Were you trained? Or were you a road block?

[Lojik]

Any distinguished lawyers here who can clarify for us exactly when a party is or isn't liable for npcs they pull onto another party? I know people here love rules!

Put this in rnf cause you know it's gonna go here anyway

[Pokesan]

You're always responsible for the mobs you pull. However offended parties must have standing to file a claim, usually means your group/raid being trained to death.

Bard trains exist in a quasi-legal grey area - you're allowed to pull off their swarms, but it's not illegal for them to zone out or die on purpose to punish you for doing so.

[Savok]

First, although I'm a bard I never swarm - I can't stand doing it and I think its zone disruption so I don't.

Having said that if someone has agro on a mob why do you think you can pull mobs off of him/her? Why is having agro on more than one mob different than a solo pull? If you pulled 4 mobs to a group can I pull a mob off of you because you have agro on more than 1?

[maerilith]

Depends on how your petition quest goes. IMO I think anytime there's a dispute players should be tried just like an American Criminal trial and GMs could just randomly summon players out of the world into a jury pool waiting room and you could have in game players be real in game lawyers and pick players based on their personal biases and try to find out who is right and who is wrong.

[maerilith]

would love to summon half a guild who just got FTE to be the jury at the trial of a level 13 newbs prosecution after a train of beetles in unrest.

Feel me?

[Pokesan]

You can pull mobs off anyone if they have more than 4. Pulling off when it's 4 or less is KSing.

[maerilith]

After a month of this norrath would be fixed and people would chill the fuck out a bit. cauze no one likes sitting in the jury pool.

[maerilith]

So if you only bring 4 mobs 2 not ur group it's a pull and not a train then?

[maerilith]

pokesan let's clarify this for great jutice.

[Pokesan]

Depends on how your petition quest goes. IMO I think anytime there's a dispute players should be tried just like an American Criminal trial and GMs could just randomly summon players out of the world into a jury pool waiting room and you could have in game players be real in game lawyers and pick players based on their personal biases and try to find out who is right and who is wrong.

Archeage had player courts and jail soccer. So much wasted potential in that game.

[maerilith]

For clarification purposes if I was at a convention and these 3 sexy young guys followed me into your small clique of friends in the corner popping oxys and putting on lipstick

http://i.imgur.com/neUdHIg.png

That would just be a normal pull and not a train right?

What if I engaged all 3 of them right there infront of your group? Is that still ok or not?

[Pokesan]

lol

[maerilith]

Archeage had player courts and jail soccer. So much wasted potential in that game.

I loved ashrons calls Allegiance (http://asheron.wikia.com/wiki/Allegiance) was an awesome way to positively reinforce good players by allowing them to have vassals and rewarding players instead of punishing them.

But player court fuckyeah :D

[maerilith]

lol

I may be a bit chubby and hairy, but you have to admit my brain is fcking sexy.

[Manticmuse]

All of the ignores look like i popped forum divine aura. Cheers!

[maerilith]

daft punk is a lame band

[maskedmelon]

All of the ignores look like i popped forum divine aura. Cheers!

lol, this was funny ^^

[Lojik]

All of the ignores look like i popped forum divine aura. Cheers!

Think this thread got trained

[Baler]

were you disrupting the zone or violating the plat nice policy?

[Priceline]

Make chardok zone in area PvP ffa flagged. No more server ruining proxy selling bs.

[Priceline]

What if I engaged all 3 of them right there infront of your group? Is that still ok or not?

This could be the next big thing, instead of assuming someone's gender incorrectly and triggering them you assault there senses with a man train meat copter orgy.

[Shadowfist]

Make chardok zone in area PvP ffa flagged. No more server ruining proxy selling bs.

Oh god, please this. There would always be something fun to do!

[Trollhide]

You can pull mobs off anyone if they have more than 4. Pulling off when it's 4 or less is KSing.
What if you have 5 mobs and one of them is named with pro loots? Is it legal to take the named one off them?

What if it's a raid mob and 4 trash mobs?

Asking for a friend

[Lojik]

What if you have 5 mobs and one of them is named with pro loots? Is it legal to take the named one off them?

What if it's a raid mob and 4 trash mobs?

Asking for a friend

Raid mob def no cause they have fte, named is interesting question, although I doubt gms would let you snag a named merb off someone

[Maliant]

Funny that people think there are rules for every situation. There are not, there are general guidelines and everything else is based on mutual respect and working together. It's a game, don't get your jimmies rustled.

[Nibblewitz]

mutual respect and working together

and this is where you are wrong.

[Lojik]

Funny that people think there are rules for every situation. There are not, there are general guidelines and everything else is based on mutual respect and working together. It's a game, don't get your jimmies rustled.

Lol

[Pokesan]

What if you have 5 mobs and one of them is named with pro loots? Is it legal to take the named one off them?

What if it's a raid mob and 4 trash mobs?

Asking for a friend

mighty fine lawyerin'

pras

[Maliant]

Knew I'd get shit for that comment, ideally the nerds wouldn't need out so hard and they would respect each other. The rules were meant to help foster these principles. Obviously though, nerds gunna nerd rage.

[radda]

I had most of the seafurries early yesterday and they had been up for awhile due to a lull in no one killing them, so I found about 12 and started reverse charm kiting, some angry necromancer trains corrupted on me and I had to cap out on the bard

[radda]

were you disrupting the zone or violating the plat nice policy?

Violating the plat nice party

[Sodors Finest Poster]

What if you have 5 mobs and one of them is named with pro loots? Is it legal to take the named one off them?

What if it's a raid mob and 4 trash mobs?

Asking for a friend


Has there been a precedent? We may have to escalate this to the Sodor High Court.

[SamwiseRed]

age of wushu has jail too. so did grail (old ass game)

[Expediency]

First, although I'm a bard I never swarm - I can't stand doing it and I think its zone disruption so I don't.

Having said that if someone has agro on a mob why do you think you can pull mobs off of him/her? Why is having agro on more than one mob different than a solo pull? If you pulled 4 mobs to a group can I pull a mob off of you because you have agro on more than 1?

You absolutely can not pull mobs off a 4 mob kite. I believe the ruling by the GMs is that 4 mobs is legitimate, as is swarm kiting, but if a person has more than 4 mobs, you may pull one from the swarm.

I would infer from this rule that a group could legitimately pull 4 mobs per person at one time before they are breaking rules but thats just my interpretation. I cant see why any group would pull more than 5-6 at a time, but if you are handling the camp someone cant just run up and snatch a mob because you have 4 mezzed while you fight one. There are plenty of camps that require handling 4+ mobs to initially break them.

[Expediency]

Knew I'd get shit for that comment, ideally the nerds wouldn't need out so hard and they would respect each other. The rules were meant to help foster these principles. Obviously though, nerds gunna nerd rage.

They'll give you shit no matter what you say, they are trolling a free 17year old game forum. Thats rock bottom. Your time here will be much more enjoyable if you just start blocking trolls/shitposters. 20% of the accounts cause 80% of the horrible posts.