I apologize for DA and IB actions

[x Raren x]

First and foremost, I would like to keep all the trolling out of this thread as I explain the hacking situation that happened yesterday evening under my guilds behalf.

We were poop socking near Nagafen’s spawn point when all of a sudden a GM stated that we were suspended from raiding with the exception of Hate and Fear for one week. We were all confused and asked who and why. There was a player with a DA guild tag in lower guk who was using MQ. For some reason this member was caught using MQ by a GM and the whole guild faces the consequence. The MQ user was quickly banned. I would like to openly apologize to all members of the P99 server as my guild does not promote any sort of cheating with the exception of duping items.

This DA tagged member who was located in lower guk is an IB spy. IB bought out the character and /tell Uthgaard that he is using MQ to get the entire guild banned. I am also in IB and would like to apologize for this IB member as he is representing my guild poorly. Xzerion is a great guild leader and developer to me and doesn’t deserve this type of disrespect.

All I bring here are facts… The GMs on this server are nothing, but fucking IB cumguzzlers. Slurp slurp slurp… Rogean you got a little milk moustache that you should have Nilbog lick off. I am now DDOSing the server because of these nazi ass GMs.

[Itchybottom]

I am now DDOSing the server because of these nazi ass GMs.

Still responds to ping; DDoS failure! A real attack would cripple two hops up, you sissy man.

[Supreme]

I would like to openly apologize to all members of the P99 server as my guild does not promote any sort of cheating with the exception of duping items.

:D

[Skope]

Pretend Raren troll, quit tarnishing Raren's good name!

[Mountaineer]

HEy Guys come on! Raren wants to keep the trolling out of this thread! Play nice!

[sobchak123]

Pretty sure the person that was playing this "cleric using MQ in LGUK" (Give me a break) and got banned wasn't the real owner of this account. Whoever was on this account yesterday was also charging guild members for rezes and asking for plat in /gu. The real owner is in the military, constantly deployed, and had been MIA for quite awhile.

Would love to see an IP investigation into this and to see what IP's match to who/what from which guilds. It's no secret that multiple people have/had access to cleric accounts in both guilds since healers are in such high demands for raids, especially Spiroc Lord. Wouldn't surprise me if this was a spy from a rival guild that set this up.

[Ravhin]

Wow that is next level conspiracy stuff. Awesome if its true though.

[Pheer]

DA's tinfoil hats never get dusty

[saucer]

Ya dude, definitely IBs fault... I mean, if it weren't for IB, DA wouldnt need to use cheats at all right?

[maya]

DA and IB are actually one super-guild that creates fake public squabbles so they can retain control over key raid targets and avoid P1999's antitrust rules. To prevent a leak to the public, only the leaders of each guild knows the truth.

"x Raren x" is actually an agent of IB used to discredit DA by associating their name with conspiracy theories.

I have seen the Fnords!

[sobchak123]

DA's tinfoil hats never get dusty

I'd love to see an IP investigation into this and see what other accounts on P99 have logged on from that same IP Tubban was logged into last night

[Pheer]

I'd love to see an IP investigation into this and see what other accounts on P99 have logged on from that same IP Tubban was logged into last night

sobchak123 is about to blow this case wide open guys

[sobchak123]

sobchak123 is about to blow this case wide open guys

/shrug

[girth]

It's no secret that multiple people have/had access to cleric accounts

There is your answer, but you guys will believe anything your leaders tell you I guess... yea sure it was a spy and not just somebody else in the guild using the cleric account. Got nobody to blame but yourself if you hang around with known cheaters, not like this is the first time or even close to it, so don't expect the benefit of the doubt.

[Bodeanicus]

Wow that is next level conspiracy stuff. Awesome if its true though.

UFOs and ghosts are real, too, brah.

[Glitch]

FIVE STAR THREAD

[Zeelot]

DA and IB are actually one super-guild that creates fake public squabbles so they can retain control over key raid targets and avoid P1999's antitrust rules. To prevent a leak to the public, only the leaders of each guild knows the truth.

There's been a clear violation of the p1999 sherman act section 2: restraint of raid targets!

[Felix]

There's been a clear violation of the p1999 sherman act section 2: restraint of raid targets!

I request immediate issuance of a temporary restraining order from Lord Chancellor Rogean.

[sobchak123]

There is your answer, but you guys will believe anything your leaders tell you I guess... yea sure it was a spy and not just somebody else in the guild using the cleric account. Got nobody to blame but yourself if you hang around with known cheaters, not like this is the first time or even close to it, so don't expect the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not saying I believe anything at this point, nor do I expect someone like you to post in this thread with any kind of honesty. I find it ironic you of all people would cry about hanging out with known cheaters, and not expecting the benefit of the doubt, when your own guild members have:

A) Admitted to using ShowEQ (Virtuosos) (Where's the raid suspension for that btw Rogean)

B) Your guild leader is a developer who purposely changed raid content to benefit your guild. Not only was this done, it was done without even being listed in the patch notes until the next day, when a correction was made because people bitched about it. Tell me, who polices that abuse of power? His good friend Nilbog?

C) Have had members in your guild who were caught and banned for using MQ

D) Have officers that purposely train rival guilds as they are pulling mobs. Nothing is done. No raid suspensions. No account banning. Slaps on the wrist.

E) Exploit the client to lev up in Vox's cubby, and then pull her through the wall to king room. (Rogean where's the raid suspension for exploiting pathing and the client btw)

There is a ridiculous double standard here that has gone on for a long time.

So what would be the harm in checking IPs? /shrug

[Lazortag]

B) Your guild leader is a developer who purposely changed raid content to benefit your guild. Not only was this done, it was done without even being listed in the patch notes until the next day, when a correction was made because people bitched about it. Tell me, who polices that abuse of power? His good friend Nilbog?

