Police Officers II

[Japan]

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Fucking pig animals murder a man for turning to look at them while holding a hose. Note that they admit to not having announced their presence in any way; they snuck up on him in the dead of night in their black outfits and blasted him to pieces with multiple shotgun and pistol wounds without provocation. It's closed casket for this guy.

Here you go: it happens to white people too. Support United States police and you support a fascist occupying force. Kill yourselves, pig bastards.

[Timzilla]

Oh fuck off. They shoot more bad guys than good guys by far.

[RapidScotch]

That's horrible that happened and I really feel for the family. The cops definitely should of at least hid around the corner, tried to talk the guy down if they thought it was a gun, not just roll up Rambo style and cap him.

However, he was drunk and they apparently said he pointed it at them, im sure they did think it was a gun, but still no reason to KILL anybody!

[vincin]

nice tags...

[mitic]

welcome in the land of the free, the brave, and lightheaded usage of firearms

[Swishahouse]

fuck the police

[mitic]

log in m8!

[Japan]

Oh fuck off. They shoot more bad guys than good guys by far.

Cower in fear of the brown boogeyman. You've never seen him personally, but there's no doubt he's ubiquitous. It's so black and white - he's a bad guy. It was on the local news.

The pigs pulling you over to ask if you're an American citizen, and searching you without probable cause, and enforcing laws that violate your rights (the ones you see every week) -- those are the good guys. You've only personally witnessed them behaving like thugs a few times, and that's a small price to pay to keep those scary brownskinned monsters they warned you about from raping and eating your children.

[Torqumada286]

fuck the police

If they look like this, then of course.

http://666kb.com/i/bpcj8hu6xg5b6ufgg.jpg

Torqumada

[purist]

Sick watermark, brah.

[purist]

I jack off to videos of cops getting their throats slit.

[Pico]

i too make blanket judgments towards a group of nearly a million people

[Timzilla]

Cower in fear of the brown boogeyman. You've never seen him personally, but there's no doubt he's ubiquitous. It's so black and white - he's a bad guy. It was on the local news.

The pigs pulling you over to ask if you're an American citizen, and searching you without probable cause, and enforcing laws that violate your rights (the ones you see every week) -- those are the good guys. You've only personally witnessed them behaving like thugs a few times, and that's a small price to pay to keep those scary brownskinned monsters they warned you about from raping and eating your children.

Waa fucking waa. You're either totally eaten up, or just plain full of shit. Either way, please buy a cap gun soon as you can and wave it at every police officer you pass. You'd make a good next tragedy.

[Misto]

Everyone saying fuck the police is a hypocrite. If you needed the police, you'd call them. Fuckin wannabe gangsters.

[SlankyLanky]

Everyone saying fuck the police is a hypocrite. If you needed the police, you'd call them. Fuckin wannabe gangsters.

some people try to handle their own problems without having cops get involved. thats not being a wannabe gangster, its being a intelligent human being.

[Harrison]

some people try to handle their own problems without having cops get involved. thats not being a wannabe gangster, its being a intelligent human being.

[Misto]

some people try to handle their own problems without having cops get involved. thats not being a wannabe gangster, its being a intelligent human being.

so if someone broke into ur house and stole all your shit, and u didn't know who it was, u wouldn't call the police.

genius

[purist]

Take it from Harrison, guys.

I mean, sure, he may be a fat slob with a receding hairline who is unable to satisfy his girlfriend (cheated on him with his bf, upon which he childishly posts her personal info on Livejournal); who fabricates military "combat" experience to impress people on the internet and then gets caught lying; and who gets the living shit beaten out of him in a bar for running his fat yap.

BUT, he always remembers to use "an" instead of "a."

[purist]

Sick burn, brah.

[Nedala]

Your ridiculous weaponlaw is the main problem....in most countries police isnt afraid of every idiot holding a gun.

[Harrison]

Take it from Harrison, guys.

I mean, sure, he may be a fat slob with a receding hairline who is unable to satisfy his girlfriend (cheated on him with his bf, upon which he childishly posts her personal info on Livejournal); who fabricates military "combat" experience to impress people on the internet and then gets caught lying; and who gets the living shit beaten out of him in a bar for running his fat yap.

BUT, he always remembers to use "an" instead of "a."

Yeah, a shaved head is a receding hairline lol

Please keep your hardon for me raging and ready to burst. It's fucking hilarious shit man.

P.S. my 39ft. dick is soft, please keep flaming.

[skulldudes]

so if someone broke into ur house and stole all your shit, and u didn't know who it was, u wouldn't call the police.

genius

hahaha. bad example, as the police won't really do shit for you in that situation :>

[Uccin]

hahaha. bad example, as the police won't really do shit for you in that situation :>

Yep, they're too busy throwing non violent drug users in prison so the privately owned prisons can make boatloads of cash. Or seizing your family's home, cars, and all other property because you smoked a joint and your neighbors called the cops on you.

Bottom line is, a lot of cops are dicks. A lot of cops are also pretty decent people. The big problem here is, the good cops never report the bad cops when they do something wrong, never testify against them in court, and that makes them just as bad.

You can try and justify it however you want, but police in the USA are above the law, and completely out of control. So yeah, fuck the police.

