Kuriel 52 necro kser

[luciusslayer]

Just wanted to give anyone a heads up but I've noticed an unguidled 52 necro named Kuriel going into upper guk and ksing people and stealing their camp just to mess with them, did it to 2 people tonight. Petitioned this person too, they were a major ass about it too, watch out for them if leveling in that area

[SamwiseRed]

just kill him

[NegaStoat]

I entered upper guk with one of my characters with the plan of enjoying the evening doing some temple of sol Ro quests. Having had good luck in other zones, I had no issues getting 2 drops in Guk and went after a 3rd. In all instances, no one was camping anything so I guess I was in a good mood.

My target was the nokta shaman for an orb which has a 17% chance to spawn, and a 1/3 drop rate (if that). I strolled over to the spawn site, saw it was empty, confirmed the Loc was right, summoned a pet, waited over 10 min, then respawns happened and I blew them up. Around then you showed up and said it was your camp. I got the immediate impression that you and your friend(s) were roving from chamber to chamber to collect frog Exp with timed respawns in a cycle, which is normally a good plan. The thing is, while I respected your desire for exp, I didn't feel a particular need to ask persmission to loot a quest drop from a camp that wasn't being held for an extended time period.

Back when I first started playing on the server I learned early on that camps require a physical presence to be held. While camping the Lfay sisters at lvl 16 and then later on, the butcherblock dock dwarves I ended up losing both camps because I went off to sell during respawn downtime and returned in both instances to someone else being there, even though no spawns were up yet. Two different GM's informed me each time of what I just typed - the moment I left the camp, I gave it up. The new people that were sitting at the sites were the new owners.

Oddly enough, at least one person in the zone didn't feel the urge to come leaping to your defense. But stating that I KS'd you and took the spawn location while you were present is complete bullshit. Screenshots with crappy UI incoming.

http://s6.postimg.org/latdndse9/de_froggies_01.jpg
http://s6.postimg.org/rd10dvgu9/de_froggies_02.jpg
http://s6.postimg.org/uxwvx3ldt/de_froggies_03.jpg

But hey, on the bright side I got my completely retarded quest item drop within 2 hours of camping it the correct way, just like the game intended. I feel so proud.

http://s6.postimg.org/ikk1q6vpd/de_froggies_04.jpg

[manguard]

congrats on the drama

[Aesop]

for the record on red one of y'all could have murdered the other one over this. At least one of you would have felt awesome about it.

consider red 2016!

[Bionic]

Oh c'mon Aesop, be honest.. on Red they would have been the only person in Upper Guk and this never would have happened.

[Faywind]

for the record on red one of y'all could have murdered the other one over this. At least one of you would have felt awesome about it.

consider red 2016!

True but it wouldnt have happened on red. It would be rare to see anyone else on that server :p

[Swish]

What's fun about blue is working out which of the 5000 rules you broke after someone said they were petitioning, then working out how to lawyer yourself out of it when the green police show up.

[Spyder73]

Appears to be a backfire thread in the making – happy happy, joy joy

[maskedmelon]

How's it feel to be an ass OP?

[Swish]

The highlight for me so far is that the other guy took screenshots, so knew there was going to be some shit over it. Both as bad as each other.

[luciusslayer]

I entered upper guk with one of my characters with the plan of enjoying the evening doing some temple of sol Ro quests. Having had good luck in other zones, I had no issues getting 2 drops in Guk and went after a 3rd. In all instances, no one was camping anything so I guess I was in a good mood.

My target was the nokta shaman for an orb which has a 17% chance to spawn, and a 1/3 drop rate (if that). I strolled over to the spawn site, saw it was empty, confirmed the Loc was right, summoned a pet, waited over 10 min, then respawns happened and I blew them up. Around then you showed up and said it was your camp. I got the immediate impression that you and your friend(s) were roving from chamber to chamber to collect frog Exp with timed respawns in a cycle, which is normally a good plan. The thing is, while I respected your desire for exp, I didn't feel a particular need to ask persmission to loot a quest drop from a camp that wasn't being held for an extended time period.

Back when I first started playing on the server I learned early on that camps require a physical presence to be held. While camping the Lfay sisters at lvl 16 and then later on, the butcherblock dock dwarves I ended up losing both camps because I went off to sell during respawn downtime and returned in both instances to someone else being there, even though no spawns were up yet. Two different GM's informed me each time of what I just typed - the moment I left the camp, I gave it up. The new people that were sitting at the sites were the new owners.

