Naming Policy

[Uberom]

This is sort of a spin off of Taxi Driver's posts in a previous thread regarding his ban. Apparently he was made to change his name, he fought it and ended up getting banned for insulting the staff. Obviously I'm missing details, but this is essentially what happened.

I think it is important to explain that it is not my intention to flame DEVS/GMS in this thread, unlike other threads that I have previously engaged in. I just want people's honest opinion. If you plan on flaming or trolling, just head back to Raren's thread. Thanks.

My question is: Why is there a naming policy?

For some names I would make exceptions. If you have a name that is openly offensive, for example one that contains the word "fuck" or something, then obviously it needs to be changed.

However, I don't see how a name like Taxi Driver is offensive? Why would a name like that be subject to the policy? It is my earnest opinion that a name change like this, trivial, takes something away from the community. I like to see clever names. It's almost a form of art.

If any of you can explain how that name is offensive in general, or offensive to you personally, please do so.

Even further, why enforce a naming policy on a private server? The DEVS don't make money from the population, so they don't have to cater to people's QQ offended meter. I've learned this through my own experience. Games like World of Warcraft have to enforce that kind of stuff because it all comes down to money, and probably legal aspects as well. (Terms of Service?) But why here? This population is filled with EQ addicted degenerates, myself included, and I think most of us give a fuck less if you have a clever, slightly racy name. In fact, I encourage it.

My personal experiences with Taxi were always extremely pleasant. Last summer, when I started on this server, I used to get ports from him ALL THE DAMN TIME. He was very active in the community. I actually had him on friends list. At the time, I was poor, but he always was grateful to receive any tip, no matter how small. I was also grateful that a druid would respond to my tells, knowing that his tip wouldn't be that great. I thought it was kind of funny having a druid named Taxi Driver porting you around Norrath. Very clever, kudos to him. For the record, I don't personally know Taxi. I am not a close EQ friend of his, or something along those lines. He just ported me enough to where I remember his name half a year later. For me, him being banned is a loss for the entire community.

Also, I have a personal experience with the naming policy:

I had a Rogue named Thieving Basterd. I thought it was pretty funny. Apparently my name was reported as being offensive. It is my belief that nobody was offended by my name, but rather offended at the fact I was using Pick Pockets in a group. For the moment, let's ignore that detail as its discussion would take the thread off track.

When the GM came to change my name, and I believe it was Rogean, he was very pleasant and patient. Kudos to him. I mentioned that my name was meant to be a first name / last name combo. Without the last name, my first name meant nothing. I asked if, because of this reason, I could just change my entire name. He agreed.

During our discussion, I asked why it was offensive and to whom? He didn't really have much of an answer, just that it had been reported by several people as being offensive. My main question to him was: How come IB can have "Basterds" in their guild name, but I can't have it as my last name? His response was something along the lines of "We haven't begun to enforce the naming policy on guilds."

.....right.

I'm not mad or anything, in fact I actually like my new Rogue's name better! Thanks, haters! But I do think its strange how a player named Thieving Basterd is offensive and therefore subject to name change, but a guild named Inglourious Basterds is not. And Taxi Driver? I'm lost.

:::SIDE NOTE:::

This goes out to the forum community. All you people who suck ass to the GMs need to stop. Your shit is weak. One minute your all friendly to the druid who's porting you around, but when he gets banned for something trivial, everyone jumps on the forums and slams him. This isn't an isolated incident, it happens daily. Quoting Uthgaard or Rogean in a thread, and then posting "YEA TAKE THAT" or something along those lines, doesn't make you part of the "in" crowd. You're still a fucking loser, and nobody likes you. All you kiddies need to get off the GM's dicks, stand on your own two feet, and speak your mind, not agree with theirs. Nobody wants to hear the peanut gallery chime in every time Uthgaard or Rogean makes a post.