I know I should just let DA and IB blow each other up, but this was thoroughly responded to by nilbog. You have to guzzle a lot of kool-aid to believe this particular theory.

[Ponden]

A) Admitted to using ShowEQ (Virtuosos) (Where's the raid suspension for that btw Rogean)

He was in Trans when he did that.


D) Have officers that purposely train rival guilds as they are pulling mobs. Nothing is done. No raid suspensions. No account banning. Slaps on the wrist.

Apparently training one or two people is legit, but training a "congretation" of players is not.

[Morlaeth]

sobchak123 is about to blow this case wide open guys

Dick Fuckin' Tracey.....You Brell Serelis peeps will know what I'm talking about.

[Hobby]

Oh hey guys, beta is open! We should go spend some time there testing stuff!


Lets go! *shuffles people into kunark*

[sobchak123]

He was in Trans when he did that.

Apparently training one or two people is legit, but training a "congretation" of players is not.

I'm sure he's never loaded it up or something since he's been tagged IB

[Pheer]

make assumptions with 0 evidence all you want, meanwhile we'll sit back and watch as every other week another DA member is caught cheating

[Cyrano]

Is this going to turn into another "IB is evil DA is good" thread?

I love when you guys get another member who wants to carry this torch.

Has potential.

Both guilds have done shitty things to one another, there are no innocents here. You get competitive people working within constraints of an 11 year old MMO and you'll see all sorts of things happen.

What I will say is this, IB has a track record of policing our own members when they step out of bounds while DA has continually protected members who are caught and punished by GMs. When we have people actively break rules they get removed from the guild.

[sobchak123]

make assumptions with 0 evidence all you want, meanwhile we'll sit back and watch as every other week another DA member is caught cheating

Zero evidence?

LOL you seriously need to stop throwing stones at glass houses

Gwence is an officer in your guild that trains rival guilds consistently. He griefs people any chance he can get. He also 2 boxes. Why has he not been perma banned? Where's the raid suspension?

Xzerion is your guild leader and also a developer. He has used his powers as a developer in an effort to help his guild within the game. Where's the raid suspension?

You have known ShowEQ users tagged IB. Where's the raid suspension?

You've had multiple members banned for 2 boxing and using MQ in the past. Where was the raid suspension?

You have people that exploit the client to lev up into Vox's cubby and then exploit the pathing and pull her through the damn wall. (Perun) Where's the ban and raid suspension?

[sobchak123]

Is this going to turn into another "IB is evil DA is good" thread?

I love when you guys get another member who wants to carry this torch.

Has potential.

Both guilds have done shitty things to one another, there are no innocents here. You get competitive people working within constraints of an 11 year old MMO and you'll see all sorts of things happen.

What I will say is this, IB has a track record of policing our own members when they step out of bounds while DA has continually protected members who are caught and punished by GMs. When we have people actively break rules they get removed from the guild.

Really?

Why is Gwence an officer still and Virtuosos still tagged IB then

Answer me that

Also please explain to me how an officer of DA is supposed to be able to know some random member in LGUK is using MQ while the entire guild is sitting in sol B? What magical detection device does their leadership have that can magically tell them their members are using programs like this.

[Lazortag]

Xzerion is your guild leader and also a developer. He has used his powers as a developer in an effort to help his guild within the game. Where's the raid suspension?

I know I should just let DA and IB blow each other up, but this was thoroughly responded to by nilbog. You have to guzzle a lot of kool-aid to believe this particular theory.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22200&page=34

Permafrost pathing. Really? Well I was handling that the next morning, so here's the facts.

-Npc was given pathing
-The change wasn't listed in the changelog because Xzerion can't even see the changelog to post it in.
-Patch happens
-Npc now has pathing on live server
-Few people ask about the pathing.
-The change didn't appear in the patch notes initially, because it wasn't on said changelog
-Xzerion verifies it doesn't need pathing and fixes it back
-I edited the patch notes to include it
-Added to next changelog

It persists because there hasn't been a patch to include the revert. You'll see it in the patch notes.

He paths multiple npcs a day.

How this thread turned in slandering developers and GMs? I'm not sure. I'm going to ban some of you.

Now you're just being intellectually dishonest.

[Gwence]

Im also batman irl

[sobchak123]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22200&page=34



Now you're just being intellectually dishonest.

It was a stealth change that wasn't included in the original patch notes. It was edited the next day after people noticed it and complained. Nevermind the fact that this change happened one day after IB lost Vox due to DA being prepped in that area and being able to engage before them.

And no, that TT didn't path through there on live like that. That spot was a well know prep spot. That's why they said they were going to change it back.

[sobchak123]

^^^ Not like it matters anymore anyways, since apparently the developers here find it completely acceptable to lev sploit the client up the cubby and exploit pull Vox through the wall to King room.

[Pheer]

It always makes me laugh so hard how everytime this happens DA members come SCREAMING into the thread spamming conspiracy theories about other guilds/players cheating to try to distract people from the fact that their own members were caught cheating. Though when youre spamming tells to any player that dings 46 what do you really expect.

[Cyrano]

Zero evidence?

LOL you seriously need to stop throwing stones at glass houses

Gwence is an officer in your guild that trains rival guilds consistently. He griefs people any chance he can get. He also 2 boxes. Why has he not been perma banned? Where's the raid suspension?

Xzerion is your guild leader and also a developer. He has used his powers as a developer in an effort to help his guild within the game. Where's the raid suspension?

You have known ShowEQ users tagged IB. Where's the raid suspension?

