Political RANT.

[Uberom]

THEY JUST EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS?!?!

The media tells us we're in a recession, possibly heading towards a depression.

I dispute this. I think we are at a crossroads. A crossroads where two different agendas are colliding.

Agenda A consists of hard working Americans who pay taxes, who work because that's what they were taught to do by their family and their nation, who are generally happy and fulfilled in their lives.

Agenda B consists of people who don't work, but not because they can't find a job. It's because they just don't want to work. They find it easier to claim unemployment. They find it easier to file for Medicaid. They find it easier to avoid minimum wage job offers. Government handouts are a dime a dozen these days, and these are the people who capitalize and work the fetid system.

The main issue in America is that we used to fully support Agenda A. People often refer to these times as "the good ole days". But not anymore. Americans now are growing up on these principles of laziness and entitlement. The worst part of all? These principles are now government funded though socialist policies. The government will support you if you are lazy, or poor, or feel entitled to "free money".

This money isn't free, though. Agenda A has to front the bill. Many people get this whole situation wrong and blame the rich people for trying to evade taxes. Quit being dumbasses, people. All of our money goes to the same place, and supports the same thing: laziness and mediocrity.

I am not a millionaire, nor do I even claim to have that goal. But I know one thing. If I made millions of dollars a year, because I worked to get to that point in society, why the fuck should I pay 30% or more of my income to support lazy people? I actually sympathize with the rich in this country.

Americans: You are NOT entitled to "the American Dream". You are NOT entitled to a typical American "standard of living", regardless of whether you have a job or not.

You are entitled to an equal opportunity of employment so that one day, if you work hard, you will have these things that we Americans covet.

[Tumdumm]

not even gonna read this

[Uberom]

not even gonna read this

not even gonna read this

[Occam's Butter Knife]

not even gonna read this

I'll summarize. "If you were laid off in the past two years it is because you're lazy and stupid. You want to be unemployed so you spend your days drinking champagne and eating lobster. Go die you ass because you are part of my deluded world view."

Working in IT for all my adult life I have been through enough down turns and restructurings to know the the mythical laid off person who wants to be unemployed is a F******g lie made up by selfish uncaring assholes. Unemployment is not enough to feed a family but it is enough to pay for the cost of finding a job.

I have a friend who was out for two years. He did not drive WAMU into bankruptcy or let it get bought out by Chase. He just happened to be on the receiving end of that cluster fuck. The unemployment in his area is higher than average so he retained during that time to be more marketable. The vast majority of people I know who have been out of work fit into this bucket and none of them fit into your type B.

[Rottening]

I'd much rather give my 30% to the unemployed rather than the fat fucks on Obamacare.

[Rangerous]

I'll summarize. "If you were laid off in the past two years it is because you're lazy and stupid. You want to be unemployed so you spend your days drinking champagne and eating lobster. Go die you ass because you are part of my deluded world view."

Working in IT for all my adult life I have been through enough down turns and restructurings to know the the mythical laid off person who wants to be unemployed is a F******g lie made up by selfish uncaring assholes. Unemployment is not enough to feed a family but it is enough to pay for the cost of finding a job.

I have a friend who was out for two years. He did not drive WAMU into bankruptcy or let it get bought out by Chase. He just happened to be on the receiving end of that cluster fuck. The unemployment in his area is higher than average so he retained during that time to be more marketable. The vast majority of people I know who have been out of work fit into this bucket and none of them fit into your type B.

^^^^^ This

[korrowan]

THEY JUST EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS?!?!

The media tells us we're in a recession, possibly heading towards a depression.

I dispute this. I think we are at a crossroads. A crossroads where two different agendas are colliding.

Agenda A consists of hard working Americans who pay taxes, who work because that's what they were taught to do by their family and their nation, who are generally happy and fulfilled in their lives.

Agenda B consists of people who don't work, but not because they can't find a job. It's because they just don't want to work. They find it easier to claim unemployment. They find it easier to file for Medicaid. They find it easier to avoid minimum wage job offers. Government handouts are a dime a dozen these days, and these are the people who capitalize and work the fetid system.

The main issue in America is that we used to fully support Agenda A. People often refer to these times as "the good ole days". But not anymore. Americans now are growing up on these principles of laziness and entitlement. The worst part of all? These principles are now government funded though socialist policies. The government will support you if you are lazy, or poor, or feel entitled to "free money".

This money isn't free, though. Agenda A has to front the bill. Many people get this whole situation wrong and blame the rich people for trying to evade taxes. Quit being dumbasses, people. All of our money goes to the same place, and supports the same thing: laziness and mediocrity.

I am not a millionaire, nor do I even claim to have that goal. But I know one thing. If I made millions of dollars a year, because I worked to get to that point in society, why the fuck should I pay 30% or more of my income to support lazy people? I actually sympathize with the rich in this country.

Americans: You are NOT entitled to "the American Dream". You are NOT entitled to a typical American "standard of living", regardless of whether you have a job or not.

You are entitled to an equal opportunity of employment so that one day, if you work hard, you will have these things that we Americans covet.

You must be one of those clueless college kids that think they know shit when in reality you don't know a damn thing. I WAS the same way when I was in school.

[Uberom]

You must be one of those clueless college kids that think they know shit when in reality you don't know a damn thing. I WAS the same way when I was in school.

I am in college, after I served for four years.

I could have went to school for free, considering I come from a dirt poor family. Instead I chose to work for what I have.

I'm 23, have a 4.0 in Computer Science at UNCW, have plans on going to grad school, and worked my ass off in the Marine Corps, serving twice in places you only see in movies like "Blackhawk Down", to get to where I am today.

I exemplify Agenda A. Start with absolutely fucking nothing, and make something of it.

If you people disagree with what I have to say, which I'm assuming most of you are Agenda B, you are fucking dense. You have no concept of money and how these decisions on social welfare programs now are affecting our future policies. Fucking morons like you have ruined this country.

Hey haters!! Here you go...

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/loltv.jpg

/discuss

[Occam's Butter Knife]

I am in college, after I served for four years.

I could have went to school for free, considering I come from a dirt poor family. Instead I chose to work for what I have.

I'm 23, have a 4.0 in Computer Science at UNCW, have plans on going to grad school, and worked my ass off in the Marine Corps, serving twice in places you only see in movies like "Blackhawk Down", to get to where I am today.

I exemplify Agenda A. Start with absolutely fucking nothing, and make something of it.

