Venril Sathir

[Golla1988]

Will there ever be a time where he isn't permanently camped by some high end guild? I've been wanting to get my epic for ages but everyone has basically told me to just give up because getting a spot in a group to fight VS is worth more than my soul. Can there really be that many Druids trying to get their epic that some of the little guys never get their chance at becoming good enough to join the types of guilds that perma camp these bosses? I'm at the point now where I'd trade a pre-nerfed CoS and 3kpp just for a chance to roll for the Stone he drops. Anyone feel me on this? Sorry, rant over.

-Papp from Homeland Security

[gildor]

Sorry dude, its how it is....the raids locked down VS and VSR because their members need epics still..and it not mains alts..

Those hardcore raiders or even "casual" raiders have been in countless hours helping the rest of their guild take content and get loot, VSR is part of that cycle.

You can probably buy the MQ of the VS drop from someone if you dont want to join a raiding guild

[Swish]

VSR was up for hours the other day.

[raato]

I think currently VSR is becoming less and less contested. Last Tuesday it stayed up for hours and I think its becoming alot more available since its a daily thing nowadays and its filling up nicely the cap that 1 weekly VS with only a slight chance to drop the stone made to servers druid/ranger populations epics.

So its not any more "permanently" camped. I would say your best bet to get it is to camp it during ToV/Kael boss windows are open (Monday-Wednesday atm I think), then there is best chance it will be up for hours instead of minutes.

You will need about 20-25 decently geared friends to make it a succesfull kill if you got right tactics for it. Multiple enchanters is the key to win :)

[maerilith]

What is the value of a pixel compared to a mans life? (https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=what+is+the+value+of+a+mans+life&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)

[kgallowaypa]

You can get by with 1 chanter chaining rune on the MT but if the chanter gets agro and there are no mallets, Good game my friend.

[Phaezed-Reality]

can confirm, was that 1 enchanter.

[maskedmelon]

VSR isn't perma-camped. You see peeps face tracking VS sometimes, but for the most part the guilds that get him just mobilize quickly.

[kgallowaypa]

can confirm, was that 1 enchanter.

#Forthehorde

[ArumTP]

Not perma camped, just terrible scrubs can't kill VSR correctly. I can attest to at least at one point there had been 5 unsuccessful attempts in a row by terrible guilds

[bktroost]

Not perma camped, just terrible scrubs can't kill VSR correctly. I can attest to at least at one point there had been 5 unsuccessful attempts in a row by terrible guilds

The real problem is people doing a second turn in after someone already did the first turn in. Since it spawns a separate VSR on a separate 20 minute despawn they are two separate triggered mobs and no one has a right to turn in on someone else's second turn in without breaking rules... but they do. So VSR goes ham on a guild who otherwise thought they got the first turn in and were safe to prep.

Greed=less stones for the server.

[Trungep99]

Sorry dude, its how it is....the raids locked down VS and VSR because their members need epics still..and it not mains alts..



Not completely true, just a few days ago we helped a main druid get his epic in Aftermath. You would be surprised how many people missing their epics on their mains.

[Cecily]

Will there ever be a time where he isn't permanently camped by some high end guild? I've been wanting to get my epic for ages but everyone has basically told me to just give up because getting a spot in a group to fight VS is worth more than my soul. Can there really be that many Druids trying to get their epic that some of the little guys never get their chance at becoming good enough to join the types of guilds that perma camp these bosses? I'm at the point now where I'd trade a pre-nerfed CoS and 3kpp just for a chance to roll for the Stone he drops. Anyone feel me on this? Sorry, rant over.

-Papp from Homeland Security

Are you completely done besides VS?

[xexbis0]

At least one high end guild advertised it as a point of pride that they epicced alts #5 by my count by bragging on their front page of their website. You got a long ass wait for VS bud.

[bktroost]

Soon. Very soon. AG has just started getting excess epic items. Half of them are going to the bank and the other half are being given away to service providers like Dial-a-port and department of fun people. CSG guilds don't raid to epic alts. In AG at least I can assure you that I have and will continue to funnel these items into the community to mains before we epic our porting alts.

[Uuruk]

Soon. Very soon. AG has just started getting excess epic items. Half of them are going to the bank and the other half are being given away to service providers like Dial-a-port and department of fun people. CSG guilds don't raid to epic alts. In AG at least I can assure you that I have and will continue to funnel these items into the community to mains before we epic our porting alts.