You've had multiple members banned for 2 boxing and using MQ in the past. Where was the raid suspension?

You have people that exploit the client to lev up into Vox's cubby and then exploit the pathing and pull her through the damn wall. (Perun) Where's the ban and raid suspension?

Gwence 2 boxes? Prove it. We've kicked out apps for two boxing w/o the GMs getting involved. To my knowledge we've had one active member of the guild in the history of this server banned for two boxing.

Xzerion changed pathing on a mob and this gives us an advantage how? Please explain how this only gives IB an advantage? Next thing you're going to cry about the PoF ring not being classic. Grow the fuck up.

We have known SEQ users? Ummm from everything I can tell it's 1 person who got in trouble for it months ago and served his time. On top of that he wasn't in our guild when that happened. You better believe that issue was scrutinized when he apped and it was made perfectly clear that if we caught wind of him doing anything of that sort again he'd be gone forever. How do I know? I was in charge of recruiting at the time. How's that for proof you fucking mudslinger?

Your guild has a history of rampantly breaking rules, training, ksing, and cheating and you're surprised by this punishment? Are you truly that dense? When we had to poopsock because you fuckers started zerg inviting people to hold multiple camps with 15+ members months ago is when all this started and here we are about to enter 2011 and DA IS STILL DOING THE SAME SHIT. You guys have an officer caught using TPP cheats two weeks ago only to have another member (Tubban) get caught with it shortly after and you don't think it's fair to punish the guild? Jesus Christ if you won't police your own members someone has to. I don't know who it was but whoever compared you guys to multiple drug offenders being hammered for getting picked up while high was spot on.

There are a ton of good people in that guild but you continually promote members into positions of leadership who train, dupe, and blatantly cheat (going far enough to be caught with proof by GMs) and yet you still want to point fingers at us?

Look I have no clue who you are and you can, and undoubtedly will, continue to bravely try and play damage control for your guild but it's the same song again and again. You guys harbor cheaters and griefers, Durison has made it a normal occurrence and it will continue. The only thing I have to say to that is stop being surprised.

[Origin]

Gwence 2 boxes? Prove it. We've kicked out apps for two boxing w/o the GMs getting involved. To my knowledge we've had one active member of the guild in the history of this server banned for two boxing.

Xzerion changed pathing on a mob and this gives us an advantage how? Please explain how this only gives IB an advantage? Next thing you're going to cry about the PoF ring not being classic. Grow the fuck up.

We have known SEQ users? Ummm from everything I can tell it's 1 person who got in trouble for it months ago and served his time. On top of that he wasn't in our guild when that happened. You better believe that issue was scrutinized when he apped and it was made perfectly clear that if we caught wind of him doing anything of that sort again he'd be gone forever. How do I know? I was in charge of recruiting at the time. How's that for proof you fucking mudslinger?

Your guild has a history of rampantly breaking rules, training, ksing, and cheating and you're surprised by this punishment? Are you truly that dense? When we had to poopsock because you fuckers started zerg inviting people to hold multiple camps with 15+ members months ago is when all this started and here we are about to enter 2011 and DA IS STILL DOING THE SAME SHIT. You guys have an officer caught using TPP cheats two weeks ago only to have another member (Tubban) get caught with it shortly after and you don't think it's fair to punish the guild? Jesus Christ if you won't police your own members someone has to. I don't know who it was but whoever compared you guys to multiple drug offenders being hammered for getting picked up while high was spot on.

There are a ton of good people in that guild but you continually promote members into positions of leadership who train, dupe, and blatantly cheat (going far enough to be caught with proof by GMs) and yet you still want to point fingers at us?

Look I have no clue who you are and you can, and undoubtedly will, continue to bravely try and play damage control for your guild but it's the same song again and again. You guys harbor cheaters and griefers, Durison has made it a normal occurrence and it will continue. The only thing I have to say to that is stop being surprised.

Thread over.

[Arkanjil]

Added to my sig thanks to this thread!

[Humerox]

Never ceases to amaze me that the only people on the server that sling mud at IB are...can you guess?

And every time that particular guild gets caught up in a shitstorm, it's "But IB, but IB, but IB!"

Shit's tired and old. Time for the decent members to throw all the trash out and restructure the leadership...or gtfo, form their own guild, and regain some respect.

[finalgrunt]

Never ceases to amaze me that the only people on the server that sling mud at IB are...can you guess?

And every time that particular guild gets caught up in a shitstorm, it's "But IB, but IB, but IB!"

Shit's tired and old. Time for the decent members to throw all the trash out and restructure the leadership...or gtfo, form their own guild, and regain some respect.

Well as far as my opinion matters, the server would be much better without IB & DA at all. But that's called wishful thinking.

Boxing, Poop socking, Training, Cheating. That's how the raid scene turned into on this server, and it's not pretty.

[sobchak123]

Gwence 2 boxes? Prove it. We've kicked out apps for two boxing w/o the GMs getting involved. To my knowledge we've had one active member of the guild in the history of this server banned for two boxing.

You've had more than one guild member banned for 2 boxing. I'm surprised you would even attempt to deny this. Ironically there are 2 that I know of that were unbanned when supposedly 2 boxing is supposed to be a lifetime ban without exception. I guess having a dev as your guild leader has it's advantages. People have been tagged in IB, raided with you, and left to join other guilds. You are aware of this right? You'd be surprised at what people actually know.

Xzerion changed pathing on a mob and this gives us an advantage how? Please explain how this only gives IB an advantage? Next thing you're going to cry about the PoF ring not being classic. Grow the fuck up.You're a fucking noob. How the hell do you even tie your own shoes. No wonder IB has been getting completely dominated by DA this last week. Being able to prep in that room is a huge tactical advantage. You lost Vox on multiple occasions because a guild was prepped there and able to pull while you were still jerking your dicks in Everfrost. Ironic that the TT's pathing was changed to prevent this advantage the day after you lost Vox yet again.

