Tubban caught online a day prior to the MQ ban

[Aba to the cab]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=190290&postcount=43

This post was from a 12-12-2010 screenshot involving an Innoruuk kill which Tubban was awarded a piece of god loot.

After the MQ incident, Dark Ascension claims that Tubban hasn't been online in months, much less been a frequent member of their raid force. Which contradicts the screenshot showing him actively running around and being awarded loot.

how can someone who hasn't been on in months, and hasn't been a "full member" in months be on a raid a day before he was caught with MQ, and gaining loot from Innoruuk's table which is done via loot council? There were several clerics there, several could have used the 7 wisdom, but it was awarded to Tubban? The same person who hasn't been active in months?

Y'all are pulling some shady shit, some revisionist shit, some down right political spin.

http://i51.tinypic.com/23utnx5.jpg

[virtue64]

n1

[Atennu]

Clearly it was awarded to him because the account is in the officers hands. We'll soon see the loot being sold by Bob; then that plat will add stock to durison's p99bank.

Nice find.

[Massive Marc]

Fuck guy, you keep my shitty work days half decent.

[Shannacore]

Daaaaayum

[Salty]

abcrab

[Aba to the cab]

Sup Salty

[Banditfist]

Looks photoshopped to me. Look at the pixiles.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!! So it was really a DA officer on the account that was running MQ? Nice!

[Aba to the cab]

Looks photoshopped to me. Look at the pixiles.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!! So it was really a DA officer on the account that was running MQ? Nice!

Truth.

They said Tubban hasn't been online in awhile, then when proven otherwise they said it wasn't him cause he was acting "shady" begging for plat, acting like a douche.

If this was the case, why did DA let him heal on a Innoruuk encounter, much less loot Innoruuk.

[Sadface]

Does any DA not cheat ?

[Sadface]

THAT is the question

[Tudana]

Sherlock_Abacab is going to bust this case wide open

[xshayla701]

Does any DA not cheat ?

oddly worded question, but no, not all of DA cheats

[Winobot]

Somebody shit the bed...

[jeffd]

on the next episode of "p99 matters"

[Hasbinbad]

The Young And The Raidless

[OngorDrakan]

I just emptied my poo sock. It smelt stanky.

[spok]

Ugh, can someone else get banned? The D and the A keys on my keyboard are going baDd. See what I meAn?

[SlankyLanky]

ima buy you a drink aba.

[Origin]

A+ work Abacab!

[korrowan]

Nothing will come out of this..

[bluejam]

I lol'ed.

[guineapig]

Pretty sure he also won an Aegis of the Wind last month in Sky:

http://www.darkascensionguild.com/

[guineapig]

Clearly it was awarded to him because the account is in the officers hands. We'll soon see the loot being sold by Bob; then that plat will add stock to durison's p99bank.

Nice find.

These items are no drop though...

[Omnimorph]

Winobot wins this thread for having karl pilkington as his avatar.

[Lelroni]

http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4191036/Shit-just-got-real-mofo.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Screaming-Spongebob

[Kassel]

Not a single DA post yet?? how odd.

[Zereh]

oddly worded question, but no, not all of DA cheats

obv ily

[Pheer]

Not a single DA post yet?? how odd.

theyre having a guild meeting to decide as a whole which propaganda techniques to employ

[spok]

theyre having a guild meeting to decide as a whole which propaganda techniques to employ

Laff, what propaganda do you speak of? I just see people apping and staying in DA because the guild does a good job and has a good community. Does something like that need propaganda and lies to build a stronger core?

No need to answer - that is a big NO.

/who "dark ascension" all next time you are online. Ya think that many people who are dedicated to pixels are really plotting and planning to manipulate and create facades?

I think for the most part they draw attention because of numbers. People want to hit end-game content with a fun guild and that is what they provide.

You call it zerging, I call it a popularity contest that DA won. It's always the ugly girl with 2 ugly friends that gets mad at the large group of hot chicks. Sure, with hot chicks some bad shit happens within the circle, but they get weeded out (tubban).

QQ some more bout it. They are a good guild.