You may be scared to abide by this suggestion, for fear that you will be banned or suspended. I can tell you from personal experience that this is very likely to happen. However, at least if you go down, you contributed something to the community. A voice, an idea. Not just a fucking silent dog cowering behind the GMs. They have 1000 people playing on their server, I doubt they need a bunch of fanboys and groupies to boost their ego.

In closing, just remember two things:
1. Community consists of players, not GMs.
2. Real *****s do real shit.

[Tumdumm]

not even gonna read this either

[Swishahouse]

2. Real *****s do real shit.




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[Uberom]

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[Tiggles]

tl;dr

[Zephys]

This is a free to play server with 0 RP, so I do have to admit that naming stuff should be nonexistant on the GM to do list.

[Estu]

It's not a matter of being offensive so much as it's a matter of taking people out of the game. One of the great things about EQ, at least to me, is the immersion. There are a lot of factors that contribute to it - the difficulty, the large zones and relative lack of fast travel, the actual landscapes and sound effects, and so on. If you see someone with a cheeky name that doesn't make sense in the context of the game, it takes you out of it a bit and can be irritating. I know not everyone feels this way - a lot of people don't care - but I believe that this is the spirit behind the naming policy. For the record, I'm not into MMO roleplaying either, at least not in the sense of talking like my character is supposed to talk or something (although I try to kill things that make sense for my faction).

After the naming policy was released, I started reporting people for having names that violated the policy when I ran across them. I don't think I reported Taxi Driver, but sure, it's the kind of name I would have reported. Why did I do this? Like I said, the names took me out of the game, and there was an actual policy in place, saying "these are the rules", so I figured that the GMs and administration were interested in having a server with game-appropriate names.

At first when I did this I would get tells back from Uthgaard saying something like "fixed" shortly after; the person's name was changed. Some time later, I got a tell from a GM (don't remember which) along the lines of "we don't really care about name violations except for the really obscene ones", so I stopped reporting those and just reported names like "dickbutt" or what have you. Then finally a couple days ago after a petition about a name like that, I got a tell from Uthgaard like "we really don't give a shit about these names, there are more important things to deal with". So fair enough, I've stopped reporting entirely. Granted, this might have just been because they were dealing with the DDOS madness, but fuck it, it's clearly a minor issue and if the GMs don't really care about it then it's not my place to spam them with petitions about it.

Now, am I obsessed with these names? Do they piss me off? Not really. The obscene ones kind of do, just because it's so stupid and tasteless to name a character "suxdick" or whatever it might be, like scrawling swear words into a desk at school. It's such a middle school mentality. The non-obscene ones take me out of the game somewhat, enough that when the naming policy was put up on the forums, I took the effort to report them when I saw them. But if the GMs are saying that they don't care about the naming policy after all, I'm fine with that. It doesn't matter that much one way or the other, honestly; it's kind of a minor issue from any perspective. The reason Taxi was banned was because (apparently) he insulted the GMs, not because of his name policy-violating name; that's just what triggered it. Whether or not we have an enforced name policy? not really a big deal.

[epicentre]

Personnally, I've used to be very frustrated when participing to various forums, inline games, guilds, allies and privately run communities.

Then I finally understood and accepted that such a community isn't a democracy, but is rather something like a monarchy. Once you get it, when you understand these rules and play according to it, you have a better online life.

My 2 cents, do whatever you want with it.

[RapidScotch]

This is a free to play server with 0 RP, so I do have to admit that naming stuff should be nonexistent on the GM to do list.

Yeah, if they quit running around answering everyone's petty petitions and camp disputes/arguments as soon as possible (hell it was a God send if you could get a response to a petition within 72 hours on live back in the day) we would have KUNARK much quicker!! :P

I say let the masses fend for themselves for awhile, anarchy is awesome. Usually people get blacklisted and ppl just won't associate with them if they pull some stupid ass stunts.

