my observations and why I chose not to play

[concerned_citizen]

Hello all,

I've been lurking P1999 forums for some time considering whether I want to play here or not. After years at the other classic project forums waiting for their project to release, I found P1999 on a thread there and starting looking into this server.

I've always been skeptical of emulation servers for mmorpgs because I've never felt there is as much security involved in the investment of time. Remembering how much time I spent back in 1999 leveling up/playing my character, I thought I should be cautious before investing time here. I think my lurking here paid off in this respect.

From what I gather about this server from threads on every board, I figured the best place to write this would be here since anything negative on the server, regardless of what is expressed, seems to end up here anyways.

This is a composition of observations that I've developed from reading about what goes on on this server on the forums. I write this so that others may get a better idea from my experiences.

A few main reasons I've decided not to play on P1999:

1. I used to love EC tunnel back in P1999 so I decided to check out how healthy the economy is on this server on the forums. I was disappointed to find such a large array of characters being sold for plat; even this guy named Bob who levels up your character from 1-50 for plat. You see, back in 1999 people actually cared about their character, it wasn't just some commodity that was traded around freely. I know from the many hours I put into my character back then I wouldn't let it go for the world - it was me in an imaginary world. Here, it seems that characters, especially end-game characters, have no connection with the player controlling them. That was very disappointing for me to see and totally destroys the classic-environment of the game for me.

2. From what I gather concerning GM decisions, I see that many people are punished without any indication, proof, or formal explanation past "we know it from our logs" for the punishment. There doesn't seem to be many immediate punishments either - just ban forever. What is most troublesome to me is that reading through some of these posts of peoples' experiences it seems possible that there was an error in judgment when issuing punishment. Instead, they are just told "you cheated", then mercilessly ridiculed. This sort of environment actually make me afraid to play for fear I'll do something wrong and be banned without ever knowing what I did wrong. The worst part is it seems a majority of the player-base trusts the GM decisions entirely even when no proof is available to them, which, I don't know about anybody else, seems very odd to me.

3. It seems to be that power-gaming is the norm here with a rush to the top the goal for many people. I conclude this based off the general interest on the forums in choosing "the most needed classes", "best leveling spots", "best farm spots", account selling, and the number of top-end guilds recruiting 46+ in comparison to the server population. From what I read from guild drama, the end game raiding is basically poop-socking, kill stealing, and feuding over interpretation of the rules - with the GMs supposedly playing sides. Aside from raiding, endgame seems to be all about farming items and plat. If this was the experience of you all back in 1999 then I feel very, very bad and sorry...for you all. For the reasons I've mentioned, this server really doesn't seem any better or worse then the typical WoW server, which I find very disappointing.

4. People seem not to genuinely enjoy the fact that the game is social. Instead, they seem to enjoy doing only that which benefits themselves, and comparing their worth based on the gear they've accumulated on their character. I feel this is the modern mmorpg mindset, something people here proclaim to dislike yet can't avoid themselves. In saying this, I find it hard to believe in the poll on the main page that near 60% of you played back during classic era. The environment of the game was very different then from the attitudes expressed here on the forums. I guess I asked myself at that point, why should somebody want to play a 10 year old game with outdated graphics when the social environment is no different then any modern mmorpgs?

Everquest in 1999 was a different world from what P1999 is today. In my opinion, it's not about the game you play or the world that you inhabit, but the people you play with that makes a mmorpg worth playing. It seems many people here don't share that sentiment. Combined with my observation of how the server is run and the rampant selling of characters, I feel P1999 would just be a letdown.

I hope you all enjoy playing the type of game P199 is. I just don't think it is for me.

Thanks,
Roger

[karsten]

after having read your post thoroughly, might I suggest trying the VZTZ Emulated server? It seems like their player base might be better suited to your style.

cheers,

[Humerox]

You've let the forums sway your opinion much too much. Most of the player-base doesn't even come here.

While you have a couple of valid points, there is still much fun and camaraderie to be found. For myself, getting out of the end-game drama was the ticket...been having a blast ever since. Barring RL constraints that is...I have much less time to invest in my play than I did a year ago, lol.

[Scrooge]

There is only so much you can learn from reading forums and playing the server once in a while. If you feel strongly about any aspect of the game, focus on that aspect. Better yet, thinking 'outside the box' is when the game becomes so much more than you think it is.

[skulldudes]

all the things that you complain about are only problems because you pay them mind. i can't grasp the reason for your nitpickery.

go about your own business and play the game; TRY IT, YOU'LL LIKE IT!

[Ashintar]

While I acknowledge your use of the word "citizen" in your forum name... apparenly you're not...

I don't post here much at all either, but if you're not willing to play on and enjoy this server I dont' see why you're willing to bash it. Thank you for your post, move along now.

[Kassel]

Why do you think anyone gives a fuck ?

[Chanus]

No, this game has a vibrant community because multi-boxing is against the rules.

[Villide]

Who is your banned character? #2 above just reeks of a banned player who is still butthurt about it.

Why did you put this immediately into Rants & Flames?

[Yam]

I suggest playing on the server without reading the forums. You'll be pleasantly surprised to find that the vast majority of people are invested in their characters, not rushing to the top, and socially inclined.

Bob caters to a very small minority that the bitch threads about the admins banning people for no reason are complete bullshit.

Just play a bit instead of reading the forums and forming opinions based on a small subsection of the playerbase.

[Yam]

Also, if you don't want to play why even post this?

This is, at best, some seriously passive-aggressive nerdling rage.

[utenan]

Hello all,

I've been lurking P1999 forums for some time considering whether I want to play here or not. After years at the other classic project forums waiting for their project to release, I found P1999 on a thread there and starting looking into this server.

I've always been skeptical of emulation servers for mmorpgs because I've never felt there is as much security involved in the investment of time. Remembering how much time I spent back in 1999 leveling up/playing my character, I thought I should be cautious before investing time here. I think my lurking here paid off in this respect.

From what I gather about this server from threads on every board, I figured the best place to write this would be here since anything negative on the server, regardless of what is expressed, seems to end up here anyways.

This is a composition of observations that I've developed from reading about what goes on on this server on the forums. I write this so that others may get a better idea from my experiences.

lol you don't have any?

[Dantes]

I wouldn't base your opinion on what you read on the discussion forums, as others have already said. The majority of the bitching happens here, while the other 90% of the community keeps to themselves and plays the game. There's a very loud minority here.

Why do you feel compelled to create an account called "concerned citizen" and write a full page about your feelings as to why you DON'T want to play here? How large is that stick up your ass? Probably better for the rest of us that you don't start playing. You're starting Rants and Flames threads and you haven't even rolled a fucking character yet.