Your guild leader is a developer, so he was able to make this change immediately after losing the raid target. If it's "not a big deal", then why the fuck is he making the change the next day after the guild he leads loses the encounter to a rival guild. Go ahead and try to rationalize that one for me Einstein.

Please explain to me how the hell a developer is blatantly leading a raid guild on this server anyways. In the early days of P99, this was not supposed to be fucking happening. Now it's like right out in the open and nobody says a damn thing. Not a peep. We're all supposed to say "Oh, that's cool. Nothing wrong with that." Are you fucking kidding me?

But like I said before it's irrelevant. Apparently the devs here find it perfectly acceptable to exploit the client in windowed mode to lev up in Vox's cubby and exploit her pathing to pull her through a fucking wall to king room now.

We have known SEQ users? Ummm from everything I can tell it's 1 person who got in trouble for it months ago and served his time. On top of that he wasn't in our guild when that happened. You better believe that issue was scrutinized when he apped and it was made perfectly clear that if we caught wind of him doing anything of that sort again he'd be gone forever. How do I know? I was in charge of recruiting at the time. How's that for proof you fucking mudslinger?From everything you can tell? Really? So you guild this guy before you know he's using ShowEQ? He admits to it but he keeps his tag? Really? A cheater is a cheater right? As far as I'm concerned as long as this idiot holds an IB tag, you can take your fake outrage and shove it up your collective assholes. The truth is you really don't know who in your guild is doing it, has done it, and will do it in the future. It's not detectable. He admitted to using a 3rd party cheat program on these forums. He's tagged IB. The developers have taken no action against his account, I doubt they ever will, and he's still tagged IB.

Your guild has a history of rampantly breaking rules, training, ksing, and cheating and you're surprised by this punishment? Are you truly that dense? When we had to poopsock because you fuckers started zerg inviting people to hold multiple camps with 15+ members months ago is when all this started and here we are about to enter 2011 and DA IS STILL DOING THE SAME SHIT. You guys have an officer caught using TPP cheats two weeks ago only to have another member (Tubban) get caught with it shortly after and you don't think it's fair to punish the guild? Jesus Christ if you won't police your own members someone has to. I don't know who it was but whoever compared you guys to multiple drug offenders being hammered for getting picked up while high was spot on.Your guild has a longer history of rampantly breaking rules, training, KSing, and cheating. I'm not surprised by the punishment done to DA. When Koota got caught, the punishment was justified. This on the other hand is a complete joke. Whoever was playing this Tubban account was demanding guildmates pay him for rezes, and asking for plat handouts in /gu being an obvious douchebag apparently. Something was off about his behavior, especially if you knew the original player. I'd really like the Gms to run an IP investigation to see exactly who was logging into this account, and what other accounts they have logged into from the same IP. I'd also like to see how many different IPs have actually logged into Tubban's account. Especially over the last month, and if possible check that as far back as you can within the entire accounts history and compare them. I don't really see why people even have a problem with this. If I was a GM here, I would want to know that information anyways. Wouldn't you?

I can only laugh at you claiming DA made you poopsock. Nobody made you do shit you fucking crybaby. Your petty ego made you sit there like a chump idle in the zones for months. I hope it was worth it. IB isn't exactly dominating the competition with these first to engage rules either.

Go ahead and tell me how DA leadership is supposed to be able to detect a random guild member using MQ in LGUK while the guild is sitting in SolB. Go ahead and explain that to me.

There are a ton of good people in that guild but you continually promote members into positions of leadership who train, dupe, and blatantly cheat (going far enough to be caught with proof by GMs) and yet you still want to point fingers at us? Gwence is an officer in IB that blatantly trains rival guilds so just shut the fuck up. His account should be perma banned right now for the blatant bullshit he's been able to get away with.

Look I have no clue who you are and you can, and undoubtedly will, continue to bravely try and play damage control for your guild but it's the same song again and again. You guys harbor cheaters and griefers, Durison has made it a normal occurrence and it will continue. The only thing I have to say to that is stop being surprised.I honestly could give a fuck about P99 anymore or any guild on this server. It's not a real EQ server. It's a sandbox. Fine. The precedent set by the GMs yesterday was laughable. I'm still waiting for another guild to be "raid suspended" because a random member of their guild broke the rules in a non raid zone like lower guk. That's the precedent that has been set. So the next time some IB mage KSs some noob at Frenzy, or trains mobs to zone that kills someone, I'll be expecting a raid suspension for a period of one week. Unless you can explain to me how leadership of any guild is supposed to be able to detect and police random members using 3rd party programs? I didn't think so.

When a developer is openly a guild leader of a major raiding guild here, all sense of fairness and impartiality goes right out the window.

[Abysis]

I don't know anything about any of this but on the bright side its free!

PvE server politics are so confusing. it's like some CIA shit. But if you really want to get your way its probably just like the real world, you give money to the right people and you get your way.

Wish there was a p99 vz/tz server with a decent population, on pvp if you got beef you kill them, if you fuck up you get corpse camped till it expires and you are forced to quit, thats my kind of justice.

Oh well guess have to stick around with all you shady bunch of freaks with fake GMs that answer to no one expect their constitutes it seems. You really have to be a real wack job to play eqEMU. I know i am. I mean if you are a hardcore MMO player in general your a wack job, don't try to deny it or else your making it worse. I don't care what you do outside of this it doesn't make it any better.

[girth]

I honestly could give a fuck about P99 anymore or any guild on this server.

