Decision Making Suspension: Sirken

[Fire Beetle]

How can someone concede a mob and then petition against the fact that they conceded? Why concede in the first place?

That is some serious bullshit and I hope this is looked into.

If a guild leader is talking to another guild leader and asks to concede a mob and the other guild leader accepts that situation these guild leaders are inherently taking matters into their own hands. This type of method is encouraged by the staff of this sever. So now we have more precedent that server staff will enforce decisions over the player agreed decisions.

Server is dead. Glad I don't play anymore.

[baue1446]

Forsaken gets Vulak--- forsaken gets suspended... coincidence?

[dafier]

LOL! WTF is this?

[Seltius]

Wait did that seriously happen?

[Fire Beetle]

Wait did that seriously happen?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222634

[Monty405]

http://i1.wp.com/magnetoboldtoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/but-wait-theres-more.jpg

I'm waiting...

[Tuljin]

Server is dead. Glad I don't play anymore.

The server is bleeding population and its only slightly higher when more people are at login screen when durgans are in window. One of the last rumbles right before Velious launch brought in 1571 players or whatever it was, which was a record. This server will never hit that again. Friday and Saturday nights lately it barely breaks 1k. This population will not go up. In August the population was up a bit higher but after August it dropped precipitously.

P99 is plainly a pet project and nothing more. The "word is out" that this server is a shithole. There's nothing "classic" about it anymore, which was its selling point in the first place. The staff really doesn't care either, and that's 100% their prerogative.

Cater to the neckbeards who ruined this server and ruined the classic EQ experience or strive for a healthy server population and unique ways to attract new players. The choice they made is clear.

[maskedmelon]

P99's goal is to recreate classic Everquest. Current servers are just beta ^^

[Pokesan]

Nice staff bashing OP. I look forward to your smiting.

[Filthy_Pagan]

Nice staff bashing OP. I look forward to your smiting.

http://www.chaindlk.com/interview_archives/interview_images/Bombs/Bombs_pic.jpg

[Fire Beetle]

http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/03/Emotional-GIF-Come-at-me-bro.gif?gs=a

[nhdjoseywales]

Try Phinny.

[Expediency]

One of the last rumbles right before Velious launch brought in 1571 players or whatever it was, which was a record. This server will never hit that again. Friday and Saturday nights lately it barely breaks 1k.

If 1571 people is a record then my login screen isnt reporting me accurate totals. I have seen that number exceeded on many occasions.

The real problem with p99 isnt the game server, its these message boards. Its overwhelmingly negative in a way that the game server isnt at all. There's hardly any moderation: people are allowed to post as 50 different names, people hijack every thread by the third page with and return to the same handful of topics that belong in RnF, people are allowed to quit or get banned and keep posting two years later about how much it sucks here.

I absolutely understand why it is hard to find people to trust to act as guides or GMs on p99, but the owners here should strongly consider getting some forum moderators that have zero in-game power who can clean this place up. That would also free up the guides/GMs that have been vetted to deal with in-game problems.

[Fire Beetle]

Sorry should I write a professional letter to illuminate the issues with raid suspensions and how the raid scene is handled? RnF is as classic as it gets homeboy.

Seems a hand full of people agree with me as no one has questioned the merit of the initial post; only the delivery method.

[Sweettouch]

Take your suspension and stop crying you got off lucky

[Fire Beetle]

Take your suspension and stop crying you got off lucky

Tell me more?!

[Fanguru]

http://i.imgur.com/nbMMWzP.jpg

[dafier]

http://i.imgur.com/nbMMWzP.jpg

HA!

[Fire Beetle]

Scared. Shocked. Afraid. Satisfied. Happy. Overjoyed.

https://media.giphy.com/media/26tOXN8rltzRWOh8s/giphy.gif

[Ella`Ella]

Before she one Miss Universe, I could have fucked her. Now the bitch has an ego.

[Ella`Ella]

wow... "won".

[Spyder73]

If 1571 people is a record then my login screen isnt reporting me accurate totals. I have seen that number exceeded on many occasions.

The real problem with p99 isnt the game server, its these message boards. Its overwhelmingly negative in a way that the game server isnt at all. There's hardly any moderation: people are allowed to post as 50 different names, people hijack every thread by the third page with and return to the same handful of topics that belong in RnF, people are allowed to quit or get banned and keep posting two years later about how much it sucks here.

I absolutely understand why it is hard to find people to trust to act as guides or GMs on p99, but the owners here should strongly consider getting some forum moderators that have zero in-game power who can clean this place up. That would also free up the guides/GMs that have been vetted to deal with in-game problems.

If you don't like RNF then fuck off and don't click on it, the rest of the server forums are heavily monitored and all the posts in here are people jacking around at work for the most part. Saying RNF is ruining the server is like saying "i got AIDS because I was sad" ....it makes no sense and is baseless

[Heebo]

Before she one Miss Universe, I could have fucked her. Now the bitch has an ego.
http://i.imgur.com/iu1wPz7.jpg

[ArumTP]

Tell me more?!

Sweettouch, always angry BDA poster.

[Safon]

The server is bleeding population and its only slightly higher when more people are at login screen when durgans are in window. One of the last rumbles right before Velious launch brought in 1571 players or whatever it was, which was a record. This server will never hit that again. Friday and Saturday nights lately it barely breaks 1k. This population will not go up. In August the population was up a bit higher but after August it dropped precipitously.

P99 is plainly a pet project and nothing more. The "word is out" that this server is a shithole. There's nothing "classic" about it anymore, which was its selling point in the first place. The staff really doesn't care either, and that's 100% their prerogative.

