Awakened TMO's Venerate @ Naggy

[Computer Blue]

Classic move guys. It really brought me back to the days of Taken crying about tmo taking the pixels they wanted so badly. Hows it feel knowing you became what you despised for so long?

For those not in the know, little guy Venerate puts together a group of misfits and schleps their way through fire giants. Rustle logs in, fte's and wipes with 4. That was A+ though. Guild chat was 100% upset. Awakened see's that Rustle is everything they want to be and decides to do the same, but with the typical zerg numbers. Classic leap frog with only a few loot hungry Awakened noobs slipping on my guilds tears.

As soon as I saw the Awakened start logging in(prebuffed and gtg) I say in guild chat that we should just be like Taken and only go for Vox. We are not nearly underhanded enough to play with these kids. Taken and Rampage scraps, a sincere fuck you from your loving friends(the rest of the server).

Computer Blue <Venerate>

[tombombadilo21]

You Rustled bro?

[Computer Blue]

Classic move guys. It really brought me back to the days of Taken crying about tmo taking the pixels they wanted so badly. Hows it feel knowing you became what you despised for so long?

For those not in the know, little guy Venerate puts together a group of misfits and schleps their way through fire giants. Rustle logs in, fte's and wipes with 4. That was A+ though. Guild chat was 100% upset. Awakened see's that Rustle is everything they want to be and decides to do the same, but with the typical zerg numbers. Classic leap frog with only a few loot hungry Awakened noobs slipping on my guilds tears.

As soon as I saw the Awakened start logging in(prebuffed and gtg) I say in guild chat that we should just be like Taken and only go for Vox. We are not nearly underhanded enough to play with these kids. Taken and Rampage scraps, a sincere fuck you from your loving friends(the rest of the server).

Computer Blue <Venerate>

You Rustled bro?

Classic move guys. It really brought me back to the days of Taken crying about tmo taking the pixels they wanted so badly. Hows it feel knowing you became what you despised for so long?

For those not in the know, little guy Venerate puts together a group of misfits and schleps their way through fire giants. Rustle logs in, fte's and wipes with 4. That was A+ though. Guild chat was 100% upset. Awakened see's that Rustle is everything they want to be and decides to do the same, but with the typical zerg numbers. Classic leap frog with only a few loot hungry Awakened noobs slipping on my guilds tears.

As soon as I saw the Awakened start logging in(prebuffed and gtg) I say in guild chat that we should just be like Taken and only go for Vox. We are not nearly underhanded enough to play with these kids. Taken and Rampage scraps, a sincere fuck you from your loving friends(the rest of the server).

Computer Blue <Venerate>

Bro, yes. I have been giving reach around's to my entire officer core just to have a shot at a blade stopper to sell in ec so I can Chardok myself to 60.

[Farzo]

YIKES

Why didn't you bash their cleric as he tried to heal it?

o wait its round robin eq (blue )

[Xaanka]

Classic move guys. It really brought me back to the days of Taken crying about tmo taking the pixels they wanted so badly. Hows it feel knowing you became what you despised for so long?

For those not in the know, little guy Venerate puts together a group of misfits and schleps their way through fire giants. Rustle logs in, fte's and wipes with 4. That was A+ though. Guild chat was 100% upset. Awakened see's that Rustle is everything they want to be and decides to do the same, but with the typical zerg numbers. Classic leap frog with only a few loot hungry Awakened noobs slipping on my guilds tears.

As soon as I saw the Awakened start logging in(prebuffed and gtg) I say in guild chat that we should just be like Taken and only go for Vox. We are not nearly underhanded enough to play with these kids. Taken and Rampage scraps, a sincere fuck you from your loving friends(the rest of the server).

Computer Blue <Venerate>

I've played everquest since sandbox-alpha and I can't even begin to decypher what this guy's trying to say in this post :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

[Fanguru]

Wrong server for casual raids on contested targets.

[Ravager]

Wrong server for raids.

[Gimp]

Summary: Awakened still scumbags, claims to be "server good guys", shits on smaller guilds whenever possible

the end

[FatMice]

I love Venerate but a competitive guild being competitive is now something to complain about?

When Aftermath waited on Venerate to kill Vindi there were plenty (maybe half) of the raiders just perplexed as to why we were being so kind. This server is a washing machine shit just goes around and around. It's fun to watch but then after 5min you are like what am I doing with my life?

[TMBLOW]

Summary: Awakened still scumbags, claims to be "server good guys", shits on smaller guilds whenever possible

the end

Rustle logs in, fte's and wipes with 4.

Cool story but apparently Awakened was not the first 'competitive' raiding guild on the scene to go for the dragon. They however were the ones who succeeded so lets blame them even tho another entity had already did the exact same thing you are calling Awakened scumbags for.