[Yak]

It is my understanding that as long as it's not an offensive name than you are fine. However, it is what the GM's determine is offensive since they own the server. This is rightly so as they are the owners. It's not about money but they want to have a good community in general. However, being that we allowed to cus and say woulds like "fuck" on the forums, I would imagine they would be adult about it. Again it's their server and I respect they have the final say. I can't speak about the Taxi Driver name as we are missing the entire story. However, I would love to hear it as I am sure it's more complicated then that.

[Estu]

Also, to maybe make a useful analogy, think about single player RPGs like the Final Fantasy series or Fallout or Morrowind or what have you. If you saw NPCs with cheeky names in those games you might get kind of irritated; you're trying to enjoy the world of the game, and these names break the fourth wall in a sense. It's like J.K. Rowling and her contrived character names, though she's not as bad an offender. The reasoning is similar for character names in MMORPGs.

[Uberom]

Some good responses so far, however, I'm almost positive the naming policy says nothing about "disturbing the game immersion of another player". If Taxi Driver broke any naming rule, it would be the one about trademarked products, since "Taxi Driver" is a Robert DeNiro movie. However, that would also call into question why IB's guild name hasn't been changed. Plus, a taxi driver is also an occupation, so an argument can be made that it has nothing to do with the movie.

[Slathar]

IB doesn't have to change their name because they have a developer in their guild.

[Estu]

Some good responses so far, however, I'm almost positive the naming policy says nothing about "disturbing the game immersion of another player". If Taxi Driver broke any naming rule, it would be the one about trademarked products, since "Taxi Driver" is a Robert DeNiro movie. However, that would also call into question why IB's guild name hasn't been changed. Plus, a taxi driver is also an occupation, so an argument can be made that it has nothing to do with the movie.

Quoting here from the policy itself:
"Character names in EverQuest should be thematically consistent with the high-fantasy environment of EverQuest."
Forbidden names:
"Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis)."
"Names where the combination of the first and last name forms a phrase or violate a previous rule (e.g. Crymea River, Bran Muffin, Story Thyme)."

Maybe you should read the policy carefully before claiming "Taxi Driver" doesn't violate it, bro.

[Kassel]

As per the naming policy.

Character names in EverQuest should be thematically consistent with the high-fantasy environment of EverQuest.

I guess that is the bottom line.

I would not be surprised if I lost my surname one day, would not bother me. I have been using the name "hassel" since 2001. EQ live would not let me spell it Hassle and the original intent was to have a name that meant "pain the ass" turns out every single person started calling me "theHoff" so i just went with it. I was Hassel in wow for years with no surname ability and i was constantly called Hoff in vent...oh well.

Can i get a astronomical brazier pick pls?

[Shannacore]

You just used "brew" in IRC and "bro" here. Estu, don't be one of thooooose guys.

[Yak]

While we are on the topic of names. Quest about Surnames, aka last names. Can they have a space? For example let's say my toon's first name is Joe. If I do the command at level 20 type /surname the Man. The would my toon be names Joe the Man or Joe theMan?

[Shannacore]

While we are on the topic of names. Quest about Surnames, aka last names. Can they have a space? For example let's say my toon's first name is Joe. If I do the command at level 20 type /surname the Man. The would my toon be names Joe the Man or Joe theMan?

Joe theMan. And I'm not sure it would capitalize like that.

[Asher]

While I agree with most of what you said, there is no excuse for being rude to the GMs. They provide a free, thankless service to all of us and we all appreciate what they do.

We follow their rules and from what I have seen in my limited time on this server they are pretty fair. They have an appeals process and if you aren't happy you can make an appeal. There is no excuse for being rude to a GM because you disagree with a ruling.

You can disagree and state your points all you want but the GMs still have the final say. If you don't like it you don't have to play on this server.


Asher

[quellren]

I used to get more hung up about names, I eventually realized that it was a lost cause, and no one with the power to change it really gives a shit.
I hate the erudites named for famous black people. It's not so much offensive, but it kills my immersion. I don't think its funny. Same for the idiots who name their characters after TV characters and add X's to bookend their name a la xsoandsox. This isn't an Xbox Live Halo game.