Could have fooled me the way you rage every time you post

Talk all the shit you want about others cheating but nobody will listen when your guild gets caught every other week, not to mention all the members you have lost from bannings and suspensions dating back to the summer...it's been the same story since you guys started raiding and it's about fucking time the GMs held the guild responsible...it only took months of yall ruining the end game on here before they did.

Your guild leader was quoted saying 'if we get banned we get banned.' What more proof do you want that the guild leadership is full of shit when it comes to trying to be legit...to ignore such statements from your leader puts the blame on all of you guys for staying with him and his core group of cheaters. After all the shit DA has pulled in its lifetime, if you stick with them you deserve every bit of punishment that your guildies bring upon you.

Strike 2 by the way, watch out for the curveball...

[Thatguy05]

[QUOTE= I'd also like to see how many different IPs have actually logged into Tubban's account. Especially over the last month, and if possible check that as far back as you can within the entire accounts history and compare them. I don't really see why people even have a problem with this. If I was a GM here, I would want to know that information anyways. Wouldn't you?
[/QUOTE]

Solved?

[Tibador]

Quoted by Cyrano
What I will say is this, IB has a track record of policing our own members when they step out of bounds while DA has continually protected members who are caught and punished by GMs. When we have people actively break rules they get removed from the guild.


What about Tiki Cyrano ???????

[Rahnza]

Quoted by Cyrano



What about Tiki Cyrano ???????

Oh good, input from the worst GM ability abuser to have played on P99.

[Rahnza]

You bored of EZ Server Tibador?

[guydude]

Oh good, input from the worst GM ability abuser to have played on P99.

Give me an example of when he "abused" his GM powers.

Also, give me a reason why using MQ and getting Tiki banned isnt a bad thing?

Just like repopping vox to get new loot because she was "broken" is a bad thing, right? You know damn well just as good as me that the dev's didn't have a working script at the time to repop vox for. So stfu and keep wearing the biggest bullshit hat i've ever seen, tiki.

Cyrano, keep defending people. IB kicked a DA spy out of IB through use of Xzerion's ability to be a dev and IP track. By that rule, he also let a KNOWN, BANNED MQ user into his guild by means of Rediculous/Tiki.

keep it up pros

[Rahnza]

Give me an example of when he "abused" his GM powers.

TPing me repeatedly out of Fear to Feerrott for starters.

Rediculous/Tiki.

This alone proves you're an idiot and probably shouldn't be sharing your opinion on anything hehe.

[Xentin]

You've had more than one guild member banned for 2 boxing. I'm surprised you would even attempt to deny this. Ironically there are 2 that I know of that were unbanned when supposedly 2 boxing is supposed to be a lifetime ban without exception. I guess having a dev as your guild leader has it's advantages. People have been tagged in IB, raided with you, and left to join other guilds. You are aware of this right? You'd be surprised at what people actually know.
Nizzarr? No offense but I leveled with nizzarr and he was one of the biggest conspiracy theorists in IB about Transcendence. Also, I dont remember any specific member outside of apps getting banned for boxing in our guild. Proof please?



Blah Blah Blah Xzerion is a Dev
So please explain to me what is so hard to understand about people who still play on Live and told the devs that the mob paths there. It was looked into and hence since Xz is the one who does most of the pathing for the server it was changed, you guys cried it was researched even more and thus proven different and changed back within a day. Quit your bitching, Nilbog even laid out what happened for you and you still put the tinfoil hat on over it.



Blah Blah Blah Virt used to use ShowEQ, bitch bitch bitch
Yep, he admitted to it, Cant answer that but he doesnt anymore so until you can prove that he still does I'm not sure what you think you are going to get at. Tons of people on this server have been able to get a second chance, not even constrained to IB and DA.



IB has a long history of cheating and crap
Again, proof please.

I can only laugh at you claiming DA made you poopsock. Nobody made you do shit you fucking crybaby. Your petty ego made you sit there like a chump idle in the zones for months. I hope it was worth it. IB isn't exactly dominating the competition with these first to engage rules either.
You are pretty ignorant. You guys wanted raid mobs more so you came up with a way to compete better. You did it, you over recruited and can have 40 people on within minutes of a spawn at any time. Gratz to you guys, but it has forced IB to do the same to compete. You can say we arent dominating but you can't claim the same either since we have rebuilt. Not too long ago IB didn't even really exist.

Go ahead and tell me how DA leadership is supposed to be able to detect a random guild member using MQ in LGUK while the guild is sitting in SolB. Go ahead and explain that to me.
Have a more strict recruiting process with harder standards to make member to try and get only the best players instead of spam inviting anyone who hits level 46. I do find it funny any time I log in to an alt or an old IB member we have tagless and the tells I get from DA.



Gwence is an officer in IB that blatantly trains rival guilds so just shut the fuck up. His account should be perma banned right now for the blatant bullshit he's been able to get away with.
Yeah he has been suspended, cant argue that. But you can't say he is the only one. All guilds have been guilty of that here, even outside the main 2 discussed in this thread.



I honestly could give a fuck about P99 anymore or any guild on this server. It's not a real EQ server. It's a sandbox. Fine. The precedent set by the GMs yesterday was laughable. I'm still waiting for another guild to be "raid suspended" because a random member of their guild broke the rules in a non raid zone like lower guk. That's the precedent that has been set. So the next time some IB mage KSs some noob at Frenzy, or trains mobs to zone that kills someone, I'll be expecting a raid suspension for a period of one week. Unless you can explain to me how leadership of any guild is supposed to be able to detect and police random members using 3rd party programs? I didn't think so.

