Don't join <Clue>

[Peener]

Or at the very least, please be aware that if you join Clue and ask for help taking down a spawn you've been camping, they'll send a zerg force of 80 mouth-breathing idiots who will effectively steal the camp from you and random the drops.

I'm a 58 bard. I've been camping Lodizal off-and-on for the past few days, and today I was lucky enough to have him spawn. Since I was by myself, I had two options: 1) ask guildies for help, or 2) call my RL friends who agreed to log in to kill him if needed. I figured since <Clue> had quite a few people online, it would be easier to just ask them.

I told everyone in guildchat I had tagged Lodizal and I could use some assistance. I kited him around while I waited for (what I thought would be) 2 or 3 people to port in. When I brought Lodizal back to his spawn loc, there were no less than 12 <Clue> members waiting for me. Half of them were under level 55.

Lodizal died almost instantaneously.

Now here's where I admittedly messed up - I didn't speak up when the "raid" leader Rainbowcop started randoming off Lodizal's loot. I was a little jittery and excited from actually getting the spawn, and in the back of my head I was thinking that no decent person would simply random off everything without giving me anything since I'd been the one camping it for days on end.

But that's exactly what they did.


I'm not claiming that the spawn was KSed from me (since I invited them to help), and I'm not suggesting there was any formal violation of the p1999 rules. I just want everyone to know what to expect if you join <Clue>.

(EDIT: Sorry just realized this probably belongs in R&F...)

[contemptor]

Just so ya know, technically you are the one who was violating rules, for kiting Lodizal.

[quido]

only illegal if someone is there trying to contest, ya moran

[Wonkie]

the bitching about you in clue chat afterwards was pretty disgusting

hey this guy who just got us lodizal? what an asshole he is!

[wormed]

Just so ya know, technically you are the one who was violating rules, for kiting Lodizal.

Hey, a mouth-breather from BDA saying mouth-breather stupid things. Thanks for making this thread BDA approved.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Maybe speak up next time?

[dafier]

Maybe speak up next time?

Yes....this.

I understand you were really excited but you need to be clear in /guild. Let them know you've been camping him and that you need X item, you tagged him and need a bit of help bringing him down.

Unless everyone in clue is ABSOLUTELY a retard, I am sure they would come help and allow you to loot X item then random the rest.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

It's the holidays, lots of crazy stuff happens. My Mom got too drunk as usual, and just like last year, I had to cook the ham.

So I feel ya.

[captnamazing]

.

[Peener]

Generally, when you open up a raid spawn to a guild...

Firstly, Lodizal is not a raid spawn. Lodizal is easily doable by 2-4 people. Randoming loot as a raid policy makes perfect sense.

Secondly, I didn't track him. I sat in a single spot for 40+ hours waiting for him to spawn. This is known as "camping."

[Peener]

Yes....this.

I understand you were really excited but you need to be clear in /guild. Let them know you've been camping him and that you need X item, you tagged him and need a bit of help bringing him down.

Unless everyone in clue is ABSOLUTELY a retard, I am sure they would come help and allow you to loot X item then random the rest.

So you're saying that, while kiting Lodizal across Iceclad, I need to establish a dialogue in guildchat that I do, in fact, need something from the mob I've been sitting around camping for over 40 hours, and that I wasn't just doing this so some random level 52 rogue could loot a Belt of the Great Turtle?

Would you recommend I do that same shit if I were a cleric camped in BW for IF? That would actually make more sense because you need more than 3 people to kill IF.

Like I said, I'm not asking for them to give me back any of the loot they got. I just want anyone who's considering joining <clue> to be aware that they do some incredibly underhanded bullshit..

[nyclin]

it would have been nice if the officer/"raid" leader contacted you to see if you needed something, but if you just said "help me with lodizal plz" in gc with no context i can see why they didn't

[Tankdan]

Thats pretty fucked up <Clue>, not gonna lie.

[Cecily]

This thread is giving me such a raging clue right now. I think we'd better follow it.

[tristantio]

http://s2.dmcdn.net/AqXPj/526x297-U1P.jpg

[Baler]

http://oi66.tinypic.com/35i8vpi.jpg

[MavstabYoudead]

I'm a 58 bard. I've been camping Lodizal off-and-on for the past few days, and today I was lucky enough to have him spawn. Since I was by myself, I had two options: 1) ask guildies for help, or 2) call my RL friends who agreed to log in to kill him if needed. I figured since <Clue> had quite a few people online, it would be easier to just ask them.

Now here's where I admittedly messed up - I didn't speak up when the "raid" leader Rainbowcop started randoming off Lodizal's loot. I was a little jittery and excited from actually getting the spawn, and in the back of my head I was thinking that no decent person would simply random off everything without giving me anything since I'd been the one camping it for days on end.


So you are camping a mob you admittedly know you can't kill. You didn't camp the mob for days on end it has set windows and you called in your guild for help. Sounds like poor planning on your part.

[Troxx]

So you are camping a mob you admittedly know you can't kill. You didn't camp the mob for days on end it has set windows and you called in your guild for help. Sounds like poor planning on your part.

If there was any other group capable of killin Lodi in the zone and ready to engage, the OP broke the rules. Even if you were the only there when he spawned, if others were there before clue the OP broke the rules.

If the OP had the zone or area literally uninhabited and uncontested, you still shouldn't be FTE-info anything you can't engage.

At the end of the day, you camped something you couldn't kill. You called it your guild in to help and then got pissy when they randomed the loot? To make matters worse you then flame your own guild (or ex guild) for your own lack of planning?

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Clue but you're 100% in the wrong here on multiple levels. You broke the rules and are now playing the douchebag card. If you really needed an item you should have discussed it before hand. Instead you decided to make a fool out of yourself.

If you can't kill it don't engage it. Unless you work it out before hand, don't bitch when the loot is randomed amongst those who helped kill what you could not rightfully kill without them.