Pot n Kettle meet Gimp. Hope you have Budweiser inside.

[Eponymous Anonymous]

Classic move guys. It really brought me back to the days of Taken crying about tmo taking the pixels they wanted so badly.

Is this not exactly what you are doing in this thread?

As soon as I saw the Awakened start logging in(prebuffed and gtg) I say in guild chat that we should just be like Taken and only go for Vox. We are not nearly underhanded enough to play with these kids.

Newsflash: If you're that slow at clearing to Naggy then you're still going to get steamrolled at Vox.

Summary: Awakened still scumbags, claims to be "server good guys", shits on smaller guilds whenever possible

Except you tried to shit on them first.

[Legday]

Possibly the greatest non-issue these eyes have ever seen.

Don't let Nemce and the "please don't try so hard" crew brainwash you. The rule set on this server is never going to hand you free anything just because you're starting to clear towards a raid mob (that drops priceless loot), so get in the mindset that you need to play better and quicker to win, or it's going to be a long server life for you.

[Legday]

Also, what time of day did this happen?

[FatMice]

Ha! Legday nice grab at timers. But seriously I think Venerate predominately only raids from 5pm - 12pm. I know that's a huge window when it comes to windows but I would lean more toward 10pm if I was a betting man!

[Juevento]

Words...

Computer Blue <Venerate>

You aren't going to get a whole lot of response here. Since aside from TMBLOW (who is a former Taken dude, probably Eratani's anon account) Awakened doesn't post here. Evidently they are all a bunch of bitches who let other people tell them what they can and can't do in their own free time. The other people who do post here, will likely eat you for lunch if you don't come correct. This is of course excepting the assholes from Aftermath who for some reason think their forum game is skronk, but really just comes off as psychopathic rambling.

Anyways as others have said, what you experienced is nothing unusual for this server. Might I suggest giving the Phinegal live server a shot? BDA migrated over there to get away from the man children and we've been killing it. So yeah, fuck p99 with a red hot poker and give Phinny a shot.

[Spyder73]

If you are just now realizing that Taken/Rampage/Awakened are a bunch of neck bearded scum lord FGTs you have not been paying attention.

[Legday]

Ha! Legday nice grab at timers. But seriously I think Venerate predominately only raids from 5pm - 12pm. I know that's a huge window when it comes to windows but I would lean more toward 10pm if I was a betting man!

You blew my cover, wtf bro.

But who would come here at 2:30am to initiate this nonsense if it didn't just happen?

Have a good day everybody!

[Spyder73]

You aren't going to get a whole lot of response here. Since aside from TMBLOW (who is a former Taken dude, probably Eratani's anon account) Awakened doesn't post here. Evidently they are all a bunch of bitches who let other people tell them what they can and can't do in their own free time. The other people who do post here, will likely eat you for lunch if you don't come correct. This is of course excepting the assholes from Aftermath who for some reason think their forum game is skronk, but really just comes off as psychopathic rambling.

Anyways as others have said, what you experienced is nothing unusual for this server. Might I suggest giving the Phinegal live server a shot? BDA migrated over there to get away from the man children and we've been killing it. So yeah, fuck p99 with a red hot poker and give Phinny a shot.

Juevento is primarily a trash poster, but he hit the issue pretty square in the nose here. If you want to see raid content on P99 you MUST EARN IT PLEB

[Dinbin]

Since I'm new to this scene, did I get this right:

Guild B sees Guild A clearing way to Nag and pops in to FTE (and KS in all but the strictest definition) Nag?

[Gimp]

Cool story but apparently Awakened was not the first 'competitive' raiding guild on the scene to go for the dragon. They however were the ones who succeeded so lets blame them even tho another entity had already did the exact same thing you are calling Awakened scumbags for.

Pot n Kettle meet Gimp. Hope you have Budweiser inside.

Engaging with 4 for a "fuck it lets try" and zerging it down with 40 are a bit different, no?

Lol dumb question I guess. Forgot you're old Taken. Zerging is all you've ever known

[FatMice]

Since I'm new to this scene, did I get this right:

Guild B sees Guild A clearing way to Nag and pops in to FTE (and KS in all but the strictest definition) Nag?

There is no KS here. First to Engage gets the mob. Rules of Project 1999. If you get skipped you didn't move fast enough or strategize appropriately.

[Gimp]

And I'm not sure why you keep bringing up Budweiser like it's supposed to be insulting to me. Cold beer is great after a long days work.

[Pokesan]

bladestopper?

[Cecily]

Cool story but apparently Awakened was not the first 'competitive' raiding guild on the scene to go for the dragon. They however were the ones who succeeded so lets blame them even tho another entity had already did the exact same thing you are calling Awakened scumbags for.

