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mitic
11-30-2010, 07:20 PM
and every single game to date sucks
i love eq, i love pvp
start a solid pvp server devs or else i will suicide
Give this guy an inch & he wants to be a ruler.
Lazortag
11-30-2010, 07:30 PM
and every single game to date sucks
i love eq, i love pvp
start a solid pvp server devs or else i will suicide
If you want pvp so bad, join a "red" guild. One of my alts is in one. Over time with enough numbers and enough people experiencing pvp, bug reports about pvp will flow in, and the devs will be able to fix some of the glaring problems with pvp. They can't start a pvp server unless they can fix all the bugs first. That's where you come in.
I also doubt they even want to start a pvp server, but even if they did, it would be horribly buggy and unbalanced and just wouldn't be fun for most people.
Supreme
11-30-2010, 07:54 PM
Give this guy an inch & he wants to be a ruler.
love it.
Airdefier
12-01-2010, 02:29 AM
new sig
jeffd
12-01-2010, 02:58 AM
psure my upcoming paladin is going to be dominating the pvp scene on this server (aka the 6 casual red alts)
big things inc
Lazortag
12-01-2010, 11:53 AM
psure my upcoming paladin is going to be dominating the pvp scene on this server (aka the 6 casual red alts)
big things inc
is your pally the motherfucker who blinded me? The erudite wearing rubicite and other stuff?
Trimm
12-01-2010, 11:57 AM
is your pally the motherfucker who blinded me? The erudite wearing rubicite and other stuff?
No, no sir that was me. :) Just a friendly blind to say hello.
Lazortag
12-01-2010, 11:59 AM
red rum is fuuuuuuucked.
Trimm
12-01-2010, 12:14 PM
You were that warrior in Oasis a few days ago? That I blinded on your CR? We had a nice little hunting party waiting for you at the docks, but I think you logged or something.
I'm looking forward to the low level pvp, seems a lot of people are interested in it.
Pvp will only rock if it has the original rules from when it first launched. The EQ pvp servers on live are just garbage now.
jeffd
12-01-2010, 03:09 PM
is your pally the motherfucker who blinded me? The erudite wearing rubicite and other stuff?
i'd never be wearing overrated trash like rubicite :cool:
Lazortag
12-01-2010, 04:31 PM
You were that warrior in Oasis a few days ago?
No, my alt is a mage.
mitic
12-01-2010, 06:25 PM
If you want pvp so bad, join a "red" guild. One of my alts is in one. Over time with enough numbers and enough people experiencing pvp, bug reports about pvp will flow in, and the devs will be able to fix some of the glaring problems with pvp.
now this is the solution! iam wondering why noone else came with this idea in the whole history of eq-emu!!!
oh wait...
mitic
12-01-2010, 06:45 PM
Pvp will only rock if it has the original rules from when it first launched. The EQ pvp servers on live are just garbage now.
there has been such a server here on eq emu like 2 years ago (300 players at peak time) but the golden times of vz/tz are over after the 3rd (?) replacement of the staff.
daxums vz/tz 1.0, where are thou! rogean make it happen!!!! ill postpone my suicide for a another day meanwhile
Lazortag
12-01-2010, 07:07 PM
now this is the solution! iam wondering why noone else came with this idea in the whole history of eq-emu!!!
oh wait...
What exactly is wrong with what I suggested? No one was willing to go "red" until recently because no one else was doing it. This is a typical collective action problem.
mitic
12-02-2010, 05:00 PM
What exactly is wrong with what I suggested? No one was willing to go "red" until recently because no one else was doing it. This is a typical collective action problem.
two different worlds on one server did not work on live and will never work on emu
Lazortag
12-02-2010, 05:14 PM
two different worlds on one server did not work on live and will never work on emu
Are you going to provide actual reasoning in your next post? I think a hybrid pvp/pve server would work just fine. There's certainly enough demand. Just flag your character red and join Red Rum or FoH. It's that easy.
mitic
12-02-2010, 05:32 PM
Are you going to provide actual reasoning in your next post? I think a hybrid pvp/pve server would work just fine. There's certainly enough demand. Just flag your character red and join Red Rum or FoH. It's that easy.
its actually you who has to provide reasoning since it has been tried a quadrillion of times to go red on a blue server (and i played on alot of blue servers since 1999). just ask your local priest of discord on how many books have been turned in the last 11 years.
the novelty of going red on a blue server wears off pretty fast..those red rum or fohs wont last long, mark my words
its actually you who has to provide reasoning since it has been tried a quadrillion of times to go red on a blue server (and i played on alot of blue servers since 1999). just ask your local priest of discord on how many books have been turned in the last 11 years.
the novelty of going red on a blue server wears off pretty fast..those red rum or fohs wont last long, mark my words
Unfortunately, I think Mitic is right about that. Nonetheless, I'm still going to give it a try. If guilds could go to war with one another, I think that'd be best. Then the guilds could fight over camps/spawns.