Cater to the neckbeards who ruined this server and ruined the classic EQ experience or strive for a healthy server population and unique ways to attract new players. The choice they made is clear.

You truly have no idea what these servers are about

Typical from a newcomer though

[Waedawen]

You truly have no idea what these servers are about

Oh, brother.

[JurisDictum]

As a member of the FA raid alliance, I'm annoyed by such a long suspension over something that was clearly not intentional; however, a rule for this is clearly needed. You cannot reasonably expect both raids in a highly contentious race to pause 15-30 mins while we review each others' fraps and litigate if a concession is in order. So there is a a potential problem that someone will take FA or RT's word on what they have fraps on -- only to find out the whole thing was fabricated. That is what this rule is intended to prevent.

I am worried that the practical consequence of enforcing this rule however -- will be that both guilds take more of their problems to the server staff than working it amongst themselves. It is way better to hold on to your prof of a false concession for Sirken in order to get a month suspension, than to address the issue with the opposing leadership and getting a 2 week concession agreement -- which I'm sure both FA and Sirken would have preferred in this situation.

I think there needs to be stricter guild lines about false concessions. Namely, you should have to attempt to work it out with the opposing guild's leadership before petitioning.

[Pokesan]

Rather than fixing trains, Sirken makes the bold decision to outlaw lying. Let's see how this works out (lol it won't be good)

[Oleris]

rampage conceded for 1 hour.... CT spawns within 3 minutes, FAT kills CT, FA kills Dagarn before hour is up. Jimmies rustled

[khysanth]

The guild who cried concede, it was bound to happen eventually. Hilarious stuff!

[JurisDictum]

The guild who cried concede, it was bound to happen eventually. Hilarious stuff!

It would be a real hoot if the staff did something about the 6 cry wolf petitions your guild filed this week.

[khysanth]

Just plain hilarious!

[jcr4990]

Glad to see Forsaken finally eating some suspensions for their bullshit. Pras Sirken.

http://replygif.net/i/1095.gif

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

So there is a a potential problem that someone will take FA or RT's word

FA or RT? FA, RT. FA, RT.

That is the question. Whether it is better to FA, and suffer the ignominious slings and broken arrow mechanics of elf simulator fortune, or to RT, and by thus venturing, end them?

To FA or RT, that is the question.

[Monty405]

Glad to see Forsaken finally eating some suspensions for their bullshit. Pras Sirken.

http://replygif.net/i/1095.gif

One day BDA will get theirs. A great sigh of relief will fill the air of RnF.

[jcr4990]

Lol this child doesn't even know what happened just assumes. You may be the youngest player on p99

I think Nixxar is just holding a grudge from that time when he lost lawyerquest at puppets. It all makes sense I can't believe I didn't see it before.

http://i.imgur.com/2ETOq54.jpg

[Pokesan]

detective dipshit has cracked the case! congratulations

now you can start on the mystery of BDA being relegated to kunark content in the velious expansion

work on it

[Monty405]

detective dipshit has cracked the case! congratulations

now you can start on the mystery of BDA being relegated to kunark content in the velious expansion

work on it

Now now. I'm sure They could legitimately engage that named spider in crystal caverns.

[jcr4990]

detective dipshit has cracked the case! congratulations

now you can start on the mystery of BDA being relegated to kunark content in the velious expansion

work on it

That's a mystery? BDA members are mostly employed and don't want anything to do with multi guild 100+ player zerg forces. Mystery solved.

[maskedmelon]

detective dipshit has cracked the case! congratulations

now you can start on the mystery of BDA being relegated to kunark content in the velious expansion

work on it

Masterful! Irrefutable entitlement of an additional 1 FKP!

[captnamazing]

That's a mystery? BDA members are mostly employed and don't want anything to do with multi guild 100+ player zerg forces. Mystery solved.

talking to members of soup with serious answers is retarded

maybe you should throw on the tag in your sig.

[Pokesan]

talking to members of soup with serious answers is retarded

maybe you should throw on the tag in your sig.

maybe YOU should

[captnamazing]

maybe YOU should

I hereby motion 2 FKPs to the coffers of Captnamazing, the Ultimate and Supreme Dictator and Holy Caliphate of SoRP, for the sheer retarded nature of his thread (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222731), as well as the ravenous speed with which he assumed control of this cancerous union.

All that disagree will be put to the Flame.

[Pokesan]

I hereby motion 2 FKPs to the coffers of Captnamazing, the Ultimate and Supreme Dictator and Holy Caliphate of SoRP, for the sheer retarded nature of his thread (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222731), as well as the ravenous speed with which he assumed control of this cancerous union.

All that disagree will be put to the Flame.

Motion all you want, but it has to be seconded before I even consider it and I have veto power.

much like FAT vetos your FTEs lol!

[captnamazing]

much like FAT vetos your FTEs lol!

i don't play EQ. it is the place of the Supreme Caliph to only forumquest. you should know this, my young apprentice. The motion WILL be seconded

[Pokesan]

i don't play EQ. it is the place of the Supreme Caliph to only forumquest. you should know this, my young apprentice. The motion WILL be seconded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12Sh5emOl9U&t=2m44s

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2147337#post2147337

[Xaanka]

CONSIDER RED

[radda]

i don't play EQ.

bullshit

[ManuelThePopStar]

The server is bleeding population and its only slightly higher when more people are at login screen when durgans are in window. One of the last rumbles right before Velious launch brought in 1571 players or whatever it was, which was a record. This server will never hit that again. Friday and Saturday nights lately it barely breaks 1k. This population will not go up. In August the population was up a bit higher but after August it dropped precipitously.