That said, I still report every character with an offensive name.
In the last week I've seen a:
Motherfucker
Deepanal
Cumsucker (can't remember the exact spelling)



Those have zero place in any videogame

[Estu]

You just used "brew" in IRC and "bro" here. Estu, don't be one of thooooose guys.

I use it sparingly, like a fine wine you only reserve for those special occasions.


While we are on the topic of names. Quest about Surnames, aka last names. Can they have a space? For example let's say my toon's first name is Joe. If I do the command at level 20 type /surname the Man. The would my toon be names Joe the Man or Joe theMan?

I wanted to do something along these lines for my character Kaam; I think I wanted something like Kaam the Warmonger. I petitioned, but a GM told me that that qualifies as a title, and titles are only given out on GM events. You can petition to get some special things done for your surname, like having a quotation mark put in for a Dark Elf and stuff like that, but I don't think you'd be able to get theMan to work without GM intervention (and they probably wouldn't do that for you).

[Lazortag]

I'd just like to point out that it's sometimes really unclear what kinds of names kill immersion and what don't. I'm okay with that standard, but I think it's a nebulous standard. For instance, there are NPC's named "Bait Masterson", "______ Deeppockets" (some halflings in Rivervale), "Ekim Nottap" (Mike Patton backwards), etc. I think these are amusing to see in moderation and so I don't cry myself to sleep when I see them. I guess seeing such names all the time could kill immersion. I'm pretty neutral on this whole issue and so I just err on the side of supporting the naming policy because it's classic.

[Yak]

Joe theMan. And I'm not sure it would capitalize like that.

Damn, then how come Bob is named "Bob the Legit"?

My personal take on names is that they are suppose to be creative. If people want RPG fine, if they want a funny creative name, that's great!

My personal taste is that RPG names get boring and funny names remind us not take take things so seriously.

[Estu]

how come Bob is named "Bob the Legit"?

I think a GM must have done that for him. Is he really banned? Rumors been circulating on IRC.

[Shannacore]

[QUOTE=Yak;196004]Damn, then how come Bob is named "Bob the Legit"?/QUOTE]

It shouldn't be. If he can be that why can't I be Tralina the Trollina, godammit.

[Shannacore]

QUOOOOOTE FAAAAAAAIL

[Ihealyou]

On another server I was Ihealyou Healsyou the Healer of You

WTB that name back :(

[boboo]

TLDR version of my "whining/crying" about GM abuse:

1. I point out how silly a GM looks on the forum because he posts a screenshot of himself on a raid with 10 rule-breaking names and on the same day posts about how hes such a hardass enforcer of naming rules.

2. His reply: "Oh yea? wait till i get online" He logs in, wipes my macros, my friend list, and lets me choose a rule-breaking name because most likely he just jizzed his pants getting back at me and he doesnt notice it.

3. A couple months later, after a long hiatus, i log in, forgetting that i had picked this stupid name to make a point, petition to see if i could get my old name back, explaining to Uthgaard 1 and 2 and telling him "The way my name was removed gave the GMing a corrupt cop flavor"

4. Apparently to Uthgaard this warrants banning an account that was played for like 6 months without any infractions, also known to have help test features such as the new chat and the pvp events.

inb4 TLDR

[boboo]

Taxi driver ^^^^

[Chanus]

TLDR version of my "whining/crying" about GM abuse:

Do you think that how much people care is determined by how many times you post this same story?

[boboo]

Do you think that how much people care is determined by how many times you post this same story?

I post it again because the guy says he doesnt know the details of the story, well the story is pretty simple and can be stated in such a brief and concise manner without going over all the little details.

[quellren]

2. His reply: "Oh yea? wait till i get online" He logs in, wipes my macros, my friend list, and lets me choose a rule-breaking name because most likely he just jizzed his pants getting back at me and he doesnt notice it.



Really, he wiped your client-side macros? You have bigger problems than getting your name changed. Homeskillet broke into your house and fucked with your computer. Damn. You need to change your locks, bud.