Lazortag
12-02-2010, 05:43 PM
its actually you who has to provide reasoning since it has been tried a quadrillion of times to go red on a blue server (and i played on alot of blue servers since 1999). just ask your local priest of discord on how many books have been turned in the last 11 years.
the novelty of going red on a blue server wears off pretty fast..those red rum or fohs wont last long, mark my words
p99 is clearly very different because you have a large pvp-loving population on a pve server with no other alternative. On Live you could just choose a pvp server if you wanted.
mitic
12-02-2010, 05:51 PM
and thats the point! there has been a red server with a healthy population (300+) for more than 2 years before P99 opened. unfotunately staff changed and the server went to hell after
P99-devs know what they are doing so a new P99-pvp server would definitely be a success! i still have lots of contacts from vz/tz...every single player would come back in a heartbeat
Lazortag
12-02-2010, 07:47 PM
and thats the point! there has been a red server with a healthy population (300+) for more than 2 years before P99 opened. unfotunately staff changed and the server went to hell after
P99-devs know what they are doing so a new P99-pvp server would definitely be a success! i still have lots of contacts from vz/tz...every single player would come back in a heartbeat
Okay. I'm just going to repeat what I said before. Hypothetically, assume the devs are willing to start a pvp server eventually. Why not help them with the bugs that currently exist in pvp, by going red on p99, and testing out pvp for them? Meanwhile you can help those of us who are optimistic about the idea of forming "red guilds".
mitic
12-03-2010, 06:09 AM
Okay. I'm just going to repeat what I said before. Hypothetically, assume the devs are willing to start a pvp server eventually. Why not help them with the bugs that currently exist in pvp, by going red on p99, and testing out pvp for them? Meanwhile you can help those of us who are optimistic about the idea of forming "red guilds".
there is no rocket science involved starting a red server with the code of blue servers at hand. i do even have the code of old vz/tz on my hard drive but i dont have the ressources to start one.
and wasting time by going red on a blue server just because hypothetically a red server could happen in the future is a no go for any pvper wanting to play in a full pvp environment.
Lazortag
12-03-2010, 10:14 AM
there is no rocket science involved starting a red server with the code of blue servers at hand. i do even have the code of old vz/tz on my hard drive but i dont have the ressources to start one.
Are you ignorant of all of the bugs involving pvp right now? Spells randomly don't land, they don't give visible messages pertaining to whether they land/fail/wear off/etc., melee damage is completely fucked, resists are totally wrong, dispell doesn't work as it should, and so on. Also there are still ways of hacking to get an advantage which pvp incentivizes, so they'd have to fix that too. They could never make a pvp server before resolving these issues.
and wasting time by going red on a blue server just because hypothetically a red server could happen in the future is a no go for any pvper wanting to play in a full pvp environment.
Then you're never going to get a pvp server, because of the above.
Messianic
12-03-2010, 10:31 AM
there is no rocket science involved starting a red server with the code of blue servers at hand.
It's not rocket science, but it takes a lot of friggin time. So unless you're personally willing to invest the time, don't bother. PvP is coded very differently from PvE, so it's not so easy as just copying p1999's current code to a new server and forcing red tags on everyone.
I've always personally felt that EQ pvp was clumsy and pointless, but to each their own...
mitic
12-03-2010, 10:34 AM
newsflash, there has been always hacking involved in pvp servers and btw, i hope you dont realy think that P99 is played legit by everyone.
its actually you that is ignorant since there is a difference in the code between a blue and a red server. the things they fix here wont necessary work the same on a purely red environment.
mitic
12-03-2010, 10:42 AM
It's not rocket science, but it takes a lot of friggin time. So unless you're personally willing to invest the time, don't bother. PvP is coded very differently from PvE, so it's not so easy as just copying p1999's current code to a new server and forcing red tags on everyone.
I've always personally felt that EQ pvp was clumsy and pointless, but to each their own...
as i said before i have the code of vz/tz, iam just not a coder nor do i have the ressources to run a server.
are you a coder since u know that it takes alot of time or r u just spewing out some words that come out of your mind?
Tristin
12-03-2010, 11:08 AM
and thats the point! there has been a red server with a healthy population (300+) for more than 2 years before P99 opened. unfotunately staff changed and the server went to hell after
P99-devs know what they are doing so a new P99-pvp server would definitely be a success! i still have lots of contacts from vz/tz...every single player would come back in a heartbeat
this ^ sup mitic?
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