Oddly enough, at least one person in the zone didn't feel the urge to come leaping to your defense. But stating that I KS'd you and took the spawn location while you were present is complete bullshit. Screenshots with crappy UI incoming.

http://s6.postimg.org/latdndse9/de_froggies_01.jpg
http://s6.postimg.org/rd10dvgu9/de_froggies_02.jpg
http://s6.postimg.org/uxwvx3ldt/de_froggies_03.jpg

But hey, on the bright side I got my completely retarded quest item drop within 2 hours of camping it the correct way, just like the game intended. I feel so proud.

http://s6.postimg.org/ikk1q6vpd/de_froggies_04.jpg

You left out the the fact every mob was cleared at the camp and we were sitting at the safe spot waiting for repops, we were standing right next to u messaging you during the very first repop, you literally ran right by us like an ass and started ksing our mobs and took over the camp. We had every mob cleared at camp for about 3 hours straight with around 3 - 5 mins of downtime between respawns. This guy is a rela piece of work and someone who should go to red or get banned form blue

[Swish]

This guy is a rela piece of work and someone who should go to red...

What's that supposed to mean? u got beef?

[luciusslayer]

the guy psychotron you made buddies with earlier was training another group and telling some guy he was going to suck his dad off, not the best person to back you up

[luciusslayer]

What's that supposed to mean? u got beef?

It means if they want to ks people or take their camp go to red, thats what red is for, this is classic blue not where you go in a high zem zone and take a camp from lvl 30's when you're 52 and be an ass about it and ks them

[maskedmelon]

It means if they want to ks people or take their camp go to red, thats what red is for, this is classic blue not where you go in a high zem zone and take a camp from lvl 30's when you're 52 and be an ass about it and ks them

Red is for justice.


Agree with your assessment of blue though. Did this fellow take your other camps too, or just the one?

[luciusslayer]

The highlight for me so far is that the other guy took screenshots, so knew there was going to be some shit over it. Both as bad as each other.

all the screenshots tell you is i was right next to him as he took our first mob i literally watched him take our first mob than i agroe the next one and he sent his pet on it after and ksed it, then he continued to steal the mobs so my group broke up and we petitioned him.

[luciusslayer]

Red is for justice.


Agree with your assessment of blue though. Did this fellow take your other camps too, or just the one?

We were camping the 9 spawns outside AC, he sat in the room with 3 spawns and took those and we logged after cause we knew he would just keep ksing us so we called it a night

[Trungep99]

whoever was at the camp first has it. if you left the spawn location for any reason and someone else get there then you lose that specific spawn if they are after it.

[luciusslayer]

whoever was at the camp first has it. if you left the spawn location for any reason and someone else get there then you lose that specific spawn if they are after it.

We never left the camp once we were at the camp for around 3 hours straight, he just ran in there and sat down and we watched him kill the first respawn in that room

[indiscriminate_hater]

Don't worry once you finish leveling and start your raiding career people are much more mature about the game

[Swish]

Don't worry once you finish leveling and start your raiding career people are much more mature about the game

hehehe

[Pokesan]

i refer you to the case of Snaj vs Vaye

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201325

despite typing like a retard, OP has precedent on his side

[NegaStoat]

whoever was at the camp first has it. if you left the spawn location for any reason and someone else get there then you lose that specific spawn if they are after it.

More or less that was my understanding involving the server camp rules.

I show up, spawns are cleared. No players are in sight or remotely close to the location.
Over 10 minutes pass. I summon a pet in plain sight and wait.
All 3 spawns pop. Still no one around. I go for it.

No one on this board has ever played a game of "mother may I?" in that situation I'll bet. And I don't appreciate your saying I KS'd you and stole every frog in the area, OP. Lying as hard as you can about something in an effort to make yourself more right is supposed to end in grammer school, guy.

[Spyder73]

the guy psychotron you made buddies with earlier was training another group and telling some guy he was going to suck his dad off, not the best person to back you up

Lots going on in this sentence

[Ravager]

More or less that was my understanding involving the server camp rules.

I show up, spawns are cleared. No players are in sight or remotely close to the location.
Over 10 minutes pass. I summon a pet in plain sight and wait.
All 3 spawns pop. Still no one around. I go for it.

No one on this board has ever played a game of "mother may I?" in that situation I'll bet. And I don't appreciate your saying I KS'd you and stole every frog in the area, OP. Lying as hard as you can about something in an effort to make yourself more right is supposed to end in grammer school, guy.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211699

That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'. In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders cleared. You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it. You cannot hold multiple 'camps' if another group wishes to contest one that you are holding. The player holding multiple 'camps' retains the right to choose which 'camp' to give up.If you just went right in and took it, without consulting the people clearing the mobs, who clearly wanted to keep the camp, you are probably in the wrong. The correct and polite thing to do would be to ask if it's camped and give them the option to forfeit the camp or one of their other camps if they wanted to keep it. And if they wanted to keep it, then they'd have to move back to it and keep a presence. You cannot reasonably expect people to know that you are contesting the camp if you do not make your presence known. Nobody is a mind reader and only gnomes can see through walls. A little communication goes a long way.

