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[ooantipostoo]

So I have a screen shot of DA rushing into solb 10mins prior to naggy being up. Be smarter with your show EQ please kthanks.

[Rhambuk]

You may as well post this in the rnf to begin with....

[Pico]

afaik ShowEQ doesn't tell you when a mob will spawn so basically yea this thread sucks

[Kassel]

So I have a screen shot of DA rushing into solb 10mins prior to naggy being up. Be smarter with your show EQ please kthanks.



It shows you when mobs are up, not when they will be up...

[Alkorin]

Amazing fail. Thanks for coming out.

[Darklake]

afaik ShowEQ doesn't tell you when a mob will spawn so basically yea this thread sucks

It shows you when mobs are up, not when they will be up...

Guess you've not seen ShowEQ working then. My mate had a linux box running it on live, and if you stayed in the zone long enough for spawns to cycle a few times, it would give you a countdown timer.

A quick search shows this thread from 2002 :-

http://www.showeq.net/forums/showthread.php?1616-Question-about-spawn-logging......&highlight=respawn

[Itchybottom]

How would keeping a timer require MySEQ? (as if anyone is routing themselves through another system or a virtual machine running regular ShowEQ on p99...) It'd be pretty easy to write a phone app, or even just set your Google Calendar (or iCal or whatever you use) ...or even, I don't know -- commit it to memory and watch the clock? Why not blame MQ2? It has the same capabilities of MySEQ, if not more because there is a larger community base. And what about spawn variance?! Why not blame abusive GMs leaking the spawn data? (Rogean, you dirty bastard... are you snorting powdered donuts again for spawn data?!)

When making any argument you should always have valid information to back your claim. Wild speculation just makes one look like a rambling idiot.

[girth]

Wouldn't be the first time somebody was getting and using spawn information, as the GMs have already came out and said somebody was doing it not long ago.

[Pico]

Guess you've not seen ShowEQ working then. My mate had a linux box running it on live, and if you stayed in the zone long enough for spawns to cycle a few times, it would give you a countdown timer.

A quick search shows this thread from 2002 :-

http://www.showeq.net/forums/showthread.php?1616-Question-about-spawn-logging......&highlight=respawn

yeah but raid mobs are on a variance so this doesn't apply.

[bluejam]

So I have a screen shot of DA rushing into solb 10mins prior to naggy being up. Be smarter with your show EQ please kthanks.
DB still leaking? :\

[Icecometus]

If you can't get the spawn times for the variance mobs why were at least 8 accounts banned a few months back? It seems pretty suspicious to me. Show EQ might not work but it is a old program. The sad fact is if it is possible to cheat then someone will be doing it. I think that guild leaders should be ultimately responsible for using information gotten through shady means not just banning a few accounts.

[girth]

Just to confirm some suspicion:

We located an issue related to some players getting spawn times of raid bosses. We have resolved it.

That's all we're disclosing.

Like I said, wouldn't be the first time for:
1. this exact problem happening
2. this guild cheating

I mean just check the actual thread Rogean posted that in: "DA KSes offically now?"

[Taluvill]

Just fyi -- Me and a few guys, 5 of us to be exact, were clearing giants. we had a mishap on a pull, and were CRing when we got naggy, my corpse was up at magy rokyl.

Just saying. Ib had a warrior, level 46, and he was the only IB in the zone.

[Taluvill]

got naggy on track i mean, we didnt kill him while CRing lol.

[Skope]

DUMP THE VARIANCE PLEEZ

[Icecometus]

Just fyi -- Me and a few guys, 5 of us to be exact, were clearing giants. we had a mishap on a pull, and were CRing when we got naggy, my corpse was up at magy rokyl.

Just saying. Ib had a warrior, level 46, and he was the only IB in the zone.

So I can totally see how this could have happened innocently; a fairly large group of DA go to help on a corpse run. IB gets suspicious and sends in the troops. I hope that is what happened.

