Why keep Blue? (Serious)

[iruinedyourday]

Lets be fucking real here.

1. no sleeper.
2. 6 years kunark BIS level 1's running around in every zone.
3. elitist players that wont group with new players.
4. cant attack friends in EC tunnel
5. standing around waiting for mobs to spawn
6. standing around waiting for raid mobs to spawn
7. standing around in the EC tunnel
8. what the fuck can you do besides stand around?

Server is basically unanimously accepted as a cesspool of neckbeards. Wouldn't it be better to dump those resources into a different server like Green99 or Teams or something? Maybe in the process of shutting down Blue we'd lose some of these morans that shit up the Blue forums with their nonsense. Win/Win for all involved.

discuss.

[iruinedyourday]

Just above https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230944

Im glad you can maintain your position as worst poster of all fucking time.

[fan D]

Im not sure why anyone would play on a PvE EQ server. I guess for the love of Everquest. We all know how easy the PVE content is, 99% can be done in Kunark gear only, but people raid velious with 16hour windows like a full-time job for items that will do what? Give you some more hp? Most of the stats have no impact on the game, resists don't matter. Not sure why you raid for loot on blue "SHRUGS"

[iruinedyourday]

The difference is my post makes sense cause Red is a shitbox and waste of resources. Blue actually has a decent number of people playing on a regular basis.

u dum?

wow you seem like a real funny cool & normal person IRL

http://i.imgur.com/f1M4irF.png

[Daywolf]

because

http://i.imgur.com/gd1Ndp3.gif
[reserving gif for green server here]
Consider :D

[ArumTP]

Lets be fucking real here.

1. no sleeper.
2. 6 years kunark BIS level 1's running around in every zone.
3. elitist players that wont group with new players.
4. cant attack friends in EC tunnel
5. standing around waiting for mobs to spawn
6. standing around waiting for raid mobs to spawn
7. standing around in the EC tunnel
8. what the fuck can you do besides stand around?

Server is basically unanimously accepted as a cesspool of neckbeards. Wouldn't it be better to dump those resources into a different server like Green99 or Teams or something? Maybe in the process of shutting down Blue we'd lose some of these morans that shit up the Blue forums with their nonsense. Win/Win for all involved.

discuss.

1) I agree.
2) Cheap abundant gear is great
3) This isn't true
4) Some days I'd like to
5) Both servers do this
6) Must be nice to have zero competition, that you can leave shit up all week? Or really dumb to let loot sit up there so long.
7) Its nice to have a working economy, instead of being literally being killed for my money.
8) Anything you want to other than pvp?

[Ennewi]

Lets be fucking real here.
5. standing around waiting for mobs to spawn: read a book, tab out, do rl stuff
6. standing around waiting for raid mobs to spawn: same, except crank up speakers

[Swish]

I hear Veloci Shift recently set up a batphone....requirement for all blue guilds now.

[Xaanka]

Im not sure why anyone would play on a PvE EQ server. I guess for the love of Everquest. We all know how easy the PVE content is, 99% can be done in Kunark gear only, but people raid velious with 16hour windows like a full-time job for items that will do what? Give you some more hp? Most of the stats have no impact on the game, resists don't matter. Not sure why you raid for loot on blue "SHRUGS"

TRUTH

[Xaanka]

Blue is the better server to play on for casual players who want to take things slowly and experience level 1-59 at their own pace. Like that guy in server chat who was posting about taking over a year to solo his paladin from lvl 20 to 45. if you're that guy, ya red isn't for you.

If you ever plan on being level 60 and doing anything other than immediately rerolling the next character... Just don't even waste your time on blue. You will get bored and burn out and quit when there's nothing to do, or you will re roll on red with the big dogs and your heart will be full of regret for all the time you spent farming worthless blue items and leveling your worthless blue character.

[Xaanka]

there are 13 threads currently on the first page of blue RnF about how terrible the blue raid scene is. there isn't one thread on the first 13 pages of red RnF complaining about our raid scene.

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/SMvK270.png

[thufir]

I hear Veloci Shift recently set up a batphone....requirement for all blue guilds now.

such ridiculous lies. swish, what the fuck is your problem. go retire again pls. it will save us a month of bs.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

You either understand that blue p99 is like a museum piece, an archived piece of work, or you start to think about how to turn it into a madhouse. On that note, I recommend making bixies a playable race. They can play any class, but can only equip all/all gear, have no experience loss on death as their racial bonus, but require 4,000x more exp to hit 60 than any other race as their racial penalty.

There, happy?

