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Itchybottom

12-09-2010, 01:01 AM

These "dunces" are using a different client that isn't supported by EQEmulator, and they're working closely with EQ Classic Database (http://eqcdb.com/). EQClassic, aims to actually be classic, and not just classic with some workarounds.

Lazortag

12-09-2010, 01:18 AM

I think it's kind of cute. I just don't think they have the testicles or the maturity that the devs here have. But I'm not contemptuous of them, if everything works out for them, then good for them, although I dunno if I'd play their finished product.

Rogean

12-09-2010, 01:29 AM

I think they've been deleting any posts about us. I'm sure it's been mentioned and they're all over the delete button faster than a staff member here can ban Abacab.

Lazortag

12-09-2010, 01:30 AM

I think they've been deleting any posts about us. I'm sure it's been mentioned and they're all over the delete button faster than a staff member here can ban Abacab.

Can we please never get to the point where we delete posts about other classic emulator servers? I think we're better than that.

Rogean

12-09-2010, 01:32 AM

Can we please never get to the point where we delete posts about other classic emulator servers? I think we're better than that.

I've just been moving them to the offtopic section, just like the sony EQ Progression thread.

Lazortag

12-09-2010, 01:32 AM

I've just been moving them to the offtopic section, just like the sony EQ Progression thread.

Fascism.

Rogean

12-09-2010, 01:33 AM

Although now that you mention it.. If they keep deleting posts about us I see no reason we should allow posts for them. They're shooting themselves in the foot by alienating the largest source of advertising they could possibly have once the server goes live.

Rogean

12-09-2010, 01:38 AM

Someone make a thread and see what happens.

Ames

12-09-2010, 01:43 AM

Someone make a thread and see what happens.

*cowers behind a rock*

Rogean

12-09-2010, 01:43 AM

http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=1268

I guess that answers that question.

OngorDrakan

12-09-2010, 02:38 AM

they'll never amount to nointh giwtho utu!S

Hasbinbad

12-09-2010, 03:18 AM

http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=1268

I guess that answers that question.
Guys, we're the wrong kind of people.

Rhambuk

12-09-2010, 03:21 AM

tfb?

Let them play a classic server with 1/4 of P99's popluation

thefloydian

12-09-2010, 04:52 AM

This thread is kind of embarrassing. Why would anyone here have a problem with what they're doing?

karsten

12-09-2010, 05:57 AM

they're using the cartmanland technique to attract players

Bubbles

12-09-2010, 07:24 AM

tfb?

Let them play a classic server with 1/4 of P99's popluation

Utopia?

Rhambuk

12-09-2010, 08:17 AM

Utopia?

Touche salesman...

...Touche

ukaking

12-09-2010, 08:27 AM

Their forums including PMs, edit out the name "Project 1999" and variations of it.

Rogean

12-09-2010, 09:24 AM

Their forums including PMs, edit out the name "Project 1999" and variations of it.

Talk about Nazi..

Gives me a good idea of what their GM behavior will be like.

Winobot

12-09-2010, 09:48 AM

When I was still wowin it, I was keeping an eye on EQC. My issue was, I was jonesin for some actual gameplay, not fucking videos of the devs running around every zone. They are moving incredibly slow (5 or 6 years now) too.

I'll admit, I was slightly put off by all the eqemu downtime and the ddos stuffs initially. But after that, this server has been running wonderfully. I told a handful of people about how great it was over here and most have given up on eqc.

Props to them for trying to do what they're doing, but I don't forsee them up and running for at least two years if at all. They have a ton of issues to sort out (like who's hosting the server and how they're gonna pay for it... lul).

Rogean

12-09-2010, 10:45 AM

I think they're going to have more problems than they expect using such an old client. Incompatibility with newer hardware, operating systems, graphics, etc.. It's going to be a shitfest.

Uthgaard

12-09-2010, 10:46 AM

Talk about Nazi..

Gives me a good idea of what their GM behavior will be like.

I thought this the first time I read their website.

The positive aspects of our chosen approach are consistency and absolute control. (http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1984)

Im no psychologist, but that annoucement post has scarier vibes than me handling a raid dispute on a Sunday.

Rogean

12-09-2010, 10:49 AM

scarier vibes than me handling a raid dispute on a Sunday.