If you people disagree with what I have to say, which I'm assuming most of you are Agenda B, you are fucking dense. You have no concept of money and how these decisions on social welfare programs now are affecting our future policies. Fucking morons like you have ruined this country.

Hey haters!! Here you go...

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/loltv.jpg

/discuss

Having served in the military does not make your point valid.

With a CS degree get used to the phrase "redundant function".

[guineapig]

Agenda B consists of people who don't work, but not because they can't find a job. It's because they just don't want to work. They find it easier to claim unemployment. They find it easier to file for Medicaid. They find it easier to avoid minimum wage job offers. Government handouts are a dime a dozen these days, and these are the people who capitalize and work the fetid system.



So what you are saying is, everyone who is currently unemployed in this country is lazy. Just want to make sure We're clear on this.

[guineapig]

By the way, why is your picture called loltv?:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/loltv.jpg

And what's this all about??? http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/

[Uberom]

Having served in the military does not make your point valid.

With a CS degree get used to the phrase "redundant function".

I never said that serving in the military made my point valid. I was simply exemplifying that I had the choice to take the easy route, to get free money for college; but I chose to work for everything I have. That is the American spirit. Most people today choose welfare.

I know that people get laid off, and there are periods of transition. I estimate probably 80% of Agenda A are employed, while the other 20% are unemployed through no fault of their own, and are transitioning.

OBVIOUSLY I'm not fucking ragging on these people, dumbass. You missed my point ENTIRELY. The point is, there are MILLIONS of people out there who are cheating the system of unemployment, medicaid and other social welfare programs. Remember that ACORN scandal not too long ago? That shit wasn't a fluke or some isolated incident. People are operating under those principles daily.

Most of you tards have no clue how easy it is to claim this stuff and get away with it. My girlfriend has to deal with Medicaid patients all day, who by LAW have to be given NAME BRAND EXPENSIVE drugs, but they come in and bitch about a 3 dollar co-pay, while swinging their freshly manacured 9 inch pink nails all in the face of hard working people.

STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR PEOPLE.

[Rangerous]

I served as well, but for some reason I don't share your skewed weltanshauung. There are plenty of people who have lost their jobs who are more than willing to work. Your service may have been honorable sir, but that does not excuse douchebaggery.

/discuss

[Uberom]

Wow. Can you people read? READ THE SENTENCE I WROTE

"consists of people who don't work, but NOT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND A JOB, but because THEY DON'T WANT TO"

READ

READ

READ

before you fucking post stupid shit.

If I was a lawyer, and this were a court, you'd all be on death row. I'm surprised people in this community are so dense....

[Resitance]

WORK HARD!!!!! Millions are depending on your welfare $$
Thank you!

[Uberom]

WORK HARD!!!!! Millions are depending on your welfare $$
Thank you!

True story.

Estimates are out that only 50% of the nation is employed.

Fucking baddies. Wow. Why even argue with you uneducated, retarded people.

[guineapig]

So what you are saying is, everyone who is currently unemployed in this country is lazy? Just want to make sure We're clear on this.

You have avoided my question Mr. loltv.

You did mean everyone when you said everyone, correct?

Just want to be absolutely certain that you are a troll before I add you to my ignore list.

[Rangerous]

"Agenda A consists of hard working Americans who pay taxes, who work because that's what they were taught to do by their family and their nation, who are generally happy and fulfilled in their lives.

Agenda B consists of people who don't work, but not because they can't find a job. It's because they just don't want to work. They find it easier to claim unemployment. They find it easier to file for Medicaid. They find it easier to avoid minimum wage job offers. Government handouts are a dime a dozen these days, and these are the people who capitalize and work the fetid system."

Those are the 2 examples you cited in your *ahem* discourse.
The second example implies that you think people who are out of work do so because they don't want to work. You sir, lost your case...Dismissed!

[Resitance]

Rofl you need some anger management man. You cant fix everybody, deal with it.

[Uberom]

You have avoided my question Mr. loltv.

You did mean everyone when you said everyone, correct?

Just want to be absolutely certain that you are a troll before I add you to my ignore list.

I named that pic lol. I'm not sure why imageshack put tv on the end of it.

Agenda B is full of people who don't work, not because they can't find a job, but because they don't want to.

Agenda A has some people who don't work, because they are in transition.

I don't decide if you are in Agenda A or Agenda B. That is something that you have to decide for yourself. What I'm trying to convey is that there are people who purposefully don't get jobs to collect social welfare benefits. Is that fucking easy enough for you understand?

Lastly, why bring up your ignore list? I'm not here to make friends or impress you people. I care less if you ignore me. I'm the only one on these forums whos got anything fucking intelligent to say, anyhow.

[Uberom]

More importantly than all of this nonsense, you people keep avoiding the point.

SOCIAL WELFARE = FAIL + DEBT

Eventually, you will know...

[Winobot]

Going to use your own logic against you… where’s your credibility? The military took care of your dumb ass for four years, now you’re a freshman in college with a 4.0 in gen ed courses wracking up student loan debt. Gratz? I still have yet to see where you’ve actually entered the real world...

The hard part is when you graduate college, have to find a job, get a place of your own, start paying back the student loan(s). The military is a sweet deal, and if you actually served, thank you, but we both know they do everything short of wiping your own ass and that in no way makes you an exhibit for your “agenda a”.

[Uberom]

Found this on 4chan. Some guy ranting.

Okay, America is officially a horrible country.
I'm 38 years old, and have been unemployed since about January 09. It's not like I'm sitting around all day not looking for a job. Every day I look for jobs that are well beneath my qualifications and experience, and time after time I get turned down.
Last night I had heard that unemployment benefits were extended, but only to the newly unemployed. What the hell. What about those of us who have been unemployed, and can't find any jobs due to the economy? I have a 10 year old daughter I have to take care of, and now I don't know what I'll do. We wont be getting any benefits, and I can't find a job anywhere.
When I was employed, I was making 3k a month, then when I was unemployed I started making 600 a month, had to move into a small apartment, and get only the necessary things. I didn't mind. At least my daughter had food and a roof. But now we aren't going to get shit.
And why didn't Obama mention this when he said he's "Sympathetic to the unemployed" when he said he was going to extend the benefits?

That is an Agenda A guy who is unemployed through no fault of his own. But notice how he is LOOKING , actively. I feel bad for guys like that. Agenda A, all the way.