Pot n Kettle meet Gimp. Hope you have Budweiser inside.

I mean just because Rustle has all of the best players on the server, that hardly makes us a raiding guild, or lol 'competitive'. We play this game for fun now.

[Dinbin]

There is no KS here. First to Engage gets the mob. Rules of Project 1999. If you get skipped you didn't move fast enough or strategize appropriately.
Understood. Hence my qualifier in parenthesis. Cutting into line at the bank isn't illegal, but it's bad form.

[Cecily]

Understood. Hence my qualifier in parenthesis. Cutting into line at the bank isn't illegal, but it's bad form.

It's violating a social norm and frowned upon. The social norms here were written by people who thought the idea of pooping in a sock was funny.

[colicab]

I do believe Awakened had tracker FTE on this one as well? tsk tsk.

[Dinbin]

It's violating a social norm and frowned upon. The social norms here were written by people who thought the idea of pooping in a sock was funny.That is unfortunate and disappointing.

[TMBLOW]

I do believe Awakened had tracker FTE on this one as well? tsk tsk.

wouldnt that be impossible if Rustle had already engaged Nagafen and failed initially?

FTE means First to Engage. After the initial engage happens anyone that aggro's Nagafen accidentally or purposely is no longer the first person to engage it.

@Gimp was not an insult, since you like to hang out with pots and kettles so much I figured they better have beer for you.

[Detoxx]

wouldnt that be impossible if Rustle had already engaged Nagafen and failed initially?

FTE means First to Engage. After the initial engage happens anyone that aggro's Nagafen accidentally or purposely is no longer the first person to engage it.

@Gimp was not an insult, since you like to hang out with pots and kettles so much I figured they better have beer for you.

Whole new level of spin here lol. No it doesn't matter who did what to which mob. If the person representing your guild was tracking it a and got FTE, that is against the rules.

[FatMice]

That 10 day raid suspension bro!

[Gimp]

wouldnt that be impossible if Rustle had already engaged Nagafen and failed initially?

FTE means First to Engage. After the initial engage happens anyone that aggro's Nagafen accidentally or purposely is no longer the first person to engage it.

@Gimp was not an insult, since you like to hang out with pots and kettles so much I figured they better have beer for you.

For a guild that loves to lawyer every little thing, y'all sure don't know the rules very well.

Tracker FTE is one of the easiest enforced rules, too. If you're tracking, don't get yellow text. At all.

[TMBLOW]

Wasnt tracking sirs :)

I was just saying even if he HAD been the tracker for Awakened - he did not FTE the dragon, Rustle did.

Good try though, everyone got really excited and felt the need to run to post lol

[TMBLOW]

If the person representing your guild was tracking it a and got FTE, that is against the rules.

So after a guild fails to kill a mob, the dragon will path back to it's spawn point. This could cause aggro to any tracker in the area if they are not familiar with the pathing causing an FTE message. That's tracker FTE by Detoxx's definition - lol

No, you cannot train raid mobs on trackers in hopes to get a yellow text from the person that was standing there. The initial engage and training was the First To Engage, and what you described is not that at all.

I think I have a better understanding of the rules compared to that interpretation.

[Gimp]

We're you tracking the mob?

Did you get an FTE message?

If the answer both of these is yes, then you fucked up. There's literally no grey area to this rule.

[FatMice]

Can you see the washing machine go around and around?

Venerate: I want to get this dragon!
Rustle/Awakened: You can't have this dragon.
Venerate: This bullshit.
Awakened: Sorry bros!
Aftermath: Tracker FTE!
Awakened: No it's not tracker FTE!
Aftermath: You should be suspended!
Awakened: I won't be suspended!
Rustle: Damn these people are Rustled.
Aftermath: Don't worry guys, we will get it next time. Venerate, want to merge?
Venerate: We don't want to.
Aftermath: Come on guys! We need to beat Awakened.
Rustle: Extra vodka in my Arnold Palmer bartender!

[TMBLOW]

We're you tracking the mob?

Did you get an FTE message?

If the answer both of these is yes, then you fucked up. There's literally no grey area to this rule.

Yes got a FTE message. No that player was not in the lair when it spawned nor tracking the mob.

thank you, come again.

[colicab]

Can you see the washing machine go around and around?

Venerate: I want to get this dragon!
Rustle/Awakened: You can't have this dragon.
Venerate: This bullshit.
Awakened: Sorry bros!
Aftermath: Tracker FTE!
Awakened: No it's not tracker FTE!
Aftermath: You should be suspended!
Awakened: I won't be suspended!
Rustle: Damn these people are Rustled.
Aftermath: Don't worry guys, we will get it next time. Venerate, want to merge?
Venerate: We don't want to.
Aftermath: Come on guys! We need to beat Awakened.
Rustle: Extra vodka in my Arnold Palmer bartender!
+1 especially the vodka part.