I'll remind you it's a game. Your time "invested" is time wasted, no matter how you look at it. If you have to write an essay about whether or not you want to play a game, you need to find better and more exciting things to do with your time.

[Rangerous]

I can see someone being concerned about their "investment" in the game were this live. It's not live; It's memorex!

On a more serious note (:)) This is a free2play server, so there should be no sense of entitlement here. This whole setup is a pretty sweet deal if you ask me. I for one, have really been digging the scene here and I am only level 9.
There are some pretty nice people that I have met, and I haven't even made it out of Qeynos Hills/Black Burrow/Everfrost peaks areas yet! I am really looking forward to more groups and interaction here.

[quellren]

TL;DR

I gather that you let the vocal minority of whiners on this forum dictate whether you should play or not.
If you're that easily influenced, it's probably best that you don't play here.

What exactly is the point of this post?
You felt inclined to post a long list of issues with a game you don't even play, like your view is somehow going to influence the Admins to change things?

[Ongbak]

Its kind of like stop watching CNN and Foxnews and get to know people; it wasn't that bad after all.

[Massive Marc]

Hello Concerned_Citizen

I am new as well and would like to comment on some of your observations.

1: This game is old, and although many of us here are trying to re-live those EQgolden days..... Lots of us have grown old and have other responsibilities and just don't have the time to level up characters.

2: Lets be straight here. GM's and Dev's of this project aren't just blindly banning people. You and I both know that people are going to try and take advantage of this server because its an emulated server and has a low level of over all management. The chances of you getting banned for simply playing the game are 0-1%.

3. See my reply for 1. Simply, people don't have time to lolly gag around. They want to get to end game content and re-enjoy it.

4. People play the game for different reasons. How you enjoy it, might not be the same. ( I thought this would be common sense by now)

Finally, If your looking for a place to re-live your EQ experiences, then I suggest you make a character and start playing. Most of the drama you claim is holding you back, is A: Bullshit on the forums and B: Mob disputes at the very high end raiding content.

MM
(Quick post from work)

[Rangerous]

The OP reminds me of some reviews on absinthe my honey and I were reading. One of the reviewers was bitching about the anise taste and how much they hated liquorice. Seriously? You buy a $70 bottle of absinthe knowing that it tastes like liquorice and you hate liquorice?
"well, I don't want to play on this server because of blah blah blah. I've never played here but I am an incredibly discerning person and I just *know* I would hate it"

Perhaps you should look into a different game like habbo hotel or something.

[girth]

Hello all,

I've been lurking P1999 forums for some time considering whether I want to play here or not. After years at the other classic project forums waiting for their project to release, I found P1999 on a thread there and starting looking into this server.

I've always been skeptical of emulation servers for mmorpgs because I've never felt there is as much security involved in the investment of time. Remembering how much time I spent back in 1999 leveling up/playing my character, I thought I should be cautious before investing time here. I think my lurking here paid off in this respect.

From what I gather about this server from threads on every board, I figured the best place to write this would be here since anything negative on the server, regardless of what is expressed, seems to end up here anyways.

This is a composition of observations that I've developed from reading about what goes on on this server on the forums. I write this so that others may get a better idea from my experiences.

A few main reasons I've decided not to play on P1999:

1. I used to love EC tunnel back in P1999 so I decided to check out how healthy the economy is on this server on the forums. I was disappointed to find such a large array of characters being sold for plat; even this guy named Bob who levels up your character from 1-50 for plat. You see, back in 1999 people actually cared about their character, it wasn't just some commodity that was traded around freely. I know from the many hours I put into my character back then I wouldn't let it go for the world - it was me in an imaginary world. Here, it seems that characters, especially end-game characters, have no connection with the player controlling them. That was very disappointing for me to see and totally destroys the classic-environment of the game for me.

2. From what I gather concerning GM decisions, I see that many people are punished without any indication, proof, or formal explanation past "we know it from our logs" for the punishment. There doesn't seem to be many immediate punishments either - just ban forever. What is most troublesome to me is that reading through some of these posts of peoples' experiences it seems possible that there was an error in judgment when issuing punishment. Instead, they are just told "you cheated", then mercilessly ridiculed. This sort of environment actually make me afraid to play for fear I'll do something wrong and be banned without ever knowing what I did wrong. The worst part is it seems a majority of the player-base trusts the GM decisions entirely even when no proof is available to them, which, I don't know about anybody else, seems very odd to me.

3. It seems to be that power-gaming is the norm here with a rush to the top the goal for many people. I conclude this based off the general interest on the forums in choosing "the most needed classes", "best leveling spots", "best farm spots", account selling, and the number of top-end guilds recruiting 46+ in comparison to the server population. From what I read from guild drama, the end game raiding is basically poop-socking, kill stealing, and feuding over interpretation of the rules - with the GMs supposedly playing sides. Aside from raiding, endgame seems to be all about farming items and plat. If this was the experience of you all back in 1999 then I feel very, very bad and sorry...for you all. For the reasons I've mentioned, this server really doesn't seem any better or worse then the typical WoW server, which I find very disappointing.

4. People seem not to genuinely enjoy the fact that the game is social. Instead, they seem to enjoy doing only that which benefits themselves, and comparing their worth based on the gear they've accumulated on their character. I feel this is the modern mmorpg mindset, something people here proclaim to dislike yet can't avoid themselves. In saying this, I find it hard to believe in the poll on the main page that near 60% of you played back during classic era. The environment of the game was very different then from the attitudes expressed here on the forums. I guess I asked myself at that point, why should somebody want to play a 10 year old game with outdated graphics when the social environment is no different then any modern mmorpgs?

Everquest in 1999 was a different world from what P1999 is today. In my opinion, it's not about the game you play or the world that you inhabit, but the people you play with that makes a mmorpg worth playing. It seems many people here don't share that sentiment. Combined with my observation of how the server is run and the rampant selling of characters, I feel P1999 would just be a letdown.

I hope you all enjoy playing the type of game P199 is. I just don't think it is for me.

Thanks,
Roger

http://thesportsclown.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/who-cares.jpg

Thanks,
Girth

[Ravun]

^ lol couldn't have done it better myself...
Though there may be some seed of truth to some of your observations, I do believe you are selling yourself sort by just experiencing the forums. As it has been stated multiple times above, most of the server population does not even bother with these forums. I, for one, didn't start reading/posting here until I had been playing on P99 for several months. My experience in the beginning with the sever was just as good, if not better, then when I started playing eqlive, and it still continues to be very good. Instead of continually reading the ec tunnel/ R&F forums you should have just created a character and began playing-you probably would have been very pleased with the server from that perspective.

[Stunnah]

While I acknowledge your use of the word "citizen" in your forum name... apparenly you're not...

