Dumpster Fire (RED99)

[Spyder73]

I have seen an increase in sh!tposts from Red players recently. I would just like to start a conversation about why red is a dumpster fire.

From my experience and from my investigation into R99 - Here is what I know. Please feel free to add any details on why Red is a pit of dog sh!t. lets keep this thread on topic, no Red sh!tlord apologists. Only interested in hearing the bad, not the good. There are plenty of posts on why Red is "good".

Player griefing is the only reason 95% of the server logs in anymore

The entire forum campaign of "Consider Red" is nothing more than a campaign to get people to login Red so that the current players can tell them they are terrible and grief them away.

Out of range monks training you with mobs while you are “PVPing”

Out of range players continually opening trade with you to distract you while “PVPing”

<Empire> players using buff bots to effectively give them advantage over others at all times

Players will relentlessly hunt you down if they catch wind of you camping camp *ANYTHING* at level 56+… Most times will not even take your camp, just grief you away from it.

“PVP” generally consists of highly geared players running away from you and throwing sh!t at you waiting for their “joust” cooldown on an extremely high damage high delay weapon

Leveling is terrible – Deleveled characters in top end gear in zones like Crushbone, MM, KC, and CoM are an everyday thing.

Red forumquesters are among the worst on the boards

[arsenalpow]

This all sounds true and factual to me. Good post OP.

[Pokesan]

baby got griefed

[dafier]

Chest in agreeing with himself. Great thread so far.

[maerilith]

baby got griefed

[indiscriminate_hater]

if you take OP's entire post, and make the following replacements:

"red" --> "blue"
"PVPing" --> "raiding"
"grief" --> "poopsock"

then you have a pretty accurate assessment of the blue server, as well

[thufir]

if you take OP's entire post, and make the following replacements:

"red" --> "blue"
"PVPing" --> "raiding"
"grief" --> "poopsock"

then you have a pretty accurate assessment of the blue server, as well

do you really think this? this is RnF so I always have to check for trolling

[maerilith]

OP is really exxagerating with 95%

most people just play the game on red, a small and visible minority of people have twinks. like 10 out of 200

[Seltius]

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*Player griefing is the only reason 95% of the server logs in anymore

The entire forum campaign of "Consider Red" is nothing more than a campaign to get people to login Red so that the current players can tell them they are terrible and grief them away.

*Out of range monks training you with mobs while you are “PVPing”

*Out of range players continually opening trade with you to distract you while “PVPing”

<Empire> players using buff bots to effectively give them advantage over others at all times

*Red forumquesters are among the worst on the boards

I added Asterisks to each one I will now address for you.

1)People also log in to raid because there is no high end raids cene like on blue. Its not about who can exploit or click the fastest to get the target first.

2) Out of range monks training the response is the same as on blue fraps and petition. No different from someone 'accidently' training you on blue to take your mob.

3)if you don't know how to fix this by now you probably shouldn't be playing the game anyway. There is a secret to fixing that no matter which server you play on and hint it is the same for both Blue and Red.

4)seriously out of everyone here posting trolling and crying you post a new thread everyday crying over your surname which no one including the GMs cares about but you. It physically hurts to see the way you butcher some decent songs just to plead and beg for your surname back which they have said you cannot have more than once.


If Red is a cesspool or pit then you should jump right in both feet first you will fit right in. Maybe the GMs will let you have your surname on Red.

[derpcake]

thx OP, your presence on blue is a great pro red argument

A+ effort, keep it up

I'm still donating minor trinkets and starter money to any euro players that want to give r99 a shot. There have been some changes in the raiding field which have benefited newer guilds, and it seems likely more are to follow.

[derpcake]

Maybe the GMs will let you have your surname on Red.

i'd petition that bro, i don't want him ;)

[Nibblewitz]

RED 99! Backed by popular demand... NOT!

[derpcake]

The whole "grief" thing is highly exaggerated. No-one gets camped off the server, if you die you close your client, log in a bit later, or on an alt, and just CR.

New players aren't worth camping to anyone, unless they get angry in which case people will continue to farm them.

Its basically forum behavior, some kid makes a rant post and everyone shits on him.. this really is the same situation except its in-game. More the kid rants, more posters will shit on him.

Don't get mad ingame and you won't get much attention.

This also explains why OP is so mad at red, its usually the people that start out angry that get "griefed" hardest. (they invite people to shit on them and perceive it in such a way that its soul-crushing)

guess its not for everyone

[Spyder73]

CAUTION! CAUTION! The salt content of this thread is getting to unsafe levels due to Red fanboi tears!!!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I have seen an increase in sh!tposts from Red players recently. I would just like to start a conversation about why red is a dumpster fire.

From my experience and from my investigation into R99 - Here is what I know. Please feel free to add any details on why Red is a pit of dog sh!t. lets keep this thread on topic, no Red sh!tlord apologists. Only interested in hearing the bad, not the good. There are plenty of posts on why Red is "good".

Player griefing is the only reason 95% of the server logs in anymore

The entire forum campaign of "Consider Red" is nothing more than a campaign to get people to login Red so that the current players can tell them they are terrible and grief them away.

Out of range monks training you with mobs while you are “PVPing”

Out of range players continually opening trade with you to distract you while “PVPing”

<Empire> players using buff bots to effectively give them advantage over others at all times

Players will relentlessly hunt you down if they catch wind of you camping camp *ANYTHING* at level 56+… Most times will not even take your camp, just grief you away from it.