This is all you faggots...


http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/2301/welfaremotivator.jpg

[Villide]

Troll posting strictly to get your "picture" out there. Nicely done, Uberom.

You got a little of Rush's spunk on your chin though fella...might want to do something about that.

[Uberom]

Going to use your own logic against you… where’s your credibility? The military took care of your dumb ass for four years, now you’re a freshman in college with a 4.0 in gen ed courses wracking up student loan debt. Gratz? I still have yet to see where you’ve actually entered the real world...

The hard part is when you graduate college, have to find a job, get a place of your own, start paying back the student loan(s). The military is a sweet deal, and if you actually served, thank you, but we both know they do everything short of wiping your own ass and that in no way makes you an exhibit for your “agenda a”.

Logic dispute? Prepare to lose.

1. The military PAID me for four years for my service. If you think that being in the military isn't the "real world", then lulz. Go to Iraq, and you can see what is real and what is not. Also note, everything the military "gives" you, you actually pay for. Housing, dental, health. You pay for all shit, which is why spending 7 months in a combat zone only nets you about 12,000 dollars. I Lol'd when I heard what Blackwater / other PMC's made for similar jobs.

2. Actually a junior in college. I take about 16 credit hours a semester including summers, well past "gen. ed." courses in my degree. Somehow I managed to do all this within a year, year and a half? I'm actually about to get my first B. Sort of raging.

3. I have no student debt, because if you give four years of your life to your nation, they deem it worthwhile to pay for your education. I guess that makes up for the terrible salary for four years.

4. My girlfriend, soon to be fiance, soon to be wife, and I already bought our own house. It's nothing special, only like 220k , but really nice for a starter home.

5. If I'm not in the real world, please direct me there...haha.

6. Well, I did actually serve, that picture is of me in Fallujah the second go around, 3-6 Kilo Company. Thank you for your support. But no need to thank me, I got paid to do what I did.

[Rangerous]

Troll posting strictly to get your "picture" out there. Nicely done, Uberom.

You got a little of Rush's spunk on your chin though fella...might want to do something about that.

You missed Glenn Beck's spunk all over his backside

[Resitance]

ooo I Like Glenn Beck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQYC1sY3jp4 The Me Generation!!!!

Sounds just like Uberom, all these benefits and still complaining!

[Uberom]

You missed Glenn Beck's spunk all over his backside

Hey, level 3 ranger, shouldn't you be leveling???

The only reason I'm on this terrible forum is because I'm SUSPENDED for speaking out against corruption.

You have no fight here, nor any reason to spend your time trying to refute what a Master Jedi like myself says.

GTFO baddie.

[korrowan]

I am in college, after I served for four years.

I could have went to school for free, considering I come from a dirt poor family. Instead I chose to work for what I have.

I'm 23, have a 4.0 in Computer Science at UNCW, have plans on going to grad school, and worked my ass off in the Marine Corps, serving twice in places you only see in movies like "Blackhawk Down", to get to where I am today.

I exemplify Agenda A. Start with absolutely fucking nothing, and make something of it.

If you people disagree with what I have to say, which I'm assuming most of you are Agenda B, you are fucking dense. You have no concept of money and how these decisions on social welfare programs now are affecting our future policies. Fucking morons like you have ruined this country.

Hey haters!! Here you go...

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/loltv.jpg

/discuss

Good story bro.

[Uberom]

Good story bro.

Thanks, bro.

[Rangerous]

Hey, level 3 ranger, shouldn't you be leveling???

The only reason I'm on this terrible forum is because I'm SUSPENDED for speaking out against corruption.

You have no fight here, nor any reason to spend your time trying to refute what a Master Jedi like myself says.

GTFO baddie.

If I'm such a baddie, why am I not suspended and you are? Actions speak OH SO MUCH more loudly than mere words padawan.
Instead of starting fights you can't win, perhaps reflecting on why you were suspended would be a better use of your time.
There's a saying- "When 20 people tell you that you're an asshole, don't stop to wonder why you smell like crap"

[korrowan]

Hey, level 3 ranger, shouldn't you be leveling???

The only reason I'm on this terrible forum is because I'm SUSPENDED for speaking out against corruption.

You have no fight here, nor any reason to spend your time trying to refute what a Master Jedi like myself says.

GTFO baddie.

Maybe level 3 ranger belongs to A. Kinda like I do ... you know people who work and not play video games while they 'go' to college. BTW I paid you for 4 years so your welcome.

[Ihealyou]

What about people working minimum wage jobs who are on welfare and medicaid because minimum wage isn't enough to support their families?

[korrowan]

Oops you're. In before you troll me about that.

[Villide]

You may be like this on the outside:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/loltv.jpg

But I'm guessing you're more like this on the inside:

<img src="http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z90/rcqtball/PrivatePyle.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

/discuss

[Uberom]

Maybe level 3 ranger belongs to A. Kinda like I do ... you know people who work and not play video games while they 'go' to college. BTW I paid you for 4 years so your welcome.

At least you paid for someone who worked their ass off.

The people we pay for now live in government housing, buy rims for their Cadillacs and demand name brand prescription pills for free.

Lol. Think about what your suggesting. Dumbass.

[Resitance]

You may be like this on the outside:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9946/loltv.jpg

But I'm guessing you're more like this on the inside:

<img src="http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z90/rcqtball/PrivatePyle.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

/discuss

ROFL ROFL ROFL

[Rangerous]

At least you paid for someone who worked their ass off.

The people we pay for now live in government housing, buy rims for their Cadillacs and demand name brand prescription pills for free.

Lol. Think about what your suggesting. Dumbass.

Aha! You give yourself away herr ubersturmbannfuhrer Von Chucklenutz!
Racist asshole is racist. Care to refute, "comrade"?

[korrowan]

At least you paid for someone who worked their ass off.

The people we pay for now live in government housing, buy rims for their Cadillacs and demand name brand prescription pills for free.

Lol. Think about what your suggesting. Dumbass.

I was not suggesting anything. I was just expecting a thank you for paying you thats all. Since I happen to be in the 33% bracket for the last 4 years I think that would cover your salary for 4 years.

[Winobot]

Wow dude, quite impressive there. Able to get a 220k loan while being a full time student?

[Villide]

Problem is, a lot of people *mostly ******s, really* , don't work at all and expect all these benefits permanently.
I'm shocked...SHOCKED...you went there. Well, not really.

[korrowan]

Wow dude, quite impressive there. Able to get a 220k loan while being a full time student?

