Sqwid - Wipes HS Group and Logs

[kjs86z]

I need to tell a little story.

/rant on

Some buddies of mine and I were forming up a Howling Stones North group. We consist of an enchanter, mage, paladin, and cleric...all pretty decently geared for not having much raid time.

We see this level 60 Shaman by the name of Sqwid at the SF Ramp in Overthere with a /lfg tag on. After a brief chat, he agrees to come along.

Heading out as 5, we get into the camp spot smooth as silk. Sqwid is very well geared, and contributing greatly to the group. The first 4 pack goes down easily and as I walked onto that room's carpet, I remind myself that these are typically trapped and proceed to /g "beware of the carpets if you don't have levi!"

Overlooking the ramp that leads down to the trapped carpet area, we proceed to clear everything but the far back room. Pace is lovely, spell scrolls are dropping, and we're all happy.

Twenty minutes later, Sqwid proceeds to randomly (unannounced) run down the ramp, onto the carpet, and falls through the floor. Now, keep in mind...at that very moment, our paladin was simply running up to the next pull @ 100% HP. The cleric, unaware of the shaman's "positional error," tried a Remedy. Sqwid successfully gated, and the train proceeds to wipe us up topside.

Shortly after the wipe, I say exactly this in group chat:
"why the fuck are you walking on carpets dude?"
"what would compel you to go down there?"

Sqwid immediately responds with:
"you want to hate"
"or want me to help"

Approximately three minutes later, my group decides we'll just buy some coffins and do corpse drags that way. It is announced in group chat. Immediately after, Sqwid leaves the group and is offline.

Currently we are trying to CR with very limited resources and not a whole lot of help available near the HS drop/entrance. It is assumed Sqwid has logged off and isn't coming back to help.

Was I wrong in what I said? Yeah, the F-bomb obviously didn't help anything...I get that. However, do those 17 words warrant someone ditching a group that desperately needs someone alive w/ their gear to assist with the CR?

The way I see it, this player is a child. If you can't take a bit of discontent after a totally bullshit, needless, braindead manuever that causes a troublesome wipe...well I suppose that's where we go our separate ways...just after we get everyone out of the shitty situation.

The bottom line is this dude is causing 4 others a whole bucket load of pain-in-the-ass EQ right now...and in my opinion he is ultimately responsible. Keep in mind, its not like our tank was off somewhere in a room rooted or dangerously low health. We had just finished a pack and the paladin was at 100% hp moving up towards the next pull.

/rant off

I don't know what guild this guy was in.

Also, if anyone can give us a hand w/ the CR I'll make it worth your while in Plat.

[Efwan]

Everquest.

[maskedmelon]

Way to build community OP.

[p99teabagz]

Cleric's fault for not paying attention and healing him w/ agro down there. Be better.

[quido]

I hope you die in game.

[kjs86z]

Cleric's fault for not paying attention and healing him w/ agro down there. Be better.

Aye. This was discussed as well amongst ourselves. It was a mistake, absolutely.

[kjs86z]

Lol it makes me laugh that you came here expecting sympathy



Glad I could brighten up your day!

[Pokesan]

Shortly after the wipe, I say exactly this in group chat:
"why the fuck are you walking on carpets dude?"
"what would compel you to go down there?"

Sqwid immediately responds with:
"you want to hate"
"or want me to help"



you're shithead and im gonna train you

cu soon kid, real soon

[kjs86z]

you're shithead and im gonna train you

cu soon kid, real soon

Cool.



Update: Wyntir the Preserver of <The Mystical Order> graciously facilitated a CR. I'm new to P99 and have only seen one other title before. This guy is a class act and a personification of what it means to hold such a title.

Thank you also to the BDA cleric, Izra, that provided the clicky.

Flame away, fellas.

[kjs86z]

edit: Wyntir also vehemently refused proper compensation for his efforts...talk about a good guy!

[mr_jon3s]

The shaman did nothing wrong. He fell through the carpet and gated. The cleric really didn't do anything wrong either. He saw the shaman take some damage and tossed him a heal. The only person in the wrong here was you. People make mistakes and it doesn't help anyone by yelling at them.

[Swish]

Who'd have thought?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61715

[kjs86z]

The shaman did nothing wrong. He fell through the carpet and gated. The cleric really didn't do anything wrong either. He saw the shaman take some damage and tossed him a heal. The only person in the wrong here was you. People make mistakes and it doesn't help anyone by yelling at them.

Except you forgot the parts about having an established camp, warning about carpets in /g less than 10 minutes prior, and the shaman having no logical reason at all to travel down the ramp and fall through. It's not like this guy was a level 50 that just got his key. He's a 60 epic shaman that is geared to the tits...the "simple error" argument doesn't float here.