P99 is plainly a pet project and nothing more. The "word is out" that this server is a shithole. There's nothing "classic" about it anymore, which was its selling point in the first place. The staff really doesn't care either, and that's 100% their prerogative.

Cater to the neckbeards who ruined this server and ruined the classic EQ experience or strive for a healthy server population and unique ways to attract new players. The choice they made is clear.

Absolutely, 100%, correct.

Sirken even stated on his Sunday stream this week that "there's already custom content in the works specifically for those nearing BIS Velious gear "

He continued....."these players should always have new content available." Additionally that if you're " not nearing BIS Velious gear you dont deserve said custom content to be available to you" that there's "already content in game for you to spend your time on."

[Ravager]

CONSIDER RED

Holy shit, there's a red server now?

[Baler]

https://45.media.tumblr.com/bcb8ce4ccbc30ceda0606ffbfd2cd52c/tumblr_mk6ipxdvX21rb0fqao1_500.gif

[ArumTP]

Glad to see Forsaken finally eating some suspensions for their bullshit. Pras Sirken.

http://replygif.net/i/1095.gif

Every post you make, makes you sound like a Rampage app. A ruling comes out unfavorable to forsaken, this benefits you how? RT and FA represent maybe 10-20% of the server population at any given time online. Engaging in endgame content that 80-90% of the server won't even see. What those two groups do has no impact on most of the server. You and your guild is in that 80-90%, but do go on how forsaken wronging you. Even with now a month of dagarn spawning, I suspect your guild won't even attempt it.

[Troubled]

Every post you make, makes you sound like a Rampage app. A ruling comes out unfavorable to forsaken, this benefits you how? RT and FA represent maybe 10-20% of the server population at any given time online. Engaging in endgame content that 80-90% of the server won't even see. What those two groups do has no impact on most of the server. You and your guild is in that 80-90%, but do go on how forsaken wronging you. Even with now a month of dagarn spawning, I suspect your guild won't even attempt it.

Any suspension is good suspension.

[captnamazing]

Every post you make, makes you sound like a Rampage app. A ruling comes out unfavorable to forsaken, this benefits you how? RT and FA represent maybe 10-20% of the server population at any given time online. Engaging in endgame content that 80-90% of the server won't even see. What those two groups do has no impact on most of the server. You and your guild is in that 80-90%, but do go on how forsaken wronging you. Even with now a month of dagarn spawning, I suspect your guild won't even attempt it.

bda regularly duos and some ppl even solo noble dagarn for his very nice ring..

[Swish]

Any suspension is good suspension.

Is that coming from an <Empire> lackey or a <BDA> lackey?

[Troubled]

http://images.amcnetworks.com/bbcamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/460x300_austinpowers.jpg

[Mead]

I'm not sure if anyone of you have actually seen Detoxx in action, but he literally tells you to concede via tells or ooc every single mob that he's ever lost. It's a god damn joke at this point and I'm surprised it took this long for him to get told that isn't proper behavior.

[Ella`Ella]

Velious should have been released without raid content on blue. Ya'll don't deserve pixels.

[Ruinous]

Velious should have been released without raid content on blue. Ya'll don't deserve pixels.

And you do?

Why? Because you raid on a 1 guild server that couldn't possibly ever have the same problems as blue (competition)?

[Monty405]

It'll die down. Look at Vindi.

In the meantime, there's a BDA bear to poke.

[Sweettouch]

Better conceded this thread Foreskin.you lost your own pity party which isn't shocking. The shocking part is it took this fucking long

[Fire Beetle]

The Foreskin shocking party. Pity it isn't shocking. Your fucking your own better part which conceded this thread. It took you this long. Lost.

Fixed your quote with your own words.

[captnamazing]

Fixed your quote with your own words.

I sense great Retardation in thy posts, O green con fire_beetle... your path will wind towards the Society.

[Fire Beetle]

I never said it made any sense. I just gave it a quick try.

[jcr4990]

Every post you make, makes you sound like a Rampage app. A ruling comes out unfavorable to forsaken, this benefits you how? RT and FA represent maybe 10-20% of the server population at any given time online. Engaging in endgame content that 80-90% of the server won't even see. What those two groups do has no impact on most of the server. You and your guild is in that 80-90%, but do go on how forsaken wronging you. Even with now a month of dagarn spawning, I suspect your guild won't even attempt it.

It's a benefit to every person on P99 when a guild that regularly engages in toxic behavior gets punished for it. Doesn't matter what guild they're in. Discouraging douchebaggery is a good thing for everyone.

I actually was an IB app back in the day. This is public knowledge. I still have a good chunk of good friends there. In my experience IB/Rampage conducts themselves in a pretty respectable manner for the most part. I can't say the same for my experiences with Forsaken/TMO. That was the main reason I app'd to IB over TMO back in the day. TMO was openly and blatantly being douchefucks just like Forsaken does now and IB was for the most part playing clean and beating the shit out of TMO in the process. Just like Rampage is doing to Forsaken now. Funny how history repeats itself.

[Legday]

beating the shit out of TMO in the process. Just like Rampage is doing to Forsaken now.

In other news, all German's are still Nazis and the Dolphins are still playing well on the heels of their 1984 super bowl appearance.

Sorry but thanks for confirming that 1) you are basing your impression of these guilds off of the way that they were years ago and 2) you don't know the balance of who is winning on end game content as of late.

[Fuddwin]

In other news, all German's are still Nazis and the Dolphins are still playing well on the heels of their 1984 super bowl appearance.

Sorry but thanks for confirming that 1) you are basing your impression of these guilds off of the way that they were years ago and 2) you don't know the balance of who is winning on end game content as of late.