[Uccin]

Yep, they're too busy throwing non violent drug users in prison so the privately owned prisons can make boatloads of cash. Or seizing your family's home, cars, and all other property because your neighbors called the cops on you for smoking a joint, and you happened to have over an ounce of weed on you.

Bottom line is, a lot of cops are dicks. A lot of cops are also pretty decent people. The big problem here is, the good cops never report the bad cops when they do something wrong, never testify against them in court, and that makes them just as bad.

You can try and justify it however you want, but police in the USA are above the law, and completely out of control. So yeah, fuck the police.

[Uccin]

Well, I was trying to edit my post and failed. Is there no way to edit posts on this forum? Apparently the icon that looks like edit just quotes..why are there 2 buttons for quote?

[Misto]

i don't believe u can edit posts in rants and flames.

[Aba to the cab]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/us/10detain.html?_r=1

There are only two ways out when you're in the system, death and mental institution

[Japan]

Your ridiculous weaponlaw is the main problem....in most countries police isnt afraid of every idiot holding a gun.

if only we were less likely to defend ourselves from our powertripping gestapo! I'm sure they'd treat us so much better if we were even more helpless to their abuses.

[Rangerboy]

Its not just the police, this goes with everyone everywhere. There are good people and bad people....and thats just how it is. Im sure we can find some pricks at your job. Anyways, its too bad that dude had to die, but holding a sprayer as if it was a gun to the police probly isnt the smartest idea.

[uncle]

I remember when I was 17 and hated the cops because they gave me speeding tickets when busted me when I was breaking the law, but then at some point I grew up.

For the people that say the cops dont testify against fellows police officers. Do you call the police on your friends when they drink and drive, or maybe when the commit other crimes? Fuck no you dont. I wouldnt testify against any of my friends either. Dont be fucking stupid people stick together.

Not all cops are bad. Most of them do a really good job and are great individuals, they just have do deal with the scum of the earth all day long. I dont care who you are that stuff would be hard for any person to deal with. Its like that saying goes. You cant let a few bad apples ruin the bunch.

[Darthmuhh]

I remember when I was 17 and hated the cops because they gave me speeding tickets when busted me when I was breaking the law, but then at some point I grew up.

For the people that say the cops dont testify against fellows police officers. Do you call the police on your friends when they drink and drive, or maybe when the commit other crimes? Fuck no you dont. I wouldnt testify against any of my friends either. Dont be fucking stupid people stick together.

Not all cops are bad. Most of them do a really good job and are great individuals, they just have do deal with the scum of the earth all day long. I dont care who you are that stuff would be hard for any person to deal with. Its like that saying goes. You cant let a few bad apples ruin the bunch.

Psssh, I wouldnt be a cop, I would go to jail so fast for popping caps into bitches like Japan it would make my head spin:)

ps Dont like america? Get the fuck out.
pps Dont like america and dont live here? Fuck you.

[quido]

I'm not saying this is true for all of them, but your average cop/serviceman is an unbalanced authoritarian fucking nutjob looking for the opportunity to do something drastic. They are not careful or conscientious or considerate. And most of the time, they don't care.

[Scrooge]

Wasn't there a scene like this in Goodfellas?

[Harrison]

I'm not saying this is true for all of them, but your average cop/serviceman is an unbalanced authoritarian fucking nutjob looking for the opportunity to do something drastic. They are not careful or conscientious or considerate. And most of the time, they don't care.

TEENAGER DETECTED!

[Rangerboy]

@ Harrison. /agree. Police arent out to get you quido.

[Misto]

Half the people that hate the police in the thread are potheads that QQ about it being illegal. QQ

[Timzilla]

Half the people that hate the police in the thread are potheads that QQ about it being illegal. QQ

The other half have never had an opportunity to be brave.

[Swishahouse]

these motherfuckers busted my ass right outside of everest college! i was tryin to attend classes before my minimum wage job and after my minimum wage job and they scrolled up and popped trunk cuz of my do-rag and a lil bag of streebo! now they got me on 4 years papers for bein black. man fuck yall...

[Nedala]

if only we were less likely to defend ourselves from our powertripping gestapo! I'm sure they'd treat us so much better if we were even more helpless to their abuses.

Lol yeah thats why in the US more poeple get shot than enywhere else....

[Aba to the cab]

The metro police in my area do some pretty shady shit, such as vehicular man-slaughter because they're drinking and speeding on the job. Or showing up 30 minutes after a group of robbers shot up a neighborhood then failed to investigate the scene and some kid bled to death (the officers later tried to cover it up)

But I can't hate em, cause when you step out of the lower-middle class area into the thriving cultural center known as Broad Ripple the police don't fuck with you.

On 33rd and Washington which is a relatively poor neighborhood they'll jack your shit so quick if you got a lil alcohol on your breath or are looking suspicious, they'll pop 4-5 squad cars on you

But on 64th and College the heart of hipster city you can walk out of the bar there with an open container look over at a police officer and commit public urination without any repercussion, as the business's and community in that area pay the police to not fuck with their patrons and cause drama, as cracking down on public intox in the B-ripp area would slow business down 10 fold.

[Aba to the cab]

The reason there are so many bad cops out there is due to improper training, they'll take anyone who can pass the PT segment of their recruitment phase. They're normal, average, everyday people that are indoctrinated to be "reactionary" and are held less accountable if something goes wrong.

