LNS: It's time for a more sensible system

[Tune]

Mistakes happen

If people are zoning they might miss an LNS call
just log on? ooc off? ooc window scrolled up? not in TS?

there is no way that a one time player kill should result in a suspension ON A PVP SERVER.
But this happens time and time again.....

the way it is now it is just one big petition quest / lawyer quest

for excessive griefing / corpse camping I can see why we might want to keep it

vote now and lets fix this shit.

[Redi]

Sounds like you're a repeat offender.

So, you are not qualified to make the "accident" argument.

[Pseudechis]

voted abolish. I hate petitionquest.

[shokar]

in favor of abolish

[iruinedyourday]

its terrible, i use it to force someone out of a zone so i can farm it like a bitch for an hour.

[Amuck]

or that person is on your ignore list like engleburt and fandango because they are annoying. or ya you just port in and you have no LNS on your logs but you eat a suspension.

[AzzarTheGod]

Sounds like you're a repeat offender.

So, you are not qualified to make the "accident" argument.

The hell is the guy who is responsible for the LNS policy being designed by Derubael in the first place suggesting making changes?

This is not RNF. go create your troll thread there Tune. You are the Father of LNS and forced it on everyone.

Anyone contributing to a policy discussion created by the goomba of grief is gettin trolled. Tune pretends he had nothing to do with this.

Remember the time you threw Rexx's body into the ocean during an LD pk and wouldn't tell him where it was. Discuss a policy for treating veteran box players with a little respect.

[Tune]

The hell is the guy who is responsible for the LNS policy being designed by Derubael in the first place suggesting making changes?

This is not RNF. go create your troll thread there Tune. You are the father of LNS and forced it on everyone.

Anyone contributing to a policy discussion created by the goomba of grief is gettin trolled.

still awaiting evidence of this so called grief

[Huelath]

itt:

known griefer wants to make illegal griefing legal following suspension for illegal griefing

[Tune]

itt:

known griefer wants to make illegal griefing legal following suspension for illegal griefing

bros the kills are logged

show me them consecutive kills

right shut up

[HippoNipple]

One thing that will never happen are rules being put in or taken out that make a server more hardcore. It only goes one way. Once you take a step towards blue that is a step away from red that you will never get back.

There will never be any item loot, exp penalty on death, or in this case removal of LNS on this server.

The GMs would never make a change that may intimidate a player off the server but have no problem making changes that would piss off someone wishing to grief easier.

I get you are saying sometimes mistakes are made and people are wrongfully suspended/banned but that doesn't change the fact that a removal of LnS would intimidate some players from playing or joining the current server.

[Huelath]

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should i keep goin or are u fuckin stupid?

[iruinedyourday]

One thing that will never happen are rules being put in or taken out that make a server more hardcore. It only goes one way. Once you take a step towards blue that is a step away from red that you will never get back.

There will never be any item loot, exp penalty on death, or in this case removal of LNS on this server.

The GMs would never make a change that may intimidate a player off the server but have no problem making changes that would piss off someone wishing to grief easier.

I get you are saying sometimes mistakes are made and people are wrongfully suspended/banned but that doesn't change the fact that a removal of LnS would intimidate some players from playing or joining the current server.

im also pretty sure there is no staff anymore

http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/511/436/3436511.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

you threw rexx's body in the water and wouldnt help him leaving him to rot. he started playing less after this and then quit.

he was trying to play again after a long layoff. half the server can corroborate this grief.

[Tune]

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should i keep goin or are u fuckin stupid?

look at the time frames. are you stupid?

i spent 3 minutes at a bind killing a bind rusher and moved on

that isnt grief

[Drakaris]

you threw rexx's body in the water and wouldnt help him leaving him to rot. he started playing less after this and then quit.

he was trying to play again after a long layoff. half the server can corroborate this grief.

Lets pretend Empire hasn't participated in any account strippings or LNS breaches while criticising Tune.

Keep pretending now...

I remember several TMO quit posts in the first fortnight of Velious release due to excessive corpse camping by Empire.

I don't remember reading a single quit post for Tune corpse camping.

Discuss...

[AzzarTheGod]

look at the time frames. are you stupid?

i spent 3 minutes at a bind killing a bind rusher and moved on

that isnt grief

what about dragging an LD veteran player and kiting him out in the ocean to die so he can't CR.

pack it up pal u lost this one

[JboxCSU]

look at the time frames. are you stupid?

i spent 3 minutes at a bind griefing.

that is griefing

Ftfy

[Huelath]

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so not only should you be banned but even box pals like lithiuum and beastagor should also be in timeout

I really don't like the negative influence you're putting onto them

[Huelath]

tune asks for prof, prof is delivered, comes up even more attempts of slimy excuses

i'm very glad that this toxic player has 16 accounts banned

[Tune]

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so not only should you be banned but even box pals like lithiuum and beastagor should also be in timeout

I really don't like the negative influence you're putting onto them

Xepiz you are deeply troubled,

you are infact proving my case because yo HAD THE OPTION to LNS

but chose NOT to take it


lets get something straight... ill put it in caps so it sinks in

HAD U CALLED LNS... AND WE STILL DID THAT..... I THINK WE SHOULD BE BANNED, YES

1 ACCIDENTAL KILL AFTER THE FIRST? NO LNS RULE SHOULD COME INTO PLAY

[AzzarTheGod]

anyone responsible for making Rexx have less fun and quit the game is not cool and normal.

[Huelath]

? i'm not xepiz retard

[AzzarTheGod]

? i'm not xepiz retard

lol delete this thread Tune save your ass now

[Tune]

you forum quest is weak , i expected more bros

get dunked on the poll too

[Colgate 2.0]

funny how the people who try to lawyerquest LNS the most are the ones now crying for it to be changed when they get suspended for blatantly violating it

if it were anyone but a repeat offender who is currently suspended for LNS violations and has over a dozen accounts permanently banned for a myriad of exploits and rule violations, i might take this thread seriously

[Tune]

funny how the people who try to lawyerquest LNS the most are the ones now crying for it to be changed when they get suspended for blatantly violating it

if it were anyone but a repeat offender who is currently suspended for LNS violations and has over a dozen accounts permanently banned for a myriad of exploits and rule violations, i might take this thread seriously

funny i don't lawyer quest and this only happened to me twice, both times utterly rediculous

[Colgate 2.0]

bros the kills are logged

show me them consecutive kills

right shut up

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should i keep goin or are u fuckin stupid?

[HippoNipple]

funny how the people who try to lawyerquest LNS the most are the ones now crying for it to be changed when they get suspended for blatantly violating it

if it were anyone but a repeat offender who is currently suspended for LNS violations and has over a dozen accounts permanently banned for a myriad of exploits and rule violations, i might take this thread seriously

According to Tune he only got suspended for LNS and had a dozen accounts permanently banned for exploits twice.

I think Sektors has also only been caught and banned for RMT twice. The staff should probably consult with him next on new RMT rules.

[Tune]

According to Tune he only got suspended for LNS and had a dozen accounts permanently banned for exploits twice.