PS: take it from a 60 bard ... as a 58 bard you don't really fit into any small kill squad capable of taking down Lodi in any meaningful way. You're not a shaman landing the critical turgurs or unresistable malo. You don't have torpor or complete heal. You aren't going to reliably tank it better than a monk, knight, warrior or hell ... Ranger. You'll add some insignificant dps and some unnecessary mana regen. Having you there is better than not, but you'd still be riding the coat tails of any squad that could drop it with so few. So what does that mean? If you don't fit the class archetypes that routinely kill Lodi with 3-4, don't bitch when two groups show up.

You sound like a greedy asshole.

PPS: you are not legitimately allows to "camp" anything campable without a capable force on hand. You effectively, stupidly, sat alone by yourself for a mob you couldn't kill by yourself and then illegally kited Lodi away from his spawn area depriving any other small crew from doing what you were not prepared to do.

This thread belongs in RnF.

I predict an epic backfire.

[eisley]

posting in an entitlement thread

[baue1446]

If there was any other group capable of killin Lodi in the zone and ready to engage, the OP broke the rules. Even if you were the only there when he spawned, if others were there before clue the OP broke the rules.

If the OP had the zone or area literally uninhabited and uncontested, you still shouldn't be FTE-info anything you can't engage.

At the end of the day, you camped something you couldn't kill. You called it your guild in to help and then got pissy when they randomed the loot? To make matters worse you then flame your own guild (or ex guild) for your own lack of planning?

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Clue but you're 100% in the wrong here on multiple levels. You broke the rules and are now playing the douchebag card. If you really needed an item you should have discussed it before hand. Instead you decided to make a fool out of yourself.

If you can't kill it don't engage it. Unless you work it out before hand, don't bitch when the loot is randomed amongst those who helped kill what you could not rightfully kill without them.

PS: take it from a 60 bard ... as a 58 bard you don't really fit into any small kill squad capable of taking down Lodi in any meaningful way. You're not a shaman landing the critical turgurs or unresistable malo. You don't have torpor or complete heal. You aren't going to reliably tank it better than a monk, knight, warrior or hell ... Ranger. You'll add some insignificant dps and some unnecessary mana regen. Having you there is better than not, but you'd still be riding the coat tails of any squad that could drop it with so few. So what does that mean? If you don't fit the class archetypes that routinely kill Lodi with 3-4, don't bitch when two groups show up.

You sound like a greedy asshole.

PPS: you are not legitimately allows to "camp" anything campable without a capable force on hand. You effectively, stupidly, sat alone by yourself for a mob you couldn't kill by yourself and then illegally kited Lodi away from his spawn area depriving any other small crew from doing what you were not prepared to do.

This thread belongs in RnF.

I predict an epic backfire.

Spot on dude... exactly what needed to be said. Hes upset the people he called to save him wanted roll? Thats like me rolling into ToV and finding Vulak up and saying "MINE" then call in 70 people and tell them they cannot roll. OP is a douche that was not prepared for the mob he was camping.

[Ruinous]

Your guild came to help you kill a mob you couldn't kill alone, a mob you didn't CAMP in any definition of the word since you didn't kill any placeholder(s) to make it spawn, and then they random'd the loot to those who participated in killing said mob...

WEIRD DUDE, WTF. THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY!

Not really. You sound really entitled and upset that you gambled by calling in guildmates and lost the roll on an item you wanted. Honestly, the 52 rogue probably contributed more to the fight than you did. You literally waited in a zone for a mob to spawn without having contributed anything to making it spawn. Wow, gee, you totally deserve first pick of the crop for that... :rolleyes:

[OfftuneRZ]

Blue server problems.... If you were on red you couldve been snared and xp deathed by a rival guild! Try Red!!

[QFuzzle]

If there was any other group capable of killin Lodi in the zone and ready to engage, the OP broke the rules. Even if you were the only there when he spawned, if others were there before clue the OP broke the rules.

If the OP had the zone or area literally uninhabited and uncontested, you still shouldn't be FTE-info anything you can't engage.

At the end of the day, you camped something you couldn't kill. You called it your guild in to help and then got pissy when they randomed the loot? To make matters worse you then flame your own guild (or ex guild) for your own lack of planning?

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Clue but you're 100% in the wrong here on multiple levels. You broke the rules and are now playing the douchebag card. If you really needed an item you should have discussed it before hand. Instead you decided to make a fool out of yourself.

If you can't kill it don't engage it. Unless you work it out before hand, don't bitch when the loot is randomed amongst those who helped kill what you could not rightfully kill without them.

PS: take it from a 60 bard ... as a 58 bard you don't really fit into any small kill squad capable of taking down Lodi in any meaningful way. You're not a shaman landing the critical turgurs or unresistable malo. You don't have torpor or complete heal. You aren't going to reliably tank it better than a monk, knight, warrior or hell ... Ranger. You'll add some insignificant dps and some unnecessary mana regen. Having you there is better than not, but you'd still be riding the coat tails of any squad that could drop it with so few. So what does that mean? If you don't fit the class archetypes that routinely kill Lodi with 3-4, don't bitch when two groups show up.

You sound like a greedy asshole.

PPS: you are not legitimately allows to "camp" anything campable without a capable force on hand. You effectively, stupidly, sat alone by yourself for a mob you couldn't kill by yourself and then illegally kited Lodi away from his spawn area depriving any other small crew from doing what you were not prepared to do.

This thread belongs in RnF.

I predict an epic backfire.

This is the epic backfire.

[Corpsed]

Did you roll on the loot OP?

[jcr4990]

Clue doing shady bullshit at Lodizal? Like peeling FTE off of BDA cause they somehow didn't feel we had an adequate force to kill it. Even though the FTE'er was pulling Lodi to the portal where an entire group had ported in?

Not the first time Clue's been idiots at Lodi. Won't be the last.