If the average police officer fucks up he isn't liable the department is, they settle a lawsuit and put the officer on suspension or transfer him out, he will never be fully accountable for any actions he does while on-duty which opens up the floodgates for several acts of corruption and an authoritative demeanor.

I think the recruitment process should be more exclusive and that each department should be required to have community liaisons to establish their own rulesets and regulations within each jurisdiction, with the ability to garnish wages, suspend, and remove officers that don't behave as expected thus allowing high levels of transparency within the dept and community in question.

[Aba to the cab]

Think of it this way, a majority of any force especially a small town force is composed of people who skid by in high school with a D/C average, who prior to being on the force never held any weight intellectually nor physically and now they're given full authority over the community in question. I knew police officers that were running with a 8th grade reading level, who had no training in race relations, who was so disconnected with the community in terms of current events it was painful listening to him.

Many officers and jail CO's were sub-par students with little to no understanding of ethics and government, who went straight into the marine corp because no other option was available. They picked up the job as being an officer of the law because it's a government position and it's Federal law to give veterans of any status preference over anyone else, which is odd because soldiers are some of the most reactionary people on the planet due to the nature of their job.

[Aba to the cab]

I'll leave you with this though:

"fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." [Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)]

[xshayla701]

The important parts:

The reason there are so many bad cops out there is due to improper training, they'll take anyone who can pass the PT segment of their recruitment phase. They're normal, average, everyday people that are indoctrinated to be "reactionary" and are held less accountable if something goes wrong.


Think of it this way, a majority of any force especially a small town force is composed of people who skid by in high school with a D/C average, who prior to being on the force never held any weight intellectually nor physically and now they're given full authority over the community in question.

trulyfe, although by my standards the "normal, average" person doesn't make C-D averages in HS. regardless, why isn't atleast a bachelors degree required?

[Aba to the cab]

The important parts:
trulyfe, although by my standards the "normal, average" person doesn't make C-D averages in HS. regardless, why isn't atleast a bachelors degree required?

They do give courses in Law enforcement, criminology, and homeland security at most colleges, but the people that major in those subjects don't apply for patrolman or traffic cop. They mostly go to work in crime labs, state offices, and or use the degree as leverage to apply for law school.

[Heartbeats]

Anyone who has seen the movie Cocaine Cowboys, they talk about bringing blow into Florida in the 1970's, and having cops actually transport the coke in squad cars. It's been awhile since I've seen it, but one of the guys who was overseeing transport into the country mentioned that he was a 20something kid making $50k/week, while the salary for a police officer in Florida at that time was $15k/year. Basically, being a cop was and still is a shit job that doesn't pay well enough. Because the pay sucks, especially given the line of work, where you could be putting your life on the line at any given moment, anyone who is qualified (i.e. intelligent, with a decent moral compass) would rather work somewhere else. So, the qualifications have to be lowered, and you attract a bunch of retarded scum who can't get a better job, and are more than willing to abuse their position of authority to get more than just their trash salary out of it. There's alot more to be said, but I have to go get my cookies out of the oven and go to this Christmas party, so I'll leave that for later.

[Aba to the cab]

At the least the credentials for applying to be a patrolman


Two-year degree from an accredited university
maintain a 3.0 GPA or higher during those two-years
1-year observational externship at a local jail as a C/O
completely free of misdemeanors and felonies including juvenile record
Ability to pass yearly classes involving race relations, ethics, and law
strenuous psychological testing by THREE third-party sources
Bi-monthly board reviews with 100% transparency


Upon hiring you must sign a contract for weekly urine screens testing for alcohol and drugs.

Another thing they should do is take away, take-home squad cars and those other bullshit benefits at the cost of taxpayers. City vehicles are city property not the officers personal 7-11 munchies cruiser, so they may only use the squad-car while on duty.

[Rangerboy]

BTW, in many states including mine (Minnesota), they require at least a 2 year degree to become a police officer. Those who have the two year degrees struggle to find jobs and rarley get one within the first year or two. It isnt the way they are trained, cuz I have a two year degree in Law enforcement and it was very good. Its just who the person is behind the power they hold. I would say 95% of police officers are good people, and 5% are mentally ill. AND it is that way in every job. Dont tell me you havent had an asshole employee at a hospital, Walmart..ect..

[Aba to the cab]

Anyone who has seen the movie Cocaine Cowboys, they talk about bringing blow into Florida in the 1970's, and having cops actually transport the coke in squad cars. It's been awhile since I've seen it, but one of the guys who was overseeing transport into the country mentioned that he was a 20something kid making $50k/week, while the salary for a police officer in Florida at that time was $15k/year. Basically, being a cop was and still is a shit job that doesn't pay well enough. Because the pay sucks, especially given the line of work, where you could be putting your life on the line at any given moment, anyone who is qualified (i.e. intelligent, with a decent moral compass) would rather work somewhere else. So, the qualifications have to be lowered, and you attract a bunch of retarded scum who can't get a better job, and are more than willing to abuse their position of authority to get more than just their trash salary out of it. There's alot more to be said, but I have to go get my cookies out of the oven and go to this Christmas party, so I'll leave that for later.

The B-ripple police department pays it's officers 125k a year, where Hasbinbad lives they are paid upwards of 200k a year... Plus they get to take their squad cars home and milk the taxpayers for free gas, and use their badge to get free food, discounts, free rent at upscale apartments etc.