I think Sektors has also only been caught and banned for RMT twice. The staff should probably consult with him next on new RMT rules.

confirmed not even reading the thread and going for the "you mad" response only

ignore these clowns

[Outer]

Currently gms aren't policing red outside of boxing. Remove LNS and let thighs figure it's own self out. Just about never does one player sit on a characters corpse and those who care about getting killed on a corpse run typically line it up or get a drag/Rez with bros helping out. Don't think I've ever died on a corpse run or called lns. Cannot remember the last time anyone on this server who actually pvps called lns..... All I see are the blue players in empire and Tmo calling it simply cause they don't care about dying and wish to continue on farming etx

[Fame]

holy shit the comments on this one are pretty fucking pathetic, repeal lns, the server was fine without it and all the "grief" listed here is laughable at best

Hoping the next few paged have some pictures of real grief from the exp loss days

[Barladore]

Anyone that supports the current LNS system is brain dead.

[Redi]

Originally Posted by Tune View Post
bros the kills are logged

show me them consecutive kills

right shut up
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should i keep goin or are u fuckin stupid?

https://media3.giphy.com/media/tX0KEnYSPxL1u/200.gif

[Farzo]

make LNS a /afk command that drops when you zone and can only LNS in the zone you've died in ~30mins

but really if anyone is killing nakids then its the risk they take.

[Outer]

If you die on a PVp corpse run you. A. Have no friends/guild/idea how to play B. Suck at this game. C. Don't give a shit. Loot and scoot is just a waste of gm time honestly. We don't have a gm running the server but we have all these rules that require enforcement. It's like having laws In a country with no cops. It's the WILD FUCK WEST and id rather that

[Farzo]

nakid kills are purely KDR increases, or griefing.

the best solution would be to remove global YT and make it zonal only; because lets be honest MOST yt's come from gangbangs very little 1v1's happen.

[Farzo]

or just remove YT's on people with ~2bits of gear n their person.

[Colgate 2.0]

Anyone that supports the current LNS system is brain dead.

weird how you guys are against the LNS system but you continue to try and use it against people in-game

[georgie]

because those are the current rules? what point are you making?

[Outer]

weird how you guys are against the LNS system but you continue to try and use it against people in-game

What..... Are you retarded?

[Ordaga]

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s398/Ordaga/EQ000198.png (http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/Ordaga/media/EQ000198.png.html)


the agatha rainbow in ls, this was in classic exp penalty n all this is what real grief looks like

[Outer]

That's what makes personality and online person important real risk for being a douchebag. Exp penalty for PVp is great. Someone who is an asshole has a hard as time to play here versus empire taking any warm body

[Uuruk]

Just delete the pointless 150 man server and open a new one.

[Redi]

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s398/Ordaga/EQ000198.png (http://s1049.photobucket.com/user/Ordaga/media/EQ000198.png.html)


the agatha rainbow in ls, this was in classic exp penalty n all this is what real grief looks like

ya that was fun

classic, xp loss, pre yt

[Colgate 2.0]

because those are the current rules? what point are you making?

if you guys truly thought the rules were stupid, you wouldn't support the dumbest parts of them in-game

you're simply trying to get it changed because it doesn't suit you when you get suspended over it

[Buhbuh]

if you guys truly thought the rules were stupid, you wouldn't support the dumbest parts of them in-game

you're simply trying to get it changed because it doesn't suit you when you get suspended over it

Further evidenced by the fact that Empire lobbied for a change to the flawed carebear LnS before Velious even came out. I remember distinctly when I personally reached out to Gardur and several other not rustled, sane, somewhat well respected leaders of the community.

Nothing happened. Nothing will happen.

Too deeply entrenched in meaningless faggot rivalries.

I saw the title of this thread and who it was from and just chortled at the irony.

[Slathar]

Further evidenced by the fact that Empire lobbied for a change to the flawed carebear LnS before Velious even came out. I remember distinctly when I personally reached out to Gardur and several other not rustled, sane, somewhat well respected leaders of the community.

Nothing happened. Nothing will happen.

Too deeply entrenched in meaningless faggot rivalries.

I saw the title of this thread and who it was from and just chortled at the irony.

creepy weirdo with a wispy weird person beard and bald head is unemployed and homophobic

news at unemployed

[Gardur]

Single incident suspensions are dumb. Without a coded in LNS system (which will never happen) then reliance on the chat system is required.

Who reads chat while in combat?

Too many ways to miss an LNS call and get a violation. I think some sort of malicious intent should be proven i.e. bind camping, ignoring multiple /t /ooc /shout /say notifications.

Killing nakeds is usually just padding KDR unless it's a zone control battle or a fight for a merb, anyway.

I personally miss the days of player - enforce LNS. I will sit at your corpse until you LNS out of the zone, once you loot your shit if you're not headed for the zl I'm hitting you until you start moving. Live was p goog about this in Kunark era iirc.

Didn't vote because i think there are more than 3 options.

[Uuruk]

creepy weirdo with a wispy weird person beard and bald head is unemployed and homophobic

news at unemployed

Petition submitted

[Slathar]

Petition submitted

are you a fat weird creepy homophobe too?

sorry to offend. news at unemployed.

[Colgate 2.0]

Single incident suspensions are dumb. Without a coded in LNS system (which will never happen) then reliance on the chat system is required.

Who reads chat while in combat?

Too many ways to miss an LNS call and get a violation. I think some sort of malicious intent should be proven i.e. bind camping, ignoring multiple /t /ooc /shout /say notifications.

Killing nakeds is usually just padding KDR unless it's a zone control battle or a fight for a merb, anyway.

I personally miss the days of player - enforce LNS. I will sit at your corpse until you LNS out of the zone, once you loot your shit if you're not headed for the zl I'm hitting you until you start moving. Live was p goog about this in Kunark era iirc.

Didn't vote because i think there are more than 3 options.

i agree, repeat offenders, like the creator of this thread, should be subject to even harsher punishment for a clear disregard of the rules and the spirit of the rules

[Tune]

Single incident suspensions are dumb. Without a coded in LNS system (which will never happen) then reliance on the chat system is required.

Who reads chat while in combat?

Too many ways to miss an LNS call and get a violation. I think some sort of malicious intent should be proven i.e. bind camping, ignoring multiple /t /ooc /shout /say notifications.

Killing nakeds is usually just padding KDR unless it's a zone control battle or a fight for a merb, anyway.

I personally miss the days of player - enforce LNS. I will sit at your corpse until you LNS out of the zone, once you loot your shit if you're not headed for the zl I'm hitting you until you start moving. Live was p goog about this in Kunark era iirc.

Didn't vote because i think there are more than 3 options.

thank you for the constructive post

can you give us some ideas you have?

thats what the discussion is for , and ignoring Colgate ofcourse , dude is a child

[HippoNipple]

confirmed not even reading the thread and going for the "you mad" response only

ignore these clowns

I gave you a serious response already. I don't think changing LnS would be a bad thing, along with exp pvp death, but I don't think it is even a possibility making any rules more harsh then they are today. If you take a step towards a blue server I don't think it is possible to ever go back the other way.

I can't think of any game I ever played where rules were changed to make it harsher. If changes are ever made it is to make things easier for people. Maybe I'm wrong with that but none come to mind.

[Ragnaros]

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so not only should you be banned but even box pals like lithiuum and beastagor should also be in timeout

I really don't like the negative influence you're putting onto them

i hope your kidding, that idiot xepiz would literally loot his gear and start attacking us..what are we supsoed to do?