[Daliant17447]

So I can totally see how this could have happened innocently; a fairly large group of DA go to help on a corpse run. IB gets suspicious and sends in the troops. I hope that is what happened.

-A group of us were clearing giants and Taluvill saw Nagafen on track.
-No one from DA was mobilizing to solb until after Taluvil notified the guild that Nagafen was up.
-The OP is a dumbass.

[Uberom]

I know there are some people out there who try to utilize programs for their advantage. Most of the time we will never know for sure if a certain individual uses them, but we must remember this:

1. Large, competitive guild (IB / DA) spend lots of man hours tracking gods and dragons. Hence there is always a druid or ranger in those zones.

2. That's a lot of effort and time put into those raids by people who volunteer to stay up all hours of the day and night.

3. If I was one of those people, tracking alone in a zone for hours, I would be absolutely furious to have troll baddies come on the forums and talk shit about a process they know nothing of.

Screenshot, or it didn't happen.

[Koota]

Guess you've not seen ShowEQ working then. My mate had a linux box running it on live, and if you stayed in the zone long enough for spawns to cycle a few times, it would give you a countdown timer.

A quick search shows this thread from 2002 :-

http://www.showeq.net/forums/showthread.php?1616-Question-about-spawn-logging......&highlight=respawn



ShowEQ only shows timers on mobs that consistently spawn at the same time. Something Naggy doesn't do. I'd probably know what I'm talking about.

[Ledzepp02]

ShowEQ only shows timers on mobs that consistently spawn at the same time. Something Naggy doesn't do. I'd probably know what I'm talking about.

haha =)

[Koota]

Like I said, wouldn't be the first time for:
1. this exact problem happening
2. this guild cheating

I mean just check the actual thread Rogean posted that in: "DA KSes offically now?"


Because Rogean took part in posting in a thread, that happened to fall under the title "DA KSes officially now" totally verifies your 2 points listed. Because, R&F threads always stay on topic, first off. And most importantly, he verified it in that thread too, right? Second, name one person who was banned for the whole 'compromised' database issues which gave insight to variance mob timers. Can you?

Probably not. Just keep doing what you do best though, adding fuel to whatever fire which is related to your video game nemeses.

[Koota]

Second, name one person in DA who was banned for the whole 'compromised' database issues which gave insight to variance mob timers. Can you?

[Mountaineer]

no one from DA was banned during that Sting.

[Koota]

no one from DA was banned during that Sting.

Bingo.

[xshayla701]

ShowEQ only shows timers on mobs that consistently spawn at the same time. Something Naggy doesn't do. I'd probably know what I'm talking about.

Bahaha ><

[Stefen]

Koota sure does spend a lot of time here on the forums defending a guild he's supposedly no longer a member in.

[Koota]

Koota sure does spend a lot of time here on the forums defending a guild he's supposedly no longer a member in.

Because resigning my position in a guild instantly makes me neutral toward them. Good point.

[Swishahouse]

Step the fuck off Koota we finna have to Shock the Monkey tonight!

[Darklake]

ShowEQ only shows timers on mobs that consistently spawn at the same time. Something Naggy doesn't do. I'd probably know what I'm talking about.

My post was for the edumacation of Pico and Kassel, who said that ShowEQ only showed when mobs were up and not when they were going to pop.

[Koota]

My post was for the edumacation of Pico and Kassel, who said that ShowEQ only showed when mobs were up and not when they were going to pop.

So I have a screen shot of DA rushing into solb 10mins prior to naggy being up. Be smarter with your show EQ please kthanks.

Guess you've not seen ShowEQ working then. My mate had a linux box running it on live, and if you stayed in the zone long enough for spawns to cycle a few times, it would give you a countdown timer.




Uh huh.

[Winobot]

Not even a shop'd screenie? You don't deserve to make threads.

[Shannacore]

WTB a response from ooantipostoo

[Scrooge]

Bingo.