Add all those benefits into their gross pay they're probably making 350k a year, that's more than Ph.D level engineers.

Which is why corruption is so high and cover-ups are common place, if you're getting $200,000 a year with free gas and free food with nothing more than a GED and a small military record you're set for life especially when you retire and milk in HUGE benefits. Most police officers in that bracket know if they were fired and retained the stigma of being a "bad cop" the best job they can get with those credentials is working summer construction for a whopping $11 p/h

[Swishahouse]

trulyfe, although by my standards the "normal, average" person doesn't make C-D averages in HS.



Oh this one fancy. I got three things to say to you:




Everest *****, Everest *****, EVEREST *****!!

[Rangerboy]

The B-ripple police department pays it's officers 125k a year, where Hasbinbad lives they are paid upwards of 200k a year... Plus they get to take their squad cars home and milk the taxpayers for free gas, and use their badge to get free food, discounts, free rent at upscale apartments etc.

Add all those benefits into their gross pay they're probably making 350k a year, that's more than Ph.D level engineers.

Which is why corruption is so high and cover-ups are common place, if you're getting $200,000 a year with free gas and free food with nothing more than a GED and a small military record you're set for life especially when you retire and milk in HUGE benefits. Most police officers in that bracket know if they were fired and retained the stigma of being a "bad cop" the best job they can get with those credentials is working summer construction for a whopping $11 p/h
100% bullshit aba. link me proof of this.

[Aba to the cab]

Dont tell me you havent had an asshole employee at a hospital, Walmart..ect..

True, but the asshole stockboy, or the asshole receptionist isn't pulling you over writing you $300 in tickets for touching the yellow line on the road, they aren't calling dogs to search your car, they aren't running up in your party attempting to arrest people.

They aren't throwing you in jail, ruining your life by enforcing the state's rules on you, they aren't profiling you because of your skin, your hair, your clothes, and use that as a means to harass you.

There is a big difference between an asshole who does nothing more than stack cheerios on a shelf, and an asshole who is given a gun and free reign to extort you.

[Rangerboy]

True, but the asshole stockboy, or the asshole receptionist isn't pulling you over writing you $300 in tickets for touching the yellow line on the road, they aren't calling dogs to search your car, they aren't running up in your party attempting to arrest people.

They aren't throwing you in jail, ruining your life by enforcing the state's rules on you, they aren't profiling you because of your skin, your hair, your clothes, and use that as a means to harass you.

There is a big difference between an asshole who does nothing more than stack cheerios on a shelf, and an asshole who is given a gun and free reign to extort you.

Once again...your talking about the 5% of the police officers at most. Most officers WILL pull you over if YOU did something stupid and against the law.

[Rangerboy]

Aba to the Cab. You must have had bad experience with police and I feel sorry for you if thats the case.

[Aba to the cab]

100% bullshit aba. link me proof of this.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/05/local/la-me-county-salaries-20101005

Just look at city data, it was also in the news.

Some of these officers and sheriff's are making 200k a year



Based on a 13 city salary comparison VPD:

1) is the highest paid

2) works the fewest hours to get the highest pay

3) Vallejo officers receive $129,632 in total compensation during the first year

[Rangerboy]

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/05/local/la-me-county-salaries-20101005

Just look at city data, it was also in the news.

Some of these officers and sheriff's are making 200k a year



Based on a 13 city salary comparison VPD:

1) is the highest paid

2) works the fewest hours to get the highest pay

3) Vallejo officers receive $129,632 in total compensation during the first year

In that article was city workers that include hospital staff and firefighters....do you hate them too? And by the looks of it, it was due to overtime pay (which is usually double the pay). So if they were making 50,000 a year and worked some heavy duty over time..that could raise some bucks.
By the looks of it, California is spending their money carlessly...it isnt the police officers. In Minnesota (which is one of the higher paying police departments in the U.S.) the average starting salary is 55,000

[Aba to the cab]

Once again...your talking about the 5% of the police officers at most. Most officers WILL pull you over if YOU did something stupid and against the law.

I linked it earlier

"fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." [Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)]"

They're pulling my over for doing something wrong not for the citizenry, they're doing it for the state. Their oath "To protect and serve" does not apply to you and I, it applies to the State's interests, their rules, their finances.

You ever wonder why the drinking age is 21? Why you can't buy tobacco until you're 18? Why you can't sit on your porch and have a beer without being arrested for public intoxication cause you are in "plain sight"?

These are federal and state laws that they can tag you with, to fill for-profit prisons, to extort you out of money as you plead to probation. The United States of America has the most populated prison population, some of the strictest social and property laws next to theocratic jihadist states.

You'll get a year in prison if you like the drink a little too much and decide to go barhopping and subsequently get stopped. You can be 14 and drunk off your ass in Sweden and the only threat is passing out in the snow.

the ONLY freedom you have in America is the freedom to bitch because sitting at home on the computer crying about "injustice" as a much better alternative for the state than actually taking up arms and rioting like it happens in France.

Here in America, you don't own your money, you don't own your land, you don't own your name, or your body... all of those things are controlled, and regulated by the state, they'll tell you how much to pay them, what you can or cannot put in your body, they'll make you draft yourself, subscribe to compulsory taxation and citizen upkeep and keep registered in social security.