“PVP” generally consists of highly geared players running away from you and throwing sh!t at you waiting for their “joust” cooldown on an extremely high damage high delay weapon

Leveling is terrible – Deleveled characters in top end gear in zones like Crushbone, MM, KC, and CoM are an everyday thing.

Red forumquesters are among the worst on the boards


way, way too long. All you needed to post was, "There is effectively only one guild on the server."

Anyone who knows eq would know, that's a dead server that is fun only to pathological joiners.

[derpcake]

i'm a casual in a small guild and having a great time

last week i got kael chain legs, which is pretty nice since it was the first time i grouped in velious :) monday we did some seb groupage in one of those camps blue has permacamped, great time (being vague cuz pvp!)

i could not do these things on blue as they take far more time / are excessively contested, but some more players would be nice

if a player wanted to FTE lodizal on blue, how long would he need on average? i sure don't have that time, and i don't feel bad about it either

whats your stake in dissing red? you seem to have a strong dislike of the server, why is that?

[derpcake]

way, way too long. All you needed to post was, "There is effectively only one guild on the server."

Anyone who knows eq would know, that's a dead server that is fun only to pathological joiners.

i was posting while you did, and i'm not in "the one" guild, yet make gains and have fun

so why are you so mad at red, that you have to use descriptions like "pathological joiners"

what does that even mean? sorry i'm euro, english not great

[Pokesan]

it's a nonsense term he invented out of love for the smell of his own butt

[derpcake]

i see

[Uuruk]

Is Spyder that same guy who spends his days posting on Reddit and mad as fuck a GM took away his surname? Might be confusing him with another guy.

[Spyder73]

Is Spyder that same guy who spends his days posting on Reddit and mad as fuck a GM took away his surname? Might be confusing him with another guy.

Not me bro

I rarely post on Reddit. And what kind of pathetic nerd would get mad about a surname? Next you'll be telling me that people write 10,000 word essays that are aimed to establish a lore about their surnames and discredit other guilds that are in either direct or indirect competition with his guild. LOL - then what? Desperate song covers with EQ related lyrics that are designed to lull the staff into a sense of endearment? Good one dude, but no one is that desperate.

[Tuljin]

Much of Red's population struggles really have to do with when it was released and its inability for the population to snowball.

Nostalrius Red sits around 10k users and Nostalrius Blue which came way later hangs out around 3k. So many Red Nostalrius players wanted a Blue server and they got it - yet Red is still packed full of Chinese gold farmers and tons of other people still grinding away without a mass exodus of player base.

P99 Red's release in comparison to Blue doomed the server from the get go. Also consider this - - P99 was released in 2009, when WoW was still very much in full swing. As the years have passed much of the P99 player base has become former WoW players who had heard so much about EQ yet never played. The Red server is a ghost town, they go Blue.

Also, EQ is infinitely "harder" (i.e. not nubby) than WoW so all the WoW nubs are reluctant to join Red and they come right over to Blue and warmbody for poopsockfest, accepting it as absolutely normal behavior and "fun"

The "raid" cabal says "sure, more warmbodies for us, more loot for us, win fucking win, we don't give a flying fuck about the spirit of EQ and we don't give a single flying fuck about this server with absolute WoW nub shitheads"

After years of Petitionquest and Lawyerquest, it has become evident that the only answer for the shitshow that Blue has become is PvP, like it or not. Lawyerquest sucks. Poopsockquest sucks. Someone FRAPSing you in fucking KC for "training" them and petitioning a GM fucking sucks. Back before FRAPSquest people would "PvP" each other by KSing, training, and randomly buffing and weaponizing mobs all the time. Its part of the game.

If you talk to anybody from a live Red server they always talk about how much fun it was. Because it fucking was.

If P99 Red had come out before Blue, it would probably have a similar population pattern to Nostalrius. People would roll Blue sure, but so many people would have all their loots on Red and wouldn't want to leave them behind. Also consider...no Chardok AOE which completely ruined the game by filling the top level player base with absolute nubs that shouldn't have gotten to 60 in the first place, and no lawyerquest.

People might say there would just be one massive zerg guild killing everybody else, but I doubt that too. There are enough different neckbeard factions that have come and gone on P99 over the years were there would likely be several guilds battling each other constantly for loot and drops. In a server population of 1000, would 500+ players at any given time be in one guild? I find that hard to believe considering how "ambitious" some of these neckbeards are.

My point is, everyone who knocks Red sounds like a bunch of nub crybaby bloobs, because thats what they are. PvP is the answer to Lawyerquest and its never going to happen. I elect not to poopsock and join a guild full of nubs that can't hack dungeon content and just sit at the entrance of ToV every weekend waiting for durgins. Been there, done that and it fucking sucks.

Blue is far more of a dumpster fire than Red 99, and that is tough to dispute.

[Pokesan]

Much of Red's population struggles really have to do with when it was released and its inability for the population to snowball.

Nostalrius Red sits around 10k users and Nostalrius Blue which came way later hangs out around 3k. So many Red Nostalrius players wanted a Blue server and they got it - yet Red is still packed full of Chinese gold farmers and tons of other people still grinding away without a mass exodus of player base.

P99 Red's release in comparison to Blue doomed the server from the get go. Also consider this - - P99 was released in 2009, when WoW was still very much in full swing. As the years have passed much of the P99 player base has become former WoW players who had heard so much about EQ yet never played. The Red server is a ghost town, they go Blue.