And again you are an ignorant fool who just wants to believe what he wants too. I guess you are unaware of the multiple warnings against your guild before raid suspension goes into play. Its kind of sad really, but Girth hit it right on. You do give a fuck because of how hard you are raging. Your life revolves around this server outside of work otherwise you wouldn't get so worked up over it. Now if only you could get your facts straight and give some proof to your accusations and there might be a warrant behind all your rage.

[Ponden]

Cyrano, keep defending people. IB kicked a DA spy out of IB through use of Xzerion's ability to be a dev and IP track. By that rule, he also let a KNOWN, BANNED MQ user into his guild by means of Rediculous/Tiki.

keep it up pros

He openly admitted to having a main in DA, and apologized for it. You're a moron.

[guydude]

TPing me repeatedly out of Fear to Feerrott for starters.



When you weren't supposed to be in the same raid zone as Transcendence, as clearly outlined by the current raid rules at that time.



This alone proves you're an idiot and probably shouldn't be sharing your opinion on anything hehe.

Quit beating around the bush. Everyone knows you were Rediculous. Dont fight it. Quit trying to change the subject, what about vox?

[guydude]

He openly admitted to having a main in DA, and apologized for it. You're a moron.

And?

Doesnt change how he was removed from the guild.

[Jenni D]

not meaning to flame here. but if an officer in your guild is suspended for something, and you all know it (and just confirmed it) why did we never receive an apology from anyone in your guild? does that mean it is behaviour approved of? again, just a question. i know it happens all the time and not just members of your guild etc etc etc. if we hadnt caught it on recording i assume it would have been "swept under the rug"

- Jen

[Rahnza]

When you weren't supposed to be in the same raid zone as Transcendence, as clearly outlined by the current raid rules at that time.



Quit beating around the bush. Everyone knows you were Rediculous. Dont fight it. Quit trying to change the subject, what about vox?

haha you may be even dumber than rachel or w/e that dude's name was.

[guydude]

not meaning to flame here. but if an officer in your guild is suspended for something, and you all know it (and just confirmed it) why did we never receive an apology from anyone in your guild? does that mean it is behaviour approved of? again, just a question. i know it happens all the time and not just members of your guild etc etc etc. if we hadnt caught it on recording i assume it would have been "swept under the rug"

- Jen

Best post ever.

Keep changing the subject tiki, damn. Usually, that means your a bit scared/don't want to admit failure when your a cheating sob, who IB allowed back into their ranks knowingly.

haha

[Jenni D]

and i am not trying to bait anyone with that post. just a serious question regarding guild policy on member behaviour. this applies to all guilds. id like to think if anyone in my guild was suspended for foul play they would be swiftly removed.

[Abysis]

I'm enjoying this thread.

[Slathar]

Listen to all these people cry over a computer game. YOUR PIXELS SHALL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!1111one


The sad/alarming part is most of these people are probably older than 20.

[Rangerboy]

Whos DA? ...lol.

[thefloydian]

LOL you seriously need to stop throwing stones at glass houses

failed cliches are extra hilarious

[thefloydian]

Is it just me, or has this sobhack guy posted the exact same reply 10+ times in this thread?

[Messianic]

Im a young doctor

[quido]

I THAWT DA WUZ A SPELL

[Winobot]

DA releases an official apology...

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[Mountaineer]

He openly admitted to having a main in DA, and apologized for it. You're a moron.

I never admitted it. I wanted to see if I could actually make full member. I wasn't caught after 2 weeks and thought I would actually make it to the vote (which I felt I would get admitted because I was actually trying). I never admitted who I was...and took very very careful precautions to prevent myself from being caught. I logged in (actually the same time that DA got suspended) to find myself removed the guild (which only a GM can guild remove you while offline.....so yeah....) and I had no idea WTF happened. I found out from an IB that I was kicked due to the other character I had on my account. They didn't just say they found out who I was. They didn't just say that they knew I had the same IP as a DA member.....they somehow knew that my character that was app'ing with IB had a character tagged in DA on the same account. I don't know about guilds other than IB...but DA for one can not look into applicants; character selection screen to see what other characters they play.

[Mountaineer]

And yes later on I did apologize to several people for that.

[Lazortag]

DA releases an official apology...

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Sorry dude but I made the joke already. I also made the James Lebron joke too so I guess you're out of luck.

[Rangerboy]

DA a form of Realm of Insanity?

[Hobby]

When people petition for people removed from a guild (and if they dont ask every 3 days for it to be done......) i'll happily oblige.

Ive removed a number of people from DA when they were offline as well as from a few other guilds.

Dont expect me to do it once a week though, you are expected to manage your own guild -- not rely on me. But i do not have a problem occasionally helping if people are polite about it.

[Rahnza]

DA a form of Realm of Insanity?

What does DA have to do with RoI?

[Rathali]

When people petition for people removed from a guild (and if they dont ask every 3 days for it to be done......) i'll happily oblige.

Ive removed a number of people from DA when they were offline as well as from a few other guilds.

Dont expect me to do it once a week though, you are expected to manage your own guild -- not rely on me. But i do not have a problem occasionally helping if people are polite about it.

You're especially eager to help your own guild of IB, aren't you Virtuosos? Pretty hilarious that you yourself had admitted to cheating before you joined IB and were somehow made a guide.

[Hobby]

I think i have spent more time helping whoever petitions or whoever happens to be raiding at the moment rather than a specific guild, but alas. Let the conspiracy's roll i suppose!

[Trimm]

But i do not have a problem occasionally helping if people are polite about it.

Funny how that works. :rolleyes:

[President]

Thanks for responding to me last night, PUT A DAMN SHIRT ON!