[Peener]

If there was any other group capable of killin Lodi in the zone and ready to engage, the OP broke the rules. Even if you were the only there when he spawned, if others were there before clue the OP broke the rules.

If the OP had the zone or area literally uninhabited and uncontested, you still shouldn't be FTE-info anything you can't engage.

At the end of the day, you camped something you couldn't kill. You called it your guild in to help and then got pissy when they randomed the loot? To make matters worse you then flame your own guild (or ex guild) for your own lack of planning?

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Clue but you're 100% in the wrong here on multiple levels. You broke the rules and are now playing the douchebag card. If you really needed an item you should have discussed it before hand. Instead you decided to make a fool out of yourself.

If you can't kill it don't engage it. Unless you work it out before hand, don't bitch when the loot is randomed amongst those who helped kill what you could not rightfully kill without them.

PS: take it from a 60 bard ... as a 58 bard you don't really fit into any small kill squad capable of taking down Lodi in any meaningful way. You're not a shaman landing the critical turgurs or unresistable malo. You don't have torpor or complete heal. You aren't going to reliably tank it better than a monk, knight, warrior or hell ... Ranger. You'll add some insignificant dps and some unnecessary mana regen. Having you there is better than not, but you'd still be riding the coat tails of any squad that could drop it with so few. So what does that mean? If you don't fit the class archetypes that routinely kill Lodi with 3-4, don't bitch when two groups show up.

You sound like a greedy asshole.

PPS: you are not legitimately allows to "camp" anything campable without a capable force on hand. You effectively, stupidly, sat alone by yourself for a mob you couldn't kill by yourself and then illegally kited Lodi away from his spawn area depriving any other small crew from doing what you were not prepared to do.

This thread belongs in RnF.

I predict an epic backfire.

The first problem with your argument is you can't fucking read. This is Christmas break. I have a group of RL friends (one of whom IS a shaman) who were prepared to login and help me with him. I wouldn't have spent any amount of time camping him unless I had a plan to take him down.

The second problem is you're fabricating shit. When Lodizal spawned, there were 6 people in the zone. The only other 55+ person was an AFK druid right next to him who he immediately killed (and then proceeded to aggro me). I didn't take the spawn from any capable group.

In retrospect, it was stupid to ask <Clue> for help instead of my RL friends, but the whole point is it shouldn't have been.

[MavstabYoudead]

The first problem with your argument is you can't fucking read. This is Christmas break. I have a group of RL friends (one of whom IS a shaman) who were prepared to login and help me with him. I wouldn't have spent any amount of time camping him unless I had a plan to take him down.

The second problem is you're fabricating shit. When Lodizal spawned, there were 6 people in the zone. The only other 55+ person was an AFK druid right next to him who he immediately killed (and then proceeded to aggro me). I didn't take the spawn from any capable group.

In retrospect, it was stupid to ask <Clue> for help instead of my RL friends, but the whole point is it shouldn't have been.

bard and shaman aren't duoing and lodizal and obviously your RL friends weren't there to help or you wouldn't have called your guild (probably former at this point and good for them).

plan better and don't start threads that just make you look bad. would have been simple to say /gu lodizal is up I have fte will anyone come help I will be taking the map or shell or whatever, but your failure to think didn't allow for that. also not hard to type as a bard with selos on and kiting you have plenty of time.

[Troxx]

Lol

Good luck joining another guild.

Is your in-game name Peener?

[indiscriminate_hater]

OP sounds like a real straight shooter with BDA written all over him

[Corpsed]

I am assuming you rolled on the loot and lost, is that correct? If you had won, would this amazing thread ever have been born?

[Troxx]

Clue doing shady bullshit at Lodizal? Like peeling FTE off of BDA cause they somehow didn't feel we had an adequate force to kill it. Even though the FTE'er was pulling Lodi to the portal where an entire group had ported in?

Not the first time Clue's been idiots at Lodi. Won't be the last.

Just asking, but did BDA have adequate force IN THE ZONE when the puller got FTE in the first place?

Like I said, I've no love for Clue (I actually do not like them as a guild), but having a kill squad port in moments after you guys got FTE is a far cry from having all members present in the zone when he spawned and was engaged.

I am assuming you rolled on the loot and lost, is that correct? If you had won, would this amazing thread ever have been born?

My guess would be no.

OP is just a greedy twat with sand in his.

[azeth]

Firstly, Lodizal is not a raid spawn. Lodizal is easily doable by 2-4 people. Randoming loot as a raid policy makes perfect sense.

Secondly, I didn't track him. I sat in a single spot for 40+ hours waiting for him to spawn. This is known as "camping."

fte message = raid rules mob imo

cant kite, cant stall

[Raghnar]

Clue doing shady bullshit at Lodizal? Like peeling FTE off of BDA cause they somehow didn't feel we had an adequate force to kill it. Even though the FTE'er was pulling Lodi to the portal where an entire group had ported in?

Not the first time Clue's been idiots at Lodi. Won't be the last.

Says the eighth ring thief.

Folks this is a bard. He probably got to 58 by making life hell in every zone he went to with his swarms. Bards are the scum under whale dung, just above the thief known as Trollolol's <BDA>

[am0n]

Thats pretty fucked up <Clue>, not gonna lie.

Sounds like a standup guild.

[thufir]

Just asking, but did BDA have adequate force IN THE ZONE when the puller got FTE in the first place?

Like I said, I've no love for Clue (I actually do not like them as a guild), but having a kill squad port in moments after you guys got FTE is a far cry from having all members present in the zone when he spawned and was engaged.
Puller tagged prior to arrival of BDA kill force in zone. Clue gave them the 20 or so seconds the PnP calls for, no kill force still in zone, then Clue took the Lodi.

[TheFaceless]

Wow OP is a whiny bitch. Can't kill mob, can't get RL friends to come, expects guildmates they don't know to drop everything to come help, yet they get no chance at loot. Get real. And then they make a forum post trying to blame guild for their incompetence. Winning.