I still can't get enough of your avatar..

[Kassel]

My post was for the edumacation of Pico and Kassel, who said that ShowEQ only showed when mobs were up and not when they were going to pop.


You don't educate anyone when you are wrong.... you just add to the misinformation.

[girth]

Because resigning my position in a guild instantly makes me neutral toward them. Good point.

You got banned for cheating and they made a post disowning you, I guess that was bullshit then?

[Icecometus]

wasn't DA suspended from raiding last week? I don't think it is completely unreasonable to be suspicious of the only guild on P99 to be punished as a whole for cheating.

so no one from DA was banned during the sting? where is the list of names? DA seemed to be utilizing the information that was being stolen from the data base at that time, i remember. witch brings me back to my earlier point that guild leaders should be held accountable for their guild using shady information and fucking up a already fucked up situation.

[Darklake]

You don't educate anyone when you are wrong.... you just add to the misinformation.

Prove it I'm wrong. I'm not going to risk a ban just to win some internet points.

[Kassel]

Koota already did......

[Mountaineer]

i remember.


Bad things happen in this game. I REMEMBER! (Which makes them true)

[Icecometus]

Bad things happen in this game. I REMEMBER! (Which makes them true)

so you are saying that you guys never used any information stolen from the data base? come on...

[Darklake]

Koota already did......

Where? Your claim was that there were NO timers, he clarified that it's only for regular spawns, not the likes of Naggy. Variance aside, my original post holds.

[Koota]

You got banned for cheating and they made a post disowning you, I guess that was bullshit then?

Where in the post does it say that they removed me from the guild, and I didn't step down? Further more, where does it imply that I am neutral toward them or they, in general are neutral toward me (not my actions, that led to my banning of 2 of my characters.)

[Morlaeth]

This is like "Mean Girls 2: Project 1999"

[Theldios]

Where in the post does it say that they removed me from the guild, and I didn't step down? Further more, where does it imply that I am neutral toward them or they, in general are neutral toward me (not my actions, that led to my banning of 2 of my characters.)

"The offending player was permanently banned by the p99 staff. Were he simply suspended, he would be removed from the guild upon the suspension being lifted."

They did not get a chance to remove you, but do state they would have if you were "simply suspended."
Is that not clear to you as it is to the rest of us that they were yes indeed distancing themselves from you?

[Kassel]

Where? Your claim was that there were NO timers, he clarified that it's only for regular spawns, not the likes of Naggy. Variance aside, my original post holds.


I said it will not show you when mobs will be up, (we are talking about naggy in this thread. ) i mentioned nothing about timers, who fucking cares if it has a timer eveything since 1985 has a timer. And you really mentioned that you have to be in for multilple cycles for your fancy timer to work ? 3 weeks of sitting in solb to do something any moron with a timex can do? GTFO

[Swishahouse]

Is that not clear to you as it is to the rest of us that they were yes indeed distancing themselves from you?



I guess a bunch of routine cover your ass rhetoric sounds like truth to you. That being said, you must also trust the talking heads on the nightly news as gospel, amirite?

Clearly, I'm not the authority on what all happened in this situation but if you think its that cut and dry you're downy BRO!

Nobody has to answer to anybody and at this point its not like keeping Koota on board after a little sniffing would have been a big issue to anyone but a bunch of criers here on these Rogean Uthboards.

I've known Koota for over 10 years now and regardless of some transgressions or mistakes hes a solid guy in game and in life.

What DA was attempting to distance themselves from is a bunch of little nitwits who were gonna make a bit shit fest over something that wasn't very GAME altering anyways.

They got banned for a week from raiding thereafter and as soon as that was lifted pretty much swept the target mobs from what I saw.

That being said you can draw two fairly easy conclusions:

A. Koota's actions weren't really giving them fuck all of an edge anyways or
B. Nothing has changed with Koota being gone as far someone sniffing

Not that I agree with much all of whats going on in the raiding scene on this server which is why I just said fuck it and joined R&F to relax and level some alts in the interim but the bottom line is this.