/shudder

Engraverwilliam

12-09-2010, 11:53 AM

Yoite

12-09-2010, 01:36 PM

ya they are crazy bunch. forums are super moderated. pretty sure if you even type the world everquest it gets changed to "the game"

Only good thing i got out of that forum was someone making a post about P99 and me seeing if before it got deleted and getting to discover this project. I didnt even know about eq emu and this project before that post.

Nakara

12-09-2010, 04:29 PM

The fact that they are not even willing to collaborate or accept advice from/with others who have done the footwork is beyond ignorant.

no one has done what they are trying to do so who do you suppose they would collaborate with?

nilbog

12-09-2010, 04:38 PM

I tried to offer my help to them even before I started project1999.

They were unwilling to accept my suggestions.

It's cool.

Qenaden

12-09-2010, 04:48 PM

Chanus

12-09-2010, 04:51 PM

what exactly are they doing thats different from p99? i know our ui isnt 100% classic and theres some differences in mechanics but i dont understand whats so fundamentally different with what theyre doing that after 6 years they have nothing to show for their work while p99 is thriving.

They're trying to recreate the game exactly as it was... UI and all. It will only support up to the original Trilogy client.

These emus are more akin to reverse-engineering the current game and making an approximation of what things were like.

Qenaden

12-09-2010, 04:58 PM

They're trying to recreate the game exactly as it was... UI and all. It will only support up to the original Trilogy client.

These emus are more akin to reverse-engineering the current game and making an approximation of what things were like.

i mean, will that actually be significantly different from p99 in terms of end-user experience? or is it just a talking point?

guineapig

12-09-2010, 05:06 PM

i mean, will that actually be significantly different from p99 in terms of end-user experience? or is it just a talking point?

If they have their way the UI will be similar to that of the original EQUI in 1999.
Not sure if that's points for or points against to be honest.

Qenaden

12-09-2010, 05:09 PM

lol if thats the only difference and its taking them 6 year to implement it id say its points against

Chanus

12-09-2010, 05:21 PM

I don't really know the details beyond their goal is to actually recreate the game exactly as it was, and that apparently involves years worth of work.

They also plan to have spellbook-in-face meditation.

guineapig

12-09-2010, 05:23 PM

RapidScotch

12-09-2010, 05:28 PM

What? :eek: An excuse for me to use Sentry?
I did not even think of that! Sign me up!

Traitor :cool:

Nedala

12-09-2010, 06:33 PM

Someone make a thread and see what happens.

Tried that long ago, i think they check every post on the forums before they allow it, and mine was blocked.

Japan

12-09-2010, 06:47 PM

Nazi leadership, impossible development goals, and next to no evidence that they're making any progress?

seems pretty legit guys

Villide

12-09-2010, 06:52 PM

I check that site out occasionally to see what kind of progress they are making. "Occasionally" has become less and less frequent, since it might not be done for years.

Am I mistaken, or are they not planning to host a server? Just developing the client for others to modify/manage?

Bizarostormy

12-09-2010, 07:12 PM

I used to be one of the people waiting for EQclassic before i knew about p1999.
I was so pissed off that i had been waiting so long and found out that this server had been up for an entire year.
I tried to post on their forums about how great it is here but they blocked my posts and said I will be banned if I try to post about p1999 again, I sent them a PM back that I don't give a F**k because they are just wasting everyone's time.
Their project will never be done, and they do almost no work on it anymore.

Occam's Butter Knife

12-09-2010, 07:14 PM

Nazi leadership, impossible development goals, and next to no evidence that they're making any progress?

seems pretty legit guys

Sounds like they are following the Verant development plan to a T.

Ronas

12-09-2010, 07:22 PM

This is what would most probably happen. EQ Next comes out, we all go play that for afew years. Come back and rethink about classic. So eqclassic time of completion will be in 10 years. And then everyone be like, why whine about a 20 year old game, yarda yarda

Nakara

12-09-2010, 07:32 PM

I sent them a PM back that I don't give a F**k because they are just wasting everyone's time.

why do you assume they are making this game for anyone other then themselves? i'm pretty sure they could give a fuck less what you think or if anyone plays on a server they may or may not even host.

bizzum

12-09-2010, 08:23 PM

they're using the cartmanland technique to attract players

I got a theme park and youuu can't come innnn. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha *points fingers at Jewish friend*

Ihealyou

12-09-2010, 08:39 PM

why do you assume they are making this game for anyone other then themselves? i'm pretty sure they could give a fuck less what you think or if anyone plays on a server they may or may not even host.