[jcr4990]

Puller tagged prior to arrival of BDA kill force in zone. Clue gave them the 20 or so seconds the PnP calls for, no kill force still in zone, then Clue took the Lodi.

Clue being a guild that doesn't really raid on P99 its understandable that you wouldn't know how the raid rules work. But when someone grabs FTE on a raid mob and pulls it in a straight line towards the camp they intend to kill the mob at. It doesn't matter if its 20 seconds or 5 minutes to get the mob to camp. It's not kiting/stalling its pulling. There was MORE than enough to kill Lodi waiting at the port in waaaay before Lodi would've reached camp before Clue decided the rules don't apply to them (or just didn't know what the rules are) and peeled and killed Lodi. It's my understanding that GM's ruled it was BDA's mob after investigating it /shrug

[thufir]

Clue being a guild that doesn't really raid on P99 its understandable that you wouldn't know how the raid rules work. But when someone grabs FTE on a raid mob and pulls it in a straight line towards the camp they intend to kill the mob at. It doesn't matter if its 20 seconds or 5 minutes to get the mob to camp. It's not kiting/stalling its pulling. There was MORE than enough to kill Lodi waiting at the port in waaaay before Lodi would've reached camp before Clue decided the rules don't apply to them (or just didn't know what the rules are) and peeled and killed Lodi. It's my understanding that GM's ruled it was BDA's mob after investigating it /shrug
Shrug, OK. That's not how I heard it, but it's good to have he said / she said without too many insults. I heard BDA druid tagged with no other BDA in zone and was hoping for kill force to arrive ASAP.

I wasn't there, was just listening to /gu when it was happening. If GM ruled, then GM ruled.

[Erati]

as soon as I ensnared Lodizal today a knock on my door occurred and I was served.

#lodirulelawyers4life

[Odann]

Wait, is OP actually in this guild? If so that's pretty lame they didn't offer him anything.

[Raev]

OP sounds like a real straight shooter with BDA written all over him

Also, why on earth are you prioritizing a Belt of the Great Turtle as a Bard?

[Peener]

Also, why on earth are you prioritizing a Belt of the Great Turtle as a Bard?

Who the fuck said I was? I just made the point that I didn't spend 40 hours of my life sitting around so some cunt rogue could loot a belt.

[Secrets]

To be fair none of these rules existed under the PnP on EQLive.

[Peener]

bard and shaman aren't duoing and lodizal and obviously your RL friends weren't there to help or you wouldn't have called your guild (probably former at this point and good for them).

plan better and don't start threads that just make you look bad. would have been simple to say /gu lodizal is up I have fte will anyone come help I will be taking the map or shell or whatever, but your failure to think didn't allow for that. also not hard to type as a bard with selos on and kiting you have plenty of time.

Okay. I'm gonna stop responding to retarded drivel like this because every knuckle dragging shithead making this argument is either in <clue> or can't read. Or both.

Stop saying my RL friends weren't there or I didn't have a plan. I could've easily gotten a warrior, shaman and rogue to help me take down Lodizal.

Why didn't I? Because I didn't think it mattered. I thought help was help. I didn't expect that my tardswarm of a guild would come in and steal the shit I FTE'd. I thought it was common decency that the guy who sits there for days waiting for something to spawn should get, well, fucking something.

I've been playing EQ for since Kunark live, and I've helped guildies kill shit like IF in BW or IB in Chardok dozens of times. I never ONCE thought to fucking random on the shit they dropped. Explain to me how this circumstance is any different.

This wasn't a raid mob. It's not as if it was an equal effort from everyone involved. A zerg swarm of 13 people under level 55 (half of whom didn't do anything throughout the fight) showed up and effectively stole it.

I'm not saying I was faultless here, but if you're going to argue the point stop making up total bullshit about how I broke rules by kiting the mob (even though there was no one there) or that I didn't have options.

[Man0warr]

In my experience, if you are tracking for a non-raid/epic mob (Like Lodizal, Ragefire, VSR, Undead Bard) then you get the pick of the loot (be it map piece, epic quest piece, whatever) and random the rest for the people that helped you out.

However, if you didn't spell that out to the people you asked to help, I'm not sure what recourse you have.

[nyclin]

I could've easily gotten a warrior, shaman and rogue to help me take down Lodizal.

so why didn't you? you put in the effort to camp it, why not guarantee that you & your friends profit from your efforts?

Explain to me how this circumstance is any different.

clue is just a bunch of randoms under a guild tag, your guild on live wasn't

[Peener]

so why didn't you? you put in the effort to camp it, why not guarantee that you & your friends profit from your efforts?

I can't tell if this is just a way to sarcastically troll me after I claimed no one on this thread can read. Check what I wrote literally in the next sentence.

[Kayso]

Why would I not want to join Clue? Having a cuck bard camp loot for you to just roll in and random on sounds pretty legit. Better than free recharges and an armor gem here and there if you ask me.

[xKoopa]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9nXEtq78wI4/hqdefault.jpg

[nyclin]

I thought help was help.

now you know better, welcome to p99

[Tasslehofp99]

Why would I not want to join Clue? Having a cuck bard camp loot for you to just roll in and random on sounds pretty legit. Better than free recharges and an armor gem here and there if you ask me.

hahahahahahahahahahahah

[Safon]

If the guy spent days to get the Lodizal spawn I feel that entitles him to at least one guaranteed drop, showing up to help down it if you have nothing better to do is what good guildies do.

That said, OP certainly is not blameless, and I fully agree that most bards are the scum of the server swarming their way to 60 with little regard for the others.

[Arkanjil]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9nXEtq78wI4/hqdefault.jpg

[Filthy_Pagan]

"I'm mad because I got other people to kill something for me and they didn't give me the loot I was entitled to!" -OP

[Wisteso]

Unless everyone in clue is ABSOLUTELY a retard...