[Vangorr_WAR]

First: Ib, and Da have a lot of good people despite the huge immense teenage drama. Some of you I love , the others go to hell!@

Second: Both guilds should be banned. You guys annoy the whole fuckin server with your trash talk against one another its pathetic... Who the fuck cares you both have a history of cheating , training , pissing every one off. Apprently this is the message IB and DA want to give off So be it. Everyone outside these guilds learned to deal with it. Its the first 101 guild shit you learn about. Whether you choose sides etc at the end of the day they are both the two shit head guilds with some nice members in it. Nuthing like a mental fuck when one person is cool , but the bitching never ends. Personally you all should just join up as one guild IMO. Would be one fuckin powerful guild. I mean you all can have a bitch fest inside , but damn that would be funny.

[Gwence]

Second: Both guilds should be banned. You guys annoy the whole fuckin server with your trash talk against one another its pathetic... Who the fuck cares you both have a history of cheating , training , pissing every one off. Apprently this is the message IB and DA want to give off So be it. Everyone outside these guilds learned to deal with it. Its the first 101 guild shit you learn about. Whether you choose sides etc at the end of the day they are both the two shit head guilds with some nice members in it. Nuthing like a mental fuck when one person is cool , but the bitching never ends. Personally you all should just join up as one guild IMO. Would be one fuckin powerful guild. I mean you all can have a bitch fest inside , but damn that would be funny.

Funny stuff, were you thinking this when you applied to IB a couple weeks ago?

[Denzal]

I never admitted it. I wanted to see if I could actually make full member. I wasn't caught after 2 weeks and thought I would actually make it to the vote (which I felt I would get admitted because I was actually trying). I never admitted who I was...and took very very careful precautions to prevent myself from being caught. I logged in (actually the same time that DA got suspended) to find myself removed the guild (which only a GM can guild remove you while offline.....so yeah....) and I had no idea WTF happened. I found out from an IB that I was kicked due to the other character I had on my account. They didn't just say they found out who I was. They didn't just say that they knew I had the same IP as a DA member.....they somehow knew that my character that was app'ing with IB had a character tagged in DA on the same account. I don't know about guilds other than IB...but DA for one can not look into applicants; character selection screen to see what other characters they play.

You weren't going to make it you were a shit mage

[Darenenski]

they somehow knew that my character that was app'ing with IB had a character tagged in DA on the same account. I don't know about guilds other than IB...but DA for one can not look into applicants; character selection screen to see what other characters they play.

Didn't you use the same email like mountaineer@gmail.com or something? Rofl.

[Bodeanicus]

Funny stuff, were you thinking this when you applied to IB a couple weeks ago?

He have the nerve to say something about you being a training cunt? That why he wasn't allowed into your homo erotic circle jerk?

[Pheer]

Funny how everyone says IB has a history of this or that and never provides any proof, then when someone points that out they start screaming about xzerion being some evil mastermind covering it all up.

[Humerox]

Funny how everyone says IB has a history of this or that and never provides any proof, then when someone points that out they start screaming about xzerion being some evil mastermind covering it all up.

Not only that, the spin machines make everything IB's fault.

"We were cheating, but IB did it on November 23rd, April 15th, and June 1st of last year"

kinda shit.

Amazing how well it's done tho...

[Massive Marc]

Not only that, the spin machines make everything IB's fault.

"We were cheating, but IB did it on November 23rd, April 15th, and June 1st of last year"

kinda shit.

Amazing how well it's done tho...

BIG said it best, "..*****z is actors , *****z deserve Oscars"

[Tibador]

If i remember correctly IB did the same thing to Trans to get rid of them history repeats itself IB was number 1 at the time started shit with Trans to get rid of competition.

Now DA is number 1 and they try to get rid of Competition funny how things work out like that, now does that mean what they say is not true about each other, no but IB started this and bitches when it happens to them.

[guydude]

If i remember correctly IB did the same thing to Trans to get rid of them history repeats itself IB was number 1 at the time started shit with Trans to get rid of competition.

Now DA is number 1 and they try to get rid of Competition funny how things work out like that, now does that mean what they say is not true about each other, no but IB started this and bitches when it happens to them.

As I always said! If you cant beat em, suspend em!

[Slathar]

YOUR PIXELS MUST PAY FOR YOUR CRIMES!

Seriously.

[girth]

I'm surprised with all their time off, they don't come up with better lies/propaganda.

[William_Munny15]

Not only that, the spin machines make everything IB's fault.

"We were cheating, but IB did it on November 23rd, April 15th, and June 1st of last year"

kinda shit.

Amazing how well it's done tho...

Both of you probably mastered the shake weight too. Giving each other old fashions.

[Loke]

Giving each other old fashions.

http://www.robbspewak.com/robbradio/uploads/old20fashioned.jpg

[Vangorr_WAR]

Funny stuff, were you thinking this when you applied to IB a couple weeks ago?

No you see I sold Vangorr , So the new one running around isn't the orignal kk thx

[Humerox]

Both of you probably mastered the shake weight too. Giving each other old fashions.

I'm a freelancer....

:)

[ryuut1]

i hope wikileaks tells us the truth about IB and DA one day

[Yak]

Could have fooled me the way you rage every time you post

Talk all the shit you want about others cheating but nobody will listen when your guild gets caught every other week, not to mention all the members you have lost from bannings and suspensions dating back to the summer...it's been the same story since you guys started raiding and it's about fucking time the GMs held the guild responsible...it only took months of yall ruining the end game on here before they did.

Your guild leader was quoted saying 'if we get banned we get banned.' What more proof do you want that the guild leadership is full of shit when it comes to trying to be legit...to ignore such statements from your leader puts the blame on all of you guys for staying with him and his core group of cheaters. After all the shit DA has pulled in its lifetime, if you stick with them you deserve every bit of punishment that your guildies bring upon you.