I work in Philly and live in the burbs.

[Rangerous]

I would be shocked if someone managed to cross-post this guy's rant and the accompanying statements to a back panthers forum...Pics and all.

[Rangerous]

I would be shocked if someone managed to cross-post this guy's rant and the accompanying statements to a back panthers forum...Pics and all.

Duur on me...+L

[Uberom]

Wow dude, quite impressive there. Able to get a 220k loan while being a full time student?

Saved money from the military. Big down payment. Terrible housing market. Girlfriend makes 90 a year, at the time I was making about 50.

Not really impressive.

What's impressive is the bank loaning money to people who try to afford something they can't. Then they just let the house go into foreclosure, rather than pay what they owe.

[Spud]

Someone unban this guy so he will stop posting

[Uberom]

Why the fuck would I care what the black panthers feel about my statement?

And actually, I'm pretty sure one of their agendas is to get blacks educated and into the higher echelons of American society.

They might actually like me. Please post.

Kthx.

[Uberom]

Someone unban this guy so he will stop posting

DAMN. THEY FOUND MY WEAKNESS.

[guineapig]

Problem is, a lot of people *mostly ******s, really* , don't work at all and expect all these benefits permanently.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f198/theMadMagyar/EQemu/thegrowinglist.jpg

Troll is trolling hard...

[korrowan]

Saved money from the military. Big down payment. Terrible housing market. Girlfriend makes 90 a year, at the time I was making about 50.

Not really impressive.

What's impressive is the bank loaning money to people who try to afford something they can't. Then they just let the house go into foreclosure, rather than pay what they owe.

Lol once again you take out all variables and make broad overarching statements. Nice! So guy who makes 200,000 dollars buys house worth 800,000 dollars with a LTV of 75% loses job during recession and house is now worth 475,000 dollars.

So its his fault he was laid off during the second worst economic crises and its his fault he lives in so cal and cannot find another job? Once again you fail to understand the gravity of the situation or you are just a racist troll.

[Uberom]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f198/theMadMagyar/EQemu/thegrowinglist.jpg

Troll is trolling hard...

Then why you on my threads?

GTFO.

[Uberom]

Lol once again you take out all variables and make broad overarching statements. Nice! So guy who makes 200,000 dollars buys house worth 800,000 dollars with a LTV of 75% loses job during recession and house is now worth 475,000 dollars.

So its his fault he was laid off during the second worst economic crises and its his fault he lives in so cal and cannot find another job? Once again you fail to understand the gravity of the situation or you are just a racist troll.

So your claiming that if the market goes to shit, and you lose your job, your therefore free to let your house go into foreclosure and say fuck the bank?

FUCK YOU.

PAY FOR WHAT YOU FUCKING BUY, BITCH. OR ELSE GTFO.

[korrowan]

So your claiming that if the market goes to shit, and you lose your job, your therefore free to let your house go into foreclosure and say fuck the bank?

FUCK YOU.

PAY FOR WHAT YOU FUCKING BUY, BITCH. OR ELSE GTFO.

Um if you have nothing how can you pay it lol? You are so dumb. God I hate college kids. Just gonna put you on ignore since you are a racist anyway.

[Uberom]

Um if you have nothing how can you pay it lol? You are so dumb. God I hate college kids. Just gonna put you on ignore since you are a racist anyway.

If you have nothing, then why did you buy an 800,000 dollar house?

Learn to manage money and make informed decisions.

Maybe, in the future, the government will send you bigger welfare check so you can keep it.

FUCKING BADDIE.

[Occam's Butter Knife]

Problem is, a lot of people *mostly ******s, really* , don't work at all and expect all these benefits permanently.

I'm done arguing with you people. Just look at the country. It speaks for itself.

Who put a link to P99 on the Stormfront boards? I like belittling neo-nazi's as much as anyone else but I do not need it in my games.

[Villide]

If you have nothing, then why did you buy an 800,000 dollar house?

Learn to manage money and make informed decisions.

Maybe, in the future, the government will send you bigger welfare check so you can keep it.

FUCKING BADDIE.

The bank has collateral. If they aren't ready to take over the house in case of default, they shouldn't be in the business. And the bank shouldn't have loosened their standards for extending credit. There's culpability on both sides.

Hell, my bank bent over backwards to get me into my current house. I had a decent sized personal loan with a family member that was going to extend for a year or so after I bought the house. Since it wasn't "on the books" per se, the bank ignored it. They looked at my income level and couldn't get a deal done quickly enough.

Do you have a mortgage, Private Pyle? Why? Why did you buy a house you couldn't afford to pay for in cash? Why did you need someone else's help to get you that house?

These are rhetorical questions by the way. Lord knows I do enjoy your generalizations, so keep pumping them out!

[Kruel]

If you have nothing, then why did you buy an 800,000 dollar house?

Learn to manage money and make informed decisions.

Maybe, in the future, the government will send you bigger welfare check so you can keep it.

FUCKING BADDIE.

Without attacking you or starting a arguement since i would like to stay neutral. Please answer this question.

Say.. tomarrow your GF/Wife/Finace is sleeping with another guy and you get a phone call. How are you now paying for said 220k house? I really curious to see how you would get out of some financial situations.

[Naynay]

Uberom you are 100% correct man. Some people are so blind that they can not see this. There was this one lady that thought Obama....YES.....OBAMA!!! paid her welfare...so fucking hilarious. Uberom people are too damn retarded to see this. They have been slowly brain washed over the years thinking its ok its ok..more and more..till eventually the government has you so dependant on them they will do whatever the fuck they want with you. But seriously people get over it....he is right..stop trolling him cause this is REAL and you will or at least all your children will see what the future holds because of you lazy fucks.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Ubermom, I am not sure why you think that most people on this forum are going to agree with you. This is a game forum. An MMO game forum. Most of these guys sit around the house all day playing GAMES. They spend their RL playing fake life. They are currently on, or have been on, public assistance. They probably work minimum wage jobs. They do not plan for tomorrow. They live for the moment at everyone else's expense. They will tell you otherwise, but they know the truth that is their pathetic lives. They cannot accept responsibility. They want everything handed to them. If they cannot get it they blame all of the rich people and the ones that have a measure of success. Self accountability is as foreign to them as a job. If you cannot find a job in two years, you are not trying...period. Get off your lazy asses and get a different vocation. Move to a different area that has jobs in your field. Reinvent yourself. Two years is too long. Make all the excuses you want you lazy POS and stop living off of the system. The people that work are not responsible for your pathetic asses. And if you think they are then maybe we should be able to tell you how to live your lives. I think that is fair. If we pay your way, then we get to tell you how to live. Just like your mommies and daddies did when you were babies. Ok I am done now. Flame away libtards. Tell me how I am wrong. That is all you guys are good for. Solving your own problems is not your forte'.