People make mistakes, clearly I did with the use of a F-bomb and a call-out. The point is...as a new player, I've screwed up royally. There are some folks that leveled up with me through the major grouping zones that have been the victims of multiple bad charm breaks on sketchy pulls resulting in wipes. I'm the first to apologize and admit fault. I expect to take a bit of flak in stride while beating myself up just enough in learning from said mistakes.

The mentality ought to be to just do whatever you can to fix the shitty situation instead of running off and leaving other P99 players high and dry. We're a finite resource here, folks.

Regardless, my buddies are recovered and his corpse can sit in HS.

[kjs86z]

edit: "corpse can sit in HS the next time it goes down"

[quido]

Dear Diary,

[Raev]

This thread is pretty bad. Sure, poor Sqwid blundered and panicked. But your group didn't back him up. You could have simply told him not to gate: a 60 shaman with full raid buffs shouldn't actually have much trouble with a few basement skeletons. You could have asked the Magician to COH everyone. You could have jumped in to help mez things until the cleric camped, or rune the cleric and ivu somewhere to buy him more time. Instead you blamed him for everything and as soon as he realized your CR was OK he logged in disgust.

P.S. Next time you die in HS, you can frequently CR yourself by double invising someone to run through the basement and /corpsing from there. It doesn't always work, but it probably would have in this case.

[Pokesan]

he made a mistake and you bergered out

nice thread OP

[Pokesan]

like how do you get so mad about everquest that you go full crybaby on an internet forum from it

[jpetrick]

You could have had a fun time with this.

Some of my favorite times on this server have been the hilarity of an HS corpse run. You have it even easier now that rogues can go anywhere. Back in my day we had to break in naked with magician summoned swords while I beat up skeletons on my naked monk.

[iruinedyourday]

Sounds like norrath needs a TRUMP

[Cecily]

You could have had a fun time with this.

Some of my favorite times on this server have been the hilarity of an HS corpse run. You have it even easier now that rogues can go anywhere. Back in my day we had to break in naked with magician summoned swords while I beat up skeletons on my naked monk.
Naw goos still see rogues. Got killed by one on this CR :)

[maskedmelon]

The mentality ought to be to just do whatever you can to fix the shitty situation instead of calling people names running off to the forums to bitch about it.



FTFY.

[beyondinfin]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[Swish]

I for one am glad the OP shared this experience. I know to watch out for a guy who'll log out at the first sign of trouble.

The fact that it's a bought account says a lot to me. Lazy.

[LostCause]

all I got from that story is your cleric healed the shaman that fell down and got aggroed and wiped you and then you cried about how he fell down and you healed him and got agro and wiped group like a retard.

[Troxx]

The shaman did nothing wrong. He fell through the carpet and gated. The cleric really didn't do anything wrong either. He saw the shaman take some damage and tossed him a heal. The only person in the wrong here was you. People make mistakes and it doesn't help anyone by yelling at them.

The end.

[Troxx]

I for one am glad the OP shared this experience. I know to watch out for a guy who'll log out at the first sign of trouble.

The fact that it's a bought account says a lot to me. Lazy.


Yeah it looks like the account was sold 3-4 years ago at a time when selling accounts was legal.

[Spyder73]

Sounds like norrath needs a TRUMP

I propose that we build a wall around Howling Stones.

If the Sarnak and the undead have a problem with it, then guess what? The wall just got 10 ft taller and the Cactus are now going to pay for it themselves. I guess it was magic because their luck just ran out.

Make The Overthere great again – build the wall and let’s keep illegal Sarnaks out of OT. They are rapists and murderers. They are not sending us the Chardok royal family, they are sending us their felons and criminals.

#Make OT great again

[bomaroast]

Everquest.

Nah, this is p99.

[ridiculousmoose]

I just love the fact that it seems the shaman had gate loaded the whole time.

[indiscriminate_hater]

I generally have Gate up at all times, usually as insurance when playing with bad players

[Swish]

Always had gate in slot 8 on all my casters at all times... you never know!

[xKoopa]

Always had gate in slot 8 on all my casters at all times... you never know!

Same

Never unmem gate or FD

[Man0warr]

No room to keep it memmed on a enchanter.

[Kevris]

I propose that we build a wall around Howling Stones.

If the Sarnak and the undead have a problem with it, then guess what? The wall just got 10 ft taller and the Cactus are now going to pay for it themselves. I guess it was magic because their luck just ran out.

Make The Overthere great again – build the wall and let’s keep illegal Sarnaks out of OT. They are rapists and murderers. They are not sending us the Chardok royal family, they are sending us their felons and criminals.

#Make OT great again

God damned sarnaks takin r jerbs! Go on and built that wall!

[Danikz]

I for one am glad the OP shared this experience. I know to watch out for a guy who'll log out at the first sign of trouble.

Agreed.