Maybe I'm weird, but if I spent years making a game and no one played it, I would feel a little sad irl.

Lazortag

12-09-2010, 08:49 PM

I don't get it - how could they recreate classic as it was 100%? That's impossible without doing the exact same research that was done on this server. Basically they will solve a bunch of client issues (which we've been able to do too for a lot of problems, and could probably do for others) after a billion years of development, and then what? For such a minute difference in "classic" feeling you get years more of waiting. No thanks. This server may not be 100% classic but at least it feels classic.

Somekid123

12-09-2010, 09:04 PM

How much would you bet they play on Pro99 for enjoyment or even collecting data?

Nakara

12-09-2010, 09:11 PM

or even collecting data?

i dont think you understand what they are trying to do

Secrets

12-09-2010, 09:16 PM

How much would you bet they play on Pro99 for enjoyment or even collecting data?

They probably do, Wizzel did talk about it at one point.

Though they have some crafty reverse engineers on their team, I'll give them props for that.

Lazortag

12-09-2010, 10:00 PM

Supreme

12-09-2010, 10:10 PM

I tried to offer my help to them even before I started project1999.

They were unwilling to accept my suggestions.

It's cool.

Several people offered to help them..even original EQ Devs/GMs.

I think Yeahlight is a megalomaniac with a touch of dogmatism.

Supreme

12-09-2010, 10:12 PM

i dont think you understand what they are trying to do

They are trying to build Classic EQ from the ground up instead of taking Titanium/SOD and shaping it into Classic.

The sad reality is that they have been trying to do this for over 5 years.(From what i have read over the years).

Kassel

12-09-2010, 10:17 PM

Vaporware

Icecometus

12-09-2010, 10:41 PM

EQC has been through a lot. Yes it is taking a long time but it will be worth it. Personally I think it would be nice to have a couple more classicesqe servers available to play on. On live if you got sick of the raid scene or the community on a server there were many more to choose from. Many folks, my self included, played on multiple servers.

As to not accepting help, I believe that they are trying to keep the sanctity of their work. Why doesn't Nilbog and Rogean make their work on this server public and help stir up a few new servers? Because they worked really hard to get this right and don't want to just give it away to a bunch of slackers. I am pretty sure that Yeahlight and company feel the same.

It will be a real challenge to play on EQC when it comes out. I have plans to try to recreate a awesome computer from the year 2000 to run it, I mean it should be pretty cheap to do ;)

Classic everquest fans are a community. One that has to fend for its self due to that companies foolish attitude. The fact that P99 exists at all is a miracle, I mean many of you don't remember the DDoS era but I do. Have faith! By the time we are in Velious here EQC will most likely be up and running ;)

Uthgaard

12-09-2010, 10:52 PM

likely moxie

12-09-2010, 11:02 PM

http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=854

http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=11

yikes

i was always sorta interested in eqclassic but between the post queues, word filters, and heavy moderation stuff i can only imagine how it's going to be when it goes live

Chanus

12-09-2010, 11:04 PM

yikes

i was always sorta interested in eqclassic but between the post queues, word filters, and heavy moderation stuff i can only imagine how it's going to be when it goes live

For what it's worth, the people running the forums aren't going to have anything to do with the finished product going live. They aren't planning on hosting any servers.

Jaxon

12-09-2010, 11:06 PM

"The strict moderation servers two purposes: Allowing the Devs to concentrate on the Code and prevents a return of those aforementioned issues."

It's obvious why EQC isn't out yet. Yeahlight is too busy playing forum nazi to accomplish anything else. Instead of working on the client and server, all their coding effort for the past 5 years has been spent on their forums and was geared toward quashing any mention of p99(or any game besides EQC, for that matter) and suppressing criticism. What a joke. =)

Japan

12-09-2010, 11:15 PM

lol @ icecometus pretending he isn't affiliated with EQC throughout that entire apologia

would they take you off the staff if they found out you were playing the heretic's version?

Icecometus

12-09-2010, 11:24 PM

lol @ icecometus pretending he isn't affiliated with EQC throughout that entire apologia

would they take you off the staff if they found out you were playing the heretic's version?

I did not mean to imply I am part of the dev team. I am and have been a member of the website for a few years, same fourm name.