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[Tokum-6n0m3]

I could have went to school for free, considering I come from a dirt poor family.



So you pay for your school then? Got it.


3. I have no student debt, because if you give four years of your life to your nation, they deem it worthwhile to pay for your education. I guess that makes up for the terrible salary for four years.


O, you don't pay for your education then? I grant you did work for it by serving our country (thank you for this weather you want a TY or not)



Also note, everything the military "gives" you, you actually pay for. Housing, dental, health. You pay for all shit, which is why spending 7 months in a combat zone only nets you about 12,000 dollars.


Now Im confused again, you do pay for your education?



Im just confused and trying to keep up


PS- My lil brother is a active Marine and the amount of cash he has saved CAUSE of being in the military is amazing, he's pointed out to me several times that most of his buddies in the corp burn there money on leave and/or going to bars every chance they get.........this now now now, me me me attitude is whats killing our nation, instead of throwing shit on the fire, come up with something that fixes the situation......

[Villide]

Ubermom, I am not sure why you think that most people on this forum are going to agree with you. This is a game forum. An MMO game forum. Most of these guys sit around the house all day playing GAMES. They spend their RL playing fake life. They are currently on, or have been on, public assistance. They probably work minimum wage jobs. They do not plan for tomorrow. They live for the moment at everyone else's expense. They will tell you otherwise, but they know the truth that is their pathetic lives. They cannot accept responsibility. They want everything handed to them. If they cannot get it they blame all of the rich people and the ones that have a measure of success. Self accountability is as foreign to them as a job. If you cannot find a job in two years, you are not trying...period. Get off your lazy asses and get a different vocation. Move to a different area that has jobs in your field. Reinvent yourself. Two years is too long. Make all the excuses you want you lazy POS and stop living off of the system. The people that work are not responsible for your pathetic asses. And if you think they are then maybe we should be able to tell you how to live your lives. I think that is fair. If we pay your way, then we get to tell you how to live. Just like your mommies and daddies did when you were babies. Ok I am done now. Flame away libtards. Tell me how I am wrong. That is all you guys are good for. Solving your own problems is not your forte'.

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Damn, that's a lot of "they's". I picture you shaking your fist a lot while you typed it.

What level are your P99 characters Boggwin?

[Itchybottom]

Soap boxing without citation is just mouth breathing bullshit.

[RapidScotch]

Tokum:
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[Rangerous]

Ubermom, I am not sure why you think that most people on this forum are going to agree with you. This is a game forum. An MMO game forum. Most of these guys sit around the house all day playing GAMES. They spend their RL playing fake life. They are currently on, or have been on, public assistance. They probably work minimum wage jobs. They do not plan for tomorrow. They live for the moment at everyone else's expense. They will tell you otherwise, but they know the truth that is their pathetic lives. They cannot accept responsibility. They want everything handed to them. If they cannot get it they blame all of the rich people and the ones that have a measure of success. Self accountability is as foreign to them as a job. If you cannot find a job in two years, you are not trying...period. Get off your lazy asses and get a different vocation. Move to a different area that has jobs in your field. Reinvent yourself. Two years is too long. Make all the excuses you want you lazy POS and stop living off of the system. The people that work are not responsible for your pathetic asses. And if you think they are then maybe we should be able to tell you how to live your lives. I think that is fair. If we pay your way, then we get to tell you how to live. Just like your mommies and daddies did when you were babies. Ok I am done now. Flame away libtards. Tell me how I am wrong. That is all you guys are good for. Solving your own problems is not your forte'.

Obvious sockpuppet is obvious

[Tokum-6n0m3]

Tokum:
http://funny.picturepie.com/images/arguing_internet_retarded.jpg

You found my pic from HS!!!!!!!

sidenote: We grpn tonight?

[Uberom]

Ubermom, I am not sure why you think that most people on this forum are going to agree with you. This is a game forum. An MMO game forum. Most of these guys sit around the house all day playing GAMES. They spend their RL playing fake life. They are currently on, or have been on, public assistance. They probably work minimum wage jobs. They do not plan for tomorrow. They live for the moment at everyone else's expense. They will tell you otherwise, but they know the truth that is their pathetic lives. They cannot accept responsibility. They want everything handed to them. If they cannot get it they blame all of the rich people and the ones that have a measure of success. Self accountability is as foreign to them as a job. If you cannot find a job in two years, you are not trying...period. Get off your lazy asses and get a different vocation. Move to a different area that has jobs in your field. Reinvent yourself. Two years is too long. Make all the excuses you want you lazy POS and stop living off of the system. The people that work are not responsible for your pathetic asses. And if you think they are then maybe we should be able to tell you how to live your lives. I think that is fair. If we pay your way, then we get to tell you how to live. Just like your mommies and daddies did when you were babies. Ok I am done now. Flame away libtards. Tell me how I am wrong. That is all you guys are good for. Solving your own problems is not your forte'.

Uberom you are 100% correct man. Some people are so blind that they can not see this. There was this one lady that thought Obama....YES.....OBAMA!!! paid her welfare...so fucking hilarious. Uberom people are too damn retarded to see this. They have been slowly brain washed over the years thinking its ok its ok..more and more..till eventually the government has you so dependant on them they will do whatever the fuck they want with you. But seriously people get over it....he is right..stop trolling him cause this is REAL and you will or at least all your children will see what the future holds because of you lazy fucks.

Thanks guys. I see there at least a few people who play here that are actually intelligent. Thanks for showing support :D

[Uberom]

So you pay for your school then? Got it.



O, you don't pay for your education then? I grant you did work for it by serving our country (thank you for this weather you want a TY or not)




Now Im confused again, you do pay for your education?



Im just confused and trying to keep up


PS- My lil brother is a active Marine and the amount of cash he has saved CAUSE of being in the military is amazing, he's pointed out to me several times that most of his buddies in the corp burn there money on leave and/or going to bars every chance they get.........this now now now, me me me attitude is whats killing our nation, instead of throwing shit on the fire, come up with something that fixes the situation......