[Otto]

I just see people apping and staying in DA because the guild does a good job and has a good community.

QQ some more bout it. They are a good guild.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


*Breathe*

Whew. Thanks, I needed that.

[Harrison]

Lol man, I agree wholeheartedly. That was worth a good belly laugh.

[Otto]

Ugh, can someone else get banned? The D and the A keys on my keyboard are going baDd. See what I meAn?

No.

[spok]

No.

There are others that have been banned recently. Just seems like a big bullseye hits DA when they miss the toilet sometimes. Hell, I used to get tipsy and was lucky to even hit the toilet. DA does a pretty good job considering their numbers. A few bad apples - oh well.

[Shannacore]

lol

[Azazel]

Just seems like a big bullseye hits DA when they miss the toilet sometimes. Hell, I used to get tipsy and was lucky to even hit the toilet.

just because you used to be an alcoholic and pooped yourself on a regular basis does not mean DA isnt a bunch of cheating sumbags.

[Aba to the cab]

A few bad apples - oh well.

Dark Ascension is P99 communism plain and simple. If I invite hundreds of people and promise them "good times, good friends, and good loot" it always looks good, until there are 389 people in plane of fear under a DA tag and 114 of those need that druid bracer.

You can say "Oh there is just a few bad apples" but when you're firing off invites at the rate you can do a /who soldungb, you must question if you're a guild of quality and integrity, or a guild of quantity and welfare.

You'll continue to get flak because of this reason, simply because you're a giant bloated entity that cannot and will not stop corruption within any echelon of rank, as it is near an impossible task without major restructuring. The other issue is when you're called out on it you become defensive and "purge" only after your reputation has been tarnished, and you begin to play propaganda patty cake, pointing fingers trying to find a greater enemy to absolve yourselves of any mishaps and errors. In essence, you're communists.

Congrats and let's welcome the new guild

<Soviet Ascension>


http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4405591/Dark-ascension-Recruiting-all-but-the-proletariat-IB.jpg?imageSize=Large&generatorName=Soviet-Pertamax

[anthony210]

abacab for server GM

[Tiggles]

Nothing but Good would come from GM Abacab

[Aba to the cab]

If elected your server GM, I will purge any communist guilds in a form of pixelated-McCarthyism

[Skope]

If elected your server GM, I will purge any communist guilds in a form of pixelated-McCarthyism

now type it in caps lock as if you were shouting at us.

[Aba to the cab]

I don't believe in bans, I think everyone should be able to play but I wouldn't absolve people... I'd rather just disband the guild, remove the leadership and block any attempts at reforming another guild. Durison and crew can still play the box, but they totally won't be able to raid under their banner, nor create a new puppet guild.

I would also stop poopsocking by flushing the zone out every 10 minutes with #aggrozone

[spok]

Abacab: laff - really, laff

I think they will be able to handle 50-80 active members like they have been. Beyond that yeah - you may be right if those numbers were accurate ;-)

I will not be surprised when kunark does roll out and DA numbers are stronger than ever while they still maintain a stronghold on major raid targets.

Most likely players like Tubban will be eliminated and other guilds will be experiencing what DA has experienced.

The one common problem I find with playing EQ from server to server which I am positive other players have made the mistake of - logging into p99 WITH MQ2 on then promptly logging off. Other servers allow it which screws ya up if ya forget to turn it off when on p99.

I can gaurantee that some have chosen to leave it on because they are only going to EC or possibly they logged out in lguk the day before and they are online to check the MOTD and say hi. Its a matter of making that decision to turn it off or log out.

Some make the wrong decision.

No guild leader will ever control ever players decision making in a game of pixels. IB, Divinity, TMO, DW and other guilds are all subject to that same issue - DA was made an example of.

I would like to see other guilds outed - it just appears that DA is the target. I felt they were an honest high quality guild while I played with them and maintain that thinking.

[spok]

Can players donate to the server and get 5 charges of #aggrozone ??

[Harrison]

I would like to see other guilds outed - it just appears that DA is the target. I felt they were an honest high quality guild while I played with them and maintain that thinking.

l
o
l

How long have you been around? A month?