Don't think I am not frustrated that it hasn't gone live yet, but Nilbog and company have done a great job with this server and I am sated, I just like to start over when everyone else has to as well ;)

Nakara

12-10-2010, 01:42 AM

They are trying to build Classic EQ from the ground up instead of taking Titanium/SOD and shaping it into Classic.

right, so why would anyone presume they need help when this has not been done before and you probably couldn't do anything for them they couldn't do better themselves?

Nakara

12-10-2010, 01:44 AM

http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=854

http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=11

With that sort of mentality, I don't think most people would care what they accomplish. Doubt many would play a game with big brother breathing down their neck. Sort of defeats the purpose of a game.

whats the problem here? their forums are to be used to better their project. if you want to discuss other topics there are plenty of other places for that.

Nakara

12-10-2010, 01:45 AM

It's obvious why EQC isn't out yet. Yeahlight is too busy playing forum nazi to accomplish anything else. Instead of working on the client and server, all their coding effort for the past 5 years has been spent on their forums and was geared toward quashing any mention of p99(or any game besides EQC, for that matter) and suppressing criticism. What a joke. =)

you dont have a single clue about the server. have you even heard of it before this op?

Hasbinbad

12-10-2010, 02:51 AM

you dont have a single clue about the server. have you even heard of it before this op?
i have.. i silently followed eqc for 2 years before p99 came out, in fact, eqc irc is where i heard about p99..

yeahlight is and always has been a dick who takes himself way too seriously, and his vaporware will come out next year, i promise.

DOPE

12-10-2010, 02:58 AM

you dont have a single clue about the server. have you even heard of it before this op?

Are you mad, bro?

Nakara

12-10-2010, 05:20 AM

Are you mad, bro?

have you seen my post history, bro?

Saskrotch

12-10-2010, 10:16 AM

I'm still waiting for Dawn.

www.glitchless.com

Jaxon

12-10-2010, 10:37 AM

you dont have a single clue about the server. have you even heard of it before this op?

Let me login to EQC real quick so I can the first-hand experience necessary to comment intelligently on this subject.

Qenaden

12-10-2010, 11:05 AM

this just reminded me of something:

http://common.allakhazam.com/images/i/d/id3844.png

Didn't the old merchant windows used to look like that? Is there a way to develop a UI that would support that?

omg yes, this is my biggest qualm with p99. please bring back old school merch windows if possible

Chanus

12-10-2010, 11:07 AM

omg yes, this is my biggest qualm with p99. please bring back old school merch windows if possible

What is wrong with you people?

Qenaden

12-10-2010, 11:09 AM

What is wrong with you people?

whats wrong with wanting old school merch windows?

Chanus

12-10-2010, 11:11 AM

whats wrong with wanting old school merch windows?

Nothing, I suppose.

I just don't get it. The old UI was fuckawful and I prefer being able to see what I'm buying and the price without having to click on everything individually.

To each his own, of course.

Zephys

12-10-2010, 11:15 AM

Wow, first time I've ever seen the EQC site.

...pass.

Also, protip: read this thread with the lavastorm music going in the background. Really sets EQC's nazi tone.

Qenaden

12-10-2010, 11:15 AM

ill agree the original UI sucked and i dont want to see a return, but merch windows were definately implemented better than they are now IMHO. If nothing else, i prefered things being grouped by category rather than alphabetical order

Pico

12-10-2010, 11:22 AM

lotta haters in here, and it'll be hilarious to see every one of you play eqc when it comes out (assuming it does come out in the next 20 years)

Qenaden

12-10-2010, 11:26 AM

personally, i dont think eq began going downhill till after velious so i dont really see the merit in all this effort invested in keeping the game limited to the original release

Pico

12-10-2010, 11:27 AM

they're going to velious as well iirc

Qenaden

12-10-2010, 11:38 AM

lol alrite im done with this thread. after 8 pages i officially have less of an idea of wtf eqclassic is about

Chanus

12-10-2010, 11:50 AM

There's even talk of re-releasing Luclin as "the expansion it should have been".

Zephys

12-10-2010, 12:13 PM

I'd trust rogean and pals to make a realistic alternate luclin expansion more, i'd think. I'd absolutely try to get on the dev team for that.

Qenaden

12-10-2010, 12:13 PM

There's even talk of re-releasing Luclin as "the expansion it should have been".

i wonder what that would entail.

Chanus

12-10-2010, 12:18 PM

i wonder what that would entail.