[Cecily]

^ lol. God bless this server.

[Matalus]

The rustleness is strong here

[Gimp]

Yes got a FTE message. No that player was not in the lair when it spawned nor tracking the mob.

thank you, come again.

But was that player camped out at the Dragon?

:)

[getsome]

RNF without ms paint is boring.


http://i.imgur.com/69hBeGk.png

[FatMice]

Damn. 10 day raid suspension on a Naggy FTE is rough.

[Skew]

GMs are all over raid infractions currently so id expect some harsh punishments before the next cycle.

[TMBLOW]

too bad Nagafen reset after that FTE and the player who logged in ( went splat instantly ) did not participate in the encounter. Had Awakened killed Nagafen following that FTE you might have something here.

This is A+ effort though, maybe next time apply this sort of effort while playing rather than the forums.

[Freakish]

RNF without ms paint is boring.


http://i.imgur.com/69hBeGk.png

Whoa

[Gimp]

too bad Nagafen reset after that FTE and the player who logged in ( went splat instantly ) did not participate in the encounter. Had Awakened killed Nagafen following that FTE you might have something here.

This is A+ effort though, maybe next time apply this sort of effort while playing rather than the forums.

Guy admitted that FTE went out from a player camped out under Naggy and y'all killed it anyway?

How fucking stupid can you be. Doesn't matter if you "reset the FTE" or whatever you're trying to argue. You can't admit to breaking a rule (logged out at raid mob, tracker FTE) then kill the mob anyway. Should have immediately conceded the mob when someone with your guild tag logged in under Naggy and set off a FTE.

[Spyder73]

What level was the tracker? Was it a level appropriate character was this a level 60 who died and then immediately logged into a level 52 alt to kill the Dragon?

[Cecily]

Guy admitted that FTE went out from a player camped out under Naggy and y'all killed it anyway?

How fucking stupid can you be. Doesn't matter if you "reset the FTE" or whatever you're trying to argue. You can't admit to breaking a rule (logged out at raid mob, tracker FTE) then kill the mob anyway. Should have immediately conceded the mob when someone with your guild tag logged in under Naggy and set off a FTE.

http://i.imgur.com/obGMl8A.jpg

[Spyder73]

7521

1) Pooping socking is going on as normal, nothing to see here

2) Hello, my name is nagafen, will you be my friend? No? *SWIPE* Loading...

3) SH!T SH!T SH!T SH!T NAGY POPPED BUT I GOT FTE SH!! SH!T SH!T

4) We are venerate! We have come for the Dragon

5) SH!T SH!T SH!T SH!T SH!T

6) Breaken says "release the Zerg"

7) The Swarm takes no prisoners

8) Todays forecast? Chance of Ban Hammer with a side of Schadenfreude

[Gimp]

This thread got awfully quiet :(

Enjoy your 10 day break TMBLOW, go get yourself some Budweisers.

[Spyder73]

See page 9 for MS Paint description of what happend

[Spyder73]

Page 5 - DERP

[maskedmelon]

7521

1) Pooping socking is going on as normal, nothing to see here

2) Hello, my name is nagafen, will you be my friend? No? *SWIPE* Loading...

3) SH!T SH!T SH!T SH!T NAGY POPPED BUT I GOT FTE SH!! SH!T SH!T

4) We are venerate! We have come for the Dragon

5) SH!T SH!T SH!T SH!T SH!T

6) Breaken says "release the Zerg"

7) The Swarm takes no prisoners

8) Todays forecast? Chance of Ban Hammer with a side of Schadenfreude

Now its on page 6 too ^^

[tombombadilo21]

Man, the only person rustled in this thread is Rustled as fuck Gimpster.

You are quickly elevating yourself to Alarti and Lazie level of retard / loser / pathetic.

Keep up the poor work, loser boy, and I'm sure you can beat out Lazie for dumbest poster on RNF!

[Nitsude]

I love Venerate but a competitive guild being competitive is now something to complain about?

I wasn't there, but pretty much this. No room for tears if someone beats you to a target. The correct response is improve and try harder next time. Some guilds we deal with would have backed off, most would not have.

This garbage about illegal FTE or whatever is hilarious but dumb, and is just another example of why Pantheon needs to hurry the fuck up.

[Gimp]

Me calling y'all out for knowingly breaking rules = I'm rustled

Solid logic there slick. Try harder cheesedick

[Expediency]

Can you see the washing machine go around and around?