You must have some thick blinders on if you believe the shit you're spewing.

[Rogean]

Some of your ideas have seriously been considered Abacab, and trust me.. I'd love no more than to #aggrozone random people. Alas, we keep ourselves to a professional standard here.

[karsten]

spok i want some of what you are smoking

[spok]

About 8 months maybe more? I never created a forum account under my player name spok until a month ago.

Why, you think I don't have any history on this server?

Does that give me some 'cred' now? FFS..

[Aba to the cab]

Boyz N'Tha Hood never had an issue with it's membership

When I led that crew I was straight forward and honest with other guilds, if you see me in your zone you better duck, cause Abacab is crazy as fuck. If I was going to steal your mob or train you, I let you know well in advance.

The thing with DA is it's not honest with it's intentions, it's not honest to it's roster who are clueless about the whole situation and it only exacerbates the drama as they flood into the forum white-knighting for some known but murky grey reason.

I laid it out before, if you want to settle this drama there needs to be a 1v1 with the leadership of DA and IB they need to have a representative fight for their right to exist, the loser should just pack up shop, delete their toon and start over. Which ever side loses the leadership forfeits their right to that character and forfeits their guild leadership role, the players in that respective guild are free to pursue other interests and will only lack a tag at this point.

Let's be men about this

All to the thunderdome

[Aba to the cab]

Some of your ideas have seriously been considered Abacab, and trust me.. I'd love no more than to #aggrozone random people. Alas, we keep ourselves to a professional standard here.

You know what you need to do...

Unban, and go have a beer, because I can totally settle this, because I'm the motherfucking equilizer

[spok]

Hell maybe I have it all wrong and the DA officers along with a few of their players get together frequently to conspire and use hax.

It was never mentioned in voice chat, never posted on a forum (I should know, I searched the entire guild forum DB) or anything of that sort.

I logged in, we hit targets, switched people watching targets (including myself) and did our thing. Same went for IB although I never watched a target for them while I was a recruit.

[spok]

I laid it out before, if you want to settle this drama there needs to be a 1v1 with the leadership of DA and IB they need to have a representative fight for their right to exist, the loser should just pack up shop, delete their toon and start over. Which ever side loses the leadership forfeits their right to that character and forfeits their guild leadership role, the players in that respective guild are free to pursue other interests and will only lack a tag at this point.

Let's be men about this

All to the thunderdome

^ THIS

[spok]

Same went for IB although I never watched a target for them while I was a recruit.

That meaning I may have been oblivious to them as well. Not everyone knows the inner workings unless evidence is produced. Til then, it is all circumstantial.

I think these players act and continue to act independently. Maybe that makes me naive.

[Aba to the cab]

Hell maybe I have it all wrong and the DA officers along with a few of their players get together frequently to conspire and use hax.

It was never mentioned in voice chat, never posted on a forum (I should know, I searched the entire guild forum DB) or anything of that sort.

I logged in, we hit targets, switched people watching targets (including myself) and did our thing. Same went for IB although I never watched a target for them while I was a recruit.

You're missing the point.

No one cares if you all sit around on MSN passing pre-compiles of MQ2, no one cares if you plot major exploits to gun for CT.

Everyone cares about your accountability, DA has never owed up to anything, they simply purged the member and swept the issue under the rug. They never went to Div/IB/TMO etc. and said "Sorry members we're cheating, have a free Nagafen" and bow out for a week by choice. No. The GM's had to pressure you into doing that.

I think the best solution for DA's PR department would be a public disclosure and a proven plan to restructure their leadership and recruitment process, and put more transparency on the issue. DA just needs to have a seat Chris Hansen style and comb out the roster, but they're unwilling to do as such which is causing the most animosity from your rivals.

The sheer fact:

You're taking no steps into rectifying the situation, you're only trolling, an flinging allegations. Start with a solution and work backwards and be professional for a change instead of trying to play guild-warfare all the time.

Diplomacy bro, use it.

[spok]

Fair abacab, fair. Maybe they will consider that or have taken action on that. Would like to see what they do. They are still under suspension so we'll see how they roll out of the gate this next week.