[iruinedyourday]

You either understand that blue p99 is like a museum piece, an archived piece of work, or you start to think about how to turn it into a madhouse. On that note, I recommend making bixies a playable race. They can play any class, but can only equip all/all gear, have no experience loss on death as their racial bonus, but require 4,000x more exp to hit 60 than any other race as their racial penalty.

There, happy?

There have been great ideas for future content but this is the greatest

[Daywolf]

http://i.imgur.com/agVWA5M.gif

[Bman703]

Yeah I like to solo and not ganked k thanks

[AzzarTheGod]

There have been great ideas for future content but this is the greatest

The greatest future content is Fabled and Luclin.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Server is thriving.

http://i.imgur.com/GnyT3zl.jpg

[Pitborn]

Blue is the better server to play on for casual players who want to take things slowly and experience level 1-59 at their own pace. Like that guy in server chat who was posting about taking over a year to solo his paladin from lvl 20 to 45. if you're that guy, ya red isn't for you.

If you ever plan on being level 60 and doing anything other than immediately rerolling the next character... Just don't even waste your time on blue. You will get bored and burn out and quit when there's nothing to do, or you will re roll on red with the big dogs and your heart will be full of regret for all the time you spent farming worthless blue items and leveling your worthless blue character.

Wrong.

If the guy played red he would have done it in half the time.

[Spyder73]

Please forgive IRYD, he is at trigger level red right now due to stress associated with the different state caucuses and imminent election/inauguration of Donald "The Truth" Trump.

He has been super rustled recently, and I don't expect this to change anytime soon.

[Kerwin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCP2yRUj3to

/thread

[maerilith]

keeping blue keeps all the scrubs away from red

it does suck though before velious and fungitwinks you could find a lot more groups on red doing cool things with 50 primetime pop than it is now with 250 primetime.

wtb CLASSIC itemloot 1-50 NAGGY VOX SERVUR plz

[maerilith]

also there was actuallymore pvp back then

(and it was funner)

mudflation is just bad for games period

[Valrok]

TRUTH

Much of it is simply a love for the game. You see the majority of players on live played on PVE servers. Maybe because it was what the majority of live servers consisted of but the end results are the same; people wanting to remember and relive those nostalgic experiences.

Most folks appear to enjoy raiding to become better for the same reasons the guys on RED like to raid and become better. There is a basic desire in most gamers to achieve the best gear possible. Whether I am playing a single player RPG or Everquest, I am constantly searching for "the upgrade" if it is out there to be had, and usually take pride in eventually obtaining it. In BLUE's case that desire causes many man hours of camping that RED players love to poke fun at but you see if we were on a server with 70 players we could stroll right in just the same.

Now in the MMO scene this behavior is exacerbated by competition with other players and some folks like to just have bragging rights. ( I am not one of those ).

You cannot deny though that the numbers on RED in comparison to BLUE clearly state where the majority would rather play. Whether RED is a wonderful playground or not, many of us just have zero interest in attempting to pvp on a game that was not designed for such activity but rather added as a second thought just in case someone wanted to play there instead.

[maerilith]

Much of it is simply a love for the game. You see the majority of players on live played on PVE servers. Maybe because it was what the majority of live servers consisted of but the end results are the same; people wanting to remember and relive those nostalgic experiences.

Most folks appear to enjoy raiding to become better for the same reasons the guys on RED like to raid and become better. There is a basic desire in most gamers to achieve the best gear possible. Whether I am playing a single player RPG or Everquest, I am constantly searching for "the upgrade" if it is out there to be had, and usually take pride in eventually obtaining it. In BLUE's case that desire causes many man hours of camping that RED players love to poke fun at but you see if we were on a server with 70 players we could stroll right in just the same.

Now in the MMO scene this behavior is exacerbated by competition with other players and some folks like to just have bragging rights. ( I am not one of those ).

You cannot deny though that the numbers on RED in comparison to BLUE clearly state where the majority would rather play. Whether RED is a wonderful playground or not, many of us just have zero interest in attempting to pvp on a game that was not designed for such activity but rather added as a second thought just in case someone wanted to play there instead.

You are a major fucking retard.

EQ was designed as a pvp game initially, thats how they sold their alpha version to sony, kewl story about it on the interweb bro

the devs always liked pvp

Your just a dumb shitfuck who doesn't understand pvp and is not a human.

[skipdog]

Im not sure why anyone would play on a PvE EQ server. I guess for the love of Everquest. We all know how easy the PVE content is, 99% can be done in Kunark gear only, but people raid velious with 16hour windows like a full-time job for items that will do what? Give you some more hp? Most of the stats have no impact on the game, resists don't matter. Not sure why you raid for loot on blue "SHRUGS"

Pretty hilarious that you say this while also admitting that you logged over 300 hours on this PvE EQ server.