Venerate: I want to get this dragon!
Rustle/Awakened: You can't have this dragon.
Venerate: This bullshit.
Awakened: Sorry bros!
Aftermath: Tracker FTE!
Awakened: No it's not tracker FTE!
Aftermath: You should be suspended!
Awakened: I won't be suspended!
Rustle: Damn these people are Rustled.
Aftermath: Don't worry guys, we will get it next time. Venerate, want to merge?
Venerate: We don't want to.
Aftermath: Come on guys! We need to beat Awakened.
Rustle: Extra vodka in my Arnold Palmer bartender!

If you put vodka in an Arnold Palmer it becomes a John Daly

[Eponymous Anonymous]

RNF without ms paint is boring.


http://i.imgur.com/69hBeGk.png

5 level 52 characters. I guess if all the anons are 52 or under it would be 10. Sick fucking zerg, man.

[Maner]

5 level 52 characters. I guess if all the anons are 52 or under it would be 10. Sick fucking zerg, man.

the lvl 60s are there to clear the giants so that the lvl 52s can all just engage naggy. Learn to zerg

[Prismaticshop]

Awakened still sore cunts

Rustle is rustled

A+ thread

[khysanth]

consider phinigel

[Skew]

Word is the first 10 dayer of Velious maybe about to land ( kites and trains on 3 successive Dains probably too hard to overlook )

[FatMice]

Word is the first 10 dayer of Velious maybe about to land ( kites and trains on 3 successive Dains probably too hard to overlook )

Hope for the best. Expect the worst.

[Susano]

Probably do a repop, then afterwards suspend the offending guild 5 days while nothing is in window.

[fiveeauxfour]

on this server, something is always in window

[Shinko]

lol #sad

[Fuddwin]

Word is the first 10 dayer of Velious maybe about to land ( kites and trains on 3 successive Dains probably too hard to overlook )

Really Skew? You honestly think anything will happen to them with Sirken running around? Don't you know how bad Sirken is? What train? Huh? Wha? GJ Awakened, go kick rocks everyone else!

[Detoxx]

Probably do a repop, then afterwards suspend the offending guild 5 days while nothing is in window.

Sussy, I thought we were friends? This breaks my heart, buddy.

[Susano]

Sussy, I thought we were friends? This breaks my heart, buddy.

GM rulings have been shit for a while on both sides of the fence. Not calling any old bros/brotettes out.

[Detoxx]

You know we were only suspended because we were the only guild that could of stopped the sleeper from being awoken!

[Susano]

You know we were only suspended because we were the only guild that could of stopped the sleeper from being awoken!

I didn't even remember the circumstances of that night, I was out and saw a crazy batphone and thought "well, that was short notice".

Worked out well though, got to dodge all the Sleeper hate since I wasn't on the hotlist of people in the Tomb that night.

I think people are talking about more recent goings on though, not that suspension if there was one then. Although I'm sure it was probably handled hamhandedly.

[bktroost]

Possibly the greatest non-issue these eyes have ever seen.

Don't let Nemce and the "please don't try so hard" crew brainwash you. The rule set on this server is never going to hand you free anything just because you're starting to clear towards a raid mob (that drops priceless loot), so get in the mindset that you need to play better and quicker to win, or it's going to be a long server life for you.

why is my name in your mouth?

[Mendo]

why is my name in your mouth?

Look guys! An Internet tough guy!

[Tankdan]

What happened, why did they FTE with a tracker, what am I missing!

Dinged 70 on Overwatch though

[CleverName100]

Haha great job awakened. Now that you can't deny people pixels that you already have for 15 days you can go spend time with your girlfriends. Oh wait lol.

[Legday]

why is my name in your mouth?

Because your (you, specifically) incessant whining essentially ruined what was a pretty fun and competitive raid scene. Is that not obvious to you?

[manguard]

... fun and competitive raid scene....

:rolleyes:

[Ella`Ella]

:rolleyes:

I think Legday still thinks of the raid scene as 'fun and competitive' because he's still relatively new to it. When he looks back in three years, he'll realize that he should have learned to play guitar, read more books, or taken up pottery as a better use of his spare time.

[Legday]

I think Legday still thinks of the raid scene as 'fun and competitive' because he's still relatively new to it. When he looks back in three years, he'll realize that he should have learned to play guitar, read more books, or taken up pottery as a better use of his spare time.

Newp.

The excitement of snap pulling a dragon in to camp while setting up a chain, tank order, monks tagging with low numbers was fun. The whole coordinated effort to pull off kills as people were still logging in where these was even a shred of a chance of a wipe because there was actually a premium on playing well.

Now we get FTE, wait around for the right class comp to log on and pull the thing in for an easy kill. It's boring af. It's so boring that any time anything actually does go wrong, the same players who used to be quick to react and make adjustments on the fly are now out of practice and more commonly make mistakes.