Strike 2 by the way, watch out for the curveball...

This makes a lot more sense! I hate it when people start a rant thread and only post the one side of the story. It reminds me of people saying they got fired for being late to work. Then they fail to mention the pile of shit that they caused, the sink does add up. Play the game the way it was meant to be and you won't have any problems.

[laughinghorse]

Anyone typed /played lately...? Think about it. Accept, make peace with and get over it. start havin some fuckin' fun again, no matter the odds. You're just makin yourselves, your guildmates and each other look like turds; and you can't polish a turd. _BONUS JOKE!_ (What do many current "end-game" P99'ers and most mexican soccer players have in common? ... Both are drama-worshiping pussies who've forgotten how to respect an imperfect contest and who make you sick of the whole game while watching 'em whine like the bitches they've chosen to be.). hope we never meet, take care.

[Kassel]

Anyone typed /played lately...? Think about it. Accept, make peace with and get over it. start havin some fuckin' fun again, no matter the odds. You're just makin yourselves, your guildmates and each other look like turds; and you can't polish a turd. _BONUS JOKE!_ (What do many current "end-game" P99'ers and most mexican soccer players have in common? ... Both are drama-worshiping pussies who've forgotten how to respect an imperfect contest and who make you sick of the whole game while watching 'em whine like the bitches they've chosen to be.). hope we never meet, take care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBj6PonX14A

[Duma]

zzzz....


Is this the best EQ2flames has to offer?

[Goobles]

There is your answer, but you guys will believe anything your leaders tell you I guess... yea sure it was a spy and not just somebody else in the guild using the cleric account. Got nobody to blame but yourself if you hang around with known cheaters, not like this is the first time or even close to it, so don't expect the benefit of the doubt.

I remember a time when IB invited a cleric and SK that alluva sudden were level 50, and nobody had ever seen them before. What was the name of the SK? Derrp? IDK, but this was around the same time as the first Naggy kill. Actually, I think he was there for the first Naggy kill. Later, it was discovered that these guys had hacked a GM account and levelled themselves up. It's kind of funny, the negligence here. There's an old saying: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

[laughinghorse]

Kassel, I stand corrected... Hahaha. Peace suckas!

[Liathan]

So this cheating ("everything but duping") is openly admitted and STILL no action is taken against it? I find this extremely sad to be honest.

[Uthgaard]

How, out of all of this, did you and both your brain cells reach that concensus? :confused:

[nilbog]

So this cheating ("everything but duping") is openly admitted and STILL no action is taken against it? I find this extremely sad to be honest.

You read this whole thing?

You believed some of it?

/sad for you :(

[Hasbinbad]

Anyone typed /played lately...? Think about it. Accept, make peace with and get over it. start havin some fuckin' fun again, no matter the odds. You're just makin yourselves, your guildmates and each other look like turds; and you can't polish a turd. _BONUS JOKE!_ (What do many current "end-game" P99'ers and most mexican soccer players have in common? ... Both are drama-worshiping pussies who've forgotten how to respect an imperfect contest and who make you sick of the whole game while watching 'em whine like the bitches they've chosen to be.). hope we never meet, take care.
If Brittney Spears, N'Sync, Sean Combs, Miley Cyrius (c wat i did ther?) and every other pop star in American pop music is any indication, you can in fact polish a turd.

[chtulu]

If Brittney Spears, N'Sync, Sean Combs, Miley Cyrius (c wat i did ther?) and every other pop star in American pop music is any indication, you can in fact polish a turd.

And fantasize when that turd becomes legal age.

[baub]

heads up p diddy, chtulu wants that ass

[Liathan]

I would like to openly apologize to all members of the P99 server as my guild does not promote any sort of cheating with the exception of duping items.


I am referring to this sentense. Haven't read the thread to be honest, and if this was just a hoak...well then I have fallen for it.

[bizzum]

Anyone typed /played lately...? Think about it. Accept, make peace with and get over it. start havin some fuckin' fun again, no matter the odds. You're just makin yourselves, your guildmates and each other look like turds; and you can't polish a turd. _BONUS JOKE!_ (What do many current "end-game" P99'ers and most mexican soccer players have in common? ... Both are drama-worshiping pussies who've forgotten how to respect an imperfect contest and who make you sick of the whole game while watching 'em whine like the bitches they've chosen to be.). hope we never meet, take care.

Why post in a month old thread and NOT include a picture of the Thread Necromancer?

[astarothel]

This thread reminds me why I stopped playing here.

[jilena]

lol this thread is why I can't stay away from here. Drama is so awesome. I think it's more fun than actually playing : (

[Chanus]

Are you the same Girard that was in CB ranting about how RMT doesn't matter and you'd rather play with people who have bought plat and twinked their characters?

[Uthgaard]

This thread reminds me why I stopped playing here.

And here I thought it was because I fixed all of the tradeskill bugs.

[Liathan]

B) Your guild leader is a developer who purposely changed raid content to benefit your guild. Not only was this done, it was done without even being listed in the patch notes until the next day, when a correction was made because people bitched about it. Tell me, who polices that abuse of power? His good friend Nilbog?

Seriously (and definately im not creeping inside of someones arse): If this is the only form of "petting" that has yet happened here, then this place is still more professional than 99.99% of other games/servers/emus.. even some commercial ones.

[Slathar]

Seriously (and definately im not creeping inside of someones arse): If this is the only form of "petting" that has yet happened here, then this place is still more professional than 99.99% of other games/servers/emus.. even some commercial ones.

care to give some examples ace or just spout baseless facts

[Aasimon]

Bans applied. Thread locked because stupid.