/sarcasm off

No one can wipe any of that but you. You just needed to change the .ini file to your new character name. This rant looks suspiciously like the style you used yesterday as 'Rango' or Taxi. Looking over the old threads from your initial meltdown, that exact advice was actually given to you way back when.
You may still be butthurt over losing your awesome cool name, but point 2 is a blatant lie.

[Cyrano]

GMs on this server have a tendency to be forgiving if you show actual remorse for the way you speak to them. Food for thought.

[Kassel]

OMG GM broke into my house as well and move my furniture around then hacked my computer. !!!

[Uberom]

lol @ the people who tag "nobody gives a fuck", yet they take the time to read thread and tag it up.

losers. i swear.

[boboo]

Really, he wiped your client-side macros? You have bigger problems than getting your name changed. Homeskillet broke into your house and fucked with your computer. Damn. You need to change your locks, bud.


It was explained to me weeks later, by another user, not the GM. Im not implying that he hacked my box, im saying he didnt even have the courtesy to tell me my stuff was about to get wiped and how to get it back.

I dont care what fanboys say, i have yet to see someone here make a solid dent in my case beside "Youre crying". The fact is, they banned an account that was played for months for trivial reasons.

[Kassel]

Taxi, i always thought you where a nice guy in game, but now you have gone bat shit crazy. You just accused a GM of wiping your macros then stated you knew he could not do it? WTF is wrong with you.

And just becouse you think being a cock to a GM is "trivial" does not mean it is. Imagine dealing with pricks like yourself all day every day for no $$. Omg a volunteer did not have the "courtesy" to give you a hanky and a reach around?? Every post you make here makes you look more and more like a dick.

[boboo]

Taxi, i always thought you where a nice guy in game, but now you have gone bat shit crazy. You just accused a GM of wiping your macros then stated you knew he could not do it? WTF is wrong with you.

And just becouse you think being a cock to a GM is "trivial" does not mean it is. Imagine dealing with pricks like yourself all day every day for no $$. Omg a volunteer did not have the "courtesy" to give you a hanky and a reach around?? Every post you make here makes you look more and more like a dick.

He did wipe my macros, are you being thick on purpose? Its not elementary school knowledge that you can mess with the ini files and that your macros are stored locally. Thats only a minor detail, the most important part is that the GM changed my name to grief me because i made him look like a fool on the forum and then Uthgaard banned me for explaining this to him.

They never had to deal with pricks such as myself because that was the only incident i can think about where a GM was involved (Uthgaard banning, 2mins exchange of tells). Like you said you liked me in game, and its probably true of most people i encountered. I was never a nuisance on the server, on the contrary. Now im a nuisance, cuz Uthgaard fucked my mom in the ass.

[yaaaflow]

why is there a naming policy? there was one in classic eq

why is it enforced unevenly? cause it was like that in classic too

they're just going for the proper classic experience yo

[Kassel]

How can he wipe your CLIENT side Macros?

[Yak]

Let's stay on topic guys, about the whole macro thing has nothing to do with this discussion. Just remember one word, karma.

[boboo]

How can he wipe your CLIENT side Macros?

I dont know the technicality, but when your name is changed, then probably the old macro files and friend list is not associated automatically to the new name the GM gives you. But again, thats only a minor detail and youre missing the point if your holding on to that little thing.

Again the major point to retain in my story is that a GM changed my name to grief me because i made him look like a fool on the forum and then Uthgaard banned me for explaining this to him in an exchange of tells that lasted something like 2 minutes.

[Kassel]

so he did not wipe your macro's =D you just dont know anything about computers. Well i guess we should just walk away with the knowledge that you should not talk shit to someone with power over you who is doing something for you for free. =D

[yaaaflow]

i insulted the gms on multiple occasions and ended up getting banned for it wah wah wah

[boboo]

so he did not wipe your macro's =D you just dont know anything about computers. Well i guess we should just walk away with the knowledge that you should not talk shit to someone with power over you who is doing something for you for free. =D

Oh yea? Well my daddy can beat your daddy

[Kassel]

Oh yea? Well my daddy can beat your daddy

Oh yea? well i can play on p99...