Lol, sorry but I don't think anyone has the remedy for this nation. I already described this sense of "entitlement" , which you describe as "me me me" etc. Its engrained in the younger generations and is only getting more prevalent. I don't see your confusion with the school thing. I'm pretty sure most people know how the G.I. Bill works. You risk your life, you go to college.

Questions?

[Uberom]

Without attacking you or starting a arguement since i would like to stay neutral. Please answer this question.

Say.. tomarrow your GF/Wife/Finace is sleeping with another guy and you get a phone call. How are you now paying for said 220k house? I really curious to see how you would get out of some financial situations.

Well, her name is on the house. If anything went wrong, I would just move out into an apartment, and we would split the belongings as we already have planned. We buy things off/on. I buy a tv, she buys a couch, etc. This way if anything happens, the breakup would be painless. She would have a hell of a time paying full rent, but she makes really good money, so she could manage that.

After we are married, we plan to use my VA Loan for our upgraded house. This will happen when I'm done with school and well into my career. Then the new house will be in my name, so I can get the reduced interest rate, and I will make her my stay at home housewife.

Really not that hard. In one year we made enough to almost buy the house outright. Of course we didn't put that much into it, but ... in any situation we could afford this home. We could have went bigger, but that would have been a mistake. Don't bite off more than you can chew.

We are both really good planners.

Plus, she's a young doctor....

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

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Damn, that's a lot of "they's". I picture you shaking your fist a lot while you typed it.

What level are your P99 characters Boggwin?

Why would I shake my fist?

What do the level of my toons matter?

[Randy]

There's a difference between Welfare and Unemployment. Most of the people would be in Agenda A since they were laid off within the last year or so to still be collecting Unemployment which you're upset they're extending.

[Villide]

Why would I shake my fist?

What do the level of my toons matter?
Well, I'm just curious is all. You've generalized that a majority of the players on this server are lazy douchebags who rely on government assistance in order to mainline their Evercrack.

Please tell me, kind sir, why should I believe you are any different? If you tell me you've got a couple of level 7 characters and you play a few hours per week...well, maybe I'll start moving towards your point of view. But I'm guessing you spend your fair share of time running itty bitty Boggwin Bramblefoot around Norrath rather than...well, rather than bathing or exercising or obtaining the necessary daily value of Vitamin D.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Well, I'm just curious is all. You've generalized that a majority of the players on this server are lazy douchebags who rely on government assistance in order to mainline their Evercrack.

Please tell me, kind sir, why should I believe you are any different? If you tell me you've got a couple of level 7 characters and you play a few hours per week...well, maybe I'll start moving towards your point of view. But I'm guessing you spend your fair share of time running itty bitty Boggwin Bramblefoot around Norrath rather than...well, rather than bathing or exercising or obtaining the necessary daily value of Vitamin D.

Actually I have a lvl 13 mage and a lvl 3 warrior. I play maybe a total of 2-3 hours a week. Does that satisty you? (I use the Boggwin thing from a character I created for a children's book I wrote in in my 20s. Although someone liked it enough to make a toon in this game with that name I guess. The name was taken.)

And to your first point, am I far off? I think it is safe to say that the majority of MMO players are social retards that sit around and spend more time online than outside of their tiny little rooms. Just saying.

[Villide]

Actually I have a lvl 13 mage and a lvl 3 warrior. I play maybe a total of 2-3 hours a week. Does that satisty you? (I use the Boggwin thing from a character I created for a children's book I wrote in in my 20s. Although someone liked it enough to make a toon in this game with that name I guess. The name was taken.)

And to your first point, am I far off? I think it is safe to say that the majority of MMO players are social retards that sit around and spend more time online than outside of their tiny little rooms. Just saying.
That's cool, but you know what? I don't believe you. Sorry, I've decided that everyone posting on this board fits your original criteria. No real reason for me to think that, other than just rash generalization.

Well, everyone on this board EXCEPT for me. Because it's obvious I'm so much better than these people I deign to interact with occasionally.

So quit your denying Boggwin. I know you're hardcore and alternating between 3 level 50 characters...I also know you're on the public dole just as much as the rest of these guys.

Your denial reminds me of the Republican congressmen who talk shit about gays but then get caught getting bumrushed in a taxicab by a male prostitute.

In short, everyone who plays on this server is a gay welfare recipient who is sucking off the government teet strictly to get their EQ on. You included.

Again, everyone but me. I'm the exception to the rule!

[Uberom]

Your denial reminds me of the Republican congressmen who talk shit about gays but then get caught getting bumrushed in a taxicab by a male prostitute.

In short, everyone who plays on this server is a gay welfare recipient who is sucking off the government teet strictly to get their EQ on. You included.


WOW SOMEBODY MAKE THIS GUY A GM. AMAZING!

[quellren]

...welfare recipient who is sucking off the government teet strictly to get their EQ on. You included.



Guilty as charged. I'm not only getting a check from Uncle Sam, but he's paying for my school too! Go me.

[Murphy]

Reminder that these people:

http://i.imgur.com/JdlLm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mt7eq.jpg

received Government Handouts (tm) from these people:

http://i.imgur.com/rRLEX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/h11KA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sPxZu.jpg

That's right - you and working class americans are footing the largest "welfare" handout ever, over 700 billion dollars.

And yet we complain about assisting our fellow down and out americans? What a joke.

[Kruel]

Well, her name is on the house. If anything went wrong, I would just move out into an apartment, and we would split the belongings as we already have planned. We buy things off/on. I buy a tv, she buys a couch, etc. This way if anything happens, the breakup would be painless. She would have a hell of a time paying full rent, but she makes really good money, so she could manage that.

After we are married, we plan to use my VA Loan for our upgraded house. This will happen when I'm done with school and well into my career. Then the new house will be in my name, so I can get the reduced interest rate, and I will make her my stay at home housewife.

Really not that hard. In one year we made enough to almost buy the house outright. Of course we didn't put that much into it, but ... in any situation we could afford this home. We could have went bigger, but that would have been a mistake. Don't bite off more than you can chew.

We are both really good planners.

Plus, she's a young doctor....

OK i may have read wrong. I "thought" you were bragging about your 220k house. So you are indeed bragging about your "girlfriends" 220k house. Do you own the tv, laptop.. or is that hers to.

Sounds like you have a sugar momma.... shes like your welfare check..

[Bodeanicus]

THEY JUST EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS?!?!