Some things I saw mentioned were no Beastlords and no Nexus (wut?)... or if there is a Nexus, make only the spires on Odus work so people will have a reason to go to Odus... and no Bazaar.

Qenaden

12-10-2010, 12:44 PM

bazaar and nexus destroyed EQ. I was so psyched about nexus when it was announced and then i realized how much it took away from gameplay. it was just the first of many steps toward carebear. as for the rest, people seem to like the end game content in luclin, which i cant speak for having never experienced it.

Hasbinbad

12-10-2010, 05:39 PM

A good version of Luclin:
Access to the raid zones.
/subject

Chanus

12-10-2010, 05:43 PM

Yeah, I don't think the raiding culture on this server would be mature enough to handle Luclin.

Jesus, the RnF posts.

Zexa

12-10-2010, 07:04 PM

They're shooting themselves in the foot by alienating the largest source of advertising they could possibly have once the server goes live.

Joke of the year. I oh so appreciate subtle humor.

Teeroyoyort

12-11-2010, 07:33 AM

I've been on his server before, and it wasn't that bad. You needed eqwindows to open it. Also it was pretty neat how some of his stuff was worked out. Like I tested out his resist check system when he put it out, and it was pretty neat =D. YL and I go way back to Tarew Marr days in a guild named Omen. He's not that bad of a dude. He's just always really busy irl to keep at the project non stop. The only legit complaint I've ever heard was about open source, and his being a closed source. If his server ever came out I'd probably play on both. I think it's kinda neat to play on the old skool client. It's 100% old skool, just before luclin changed everything. With all that said I have to give it up to p99 and their staff. You guys do amazing working on getting this newer client an old skool feeling. Rogean, I played on PEQ before this, and that is also a dam good server, even if be a "test" server, lol.

jeffd

12-11-2010, 07:47 AM

old skool client

100% old skool

old skool feeling

:kool:

Teeroyoyort

12-12-2010, 04:48 AM

Ur avatar is pretty hawt!

thefloydian

12-13-2010, 04:06 PM

Lots o' butthurt in this thread.

Ongbak

12-13-2010, 04:33 PM

Finally it all make sense. For awhile, I thought P1999 and EQC are the same people. I swear I saw a lot of names in their forum in here.

KilyenaMage

12-13-2010, 05:20 PM

I think they're going to have more problems than they expect using such an old client. Incompatibility with newer hardware, operating systems, graphics, etc.. It's going to be a shitfest.

I don't think their game is ever going to release. I was looking at that project back when I was playing Vanguard (at its release). They've made only unverifiable progress since then.

KilyenaMage

12-13-2010, 05:21 PM

if you even type the world everquest it gets changed to "the game"

This is true lol. In their defense, I believe they had a run in with SOE in the past and that's one of the results.

KilyenaMage

12-13-2010, 05:23 PM

Tried that long ago, i think they check every post on the forums before they allow it, and mine was blocked.

Yes. Posts you create will not show up for quite some time - after being verified by mods.

Seeatee

12-13-2010, 05:59 PM

we should put a post on there advertising our selfs, but be really sneaky about it, make a post titled something like, must see if you love old school eq.

then set up a dummy site with a address like www.EQfanart.com or some such that forwards you to the what is project 1999 page, wonder how many people would actually see it, and find out about us before they caught on and took it down.

Seeatee

12-13-2010, 06:00 PM

also, we would need to have someone with over 40 posts make the post so it does not have to be verified by a mod.

Icecometus

12-13-2010, 06:03 PM

I recognize a lot of peeps from the EQC community here. Classic EQ fans know how to track this shit down.

Ravun

12-13-2010, 07:05 PM

I recognize a lot of peeps from the EQC community here. Classic EQ fans know how to track this shit down.

Yea I followed EQC for a couple years but if I wasn't constantly typing in things like "everquest classic" in google and whatnot I would have never found this server =/. It's just a shame that they won't allow us to post there because if they did I would have been on this server since the release, rather than several months afterward. I just wonder how many people are following that project like I did for years and are completely oblivious to this server's existence.

Seeatee

12-13-2010, 08:31 PM

I only found this server by sheer luck, and oddly enough, through the EQC forums, one of the very first posts made about this server over there was promptly removed, however all the replies were left up, and I saw that one guy referenced a similar server that had gone live, I didnt have enough posts to PM so I couldnt out right ask him what he was talking about, so I took to google, and after about an hour and a half of searching, I found p1999.