[Rangerous]

I dont know the technicality because I am a complete dicknose, but when your name is changed, then probably the old macro files and friend list is not associated automatically to the new name the GM gives you. But again, thats only a minor detail, so minor in fact, that the GM was probably too busy having to deal with a host of dicksnots like me to remember, and youre missing the point if your holding on to that little thing.

Again the major point to retain in my story is that a GM changed my name to grief me because i made him look like a fool on the forum, but then I wear tinfoil clothing because of my extreme paranoia and then Uthgaard banned me for being a complete ballnuzzler to him in an exchange of tells that lasted something like 2 minutes.

Play say wut?

[boboo]

Oh yea? well i can play on p99...

lawl youre ready to GM on p99 too with that childish attempt at button pushing, send that application in

[Massive Marc]

Trying to stay on topic...

Being a hard ass over a name policy is weak. Posters are saying that offensive names (such as Taxi Driver) are ruining their immersion. Cry some more. For fuck sakes, this is an emulated server. You didn't buy this game. Why the fuck do you care ?

Second, anyone that petitioned the name Taxi Driver, is the biggest fucking retard (Ya, I said it) I don't know him or particularly like him, but seriously... get off your high horse douche bags.

At the end of the day - as most have said - GM's/Dev's can do what they want.


MM
dontbanmebro

[Chanus]

You didn't buy this game. Why the fuck do you care ?

Yeah! If it's free, then why should anyone care about it?!

[Massive Marc]

Yeah! If it's free, then why should anyone care about it?!

Why do you care ?

Or do you just like posting stupid shit ?

[Gorgetrapper]

You didn't buy this game. Why the fuck do you care ?

Actually, some people actually do buy the game. Probably could have to do with terrible download speeds, or whatnot, but it does happen.

[mitic]

ban offensive names only imo

[mitic]

http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv203/miticeq/taxi.jpg

[boboo]

Im not trying to get unbanned btw, im just like that, when i see unjust shit, i like to open my mouth. Even if Uthgaard would send me a msg telling me "Allrite, i had a short fuse that day, you were right, here log again" I wouldnt do it, cuz I dont feel this kind of power tripping is not likely to happen again. Thx though =)

[Ronas]

Again the major point to retain in my story is that a GM changed my name to grief me because i made him look like a fool on the forum and then Uthgaard banned me for explaining this to him in an exchange of tells that lasted something like 2 minutes.

You mean 2 secs right.

Uthguaard says: "O so your taxi?"

You have been disconnected.

[Harrison]

It's not a matter of being offensive so much as it's a matter of taking people out of the game. One of the great things about EQ, at least to me, is the immersion. There are a lot of factors that contribute to it - the difficulty, the large zones and relative lack of fast travel, the actual landscapes and sound effects, and so on. If you see someone with a cheeky name that doesn't make sense in the context of the game, it takes you out of it a bit and can be irritating. I know not everyone feels this way - a lot of people don't care - but I believe that this is the spirit behind the naming policy. For the record, I'm not into MMO roleplaying either, at least not in the sense of talking like my character is supposed to talk or something (although I try to kill things that make sense for my faction).

After the naming policy was released, I started reporting people for having names that violated the policy when I ran across them. I don't think I reported Taxi Driver, but sure, it's the kind of name I would have reported. Why did I do this? Like I said, the names took me out of the game, and there was an actual policy in place, saying "these are the rules", so I figured that the GMs and administration were interested in having a server with game-appropriate names.