[fiegi 8.0]

I agree with op post, but i don't have a solution yet.

[Xaanka]

LnS is sadly necessary because you nerds can't play nice with each other. It says enough that most of the people arguing against LnS in here are people who try to lawyer the rule to get other people's accounts suspended. Almost like an extremely autistic form of PVP.

i'll argue against it because it isn't a soft-coded tag like AFK and there's selective-at-best enforcement. LnS is a good rule in theory but only when it gets enforced consistently. otherwise you just see it getting ignored half the time, and then used as whine material by server babies like Vapo the other half.

[georgie]

6monthers hardly know what's going on, on this server

[Lasher]

fill me in here.

Xepiz dies, you kill him over and over with him not calling LNS, then he finally has enough and calls LNS and you kill him? You claim you didnt see the LNS because of zoning?

I once was speeding and i didnt see the change in speed on the speed limit sign and i got pulled over and got a ticket. I explained that I didnt see it. Officer understood. I still got ticket.

7 days is not a long suspension. if you got more than 7 days then you would be a repeat offender and kind of a moot point.

I honestly dont attack naked people unless attaked first. Naked people pose no harm really and if they attack first i have logs

[Xaanka]

6monthers hardly know what's going on, on this server

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[Doors]

Fuck lns.

[Tune]

fill me in here.

Xepiz dies, you kill him over and over with him not calling LNS, then he finally has enough and calls LNS and you kill him? You claim you didnt see the LNS because of zoning?

I once was speeding and i didnt see the change in speed on the speed limit sign and i got pulled over and got a ticket. I explained that I didnt see it. Officer understood. I still got ticket.

7 days is not a long suspension. if you got more than 7 days then you would be a repeat offender and kind of a moot point.

I honestly dont attack naked people unless attaked first. Naked people pose no harm really and if they attack first i have logs

no that didnt happen

was never suspended for the Xepiz situation and he never called LNS

be more clueless

[snufzaimoverlord]

Didn't read thread but blaytent lns violations will be punished.

[Slathar]

im bald

[Colgate 2.0]

be more clueless

you might be the most clueless person in this community

[fiegi 8.0]

slathar wrong guy thats mornin

[Lasher]

Fill us in on how you got suspended. is it 7 days?

[georgie]

no that didnt happen

was never suspended for the Xepiz situation and he never called LNS

be more clueless

I was there and I also partaked in killing xepiz as he bind rushed us. then he later he died to a guard(last hit) in nfp, and thought he could LNS. we pounded him and he called lns finally. then we let him go

the end

[fiegi 8.0]

I got a 2 week (i think?) for literally nothing, got to the point where I just left all nakeds alone unless it was a "big name", ain't worth a month on the sidelines, lns sux has so many loopholes

[pgerman]

I do not mind loot and scoot rules, but they should only be player enforced like live.


It's an 60% solution that worked decently on live. It would work ok here, but people would have to learn to log out when they are being excessively griefed. Instead of wasting 5 hours of GM time on something so trivial.

Right now loot and scoot is generally a waste of everyone's time.


RAID LOOT AND SCOOT is the only thing that should be GM enforced. The losing guild should lose whatever target they are after for the next 5 hours if they call Force LNS.

[Tune]

you might be the most clueless person in this community

na

[Tune]

I do not mind loot and scoot rules, but they should only be player enforced like live.


It's an 60% solution that worked decently on live. It would work ok here, but people would have to learn to log out when they are being excessively griefed. Instead of wasting 5 hours of GM time on something so trivial.

Right now loot and scoot is generally a waste of everyone's time.


RAID LOOT AND SCOOT is the only thing that should be GM enforced. The losing guild should lose whatever target they are after for the next 5 hours if they call Force LNS.

great post

[Colgate 2.0]

i'm just happy that the next time tune decides to blatantly disregard the rules and act like a douchebag, his sentence will be doubled

[snufzaimoverlord]

Tune cracks me up. What a martyr.

Wah.

[Ragnaros]

tune has killed colgate on every single one of his characters and has been dicking him down the past 3 years...no wonder hes so bitter

[Tune]

tune has killed colgate on every single one of his characters and has been dicking him down the past 3 years...no wonder hes so bitter

ive watched colgate hug zone lines for about 4 years

only to eat deaths due to trak teeth or broken stuns

fun to drop the biggest shit talker in any game i know

[Redi]

great post

Only raid lns? What about the little guys trying to exp in faydwer, they don't get to call lns?

[Tune]

Only raid lns? What about the little guys trying to exp in faydwer, they don't get to call lns?

anything constructive or bringing an idea to the table is a miracle around these parts.

do i think that is the best solution?

i dont know let the people decide

[snufzaimoverlord]

Are you so delusional you think any rules will change at this stage of the game? Either play by them or don't, just please stop crying like a baby when you get your hand slapped.

[Ragnaros]

You guys are idiots seriously trying to argue that it legit that Quantized got 3 people banned for LNS violations when A) he only died twice, B) He failed to alert new people in zone that he was on LNS, thus allowing people who just logged on to get suspended.
Gaping just super salty he wasn't allowed to play this server until recently, his squad been getting dicked down for past 3 years ( and still to this day huehue remember grobb)

[pgerman]

Are you so delusional you think any rules will change at this stage of the game? Either play by them or don't, just please stop crying like a baby when you get your hand slapped.

Those rules got added to the server like 3 years after the server came out. Because people were crying like babies.


idiot.

[Ragnaros]

I just don't think people should let their bitter feelings about someone due to being raped over and over and over affect the way they think rules should work on this server.

[Redi]

Spirit of the rule is so people can continue to play the game without unchecked camping.

[georgie]

don't think gaping was here at launch

[pgerman]

Spirit of the rule is so people can continue to play the game without unchecked camping.

Loot and scoot does not help newbies trying to exp. If you call LNS, you have to leave the zone for 1 hour. Griefers can still grief quite easily.

Right now the only real time this rule is used is when level 60s are trying to get other level 60's or in range banned.

[Ragnaros]

Spirit of the rule is so people can continue to play the game without unchecked camping.

Yes I agree that there should be LNS enforced, I just don't think that 3 people should get suspended just for participating in an accidental LNS violation where the player failed to update his status.
If u blatantly deny someone their corpse continuously you should definitely at least get detained or warned, Then suspended if you continue to corpse camp the person.

[snufzaimoverlord]

don't think gaping was here at launch

O.k, still remember the days in guk when tune woulda insta camp out Fallen.

[fiegi 8.0]

don't think gaping was here at launch

O.k, still remember the days in guk when tune woulda insta camp out Fallen.

https://media.giphy.com/media/sAIHfbmxVHWkE/giphy.gif

[Tune]

O.k, still remember the days in guk when tune woulda insta camp out Fallen.

fun fact i didnt even know what i was doing until holocaust fear trains happened

i never knew getting to server select pulled you out of game, i guess im stupid

[Colgate 2.0]

"i never knew that using highsun to bug out the steel golem's placeholder to be stuck in a wall was against the rules, i just didn't know what i was doing!"

more lucky than exploit all over again?