Poor Trollolololol (Variety)

[Fanguru]

Who is winning on end game content as of late?

[Legday]

Who is winning on end game content as of late?

Pretty even.

[Fanguru]

If you read the recruitment threads, if feels like everyone is crushing their competition, it's all well spinned :p

[Fire Beetle]

If you read the recruitment threads, if feels like everyone is crushing their competition, it's all well spinned :p

Not a business man are you?

[captnamazing]

Pretty even.

Bda is the strongest guild because all others require alliances

[Vianna]

Bda is the strongest guild because all others require alliances

I mean that was pretty funny. However, I think anyone with common sense learned BDA is the place to go if you want to watch other guilds kill things. No offense to BDA at all being in a casual guild is good for some people. It just means you aren't really ever going to see the content at the end game of the server. I just don't know if as a casual player being guilded with some of the officers in BDA is as appealing as it once was with the way you guys have acted in the last year.

[captnamazing]

Bda officers are the strongest because they are all pro wrestlers. They beat us up if we question them.

[ismael]

Who is winning on end game content as of late?

Probably the guild that has an entire raid zone to themselves and doesn't feel the need to flex nuts 10 times a day on their guild thread.

Just a guess though.

[Oleris]

Bda officers are the strongest because they are all pro wrestlers. They beat us up if we question them.

BDA like WCW in 2000

[ArumTP]

I actually was an IB app back in the day. This is public knowledge. I still have a good chunk of good friends there. In my experience IB/Rampage conducts themselves in a pretty respectable manner for the most part. I can't say the same for my experiences with Forsaken/TMO. That was the main reason I app'd to IB over TMO back in the day. TMO was openly and blatantly being douchefucks just like Forsaken does now and IB was for the most part playing clean and beating the shit out of TMO in the process. Just like Rampage is doing to Forsaken now. Funny how history repeats itself.

When exactly do you raid against Rampage or Forsaken/Asgard? You are part of the 80-90% that aren't even relay interacting with either of us. You praise rampage solely because at one time you app'd to IB. Offhand I can think of times you were in the mix for content racing.

-Ikitar- When your pull caused a massive train wiping out Forsaken/Asgard repeatedly. I think Rampage got hit as well.
-Dain- FAT lagged wiped and died. Rampaged lagged wiped and died. BDA lagged wiped and died 90%. FAT recovered and got that dain, and is blamed for your misfortunes, despite you admitting you got no proof of wrongdoing.
-Dain the following week- 10 min left in window, your guild just leaves without even trying.
-Telk- Completely awestruck and mad how dragons get pulled here. Got mad thinking it was simple as just running up and attacking it

So of those 4 times I can think offhand, 3 of those you lost to FA(t), and because of this Rampage plays clean and FA does not.

[Tasslehofp99]

It's a benefit to every person on P99 when a guild that regularly engages in toxic behavior gets punished for it. Doesn't matter what guild they're in. Discouraging douchebaggery is a good thing for everyone.

I actually was an IB app back in the day. This is public knowledge. I still have a good chunk of good friends there. In my experience IB/Rampage conducts themselves in a pretty respectable manner for the most part. I can't say the same for my experiences with Forsaken/TMO. That was the main reason I app'd to IB over TMO back in the day. TMO was openly and blatantly being douchefucks just like Forsaken does now and IB was for the most part playing clean and beating the shit out of TMO in the process. Just like Rampage is doing to Forsaken now. Funny how history repeats itself.

rofl this is what delusion with a bit of jealousy and anger looks like

[Man0warr]

-Telk- Completely awestruck and mad how dragons get pulled here. Got mad thinking it was simple as just running up and attacking it



Eh we have 8-10 Telk/Gozz kills, not a mystery.

[Herp]

Pretty even.

Even? There's mobs that Rampage killed on launch night in full Kunark gear that you haven't even killed.

[Herp]

Last time Forsaken killed a difficult Velious mob without leashing Asgard along: 2.5 months ago? Remind me.

[Legday]

Even? There's mobs that Rampage killed on launch night in full Kunark gear that you haven't even killed.

Which mobs are those?

[Ella`Ella]

Even? There's mobs that Rampage killed on launch night in full Kunark gear that you haven't even killed.

Which mobs?

[jcr4990]

ITT: A bunch of absolutely brainwashed/delusional FA kids that think they're "about even" with Rampage. Newsflash FA: Everyone knows that isn't true no matter how much you tell yourselves it is. Stop drinking the Detoxx koolaid guys. It's too late for some of you but for some there's still hope. Get out while u can. If u need someone to talk to you can always PM me I'd be glad to help you break free of your indoctrination.

[Legday]

ITT: A bunch of absolutely brainwashed/delusional FA kids that think they're "about even" with Rampage. Newsflash FA: Everyone knows that isn't true no matter how much you tell yourselves it is. Stop drinking the Detoxx koolaid guys. It's too late for some of you but for some there's still hope. Get out while u can. If u need someone to talk to you can always PM me I'd be glad to help you break free of your indoctrination.

Again, no idea what you're talking about:) Keep posting about it though.

[jcr4990]

Again, no idea what you're talking about:) Keep posting about it though.

Let's compare ST keys and Primals and see if FA or RT has more.

Yea you're totally right it looks "about even"

https://media.giphy.com/media/Fjr6v88OPk7U4/giphy.gif

[Legday]

Haha ....be more pathetic posting about how cool you think Rampage are.

[Tasslehofp99]

Let's compare ST keys and Primals and see if FA or RT has more.