I don't post here much at all either, but if you're not willing to play on and enjoy this server I dont' see why you're willing to bash it. Thank you for your post, move along now.

Well put :)

[nilbog]

*Coddles you as we approach the entrance of free-to-play mountain.*

I glance in your direction and motion ahead. "We have arrived," I say. "I sense you may have concerns about what may lie within. Beyond these gates dwells a collection of big bad volunteers. I hear they do this as a hobby, and eagerly await opinions."

"Perhaps you should just hang around the gates for a while," I continue. "Those whom who have been evicted surely have the best opinions."

How wise you are not to make your own decisions. That's better left to the RPGs.

[Villide]

*Coddles you as we approach the entrance of free-to-play mountain.*

I glance in your direction and motion ahead. "We have arrived," I say. "I sense you may have concerns about what may lie within. Beyond these gates dwells a collection of big bad volunteers. I hear they do this as a hobby, and eagerly await opinions."

"Perhaps you should just hang around the gates for a while," I continue. "Those whom who have been evicted surely have the best opinions."

How wise you are not to make your own decisions. That's better left to the RPGs.




BUT WHAT IF IT'S NOT EVERYTHING I WANT IT TO BE?? WHAT THEN DAMMIT?

OH CRUEL FATES!!

[vinx]

Remembering how much time I spent back in 1999 leveling up/playing my character, I thought I should be cautious before investing time here.

Really? any time you invest here or any MMO for that matter will be time lost.

you havent even given the server a chance, or at least given yourself a chance to enjoy what you like about the game
nobody said you need to get 50 and be planar. play how you want and meet some people in the old EQ environment if thats what you are looking for, if not theres really nothing out there thats going to be much different.
and im guessing thats the stage your in right now, your searching but you cant find anything.
no need to flame the server for your lack of enthusiasm.



This is a composition of observations that I've developed from reading about what goes on on this server on the forums. I write this so that others may get a better idea from my experiences.

Everquest in 1999 was a different world from what P1999 is today. In my opinion, it's not about the game you play or the world that you inhabit, but the people you play with that makes a mmorpg worth playing. It seems many people here don't share that sentiment. Combined with my observation of how the server is run and the rampant selling of characters, I feel P1999 would just be a letdown.

/bye EQC Dev

[Phildorex]

Concerned citizen,

I think you misspelled your name. It should have been "Concern troll"

[Ongbak]

http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/posts/givedamn.gif

[Pico]

here is a comprehensive list of reasons why i have chosen not to play your free server, good day

[Rahnza]

1. I used to love EC tunnel back in P1999 so I decided to check out how healthy the economy is on this server on the forums. I was disappointed to find such a large array of characters being sold for plat; even this guy named Bob who levels up your character from 1-50 for plat. You see, back in 1999 people actually cared about their character, it wasn't just some commodity that was traded around freely. I know from the many hours I put into my character back then I wouldn't let it go for the world - it was me in an imaginary world. Here, it seems that characters, especially end-game characters, have no connection with the player controlling them. That was very disappointing for me to see and totally destroys the classic-environment of the game for me.

Characters were traded and sold back in classic too, it's just made easier here due to centralized forums. The vast majority of people you play with here have leveled their own char, so who cares.

2. From what I gather concerning GM decisions, I see that many people are punished without any indication, proof, or formal explanation past "we know it from our logs" for the punishment. There doesn't seem to be many immediate punishments either - just ban forever. What is most troublesome to me is that reading through some of these posts of peoples' experiences it seems possible that there was an error in judgment when issuing punishment. Instead, they are just told "you cheated", then mercilessly ridiculed. This sort of environment actually make me afraid to play for fear I'll do something wrong and be banned without ever knowing what I did wrong. The worst part is it seems a majority of the player-base trusts the GM decisions entirely even when no proof is available to them, which, I don't know about anybody else, seems very odd to me.

Valid. Just stay under the radar and don't challenge anything and you'll be fine.

3. It seems to be that power-gaming is the norm here with a rush to the top the goal for many people. I conclude this based off the general interest on the forums in choosing "the most needed classes", "best leveling spots", "best farm spots", account selling, and the number of top-end guilds recruiting 46+ in comparison to the server population. From what I read from guild drama, the end game raiding is basically poop-socking, kill stealing, and feuding over interpretation of the rules - with the GMs supposedly playing sides. Aside from raiding, endgame seems to be all about farming items and plat. If this was the experience of you all back in 1999 then I feel very, very bad and sorry...for you all. For the reasons I've mentioned, this server really doesn't seem any better or worse then the typical WoW server, which I find very disappointing.

If this isn't your playstyle, why does it matter if others are doing this? There's still a huge player base of casual players leveling up 1-50.

4. People seem not to genuinely enjoy the fact that the game is social. Instead, they seem to enjoy doing only that which benefits themselves, and comparing their worth based on the gear they've accumulated on their character. I feel this is the modern mmorpg mindset, something people here proclaim to dislike yet can't avoid themselves. In saying this, I find it hard to believe in the poll on the main page that near 60% of you played back during classic era. The environment of the game was very different then from the attitudes expressed here on the forums. I guess I asked myself at that point, why should somebody want to play a 10 year old game with outdated graphics when the social environment is no different then any modern mmorpgs?

Not sure what you're talking about here buddy.

[Itchybottom]

3. It seems to be that power-gaming is the norm here with a rush to the top the goal for many people. I conclude this based off the general interest on the forums in choosing "the most needed classes", "best leveling spots", "best farm spots", account selling, and the number of top-end guilds recruiting 46+ in comparison to the server population. From what I read from guild drama, the end game raiding is basically poop-socking, kill stealing, and feuding over interpretation of the rules - with the GMs supposedly playing sides. Aside from raiding, endgame seems to be all about farming items and plat. If this was the experience of you all back in 1999 then I feel very, very bad and sorry...for you all. For the reasons I've mentioned, this server really doesn't seem any better or worse then the typical WoW server, which I find very disappointing.

Any MMO is like this. The only time it's not, is when you ignore the crowd and only level with 2 or 3 people.

4. People seem not to genuinely enjoy the fact that the game is social. Instead, they seem to enjoy doing only that which benefits themselves, and comparing their worth based on the gear they've accumulated on their character. I feel this is the modern mmorpg mindset, something people here proclaim to dislike yet can't avoid themselves. In saying this, I find it hard to believe in the poll on the main page that near 60% of you played back during classic era. The environment of the game was very different then from the attitudes expressed here on the forums. I guess I asked myself at that point, why should somebody want to play a 10 year old game with outdated graphics when the social environment is no different then any modern mmorpgs?

Again... any MMO. Just because your original participation in EverQuest somehow differed, I assure you this behavior is not new.