At first when I did this I would get tells back from Uthgaard saying something like "fixed" shortly after; the person's name was changed. Some time later, I got a tell from a GM (don't remember which) along the lines of "we don't really care about name violations except for the really obscene ones", so I stopped reporting those and just reported names like "dickbutt" or what have you. Then finally a couple days ago after a petition about a name like that, I got a tell from Uthgaard like "we really don't give a shit about these names, there are more important things to deal with". So fair enough, I've stopped reporting entirely. Granted, this might have just been because they were dealing with the DDOS madness, but fuck it, it's clearly a minor issue and if the GMs don't really care about it then it's not my place to spam them with petitions about it.

Now, am I obsessed with these names? Do they piss me off? Not really. The obscene ones kind of do, just because it's so stupid and tasteless to name a character "suxdick" or whatever it might be, like scrawling swear words into a desk at school. It's such a middle school mentality. The non-obscene ones take me out of the game somewhat, enough that when the naming policy was put up on the forums, I took the effort to report them when I saw them. But if the GMs are saying that they don't care about the naming policy after all, I'm fine with that. It doesn't matter that much one way or the other, honestly; it's kind of a minor issue from any perspective. The reason Taxi was banned was because (apparently) he insulted the GMs, not because of his name policy-violating name; that's just what triggered it. Whether or not we have an enforced name policy? not really a big deal.

I bet any amount of money you live in P-Town. If I'm wrong then I have a secondary bet to make that won't be wrong.

[Uthgaard]

We've been dealing with the ddosers to keep the server running. We've been dealing with the RMT that puts the entire server at risk of being shut down. We've been dealing with the vengeful dipshits warping mobs onto players because they're pissed that I found their plat dupe.

Put a little "think" with the "QQ". Meanwhile, all of the regular, day to day shit has been delayed, and guess what, that's more important too. If we weren't you wouldn't even have a server to bitch about the names on. Unless your name is akin to Fuckrocket McSquishmitten, I don't give a shit. And even then, I won't be giving a shit for a while.

[quellren]

/petition I wish to have my Necro's name changed to 'McSquishmitten' That shit's hilarious. :D

[Estu]

I bet any amount of money you live in P-Town. If I'm wrong then I have a secondary bet to make that won't be wrong.

I don't know what P-town is, so no.


We've been dealing with the ddosers to keep the server running. We've been dealing with the RMT that puts the entire server at risk of being shut down. We've been dealing with the vengeful dipshits warping mobs onto players because they're pissed that I found their plat dupe.

Put a little "think" with the "QQ". Meanwhile, all of the regular, day to day shit has been delayed, and guess what, that's more important too. If we weren't you wouldn't even have a server to bitch about the names on. Unless your name is akin to Fuckrocket McSquishmitten, I don't give a shit. And even then, I won't be giving a shit for a while.

Assuming this is directed at least somewhat to me. I wasn't QQing or bitching about the names, ever; the server has a policy that I thought I'd help enforce because I happen to agree with it. If you can't enforce it because you have more important petitions to attend to, that's absolutely your prerogative and you're doing the right thing. I understand that it's a low priority. You've helped out my characters multiple times in various situations and I respect your work - I don't see why the hostility.

[Harrison]

I don't know what P-town is, so no.

You don't live in MA, then :P

[Estu]

You don't live in MA, then :P

I do, but I'm pretty bad at the geography around here, TBH. I've been living in MA since I was four.

[Gorgetrapper]

Every Masshole knows what P-town is, and the reason to stay away from there.

[Alawen Everywhere]

It's not a matter of being offensive so much as it's a matter of taking people out of the game. One of the great things about EQ, at least to me, is the immersion. There are a lot of factors that contribute to it - the difficulty, the large zones and relative lack of fast travel, the actual landscapes and sound effects, and so on. If you see someone with a cheeky name that doesn't make sense in the context of the game, it takes you out of it a bit and can be irritating. I know not everyone feels this way - a lot of people don't care - but I believe that this is the spirit behind the naming policy. For the record, I'm not into MMO roleplaying either, at least not in the sense of talking like my character is supposed to talk or something (although I try to kill things that make sense for my faction).