Every time it happens its a reminder of how things used to be fun and now, not so much.

[Colgate]

it's everquest dude don't kid yourself

[FatMice]

Newp.

The excitement of snap pulling a dragon in to camp while setting up a chain, tank order, monks tagging with low numbers was fun. The whole coordinated effort to pull off kills as people were still logging in where these was even a shred of a chance of a wipe because there was actually a premium on playing well.

Now we get FTE, wait around for the right class comp to log on and pull the thing in for an easy kill. It's boring af. It's so boring that any time anything actually does go wrong, the same players who used to be quick to react and make adjustments on the fly are now out of practice and more commonly make mistakes.

Every time it happens its a reminder of how things used to be fun and now, not so much.

YYUUUUUPPPP!

[Gapher]

Really Skew? You honestly think anything will happen to them with Sirken running around? Don't you know how bad Sirken is? What train? Huh? Wha? GJ Awakened, go kick rocks everyone else!

Wow this guy couldn't have been more wrong... Tell me does it get hot under that tinfoil?

[khysanth]

consider phinny

[bktroost]

Newp.

The excitement of snap pulling a dragon in to camp while setting up a chain, tank order, monks tagging with low numbers was fun. The whole coordinated effort to pull off kills as people were still logging in where these was even a shred of a chance of a wipe because there was actually a premium on playing well.

Now we get FTE, wait around for the right class comp to log on and pull the thing in for an easy kill. It's boring af. It's so boring that any time anything actually does go wrong, the same players who used to be quick to react and make adjustments on the fly are now out of practice and more commonly make mistakes.

Every time it happens its a reminder of how things used to be fun and now, not so much.

So if you want to understand something you do not currently understand you have to acknowledge that you are missing something and want to know the truth.


The truth is that I want a world where what you can "fun" and what I call "fun" is equally appreciated and there is a place for. I can completely understand how snap pulling dragons with low numbers can be perceived as fun. It's not to me, but I get that.

I proposed that we split the content and allow for you to go outside on the weeks you do not snap pull dragons and I get to go outside on weeks we do not get to passively kill with casuals. Both of us get our "fun" and neither of us burns out.


The reason this was not accepted by those who mattered (although it was accepted by every guild other than A/A) is because it means less mobs for you.

Sirken said things were changing to include casuals. Your team bucked hard and didn't want an even concession and now no one is happy.


/shrug. I'm sure this will be another bump in an otherwise meaningless thread, hurtling through the depths of RnF space where no one can hear you scream.

[FatMice]

I am seriously dumbfounded by you.

We get it. You think your entente is the salvation of this server.

Everquest has always been a game of competition not game difficulty. It is a time sink inherent to the coding that makes the game run. Get over you socialistic tendencies.
Your merit toward creating a balance between hardcore and casual is undeserving on this server and game.

I doubt one-third of the hardcore raiders who play on Project 1999 think their game should be altered by a casual guild leader.

[Pokesan]

I am seriously dumbfounded by you.

We get it. You think your entente is the salvation of this server.

Everquest has always been a game of competition not game difficulty. It is a time sink inherent to the coding that makes the game run. Get over you socialistic tendencies.
Your merit toward creating a balance between hardcore and casual is undeserving on this server and game.

I doubt one-third of the hardcore raiders who play on Project 1999 think their game should be altered by a casual guild leader.

eat the rich

[Ravager]

Everquest has always been a game of competition not game difficulty.

Incorrect. The game was game of difficulty before the mechanics, quests and how-to's were accessible to the masses.

[JurisDictum]

Incorrect. The game was game of difficulty before the mechanics, quests and how-to's were accessible to the masses.

This is why a truely 100% classic experience is impossible. Unless you found a group of people that never played and wouldn't look anything up.

[FatMice]

Incorrect. The game was game of difficulty before the mechanics, quests and how-to's were accessible to the masses.

This is an information issue not game difficulty. I fear of sounding like Nemce, MMORPG is a game genre. A genre that is inherent to game mechanics not player ability. First person shooters, puzzle games, and pure strategy games pose more difficulty than most mechanics in Everquest. Sorry but Classic Everquest by no means is a difficult game circa late 90's.

[Ravager]

This is an information issue not game difficulty. I fear of sounding like Nemce, MMORPG is a game genre. A genre that is inherent to game mechanics not player ability. First person shooters, puzzle games, and pure strategy games pose more difficulty than most mechanics in Everquest. Sorry but Classic Everquest by no means is a difficult game circa late 90's.

Lack of information contributes significantly to game difficulty. The stock market and poker would both be trivial for anyone who possesses all of the information. There's a reason why baseball pitchers try to vary their pitches, because they are easier to hit when the batter knows what's coming. Any NFL team would be at a serious advantage if they were told what to expect from their opponents for every single play.