[Tune]

"i never knew that using highsun to bug out the steel golem's placeholder to be stuck in a wall was against the rules, i just didn't know what i was doing!"

more lucky than exploit all over again?

you are just mad i've been white knighting these forums for years,

you are just mad and post more to do anything you can to degrade my image

1 look at the posts i make you can easily see who is jesus christ here and who is a shit stain on the floor of your 1 bedroom apartment

stay mad clown

[Colgate 2.0]

yea i'm really mad that you're suspended for LNS violations and permabanned on another dozen characters for scripts on a 2boxed character LOL

[Tune]

yea i'm really mad that you're suspended for LNS violations and permabanned on another dozen characters for scripts on a 2boxed character LOL

LOL 2box

REACHING BRO

[snufzaimoverlord]

you are just mad i've been white knighting these forums for years,

you are just mad and post more to do anything you can to degrade my image

1 look at the posts i make you can easily see who is jesus christ here and who is a shit stain on the floor of your 1 bedroom apartment

stay mad clown

You try way 2 hard man.

[vouss]

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should i keep goin or are u fuckin stupid?

god i love everquest

[Xaanka]

some real pillars of mental stability itt

[Gardur]

Loot and scoot does not help newbies trying to exp. If you call LNS, you have to leave the zone for 1 hour. Griefers can still grief quite easily.


You should know. Huehue.

My being constantly assaulted while leveling and having to lns frequently is the only reason I learned to play on red.

Baptism by fire is why we play here.

And we're all sick.

Personal lns should be player enforced and force lns should be CSR enforced. Would take the load off of our guides and make the petitions more interesting. If I was a guide I'd be way more inclined to watch pvp fraps than to read a two page diatribe from some nerd who doesn't punctuate and have to search logs with text commands.

[Tune]

You should know. Huehue.

My being constantly assaulted while leveling and having to lns frequently is the only reason I learned to play on red.

Baptism by fire is why we play here.

And we're all sick.

Personal lns should be player enforced and force lns should be CSR enforced. Would take the load off of our guides and make the petitions more interesting. If I was a guide I'd be way more inclined to watch pvp fraps than to read a two page diatribe from some nerd who doesn't punctuate and have to search logs with text commands.

it is a pleasure to share these forums with you

it is nice to know not every1 is a sociopath on these boards

[Slathar]

Lns is probably what I'd use if I didn't have a dick and I was a fat nerd with a bowl cut who smelled like farts and crayons


now fuck off back to blue fuck boy

[HippoNipple]

Personal lns should be player enforced

What does that look like?

[FAPhoenix]

No LNS 52+. Handles twinks and focuses on the interesting cases...because who really cares you got dunked twice in Crushbone and had to run all the away from Orc lift...

Retain Force LNS...because it is fantastic to watch the shame thrown up on OOC.

[iruinedyourday]

What does that look like?

I loled at the idea at first too but I think he meant by always having fraps.

Which ain't no thunderdrome gonna have so griefs back on the menu

[Huelath]

What does that look like?

it looks like tune griefing level 52s on his level 60 bis bard off of the server when population peaks at 34 at 3 am when nihilum logs on to raid VP and then everyone calling him a loser for years to follow

[Tune]

stay on topic please

the topic here is not about tune

its about LNS

[georgie]

can you get tune's left nut out of your mouth

[syztem]

friends(certain people) is well known for finding someone at their bind, killing them naked, then re engaging them before they even load into world to call LNS fast enough. all the while spewing "sorry already engaged u shouldve called LNS before i attacked you!" It always seems to be the same bunch too, because they want YT be it fair fight or a naked kill. they froth to see that YT added to leaderboards to prove and thump their chests how good they are.

I heard some 9 suspensions went out in the last 4-5 days over similar incidents because of asshats chain killing naked people, and trying to rule lawyer bullshit junk like "you have to scoot!" when they are their bind already and all they can do is call LNS and wait for a rez. Friends loves to kill anyone and everyone, let them deal with the consequences now that GMs are back enforcing your violations.

[Smedy]

abolish, the lack of staff makes it impossible to have a ruleset like this

[heartbrand]

One of my proudest achievements is getting the staff to implement LNS and a 4 level pvp range. Keep it as is.

[Smedy]

hb griefs us from his grave

[vouss]

we are just lucky staff only enforces rules 3 weeks of every 4 months

[El Camacho]

1: stop killing naked players. don't even argue it. if you kill naked players, you run of risk of "not seeing LNS called" or whatever bullshit excuse.

I'll be honest, it is always players from the guilds that despise each other or the usual toxic players that always seem to accidentally violate LNS. begging for a rule to be removed so cheaters don't keep getting banned makes no sense.


2: ask for leaderboards to be removed. easily the source of half the garbage the server deals with. I know it is the last remaining victory condition for some people, but it doesn't promote pvp and actually discourages it.


3: get guild leaders together and agree a player run system. the GMs have said they will use it if players do it.

proposition:
/roleplay off
/anonymous off
/lfg on

you are now on Loot and Scoot.

zero chance of missing someone who is naked with LFG after their name and not anonymous.

problem solved.

get guild leaders to agree, tag GM's with a post.



then GM's can take all the time in the world to code something specific for red.

[Swish]

we are just lucky staff only enforces rules 3 weeks of every 4 months

How long before we get a dedicated red GM?

Agatha are you there?

[Uuruk]

1: stop killing naked players. don't even argue it. if you kill naked players, you run of risk of "not seeing LNS called" or whatever bullshit excuse.

I'll be honest, it is always players from the guilds that despise each other or the usual toxic players that always seem to accidentally violate LNS. begging for a rule to be removed so cheaters don't keep getting banned makes no sense.


2: ask for leaderboards to be removed. easily the source of half the garbage the server deals with. I know it is the last remaining victory condition for some people, but it doesn't promote pvp and actually discourages it.


3: get guild leaders together and agree a player run system. the GMs have said they will use it if players do it.

proposition:
/roleplay off
/anonymous off
/lfg on

you are now on Loot and Scoot.

zero chance of missing someone who is naked with LFG after their name and not anonymous.

problem solved.

get guild leaders to agree, tag GM's with a post.



then GM's can take all the time in the world to code something specific for red.

See that's where you fucked up. Devs aren't going to code anything for red or give a fuck about red. See PvP Bug forums for proof. Server just needs wiped at this point.

[XiakenjaTZ]

I have OOC moved to a hidden window because there are no GMS to ban the spammers that seem to be on every night now.

[El Camacho]

See that's where you fucked up. Devs aren't going to code anything for red or give a fuck about red. See PvP Bug forums for proof. Server just needs wiped at this point.

If guild leaders agree to /anon off, /lfg on, then there really isn't any need for Devs to code anything.

Nor does wiping the server solve anything since the things people think are problems will still exist.

[magician]

nobody cares about ur opinion tune please mozy on over to blue

[syztem]

tune already plays blue, has a warrior named legday. seen him in a few NToV raid screenshots.

[Slathar]

I have OOC moved to a hidden window because there are no GMS to ban the spammers that seem to be on every night now.

happy 64th birthday man never thought you'd make it given your mental defects

[Redi]

Happy bday

[Tune]

happy bday

[hammbone]

Did Lite hack or buy Tune's account?

The string of posts are concerning.

[Uuruk]

Did Lite hack or buy Tune's account?

The string of posts are concerning.