Cool story, hope ur next post is how you spend 50 hours a week on a server never going past Velious.

Thanks.

[trite]

Will there ever be a time where he isn't permanently camped by some high end guild? I've been wanting to get my epic for ages but everyone has basically told me to just give up because getting a spot in a group to fight VS is worth more than my soul. Can there really be that many Druids trying to get their epic that some of the little guys never get their chance at becoming good enough to join the types of guilds that perma camp these bosses? I'm at the point now where I'd trade a pre-nerfed CoS and 3kpp just for a chance to roll for the Stone he drops. Anyone feel me on this? Sorry, rant over.

-Papp from Homeland Security


Haha this is a temporary situation the high end guilds have some no life players with many alts and they are finishing dozens of epics for these characters right now but this guy is so common now the MQ is already down to like 40-50k and will not be hard to get forever....before the change to VS you had no chance, now you will.....also this is nowhere near as bad as earth staff not dropping for mages for months ....many mages went off the deep end

[trite]

So here is what's happening in a nut shell when you look at awakend's home page.....they don't update their home page much but last couple updates were about getting alternate characters epics finally

http://www.awakenedguild.com/

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/1488809/27055262/1464873058340/Wiz.jpg?token=EEa7N41UM65VB8CEmNZUUyDI5mE%3D

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/1488809/27027553/1463428083440/Epics.jpg?token=EEa7N41UM65VB8CEmNZUUyDI5mE%3D

[bktroost]

Cool story, hope ur next post is how you spend 50 hours a week on a server never going past Velious.

Thanks.

I have a primal spear... why so salty? Good will =/= bad players

[bktroost]

I have a primal spear... why so salty? Good will =/= bad players

oh missread that. thought you said 50 hours a week never going into Velious. As in we are a Kunark bound guild. I was like...?!

So the real retort to that is that I barely play EQ. I get on 2-3 times a week for about 2-3 hours.

[Nibblewitz]

Is that primal spear on your main or alt?

[Skew]

oh missread that. thought you said 50 hours a week never going into Velious. As in we are a Kunark bound guild. I was like...?!

So the real retort to that is that I barely play EQ. I get on 2-3 times a week for about 2-3 hours.

...but i still want to dictate how people who chose to put more time into the game should play!

[Turp]

The hardcores do not even track VS should be able to get a shot at stone or buy a MQ.
But this is the other guilds that focus on VS and Inny Fay etc. They will surely sale the items because they are probably flooded with them.

Lower variance and all windows would spawn on the same day and not spread out. (forcing people to pick and choose and leaving lots up for the little guy) instead the casual leaders of CSG and others cry for more repops or other non sense.
and mass repops will never happen.
They are to dumb to realize that shorter variance , then 1 repop, would be like mass repops in a way , because all the windows stay so close that LOTS of dragons are left up because their is more important stuff in window. With 16 hour windows the spawn timers spread apart so far so fast that the 2 big guilds can cover every single target because its not all spawning on the same day. Its spawning all week long so enjoy the casual leaders gift. They love getting shit on.

[Turp]

Didn't see that website until just now so maybe I was wrong on the "high end guilds"
(there are 2) maybe Awaken are going for VS Inny and fay still? I know Rustle new guild killed Inny I believe. It is a lot easier to get it now though. If You are not going to raid then you have to buy it. You cannot solo it. You raid it , or solo plat and buy it.

No reason to complain , it is way easier to get it now with VSR every 3 days! Pretty damn sure this is not the two top guilds killing VSR this is "casuals" or a group of people wanting to control the market on something. Keep an eye on whos saling MQ. The price will keep dropping due to the 3 day spawn timer just was implemented.
Buy it now and pay big or wait a month and probably get it for 20k or less.

of course... This ALL could of been solved when these leaders got a magic rare meeting with a GM to change raid policy a few months ago. They chose to push for repops and other off the wall ideas and in the end they got races (which they very rarely even try , LOL at the "leaders" that side has) . They could of had everyone on board to lower variance (not remove) and the end result would of been better for everyone. Way more raid targets would be left up for the smaller guilds because the bigger guilds would be focused on ToV.
smh , Would of been a win/win.
Instead they want to lose races. The casuals should hire a more hardcore guild rep for these meetings (if you even get one again) so they don't fight to put themselves as bottom feeders instead of fighting to be a good guild.