The media tells us we're in a recession, possibly heading towards a depression.

I dispute this. I think we are at a crossroads. A crossroads where two different agendas are colliding.

Agenda A consists of hard working Americans who pay taxes, who work because that's what they were taught to do by their family and their nation, who are generally happy and fulfilled in their lives.

Agenda B consists of people who don't work, but not because they can't find a job. It's because they just don't want to work. They find it easier to claim unemployment. They find it easier to file for Medicaid. They find it easier to avoid minimum wage job offers. Government handouts are a dime a dozen these days, and these are the people who capitalize and work the fetid system.

The main issue in America is that we used to fully support Agenda A. People often refer to these times as "the good ole days". But not anymore. Americans now are growing up on these principles of laziness and entitlement. The worst part of all? These principles are now government funded though socialist policies. The government will support you if you are lazy, or poor, or feel entitled to "free money".

This money isn't free, though. Agenda A has to front the bill. Many people get this whole situation wrong and blame the rich people for trying to evade taxes. Quit being dumbasses, people. All of our money goes to the same place, and supports the same thing: laziness and mediocrity.

I am not a millionaire, nor do I even claim to have that goal. But I know one thing. If I made millions of dollars a year, because I worked to get to that point in society, why the fuck should I pay 30% or more of my income to support lazy people? I actually sympathize with the rich in this country.

Americans: You are NOT entitled to "the American Dream". You are NOT entitled to a typical American "standard of living", regardless of whether you have a job or not.

You are entitled to an equal opportunity of employment so that one day, if you work hard, you will have these things that we Americans covet.

Summary: I listen to right wing propaganda. I don't care about other human beings. If a dollar had a dick, I'd suck it. The end.

[Uberom]

Why are you referring to people who abuse social welfare their entire lives as "down and out Americans?"

Apparently you are all middle class white males who have no clue as to the extent that American social welfare policies are extorted.

It is these policies of "free money if your can't make it yourself" that GIVE WAY to the billion dollar bailouts we've seen.

Americans seem to think money is just created out of thin air. If you need it, the government can pull it out of their piggy bank and toss you some. That is not how it works. When the federal reserve loans our government money, to give to worthless American peoples, they put severe interest on it. (Federal Reserve, though it has the word Federal in it, is actually a private bank)

Since we have habitually abused these notions of free money, our national debt, and interest on that debt, is out of control. Hence, taxes WILL NEVER go down from where they are now, because we've already committed the crime of asking the Fed for too much money.

But, if you feel like your not paying enough in taxes already, feel free to support welfare program and other social policies, as well as the next bailout.

I'm sure there are plenty of "down and out" Americans who would like some "free" money.

[Uberom]

OK i may have read wrong. I "thought" you were bragging about your 220k house. So you are indeed bragging about your "girlfriends" 220k house. Do you own the tv, laptop.. or is that hers to.

Sounds like you have a sugar momma.... shes like your welfare check..

It is our house. I didn't put my name on it because I'm saving my credit for the VA loan, which is SUPER low interest. You probably have no idea how that loan works, or what it even is, because your bad at life. I'm not going to take the time to explain it to you, either. I already explained, in a previous post, what we plan to do with that loan.

I don't see where your coming from. We both pay equally in the bills. My house > your apartment.

Questions?

[Uberom]

Summary: I listen to right wing propaganda. I don't care about other human beings. If a dollar had a dick, I'd suck it. The end.

I care about people who don't have oppurtunities. Like Africans. I don't give a fuck about fat ass Americans who don't want to work, who turn down minimum wage jobs and who collect unemployment for years.

I'm independent. I don't support either D or R. They are both terrible.

You've been sufficiently dealt with. Thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion.

Dismissed.

[Bodeanicus]

I care about people who don't have oppurtunities. Like Africans. I don't give a fuck about fat ass Americans who don't want to work, who turn down minimum wage jobs and who collect unemployment for years.

I'm independent. I don't support either D or R. They are both terrible.

You've been sufficiently dealt with. Thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion.

Dismissed.

I think Mr. Beck is ready for his blowjob, Private Pyle. Hopefully, that won't be the only thing that he trickles down to you.

By the way, I don't give two fucks about your "service.' You didn't defend me. You sucked corporate cock and helped kill innocent brown people for a buck. You're sociopath. Too bad you made it back.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

That's cool, but you know what? I don't believe you. Sorry, I've decided that everyone posting on this board fits your original criteria. No real reason for me to think that, other than just rash generalization.

Well, everyone on this board EXCEPT for me. Because it's obvious I'm so much better than these people I deign to interact with occasionally.

So quit your denying Boggwin. I know you're hardcore and alternating between 3 level 50 characters...I also know you're on the public dole just as much as the rest of these guys.

Your denial reminds me of the Republican congressmen who talk shit about gays but then get caught getting bumrushed in a taxicab by a male prostitute.

In short, everyone who plays on this server is a gay welfare recipient who is sucking off the government teet strictly to get their EQ on. You included.

Again, everyone but me. I'm the exception to the rule!

Haha. You make me laugh. Really. You believe what you want. I have never even had a level 50 toon. I don't play 24/7 like a lot of you douche bags. Plus I have never taken public assistance. I am guessing you have and do. I can tell by your republican bashing that you are exactly like the person I was talking about earlier...lol. And what is with the gay thing. You threw that in there on your own. Come out of the closet....hehe....its ok. : )

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

I think Mr. Beck is ready for his blowjob, Private Pyle. Hopefully, that won't be the only thing that he trickles down to you.

By the way, I don't give two fucks about your "service.' You didn't defend me. You sucked corporate cock and helped kill innocent brown people for a buck. You're sociopath. Too bad you made it back.

Dude. Why do you equate Republicans with people who don't care? Class warfare much. I am a proud Republican. I give to multiple charities. I donate time to causes that I believe in. Can you say the same? Doubt it. Democrats, in my experience, are the ones that are self centered. They talk the talk, but NEVER walk the walk. They want everyone else to give, give, give, but they rarely, if ever, do the same. They take, take, take. It is a statistical fact that Republicans give to charities more than democrats. They also pay more taxes on the whole then democrats do. I think it is the democrats that do not care about people.

Also to defame Uber's service to this country is majorly weak. Just like you...majorly weak. You sit around on your fat lazy ass, probably suckling the government tit and you dare to cast dispersions on him. What a huge fucking loser you must be in rl. To bad people pay tax money to keep you pathetic ass around.