[Hoozi]

I for one am glad the OP shared this experience. I know to watch out for a guy who'll log out at the first sign of trouble.

The fact that it's a bought account says a lot to me. Lazy.

Pretends he no longer plays on blue..... keeps list of people he wont group with on blue.

[Swish]

Pretends he no longer plays on blue..... keeps list of people he wont group with on blue.

never heard of you, you must be new?

[Pokesan]

never heard of you, you must be new?

perhaps he should post 14000 times to gain the respect of the community

[Swish]

perhaps he should post 14000 times to gain the respect of the community

It's hard to be a pillar of the community, the jealousy in people is saddening but I understand why it's there.

[Pokesan]

It's hard to be a pillar of the community, the jealousy in people is saddening but I understand why it's there.

woosh

[Cecily]

Never mem gate on my druid unless I wanna gate somewhere. I figure if I'm not good enough to CC what's on me, kinda deserve to die.

[central scrutinizer]

Mmo's are the most fun when shit goes sideways.

It's just a game, next time jump down to help, this is how you become better.


Situations like this is exactly why HS is fun.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Who'd have thought?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61715

boom goes the dynamite

[Swish]

Or open a reddit that is suppose to be free from censorship than close it down when you are offered the position of guide.

Hey Swish/Lland

Llandris has a terrible avatar, there's no way I'd be seen with that. Sorry.

[iruinedyourday]

Never mem gate on my druid unless I wanna gate somewhere. I figure if I'm not good enough to CC what's on me, kinda deserve to die.

I never have gate memed on blue. if you have gate memed on blue then you're a coward and not worthy of devling a dungeon with.

[Swish]

I never have gate memed on blue. if you have gate memed on blue then you're a coward and not worthy of devling a dungeon with.

True, Arch Shielding is a much better option.

[Spyder73]

I never have gate memed on blue. if you have gate memed on blue then you're a coward and not worthy of devling a dungeon with.

IRYD so hardcore - please enlighten us on how you are so good at EQ and how we should all on Banished99 pvp server or we are cucks.

[Swish]

IRYD so hardcore - please enlighten us on how you are so good at EQ and how we should all on Banished99 pvp server or we are cucks.

Still need him to tell me his red character's name.

[Spyder73]

Still need him to tell me his red character's name.

Chances are he plays on neither server and just fat bodies his time away on FQ while collecting unemployment from his "disability" of being too fat to move around for more than 10 minutes at a time.

Maybe he used a dialing wand to play mash auto attack, but with fingers like his a caster is out of the question - Bard is his dream that will never be

[iruinedyourday]

Chances are he plays on neither server and just fat bodies his time away on FQ while collecting unemployment from his "disability" of being too fat to move around for more than 10 minutes at a time.

Maybe he used a dialing wand to play mash auto attack, but with fingers like his a caster is out of the question - Bard is his dream that will never be

lawl ask your guild who i am loser.

last 6 months I've been playing Dubous on red and I get 2-3 kills a day when I get home from work or farm plat to fill my 400k bank account that sits there doing nothing else waiting for me to roll a new alt.

or you know I could sit there and cry on the forums about my Lincoln Park name being revoked like you.

[Spyder73]

lawl ask your guild who i am loser.

last 6 months I've been playing Dubous on red and I get 2-3 kills a day when I get home from work or farm plat to fill my 400k bank account that sits there doing nothing else waiting for me to roll a new alt.

or you know I could sit there and cry on the forums about my Lincoln Park name being revoked like you.

I troll you because I love you - same goes for Chest but don't tell him that

[iruinedyourday]

hehe I kno pal <3 same

[Tewaz]

I love that OP didn't just solo his way naked into HS North for the CR. Noob.

[Splade]

I never have gate memed on blue. if you have gate memed on blue then you're a coward and not worthy of devling a dungeon with.

I ALWAYS have gate or FD mem'd. And yes, I'm one of those that will pop it at the FIRST sign of trouble. Why? Because I'm going to be safe while everyone else wipes and I can drag their corpses to the zoneline but also... because I don't feel like trying to dig my corpse out of a dungeon

[Cecily]

Then you're missing out on the most fun part of the EQ group game, fighting your way out of a crisis situation. Of course that requires the whole group to pull together. I wonder how many wipes your ejection seat actually caused?

[iruinedyourday]

I ALWAYS have gate or FD mem'd. And yes, I'm one of those that will pop it at the FIRST sign of trouble. Why? Because I'm going to be safe while everyone else wipes and I can drag their corpses to the zoneline but also... because I don't feel like trying to dig my corpse out of a dungeon

nobody is ever in trouble when I'm in their group /flex

[Lifebar]

I propose that we build a wall around Howling Stones.

[Psionide]

like how do you get so mad about everquest that you go full crybaby on an internet forum from it

This sums up P99 SO well. Well done.