That's 100% Lite

[miraclegrow2]

13 pages of waa from banned player

how many tigers did you grief in ot tune?

that precious faction lost , still campaigning to get himself unbanned

10% Velious dkp conversion, oh god

rekt

[Tune]

i wanted a full wipe for velious

[Shazam69x]

Just happened me as well yesterday I kill a guy, log off 15 mins or 20 then log on kill him again and he claims he just called LNS...so I go to red99 Leaderboard and look at OOC chat and yea he called LNS but didnt call what zone while I was logged off...I try to log on today....and suspended....I thought this was a red server....are we catering to carebears now like blue? The whole fun of Red back on Rallos or Zek was the idea and feeling that you could be killed anywhere at any time....

[Buhbuh]

thank you for the constructive post

can you give us some ideas you have?

thats what the discussion is for , and ignoring Colgate ofcourse , dude is a child

Food for thought - this thread is an exercise in pointlessness if you're refusing to engage with leaders of a guild that speak for what you call 80% of the server population.

GM's will say it again and again: If you want the rules to change, it has to be a unanimous (or a landslide majority) decision amongst the players. I think with two years of GMs saying that repeatedly, we can agree that's probably the truth, as it's still never happened - not once.

Some free pointers:

1. No one else matters in this discussion but the leaders of each guild
2. Use PMs
3. You, Tune, as a spokesman for this issue isn't the best idea.
4. If you want a real change, you will be engaging with Empire leaders at some point (yes, that includes Colgate).
5. Sektor, what is an escape goat?
6. If any of this is directed at anyone but leaders, you're wasting your time.

I fully expect there to be no PMs sent to one another, given that everyone now understands what must be done to change the server.

Good luck

I'm sure you can beat this dead horse for a few more years.

[Outer]

Wipe it clean for 2016?

[Slathar]

Food for thought - this thread is an exercise in pointlessness if you're refusing to engage with leaders of a guild that speak for what you call 80% of the server population.

GM's will say it again and again: If you want the rules to change, it has to be a unanimous (or a landslide majority) decision amongst the players. I think with two years of GMs saying that repeatedly, we can agree that's probably the truth, as it's still never happened - not once.

Some free pointers:

1. No one else matters in this discussion but the leaders of each guild
2. Use PMs
3. You, Tune, as a spokesman for this issue isn't the best idea.
4. If you want a real change, you will be engaging with Empire leaders at some point (yes, that includes Colgate).
5. Sektor, what is an escape goat?
6. If any of this is directed at anyone but leaders, you're wasting your time.

I fully expect there to be no PMs sent to one another, given that everyone now understands what must be done to change the server.

Good luck

I'm sure you can beat this dead horse for a few more years.


not reading this. can someone break down this manifesto of unemployment please?

[fiegi 8.0]

not reading this. can someone break down this manifesto of unemployment please?

Still laugh to this day about that $12,000 you lost throwing dice @ a casino in Chiang Mai, Thailand. gr8 story

[Nirgon]

chortled very hard at escape goat

[Redi]

not reading this. can someone break down this manifesto of unemployment please?

[Samsung]

not reading this. can someone break down this manifesto of unemployment please?

[Ragnaros]

escape goat
lmfao

[iiNGloriouS]

escape goat
lmfao

I was just kekkin bout that in ElfPals.

[Xaanka]

it really warms my heart to see players who are so immersed, a dying breed.

[Dazed]

bros the kills are logged

show me them consecutive kills

right shut up

Lol you did it blatantly on Nonsense cus you nerd raged over missing the final YT shot...

Repeat offender trying to change rules, hilarious.

:p

[grannock]

Mistakes happen

If people are zoning they might miss an LNS call
just log on? ooc off? ooc window scrolled up? not in TS?

there is no way that a one time player kill should result in a suspension ON A PVP SERVER.
But this happens time and time again.....

the way it is now it is just one big petition quest / lawyer quest

for excessive griefing / corpse camping I can see why we might want to keep it

vote now and lets fix this shit.

Are you the #1 tryhard on red99 of all time? Pretty impressive.

[Nirgon]

I dunno this system seems pretty good at repelling scum toxic to me

[Nirgon]

fill me in here.

Xepiz dies, you kill him over and over with him not calling LNS, then he finally has enough and calls LNS and you kill him? You claim you didnt see the LNS because of zoning?

I once was speeding and i didnt see the change in speed on the speed limit sign and i got pulled over and got a ticket. I explained that I didnt see it. Officer understood. I still got ticket.

7 days is not a long suspension. if you got more than 7 days then you would be a repeat offender and kind of a moot point.

I honestly dont attack naked people unless attaked first. Naked people pose no harm really and if they attack first i have logs

I believe you and Gongshow have both taken suspensions for not seeing LNS calls when zoning (and you merely swung at them but didn't kill them). Innocents are punished sometimes yes. Repeat offenders are burned.

[Tune]

I believe you and Gongshow have both taken suspensions for not seeing LNS calls when zoning (and you merely swung at them but didn't kill them). Innocents are punished sometimes yes. Repeat offenders are burned.

the point here is i dont want you guys banned either

i dont want to go through the trouble of petitioning and having the gms investigate etc and waste time when other matters are more important

u feelers

[snufzaimoverlord]

the point here is i dont want you guys banned either

i dont want to go through the trouble of petitioning and having the gms investigate etc and waste time when other matters are more important

u feelers

Man you're a baby, everyone else who gets a lil suspy takes it like a man and goes about their life.

[Tune]

Man you're a baby, everyone else who gets a lil suspy takes it like a man and goes about their life.

how am i a baby

i got suspended 1 month for killing some one by accident that got rezed into the middle of a 20v20

[Colgate 2.0]

well guess that one doesn't matter anymore since that character was permabanned

[Tune]

well guess that one doesn't matter anymore since that character was permabanned

this would rustle me, however a key part of my ideology is

Its all about the journey, not the destination

its ok though, you might realize this the day you decide to amount to anything more than a little internet troll hiding in cyber space from the reality that you are shit and an insignificant weakling.

run on sentence get some

[Doctor Jeff]

"I got banned for breaking the rules and I am mad about it." - Tune 2015

[Tune]

"I got banned for breaking the rules and I am mad about it." - Tune 2015

na not really mad

I got Derubael'd pretty hard and it was VERY inconsistent/unfair but shit happens i guess

lets stay on topic please

[Lasher]

I havent kept up on this thread. What suggestiosn have been made?

[Redi]

mostly tune talking about why he was perma banned on 20 other characters

[miraclegrow2]

those poor sabretooth tigers

[Tune]

mostly tune talking about why he was perma banned on 20 other characters

i will be talking about this for another 5 years dont go anywhere

im loving taking the opportunity and talk and bump my threads

[Tune]

actually i plan on being a knight on here for longer than that

It feels good knowing I will be slaying these shit stain Trolls for years to come.

you best remember that on CHRISTMAS

[Tune]

u guys run out of steam already?

[Ragnaros]

revamp the system you must
the force, you will have.

[Doctor Jeff]

I havent kept up on this thread. What suggestiosn have been made?