After the naming policy was released, I started reporting people for having names that violated the policy when I ran across them. I don't think I reported Taxi Driver, but sure, it's the kind of name I would have reported. Why did I do this? Like I said, the names took me out of the game, and there was an actual policy in place, saying "these are the rules", so I figured that the GMs and administration were interested in having a server with game-appropriate names.

At first when I did this I would get tells back from Uthgaard saying something like "fixed" shortly after; the person's name was changed. Some time later, I got a tell from a GM (don't remember which) along the lines of "we don't really care about name violations except for the really obscene ones", so I stopped reporting those and just reported names like "dickbutt" or what have you. Then finally a couple days ago after a petition about a name like that, I got a tell from Uthgaard like "we really don't give a shit about these names, there are more important things to deal with". So fair enough, I've stopped reporting entirely. Granted, this might have just been because they were dealing with the DDOS madness, but fuck it, it's clearly a minor issue and if the GMs don't really care about it then it's not my place to spam them with petitions about it.

Now, am I obsessed with these names? Do they piss me off? Not really. The obscene ones kind of do, just because it's so stupid and tasteless to name a character "suxdick" or whatever it might be, like scrawling swear words into a desk at school. It's such a middle school mentality. The non-obscene ones take me out of the game somewhat, enough that when the naming policy was put up on the forums, I took the effort to report them when I saw them. But if the GMs are saying that they don't care about the naming policy after all, I'm fine with that. It doesn't matter that much one way or the other, honestly; it's kind of a minor issue from any perspective. The reason Taxi was banned was because (apparently) he insulted the GMs, not because of his name policy-violating name; that's just what triggered it. Whether or not we have an enforced name policy? not really a big deal.

Is having a giant log lodged up your ass part of the application requirement for Life Alert?

[Estu]

Is having a giant log lodged up your ass part of the application requirement for Life Alert?

Well, to be fair, our guild leader IS gay.

[Evilmog]

I somehow feel compelled to post something relevant.

Just going back to the original post here:

However, I don't see how a name like Taxi Driver is offensive? Why would a name like that be subject to the policy? It is my earnest opinion that a name change like this, trivial, takes something away from the community. I like to see clever names. It's almost a form of art.

The following types of names are considered unacceptable:

Common words and phrases that would not be found in the time, place and setting of EverQuest (e.g. Switchblade, Phaser, Toaster, Cannabis).

Find me a Taxi Driver in EQ and I bet the GMs will look into it when they finished with everything else important. Druids / Wizards don't count. Technically any Druid / wizard that offer 'Taxi' services should be banned, same with the ones claiming they're airlines.

Boats are Ok, Give people Cruises!!!

[Evilmog]

Oh, since I can't edit, I didn't bother reading pages 3-8, got boring.

[OngorDrakan]

This is just stupid. Especially the reporting. If the GM's see it fine, whatever. But it really takes you out of the game? QQ some more. You were really immersed in the game camping some leet quest mob for hours? You don't ever alt+tab out of the game? Riiight.

Crybabies the lot of ya.

[Uthgaard]

Boats are Ok, Give people Cruises!!!

motorboat, imo.

[Evilmog]

motorboat, imo.

My fiancee finds that offensive :mad:

[Cyrius]

What i am wondering about is, why he always calls me "GM" and not by my name, but calls Uthgaard by his name. Bad memory?

[Swishahouse]

Little bitch was too busy keeping my name in his mouth.




AND IM STILL...

[OngorDrakan]

My fiancee finds that offensive :mad:

You should probably motor boat her tits then.

[Estu]

Bad memory

This.

[Swishahouse]

Oh, I thought Cyrius was talking about someone else.

[Cyrius]

I was talking about mister Taxi Driver. I was the one nerfing him.

[Uberom]

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[Ihealyou]

I wante d to troll this thread but i cant concentrate enough to actually rad any of the posts

[karsten]

RAD

[Ihealyou]

i didnt take you for a hater karsten