Yea you're totally right it looks "about even"

https://media.giphy.com/media/Fjr6v88OPk7U4/giphy.gif

sure, lets also compare raid logs for the first few months of velious too.

Rampage started with over 100 players regularly, and this went on for months. Obviously this gave them an edge over all other guilds who worked on their own. This advantage quicky forced smaller guilds to form alliances to stand a chance. Your jealousy and anger over BDA being a bottom tier guild on the server is clouding your judgement and making you delusional.

Now what you're seeing happen is the leadership/core of IB who got geared out is starting to get tired of continually putting in max effort to gear out a bunch of guildhopping/coattail riding apps/newer members.

This is really why rampage is losing lately, it has less to do with the F/A alliance than it does with them just becoming burnt out. You could see it in their numbers this week, I assume their real hardcore raiders only show up for targets in ST and the highest value NTOV targets.

But since you're an expert on the raiding scene, considering you never take part, I'll just let you keep spamming RNF with delusional shit posts filled with jealous rage.

[Pheer]

sure, lets also compare raid logs for the first few months of velious too.

Rampage started with over 100 players regularly, and this went on for months. Obviously this gave them an edge over all other guilds who worked on their own. This advantage quicky forced smaller guilds to form alliances to stand a chance. Your jealousy and anger over BDA being a bottom tier guild on the server is clouding your judgement and making you delusional.

Now what you're seeing happen is the leadership/core of IB who got geared out is starting to get tired of continually putting in max effort to gear out a bunch of guildhopping/coattail riding apps/newer members.

This is really why rampage is losing lately, it has less to do with the F/A alliance than it does with them just becoming burnt out. You could see it in their numbers this week, I assume their real hardcore raiders only show up for targets in ST and the highest value NTOV targets.

But since you're an expert on the raiding scene, considering you never take part, I'll just let you keep spamming RNF with delusional shit posts filled with jealous rage.

gr8 b8 m8

"I'll just post a bunch of bullshit that I dont even believe myself, that'll get them rustled"

[JurisDictum]

gr8 b8 m8

"I'll just post a bunch of bullshit that I dont even believe myself, that'll get them rustled"

It's not trolling if you actually believe it, so the statement is redundant. "Trolling" has now become the ultimate online excuse for saying something stupid and getting called on it.

[t3kn34k]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/669/774/fe5.png

[ArumTP]

https://media.giphy.com/media/Fjr6v88OPk7U4/giphy.gif

Krysten Ritter is my emma stone

[jcr4990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk5Qk8eV7bg&feature=youtu.be

Pretty close to even I'd say

[khanable]

Krysten Ritter is my emma stone

such bangs

much babe

[captnamazing]

anyone who cares this much about elf sim raiding must be retarded. Our God works in Amazing ways.

[khysanth]

aw yes the rnf subforum for a niche emulation server, where i come to discuss the semantics of trolling

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

http://i.imgur.com/JATfzlk.png

Ah yes, illusions. Let me tell you about illusions.

[toosweet]

This thread sounds more like a it's a Rampage dick lickers vs Forsaken dick lickers and the clear winners so far are the rampage dick lickers thanks to the amazing effort and expertise trollololol alone has shown at working the meat.
Step it up Forsaken fanboys.

[Cecily]

This thread sounds more like a it's a Rampage dick lickers vs Forsaken dick lickers and the clear winners so far are the rampage dick lickers thanks to the amazing effort and expertise trollololol alone has shown at working the meat.
Step it up Forsaken fanboys.

[Vianna]

Zlandicar killed night 1 in full Kunark gear, F, A or any combo of the 2 has not killed this mob.

110 people in full kunark gear>40 in Velious gear.

[Nommis]

110 people in full kunark gear>40 in Velious gear.
60 People in Velious gear > 140 People in Velious Gear

http://i.imgur.com/qikXN8q.gif

[Bruno]

Vianna is by far the maddest person on these forums and most active delusional forsaken poster. Good work bud ty for the entertainment. Someone has to make the rest of the community feel better about their lives it might as well be you.

[JurisDictum]

This thread sounds more like a it's a Rampage dick lickers vs Forsaken dick lickers and the clear winners so far are the rampage dick lickers thanks to the amazing effort and expertise trollololol alone has shown at working the meat.
Step it up Forsaken fanboys.

I guess I would rather lick my dick clumsily, rather than someone else's dick really well.

[Swish]

anyone who cares this much about elf sim raiding must be retarded. Our God works in Amazing ways.

no loot council pixels for you then

[Monty405]

Man loot council.

I'd rather the <Clue> method and just /random everything than rely on some neckbeard ive never met making a "judgement call" on who gets shit.

[captnamazing]

Bda loot council decisions primarily based off of RNF batphone responses

[Kluwen1]

60 People in Velious gear > 140 People in Velious Gear

http://i.imgur.com/qikXN8q.gif

60-80 people in the top end BIS velious gear > 140 people in mid level velious/kunark gear.

[Fountree]

60-80 people in the top end BIS velious gear > 140 people in mid level velious/kunark gear.

This statement is wrong on so many levels. You actually believe that? Or are you trolling?

140 people will always > 60 people.

I stopped gearing certain chars of mine in Kunark and they still were able to hard cap most resists without a bard using potions and getting necessary buffs. With a bard its not difficult at all.

The extra hard stats, mana and HP from end game velious loot doesnt really matter much either when soulfires, reapers, wort pots are in the game. Maybe for tanks? If you have 140 people I'm assuming that you have more clerics. 2 clerics will always beat one. There aren't clerics on here with 6000 mana.

I think the problem that a large raid force might run into is keeping everyone's consumables charged and organizing groups efficiently. But if we're talking level 60s 140 players > 60.