If DA were literally hacking into the fucking database as some of you folks are claiming there would be a trace of some sort, somewhere. I know for a fact these Guides and GMs are checking shit and checking it thrice with regards to that. SEQ's edge is greatly diminished when using variance and for any sake without variance how hard would it be to time a boss mob? People are just butthurt because they got out zerg'd by players who place more value into EQ raiding than those who are crying.

[Theldios]

I guess a bunch of routine cover your ass rhetoric sounds like truth to you. That being said, you must also trust the talking heads on the nightly news as gospel, amirite?

Clearly, I'm not the authority on what all happened in this situation but if you think its that cut and dry you're downy BRO!

Nobody has to answer to anybody and at this point its not like keeping Koota on board after a little sniffing would have been a big issue to anyone but a bunch of criers here on these Rogean Uthboards.

I've known Koota for over 10 years now and regardless of some transgressions or mistakes hes a solid guy in game and in life.

What DA was attempting to distance themselves from is a bunch of little nitwits who were gonna make a bit shit fest over something that wasn't very GAME altering anyways.

They got banned for a week from raiding thereafter and as soon as that was lifted pretty much swept the target mobs from what I saw.

That being said you can draw two fairly easy conclusions:

A. Koota's actions weren't really giving them fuck all of an edge anyways or
B. Nothing has changed with Koota being gone as far someone sniffing

Not that I agree with much all of whats going on in the raiding scene on this server which is why I just said fuck it and joined R&F to relax and level some alts in the interim but the bottom line is this.

If DA were literally hacking into the fucking database as some of you folks are claiming there would be a trace of some sort, somewhere. I know for a fact these Guides and GMs are checking shit and checking it thrice with regards to that. SEQ's edge is greatly diminished when using variance and for any sake without variance how hard would it be to time a boss mob? People are just butthurt because they got out zerg'd by players who place more value into EQ raiding than those who are crying.

You sir read way more into it then I actully put.
He asked for where did it say anything like that in the "cover" letter and denied there was anything like that in it.
All I did was point out that yes indeed there was something of a distancing and stating they would have kicked him
where you get the rest of this wall of text retoric that you spewed forth is only in your mind.

[Swishahouse]

To be truthful only the first part was directed towards you. The rest was simply a rash of observations and thoughts. I should have made that more clear!

[girth]

I guess a bunch of routine cover your ass rhetoric sounds like truth to you. That being said, you must also trust the talking heads on the nightly news as gospel, amirite?



Of course it was bullshit, that's the point. They wouldn't oust this guy for what he did, he's a hero to them and most likely doing exactly what his superiors wanted him to...he was probably offered level 50 characters to play right after this happened too. Grats on 60 people in game at one time by the way, you already got AoW numbers.

[Uberom]

ROBIN: MY SHOWEQ SAYS THAT NAGAFEN IS UP!!

BATMAN: http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/592/batmobileg.jpg

[Saskrotch]

Haters gonna hate.

[Koota]

They wouldn't oust this guy for what he did, he's a hero to them and most likely doing exactly what his superiors wanted him to...he was probably offered level 50 characters to play right after this happened too.

Cool assumption, bro.



I have other level 50's, I wouldn't need them to offer me any.

[Uberom]

Of course it was bullshit, that's the point. They wouldn't oust this guy for what he did, he's a hero to them and most likely doing exactly what his superiors wanted him to...he was probably offered level 50 characters to play right after this happened too. Grats on 60 people in game at one time by the way, you already got AoW numbers.

FREE leVEL 50's? WHAR?

[Molitoth]

Grats on 60 people in game at one time by the way, you already got AoW numbers.

Well, like your name suggests.... size matters. =)

[Lanvaren]

Well, like your name suggests.... size matters. =)
Some place too much emphasis on the above.

It's about how you use it, too.