[thufir]

Pretty hilarious that you say this while also admitting that you logged over 300 hours on this PvE EQ server.

guys like this think that pouring 300 hours into a game is barely playing it

[Bruno]

guys like this think that pouring 300 hours into a game is barely playing it

Guys like him only have virtual friends. I always loved the why would you raid for loot while raiding for loot argument. Usually only works on and used by retards. They only raid for loot so they can be stronger at pvp. Okay :rolleyes:.

[Thulack]

#7 is why you had the money you did to start on this game just remember that :P

[iruinedyourday]

#7 is why you had the money you did to start on this game just remember that :P

lol <3 my dwarven cleric EC tunnel rattat pal

how is that cleric btw? Still camped out on that rock in OT? hehe

[Seltius]

You are a major fucking retard.

EQ was designed as a pvp game initially, thats how they sold their alpha version to sony, kewl story about it on the interweb bro

the devs always liked pvp......

Everquest was originally a PVE game with flagging(turning in the Tome of Order and Discord to the Priest of Discord) so someone could choose to pvp. Later they added PVP servers that specifically catered to pvp. Now whether this was the intent when the idea was sold to Sony or not PVE content and servers is what was originally released only the folks in the meetings could tell you.

The rest of what you said in your post well your point would have had a better chance of being understood or at least considered without the final line.

[iruinedyourday]

game launched with rallos zek server son

development was Pve tho ur correct about that.

[Seltius]

Now back to the thread at hand. Its always nice to have choices I know a lot of people that still enjoy the Blue server and since some are friends of mine I will not speak ill of it beyond my feelings that the rules and raiding has become very suffocating with so many players and guilds all competing for the same endgame content. Something that never happened on live because they put out content so quickly and had so many different servers that while you might have over 1k player base you rarely had everyone on the same content.

Rogean and the other powers that be in on this Emu had to make some changes to protect its player base. Which meant adding rules and changes that affected everyone as a whole. Some for better and some for worse.

[Seltius]

game launched with rallos zek server son

development was Pve tho ur correct about that.


IIRC there were a lot of servers that launched on the same date in March 1999. I misread your comment I guess I was about to reply that Rallos wasn't the only one but you were saying that there was a pvp server at release I get that after rereading. I caught my mistake but since cannot edit here I didn't bother to post the correction.

[Redi]

I can't post in Raid discussion so posting here.

Its obvious in the past 6 months the GM's don't give a shit about the raid scene on P99 anymore. The current raid scene in ToV is absolutely stupid and the leaders of FA and Awakened need to just get along for once and come up with some ground rules that both parties could agree on. Cant be that hard. We all want to have fun and compete and i am sure there is a way to do that without killing your trackers each week.

My proposal:

--2 mages per wing. This makes you have to pick and prioritize your mobs

--1 mage per mob. Regardless of which wing, its the same shit as 2 mages per mob it just lowers the ammount of trackers needed. You might argue that its nice to have 2 mages so one can go piss. And I would argue just go fucking piss. If for some reason he spawns while you went pee, who cares, the same exact dragon is gonna be there next week.

--no gating mages to coth - obviously

I feel like doing this would allow for some targets to be raced for, some to be coth'd, and lower the amount of trackers needed compared to the Magewars2016 we have going now, and this is coming from someone who enjoys tracking for their guild.

Would love to hear some more ideas. The raid scene is what you want it to be, if you want it to be 20 man track teams it will be, if you want a better raid scene, you can make it happen.

Why keep blue?

[Seltius]

This is not up for debate.


Anything is up for debate when you have 2 willing parties.

[Thulack]

lol <3 my dwarven cleric EC tunnel rattat pal

how is that cleric btw? Still camped out on that rock in OT? hehe

Patch Adams got moved to EC in remembrance of Robin Williams when he died. He is still level 36 though gathering dust lol.

[Daywolf]

EQ was designed as a pvp game initially, thats how they sold their alpha version to sony, kewl story about it on the interweb bro

the devs always liked pvpwut? And so today, reddit in the news.. makin news out of empty space. yup uh-huh

In other words, you are saying.. EQ was originally birthed as like a little boy, but later decided it was going to become a g.i.r.l?
This is starting to explain some of the demography of certain players on eq/p99, and why such players are so connected to eq.

But this is unlikely, was never so mutilated, as Smedly has always been a co-op player, has developed no pure pvp games in his career so far (speaking from his concept work, planetside not attributed). His concept of EQ came from your run of the mill PnP-DnD game that he is a self professed fanatic of pre-dev career. I've read most of Smedly's published dev papers, this sounds more like something a nobody cooked up on a reddit page. Source? :)

[iruinedyourday]

Patch Adams got moved to EC in remembrance of Robin Williams when he died. He is still level 36 though gathering dust lol.