Oh, and BTW nice way to bring race into this. Brown people? Really? You are a race baiting douche bag troll.

[Bodeanicus]

Dude. Why do you equate Republicans with people who don't care? Class warfare much. I am a proud Republican. I give to multiple charities. I donate time to causes that I believe in. Can you say the same? Doubt it. Democrats, in my experience, are the ones that are self centered. They talk the talk, but NEVER walk the walk. They want everyone else to give, give, give, but they rarely, if ever, do the same. They take, take, take. It is a statistical fact that Republicans give to charities more than democrats. They also pay more taxes on the whole then democrats do. I think it is the democrats that do not care about people.

Also to defame Uber's service to this country is majorly weak. Just like you...majorly weak. You sit around on your fat lazy ass, probably suckling the government tit and you dare to cast dispersions on him. What a huge fucking loser you must be in rl. To bad people pay tax money to keep you pathetic ass around.

Oh, and BTW nice way to bring race into this. Brown people? Really? You are a race baiting douche bag troll.

Democrats never give. Right. Post a link proving it. And if it comes from Fox, or any other corporate cocksucking talking head's website, it's a fucking lie, and you've shown yourself to be a moron.

I don't owe him any gratitude or admiration for his "service." I didn't ask him to do shit. Neither did anyone else here. He did it for the the college money (socialism,) and to feel like a badass (narcissism.) Some of that is my fucking money, by the way, that he used. So fuck him, fuck his service, and fuck you too, buddy/chief/pal/partner/gaylord.]

Oh, and BTW, he specifically named black people as the target of his outrage. Forgot how to fucking read, ass kisser?

[purist]

Most economists, even batshit neoconservative ones, agree on the following figures: Welfare spending has a fiscal multiplier of around 1.5, while military spending has a fiscal multiplier of 0.8.

What does that mean? It means that for every $1 that the U.S. government spends on welfare, we get $1.50 back in GDP. For every $1 that our government spends on military spending, we get back $0.80.

Now, if you had a choice of giving $1.00 to a person, and getting $1.50 back, or giving $1.00 to a second person, and getting $0.80 back, which would you choose? And which type of spending would be the bigger contributor of why we're in debt?

[Bodeanicus]

Most economists, even batshit neoconservative ones, agree on the following figures: Welfare spending has a fiscal multiplier of around 1.5, while military spending has a fiscal multiplier of 0.8.

What does that mean? It means that for every $1 that the U.S. government spends on welfare, we get $1.50 back in GDP. For every $1 that our government spends on military spending, we get back $0.80.

Now, if you had a choice of giving $1.00 to a person, and getting $1.50 back, or giving $1.00 to a second person, and getting $0.80 back, which would you choose? And which type of spending would be the bigger contributor of why we're in debt?

But... welfare is for ******s and wetbacks, right? What would Glenn Beck say?

[Slathar]

THEY JUST EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS?!?!

The media tells us we're in a recession, possibly heading towards a depression.

I dispute this. I think we are at a crossroads. A crossroads where two different agendas are colliding.

Agenda A consists of hard working Americans who pay taxes, who work because that's what they were taught to do by their family and their nation, who are generally happy and fulfilled in their lives.

Agenda B consists of people who don't work, but not because they can't find a job. It's because they just don't want to work. They find it easier to claim unemployment. They find it easier to file for Medicaid. They find it easier to avoid minimum wage job offers. Government handouts are a dime a dozen these days, and these are the people who capitalize and work the fetid system.

The main issue in America is that we used to fully support Agenda A. People often refer to these times as "the good ole days". But not anymore. Americans now are growing up on these principles of laziness and entitlement. The worst part of all? These principles are now government funded though socialist policies. The government will support you if you are lazy, or poor, or feel entitled to "free money".

This money isn't free, though. Agenda A has to front the bill. Many people get this whole situation wrong and blame the rich people for trying to evade taxes. Quit being dumbasses, people. All of our money goes to the same place, and supports the same thing: laziness and mediocrity.

I am not a millionaire, nor do I even claim to have that goal. But I know one thing. If I made millions of dollars a year, because I worked to get to that point in society, why the fuck should I pay 30% or more of my income to support lazy people? I actually sympathize with the rich in this country.

Americans: You are NOT entitled to "the American Dream". You are NOT entitled to a typical American "standard of living", regardless of whether you have a job or not.

You are entitled to an equal opportunity of employment so that one day, if you work hard, you will have these things that we Americans covet.

Would you rate yourself as fat or simply morbidly obese? Also, you sound like a reasonable human being.

[Ledzepp02]

But... welfare is for ******s and wetbacks, right? What would Glenn Beck say?

http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr107/Ledzepp_wow/BeckWhiner-1.png

[Lazortag]

Uberom, do support getting rid of welfare entirely? Or just only allowing it for the worst off in society (the elderly, disabled, etc.)? If so, why not have a two tier welfare system, just give it out to those who can't work, and for those who just won't work, put them on a "work for welfare" plan (I think some states do this - basically you get welfare cheques but they pressure you to get a job and at some point I believe they stop giving you money entirely if you're lazy, or just too picky about jobs). Would this be preferable?

[Slathar]

Debates about politics on MMORPG message boards always show me what excellent and well-adjusted people play these games.

[mimixownzall]

The military is a sweet deal, and if you actually served, thank you, but we both know they do everything short of wiping your own ass...

Uh.. wha? Damn, I missed this when I was in the military...

Oh, and if you use the GI bill, that means no student loans enless you're going to a private school that is 100k a year.

[mimixownzall]

What about people working minimum wage jobs who are on welfare and medicaid because minimum wage isn't enough to support their families?

They are akin to places you see on the commercials that try to get you to donate to save the starving children...

They live in a barren area.. they have nothing... they are all starving...

BUT THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE CHILDREN WTF!?!?!?!?!

If you're scraping along on minimum wage.. then maybe you shouldn't be pumping out children.

I don't want to pay for your poor judgement.

[uncle]

They are akin to places you see on the commercials that try to get you to donate to save the starving children...

They live in a barren area.. they have nothing... they are all starving...

BUT THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE CHILDREN WTF!?!?!?!?!

If you're scraping along on minimum wage.. then maybe you shouldn't be pumping out children.

I don't want to pay for your poor judgement.


QFT, Id rather have the money used to sterilize these people.

[Cyrius]

I think this thread gone far enought. /lock