Here's a TL;DR for you pal

"I got banned for breaking the rules and I am mad about it" - Tune 2015

[Redi]

Ty Dr Jeff

[fiegi 8.0]

Made tune plug 1 v 10 last night, lots of talent involved in that fight

[Slathar]

Here's a TL;DR for you pal

"I got banned for breaking the rules and I am mad about it" - Tune 2015

who the fuck is this nobody piece of shit


fuck off back to blue fuck boy

[Tune]

Justice

[Tune]

taking this to congress

[Redi]

ur so toxic dude

[miraclegrow2]

he was toxic you mean, he is currently banned as fuck

precious faction lost, thousands of dusty tiger skins sit in bank

tune is like the sleeper, he will wake 3 years into velious, login and see no one

[heartbrand]

he was toxic you mean, he is currently banned as fuck

precious faction lost, thousands of dusty tiger skins sit in bank

tune is like the sleeper, he will wake 3 years into velious, login and see no one

That was a good1

[Tune]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

[Legday]

tune already plays blue, has a warrior named legday. seen him in a few NToV raid screenshots.

Not the same guy.

[Nirgon]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

ya, people taking the ball with it and running here at all time high

my favorite recent one was that I was "AzzarTheGod" posting on a diff account

yipes

[Tune]

dude 79% are for abolishing it or reforming it in some way

If no one wants it, seriously, why are the gms keeping it?

less work for them and more people are happy

speak up please

[heartbrand]

79% of people would prolly want to abolish taxes also

[georgie]

great comparison !

[Tune]

bump, seriously like no1 likes this thing

[TheBiznessTZ]

Had a chance to do this pre velious... No one wanted to work with gongshow...

[Redi]

Tune can we put down our swords and work together?

[Samsung]

Tune can we put down our swords and work together?

Why did you bump this awful thread. Grats on ruining my day.

[krazyGlue]

Voted no

[Redi]

I didn't bump it?

[SamwiseRed]

if you see someone naked calling lns in say shout and ooc and still attack, you are a fuckin idiot and an asshole. the only people who do not want LNS are people who play 20 hours a day. LNS is casual friendly.

anyone else find it stange that OP is someone who has has the record for most banned accounts? notorious rule breaker and exploiter wanting rules changed to suit his selfish playstyle rather than what is best for the server. voted no.

[maerilith]

I voted to rid norrath of LNS

[Redi]

Being naked is a risk, and the challenge of getting your corpse is a part of this Games hard-mode.

But, excessive bind camping can be bad if it's someone legit trying to move on, so lns has its place.

The con is that people abuse it, fake it, bait to petition etc.

Best to just not have it as serious detrimental bind camping is much rarer and less likely to happen and cam easily be stopped by any white knight online seeing it happen in global broadcast. The lack of qualified staff and the insanely slow to process petition queues just make the whole rule a shit show.

[Tassador]

Being naked is a risk, and the challenge of getting your corpse is a part of this Games hard-mode.

But, excessive bind camping can be bad if it's someone legit trying to move on, so lns has its place.

The con is that people abuse it, fake it, bait to petition etc.

Best to just not have it as serious detrimental bind camping is much rarer and less likely to happen and cam easily be stopped by any white knight online seeing it happen in global broadcast. The lack of qualified staff and the insanely slow to process petition queues just make the whole rule a shit show.

This is pretty dead on the fact that someone calls lns after dying once in the middle of casting a spell or baiting and gets someone banned is dumb. There should be at least two or three deaths involved to be considering egregious behavior.

[SamwiseRed]

okay people abusing LNS should be treated the same as people breaking LNS. noone is argueing for LNS with the idea of baiting in mind. i dont get why it's so hard for people to follow the rules. anytime ive lns'd, ive done just that. looted corpse and immediately left the zone.

sadly its the same fay gates breaking LNS that are also abusing it. some people just cant help but play dirty.

[Tune]

Being naked is a risk, and the challenge of getting your corpse is a part of this Games hard-mode.

But, excessive bind camping can be bad if it's someone legit trying to move on, so lns has its place.

The con is that people abuse it, fake it, bait to petition etc.

Best to just not have it as serious detrimental bind camping is much rarer and less likely to happen and cam easily be stopped by any white knight online seeing it happen in global broadcast. The lack of qualified staff and the insanely slow to process petition queues just make the whole rule a shit show.

holy hell i actually agree with it

[SamwiseRed]

You also agree with using macroquest, exploiting mobs, exploiting mechanics, and griefing newbs. Not surprised on your stance. Stick to contesting binds. 'Good luck'

[Tune]

You also agree with using macroquest, exploiting mobs, exploiting mechanics, and griefing newbs. Not surprised on your stance. Stick to contesting binds. 'Good luck'

dude you don't even play, cant take anything u say seriously

making stuff up about me won't make me mad, it just made me laugh

[SamwiseRed]

I'd laugh at myself too if I maxed every tradeskill and faction only to get banned.

[Tune]

I'd laugh at myself too if I maxed every tradeskill and faction only to get banned.

didn't even have that but ok,

also why so mad?

[SamwiseRed]

Let's not play dumb here. You are the type of player who will bend and break every rule possible if allowed.

[Tune]

Let's not play dumb here. You are the type of player who will bend and break every rule possible if allowed.

what kool aid are you drinking?

[Samsung]

Samwise says it how it is Tune. Stay in denial all you want. Eventually you will move on from the bard.

[Ragnaros]

He literally has more characters, gear, and plat now than he did before he got banned
get new jokes lol

[shokar]

Let's not play dumb here. You are the type of player who will bend and break every rule possible if allowed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWsFbybkgHM&t=12s

[SamwiseRed]

He literally has more characters, gear, and plat now than he did before he got banned
get new jokes lol

im not joking. i cant think of anything more pathetic than cheating on a 16 year old elf sim. empire or not empire, cheaters are cheaters.

if you think for a second tune would champion a change for the better of the server and not for his own selfish play style, you are drunk.

[quido]

Tune cheats at Everquest - enough said. It's not a lie, it's not because anyone hates him - it's because it's true. Tune cheats at Everquest.

[FAPhoenix]

Let's not play dumb here. You are the type of player who will bend and break every rule possible if allowed.

Maybe I have the wrong guy...but didn't you RMT? Is this a case of a fisherman always sees another fisherman?

[SamwiseRed]

lol? I don't think I've ever had anything worth RMT but no. I'd never do that. Whistle clean since classic. Never banned. Integrity never compromised.

[quido]

Samwise you used to kill people on red for no reason - you are a bad person.

[SamwiseRed]

i also used to port people after i killed them and in some cases rez before LNS was a thing.

[quido]

How dare you PvP people on a PvP server?? You monster.

[Tune]

Tune cheats at Everquest - enough said. It's not a lie, it's not because anyone hates him - it's because it's true. Tune cheats at Everquest.

those logs tho

but u are probably drinking kool aid and turning a blind eye i guess

[quido]

I've seen you blatantly cheat - lots of people have, Tune. You're just hoping everyone will forget, but we won't.

[hurtinu]

Leveled to 59 so far, only killed on a corpse run twice. The real issue with this server is twinks killing people as they level up, it makes people quit. I played on sz good team where you could get an ice comet dropped on your head from level 1 so it didn't bother me too much but most people who start here likely quit. I was leveling in sol B with a group of new players and we got killed by twinks 4 times in a row (by different twinks), 3 of those players rage quit and never came back.