Everquest in 1999 was a different world from what P1999 is today. In my opinion, it's not about the game you play or the world that you inhabit, but the people you play with that makes a mmorpg worth playing. It seems many people here don't share that sentiment. Combined with my observation of how the server is run and the rampant selling of characters, I feel P1999 would just be a letdown.

Selling characters cut into live profits, which is why it was against the rules. People could buy the game and use the "friend trial number" and powerlevel two characters straight to 50, and then turn around and resell the numbers with the accounts attached at profit. Customer service was also pummeled by this non-sense at Sony-Verant, due to people socially engineering the account they just sold back. Donations made here aren't really profit, there is no business model, nor are their paid support (which is why you'll see so many grumpy, egotistical, high-horsed fuckwits involved in the staff on private servers)

You should really just log in and play until level 10, and leave based on that experience. You might make some friends and get the game you wanted by ignoring others.

[YendorLootmonkey]

*Coddles you as we approach the entrance of free-to-play mountain.*

I glance in your direction and motion ahead. "We have arrived," I say. "I sense you may have concerns about what may lie within. Beyond these gates dwells a collection of big bad volunteers. I hear they do this as a hobby, and eagerly await opinions."

"Perhaps you should just hang around the gates for a while," I continue. "Those whom who have been evicted surely have the best opinions."


> go north

[Wizerud]

Maybe you shoulda just tried it first before jumping to conclusions on what the server is like.

[Yam]

Maybe you shoulda just tried it first before jumping to conclusions on what the server is like.

Well that would just be silly!

[Hasbinbad]

http://blogs.smarter.com/blogs/guests/hippie.jpg
http://www.southparkstuff.com/images/stories/epiimgs/epi902/epi902img07.jpg

[mimixownzall]

Any moron who spends such a huge amount of time doing all this 'research' instead of just joining the server and spending that same amount of time leveling up and seeing how everything is, is welcomed to not join in the first place.

You will not be missed.

[Spud]

*Coddles you as we approach the entrance of free-to-play mountain.*

I glance in your direction and motion ahead. "We have arrived," I say. "I sense you may have concerns about what may lie within. Beyond these gates dwells a collection of big bad volunteers. I hear they do this as a hobby, and eagerly await opinions."

"Perhaps you should just hang around the gates for a while," I continue. "Those whom who have been evicted surely have the best opinions."

How wise you are not to make your own decisions. That's better left to the RPGs.




quoted for truth...

[Bodeanicus]

Any moron who spends such a huge amount of time doing all this 'research' instead of just joining the server and spending that same amount of time leveling up and seeing how everything is, is welcomed to not join in the first place.

You will not be missed.

No one give a fuck about you either, sweetcheeks.

[Icecometus]

*Coddles you as we approach the entrance of free-to-play mountain.*

I glance in your direction and motion ahead. "We have arrived," I say. "I sense you may have concerns about what may lie within. Beyond these gates dwells a collection of big bad volunteers. I hear they do this as a hobby, and eagerly await opinions."

"Perhaps you should just hang around the gates for a while," I continue. "Those whom who have been evicted surely have the best opinions."

How wise you are not to make your own decisions. That's better left to the RPGs.




this is truly my favorite thing i have read on these forums.

[Nedala]

Dude you built your opinion on bunch of whiney and nerdraging forum users, which is a small part of the community. Im actually glad GMs DO care here about cheating fags unlike SoE did. And of course there will be much QQing from people who were banned and they will think its not fair. If you seriously get banned for something that wasnt your fault you can speak about it in a normal manner to the GMs and im sure something can be done, if you dont go to R&F and act like Raren or Abacab.


And theres a lot of people who enjoy their way up to 50 without any rush.

[Trapp]

Lol wooot, people seriously believe this was a random person that accidentially stumbled upon our forums and decided to write a novel :)

Oh and Nilbog, if you get free time in the future, write a book! that stuff was awsome.

[Omnimorph]

This clearly is an attempt at trolling. Why would someone spend months looking at a forum about a game when they could easily have just logged into the game to check it out. Then decide to tell everyone it's "not for them".

[Bodeanicus]

This clearly is an attempt at trolling. Why would someone spend months looking at a forum about a game when they could easily have just logged into the game to check it out. Then decide to tell everyone it's "not for them".

Exactly.

[Rahnza]

Lol wooot, people seriously believe this was a random person that accidentially stumbled upon our forums and decided to write a novel :)

People are weird.

[fastboy21]

I agree with most other folks in this thread...the easiest way to get a good understanding of the server is to make a char and log in for a few hours, not reading the boards.

this server, despite some of the things you point out, actually has avoided some of the pit falls that existed on live: there is no allowed botting here (creating a more social environment imo), there is no RMT (no selling of plat for real $).

obviously, the people on the forums complaining of bans make a huge splash here because it is the only place they can. in truth, they are an extreme minority of the population.

i've never had a single friend banned for any reason, and the only people I know that were banned have admitted to me that they were actually doing whatever they were banned for.

just like on live there are power gamers, and social gamers. a lot depends on what guild you decide to join (just like on live). The imagined past that so many EQ players have is that there were no power gamers or guilds back on live in 1999, and this is just not true. From the very beginning you had folks that were power gamers and in uber guilds...its just that in 1999 that language just didn't exist to describe it yet (in many ways, EQ invented the notions of raiding, uber, etc.)---but the mindset was there from the beginning.

there are tons and tons and tons of good people here who are social gamers. some of them even raid casually if that is what you are into. HUGE mistake to judge the real 1999 community here by just reading the forums.

[Scrooge]

I predict, this thread will not die!

[Jenithia]

Show us your tits!

[mimixownzall]

No one give a fuck about you either, sweetcheeks.

1/10

[Yak]

Make a character and play on the fucking server!!!! In most MMO's only about 10% or so post on the forums. Looking at the forums will give you no clue what the server is like. Stop being lazy and play and find out for your self. You will find a really great community of players!!!

[nosebleed]

Nostalgiafag.

[concerned_citizen]

Wow. Just wow. I'm really glad I posted this. I guess I was right about how the server behaves. Especially nilbog's response. If this is what I'm to encounter on this server, why bother?

[Raylan]

after having read your post thoroughly, might I suggest trying the VZTZ Emulated server? It seems like their player base might be better suited to your style.

cheers,

I didnt see anything in there about him liking to dupe/hack...

[Kassel]

Wow. Just wow. I'm really glad I posted this. I guess I was right about how the server behaves. Especially nilbog's response. If this is what I'm to encounter on this server, why bother?

Don't bother !

The server is way overcrowded with people having a great time.

[Mise]

Hello all,

I've been lurking P1999 forums for some time considering whether I want to play here or not. After years at the other classic project forums waiting for their project to release, I found P1999 on a thread there and starting looking into this server.