Also, EQ is infinitely "harder" (i.e. not nubby) than WoW so all the WoW nubs are reluctant to join Red and they come right over to Blue and warmbody for poopsockfest, accepting it as absolutely normal behavior and "fun"

The "raid" cabal says "sure, more warmbodies for us, more loot for us, win fucking win, we don't give a flying fuck about the spirit of EQ and we don't give a single flying fuck about this server with absolute WoW nub shitheads"

After years of Petitionquest and Lawyerquest, it has become evident that the only answer for the shitshow that Blue has become is PvP, like it or not. Lawyerquest sucks. Poopsockquest sucks. Someone FRAPSing you in fucking KC for "training" them and petitioning a GM fucking sucks. Back before FRAPSquest people would "PvP" each other by KSing, training, and randomly buffing and weaponizing mobs all the time. Its part of the game.

If you talk to anybody from a live Red server they always talk about how much fun it was. Because it fucking was.

If P99 Red had come out before Blue, it would probably have a similar population pattern to Nostalrius. People would roll Blue sure, but so many people would have all their loots on Red and wouldn't want to leave them behind. Also consider...no Chardok AOE which completely ruined the game by filling the top level player base with absolute nubs that shouldn't have gotten to 60 in the first place, and no lawyerquest.

People might say there would just be one massive zerg guild killing everybody else, but I doubt that too. There are enough different neckbeard factions that have come and gone on P99 over the years were there would likely be several guilds battling each other constantly for loot and drops. In a server population of 1000, would 500+ players at any given time be in one guild? I find that hard to believe considering how "ambitious" some of these neckbeards are.

My point is, everyone who knocks Red sounds like a bunch of nub crybaby bloobs, because thats what they are. PvP is the answer to Lawyerquest and its never going to happen. I elect not to poopsock and join a guild full of nubs that can't hack dungeon content and just sit at the entrance of ToV every weekend waiting for durgins. Been there, done that and it fucking sucks.

Blue is far more of a dumpster fire than Red 99, and that is tough to dispute.

lol

you typed all of that and noone is gonna read it

[Raev]

No one really poopsocks anything at this point, even with 16 hour variance. There is a lot of bind sight tracking/FTE maging/general staring at the wall stupidity, though. Simultaneous repops are the obvious solution to Blue's raid woes and have been proposed for several years now. For whatever reason, the staff just doesn't want to implement them <shrug>

EQ PVP is horribly unbalanced and mostly involves people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Also, zerg wins in EQ and that's just as true for PVP. You can't be in a small guild like The A-Team on a PVP server, because your 30 people will get flatted by 100 regardless of how skilled/geared they are. Enabling PVP on Blue would turn everything into a 200 v 200 desync war. Note that no one is arguing for Red because of the amazing mechanics of EQ PVP; they just want to play on a server that's less crowded and doesn't have variance.

Red is far more of a dumpster fire than blue because of the people that play there. It's probably only 25% complete tools rather than 10% like Blue, but somehow they form a critical mass that controls the culture.

[Nibblewitz]

Don't forget the crazy exp bonus on red. Join some leveling group on red, and the next day they are all 10+ levels ahead of you.

[derpcake]

EQ PVP is horribly unbalanced and mostly involves people running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

informed and educated i see

stay on blue

[derpcake]

Don't forget the crazy exp bonus on red. Join some leveling group on red, and the next day they are all 10+ levels ahead of you.

at 40+ you can group with a 60, and 40 takes a very short time, i don't see how thats an issue

[derpcake]

Much of Red's population struggles really have to do with when it was released and its inability for the population to snowball.

Nostalrius Red sits around 10k users and Nostalrius Blue which came way later hangs out around 3k. So many Red Nostalrius players wanted a Blue server and they got it - yet Red is still packed full of Chinese gold farmers and tons of other people still grinding away without a mass exodus of player base.

P99 Red's release in comparison to Blue doomed the server from the get go. Also consider this - - P99 was released in 2009, when WoW was still very much in full swing. As the years have passed much of the P99 player base has become former WoW players who had heard so much about EQ yet never played. The Red server is a ghost town, they go Blue.

Also, EQ is infinitely "harder" (i.e. not nubby) than WoW so all the WoW nubs are reluctant to join Red and they come right over to Blue and warmbody for poopsockfest, accepting it as absolutely normal behavior and "fun"

The "raid" cabal says "sure, more warmbodies for us, more loot for us, win fucking win, we don't give a flying fuck about the spirit of EQ and we don't give a single flying fuck about this server with absolute WoW nub shitheads"

After years of Petitionquest and Lawyerquest, it has become evident that the only answer for the shitshow that Blue has become is PvP, like it or not. Lawyerquest sucks. Poopsockquest sucks. Someone FRAPSing you in fucking KC for "training" them and petitioning a GM fucking sucks. Back before FRAPSquest people would "PvP" each other by KSing, training, and randomly buffing and weaponizing mobs all the time. Its part of the game.

If you talk to anybody from a live Red server they always talk about how much fun it was. Because it fucking was.

If P99 Red had come out before Blue, it would probably have a similar population pattern to Nostalrius. People would roll Blue sure, but so many people would have all their loots on Red and wouldn't want to leave them behind. Also consider...no Chardok AOE which completely ruined the game by filling the top level player base with absolute nubs that shouldn't have gotten to 60 in the first place, and no lawyerquest.