It's funny that you mention first person shooters, pure strategy games and puzzles, because they are challenging for the fact that you don't have all of the information. A player with a knowledge of the game mechanics, yet are otherwise unskilled who could spy on their opponent's screen would dominate, regardless of the skill disparity for such games. You can try this for yourself at a lan party, place your monitor so that a weaker opponent can see it and see how you fair.

In particular with EverQuest, if you don't know how to spawn Quillmane, the camp becomes significantly more difficult as you try a thousand different theories, whether yours or others on how to get the dumb horse to appear. That's just one example off the top of my head. How many years were people making things more difficult because they believed there was an anti-camp radius, or other such anecdotes going around?

[bktroost]

Get over you socialistic tendencies.

so·cial·ism
ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/Submit
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.


My ideas are not socialistic in nature at all. I am advocating for a division of (if this was economy) fair trade.

A diversified capitalism, if you will.

You have a branch of corporate america that compete with their billions (excessive man hours) through marketing (their posted kills each week) and thrive in a competing market system (providing dkp stimulus packages for new members and a promise of x amount of pixels for your invested time to counter the competitor's offer.) The privately owned businesses operate under different legal practices (less strict rules regarding raiding attendance) and are in a different tax bracket (less time invested per kill) at the cost of their significantly less net profit at the end of the day (less pixels).



I suggested a competative raid scene for the hard cores that would operate under their spectrum of raiding (cross wing pulls, insta FTEs, Cothing) and a division of competative raiding for the casuals (foot races, FIF rules, no leapfrogging, etc).


I don't dictate your competition and you don't dictate my competition. Completely laissez faire for each division. The polar opposite of socialism.

[Skew]

You think foot racing is for casuals ? :eek:
You know nothing Jon Snow.

[bktroost]

You think foot racing is for casuals ? :eek:
You know nothing Jon Snow.

I've foot raced. Its not bad at all. It just depends on how many hours I want yo foot race for.

[Skew]

I've foot raced. Its not bad at all. It just depends on how many hours I want yo foot race for.

The point is you have a snow ball chance in hell of getting an FTE on a target AM or Awakened are gunning for. Casuals greatest chance of competiing with hardcore raid guilds was Coth. It was the great equaliser.
Let me know when CSG win an FTE on Doze , Vulak , KT , Eashan or any mob past Aary when theres no 1 hour lock out in place . You fucked yourselves GG

[bktroost]

The point is you have a snow ball chance in hell of getting an FTE on a target AM or Awakened are gunning for. Casuals greatest chance of competiing with hardcore raid guilds was Coth. It was the great equaliser.
Let me know when CSG win an FTE on Doze , Vulak , KT , Eashan or any mob past Aary when theres no 1 hour lock out in place . You fucked yourselves GG

We've already won footraces on ikitiar, eashan and I personally raced for sevalak on a pop. Not a hand out. Huh? Get your data right friend. Wild speculation.

[bktroost]

The point is you have a snow ball chance in hell of getting an FTE on a target AM or Awakened are gunning for. Casuals greatest chance of competiing with hardcore raid guilds was Coth. It was the great equaliser.
Let me know when CSG win an FTE on Doze , Vulak , KT , Eashan or any mob past Aary when theres no 1 hour lock out in place . You fucked yourselves GG

Also, when anon was racing they won a statue fte I believe against aftermath.

[Zekayy]

Also, when anon was racing they won a statue fte I believe against aftermath.

Couldnt kill it without awakened or aftermaths guidence

[jcr4990]

Also, when anon was racing they won a statue fte I believe against aftermath.

I like Anon no problems with them but you do realize what actually happened right? The guy that won the race for Anon is one of my closest friends that I've been gaming with on and off for like 10 years. Gimp had him by a mile and he got FTE cause he turned the corner and shot his bow and by sheer luck it proc'd and instantly FTE'd instead of waiting for flight time of the arrow. Gimp would've 100% gotten that FTE had Louu's bow not proc'd when it did. Let's also not forget that was 1 race out of probably hundreds since the footraces started. How many has CSG won since they started? I'm guessing less than 10? Not sure what you're getting at but I don't think you're convincing anybody that footraces are good or that raiding outside A/A on P99 is fun.

[Zekayy]

I like Anon no problems with them but you do realize what actually happened right? The guy that won the race for Anon is one of my closest friends that I've been gaming with on and off for like 10 years. Gimp had him by a mile and he got FTE cause he turned the corner and shot his bow and by sheer luck it proc'd and instantly FTE'd instead of waiting for flight time of the arrow. Gimp would've 100% gotten that FTE had Louu's bow not proc'd when it did. Let's also not forget that was 1 race out of probably hundreds since the footraces started. How many has CSG won since they started? I'm guessing less than 10? Not sure what you're getting at but I don't think you're convincing anybody that footraces are good or that raiding outside A/A on P99 is fun.