I've always been skeptical of emulation servers for mmorpgs because I've never felt there is as much security involved in the investment of time. Remembering how much time I spent back in 1999 leveling up/playing my character, I thought I should be cautious before investing time here. I think my lurking here paid off in this respect.

From what I gather about this server from threads on every board, I figured the best place to write this would be here since anything negative on the server, regardless of what is expressed, seems to end up here anyways.

This is a composition of observations that I've developed from reading about what goes on on this server on the forums. I write this so that others may get a better idea from my experiences.

A few main reasons I've decided not to play on P1999:

1. I used to love EC tunnel back in P1999 so I decided to check out how healthy the economy is on this server on the forums. I was disappointed to find such a large array of characters being sold for plat; even this guy named Bob who levels up your character from 1-50 for plat. You see, back in 1999 people actually cared about their character, it wasn't just some commodity that was traded around freely. I know from the many hours I put into my character back then I wouldn't let it go for the world - it was me in an imaginary world. Here, it seems that characters, especially end-game characters, have no connection with the player controlling them. That was very disappointing for me to see and totally destroys the classic-environment of the game for me.

2. From what I gather concerning GM decisions, I see that many people are punished without any indication, proof, or formal explanation past "we know it from our logs" for the punishment. There doesn't seem to be many immediate punishments either - just ban forever. What is most troublesome to me is that reading through some of these posts of peoples' experiences it seems possible that there was an error in judgment when issuing punishment. Instead, they are just told "you cheated", then mercilessly ridiculed. This sort of environment actually make me afraid to play for fear I'll do something wrong and be banned without ever knowing what I did wrong. The worst part is it seems a majority of the player-base trusts the GM decisions entirely even when no proof is available to them, which, I don't know about anybody else, seems very odd to me.

3. It seems to be that power-gaming is the norm here with a rush to the top the goal for many people. I conclude this based off the general interest on the forums in choosing "the most needed classes", "best leveling spots", "best farm spots", account selling, and the number of top-end guilds recruiting 46+ in comparison to the server population. From what I read from guild drama, the end game raiding is basically poop-socking, kill stealing, and feuding over interpretation of the rules - with the GMs supposedly playing sides. Aside from raiding, endgame seems to be all about farming items and plat. If this was the experience of you all back in 1999 then I feel very, very bad and sorry...for you all. For the reasons I've mentioned, this server really doesn't seem any better or worse then the typical WoW server, which I find very disappointing.

4. People seem not to genuinely enjoy the fact that the game is social. Instead, they seem to enjoy doing only that which benefits themselves, and comparing their worth based on the gear they've accumulated on their character. I feel this is the modern mmorpg mindset, something people here proclaim to dislike yet can't avoid themselves. In saying this, I find it hard to believe in the poll on the main page that near 60% of you played back during classic era. The environment of the game was very different then from the attitudes expressed here on the forums. I guess I asked myself at that point, why should somebody want to play a 10 year old game with outdated graphics when the social environment is no different then any modern mmorpgs?

Everquest in 1999 was a different world from what P1999 is today. In my opinion, it's not about the game you play or the world that you inhabit, but the people you play with that makes a mmorpg worth playing. It seems many people here don't share that sentiment. Combined with my observation of how the server is run and the rampant selling of characters, I feel P1999 would just be a letdown.

I hope you all enjoy playing the type of game P199 is. I just don't think it is for me.

Thanks,
Roger

Seems you didn't actually play much in 1999, or are just trollin. Everything in your list happened all the time, from accounts/plat being bought and sold over eBay to the perma camping, raid target contesting, anti-social mentality. I'm sure you'd like to look back at the game with rose colored glasses, but from my experience it's barely any different than the original.

Also, you might want to actually take the small amount of time to download and try out the game instead of basing your decision entirely on forum lurking. Forums are generally home to the dregs of any MMO society, and while they can give you an idea of the worst you can expect from the game, you'll have almost no idea of any good things it has to offer.

[Rangerboy]

man, you are mislead. A lot of the threads on here arent true. The population is VERY nice, and help you. The GMs are nice too, they help you out almost instantly. If you were to get banned, you will know the reason before it happens. When I read these forums before playing P99, I was kind of scard too. The server is a good server.

[Exxon]

Hello all,
3. It seems to be that power-gaming is the norm here with a rush to the top the goal for many people. I conclude this based off the general interest on the forums in choosing "the most needed classes", "best leveling spots", "best farm spots", account selling, and the number of top-end guilds recruiting 46+ in comparison to the server population. From what I read from guild drama, the end game raiding is basically poop-socking, kill stealing, and feuding over interpretation of the rules - with the GMs supposedly playing sides. Aside from raiding, endgame seems to be all about farming items and plat. If this was the experience of you all back in 1999 then I feel very, very bad and sorry...for you all. For the reasons I've mentioned, this server really doesn't seem any better or worse then the typical WoW server, which I find very disappointing.
4. People seem not to genuinely enjoy the fact that the game is social. Instead, they seem to enjoy doing only that which benefits themselves, and comparing their worth based on the gear they've accumulated on their character. I feel this is the modern mmorpg mindset, something people here proclaim to dislike yet can't avoid themselves. In saying this, I find it hard to believe in the poll on the main page that near 60% of you played back during classic era. The environment of the game was very different then from the attitudes expressed here on the forums. I guess I asked myself at that point, why should somebody want to play a 10 year old game with outdated graphics when the social environment is no different then any modern mmorpgs?

Everquest in 1999 was a different world from what P1999 is today. In my opinion, it's not about the game you play or the world that you inhabit, but the people you play with that makes a mmorpg worth playing. It seems many people here don't share that sentiment.
Well hello there sir, welcome to the new gaming generation.

[Winobot]

Try playing the game, not making assumptions based on forums posts.

[Messianic]

Try playing the game, not making assumptions based on forums posts.

But that requires me to actually know what the hell I'm talking about

[nilbog]

Wow. Just wow. I'm really glad I posted this. I guess I was right about how the server behaves. Especially nilbog's response. If this is what I'm to encounter on this server, why bother?

Could you provide me with a link of something that you do for others? So I may critique it?

Unless you're afraid of my opinion.

[thefloydian]

The stupidest part about this post is that all OP's complaints were always a huge part of Everquest.

[Throb]

Yep, except in 1999 and on, EverQuest characters and items were being sold for real U.S. currency, not virtual platinum pieces. I'm thinking this douche never played EQ to begin with.

[Massive Marc]

Wow. Just wow. I'm really glad I posted this. I guess I was right about how the server behaves. Especially nilbog's response. If this is what I'm to encounter on this server, why bother?

Are you fucking serious ? You went and made a Thread claiming that this server isn't for you ( god knows why ? where you looking for someone to prove you wrong ? because everyone that posted pretty much did...)