People might say there would just be one massive zerg guild killing everybody else, but I doubt that too. There are enough different neckbeard factions that have come and gone on P99 over the years were there would likely be several guilds battling each other constantly for loot and drops. In a server population of 1000, would 500+ players at any given time be in one guild? I find that hard to believe considering how "ambitious" some of these neckbeards are.

My point is, everyone who knocks Red sounds like a bunch of nub crybaby bloobs, because thats what they are. PvP is the answer to Lawyerquest and its never going to happen. I elect not to poopsock and join a guild full of nubs that can't hack dungeon content and just sit at the entrance of ToV every weekend waiting for durgins. Been there, done that and it fucking sucks.

Blue is far more of a dumpster fire than Red 99, and that is tough to dispute.

nice post

expect flames

[Nibblewitz]

at 40+ you can group with a 60, and 40 takes a very short time, i don't see how thats an issue

I leveled a couple toons into their 40s on red, but the pace was so unnatural that my accomplishments felt hollow, and then I lost interest.

Just my experience.

[Fame]

Op is a perfect example of a player that does not have what it takes to survive and thrive on Red. It's not a server for everybody, a large percentage of new players quit in an emotional fashion within a few weeks-months.

This is a common experience.

Do you have what it takes?

[Seltius]

I read every post in this thread.

I tend to agree with some of the points here with the exception of the OP who is definitely the whiner who continuously cries about his surname like it matters to anyone but him. I think a lot of the issues between the 2 servers are due to ignorance where someone plays on a server for a day or 2 has a bad experience or even just reads the forums and automatically forms an opinion that they see based on fact. I don't think either player base is really trying to force their views on the other server beyond the trolls like OP. They just want to try and help each server. Red really needs an infusion of new blood and honestly Blue could stand to lose some of the more aggressive players to an environment that encourages that aggression.

The main difference unless something is changed on Blue is that 100% of the populace on Red can interact through /ooc where as on Blue you only have to worry about the tools in your own zone.

/shrug love it or hate it matters not to most here. It is all about the next desperate cry for attention. OP we await another plea for your surname always entertaining.

[thufir]

Much of Red's population struggles really have to do with when it was released and its inability for the population to snowball.

Nostalrius Red sits around 10k users and Nostalrius Blue which came way later hangs out around 3k. So many Red Nostalrius players wanted a Blue server and they got it - yet Red is still packed full of Chinese gold farmers and tons of other people still grinding away without a mass exodus of player base.

P99 Red's release in comparison to Blue doomed the server from the get go. Also consider this - - P99 was released in 2009, when WoW was still very much in full swing. As the years have passed much of the P99 player base has become former WoW players who had heard so much about EQ yet never played. The Red server is a ghost town, they go Blue.

Also, EQ is infinitely "harder" (i.e. not nubby) than WoW so all the WoW nubs are reluctant to join Red and they come right over to Blue and warmbody for poopsockfest, accepting it as absolutely normal behavior and "fun"

The "raid" cabal says "sure, more warmbodies for us, more loot for us, win fucking win, we don't give a flying fuck about the spirit of EQ and we don't give a single flying fuck about this server with absolute WoW nub shitheads"

After years of Petitionquest and Lawyerquest, it has become evident that the only answer for the shitshow that Blue has become is PvP, like it or not. Lawyerquest sucks. Poopsockquest sucks. Someone FRAPSing you in fucking KC for "training" them and petitioning a GM fucking sucks. Back before FRAPSquest people would "PvP" each other by KSing, training, and randomly buffing and weaponizing mobs all the time. Its part of the game.

If you talk to anybody from a live Red server they always talk about how much fun it was. Because it fucking was.

If P99 Red had come out before Blue, it would probably have a similar population pattern to Nostalrius. People would roll Blue sure, but so many people would have all their loots on Red and wouldn't want to leave them behind. Also consider...no Chardok AOE which completely ruined the game by filling the top level player base with absolute nubs that shouldn't have gotten to 60 in the first place, and no lawyerquest.

People might say there would just be one massive zerg guild killing everybody else, but I doubt that too. There are enough different neckbeard factions that have come and gone on P99 over the years were there would likely be several guilds battling each other constantly for loot and drops. In a server population of 1000, would 500+ players at any given time be in one guild? I find that hard to believe considering how "ambitious" some of these neckbeards are.

My point is, everyone who knocks Red sounds like a bunch of nub crybaby bloobs, because thats what they are. PvP is the answer to Lawyerquest and its never going to happen. I elect not to poopsock and join a guild full of nubs that can't hack dungeon content and just sit at the entrance of ToV every weekend waiting for durgins. Been there, done that and it fucking sucks.

Blue is far more of a dumpster fire than Red 99, and that is tough to dispute.

Back on live, one of my friends on Xegony was a transfer over from RZ. Played a necro there for a long time. He enjoyed the extra dimension it added to some extent, but in the end he preferred the blue interactions. Red makes everquest different, and not necessarily better.

I think it's a different dynamic than WoW because you generally played WoW for the pvp. The pve was never very engaging, except maybe at the beginning of vanilla and close to the level cap, when people were still struggling for the blue dungeon sets, and places like Stratholme and Scholomance hadn't been nerfed. (Let's not speak of Molten Core, which was a boring raid instance in a long tradition of boring raid instances.) I loved on wow when I had to fight some opposite faction guy for the rights to a gathering node, or when I bumped into some red named dude in the middle of a boring quest series. Because the open world pve especially was incredibly dull - a bunch of single player content with super easy mobs and mindless quest grinds.

