicar
Are they not allowed in Plane of Sky ? that shit is one groupable now.....

Where is this shit spelled out?

They are being subjected to the harshest penalty in the Velious era because they killed a Nagafen after another guild attempted it and failed...

I fell like they're really being punished because everyone else can't compete and has been lawyerquesting them tooth and nail, effectively holding them to a higher standard

Also calling people a retard doesn't emphasize your point, my own personal feelings are that you are an unpleasent individual.....
From the raid rules:
Q1: What is considered a "raid" on Project 1999?
A: A raid is any group of players looking to engage a raid target OR any force consisting of more than one group united in a common goal. This means that three people can be considered a raid if they intend to kill Dracoliche, or 20 people clearing fear trash.
Q1: What is considered a "raid" on Project 1999?
A: A raid is any group of players looking to engage a raid target OR any force consisting of more than one group united in a common goal. This means that three people can be considered a raid if they intend to kill Dracoliche, or 20 people clearing fear trash.
Most epic NPC's are not strictly considered "raid" mobs. The exception to this is Ragefire, which is considered a 'raid target' for the purposes of qualifying a group as a raid only. For all other intents and purposes, Ragefire is treated like an Epic NPC (IE, camp/poopsock rules do not apply). Please keep in mind that because of the need to clear to a raid target, trains enacted on players in the way of your raid are considered raid violations and action could be taken against your guild as a whole, regardless of whether the victims are part of a raid. It is in your best interest to be very careful when racing for a target, especially when it involves training away mobs.

[Phydra]

I wish I didn't come to the forums now. Don't think I'll do it again; both because this makes me sad and because the guy isn't replying to help my guy get an IP exception so he can play alongside me, either.

Ya'll seem so much nicer in game. What happened? :(