[Swish]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211699

If you just went right in and took it, without consulting the people clearing the mobs, who clearly wanted to keep the camp, you are probably in the wrong. The correct and polite thing to do would be to ask if it's camped and give them the option to forfeit the camp or one of their other camps if they wanted to keep it. And if they wanted to keep it, then they'd have to move back to it and keep a presence. You cannot reasonably expect people to know that you are contesting the camp if you do not make your presence known. Nobody is a mind reader and only gnomes can see through walls. A little communication goes a long way.

yeh but i wanted da camp so lyk if they knoow i woz there den dey cun sey no... u get me?

[Phantasm]

I think the best thing to do when approaching a camp is train in and offer to drag their corpse afterward.

but really, mobs up, nobody around? i'll go for that 18 copper everytime! but like if he comes around while you are killing them, or afterward you could always, ya know, talk to one another and come to an understanding. in my experience people are pretty accommodating and friendly when you approach them with kindness and all the way spewing babble about iksar RP.

[Zorlon]

Does this mean I can take the Ice Giants when someone runs off between spawns to vendor? I'm not a legal scholar so perhaps I should get a list of good lawyers in-game to put on retainer.

[Whiterice]

And I don't appreciate your saying I KS'd you and stole every frog in the area

You should read that line out loud to yourself, or some friends. Makes you both sound so badass, sparring over video game frog spawns and all.

[Troxx]

If the spawns were down and the players were nearby, you moved in on their camp. IF you really wanted to dispute the camp with the group already there, they have the option to squat where (within their crawl zone) they prefer to camp. If they choose the area you wanted to camp a drop, tough titties.

Seems pretty obvious that the necro was in the wrong ... but that the OP was also not very helpful in how he approached the situation.

My experience with 99.9% of people I've met in the grouping/casual realm of p99 is that you start the process of conflict resolution politely, things tend to be handled well. If you start the conflict resolution process like a twat, even nice and reasonable people are likely to give you significant push-back - arguments and drama ensues.

Next time I'd bet a polite tell to explain the situation would have worked out in everyone's favor.

[luciusslayer]

More or less that was my understanding involving the server camp rules.

I show up, spawns are cleared. No players are in sight or remotely close to the location.
Over 10 minutes pass. I summon a pet in plain sight and wait.
All 3 spawns pop. Still no one around. I go for it.

No one on this board has ever played a game of "mother may I?" in that situation I'll bet. And I don't appreciate your saying I KS'd you and stole every frog in the area, OP. Lying as hard as you can about something in an effort to make yourself more right is supposed to end in grammer school, guy.

This guy is a major liar too we were right next to him during the first respawn and i started typing the message to him during the first mob then he proceeded to kill 2 more mobs in front of me, one of which I agroed, we were present at the camp for 3 hours straight

[luciusslayer]

If the spawns were down and the players were nearby, you moved in on their camp. IF you really wanted to dispute the camp with the group already there, they have the option to squat where (within their crawl zone) they prefer to camp. If they choose the area you wanted to camp a drop, tough titties.

Seems pretty obvious that the necro was in the wrong ... but that the OP was also not very helpful in how he approached the situation.

My experience with 99.9% of people I've met in the grouping/casual realm of p99 is that you start the process of conflict resolution politely, things tend to be handled well. If you start the conflict resolution process like a twat, even nice and reasonable people are likely to give you significant push-back - arguments and drama ensues.

Next time I'd bet a polite tell to explain the situation would have worked out in everyone's favor.
I felt like I was polite to him but then he continued to stay at the camp and ks us or kill our mobs so me and the person left the camp upset cause we can't out damage a 52 necro in our 30's and we petitioned him

[maerilith]

The real question is, how relevant is a 52 necro on an 6 year old emulated server of a 17 year old elf sim?

(cause you would think 17 years might have been long enough for that necro to reach 53, or maybe 52.4) because I think that would make things way more relevant.

[DMN]

Wouldn't the correct response hav ben here for you to simply say "hey, I'm just here for a quest drop off the nokta shaman. as long as you guys kep clearing the spawn spot and let me have any noktas that spawn I won't touch any of your other mobs." I get my item you guys get exp, and we be friends instead of enemies.

Then sing kumbaya , we are the children, winds of change or whatever sappy shit you are into.

[Swifty]

OP confirmed a drama starting hoe

[LostCause]

is it true you lost your pinky in taymoo?