I played blue eq, and red wow. I even left a blue server on wow to go red, and did not look back; rolled on several red servers after that. Wow pvp is just better, a lot better, and the open world pvp was engaging and fun. So I don't think these comparisons are particularly valid.

The top end raid scene may well be a clusterfuck here on blue, iono, ain't got time for that. But it's not anywhere close to a dumpster fire from 1-59. I'm having more fun on here than I did on live, because I selected a good grouping class this time. And I enjoy exploring dungeons with my group and not having to worry about random pvpers wrecking me while I'm doing something on the bubble of my abilities.

tl;dr: eq was made for pve, wow for pvp, so comparing the two games is kinda silly.

[Spyder73]

Some of you red conspiratards have inspired a short story out of me. I present you...


THE STATE VS PROJECT 1999 RED
By Tekilya Wu'Tang


The defendants lawyer, Johnny Law, sat in the courtroom awaiting his turn to speak. The trail had begun more than 4 years and closing arguments were about to take place.

Ok Johnny, its your time to shine, this kid paid you a lot of money to get him off, Johnny thought

The judge nodded to Johnny, indicating that it was his turn to speak.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. As we near the end of this trial, I implore you to keep your mind to its purpose. This young man (red server) never stood a chance. His parents neglected him emotionally as a child, he has mental development issues, he was put in a no win situation, his dog was killed by police officers, anyone would have reacted the same way he did ! Please show mercy to this poor, mistreated, misunderstood man.”

Nailed it, Johnny thought to himself as he smirked at the prosecutor and returned to his seat.

The judge, stern faced as ever, nodded towards the prosecutor that it was his turn.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. This man kidnapped a mother of 5, skinned her body and dismembered her face in order to make a suit and mask out of the flesh. He then returned to her house 2 week later to murder her remaining family members and children WHILE wearing the flesh suit. The defendant tied the children up and made them play house with him for hours before he finally slit their throats. This was on the eve of the poor mothers funeral. The prosecution seeks the death penalty.”

Ahh shit Johnny thought has he lowered his head into his hands I forgot about the suit...

[Fame]

Some of you red conspiratards have inspired a short story out of me. I present you...


THE STATE VS PROJECT 1999 RED
By Tekilya Wu'Tang


The defendants lawyer, Johnny Law, sat in the courtroom awaiting his turn to speak. The trail had begun more than 4 years and closing arguments were about to take place.

Ok Johnny, its your time to shine, this kid paid you a lot of money to get him off, Johnny thought

The judge nodded to Johnny, indicating that it was his turn to speak.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. As we near the end of this trial, I implore you to keep your mind to its purpose. This young man (red server) never stood a chance. His parents neglected him emotionally as a child, he has mental development issues, he was put in a no win situation, his dog was killed by police officers, anyone would have reacted the same way he did ! Please show mercy to this poor, mistreated, misunderstood man.”

Nailed it, Johnny thought to himself as he smirked at the prosecutor and returned to his seat.

The judge, stern faced as ever, nodded towards the prosecutor that it was his turn.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. This man kidnapped a mother of 5, skinned her body and dismembered her face in order to make a suit and mask out of the flesh. He then returned to her house 2 week later to murder her remaining family members and children WHILE wearing the flesh suit. The defendant tied the children up and made them play house with him for hours before he finally slit their throats. This was on the eve of the poor mothers funeral. The prosecution seeks the death penalty.”

Ahh shit Johnny thought has he lowered his head into his hands I forgot about the suit...

http://i.imgur.com/p47BLRx.gif

[iruinedyourday]

wow if you like playing with toxic players like OP that like to use swear words on the forums then i guess (BLUE99) is the place to be.

[iruinedyourday]

also blue is the server for OOC names like Wu'tang and Snapple and Enterprise Rent'acar

[derpcake]

Some of you red conspiratards have inspired a short story out of me. I present you...


THE STATE VS PROJECT 1999 RED
By Tekilya Wu'Tang


The defendants lawyer, Johnny Law, sat in the courtroom awaiting his turn to speak. The trail had begun more than 4 years and closing arguments were about to take place.

Ok Johnny, its your time to shine, this kid paid you a lot of money to get him off, Johnny thought

The judge nodded to Johnny, indicating that it was his turn to speak.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. As we near the end of this trial, I implore you to keep your mind to its purpose. This young man (red server) never stood a chance. His parents neglected him emotionally as a child, he has mental development issues, he was put in a no win situation, his dog was killed by police officers, anyone would have reacted the same way he did ! Please show mercy to this poor, mistreated, misunderstood man.”

Nailed it, Johnny thought to himself as he smirked at the prosecutor and returned to his seat.

The judge, stern faced as ever, nodded towards the prosecutor that it was his turn.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. This man kidnapped a mother of 5, skinned her body and dismembered her face in order to make a suit and mask out of the flesh. He then returned to her house 2 week later to murder her remaining family members and children WHILE wearing the flesh suit. The defendant tied the children up and made them play house with him for hours before he finally slit their throats. This was on the eve of the poor mothers funeral. The prosecution seeks the death penalty.”

Ahh shit Johnny thought has he lowered his head into his hands I forgot about the suit...

at first i considered your avatar tasteless, but now i see, kindred souls or some shit

[derpcake]

wow if you like playing with toxic players like OP that like to use swear words on the forums then i guess (BLUE99) is the place to be.

guy uses a macequest avatar and is relentlessly angry at red

guy is crying about wutang as a surname, based on historical reasons, yet used the wutang copyrighted symbol

seems reasonable

got down-voted in public by Sirken

looks safe

glad i'm not in the US, i'd feel the need to warn authorities

[Ravager]

The reason anyone comes to Project 1999 at all is to try to recapture the essence of classic Everquest.