[Cyrano]

The best part of this is that the two people attacking and defending DA the most aren't in DA or any of their rival guilds.

[Kruel]

yea think IB and DA are pretty done with it. At least the quality players.

[Aba to the cab]

The best part of this is that the two people attacking and defending DA the most aren't in DA or any of their rival guilds.

The best part of your response, is DA/IB drama overflows these forums and you pretend like no one else if affected.

Silly Cyrano

[Rangerboy]

Can we just come to conclusion and say they are cheaters and end these threads about DA?

[spok]

Can we just come to conclusion and say there are going to be cheaters in EQ cheaters and end these threads about DA?

Fixd.

[spok]

Fixd.

hah i need to even fix my own fix. Time go get off the computer.

[Cyrano]

No you're silly!

[Ronas]

Surprised you care so much to go this far. But that post you had as the theme that tubb being around isnt something new. I believe we all picked that up on their recuiltment area on p99, just couldnt be fucked enough to look into it to your extent aba. You need to get a life off the forum and on everquest server or something.

And i say it again, who the fuck are you? i dont see you in game for over 5-6 months.

[Aba to the cab]

Surprised you care so much to go this far. But that post you had as the theme that tubb being around isnt something new. I believe we all picked that up on their recuiltment area on p99, just couldnt be fucked enough to look into it to your extent aba. You need to get a life off the forum and on everquest server or something.

And i say it again, who the fuck are you? i dont see you in game for over 5-6 months.


I'm always online in some form, I'm just quick to get a ban so my playtime is always less than 30 minutes. In reality I probably play the server for 30 minutes a week as I spend most of my day on IRC.

[Arkis]

Hahah so I was bored and came to check up on P99 and see what was up.

Read this thread. Good shit Abacab. Made my night.

[Tiggles]

You know what you need to do...

Unban, and go have a beer, because I can totally settle this, because I'm the motherfucking equilizer

Rogean, Do this its for the greater good. Unleash the Beast

[Bodeanicus]

I'm always online in some form, I'm just quick to get a ban so my playtime is always less than 30 minutes. In reality I probably play the server for 30 minutes a week as I spend most of my day on IRC.

Not having any real friends is a very sad thing. But that's what happens when you're a sociopath. It might have something to do with nobody likes a wigga. It's embarrassing, bro.

[xshayla701]

nobody likes a wigga.

True Life: I'm a Wigga

[Bodeanicus]

True Life: I'm a Wigga

I'm sorry.

[RapidScotch]

True Life: I'm a Wigga

*hugs* it's all gonna be oooookayyyy

[mitic]

Does that give me some 'cred' now? FFS..

iam sorry but, no.

[Swishahouse]

True Life: I'm a Wigga

obv~

[Aba to the cab]

Not having any real friends is a very sad thing. But that's what happens when you're a sociopath. It might have something to do with nobody likes a wigga. It's embarrassing, bro.

You say sociopath like it's a valid argument, spending 10 minutes a day doing nothing but running a train here or there is less anti-social than spending all day camping lguk, if anything I'm doing these people a service by forcing them to /q and go outside.

But ya know, obviously the guy colliding pixels with pixels, and talking mad shit on a forum is on the same mental deficiency as a rapist or a disgruntled worker in terms of anti-social behavior. You should take a step back and learn the word and it's connotations because you're way off mark in DSM-V'ing my modus operandi

[Harrison]

I'd be like him if I were that fucking ugly at his age too.

[Hollee]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=190290&postcount=43

This post was from a 12-12-2010 screenshot involving an Innoruuk kill which Tubban was awarded a piece of god loot.

After the MQ incident, Dark Ascension claims that Tubban hasn't been online in months, much less been a frequent member of their raid force. Which contradicts the screenshot showing him actively running around and being awarded loot.

how can someone who hasn't been on in months, and hasn't been a "full member" in months be on a raid a day before he was caught with MQ, and gaining loot from Innoruuk's table which is done via loot council? There were several clerics there, several could have used the 7 wisdom, but it was awarded to Tubban? The same person who hasn't been active in months?