It was like 3am when i was like, ill d ONE last swarm so i can hopefully get this guy to be 36 when he logs back in.. here we are like 2 years later lmao.

[Spyder73]

It was like 3am when i was like, ill d ONE last swarm so i can hopefully get this guy to be 36 when he logs back in.. here we are like 2 years later lmao.

Swarm my bard Cockfight to victory - he is already level 52 - but i dont know how to swarm

[iruinedyourday]

Swarm my bard Cockfight to victory - he is already level 52 - but i dont know how to swarm

I have long since retired any desire to ever do swarming again hehe

[Colgate]

EQ was not designed for PvP. It is a BLATANTLY obvious fact if u have ever PvP'd in EQ. This is not up for debate.

it was a coincidental miracle that PvP solved 99% of the interplayer disputes

[Spyder73]

it was a coincidental miracle that PvP solved 99% of the interplayer disputes

Griefing and ganking opposing players is not "solving" the issue for anyone but the Empire cucks who rule the lands of emptiness (RED)

[iruinedyourday]

Griefing and ganking opposing players is not "solving" the issue for anyone but the Empire cucks who rule the lands of emptiness (RED)

we reward the bad asses who roll red with surnames of their choice.

[Ravager]

Both servers suck. Shut em both down. Then everyone can play Final Fantasy VIII.

[Xaanka]

it was a coincidental miracle that PvP solved 99% of the interplayer disputes

when i counted yesterday there were 13 threads complaining about the blue raid scene on the 1st page of blue rnf

there isn't a single thread complaining about the red raid scene in the first 13 pages of rnf

good job colgate

[Xaanka]

another glaring statistic you can't ignore: there's more threads in blue RnF complaining about the raid scene, than there are threads in red RnF complaining about my forums posting.

blue raid scene is more terrible than Xaanka forum posts. let that sink in for a minute.

[Redi]

I can't post in Raid discussion so posting here.

Its obvious in the past 6 months the GM's don't give a shit about the raid scene on P99 anymore. The current raid scene in ToV is absolutely stupid and the leaders of FA and Awakened need to just get along for once and come up with some ground rules that both parties could agree on. Cant be that hard. We all want to have fun and compete and i am sure there is a way to do that without killing your trackers each week.

My proposal:

--2 mages per wing. This makes you have to pick and prioritize your mobs

--1 mage per mob. Regardless of which wing, its the same shit as 2 mages per mob it just lowers the ammount of trackers needed. You might argue that its nice to have 2 mages so one can go piss. And I would argue just go fucking piss. If for some reason he spawns while you went pee, who cares, the same exact dragon is gonna be there next week.

--no gating mages to coth - obviously

I feel like doing this would allow for some targets to be raced for, some to be coth'd, and lower the amount of trackers needed compared to the Magewars2016 we have going now, and this is coming from someone who enjoys tracking for their guild.

Would love to hear some more ideas. The raid scene is what you want it to be, if you want it to be 20 man track teams it will be, if you want a better raid scene, you can make it happen.

[Daywolf]

when i counted yesterday there were 13 threads complaining about the blue raid scene on the 1st page of blue rnf
er you new to EQ? EQ players have been whining about EQ since 1999, 10.000.000.000 whines served. It's when the whining stops we have a problem.

[iruinedyourday]

I got a proposal for blue right here.

http://i.imgur.com/O8dzGTv.gif

[Seltius]

Nobody complains about red raid scene cause it literally has no scene to complain about. Just 1 guild killing everything cause nobody else gives a fuck. What part of this do u not get?

http://i.imgur.com/V28QLBG.jpg

Are you fucking serious you cry about fucking debating things that you feel dont need to be debated then you target the one fucker on these forums who will debate with you on if water is wet. Its better to let trolling xaanka's troll. Its like fucking jock itch you dont go around acknowledging it exists or that you have a bad case of it...You ignore it while you can and dose it with whatever the fuck will get rid of it in private when you cant take it anymore.

[Pokesan]

Are you fucking serious you cry about fucking debating things that you feel dont need to be debated then you target the one fucker on these forums who will debate with you on if water is wet. Its better to let trolling xaanka's troll. Its like fucking jock itch you dont go around acknowledging it exists or that you have a bad case of it...You ignore it while you can and dose it with whatever the fuck will get rid of it in private when you cant take it anymore.

woah. nice meltdown!!