[Kluwen1]

This statement is wrong on so many levels. You actually believe that? Or are you trolling?

140 people will always > 60 people.

I stopped gearing certain chars of mine in Kunark and they still were able to hard cap most resists without a bard using potions and getting necessary buffs. With a bard its not difficult at all.

The extra hard stats, mana and HP from end game velious loot doesnt really matter much either when soulfires, reapers, wort pots are in the game. Maybe for tanks? If you have 140 people I'm assuming that you have more clerics. 2 clerics will always beat one. There aren't clerics on here with 6000 mana.

I think the problem that a large raid force might run into is keeping everyone's consumables charged and organizing groups efficiently. But if we're talking level 60s 140 players > 60.

Partial troll partial truth. Winning Sonta isn't about zerg numbers. I'd take 60-80 top geared toons over 120-140 mid lvl velious/kunark any day of the week. Again I'm being specific to Sonta fight. Certainly there is content where you could argue the other way.

[jcr4990]

Partial troll partial truth. Winning Sonta isn't about zerg numbers. I'd take 60-80 top geared toons over 120-140 mid lvl velious/kunark any day of the week. Again I'm being specific to Sonta fight. Certainly there is content where you could argue the other way.

You are literally out of your mind. The ONLY argument you could really make is needing well geared tanks. Everything else simply throwing numbers at it is a much bigger compensation. Idk about you but I'd take 14 kunark geared clerics over 7 BiS Vel geared clerics every single time. Same with 14 kun rogs vs 7 vel rogs.

It's not even close to a contest

[captnamazing]

I'm requesting a gif from swish mocking all the bluebies who are crying about the raid scene here

[Kluwen1]

You are literally out of your mind. The ONLY argument you could really make is needing well geared tanks. Everything else simply throwing numbers at it is a much bigger compensation. Idk about you but I'd take 14 kunark geared clerics over 7 BiS Vel geared clerics every single time. Same with 14 kun rogs vs 7 vel rogs.

It's not even close to a contest

Again I was being more specific to Sonta. The more bodies you have in the fight is not necessarily better. More bodies means more potential for low health aggro which ultimately will wipe your raid, which is why I'd take 60ish really well geared velious toons in that fight with more HP and Resists.

[MavstabYoudead]

This statement is wrong on so many levels. You actually believe that? Or are you trolling?

140 people will always > 60 people.

I stopped gearing certain chars of mine in Kunark and they still were able to hard cap most resists without a bard using potions and getting necessary buffs. With a bard its not difficult at all.

The extra hard stats, mana and HP from end game velious loot doesnt really matter much either when soulfires, reapers, wort pots are in the game. Maybe for tanks? If you have 140 people I'm assuming that you have more clerics. 2 clerics will always beat one. There aren't clerics on here with 6000 mana.

I think the problem that a large raid force might run into is keeping everyone's consumables charged and organizing groups efficiently. But if we're talking level 60s 140 players > 60.

disagree completely. There are certain mobs that throwing numbers at just isn't the solution. 2 clerics will not always beat one if both clerics are feared an entire raid just as an example to poke holes in your theory.

on a mob like sontalak if you have a bunch of people with resists eating ae that aren't stacked properly and causing Ping-Pong/losing dps etc you most likely are going to wipe.

[captnamazing]

just like a raid mob, sometimes it's better to throw 60 well geared words at a mob than 140 poorly formed thoughts

[Fountree]

disagree completely. There are certain mobs that throwing numbers at just isn't the solution. 2 clerics will not always beat one if both clerics are feared an entire raid just as an example to poke holes in your theory.

on a mob like sontalak if you have a bunch of people with resists eating ae that aren't stacked properly and causing Ping-Pong/losing dps etc you most likely are going to wipe.

You seem to have difficulty with reading comprehension, I mentioned resists in my post and how easy it is to max them, even in Kunark gear. My post a response to Kluwen's comparing velious gear vs. Kunark gear. :D

[Kluwen1]

You seem to have difficulty with reading comprehension, I mentioned resists in my post and how easy it is to max them, even in Kunark gear. My post a response to Kluwen's comparing velious gear vs. Kunark gear. :D

Resists on Sont, Klandi, Zlandi don't seem to matter all that much. Obviously you still want max resists but during those fights you're still going to get AE'ed and feared probably 75% of the time, at least I do, maybe I'm just unlucky though lol.

[Fountree]

Resists on Sont, Klandi, Zlandi don't seem to matter all that much. Obviously you still want max resists but during those fights you're still going to get AE'ed and feared probably 75% of the time, at least I do, maybe I'm just unlucky though lol.

When I killed Sont on beta and a couple of times with rampage after release the deciding factor was always Wort pots. Until everyone started using them and were required to have 4-5 on them at all times we consistently wiped to Sontalak.

I know he's been changed and beefed up so I'm not really sure on the tactics of the fight now are similar. I'd assume they are though. If you can't self heal yourself on sont you're most likely going to die from the AE.

[MavstabYoudead]

You seem to have difficulty with reading comprehension, I mentioned resists in my post and how easy it is to max them, even in Kunark gear. My post a response to Kluwen's comparing velious gear vs. Kunark gear. :D

Re-read your own post. 140 ppl is not always > 60 people unless you Starr adding in all your stipulations. If you want to make the argument that the two raid forces have similar resists and strategy then I would agree in theory.

[Filthy_Pagan]

u wanna fite about it m8?