I don't know if anybody noticed, but Red is not classic.

[Seltius]

Spyder should recuse himself from this as he has already been caught committing perjury. I present the evidence.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229516
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229952
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229873
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229893
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229712
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229249


Now I can appreciate and respect imagination as much as the next person but there is clearly a pattern of instability when it comes to your obsession over a surname. I do believe all of these were started within the last 2-3 weeks which shows a downward spiral that fits the 3rd stage of obsessive personality.(having trouble remembering the exact term)


Oh and this was just scanning the first 3 pages of Blue RNF this wasn't looking at your posting history or having access to in game or forum petitions.

[derpcake]

The reason anyone comes to Project 1999 at all is to try to recapture the essence of classic Everquest.

I don't know if anybody noticed, but Red is not classic.

4+ years of kunark is classic bro, along with rotations

keep up the faith

[derpcake]

oh and more importantly "velious with nowhere to go" isn't classic either

[iruinedyourday]

The reason anyone comes to Project 1999 at all is to try to recapture the essence of classic Everquest.

I don't know if anybody noticed, but Red is not classic.

uh this is absurd, on red I leveled from 1-60 in rawhide and shit on blue you first deck out a character in full ragefire before you even start killing fire beetles.

red is WAY more classic than blue.

[Spyder73]

Classic R99 tactics going on in this thread - deflect, misdirect, and then throw enough sh!t on the fire that no one notices you are the one who started it because they are too busy running from the smell of burning feces

The fact remains that your server is full of man-children who lack social skills

Oh, and here is a pic for you IRYD

[EatitNerd]

Fuk off back 2 blue OP. Delete ur red toons please.

[Spyder73]

Fuk off back 2 blue OP. Delete ur red toons please.

Nice forum name scumbag - Is that what Colgate says to you as he slowly unzips his trousers and dangles pixles above your head?

[EatitNerd]

In this scenario Colgate sucks my dick?


Boy do you have red all wrong

[jcr4990]

I've never seen so many wall of text posts in 1 thread before when discussing a topic so simple.

Red blows dick

The End

[Spyder73]

I've never seen so many wall of text posts in 1 thread before when discussing a topic so simple.

Red blows dick

The End

Pras Trolololol

If there was ever a case to prove that R99 is hot garbage – just look at the bridge of friendship that is being made between BDA and Wu’Tang in these last few pages.

Its like Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose setting aside their differences to smash Brock Lesnar through the Spanish announce table

A beautiful thing

[Xaanka]

Player griefing is the only reason 95% of the server logs in anymore

over half the server population logs in to raid

The entire forum campaign of "Consider Red" is nothing more than a campaign to get people to login Red so that the current players can tell them they are terrible and grief them away.

no that only happens if you are terrible at everquest

Out of range monks training you with mobs while you are “PVPing”

avoid npc's while fighting feign death classes kind of an obvious 1?

Out of range players continually opening trade with you to distract you while “PVPing”

turn trade windows off or to party in options, get good at everquest

<Empire> players using buff bots to effectively give them advantage over others at all times

boxing is much more prevalent on blue tho?

Players will relentlessly hunt you down if they catch wind of you camping camp *ANYTHING* at level 56+… Most times will not even take your camp, just grief you away from it.

just be persistent and you will be level 60 in no time. its not very hard.


“PVP” generally consists of highly geared players running away from you and throwing sh!t at you waiting for their “joust” cooldown on an extremely high damage high delay weapon

nobody's forcing you to play a warrior/sk/paladin

Leveling is terrible – Deleveled characters in top end gear in zones like Crushbone, MM, KC, and CoM are an everyday thing.

iirc the highest ratio player on red is a wizard in an advisor robe

[Troubled]

Not sure why anyone would rather raid on blue with all it's extreme non-classic rules, regulations, ridiculous FTE tactics, & the main reason for the problems/timesink/stress in the raid scene altogether, variance. Last time I listened to a Sirkencast, he was wanting to root everything in ToV. And people bring up red not being classic. Ell Ohh Ell.

I feel like there's just a hate for red because of the advertising from forum trolls, and because most people that try it can't get their friends to, so they get bored, go back, and say it's not worth it. Shrug.

[maskedmelon]

Good thread.



#Redpride

[Xaanka]

u gotta pay your dues to play on red, getting your first 60 is rough but just abt everyone on the server had to do it at some point. once you make it, the endgame is a lot better than blue.

[Spyder73]

u gotta pay your dues to play on red, getting your first 60 is rough but just abt everyone on the server had to do it at some point. once you make it, the endgame is a lot better than blue.

Xaanka, "Hello Sir, let me hold your balls for you while take a crap"

Colgate, "Why would I need someone to hold my balls while I crap....Ok never mind, let's give this a try"

[Xaanka]

Xaanka, "Hello Sir, let me hold your balls for you while take a crap"

Colgate, "Why would I need someone to hold my balls while I crap....Ok never mind, let's give this a try"

just LOL if you think i would be treated with that level of respect & trust from Colgate. im a nobody

[Spyder73]

Was good RnF today boys - I may go home and record a song about how bad Red sucks, but Kunark is launching on TLP so probably not.

Might do a Wu'Tang song though....Hello darkness my old friend...