FTFY

Just kidding, there's maybe 1 or 2 that aren't.

[Troxx]

"I'm mad because I got other people to kill something for me and they didn't give me the loot I was entitled to!" -OP

[Stormfists]

Tldr;

Guy scouts mob.
Guy doesn't tell raid he need loot from mob.
Raid rolls loot, guy still silent.
Raid loots loot, guy blows up.
Guy posts rnf.
Guy gets owned.
Rainbowcop illuminati confirmed.

[Pokesan]

actually Rainbowcop is from texas but lacks horns

[Peener]

Thanks for stopping by to share your retarded opinion with us, Stormfists.

[Stormfists]

Thanks for stopping by to share your retarded opinion with us, Stormfists.

http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Haters-Gonna-Hate-Meme-Leonardo-05.png

[Pokesan]

http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Haters-Gonna-Hate-Meme-Leonardo-05.png

dang. burnt.

you get that from grandmas facebook dawg?

[Stormfists]

dang. burnt.

you get that from grandmas facebook dawg?

Yes. Retort?

[MavstabYoudead]

Okay. I'm gonna stop responding to retarded drivel like this because every knuckle dragging shithead making this argument is either in <clue> or can't read. Or both.

Stop saying my RL friends weren't there or I didn't have a plan. I could've easily gotten a warrior, shaman and rogue to help me take down Lodizal.

Why didn't I? Because I didn't think it mattered. I thought help was help. I didn't expect that my tardswarm of a guild would come in and steal the shit I FTE'd. I thought it was common decency that the guy who sits there for days waiting for something to spawn should get, well, fucking something.

I've been playing EQ for since Kunark live, and I've helped guildies kill shit like IF in BW or IB in Chardok dozens of times. I never ONCE thought to fucking random on the shit they dropped. Explain to me how this circumstance is any different.

This wasn't a raid mob. It's not as if it was an equal effort from everyone involved. A zerg swarm of 13 people under level 55 (half of whom didn't do anything throughout the fight) showed up and effectively stole it.

I'm not saying I was faultless here, but if you're going to argue the point stop making up total bullshit about how I broke rules by kiting the mob (even though there was no one there) or that I didn't have options.

if you can't see the difference it's no wonder you coming off looking like a complete moron.

p.s. if it gives a zone-wide FTE message it's considered a raid mob.

[bktroost]

The moment you engage a mob without either having a kill force or pulling it directly to a prepped or camped kill force you broke the rules on p99. You cannot FTE a non triggered mob and kite it without killing it (a.k.a. you can kill a mob by kiting it but that makes you the kill force mentioned).

Do you want to complain on the forums or get results? Clue is not a fault and you need a kill force on the island with you if there is competition in zone. If not, you still take a risk waiting for friends to port in before you FTE

Those are your two options. Kiting a non triggered mob is not one of them.

[derpcake]

To be fair none of these rules existed under the PnP on EQLive.

on eqlive you could kite as long as you wanted, thats not the case here

given more time to invite people while running the mob around would have solved this

wish server was more classic in several aspects

[derpcake]

thats why red is A+ btw :)

[Troxx]

on eqlive you could kite as long as you wanted, thats not the case here

given more time to invite people while running the mob around would have solved this

wish server was more classic in several aspects

Yeah ... THAT change would make the sever better ... :rolleyes:

Neckbeards would take turns kiting Gorenaire et al around for hours if needed waiting on numbers to log in.

Not good.

[Filthy_Pagan]

It sounds like this guy isn't raid guild material tbh.

Raid guilds work together to strengthen the guild so that the guild can hit tougher targets. It's a needs of the many vs the needs of the few thing.

Mr Spock would Vulcan dick slap you, peener. If you're in a raid guild, you need to be thinking of the raid guild.

[Peener]

It sounds like this guy isn't raid guild material tbh.

Raid guilds work together to strengthen the guild so that the guild can hit tougher targets. It's a needs of the many vs the needs of the few thing.

Mr Spock would Vulcan dick slap you, peener. If you're in a raid guild, you need to be thinking of the raid guild.

No, you're right. That's a great point. Outfitting a zerg army of level 53's with shit from Lodizal is emblematic of any top-tier raiding guild.

[kroissant]

How long were you in Clue for and did you go to any of their raids? Aint they super casual and random on everything during raids, so what were you expecting?

If you wanted something that bad, you should of gotten your friends. The situation sucks but don't blame them for your mistake. Its your fault for not setting out the expectations out ahead of time. Did anyone else knew you were sitting there for days tracking? Did you say ahead of time that you were tracking Lodizal and if he pops, you will need help and that you only wanted X item, everything else can be random off? If you didn't say that before hand than your lost really.

[Peener]

I give up. Everyone posting here is either a shit-eating <clue> retard or simply can't read. Most of your arguments boil down to "well that's what you get for trusting <clue>" which was my entire point to begin with.

[Stormfists]

I give up. Everyone posting here is either a shit-eating <clue> retard or simply can't read. Most of your arguments boil down to "well that's what you get for trusting <clue>" which was my entire point to begin with.

Until last week you were a shit eating <Clue>, probably why you're getting a hard time.

[kroissant]

No, we definitely got it. You want to tarnish the Clue guild and make sure no one else joins it. Are they better leveling up guilds or smaller guilds out there? Yes definitely. However you keep trying to prove that you were right and Clue should of showed more decency to let you have a least a piece of loot.

There are people here that are officers of their respective guild trying to explain to you the server rules on fte but you can't help but to call them idiots and blah blah blah.

Clue is a super casual guild, most everyone is mid 50's. The ones that are 60 will lead kael raids here and there but they random on everything. That's how they function and that's what they been doing. Just because you expected a different treatment don't make them wrong.

What people are trying to tell you is get over it. If you want loot for camping something then just play with your friends or find another guild.