Less than 10

[Gimp]

I like Anon no problems with them but you do realize what actually happened right? The guy that won the race for Anon is one of my closest friends that I've been gaming with on and off for like 10 years. Gimp had him by a mile and he got FTE cause he turned the corner and shot his bow and by sheer luck it proc'd and instantly FTE'd instead of waiting for flight time of the arrow. Gimp would've 100% gotten that FTE had Louu's bow not proc'd when it did. Let's also not forget that was 1 race out of probably hundreds since the footraces started. How many has CSG won since they started? I'm guessing less than 10? Not sure what you're getting at but I don't think you're convincing anybody that footraces are good or that raiding outside A/A on P99 is fun.

Fuckin bow procs

[Zekayy]

I thought bda was gone from p99 ? Why do these virgin LARP fans still post here ?

The tag is still there
Lots of rampage tags
Lots of Forsaken Tags
Lots of TMO Tags
Even seen a indignation tag the other day
Seen a few A-Team tags
My point is they cant ever get rid of the tag but are gone

[JackFlash]

The tag is still there
Lots of rampage tags
Lots of Forsaken Tags
Lots of TMO Tags
Even seen a indignation tag the other day
Seen a few A-Team tags
My point is they cant ever get rid of the tag but are gone

Missing a few generations in that list.....server has been up longer than those 4th stringers.

[jcr4990]

I thought bda was gone from p99 ? Why do these virgin LARP fans still post here ?

As long as it continues to rustle people that I post here I will continue to post here. Thank you for feeding me.

[Skew]

We've already won footraces on ikitiar, eashan and I personally raced for sevalak on a pop. Not a hand out. Huh? Get your data right friend. Wild speculation.

1 hour lock or targets AM or Aw are going for . Read.
We never challenge Iki if somethig is in window. When did u win Eashen - during a lock? Ridiculous rules.
Statue was a bow proc - the snow ball in hell got lucky and Anon have some hardier neck beards .
Sevelak ? You raced yourselves .
Well enjoy the scraps under rules you brought about - you'd have had a genuine shot at trying to pull a Vulak or fight into Doze with the old rules .

[syztem]

Makes me shiver to think of raiding on blue with so much drama about waiting in lives and fte and camp claims...

[Legday]

I suggested a competative raid scene for the hard cores that would operate under their spectrum of raiding (cross wing pulls, insta FTEs, Cothing) and a division of competative raiding for the casuals (foot races, FIF rules, no leapfrogging, etc).

What you're failing to you realize is that A/A would never agree to this even if we were feeling generous, simply because the amount of time it would take you guys to clear to and down each target after it spawned would space out the windows muchfaster than the semi-insta kills we are doing now.

Long variance is the problem in this situation. And as long as you all are wanting to play the game your way by repetitively clearing and wiping and leaving dragons standing on their spawn points, you would be compounding be the issue. The next week it was our turn we would be looking at a completely drawn out set of windows.

[bktroost]

I like Anon no problems with them but you do realize what actually happened right? The guy that won the race for Anon is one of my closest friends that I've been gaming with on and off for like 10 years. Gimp had him by a mile and he got FTE cause he turned the corner and shot his bow and by sheer luck it proc'd and instantly FTE'd instead of waiting for flight time of the arrow. Gimp would've 100% gotten that FTE had Louu's bow not proc'd when it did. Let's also not forget that was 1 race out of probably hundreds since the footraces started. How many has CSG won since they started? I'm guessing less than 10? Not sure what you're getting at but I don't think you're convincing anybody that footraces are good or that raiding outside A/A on P99 is fun.

we haven't tried racing more than 10.

[Kaziel]

Get over you socialistic tendencies.
Your merit toward creating a balance between hardcore and casual is undeserving on this server and game.

I doubt one-third of the hardcore raiders who play on Project 1999 think their game should be altered by a casual guild leader.

You're not working hard for anything, you're logging into a game. I despise socialism irl but to attempt to compare it to letting everyone have some fun on P99 is absolutely bizarre.

[FatMice]

You're not working hard for anything, you're logging into a game.

Ya got me. But I don't log in anymore.

[derpcake]

Footraces were the pinnacle of classic EQ.

Its not like you are all wasting your time on a dead-end server.

Carry on.

[Skinned]

What happened, why did they FTE with a tracker, what am I missing!

Dinged 70 on Overwatch though

It's okay to ask about the guy swinging from your nuts.