[jcr4990]

I eat dragon fears easily more than 50% of the time at 255 MR. So I'm not sure how much difference resists are actually going to make tbh. Sounds to me like excuses from FA on why they wipe with 150 when Rampage can do it with 1/3 that. But what do I know? I'm just a BDA scum that doesn't know anything about the incredibly complex and secret world of P99 Raiding.

[jcr4990]

I'm just a BDA scum that doesn't know anything about the incredibly complex and secret world of P99 Raiding.

https://ihavetoomuchaddtowriteanovel.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/yes-it-was-sarcasm.jpg

[Kluwen1]

But what do I know? I'm just a BDA scum that doesn't know anything about the incredibly complex and secret world of P99 Raiding.


First step is admitting it, now were getting somewhere!

[Spyder73]

I eat dragon dicks

[Filthy_Pagan]

I eat dragon fears easily more than 50% of the time at 255 MR. So I'm not sure how much difference resists are actually going to make tbh. Sounds to me like excuses from FA on why they wipe with 150 when Rampage can do it with 1/3 that. But what do I know? I'm just a BDA scum that doesn't know anything about the incredibly complex and secret world of P99 Raiding.

https://ihavetoomuchaddtowriteanovel.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/yes-it-was-sarcasm.jpg

I feel like you're trying to convince yourself that your previous statement was sarcasm

[jcr4990]

You obviously don't know anything about the current raid scene as you keep pulling numbers out of your ass

Slight exaggeration =/= pulling numbers out of ass. Nice try tho Nixxar. What was the confirmed number that FAT wiped to Sont with? Was in the 120-130 neighborhood I believe. Still literally 2x what Rampage regularly kills him with.

Inb4 bullshit FA excuses about how its easier with less people to excuse how bad they are

[jcr4990]

Lol 2x? Even more proof that you have no clue what you're talking about. But sure keep opening your mouth like what you have to say matters. Every time you mention the FA alliance your numbers jump another 10 raiders. Do you realize this last week alone that Taken actually brought more raiders to some targets than rampage did? Bringing their numbers in TOV up close to 100 for targets like dagarn and eashen? Lol, you call FA a Zerg force but completely ignore the fact that Tramp now brings more than FA to every spawn...

Before the TRamp thing happened Ramp regularly killed Sont with ~60. I can't speak to what's going on in the past 2 weeks cause I've been out of town and not on the game much. There's video evidence thats been posted here many times of FAT getting absolutely roflstomped by Sont at like 80% with ~120 people. I know math is difficult for u but 60 + 60 = 120. If TRamp is killing it with zerg forces now then w/e. I don't support them doing it either but they've proven many many times that they're more than capable of doing it by themselves. Rampage (unlike Forsaken or Asgard) has killed almost every (maybe every?) raid mob in the game by themselves multiple times. I still don't support multi guild zergs but at least they can say they're capable of doing shit alone.

[isiah]

I can confirm Sontalak was zerged down by Rampage with 64 people yesterday.

[ArumTP]

Slight exaggeration =/= pulling numbers out of ass. Nice try tho Nixxar. What was the confirmed number that FAT wiped to Sont with? Was in the 120-130 neighborhood I believe. Still literally 2x what Rampage regularly kills him with.

Inb4 bullshit FA excuses about how its easier with less people to excuse how bad they are

Rampage regularly kills sont, yes. This was maybe the 1st time FAT ever went and engaged it. Maybe was 2nd time FA engaged it. There is a bit of a learning curve to be mastered here. I wouldn't doubt rampage had just as ugly messes as well when they were first learning it, but they had the advantage of time to learn it without someone waiting to swoop down and waiting to petitonquest them.

With that particular sont, rampage also wiped, despite what their PR team leads you to belive. Down to 9 people, they lost agro, and had to re-establish FTE with all their flopped monks. Sont was fleeing when he died to those 9 people. It seems a bit dubious that he flees and didn't regen a lot when he wasn't agro'ed

[ManuelThePopStar]

Keep in mind class composition here.

<Rampage> sadly uses about 16 Rogues and monks and 12+ clerics for every mob they kill. Not to mention 8 or 10 Warriors and Wizzies as well.

[jcr4990]

They actually had closer to 90 than 60 when FAT wiped with 120 after songs lack received his buff. Here is a fun question though, when has BDA ever even pulled a ST key dragon? Kinda childish talking and criticizing people for attempting things your guild is too scared to even contemplate. Seems to me that swish and trollolfgtlol are a lot more alike then they care to admit. Both keep talking about things they have no actual idea about.

Have any more ignorant allegations you would like to make? Preferably ones that can be easily proven but you lack any type of evidence to prove them..

Are u one of those douchebags that gets mad when people root for their favorite football teams or dislike certain teams and act like they shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion or like they can't possibly know anything unless they also play in the NFL? Those people are such shitheads man. Don't be one of them.

I've talked about all of this before. BDA doesn't zerg and most members have jobs and RL families. The content Rampage and FA goes after is an absolute shitshow lately. We're perfectly capable of killing most/all of it if we have our primetime crew but not really willing to resort to the level of neckbeardery required to compete on a lot of those targets atm. CoTH ducking while staring at a wall for 16 hours isn't our idea of a good time. I get a good laugh out of watching u guys do it though. Pixel lust is no joke man.

[ArumTP]

L families. The content Rampage and FA goes after is an absolute shitshow lately. We're perfectly capable of killing most/all of it if we have our primetime crew but not really willing to resort to the level of neckbeardery required to compete on a lot of those targets atm. CoTH ducking while staring at a wall for 16 hours isn't our idea of a good time. I get a good laugh out of watching u guys do it though. Pixel lust is no joke man.

It is fair that you can say that content that RT and FA is a shit show, and would rather not engage in what is required to get that loot but...