[Ravager]

No exp bonus on blue. That alone makes blue more classic than any argument you can make for red being more classic.

[Ravager]

Not sure why anyone would rather raid on blue with all it's extreme non-classic rules, regulations, ridiculous FTE tactics, & the main reason for the problems/timesink/stress in the raid scene altogether, variance. Last time I listened to a Sirkencast, he was wanting to root everything in ToV. And people bring up red not being classic. Ell Ohh Ell.

I feel like there's just a hate for red because of the advertising from forum trolls, and because most people that try it can't get their friends to, so they get bored, go back, and say it's not worth it. Shrug.

The vast majority of people who play here don't raid. So, take that off the table and sell them on the idea of everything else Red has to offer.

[Troubled]

The vast majority of people who play here don't raid. So, take that off the table and sell them on the idea of everything else Red has to offer.

Who cares about those weirdos? I came here to slay dragons.

[Colgate]

feels good to kill 17 dragons in ToV during primetime EST at a scheduled raid with 89 of my closest friends



how soul crushing does it feel to duck cast call of the hero for a 16 hour variance window and lose because another guy happened to be running a third party autofire program, and there's nothing you can do but watch them kill the mob?

[Redi]

feels good to kill 17 dragons in ToV during primetime EST at a scheduled raid with 89 of my closest friends

)


how soul crushing does it feel to duck cast call of the hero for a 16 hour variance window and lose because another guy happened to be running a third party autofire program, and there's nothing you can do but watch them kill the mob?

http://i.imgur.com/eZ7lGC3.gif

[Ravager]

feels good to kill 17 dragons in ToV during primetime EST at a scheduled raid with 89 of my closest friends



how soul crushing does it feel to duck cast call of the hero for a 16 hour variance window and lose because another guy happened to be running a third party autofire program, and there's nothing you can do but watch them kill the mob?

You might want to take a pottery class or something if your closest friends are in an elf sim.

[Malbolshia]

if you die you close your client

Wow, that DOES sound like a lot of fun...letting others dictate when and where I can play.

Amazing! Why didn't I take the plunge before!?!

[barrettdc1]

made a char on blue, someone in the tunnel gives me a weapon saying welcome to the server. I log off for the night, try logging back on and i'm banned. turns out that guy scammed the wep off someone lol. got my account unbanned but fuck blue.

made a char on red and never looked back.

[barrettdc1]

Wow, that DOES sound like a lot of fun...letting others dictate when and where I can play.

Amazing! Why didn't I take the plunge before!?!

Isn't that exactly what it is on blue with FTE, variance, etc?

[Raev]

How many uncontested TOV clears can you do before you get BIS and bored? I mean variance sucks, but competition does keep the content a bit more interesting.

[Odann]

So much wrong with the original post one could only sum this is as retarded. Enjoy standing in line on Blue.

KekKappcuckYikes!

[Ravager]

So much wrong with the original post one could only sum this is as retarded. Enjoy standing in line on Blue.

KekKappcuckYikes!

Throw some elbows the next time you buy groceries and see how that goes for you.

[zanderklocke]

I think the true fact of the matter is that both the red and blue server are terrible for different reasons. However, both of them have a few gameplay benefits as well.

Overall, you're sort of just left with an "okay" game experience I guess when you're looking at the entertainment expectations of a video game that came out in 1999 and had no intention of entertaining players 17 years later.

The best the game has to offer is really the leveling up experience up to level 60 and the exploration of zones and content you haven't experienced before. After you've done everything in the game once and explored all of the content, it's more just Skinner's Box that keeps people here so their HP and AC can be a few 100 points higher than it was some hundreds of hours earlier.

Some people would argue against this Skinner's Box argument by indicating they are here for the people or relationships, but I've really only met a handful of people that I think are people I would find interesting enough to engage with in real life. I think a lot of people lie to themselves about their relationships with the people here to justify themselves staying here with the game. I hope you can at least tolerate the individuals you are around if you spend thousands of hours with them; I can't imagine being in a large guild and being guaranteed having to spend that much time with at least a few individuals I didn't like very much.

Other people say they're here for the competition, but clearly that doesn't really make sense for the red or blue server. On red, I guess competition would just be sparring and griefing each other because it clearly doesn't happen in the high end raid content. On blue, competition is the equivalent of watching paint dry for 16 hours waiting for a timer to randomly go off that tells you to do a lap around the room for 2 minutes. Anyone interested in competition would clearly play a different game than blue if they really loved the thrill of competing.

Skinner's Box is the reason these servers still exist and the underlying reason as to why all of you will always argue whether blue or red is better. In the end, it doesn't matter. It's all the same thing.

[iruinedyourday]

How many uncontested TOV clears can you do before you get BIS and bored? I mean variance sucks, but competition does keep the content a bit more interesting.

on red? exactly as many as it takes for you to leave ToV and start PvP'n for the rest of your life and having the most fun you've had in classic EQ since 1999.

thats how many.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

it's a nonsense term he invented out of love for the smell of his own butt

Among the great apes, this is how all the pros operate.

[Kevynne]

if you take OP's entire post, and make the following replacements:

"red" --> "blue"
"PVPing" --> "raiding"
"grief" --> "poopsock"

then you have a pretty accurate assessment of the blue server, as well

[Xaanka]

on red? exactly as many as it takes for you to leave ToV and start PvP'n for the rest of your life and having the most fun you've had in classic EQ since 1999.

thats how many.

unironically, i cant wait to be the biggest bad ass on a dead server in 3 yrs

[maerilith]

I didn't even play and became a legend.