I know its not OG but put a required level on stuff that toons of that level shouldn't be able to afford... Everyone is going to lash out at this because they enjoy killing new players with a massive gear disparity, but its okay after another 4 years on the box they will be good enough at pvp they don't need that huge advantage.

Edit: Also lets make training raids on this server legal so empire actually has to be alert to protect their raids.. Just ask SpeeddSZ what sort of effect this can have.

[Xaanka]

this thread sucks and Tune is a nerd!! bro you are a serious retard. can't wait for you to make a thread about luclin next! its just a video game dont kno why youre breatheng heavey

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[Redi]

?

[Tune]

so... to stay on topic

some one said if you are

1) naked
2) un-anon
3) with afk tag up

that will "flag" you on lns, to avoid some confusion if you have some one on ignore or OOC off.

can we at least try this?

[bubur]

no

2 hard 2 scrip

[bubur]

i personally enjoy the grey area. lns bannings arent all that common

maybe this isnt as big of a deal as you think it is

[Tune]

no

2 hard 2 scrip

there is no script involved the player does it himself

[bubur]

i exclusively play drunk so i prefer having less things to remember to do

voted no

[FAPhoenix]

i personally enjoy the grey area. lns bannings arent all that common

maybe this isnt as big of a deal as you think it is

7 day suspension for non -blatant camping is a bit much. It's why the last Empire to kill a Tempest on LNS sent multiple messages asking us not to petition (we didn't). He shouldn't have to worry that much about a one off mistake.

[bubur]

as per my last message put me in the abolish it completely catagory

[Ragnaros]

or you could not be a retard and avoid killing nakeds

[Doctor Jeff]

or you could not be a retard and avoid killing nakeds

this

don't break the rules, don't bait people into breaking the rules.

Play to have fun, it's not that hard.

[Tune]

these are quite possibly the most idiotic remarks i've read in a whilw

being naked should not make u immune to pvp.

so u want me to bag all my gear and run around naked? to be safe from pvp?

the point is there is too many baiters and not enough leniency for some one that makes a mistake , then allows the person to get their corpse

[FAPhoenix]

too many baiters and not enough leniency for some one that makes a mistake , then allows the person to get their corpse

I've never had a problem with LNS or petitioned. My only deaths on LNS were honest mistakes by the players. I clearly shout it in zone and once or twice in ooc. It's people who think one ooc is enough and GM's who suspend first and rarely seem to investigate. My guess is because they are used to blue players, where causing a death is nearly impossible without intent.

[Tassador]

Dying once is shit with no exp penalty. Lns is whacked unless the guy is on your bind spot find something else to do or make friends you simple eq player.

[Telron]

aint no one gettin suspended for an accident stop making shit up.

[Redi]

Sorry but just because you are naked doesn't give you a free pass

This is a pvp server

[totmanc]

I think the LNS suspensions needs to be looked at with some greater detail. There needs to be a deterrent for stopping delinquent behavior however slamming suspensions that grow in duration is not the SOLUTION


The suspensions for a single lns kill that last 2 weeks - 1 month are a bit much for causing someone 15 minutes of grief cause people to quit the game.

Whole system was well thought out originally but as all things that require beta testing it needs a revamp to stay relevant.

And GM's I am calling you out due diligence in looking at these LNS violations wouldn't hurt you would it. I mean Tune did kill someone who screamed LNS that is not up for debate but the pvp he was LNSing from happened 4 days ago and the amount of people who fake cry wolf LNS while taking exp deaths and waiting for rezes happens all the time.

Now some bullet points that I think would be good changes:
1) Punish those who fake loot and scoot ----> *cough* puddems multiple times
2) I love the idea of going un anon and putting the AFK tab next to your name to show that you looting and scooting is a great idea.
3) Having some semblance of actual investigation by GM // Guides to.
4) Limit the Suspension of all but the BIGGEST LNS violators to only 7 days.

Flame away forums!

[Doctor Jeff]

iirc LNS is for when you are being prevented from retrieving your corpse to allow you to retrieve it and go do something else.

That seems like a good rule.

strut posted while i was typing this. Strut has goog ideas. Pras Strut. Strut for president of the United Arab Emirates

[Tune]

aint no one gettin suspended for an accident stop making shit up.

are u kidding me this has happened to me 3 times. I have obeyed lns about 84748272 times. this is pretty unreasonable

[Doctor Jeff]

"I broke the rules and got banned for it, now I'm mad." - Tune 2016

[Tune]

it's not only that. it's also the same shit happens to me and nothing gets done ever. same old corrupt 99 bullshit.

[FAPhoenix]

I think the LNS suspensions needs to be looked at with some greater detail.

The suspensions for a single lns kill that last 2 weeks - 1 month are a bit much for causing someone 15 minutes of grief cause people to quit the game.

Tune did kill someone who screamed LNS that is not up for debate but the pvp he was LNSing from happened 4 days ago and the amount of people who fake cry wolf LNS while taking exp deaths and waiting for rezes happens all the time.

Now some bullet points that I think would be good changes:
1) Punish those who fake loot and scoot ----> *cough* puddems multiple times
2) I love the idea of going un anon and putting the AFK tab next to your name to show that you looting and scooting is a great idea.
3) Having some semblance of actual investigation by GM // Guides to.
4) Limit the Suspension of all but the BIGGEST LNS violators to only 7 days.

A 4 day old LNS...classic as hell right?

[SamwiseRed]

"I broke the rules and got banned for it, now I'm mad." - Tune 2016

[Telron]

are u kidding me this has happened to me 3 times. I have obeyed lns about 84748272 times. this is pretty unreasonable

Banned 3 times and innocent. Yup.

[SamwiseRed]

Anyone else find it weird that these bans always happen to the same players. I've been here a long time and never banned for anything. Why is following the rules so hard? If you see a naked dude running calling LNS, leave him alone or take a gamble at getting your account banned. Your choice. If your KDR is that important that you need to secure every naked kill possible, I suggest you take up another game.

[Telron]

I agree Sam, been here for years never been banned. I guess I'm just a cool and normal.

[vouss]

Anyone else find it weird that these bans always happen to the same players. I've been here a long time and never banned for anything. Why is following the rules so hard? If you see a naked dude running calling LNS, leave him alone or take a gamble at getting your account banned. Your choice. If your KDR is that important that you need to secure every naked kill possible, I suggest you take up another game.
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or just kill them take the ban and not complain, play another one of my 16 level 60's. Idiots

[SamwiseRed]

taking ban without crying about on the forums is definitely a more honorable path than this.

[shokar]

Anyone else find it weird that these bans always happen to the same players. I've been here a long time and never banned for anything. Why is following the rules so hard? If you see a naked dude running calling LNS, leave him alone or take a gamble at getting your account banned. Your choice. If your KDR is that important that you need to secure every naked kill possible, I suggest you take up another game.

The guy was running naked through a Mass pvp fight. You make it seem like it was a deliberate grief slaying. No one realized he LNSing.

[Kevynne]

taking ban without crying about on the forums is definitely a more honorable path than this.

[SamwiseRed]

The guy was running naked through a Mass pvp fight. You make it seem like it was a deliberate grief slaying. No one realized he LNSing.