Y'all are pulling some shady shit, some revisionist shit, some down right political spin.

http://i51.tinypic.com/23utnx5.jpg

Actually, what had been said was that Tubban hasn't been online much in months.

And this statement right here actually proves how unaware we were about Tubban using any sort of 3rd party program. Would we honestly award God loot to someone we knew was using an illegal program and risk loosing that loot for the guild's collective advancement?

And don't throw out that tired conspiracy theory that Durison would because he knows about all cheatin; because as Abacab stated, it was awared by a loot council, not Durison.

Not a single DA post yet?? how odd.

Yes. Some of us have better things to do than troll the RnF forums. I'm only here because, once again.. someone pointed something out to me and my curiosity brought me to look at it.

[Harrison]

some stupid "new to 1999 shit"


lawlzy

[yaaaflow]

do you guys often award god loot to dudes who barely play for months at a time?

if yes then sign me up! <3

[Koota]

I'll make a reply here, and I know immediately that people aren't going to believe it, are going to spin it to whatever way they can to fit it into a puzzle of a different sort, or whatever. The truth over all the Dark Ascension drama is pretty simple, really.

First and foremost, the entirety of the guild, nor the leadership of the guild was or is aware of any sort of cheating. Either it be the use of MQ2, SEQ, duping, database insider information, or anything. How would I know? Because I was in the leadership circle. If you think that anyone in the leadership circle would openly admit that they use or utilize any of the aforementioned infractions, you're wrong. It's just that simple. I never mentioned my use of SEQ to the others, because I knew they were against it. It's just that simple.

So I am not saying that everyone, including the leadership DOESN'T do any of these things, because I can not magically appear behind them at home and see what programs they have running. But in the same breath, the EXACT SAME can be said for ANYONE else on this server. You truly truly truly do NOT know, unless you fuck up and get caught. Dark Ascension had 2 recent incidents where this happened, nearly in a row. So the spotlight is a bit brighter.

As for Tubban, it's true that he was absent for some time, in GENERAL, prior to his banning. His name was pretty rare in /guild. The function of loot council, to my understanding at the time (It may have changed over the past few weeks), is to award those players whose total contributions were that higher of another player. This not only includes raid attendance, but tracking (incoming joke), donation of class-related skills on off-times, and a variety of other things. Tubban was a long time member, and it's possible that the item he was awarded, it was a no brainer in that he had been a member longer, and had attended more raids. I know that DA has had an influx of applicant clerics, so it's very possible that he was the only 'long timer' on the list of clerics up for said loot. Not, "OMG OBVIOUSLY CONDONING AND PARTAKING CUZ HE GOT LEWTZ". Use your fucking brains, pseudo egotistical saps.

And there is no denying that Tubban, from what I have heard, was acting not like himself prior to his banning. Now there are some conspiracy theories floating around that people have told me about how he is believed to be a totally new owner, or someone had access to him at the time of his banning, or what have you. None of that really matters, because as it's said: "It's not what you know, it's what you can prove." Which applies to everything in this thread.

So I leave you with that. Let your hate mongering, propaganda spreading, shit spewing carry on.

[Bones]

do you guys often award god loot to dudes who barely play for months at a time?

if yes then sign me up! <3
This ^

[Zereh]

We’re playing on a hacked errr emulated server with jacked up code on 10-year old game ran by some geeky (albeit talented) technophiles. 99% of the people playing this game grabbed it off of a torrent and had to be led by a string to get it loaded improperly enough to even log on here. Quit pretending like you’re outraged that there are people who take it one step further and use something like sEQ or whatever the hell it is; it’s like complaining about seeing nude women when you’re at a strip club. Why even act surprised?

Ban those who you find using cheats. I’m all for it. Obviously you have the means of finding them and doing so, so more power to ya. But I still believe it’s weak to pretend like it is something that anyone besides the person who is running it should be held accountable or responsible for.

[iamjack]

There were 5 clerics in the raid.
Nizzarr -> DawnFire
Banzo -> DawnFire
Lorelae -> Almost finish app period,
Tubban -> doesn't raid frequently, rare spwan but still he is a Full member.
Xazo -> App