Like WTF are you looking for ??? You have to be a fucking troll - and if your not - Thanks for deciding not to join this server... the last thing it needs is fucking retarded people with some sense of entitlement.

Come on guy, I'm at work trying to read something entertaining in R&F and you come up with this bullshit.

Fuck Trolls (unless your good)

MM

[Kassel]

I'm thinking this douche never played EQ to begin with.

I am thinking he plays(ed) on p99 becouse its really not possible to be this arrogant

[Timzilla]

I wish we knew you better so we could not give a shit properly.

[AexDestroy]

Just want to let you know that I read this and care.


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[Loke]

I highly doubt you'll read this whole post - but Nilbogs quote below totally reminded me of this story that I heard as a kid.

Could you provide me with a link of something that you do for others? So I may critique it?

Unless you're afraid of my opinion.

"I'm going to be something!" said the eldest of five brothers. "I'm going to be useful in the world, however humble a position I hold; if that which I'm doing is useful, that will be Something. I'll make bricks; people can't do without bricks, so at least I'll do Something."

"But something very unimportant," said the second brother. "What you'd be doing would be as good as nothing! That's a laborer's job and can be done by a machine. No, you'd better become a mason; that's really Something, and that's what I'm going to be. That is a position! Then you belong to a guild and become a citizen, have a banner of your own and your own quarters at the inn. Yes, and if things come out well I may get to be a master, and have workmen under me, and my wife will be known as the master's wife. That will be Something!"

"That's nothing at all," said the third. "Just think how many different classes there are in a town far above a master mason. You may be an honest man, but even as a master you'll only be what is called 'common.' No, I know Something better than that. I'll be an architect, will live among the thinkers, the artists; I'll raise myself up to the intellectual aristocracy. Of course, I may have to begin at the bottom; yes, I might as well say it - I will have to start as a carpenter's boy, wearing a cap, though I'm used to wearing a silk hat, and to fetch beer and spirits for the simple workmen, and listen to their insults. Of course, that's irritating, but I'll try to pretend it's only a masquerade. 'Tomorrow,' I'll say, 'when I'm a journeyman, I'll be on my own course, and I'll have nothing to do with the others.' Yes, I'll go to the academy, learn to draw, and get to be an architect. That is Something! That's a whole lot! I may even get a title - yes, have one placed before or after my name; and I shall build and build, as others have done before me. Yes, that's Something one can rely on; it's Something wholly worth while."

"But Something that I care nothing about," said the fourth. "I shouldn't care to travel on and on in the beaten track, to be only a copyist. I want to be a genius, cleverer than all of you put together. I want to create a new style, provide the idea for a building suitable to the climate and materials of our country, our national character, and the development of our age; besides, I want to build an extra floor for my own genius!"

"But suppose the climate and materials aren't good," said the fifth. "That will be very unfortunate, since they are of vital importance. As for our national character, to represent that in architecture would be sheer affectation, while the requirements of modern times may cause you to run wild, as youth frequently does. I can see that none of you will ever amount to anything, however much you yourselves think you will. But do as you like; I won't be like you. I shall consider what you do; there's something ridiculous in everything; I'll discover it, and it will be my business to expose it - that will be Something!"

He did as he promised; and people said of this fifth brother, "There's Something in him, certainly; he has plenty of brains, but he doesn't do anything!" But it was just that which made him Something.

This is only a little story, and yet as long as the world exists it will have no end.

But, then, did nothing more become of the five brothers? Listen further now, and you will hear the whole story.

The eldest brother, the brickmaker, found that every brick he made brought him in a small copper coin. It was only copper, but enough of these small copper coins added together could be changed into a bright dollar, and wherever he knocked with this - at the butcher's, the baker's, or the tailor's, yes, everywhere - the door flew open, and he was given what he wanted.

That was the virtue of his bricks. Of course, some of them crumbled or broke in two, but a use was found even for them. You see, old Mother Margaret wanted so much to build herself a little house up by the dike; so all the broken bricks were given to her, and even a few whole ones too, for though he was only a brickmaker, the eldest brother had a generous heart. The poor woman built her house with her own hands; it was very narrow; its one window was all lopsided; the door was too low, and the thatching might have been laid on the roof more skillfully, but it gave her shelter and a home and could be seen from far out at sea. The sea in all its power sometimes broke over the dike and sprinkled a salty shower over the little house, which still stood there years after he who made its bricks was dead and gone.

As for the second brother - yes, he could now build in a different fashion, as he had decided to learn. When he had served his apprenticeship, he buckled on his knapsack and started out on his travels, singing as he went. When he came back to his home town, he became a master mason there and built house after house, a whole street of houses. There they stood, looking very handsome and giving an air of dignity to the town; and these houses soon built him a little house for himself. But how can houses build a house? If you ask the houses they will give you no answer, but the people will reply, "Why, of course, the street built him his house!" It was not very large, and had only a clay floor, but when he and his young bride danced over it that floor became as smooth as if it had been polished, and from every stone in the wall sprung a flower, gay as the costliest tapestry. It was a charming house, and they were indeed a happily married couple. The banner of the Masons' Guild waved gaily outside, and workmen and apprentices shouted, "Hurray!" Yes indeed, that was Something! And at last he died - and that was Something, too!

Next comes the third brother, the architect. He had begun as a carpenter's apprentice, wearing a cap and running errands all over town; but from the academy, he had steadily risen to become a builder. If the street of houses had built a house for his brother the mason, the street took its very name from the architect; his was the handsomest house in the whole street - that was Something, and he was Something with a long title before and after his name. His children could boast of their "birth"; and when he died his widow was a lady of standing - that is Something - and his name was on the corner of the street as well as on everybody's lips - that is Something indeed!

Then comes the fourth brother, the genius who had wanted to invent something new and original and have an extra floor on top of that. But that floor gave way once beneath his feet, so that he fell and broke his neck. However, he had a splendid funeral, with music and banners, and flowery obituaries in the newspapers. Three eulogies were spoken over him, one longer than the other, and that would have pleased him, for he had so loved being talked about. Then a monument was erected over his grave - only one story high, but still that is Something!

So now he was dead, along with his three elder brothers. The youngest one, the critic, outlived them all, and that was quite proper, for it gave him the last word, which to him was a matter of great importance. "He has a good head on him," people said. But at last his hour came, too; he died, and his soul went to the gates of heaven. Souls always enter in couples, so there he stood beside another soul, old Mother Margaret from the house by the dike.

"I suppose it is for the sake of contrast that I and this miserable soul should come here at the same time," said the critic. "Well, now, my good woman," he asked, "who are you? Do you also want to go in there?"