Ain't no democracy here bro, it's a plutocracy with a constitution to keep you happy so you keep buying.

[Aba to the cab]

In that article was city workers that include hospital staff and firefighters....do you hate them too? And by the looks of it, it was due to overtime pay (which is usually double the pay). So if they were making 50,000 a year and worked some heavy duty over time..that could raise some bucks.
By the looks of it, California is spending their money carlessly...it isnt the police officers. In Minnesota (which is one of the higher paying police departments in the U.S.) the average starting salary is 55,000

Do I hate doctors... Sure. For them to sew my hand up with 5 stitches that's going to run me $3,728, I might as well staple that shit my self and put some neosporin on it. God forbid you have something life-threatening, be prepared to pay in the hundreds of thousands for treatment because the health care system revolves around the big insurance companies.

Can't pay the doctor because you're poor and don't have insurance? Be prepared to get litigated by their parent insurer and have everything you own taken away and be thrown in prison since hospitals can now criminally prosecute you for failure-to-pay.

[Rangerboy]

Well bud, im happy to live in America..and I dont like taxes nor does anyone else, but you got to pay them and follow the rules. If you have a problem with rules/laws and America...then please move to a place like Africa and live your life to the benefit of yourself.

[Aba to the cab]

As for firefighters... If you don't charter them out for the price they want, or if your community doesn't want to pay the outrageous property tax for their service, then next time your cooking goes awry be prepared to live in the street as no insurance company will insure your house UNLESS you pay the fire department gross sums of money to come and throw water on your house.

[vincin]

aba to the caba. stop bitchin about life and be happy. fag. lol

[Aba to the cab]

Well bud, im happy to live in America..and I dont like taxes nor does anyone else, but you got to pay them and follow the rules. If you have a problem with rules/laws and America...then please move to a place like Africa and live your life to the benefit of yourself.

That's the thing, you DON'T have to pay taxes. The IRS and Federal Reserve are not legitimate governmental entities, they are not supported by the constitution, they were not included with the founding fathers ideas because those entities are the exact reason they revolted in the first place.

Article I, Section 8 says congress can levy taxes to raise revenue for the government, but the IRS includes commerce regulating taxes which defeat the purpose of reasoning. You can't object to paying taxes, even though it's not illegal from a constitutional point the IRS will be quick to push prosecution under "tax evasion" which also defeats the purpose of the constitution.

As for the Federal Reserve, you have a governmental bank that inflates money beyond it's worth, that controls the private sector of society by enforcing specialized regulations and tax codes that are not present from any other entity. Essentially the Reserve is a stand-alone entity that can do what it wants, when it wants when it comes to commerce.

[Aba to the cab]

Also

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[Rangerboy]

lol ... /agree @Vincin

[purist]

If you have a problem with rules/laws and America...then please move to a place like Africa and live your life to the benefit of yourself.

That's funny, 'cause I reckon freedom of speech is a pretty fundamental rule/law in America, which Abacab seems to be in the process of exercising. Now, if you have a problem with that, then please take your own advice and move to a place like Iran or China where criticizing domestic policy makes you an enemy of the state and lands you in prison. You'd seem to be able to "live your life to the benefit of yourself" a lot happier there.

[quido]

@ Harrison. /agree. Police arent out to get you quido.

That's not what I'm saying. I think most cops want to to good and I appreciate that, I just think most of them also get a genuine high from their authority and consequently abuse it. Most of America has the belief that cops (amongst others) are beyond reproach; this is absurd. My stepbrother is a cop in a really scuzzy city (Muskegon, Michigan) and while he seems to be a really decent guy he has also told me some horror stories about cops crossing the line. It happens a lot more than you think, just usually those who fall victim to these asshole cops have no real path of recourse.

[Hurley]

Cops don't have nothing on Hobby and Uth... those *****s be no eye contact tough.


I bet they roll a mean 20 sided dice.

[Bodeanicus]

Oh fuck off. They shoot more bad guys than good guys by far.

It's all fun and games until your relative gets shot. And I sincerely hope they do.

[Darthmuhh]

Well bud, im happy to live in America..and I dont like taxes nor does anyone else, but you got to pay them and follow the rules. If you have a problem with rules/laws and America...then please move to a place like Africa and live your life to the benefit of yourself.

I agree. Move to another country and I ope you like their police force better. I'm so tired of cry baby snot nosed cunts who have never served their country but enjoy it's freedoms and yet talk shit about it like it's the worst of them all.

How many of you have ever lived outside of this country, and yes i expect some troll from a piece of shit third world country to chime in like they are american or they even know shit about america and flame bash it.

Most of my friends are liberal nerd geeks who have never done anything for the country yet bitch and bash it, where as I have lived and worked in such countries. Shit, visit the philippines and see what corupt police force is like, and you think our police officers will lower the smack down on you for a viloation? You dont have a fucking clue.

Thinks it's any better in the middle east? Fuck you, you know nothing. You live int he best country and only because of the liberal school system thats brain washed you to think your country sucks, you bought it.

And fuck you, you non americans who are jealous cause you live in a shit hole, it's not my fault, luck of the draw for where I was born, next time tell yer mother to keep her damn legs closed.