[Peener]

No, we definitely got it. You want to tarnish the Clue guild and make sure no one else joins it. Are they better leveling up guilds or smaller guilds out there? Yes definitely. However you keep trying to prove that you were right and Clue should of showed more decency to let you have a least a piece of loot.

I'm not trying to prove anything. What's done is done. I'm only calling people shitheads who are making the argument that a random level 53 rogue who ports in just in time to do 3 rounds of damage is just as deserving as the guy who sat around for four days camping the spawn.


There are people here that are officers of their respective guild trying to explain to you the server rules on fte but you can't help but to call them idiots and blah blah blah.


These are the people who can't read. FTE has absolutely nothing to do with anything. There was no one else in the zone capable of kiting and/or killing Lodizal. I've said this at least twice.


Clue is a super casual guild, most everyone is mid 50's. The ones that are 60 will lead kael raids here and there but they random on everything. That's how they function and that's what they been doing. Just because you expected a different treatment don't make them wrong.



Lodizal is not a raid mob. This was not a raid. Raids have nothing to do with anything. This was 13 people showing up and randoming on something that could've been easily killed by 3 people.


What people are trying to tell you is get over it. If you want loot for camping something then just play with your friends or find another guild.


"If you don't want to get fucked over when you camp something, you should've just asked your friends."

The entire point of this thread.

[indiscriminate_hater]

officially upgraded to a 4-alarm backfire thread since OP is still posting

[Peener]

officially upgraded to a 4-alarm backfire thread since OP is still posting

No, I'm done now. I hope your cat gets hit by a car.

[Spyder73]

No, I'm done now. I hope your cat gets hit by a car.

Definitive backfire thread of 2015 - YIKES

Guy mad that no one wants to kill mobs for him - self entitled sh!t

[indiscriminate_hater]

No, I'm done now. I hope your cat gets hit by a car.

defensive posting and personal attacks = 2-alarm RnF meltdown

[Stormfists]

So much self pwnage in this thread...

It truly is Christmas!

[barrettdc1]

You guys are all fucking idiots, if this happened to you you'd be fucking crying on the forum just as hard. The guy camped a mob for a week and asked guild for help, they helped and he got dicked out of loot which is bullshit. If it weren't for him they wouldn't have known the fucking mob was up.

[Filthy_Pagan]

I give up. Everyone posting here is either a shit-eating <clue> retard or simply can't read. Most of your arguments boil down to "well that's what you get for trusting <clue>" which was my entire point to begin with.

I don't think many people here are in <Clue>. I don't even play on blue because I have some dignity.

You're angry because you feel like you're entitled to pixels for standing in one spot for a little while, and now you're angry because everyone is explaining to you why you aren't entitled to said pixels.

Maybe you should vote for bernie and hope he gives you free pixels in his socialist utopia.

(and that was mean what you said about Indiscriminate's cat. don't be a vagina.)

[Fydar]

I'm not trying to prove anything. What's done is done. I'm only calling people shitheads who are making the argument that a random level 53 rogue who ports in just in time to do 3 rounds of damage is just as deserving as the guy who sat around for four days camping the spawn.



These are the people who can't read. FTE has absolutely nothing to do with anything. There was no one else in the zone capable of kiting and/or killing Lodizal. I've said this at least twice.




Lodizal is not a raid mob. This was not a raid. Raids have nothing to do with anything. This was 13 people showing up and randoming on something that could've been easily killed by 3 people.



"If you don't want to get fucked over when you camp something, you should've just asked your friends."

The entire point of this thread.

[Stormfists]

You guys are all fucking idiots, if this happened to you you'd be fucking crying on the forum just as hard. The guy camped a mob for a week and asked guild for help, they helped and he got dicked out of loot which is bullshit. If it weren't for him they wouldn't have known the fucking mob was up.

He didn't tell them he needed loot... And they looted.

[barrettdc1]

Then why would he camp it for 40 hours? For sport? The fuck outta here.

[MavstabYoudead]

Then why would he camp it for 40 hours? For sport? The fuck outta here.

he didn't camp it 40 hours and if he did he didn't understand the spawn. Shouldn't believe everything the OP wrote as it's clear he's pretty delusional.

[barrettdc1]

k

[Stormfists]

Then why would he camp it for 40 hours? For sport? The fuck outta here.

That's why he's getting owned.

Get cunted.

[Troxx]

Just to recap the facts:

-Asshole claims he has friends willing to log in at a moment's notice to help him kill.

-Asshole proceeds to sit, stupidly, at a spawn for (he claims) 40 hours over a few days to kill a mob, despite the fact that if said mob had spawned at any point during his 40 hour camping marathon sessions and others were there he would have no legitimate claim to the mob.

-Asshole is allegedly at the camp with veritably NOBODY in the zone except an afk druid who died when mob spawned.

-Asshole engages said mob with a FTE raid emote while (allegedly) nobody is in the zone.

-Asshole engages said mob with a FTE emote (raid etc) mob while (allegedly) nobody is in the zone and kites said mob somewhere else, depriving others who may or may not have zoned in, the opportunity to legitimately engage the mob.

-Asshole who (allegedly) has "friends" ready to zone in and small group the mob he has been "camping" for him (because he doesn't fit into any small squad who would legitimately kill said mob) does not phone his "friends" who are "available to help him 24/7".

-Asshole instead calls HIS GUILD in to help him kill a mob he can't kill by himself, because he can't be bothered to log in his "friends" who are willing to help him kill said mob 24/7 (at a moments' notice no less) ...

-Asshole does not discuss the fact that he has "camped" this mob for "40 hours" (did he really??), nor does he bring this fact up while the mob is killed, the loot rolled upon etc ....

-Asshole then either leaves (or is booted from) said guild after being a giant bloody twat about it ... (???)

-Asshole makes thread and posts in the general server chat

-Epic backfire; thread moved to rants and flames

-Asshole lashes out violently to random folks (to include one dude's cat) claiming an alleged lack of "reading comprehension" and/or they're just a member of <Clue>

..