You did try and go for 2 dains and a telk, and lost.

You could also say that you're perfectly capable of killing most/all of it if we have our primetime crew but...

You haven't done any of northwing outside ikitar and launch day eshan? and uncontested dain due to raid suspensions and uncontested dain/tormax on a earthquake.

Either be a full on raid guild or a full on casual guild, you do poor representation of trying to be both.

[jcr4990]

Let's fix this a little, you assume you are capable of killing it yet nothing BDA has done lately would enforce that ignorant opinion. You are never there so how do you know what kind of shit show anything is? There were allegations of coth ducking for one encounter 2 weeks ago, thanks for reinforcing the fact that you don't know what you're talking about. Who have you watched do anything? You mean when BDA attempted the Dain? Your guild failed, wiped and lost, well done and that sure proves that BDA is ready for top end velious content.

A sports fan is more than allowed to talk about their team, however BDA is not a relevant raiding guild and you are obviously not a fan of the raid scene so all you do is talk out of your ass.

Must be nice to make all these claims of BDA being relevant when the only example of Killing KT they have is opening day with 100+ yet somehow you critique other guilds while ignoring the fact that your only relevant velious kills were Zerg kills. All you do is talk, you haven't provided any proof to support your allegations. FA desynced BDA on purpose, post the logs please, FA brings 120 people to every target, post the logs please.

BDA killed all kinds of shit on beta when neckbeard lvls over 9000 weren't required to contest. They've also killed Dain solo at least 2 times that I know of. Tormax twice I think? Opening day with a zerg yes cause everyone had a zerg opening day. Then again later with like 60 something? More than we can say for your buddies in Asgard. We've killed Doze Iki Telk Gozz. Probably more shit that I'm forgetting or wasn't around for. None of this matters though cause no matter what I say you'll just repeat your anti BDA rhetoric cause u are Nixxar and that's what u do.

Just because a full BDA raid force isn't there doesn't mean we don't have people there watching what goes down. I've hung out in Kael and ToV on several occasions and just watched the shitshow unfold. I also have eyes/ears all over the endgame raid scene. Mostly in Ramp but also one in FA believe it or not. But keep on telling me I don't know anything. I don't play in the NFL so I have no idea about anything that goes on in the games right? :(

[icedwards]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Server_Firsts

Taken killed KT opening day

[Kodim]

4 Dagarns that only Tramp will be going after. Now's the chance for other guilds to kill it!

You only need 1 coth mage parked above the spawn, wizard giving out TL, and a puller.

[jcr4990]

Come back when you can actually respond with the truth. Unconctested fights and killing shit on beta is your proof the BDA could compete if they wanted to? Lmao
You obviously don't have eyes and ear all over since nothing you claim is near the truth. The fact that you lost iki telk and gozz as examples of end game velious just proves how uneducated on the current raid scene you really are. Go back to league kid, p99 is some how too difficult for you.

Reading comprehension fail again. I said BDA could KILL most of the targets FA kills. Not that we could compete. We just don't have the people willing/able to neckbeard as hard as u guys do so we can't/won't compete cause nobody wants to coth duck for 16 hours.

I can't believe this guy is telling me I'M uneducated :/

[jcr4990]

"Could" however you have no actual proof that it's the case. So you are yet again talking out of your ass.

"BDA could kill everything if we wanted to, we just don't want to" lmao is that the gist of it? Uncontested kills, kills where your guild trains the zone multiple times, and attempts where you fail then blame others doesn't prove that BDA can actually successfully kill anything.

Shit look at your guild thread, perhaps if you hadn't ruined the rotation you wouldn't still need to focus on kunark targets 5 months after velious landed.

There are VERY FEW actual hard fights in EQ. I think u and I both know any halfway decent guild with ~60 people can kil all but 2-3 of the hardest targets in the game. But whatever u say man. I've grown tired of arguing with you. I've got Christmas shit to do. Merry Christmas fucker.

[Filthy_Pagan]

You guys are gonna get your neckbeards tangled up and the only thing you'll be able to do at that point is kiss.

[ManuelThePopStar]

BDA killed all kinds of shit on beta when neckbeard lvls over 9000 weren't required to contest. They've also killed Dain solo at least 2 times that I know of. Tormax twice I think? Opening day with a zerg yes cause everyone had a zerg opening day. Then again later with like 60 something? More than we can say for your buddies in Asgard. We've killed Doze Iki Telk Gozz. Probably more shit that I'm forgetting or wasn't around for. None of this matters though cause no matter what I say you'll just repeat your anti BDA rhetoric cause u are Nixxar and that's what u do.

Just because a full BDA raid force isn't there doesn't mean we don't have people there watching what goes down. I've hung out in Kael and ToV on several occasions and just watched the shitshow unfold. I also have eyes/ears all over the endgame raid scene. Mostly in Ramp but also one in FA believe it or not. But keep on telling me I don't know anything. I don't play in the NFL so I have no idea about anything that goes on in the games right? :(

Yes. And both our first live Dain and Tmax kills were with 50 ppl and were flawless kills.

[ManuelThePopStar]

Oh and with "normal" class distribution. All the guilds shammis chanters SKS pallies and rangers weren't forced to log to their level 60 rogue and cleric alts, such as these "other guilds" do.

[nyclin]

Oh and with "normal" class distribution. All the guilds shammis chanters SKS pallies and rangers weren't forced to log to their level 60 rogue and cleric alts, such as these "other guilds" do.

if you have the option for a better raid comp, why not take it?

you aren't gonna earn any brownie points for running a shitty raid comp, so why do it?