Get out of yer mom's basement and visit the philippines or equador, see what real poverty looks like and them maybe if you can pull yer self obsorbed head out of your ass you may be thankful to the men and women in the armed service who make your freedom possable, and maybe you will look at the old veteran and feel some respect for him or her....eh, trust me, i'm not holding my breath, having some liberal friends for 10 plus years and still I cant figure them out, some are the nicest people you ever want to meet, yet their thinking is so fucked up, lol, they will be the ones to get onto the cattle cars in the future....they will never see it comming till it's too late:D

Sorry for the run on and gramatical errors, but i am retarded when ti comes to such things and really dont care if i do run on sentences or mis spell words cause I am a buck tooth hill billy to ignorant to ever get a real job, so I had to join the military where everyone has just enough IQ to breath:confused:

[Darthmuhh]

It's all fun and games until your relative gets shot. And I sincerely hope they do.

Good, I hope your mother or sister are standing just past his to catch the slug as it passes through, that would make me happy also:)

[skulldudes]

complaining about anything you see as wrong in your country, its law or infastructure obviously makes you a jerk because OMG THERE ARE WAR ORPHANS MINING DIAMONDS IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES WHO DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY FREEDOMS

[Aba to the cab]

Stupid redneck moniker

You do realize this country was founded by a bunch of unpatriotic, butthurt, liberals that didn't do shit but write scathing remarks about His Majesty in some underground newspaper.

This country has a long history of criminalizing and stepping on the disadvantaged, it has a long history of bowing to the corporate and wealthy elite and leaving the "undesirables" to fight amongst themselves. I'm no socialist but at least I can recognize that state power does absolutely no good for the common citizen but does everything for itself.

[quido]

If there were actually some credible threats to America's security, a lot more people would probably enlist. I think a lot more people see through the bullshit now though and realize that being a member of the US military means you are a pawn in a sick twisted game of profit. There is no honor in this, despite what they want you to believe. In my opinion there hasn't been a credible threat to America's national security in a long time. We bring it on ourselves from the Arab world by supporting Israel. Israel is a bullshit unjust state, and were I a Palestinian or whatever, I'd be fucking pissed too. America thinks they can do whatever the hell they want without consequences.

I don't want to leave this country, I just want us to butt the fuck out and stop screwing people over, both internally and externally.

[purist]

I'm an acne-ridden 16-year-old Pinoy kid and I think I'm "enlightened" about world affairs 'cause I visited Grandma in Manila last summer

[Darthmuhh]

You do realize this country was founded by a bunch of unpatriotic, butthurt, liberals that didn't do shit but write scathing remarks about His Majesty in some underground newspaper.

This country has a long history of criminalizing and stepping on the disadvantaged, it has a long history of bowing to the corporate and wealthy elite and leaving the "undesirables" to fight amongst themselves. I'm no socialist but at least I can recognize that state power does absolutely no good for the common citizen but does everything for itself.

So you're saying that the founding fathers of the united states were liberals? Would you mind expounding on how they were liberla conpared to what a liberal in today? I would enjoy seeing how you compare the two.

[Aba to the cab]

So you're saying that the founding fathers of the united states were liberals? Would you mind expounding on how they were liberla conpared to what a liberal in today? I would enjoy seeing how you compare the two.

Liberal in terms of "libertine" as in following the thought process of Locke, Rousseau, De Sade, Hobbes, and Newton to some extent. The actual meaning of liberal reflects those things but in America liberal is just another word for democrat and "liberals" in that sense have nothing in common with libertines.

[Darthmuhh]

Ah hahaaha, for some reason I am almost willing to bet that you just described yourself more then myself. lol too rich.:p

[Hoggen]

Lol yeah thats why in the US more poeple get shot than enywhere else....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_rate#cite_note-68

Yeah it's Wikipediea. Yeah the US is ahead of any other Western nation. Yeah you have to depend on countries to accurately report how many people their government's murder each year.

But with over 3000 people killed this year in one Mexican city of 1.4 million ( granted lots were likely beheaded or dragged to death or something, and not shot), could you please not spout such anti-american crap without first knowing crap about the subject you're bloviating about? And maybe learn how to spell "anywhere?"

[Pico]

I linked it earlier

"fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." [Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)]"

They're pulling my over for doing something wrong not for the citizenry, they're doing it for the state. Their oath "To protect and serve" does not apply to you and I, it applies to the State's interests, their rules, their finances.

You ever wonder why the drinking age is 21? Why you can't buy tobacco until you're 18? Why you can't sit on your porch and have a beer without being arrested for public intoxication cause you are in "plain sight"?

These are federal and state laws that they can tag you with, to fill for-profit prisons, to extort you out of money as you plead to probation. The United States of America has the most populated prison population, some of the strictest social and property laws next to theocratic jihadist states.

You'll get a year in prison if you like the drink a little too much and decide to go barhopping and subsequently get stopped. You can be 14 and drunk off your ass in Sweden and the only threat is passing out in the snow.

the ONLY freedom you have in America is the freedom to bitch because sitting at home on the computer crying about "injustice" as a much better alternative for the state than actually taking up arms and rioting like it happens in France.

Here in America, you don't own your money, you don't own your land, you don't own your name, or your body... all of those things are controlled, and regulated by the state, they'll tell you how much to pay them, what you can or cannot put in your body, they'll make you draft yourself, subscribe to compulsory taxation and citizen upkeep and keep registered in social security.