.....

...........

Fun times were had for all except the Asshole OP.

I, for one, am glad you didn't get a Belt of the Lodizal turtle. If only Clue members would show up to name and shame YOU to guarantee your awesome 58 bard never finds another guild.

Epic fail ... epic fail

[Lictor]

Then why would he camp it for 40 hours? For sport? The fuck outta here.

Hundreds of clowns do similar feats for raid pixels around here, boggles my mind.

[indiscriminate_hater]

-Asshole lashes out violently to random folks (to include one dude's cat) claiming an alleged lack of "reading comprehension" and/or they're just a member of <Clue>


this is the real tragedy here

[burkemi5]

OP didn't camp anything. Camping a spawn implies that you're actually able to kill it. OP tracked it for his guildies, who swooped in and took loot. Sounds like standard operating procedure. Maybe OP is bummed his nice guildies who killed a spawn for him didn't thank him for tracking.

[Pokesan]

the stockholm syndrome is strong in this thread

tracking is a sickness my friends, seek help

[Legi0n]

I don't necessarily agree with OPs reaction, but don't downplay the shittiness that is tracking. Lodi isn't a guaranteed spawn and has a huge window. It may not be a difficult thing per se, but I'd MUCH rather be the (small) force that swoops in to kill Lodizal in 2 seconds than the person sitting at his spawn for hours on end. Fuck that. Whoever wastes their time camping that shit deserves a piece of the pie, imo.

[Ersuvus]

I'm not trying to prove anything. What's done is done. I'm only calling people shitheads who are making the argument that a random level 53 rogue who ports in just in time to do 3 rounds of damage is just as deserving as the guy who sat around for four days camping the spawn.



These are the people who can't read. FTE has absolutely nothing to do with anything. There was no one else in the zone capable of kiting and/or killing Lodizal. I've said this at least twice.




Lodizal is not a raid mob. This was not a raid. Raids have nothing to do with anything. This was 13 people showing up and randoming on something that could've been easily killed by 3 people.



"If you don't want to get fucked over when you camp something, you should've just asked your friends."

The entire point of this thread.

Hey I was the only rogue there and i'm 55. I definitely did more than 3 rounds of damage. Also, I lost the rolls on everything and didn't /gquit right after loot was done.

[Tankdan]

ITT bunch of nobodies that probably never camp Lodi.

Lodi gets pulled to portal all the fucking time where guildees zone in to help. Assuming OP is telling the truth about him getting FTE and calling in guildees to help, he got shafted hard by <Clue>. RNF gonna RNF though.

[Filthy_Pagan]

Lets start a petition to have lodi become a triggered spawn with no cooldown that everyone can use once a day so that everyone can be happy and get pixels with zero effort

[MaksimMazor]

Just to recap the facts:

-Asshole claims he has friends willing to log in at a moment's notice to help him kill.

-Asshole proceeds to sit, stupidly, at a spawn for (he claims) 40 hours over a few days to kill a mob, despite the fact that if said mob had spawned at any point during his 40 hour camping marathon sessions and others were there he would have no legitimate claim to the mob.

-Asshole is allegedly at the camp with veritably NOBODY in the zone except an afk druid who died when mob spawned.

-Asshole engages said mob with a FTE raid emote while (allegedly) nobody is in the zone.

-Asshole engages said mob with a FTE emote (raid etc) mob while (allegedly) nobody is in the zone and kites said mob somewhere else, depriving others who may or may not have zoned in, the opportunity to legitimately engage the mob.

-Asshole who (allegedly) has "friends" ready to zone in and small group the mob he has been "camping" for him (because he doesn't fit into any small squad who would legitimately kill said mob) does not phone his "friends" who are "available to help him 24/7".

-Asshole instead calls HIS GUILD in to help him kill a mob he can't kill by himself, because he can't be bothered to log in his "friends" who are willing to help him kill said mob 24/7 (at a moments' notice no less) ...

-Asshole does not discuss the fact that he has "camped" this mob for "40 hours" (did he really??), nor does he bring this fact up while the mob is killed, the loot rolled upon etc ....

-Asshole then either leaves (or is booted from) said guild after being a giant bloody twat about it ... (???)

-Asshole makes thread and posts in the general server chat

-Epic backfire; thread moved to rants and flames

-Asshole lashes out violently to random folks (to include one dude's cat) claiming an alleged lack of "reading comprehension" and/or they're just a member of <Clue>

..

.....

...........

Fun times were had for all except the Asshole OP.

I, for one, am glad you didn't get a Belt of the Lodizal turtle. If only Clue members would show up to name and shame YOU to guarantee your awesome 58 bard never finds another guild.

Epic fail ... epic fail

http://imgur.com/cf0H8z4.jpg

[dustysr06]

Grats to my Clue pals on what sounds like a solid mobilization and clean Lodizal kill!

Makin Gainz!

[Mead]

Find a new guild (literally any other guild) and find better friends in game. There are plenty of people around looking to help out and not steal your loot. No more clues needed.

[Pokesan]

Find a new guild (literally any other guild) and find better friends in game. There are plenty of people around looking to help out and not steal your loot. No more clues needed.

this is good advice while also being the same thing OP was saying

get a clue and don't join <Clue>

[Neno]

only crime committed here is that someone camped a virtual turtle for 40 fucking hours. please ban OP for the sake of his mental and physical health.

[bktroost]

Fandago is spamming the forums with his picture of a potato.

[Oleris]

Fandago is spamming the forums with his picture of a potato.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/Sontaran_Stratagem.jpg

[Lifebar]

only crime committed here is that someone camped a virtual turtle for 40 fucking hours. please ban OP for the sake of his mental and physical health.