[Freakish]

Nobody cares about Inny. He doesn't drop epic pieces, just the race specific items of which only one or two are even desired.

[Cecily]

I kinda like the elf wrist.

[Tupakk]

You should join a guild if you want a shot at VS or have a lot of really well geared friends. It isn't something that you could just 6 man, hence why a lot of the guilds go for it and still are.

[bktroost]

Didn't see that website until just now so maybe I was wrong on the "high end guilds"
(there are 2) maybe Awaken are going for VS Inny and fay still? I know Rustle new guild killed Inny I believe. It is a lot easier to get it now though. If You are not going to raid then you have to buy it. You cannot solo it. You raid it , or solo plat and buy it.

No reason to complain , it is way easier to get it now with VSR every 3 days! Pretty damn sure this is not the two top guilds killing VSR this is "casuals" or a group of people wanting to control the market on something. Keep an eye on whos saling MQ. The price will keep dropping due to the 3 day spawn timer just was implemented.
Buy it now and pay big or wait a month and probably get it for 20k or less.

of course... This ALL could of been solved when these leaders got a magic rare meeting with a GM to change raid policy a few months ago. They chose to push for repops and other off the wall ideas and in the end they got races (which they very rarely even try , LOL at the "leaders" that side has) . They could of had everyone on board to lower variance (not remove) and the end result would of been better for everyone. Way more raid targets would be left up for the smaller guilds because the bigger guilds would be focused on ToV.
smh , Would of been a win/win.
Instead they want to lose races. The casuals should hire a more hardcore guild rep for these meetings (if you even get one again) so they don't fight to put themselves as bottom feeders instead of fighting to be a good guild.

So you wanted to derail this thread with that particular argument eh? Clever choice. I see how you thought that could apply and quickly spin into 10 pages here.


Anyway, yes VS will be less contested very soon. No you won't ever get it with a single group of random people you group with in KC. Well rarely if ever. So you will need a guild's assistance, a MQ gift from a casual guild or to purchase it on the market.

[bktroost]

Is that primal spear on your main or alt?

Main

[Uuruk]

Still trying to figure out why people log into this shit pile

[Nibblewitz]

The hypocrisy is real.

[bktroost]

Still trying to figure out why people log into this shit pile

Because I never burnt myself out on high end raiding. It's never really NOT been fun. Just shift expectations as those who are clearly not having fun at "the top" continue to shift their focuses. VP is mostly open now, ST is partly open, some of NToV is open.

/shrug. In 5 years its been a steady progression line upwards on the graph with little to no burnout in my people. Some have been impatient and left for other guilds and now no longer play.

16 hour variance means nothing to me because I'm not going to do it. If I got a few hours I'll sit there. If not pppft next time. I'm in no rush and neither are us casuals.

[Zekayy]

Because I never burnt myself out on high end raiding. It's never really NOT been fun. Just shift expectations as those who are clearly not having fun at "the top" continue to shift their focuses. VP is mostly open now, ST is partly open, some of NToV is open.

/shrug. In 5 years its been a steady progression line upwards on the graph with little to no burnout in my people. Some have been impatient and left for other guilds and now no longer play.

16 hour variance means nothing to me because I'm not going to do it. If I got a few hours I'll sit there. If not pppft next time. I'm in no rush and neither are us casuals.

Reason VP is open is because BDA left

[bktroost]

Reason VP is open is because BDA left

yes i'm quite aware.

[Swish]

So BDA are having fun somewhere else and everyone is having fun in VP.

I like happy endings.

[AnonymousFQ_099]

You got a long ass wait for VS bud.

This, if OP was a Wizard. The best 2 guilds on the server still aren't done with theirs yet apparently, and even when TOV is in window, small splinter forces will go wipe him out for them and get back to the socking bigger targets.

Since OP is a Druid, or Ranger (because OP asked for the stone he drops) it is much more likely you just need a guild/alliance that can take VS, Triggered VS through VSR/Spirit of VS is still the same difficulty as normal "REAL" VS, although I believe that is not classic. VSR spawns very often now, minimal socking needed. I believe it is up to 24 hours after the last Venril Sathir death (regardless if triggered or real VS)

At any rate, good luck.