The old woman curtsied as well as she could, thinking it was Saint Peter himself who spoke to her. "I am just a poor old soul with no family. Just old Margaret from the house near the dike."

"I see. And what have you done down below?"

"I have done really nothing in the world, nothing at all to warrant my being admitted here. It will be God's mercy, indeed, if I am allowed to pass through this gate."

It bored the critic to stand there waiting, so he felt he must talk about something. "And how did you leave the world?" he asked carelessly.

"How did I leave it? Well, I hardly know how; I was sick and miserable indeed in the last few years, and could hardly bear to creep out of bed at all in the cold and frosty weather. It has been a hard winter, but that's all past now. For a few days, as your reverence must know, the wind was quite still, but it was bitterly cold; the ice covered the water as far as you could see. Everybody in town was out on the ice, where there was what they called ski racing, and dancing, I think, with music, and entertainment. I could hear it where I lay in my poor room. And along toward evening the moon came up, but it still wasn't very bright. From my bed I looked through the window and saw a strange white cloud rising up over the sea. I lay there and watched it, watched the black spot in it grow bigger and bigger, and then I knew what it meant; you don't see that sign very often, but I was old and experienced. I knew it, and horror crept over me. Just twice before in my life had I seen that sign, and I knew it meant there would be a terrible storm and a flash flood; it would burst over the poor people who were drinking and dancing and making merry, out there on the ice. Young and old, the whole town was there; who could warn them, if no one saw the cloud or could recognize it as I could? I felt so terrified that it gave me more strength than I'd had in many years. I felt alive all over. I got out of bed and managed to get over to the window; I couldn't drag myself any farther, but I did get the window open; I could see the people dancing on the ice and the gaily colored flags, I could hear the boys shouting and the young men and women singing; all were so merry. But that white cloud with its black spot rose higher and higher. I screamed as loudly as I could, but they were all too far away to hear me. Soon the storm would break loose; the ice would be smashed into pieces, and all the people would be drowned! They could not hear me; I wasn't able to get out to them; how could I get them onto land? Then our Lord sent me the idea of setting fire to my bed; it would be better for my house to be burned to the ground than for so many people to meet a miserable death. So I made a light, and saw the red flame leap up! Somehow I got out of the door, but then I fell and lay there, for I could not rise again. But the flames burst out through the window and the roof; the people down below saw it and all ran as fast as they could to help me, the poor old woman they were afraid would be burned; there was not one who didn't come to my aid. I heard them come, but then, too, I heard a sudden roaring in the air, and then a thundering like the shots of heavy cannons; the flood was breaking up the ice, and it was all crumbling to pieces. However, the people had all come off the ice to the trenches, where the sparks were flying about me; I had saved all of them. But I couldn't stand the cold and the fright, and so I came up here to the gates of heaven. Do you think they can be opened to such a wretched old creature as I? I have no little house now by the dike, though I guess that fact will not gain me admission here.

Then the heavenly gates opened, and the Angel bade poor old Margaret to enter. As she crossed the threshold she dropped a straw, one of the straws from the bed she had set afire to save the people on the ice, and lo! it changed into the purest gold - gold that grew and twisted itself into the most beautiful shapes!

"See, this was brought by the poor woman," said the Angel. "Now what do you bring? Yes, I know full well that you have made nothing, not even bricks. If only you could go back and return here with at least one brick, not that it would be good for anything when you had made it, but because anything, the very last thing, if done with a kindly heart, is Something. But you cannot return, and I can do nothing for you."

Then the poor soul, the old woman from the hut by the dike, spoke up for him. "His brother gave me all the bricks and broken pieces I used to build my miserable shack - that was great generosity to a poor old soul like me. Cannot all those bits and pieces, put together, be considered one brick for him? It would be and act of mercy; he needs mercy, and this is the very home of mercy."

"Your brother, he whom you called the humblest," said the Angel, "he whose honest labor seemed to you the lowliest, sends you this heavenly gift. You shall not be turned away, but shall be permitted to stand here outside and consider your manner of life below. But you shall not enter, not before you have done a good deed and thereby accomplished - Something!"

"I could have said that much better," thought the critic, but he didn't say it out loud. And for him that was already - Something!

[Yak]

Wow. Just wow. I'm really glad I posted this. I guess I was right about how the server behaves. Especially nilbog's response. If this is what I'm to encounter on this server, why bother?

Trust me as a community we are better off with out you! Do us a favor and don't bother to play on this server! I think that his MMO, http://www.hellokittyonline.com (http://www.hellokittyonline.com/) is more your speed!

[Labyrrinth]

story...

I read the whole thing and thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you!

[Yak]

I just finished the story and that was long but very enjoyable to read!

[Nakara]

itt people get trolled, hard

[Japan]

2/3 of the way through that story i realized how vulnerable i had become to being bel-aired and skipped to the end.

[Stibe]

You are a complete fucking moron is you based all of this on the forums alone.

Let me rip your argument apart.

1. People sold their characters for real-life money on live. So all that shit by you? void.

2. It's their server, not yours. If you dont cheat, you dont get banned. If you are not an asshat, you dont get banned. If they start explaining how people were cheating or what they did to catch them, people will start to figure out ways around that. Just like on live.

3. You can level up as slowly as you like. p99 has ALOT of casual players. And did you ever actually PLAY the origonal EQ? This server has been up for over a year now. Of course there is competition for raid mobs.

4. Again, you're making judgements without even PLAYING the game. Had you given it a shot, instead of just making assumptions off what you saw on an internet forum, you would find that your argument is entirely fucking retarded.

[zenoo]

OP=A troll in state of denial, Look Shrek all those words you learned at school don't change the fact that you just started this thread to get attention.

[Uthgaard]

Shrek is an ogre

[Swishahouse]

Perhaps you should look into a different game like habbo hotel or something.


I actually have a really good game up that is way more his speed. No fighting, no levels, no drama, and ANYTHING GOES (i mean anything). ^^



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[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Hello all,

I've been lurking P1999 forums for some time considering whether I want to play here or not. After years at the other classic project forums waiting for their project to release, I found P1999 on a thread there and starting looking into this server.

I've always been skeptical of emulation servers for mmorpgs because I've never felt there is as much security involved in the investment of time. Remembering how much time I spent back in 1999 leveling up/playing my character, I thought I should be cautious before investing time here. I think my lurking here paid off in this respect.

From what I gather about this server from threads on every board, I figured the best place to write this would be here since anything negative on the server, regardless of what is expressed, seems to end up here anyways.

This is a composition of observations that I've developed from reading about what goes on on this server on the forums. I write this so that others may get a better idea from my experiences.