[Spyder73]

I didn't even play and became a legend.

You are a legend for all the wrong reasons. Kind of like how MaceQuest guy is a legend

[Pokesan]

You are a legend for all the wrong reasons. Kind of like how MaceQuest guy is a legend

irony thy name is...NOT WUTANG, HAHA BITCH

[maerilith]

You are a legend for all the wrong reasons. Kind of like how MaceQuest guy is a legend
Says the guy with a shrine to vryenoth.
irony thy name is...NOT WUTANG, HAHA BITCH

Lol :D

[Spyder73]

Says the guy with a shrine to vryenoth.

I admit to an unhealthy yearning to learn more about Mr. Vryenoth...I find his descent into madness fascinating and somewhat sexual.

[fan D]

was starting to like OP before his dum fukn thread

remind me next time u r in vp or tov i will log in blue and train you

i have 12 level 60s ;-) hehe see you in @pd

[Shrubwise]

The only thing I took away from OP is that saying sh!t is edgy and kool

[Akalakamelee]

Came back to EQ P99 like a month ago. tried blue for 2 hours, got bored. went back to red.

Red is everything blue + PvP. We made the right choice, you didn't.

[Spyder73]

glad the fagwang dude got his name removed.

ur a cuck

Classic Red strikes again - Forum name that makes light of pedofilia. Yikes bro...Cant say I am surprised though, seems to be an ongoing theme of Red players.

Megan's Law is the name of a federal law in the United States requiring law enforcement authorities to make information available to the public regarding registered sex offenders and child predators.

And I do not cuck, I do the cucking. If you were in a traditional relationship (man and woman, not man on man) I would step in and show you how to swing.

[fan D]

^

watch how u speak to littlegyno

he has taken out many men more powerful than u

[maskedmelon]

Red has weirdos just like blue does, but red offers a much more classic gameplay experience. Leveling is faster with the xp bonus, but content is not trivialized like it is on blue due to over population and availability of level inappropriate gear.

Yes, twinkling is classic and servers were packed at launch, but if you really want to experience Classic Everquest gameplay as an adult and no longer have the time or desire to sit at your computer 20+ hours a week, Red is the place to do it.

That said, go into to with an open mind, understand the quirks of the community and don't assume the status of victim. Identifying as a victim is the number one reason for failure on Red and it even afflicts many avid Red players. You get dusted? Who cares move on, get better, farm more ^^ simple solution.

[jcr4990]

^

watch how u speak to littlegyno

he has taken out many men more powerful than uWasn't Littlegyno the dude so desperate for the attention of a woman (ANY WOMAN) that upon seeing a 4/10 at BEST chick streaming EQ immediately MQ'd her a cleric epic at lvl 1 on Red? Proceeded to call her "His Queen" for a week until she quit and never came back.

Good times.

[Sodors Finest Poster]

http://i.imgur.com/QRCWbvW.jpg

[syztem]

OP sounds like a whiny ass bitch boy who tried to roll red, got to 15 got killed in unrest and ran back to blue. Am I going in the right direction on this? Almost everything you said sounds like its based on 0 experience above level 30, or taken from other blue ragers that quit after one PK.

[maerilith]

I feel like everytime red99 is mentioned i should just

Just going to leave this here because thread is dying and it's relevant to red server.

http://i.imgur.com/DtlTPX0.jpg


HEY GUYS I GOT 5 LEVELS TODAY AND EXPED AT THE SAME TIME AS PEEEEVEEEPEEING

waz kewl and fun pals

u should give it a shot

[fan D]

Wasn't Littlegyno the dude so desperate for the attention of a woman (ANY WOMAN) that upon seeing a 4/10 at BEST chick streaming EQ immediately MQ'd her a cleric epic at lvl 1 on Red? Proceeded to call her "His Queen" for a week until she quit and never came back.

Good times.

lol yes

[maerilith]

lol yes

lol waz that agatha? on that DE cleric she had? god can't remember the name, ran around in the robe... all the time thinking they were uber, had cleric epic at like level 1

[syztem]

agatha never did any cleric epic MQs, but in kunark they were super easy to come by. Almost everyone on red at 60 had a full cleric epic banked, or missing 1 piece generally. Only thing we had was the fleet of clerics, The deschanels + monroe and johannson

[maerilith]

agatha never did any cleric epic MQs, but in kunark they were super easy to come by. Almost everyone on red at 60 had a full cleric epic banked, or missing 1 piece generally. Only thing we had was the fleet of clerics, The deschanels + monroe and johannson

i really wish i remembered that clerics name... lol :(

was kewl cause i watched that cleric go from 1-60 and join guilds n stuff b4 i quit again and make a name, then left, and gone

[jcr4990]

lol yesSounds like a major cuck move. No?

[Pokesan]

Sounds like a major cuck move. No?

really bad post. just awful, even for bda.

cut it out.

[Pokesan]

just got deja vu. did i already tell him this?

[Xaanka]

Sounds like a major cuck move. No?

nah alpha as fuck, how do you think wrinkled old men get their dicks sucked by 19 year olds?

[maerilith]

Xaanka is the #1 reddest baddest ass most awesome EQ player I ever met.

Xaanka is also good at quake3

Xaanka also beat DukeNukem3D while in your moms basement.

I would have sex with Xaanka. Any kind of sex Xaanka wants.