Ain't no democracy here bro, it's a plutocracy with a constitution to keep you happy so you keep buying.


Do I hate doctors... Sure. For them to sew my hand up with 5 stitches that's going to run me $3,728, I might as well staple that shit my self and put some neosporin on it. God forbid you have something life-threatening, be prepared to pay in the hundreds of thousands for treatment because the health care system revolves around the big insurance companies.

Can't pay the doctor because you're poor and don't have insurance? Be prepared to get litigated by their parent insurer and have everything you own taken away and be thrown in prison since hospitals can now criminally prosecute you for failure-to-pay.

damn abacab, when'd you get so cool

[SlankyLanky]

damn abacab, when'd you get so cool

abacab was never uncool.

[Stibe]

Cops go to a call with a man who apparently has a gun. Man points said gun like object at cops. Man gets shot.

Makes sense.

I hope you get stabbed one day and a cop drives by instead of helping you.

[Stibe]

PS: If you dont fucking like it, move somewhere else.

[purist]

Again, why don't you move somewhere else? I mean, since you and Rangerboy seem so antithetic to the concept of free speech. Saudi Arabia or China sound right up your alley. I'm pretty sure they don't tolerate their citizens exercising free speech about their police there.

[bled12345]

lol dumbass.


Cops = good

Cops also = human beings, and people make mistakes.

this guy also sounds like a retard, I'm not shedding any tears for him. Want to not get shot by police? Don't hold things that resemble a firearm with 2 hands and point it at police while drunk..........

[bled12345]

Cops go to a call with a man who apparently has a gun. Man points said gun like object at cops. Man gets shot.

Makes sense.

I hope you get stabbed one day and a cop drives by instead of helping you.

Also, people like to throw stones at the police and judge them like they are all automatons bred in some robocop factory.

Too all the naysayers in this thread, if for some instance you were employed as a police officer (which most of you don't have the balls for anyways) And you responded to a firearm call... and the man appears to be holding a pistol with 2 hands and points it to you, what exactly would you have done?

You know what the real tragedy is? When honest hard working police officers who genuinely have an interest in making the community a better place to live get shot in the line of duty. That is hard to stomach, not some drunk redneck retard doing stupid shit and getting blasted.

[Aba to the cab]

Also, people like to throw stones at the police and judge them like they are all automatons bred in some robocop factory.

Too all the naysayers in this thread, if for some instance you were employed as a police officer (which most of you don't have the balls for anyways) And you responded to a firearm call... and the man appears to be holding a pistol with 2 hands and points it to you, what exactly would you have done?

You know what the real tragedy is? When honest hard working police officers who genuinely have an interest in making the community a better place to live get shot in the line of duty. That is hard to stomach, not some drunk redneck retard doing stupid shit and getting blasted.

Nothing to do with "balls" bro, I have a criminal record and have been on several anti-depressants through out my life, due to histrionic and narcissistic personalities. I would totally get in if the force didn't believe I'd go ape shit crazy and shoot people for fun.

[Peatree]

Dude! Mary Beth McDade is a hottie...besides that whats this all about anyhow?

[Rango]

Nothing to do with "balls" bro, I have a criminal record and have been on several anti-depressants through out my life, due to histrionic and narcissistic personalities. I would totally get in if the force didn't believe I'd go ape shit crazy and shoot people for fun.

You could always settle for pushing a man on a wheelchair off the chair and dragging him through the streets:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N9sL7gDZG0

[guineapig]

How long will it take people to realize that Japan just posts this shit because he has fun trolling the forums? You give him exactly the attention he craves every time.

[Dest]

lol dumbass.

Want to not get shot by police? Don't hold things that resemble a firearm with 2 hands and point it at police while drunk..........

What firearm does a water hose resemble?

[Massive Marc]

What firearm does a water hose resemble?

http://www.thegeekcouch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/garden-hose-gun.jpg

[Japan]

this guy also sounds like a retard, I'm not shedding any tears for him. Want to not get shot by police? Don't hold things that resemble a firearm with 2 hands and point it at police while drunk..........

He "sounds like a retard" for turning toward a source of noise when he realizes someone is sneaking up on him in the middle of the night? If a squad of black-clad assassins snuck up on you at 3am you might react rather reflexively as well. This could happen to you.

[Harrison]

He "sounds like a retard" for turning toward a source of noise when he realizes someone is sneaking up on him in the middle of the night? If a squad of black-clad assassins snuck up on you at 3am you might react rather reflexively as well. This could happen to you.

What was he going to do? Spray the mysterious sound to death? lmfao

Morons...

[Japan]

What was he going to do? Spray the mysterious sound to death? lmfao

Morons...

I think you're taking the pigs' story that he pointed the hose at them a little too literally. More likely he turned to face them, hose in hand and moving erratically because he was fucking surprised to see a gang of men with shotguns, when he heard their jackboots clicking up the street.

[mimixownzall]

Your ridiculous weaponlaw is the main problem....in most countries police isnt afraid of every idiot holding a gun.


Yes, because no one should be afraid of an idiot holding a gun... wha?

[mimixownzall]

Yep, they're too busy throwing non violent drug users in prison so the privately owned prisons can make boatloads of cash. Or seizing your family's home, cars, and all other property because you smoked a joint and your neighbors called the cops on you.