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xap1/t51.2885-15/e15/10838743_414586415363728_1510243753_n.jpg

[topgun1027]

fte message = raid rules mob imo

cant kite, cant stall

Just to clarify. for Lodizal this is false. People have been punished for ksing people's Lodizal FTE after 1 minute of running around trying to slow it.

If you are alone and kiting like this bard that is a different story.. if people are waiting to attack Lodizal.

[Troxx]

Just to clarify. for Lodizal this is false. People have been punished for ksing people's Lodizal FTE after 1 minute of running around trying to slow it.

If you are alone and kiting like this bard that is a different story.. if people are waiting to attack Lodizal.

running him around trying to get him slowed by a capable force is a far cry from running him around aimlessly (or with purpose) waiting on your capable force to show up

If your force isn't in the zone, you shouldn't be engaging it.

[toosweet]

http://i.imgur.com/BKGw9A0.jpg

Fixed it for you

http://media.abum.com/image/66447.jpg

[nivikk]

OP should have gotten lodi shell for the work he put in, rest is non guaranteed drops and up for roll. Usually how this stuff goes.

[nivikk]

or the map piece

[bktroost]

Just to clarify. for Lodizal this is false. People have been punished for ksing people's Lodizal FTE after 1 minute of running around trying to slow it.

If you are alone and kiting like this bard that is a different story.. if people are waiting to attack Lodizal.

It operates until camp rules, however, camp rules still require no stalling and force to kill the mob. Of you have to kite for 1 minute to slow that's a strategy. If you are a rogue kiting it waiting for your friends to show up that's stalling.

I've petitioned and won this fight.

[bktroost]

Dang auto correct. Under* if*

[arcalion]

It's the holidays, lots of crazy stuff happens. My Mom got too drunk as usual, and just like last year, I had to cook the ham.

So I feel ya.


Haha i just had to quote this, to fuckin classic, thanks for making my morning brighter !

[Pokesan]

The Clue guild leader was the recent stripper. He gave an officer a fungi to keep and some other gear to sell - from the strip. The leader has convinced the officer it was a conspiracy by Haggard Krew or Rampage to destroy their guild.

[Skillslam]

Now here's where I admittedly messed up - I didn't speak up when the "raid" leader Rainbowcop started randoming off Lodizal's loot.

I'll give this 2 keks and 1 lel

[Legi0n]

The Clue guild leader was the recent stripper. He gave an officer a fungi to keep and some other gear to sell - from the strip. The leader has convinced the officer it was a conspiracy by Haggard Krew or Rampage to destroy their guild.

Heh. Pooh will have no problem "destroying" the guild himself. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't already imploded.

[Modus]

This thread confirms that the population of Blue is equally scumlord to the population of Red, and that Rogean et al.'s disgust for the P99 player base (as revealed in the Green Grocer logs) is not only justified, but understated.

...and I'm not talking about OP. I'm talking about just about every post in this thread.

[Stormfists]

This thread confirms that the population of Blue is equally scumlord to the population of Red, and that Rogean et al.'s disgust for the P99 player base (as revealed in the Green Grocer logs) is not only justified, but understated.

...and I'm not talking about OP. I'm talking about just about every post in this thread.

Unbanned after your RMT stint?

Wow, Sirken soft.

[Malbolshia]

Had a shitty run in with someone from this guild last night.

I guess he through it would be funny to train the zone in CoM without calling a train.

Asked for a rez, he said he'd give one, but never did.

Seems to me, <Clue> has quite a bit of members who think its funny to grief people.

[vans19]

I think people has different expectations for guild and difference guild has different approach to stuff.

We have this guildie got ayllish or whatever spelling is that few dragons were up in WW. He called in a 2-3 to help and suggesting we /roll all stuff.

Dragon died, the officer in the guild (who also participated the kill) simply ask the one who called people get over to kill these dragons to decide on the loot.

It's just simply as that. No argue no nothing, the officer gave rights for him to do it and we are fine (at least nobody said otherwise?) . And the one who called out insisted and suggested a /roll.

I am almost certain that my guild would come over to help on kill and let him decide loot if it happened to us. Some people expect guild for help but it seems some guild does and some guild doesn't, or even if they does that, they expect something in return.
If u have told your situation to the guild and want piece of loot u need and they still /random after they got the kill u have been waiting for 40 hours, I feel sorry for you : /

[vans19]

Definitive backfire thread of 2015 - YIKES

Guy mad that no one wants to kill mobs for him - self entitled sh!t

How can people put it like this?
I don't get it

[vans19]

You guys are all fucking idiots, if this happened to you you'd be fucking crying on the forum just as hard. The guy camped a mob for a week and asked guild for help, they helped and he got dicked out of loot which is bullshit. If it weren't for him they wouldn't have known the fucking mob was up.

I agree what u said. That's why there is no points to out the story here tho. Cause these people are a holes. They will only write something back to you to make u more upset before they understand it all or they ignore some of the points.

[Pokesan]

no quad post for you, madvans19

work on it

[Filthy_Pagan]

Had a shitty run in with someone from this guild last night.

I guess he through it would be funny to train the zone in CoM without calling a train.

Asked for a rez, he said he'd give one, but never did.

Seems to me, <Clue> has quite a bit of members who think its funny to grief people.

in all fairness, sometimes you can't run to zone and warn others of a train at the same time without dying.

[stront]

<Clueless> amirite?

[trite]

to the OP, if you are in a guild and are pissed about sharing loot with your guildies they should reconsider you....

[Malbolshia]

in all fairness, sometimes you can't run to zone and warn others of a train at the same time without dying.

So yeah, instead, just get other people killed. Its okay..right? As long as its not you..

Also, offer people rezzes, then refuse to do so and logout after being asked. Cause you know, its not his fault right?

Clue now is on my no group list, along with several other guilds who display similar behavior.

Hopefully others will see this post, and follow suit.

[vans21emu]

no quad post for you, madvans19

work on it

/yaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

[Pokesan]

/yaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

what an excellent reply by a tremendous faggot