[Seltius]

woah. nice meltdown!!

lol noted thanks. Wasn't a meltdown but probably could have done with a little less profanity. I guess that's why you always read what you type before hitting post.

It is a very apt comparison though.

And Xaanka will admit or agree that he will troll or debate with anyone just to do it he has never hidden or denied that fact.

[Faywind]

Server is thriving.

http://i.imgur.com/GnyT3zl.jpg

Thriving! Lol

[Swish]

EQ was not designed for PvP. It is a BLATANTLY obvious fact if u have ever PvP'd in EQ. This is not up for debate.

How often do you use "whirl til you hurl" on blue?

[fan D]

Thriving! Lol

Would rather play on a 57man red server than a blue server

[fan D]

EQ was not designed for PvP. It is a BLATANTLY obvious fact if u have ever PvP'd in EQ. This is not up for debate.

There are a handful of items designed for PvP in Everquest, such as the Tranquil Staff and Windstriker.

There are a handful of Character Stats designed for PvE in Everquest, such as Magic Resist, Intelligence, Wisdom, Hit Points, AC and Strength. (What else do you need to do anything in the game).

[maerilith]

There are a handful of items designed for PvP in Everquest, such as the Tranquil Staff and Windstriker.

There are a handful of Character Stats designed for PvE in Everquest, such as Magic Resist, Intelligence, Wisdom, Hit Points, AC and Strength. (What else do you need to do anything in the game).

??? Resists have way more relevance to pvp.... lol...???

They didn't design the game around pvp and itemize it around pvp, but at it's core it's a competative player vs player game that promotes teamwork to accomplish big goals. and that is why EQ is so succesful. Even the PvE aspect is player vs player, it's just bluebies FTE and red players, well, they form groups with pals and pvp.

Bluebies suffer a delusion. Reddies are insane, but suffer no delusional thinking.

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/iv9tDgz.jpg

[Troubled]

We have as many people as you have raid rules.

[Nibblewitz]

Consider therapy.

[myriverse]

1. no sleeper.
2. 6 years kunark BIS level 1's running around in every zone.
3. elitist players that wont group with new players.
4. cant attack friends in EC tunnel
5. standing around waiting for mobs to spawn
6. standing around waiting for raid mobs to spawn
7. standing around in the EC tunnel
8. what the fuck can you do besides stand around?
Why do you hate classic?

[fohkure]

idiots trolling idiots

[iruinedyourday]

man it took a red player to log into blue and raid freeport to revenge the greedy corrupt bankers of north freeport. man what do you DO on blue?! cant even role play as good as red sheesh

http://i.imgur.com/A1FRY6y.png

CONSIDER RED PALS TRUE CLASSIC EQ AWAITS

[Aviann]

Red scum bringing blue friends together since Nov 18, 2011.

Keep up the good work pals!

[bktroost]

This thread is not worthy of RnF time. Where did Troll Inny go? Where is the BDA hate speech and the TMO/FE bickering over random events that 5% of the server actually witnessed?! No one cares about the purple battlefield of Red V.S.Blue.

[iruinedyourday]

This thread is not worthy of RnF time. Where did Troll Inny go? Where is the BDA hate speech and the TMO/FE bickering over random events that 5% of the server actually witnessed?! No one cares about the purple battlefield of Red V.S.Blue.

all of that shit is in every blue thread and all the more reason to wipe blue

[Spyder73]

Shouldn't you be busy melting down in Off Topic having a nervous breakdown about the pending election IRYD?

[Swish]

This thread is not worthy of RnF time. Where did Troll Inny go? Where is the BDA hate speech and the TMO/FE bickering over random events that 5% of the server actually witnessed?! No one cares about the purple battlefield of Red V.S.Blue.

BDA have a gagging order, think they finally realized that posting in RNF getting triggered was hurting their recruitment numbers. Can't expect to recruit half the server while breaking their own "code of conduct" after all :)

[iruinedyourday]

Shouldn't you be busy melting down in Off Topic having a nervous breakdown about the pending election IRYD?

compared to your 14 page long essays on 1990s rap music drug induced nightmares im cool & normal to the max

[Swish]

Why don't we discuss this over at /r/p99uncut

http://i.imgur.com/WYko7eS.gif

That page doesnt exist, at least type it out properly.

[Pokesan]

That page doesnt exist, at least type it out properly.

yeah you pussy lover. type that shit. i fucking dare you.

[Baler]

Why keep iruinedyourday? (Serious)

[jcr4990]

Why keep iruinedyourday? (Serious)

This is the real question the people need answered

[iruinedyourday]

On red you could try to pvp me but on blue you just have to sit there and take it.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

Why keep BDA? (Serious)