Bottom line is, a lot of cops are dicks. A lot of cops are also pretty decent people. The big problem here is, the good cops never report the bad cops when they do something wrong, never testify against them in court, and that makes them just as bad.

You can try and justify it however you want, but police in the USA are above the law, and completely out of control. So yeah, fuck the police.

Sounds like they are enforcing the law and the law itself is what you have a problem with. Maybe you should be addressing the laws themselves?

[Salty]

What firearm does a water hose resemble?

oh hai

[Salty]

http://poopspant.com/eq/dest.png

[mimixownzall]

trulyfe, although by my standards the "normal, average" person doesn't make C-D averages in HS. regardless, why isn't atleast a bachelors degree required?

The problem is the 'small town' cops. The cops here make less than 9 dollars an hour. You can't realistically expect someone to go through years of college to get paid 8.65 and hour. You pay a guy less than 9 dollars an hour, you are going to get less than 9 dollars an hour of quality. Most people's bad experiences with law enforcement stem from dealing with these pinheads. I am in law enforcement and the small town dipshits irritate me. They, for the most part, are turds who suffer from nepoleon syndrome. They were too stupid to make it in a real department, so they join these little departments and they are somebody.

I can understand why someone would deal with these people and have a negative outlook on cops as a whole; the same way one might have a negative outlook on women due to a couple of bad relationships.

[mimixownzall]

We bring it on ourselves from the Arab world by supporting Israel. Israel is a bullshit unjust state, and were I a Palestinian or whatever, I'd be fucking pissed too. America

What..
The...
Fuck...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

What the fuck do you smoke?

[Lucrio40]

Little different, Guy argues with the cops for a couple minutes, he's armed. As soon as he throws down the gun, the cops mow him down. So god damn trigger happy they even shot their own dog.

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[quido]

What..
The...
Fuck...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

What the fuck do you smoke?

Why don't you tell me what is wrong with what I said. If you actually had some perspective from history regarding how Israel was established, you'd probably agree.

[boboo]

Why don't you tell me what is wrong with what I said. If you actually had some perspective from history regarding how Israel was established, you'd probably agree.

One thing ive learned through the years, is that you cannot make people change opinions if that opinion is what the guy wants to beleive and everything is wrapped around that. The amount of facts you can throw at the person to disprove his worldview is irrelevant if that is not what he wants to beleive

For example, im not sure you could reason with Dick Cheney in 1984 that Nelson Mandela was not a terrorist (something he claimed) because thats what he wants to beleive and wants other people to beleive.

Saying that some right-wing jews are as racist against arabs as nazis were (Take the jewish settler slogan "One bullet, one arab") and put them in ghettos just like the nazis did to jews in germany and providing information proving that assertation will only work with people that do not want, as a premise, to beleive that arabs are sub-humans deserving such treatment and deserve to suffer and die a horrible death just because they are arabs.

[Stibe]

Little different, Guy argues with the cops for a couple minutes, he's armed. As soon as he throws down the gun, the cops mow him down. So god damn trigger happy they even shot their own dog.

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It was suicide by cop. You dont make that quick of a movement with a gun in your hand and not expect an officer to fire on you.

[nosebleed]

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[purist]

Sure, his dogs were shot dead for no reason and his children likely traumatized for life, but the pigs found a small pipe with some resin in it and 1-2 grams of marijuana!

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[Lucrio40]

Sure, his dogs were shot dead for no reason and his children likely traumatized for life, but the pigs found a small pipe with some resin in it and 1-2 grams of marijuana!

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They sure love to shot dogs.

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[Lucrio40]

It was suicide by cop. You dont make that quick of a movement with a gun in your hand and not expect an officer to fire on you.

Oh I'm sorry I thought we were dealing with human beings and not wild animals "No Sudden Movements"

[Harrison]

Hey guys, all black people must barge into their workplace and shoot up the place because it's happened before in the past.

That's how it works, right? If it's happened before it must always happen?

*facepalm*

[Japan]

Don't worry guys the last page of videos were all isolated incidents, bless those police for doing their extremely difficult job

[Harrison]

Don't worry guys the last page of videos were all isolated incidents, bless those police for doing their extremely difficult job

Are you 17? Did they take away your booze one night? Lol grow up.

[Japan]

No, I'm not 17. And I have suffered far worse than theft of property from pig animals.

I'm gonna have to get pretty fucking old to "grow up" enough that I accept the pigs' apparent right to stalk me without cause and shoot me repeatedly in the face. Older than I'm likely to live in this violent police state.

Fuck the pigs and fuck you too, collaborator.

[Abysis]

I believe Schopenhauer would say there is no such thing as free will.

"A definite action inevitably results when a particular motive influences a person's given, unchangeable character."

[Harrison]

No, I'm not 17. And I have suffered far worse than theft of property from pig animals.

I'm gonna have to get pretty fucking old to "grow up" enough that I accept the pigs' apparent right to stalk me without cause and shoot me repeatedly in the face. Older than I'm likely to live in this violent police state.

Fuck the pigs and fuck you too, collaborator.

Seek help, psychopath.

[Lill-Leif]

"A definite action inevitably results when a particular motive influences a person's given, unchangeable character."

Character and motive IS free will. The will is not free if you should take action against your character without a motive.