Atern

12-14-2010, 02:22 PM

EQC will most likely just be abandoned once the staff graduates from college and gets actual jobs.

binibren

01-25-2011, 04:18 PM

How did I miss this thread?!

I followed EQC for a few years and always boggled at the mindset of YL. Who gives a crap about the most minute detail of the original EQ client? People want to knock-down the ghoul lord and get a yak. Or see Freeport (the real Freeport) again. Or maybe take down Lockjaw in the Oasis, where he's supposed to be. That obsession with making the client look exactly like it did in 1999 just seems... unhealthy.

Honestly, I played from beta until Luclin and off and on until WoW came out and have no desire to see the original UI again. That original client with it's tiny world window wasn't all that it's cracked up to be. I remember being in a Naggy/Vox raid and half of the view disappearing because of buffs. That wasn't fun. I was glad when they fixed that $@#*. And don't get me started on med. I played a wizard and for 30 levels I saw nothing but book. No thanks.

Project 1999 got it right: EQEmu (Titanum client - and now beyond) and reverse merge ("remove" for non devs :) ) the newer content. Zone revamps are gone. Turn on the old models. Lots of great work from the community digging up things like old wolf models. But at least the EQC guys figured out the correct flight trajectory for a ranger's arrow. Good fucking job, guys. That only took 3 years?!

Extunarian

01-25-2011, 05:49 PM

kinda old thread to be bumping....but I'll look past it because this is a pretty good rant.

But at least the EQC guys figured out the correct flight trajectory for a ranger's arrow. Good fucking job, guys. That only took 3 years?!

Icecometus

01-25-2011, 10:13 PM

you will all make toons on EQC when it goes live and you know it.

Droxx

01-25-2011, 10:15 PM

you will all make toons on EQC when it goes live and you know it.

Then we'll be ranting about how people care too much about a 20 year old game.

Icecometus

01-25-2011, 10:26 PM

nice one ;)

Humerox

01-25-2011, 11:04 PM

90% of us will be ban-hammered into oblivion.

Harrison

01-25-2011, 11:35 PM

you will all make toons on EQC when it goes live and you know it.

No.

Lianon

01-25-2011, 11:54 PM

The fact that they are not even willing to collaborate or accept advice from/with others who have done the footwork is beyond ignorant. They are reinventing the wheel from what I gleaned in that post. p99 has succeeded where that project will fail. (or at least take so long to complete that nobody will be interested anymore and move on to greener p99 pastures)

They're getting paid to re-invent the wheel. Every little piece that they don't have to re-invent means their job is less secure. It's just like the worker bee for a big corporate company who doesn't want to change their process and is typically narrow minded. Any suggestions about what could be better or changed is just you trying to eliminate their position.

It's extremely inefficient.

Lianon

01-25-2011, 11:57 PM

Nevermind - thought we were talking about Sony's version of p1999

Duma

01-26-2011, 12:16 AM

After 3+ years I have given up hope of that server being anything other than vapoware at best and an elaborate hoax at worst. Reminds me exactly what Dawn/Dusk was.

I remember when they had a thread asking for legal advice on how to avoid problems with Sony and I gave a couple pointers and immediately I was jumped on by Yeahlight, edited my post and told me to not reply unless I was a lawyer. A couple months later the site got shut down for a year.

Karma's a bitch

Scrooge

01-26-2011, 12:25 AM

They're taking this whole "classic EQ experience" way too far, I agree with the other posters about how the old interface is crappy, I mean seriously...would you want to play this game with a 300x300 res view if you had an alternative like say....P99?

Bubbles

01-26-2011, 01:41 AM

Well, to be fair. EQC was a huge success.

It brought a TON of people to EMU, and eventually... to Project 1999.

So don't cast stones too quickly. Keep in mind their project was a huge success....

just ummm... not for EQC.. /shrug.

Columbus was looking for a new trade route by sea to India. You could say he failed miserably in that particular objective. But he did somehow end up on American and get credit for discovering an entire continent that everyone but Eurasia had been visiting for centuries.. So there's that. Wow tangent.

Gandite

01-26-2011, 01:50 AM

Omnimorph

01-26-2011, 07:49 AM

At least in bumping this people have the incentive to tag the hell out of it now with the usual :p

We still need someone to tag it with a "young .... <something"

fischsemmel

01-26-2011, 08:24 AM

I'm still waiting for Dawn.

www.glitchless.com

This actually looks like it has a ton of the elements I've been wanting in my ideal MMO over the last several years. But even if they pulled off everything that they want to per the FAQ and stuff... I still don't think I could play it.