Lol first of all no. There was no mass pvp fight. That guy was me and I recorded the whole thing. Tunes tells afterward is the only reason I submitted the blatant rule breaking. Otherwise I would've just lnsd again. Dude is a shit head. Enjoy your vaca

[Colgate]

"I broke the rules and got banned for it, now I'm mad." - Tune 2016

[shokar]

Lol first of all no. There was no mass pvp fight. That guy was me and I recorded the whole thing. Tunes tells afterward is the only reason I submitted the blatant rule breaking. Otherwise I would've just lnsd again. Dude is a shit head. Enjoy your vaca
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8QRExBfQhs
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So basically what I'm hearing is a Casual Scum member (you) tried to LNS through an area where an active Mass pvp fight was happening, and you died.

[SamwiseRed]

are you a fuckin idiot? i logged on to LNS before my corpse rotted. my pvp death had nothing to do with any mass pvp. i died at OT hammer in because thats all your guild is capable of doing. only people in OT was an empire guy and a few of you guys.

[Tue Mar 01 23:10:39 2016] Drybone tells you, 'w.e dude servers gay anyway '
[Tue Mar 01 23:10:42 2016] It will take about 5 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Tue Mar 01 23:10:43 2016] Drybone tells you, 'i need a vaca i guess '

'good luck'

[shokar]

are you a fuckin idiot? i logged on to LNS before my corpse rotted. my pvp death had nothing to do with any mass pvp. i died at OT hammer in because thats all your guild is capable of doing. only people in OT was an empire guy and a few of you guys.

[Tue Mar 01 23:10:39 2016] Drybone tells you, 'w.e dude servers gay anyway '
[Tue Mar 01 23:10:42 2016] It will take about 5 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Tue Mar 01 23:10:43 2016] Drybone tells you, 'i need a vaca i guess '

'good luck'

So you were LNSing 4 days after the yellow text, and you expected to live?

[SamwiseRed]

maybe you should read the rules of the server before trying to lead a guild into the gound. yiKes

i can already tell <Tempest> is gonna be Empire's greatest recruiting tool.

[shokar]

maybe you should read the rules of the server before trying to lead a guild into the gound. yiKes

I've made my point - If you want to start resorting to personal attacks, I have nothing left to discuss with you.

[TheBiznessTZ]

I always ask myself.... Is YTing this person who is naked and who could be on LNS worth it? Does YTing this naked person net me any gains? Will getting my account suspended for LNS violation inconvenience me?

Been playing this box for a year now. Never been hit with a LNS ban. I must be doing something right. Must suck to suck tune.

[SamwiseRed]

nothing personal, just calling out ignorance. you guys aren't even a week old and already have 3-4 members serving suspensions right now. the fuck are you guys doing? are you being shitheads on purpose?

[Colgate]

there's nothing in the rules that state a time period during which you have to call LNS after dying

there's nothing that says an individual player not involved in a fight can't LNS from a zone that has other players PvPing in it

blueflower coming off as angsty and dumb over tune repeatedly breaking the rules and getting butthurt when he gets punished

[FAPhoenix]

there's nothing in the rules that state a time period during which you have to call LNS after dying

there's nothing that says an individual player not involved in a fight can't LNS from a zone that has other players PvPing in it

blueflower coming off as angsty and dumb over tune repeatedly breaking the rules and getting butthurt when he gets punished

Super classic, 4 day LNS...

[Tune]

there's nothing in the rules that state a time period during which you have to call LNS after dying

there's nothing that says an individual player not involved in a fight can't LNS from a zone that has other players PvPing in it

blueflower coming off as angsty and dumb over tune repeatedly breaking the rules and getting butthurt when he gets punished


yes there is its called force lns

you dont even pvp shut up

[Tune]

are you a fuckin idiot? i logged on to LNS before my corpse rotted. my pvp death had nothing to do with any mass pvp. i died at OT hammer in because thats all your guild is capable of doing. only people in OT was an empire guy and a few of you guys.

[Tue Mar 01 23:10:39 2016] Drybone tells you, 'w.e dude servers gay anyway '
[Tue Mar 01 23:10:42 2016] It will take about 5 more seconds to prepare your camp.
[Tue Mar 01 23:10:43 2016] Drybone tells you, 'i need a vaca i guess '

'good luck'

you blew me up in tells what was i supposed to do but troll you back

it was not a blantant rule break , sorry it just wasnt

[SamwiseRed]

why would i have to force lns for something i wasnt part of. i had been CRing over an hour (3 boats rides) and planned to log after i looted corpse. its all recorded on my stream from neriak to OT so GL arguing I had anything to do with any battle. people like Tune are what's wrong with the server. cheating exploiters who have been breaking rules since classic. good riddance i say.

[Tune]

why would i have to force lns for something i wasnt part of. i had been CRing over an hour (3 boats rides) and planned to log after i looted corpse. its all recorded on my stream from neriak to OT so GL arguing I had anything to do with any battle. people like Tune are what's wrong with the server. cheating exploiters who have been breaking rules since classic. good riddance i say.

there is no reasoning with you

you have reach a level of mad / brain rot that is unthinkable

im sorry i killed u dude if i had to read all this for several days + trust me i never would have done it

[SamwiseRed]

you blew me up in tells what was i supposed to do but troll you back

it was not a blantant rule break , sorry it just wasnt

ya me telling you im on lns while you were hitting me isnt blatant. i even warned you i was recording before you finally killed me. you dont care about rules, you never have. you cheat at a 16 year old elf sim and are all around toxic. you aren't fooling anyone dude.

'good luck'

[Tune]

ya me telling you im on lns while you were hitting me isnt blatant. i even warned you i was recording before you finally killed me. you dont care about rules, you never have. you cheat at a 16 year old elf sim and are all around toxic. you aren't fooling anyone dude.

'good luck'

dude i wasnt reading ooc

u didnt die for 5 days
were talking shit in ooc
and were amidst mass pvp

this is a video game v-i-d-e-o

same thing happened to me and the gms didnt do a shit


good luck to U sir

[AzzarTheGod]

there's nothing in the rules that state a time period during which you have to call LNS after dying

there's nothing that says an individual player not involved in a fight can't LNS from a zone that has other players PvPing in it

blueflower coming off as angsty and dumb over tune repeatedly breaking the rules and getting butthurt when he gets punished

[SamwiseRed]

dude i wasnt reading ooc

u didnt die for 5 days
were talking shit in ooc
and were amidst mass pvp

this is a video game v-i-d-e-o

same thing happened to me and the gms didnt do a shit


good luck to U sir

hence why i said i was on LNS in say and shout.

i was not talking shit in ooc. i have logs and fraps. post proof or shut up. the only thing i said in ooc was that i was on lns or something along those lines.

there was no mass pvp from neriak to OT. again this was all on my stream so there is really no arguing otherwise. i dont care if pvp was happening in skyfire. i had nothing to do with it nor does it have anything to do with OT. i was CRing long before pvp happened.

yes this is a video game yet you still take it serious enough to break any and every rule you think you can get away with. i mean what kind of fuckin loser exploits in this game lol. probably someone who takes this game way too seriously.

[Telron]

Tune most banned player on the box. Lol yikes.

[Telron]

nothing personal, just calling out ignorance. you guys aren't even a week old and already have 3-4 members serving suspensions right now. the fuck are you guys doing? are you being shitheads on purpose?

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