A few main reasons I've decided not to play on P1999:

1. I used to love EC tunnel back in P1999 so I decided to check out how healthy the economy is on this server on the forums. I was disappointed to find such a large array of characters being sold for plat; even this guy named Bob who levels up your character from 1-50 for plat. You see, back in 1999 people actually cared about their character, it wasn't just some commodity that was traded around freely. I know from the many hours I put into my character back then I wouldn't let it go for the world - it was me in an imaginary world. Here, it seems that characters, especially end-game characters, have no connection with the player controlling them. That was very disappointing for me to see and totally destroys the classic-environment of the game for me.

2. From what I gather concerning GM decisions, I see that many people are punished without any indication, proof, or formal explanation past "we know it from our logs" for the punishment. There doesn't seem to be many immediate punishments either - just ban forever. What is most troublesome to me is that reading through some of these posts of peoples' experiences it seems possible that there was an error in judgment when issuing punishment. Instead, they are just told "you cheated", then mercilessly ridiculed. This sort of environment actually make me afraid to play for fear I'll do something wrong and be banned without ever knowing what I did wrong. The worst part is it seems a majority of the player-base trusts the GM decisions entirely even when no proof is available to them, which, I don't know about anybody else, seems very odd to me.

3. It seems to be that power-gaming is the norm here with a rush to the top the goal for many people. I conclude this based off the general interest on the forums in choosing "the most needed classes", "best leveling spots", "best farm spots", account selling, and the number of top-end guilds recruiting 46+ in comparison to the server population. From what I read from guild drama, the end game raiding is basically poop-socking, kill stealing, and feuding over interpretation of the rules - with the GMs supposedly playing sides. Aside from raiding, endgame seems to be all about farming items and plat. If this was the experience of you all back in 1999 then I feel very, very bad and sorry...for you all. For the reasons I've mentioned, this server really doesn't seem any better or worse then the typical WoW server, which I find very disappointing.

4. People seem not to genuinely enjoy the fact that the game is social. Instead, they seem to enjoy doing only that which benefits themselves, and comparing their worth based on the gear they've accumulated on their character. I feel this is the modern mmorpg mindset, something people here proclaim to dislike yet can't avoid themselves. In saying this, I find it hard to believe in the poll on the main page that near 60% of you played back during classic era. The environment of the game was very different then from the attitudes expressed here on the forums. I guess I asked myself at that point, why should somebody want to play a 10 year old game with outdated graphics when the social environment is no different then any modern mmorpgs?

Everquest in 1999 was a different world from what P1999 is today. In my opinion, it's not about the game you play or the world that you inhabit, but the people you play with that makes a mmorpg worth playing. It seems many people here don't share that sentiment. Combined with my observation of how the server is run and the rampant selling of characters, I feel P1999 would just be a letdown.

I hope you all enjoy playing the type of game P199 is. I just don't think it is for me.

Thanks,
Roger

Point 1. Agree
Point 2. Don't think so
Point 3. Agree
Point 4. Agree

Don't worry dude. The poopsocking, pasty-skinned, fat-ass douche bags on this forum accuse ANYONE that does not agree with them of trolling. I think you have valid points and if you don't want to play here then that is up to you.

[jim454ss]

Give it a try for a week, then decide, that's fair...

[Phallax]

Hello all,

I've been lurking P1999 forums for some time considering whether I want to play here or not. After years at the other classic project forums waiting for their project to release, I found P1999 on a thread there and starting looking into this server.

I've always been skeptical of emulation servers for mmorpgs because I've never felt there is as much security involved in the investment of time. Remembering how much time I spent back in 1999 leveling up/playing my character, I thought I should be cautious before investing time here. I think my lurking here paid off in this respect.

From what I gather about this server from threads on every board, I figured the best place to write this would be here since anything negative on the server, regardless of what is expressed, seems to end up here anyways.

This is a composition of observations that I've developed from reading about what goes on on this server on the forums. I write this so that others may get a better idea from my experiences.

A few main reasons I've decided not to play on P1999:

1. I used to love EC tunnel back in P1999 so I decided to check out how healthy the economy is on this server on the forums. I was disappointed to find such a large array of characters being sold for plat; even this guy named Bob who levels up your character from 1-50 for plat. You see, back in 1999 people actually cared about their character, it wasn't just some commodity that was traded around freely. I know from the many hours I put into my character back then I wouldn't let it go for the world - it was me in an imaginary world. Here, it seems that characters, especially end-game characters, have no connection with the player controlling them. That was very disappointing for me to see and totally destroys the classic-environment of the game for me.

2. From what I gather concerning GM decisions, I see that many people are punished without any indication, proof, or formal explanation past "we know it from our logs" for the punishment. There doesn't seem to be many immediate punishments either - just ban forever. What is most troublesome to me is that reading through some of these posts of peoples' experiences it seems possible that there was an error in judgment when issuing punishment. Instead, they are just told "you cheated", then mercilessly ridiculed. This sort of environment actually make me afraid to play for fear I'll do something wrong and be banned without ever knowing what I did wrong. The worst part is it seems a majority of the player-base trusts the GM decisions entirely even when no proof is available to them, which, I don't know about anybody else, seems very odd to me.

3. It seems to be that power-gaming is the norm here with a rush to the top the goal for many people. I conclude this based off the general interest on the forums in choosing "the most needed classes", "best leveling spots", "best farm spots", account selling, and the number of top-end guilds recruiting 46+ in comparison to the server population. From what I read from guild drama, the end game raiding is basically poop-socking, kill stealing, and feuding over interpretation of the rules - with the GMs supposedly playing sides. Aside from raiding, endgame seems to be all about farming items and plat. If this was the experience of you all back in 1999 then I feel very, very bad and sorry...for you all. For the reasons I've mentioned, this server really doesn't seem any better or worse then the typical WoW server, which I find very disappointing.

4. People seem not to genuinely enjoy the fact that the game is social. Instead, they seem to enjoy doing only that which benefits themselves, and comparing their worth based on the gear they've accumulated on their character. I feel this is the modern mmorpg mindset, something people here proclaim to dislike yet can't avoid themselves. In saying this, I find it hard to believe in the poll on the main page that near 60% of you played back during classic era. The environment of the game was very different then from the attitudes expressed here on the forums. I guess I asked myself at that point, why should somebody want to play a 10 year old game with outdated graphics when the social environment is no different then any modern mmorpgs?

Everquest in 1999 was a different world from what P1999 is today. In my opinion, it's not about the game you play or the world that you inhabit, but the people you play with that makes a mmorpg worth playing. It seems many people here don't share that sentiment. Combined with my observation of how the server is run and the rampant selling of characters, I feel P1999 would just be a letdown.

I hope you all enjoy playing the type of game P199 is. I just don't think it is for me.

Thanks,
Roger

sooo, on a scale of 1 to Chris Brown, how mad are you?