"So, like, casters have never gotten to be excited about loot, in like, MMOs before. SO WE GOT RID OF SPELLCASTING AND MADE EVEN MORE PHAT LEWTZ TO GET!!!!!!"

WTF? Why not just make the entire system of spellcasting BETTER instead of making it into wannabe materia or something?

fischsemmel

01-26-2011, 08:30 AM

Chanus

01-26-2011, 09:17 AM

Of all my complaints with MMOs that have ever existed, including EQ, I get the most pissy when I think about how SPELLCASTERS are more excited about finding a new belt than getting a new spell.

Really wish an MMO would come out that does justice to the whole idea of magic users.

They tried making new spells loot and it caused a riot.

HURR MELEE CLASSES GET THUR UPGRADES AUTOMATICALLY WHEN THE LEVEL DURRRR

Which is a stupid argument, but it won out.

mitic

01-26-2011, 09:50 AM

the vision (tm) shall stay alive forever! more classic servers = immortality

ive been glad that p99 was out there when vztz went to hell

FrankRizzo

01-26-2011, 05:52 PM

if you'll notice there's a link on that site to some autism awareness bullshit, which makes sense since everyone on that site is likely falls somewhere between aspergers and full blown autism.

Chanus

01-26-2011, 05:58 PM

if you'll notice there's a link on that site to some autism awareness bullshit, which makes sense since everyone on that site is likely falls somewhere between aspergers and full blown autism.

HAHAHA

CONFLATING NERDS WITH AUTISM IS HILARIOUS

Salty

01-26-2011, 06:19 PM

pvp plrs

Salty

01-26-2011, 06:21 PM

oh ya, 2box on thar too or else it will be ghostly

Chanus

01-26-2011, 06:30 PM

Yeahlight claims he has engineered the client to make 2-boxing impossible.

Because you can do that.

Salty

01-26-2011, 06:31 PM

Yeahlight claims he has engineered the client to make 2-boxing impossible.

Because you can do that.

Cool story bro

moklianne

01-27-2011, 10:22 AM

Actually, I think the original client didn't allow it to begin with. I distinctly remember them finally allowing you to two box. It may have been a network limitation on their end though and not a client issue.

Chanus

01-27-2011, 10:37 AM

It was a hardware issue on the client side. Most computers couldn't handle two-boxing and the original client was such a memory hog, it put it even out of range of most higher-end computers.

It wasn't ever impossible, though.

Droxx

01-27-2011, 12:41 PM

Oh you guys. 2 boxing means 2 boxes. Aka 2 computers. It was always possible.

Aadill

01-27-2011, 12:52 PM

Oh you guys. 2 boxing means 2 boxes. Aka 2 computers. It was always possible.

2 pentium 3s and 2 dedicated 28.8kbps phone line connections?

Share the wealth, Mr. Deeppockets.

Droxx

01-27-2011, 01:06 PM

My dad funded both my computer and his. But we had legit cable internet. We were spoiled.

Chanus

01-27-2011, 01:15 PM

Yeah, cable internet existed in 1999 if you were willing to pay for it.

Harrison

01-27-2011, 01:48 PM

Yeah, cable internet existed in 1999 if you were willing to pay for it.

Not everyone had that option, depending on their location.

john_savage1982

01-29-2011, 11:35 AM

sounds like yall are scared they'll take some of P1999 populations so you can't show off your god loot in EC

Alcandre

01-29-2011, 11:39 AM

sounds like youre retarded

Shrouded

01-29-2011, 07:08 PM

sounds like yall are scared they'll take some of P1999 populations so you can't show off your god loot in EC

I think you have it the other way around considering they filter out any mention of Project 1999 on their forums.

I perused their forums one or two times, and everyone there seems like real douchebags. I would feel bad for the people donating to such obvious vaporware if they all act like pricks base off the few threads I read.

Alawen Everywhere

01-29-2011, 11:14 PM

I tried to offer my help to them even before I started project1999.

They were unwilling to accept my suggestions.

It's cool.

Some months back, I offered to help with P99. (I've been programming in C++ since 1986 and SQL since 1989).

No one even bothered to respond.

It's cool.