Square (as expected) ruins FFVII

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A3sBZ5Nr4hc

Not surprised, still fuming though. Not a single redeeming feature or resemblance to the source material.

Worst day for gaming in a year of bad days for gaming.

[SamwiseRed]

ff7 was good but it wasnt that good. final fantasy 3 was the best final fantasy. long live snes, long live the returners, long live kefka.

[Pokesan]

ff7 was good but it wasnt that good. final fantasy 3 was the best final fantasy. long live snes, long live the returners, long live kefka.

*in kagatob voice* fucking normie doesn't even know final fantasy 3 in the us is actually #6 in the series. do you even japan you chad?

IM KAGATOB AND IM MAD ABOUT VIDEO GAMES FOR THE TEN MILLIONTH TIME!

[Pokesan]

I think the new ff7 looks pretty good imo

[Lune]

Not only does that appear to be a stylistic and thematic abortion, I'm doubtful the game could be anywhere as long as the original with graphics like that. Wouldn't be surprised if the game barely makes it out of Midgar.

Square, and the Japanese as a whole it seems, are just so fucking bad at marketing to North America and building hype (In addition to being bad at making games in the last decade). The whole trailer just focuses on lame Midgar combat when that was never what made FF VII special. They didn't even try to milk people for their feels and nostalgia (https://youtu.be/a3LkKviuGKU?t=10s) by offering a glimpse of the greater FF VII world/storyline/atmosphere that brings back so many good memories for people. The atmosphere is just so bad and off and doesn't even come close to capturing the spirit of the game.

Also Barrett is apparently voiced by Glenn Howerton as Roger Murtaugh. (https://youtu.be/CunBsCwdlqk)

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

A fool and their money...

Whatever, money saved. This was the only reason I would of considered buying a console.

Calling it now, paid DLC for gold saucer games, special materia (summons), colored chocobos, skins for the Highwind/Submarine and probably Vincent/Yuffie.

[Pokesan]

A fool and their money...

Whatever, money saved. This was the only reason I would of considered buying a console.

Calling it now, paid DLC for gold saucer games, special materia (summons), colored chocobos, skins for the Highwind/Submarine and probably Vincent/Yuffie.

dude, that sounds sweet. could you hop on the twitter and send square those ideas?

[Lune]

Calling it now, paid DLC for gold saucer games, special materia (summons), colored chocobos, skins for the Highwind/Submarine and probably Vincent/Yuffie.

http://i.imgur.com/346RoDa.gif

ff7 was good but it wasnt that good. final fantasy 3 was the best final fantasy. long live snes, long live the returners, long live kefka.

9 > 7 > 6/3

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

9 > 7 > 6/3

Not saying 9 was bad but something about only being to hit 9999x2 max really pissed me off and I never forgave the game for it.

[James_Joyce]

9 and 6 were the best because you could map the controllers to different characters and role play with a friend and read the dialogue. You'd have to be autistic to play any of the Playstation FFs solo.

If this spell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye0dJhSH_LU) isn't redone with PS4 graphics I'm still gonna find a way to be pissed tho.

[iruinedyourday]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A3sBZ5Nr4hc

Not surprised, still fuming though. Not a single redeeming feature or resemblance to the source material.

Worst day for gaming in a year of bad days for gaming.

This kids game that ruined the Final Fantasy saga with 17 minute long unskippable cut scenes... You cannot ruin what began ruined.

Sorry pal but ff7 aint special.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Your dislike of FFVII only solidifies my love for it, anchoring it's place in the top 3 games of all time.

[James_Joyce]

Your dislike of FFVII only solidifies my love for it, anchoring it's place in the top 3 games of all time.

poe's law in full effect here

I could not begin to guess whether you are trolling or not

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

poe's law in full effect here

I could not begin to guess whether you are trolling or not

That FFVII is in my top 3? I'm serious.

[James_Joyce]

FFVII isn't even in the top 3 spreadsheet simulator weeaboo games.

If you show me your list I'll show you mine.

[iruinedyourday]

Your dislike of FFVII only solidifies my love for it, anchoring it's place in the top 3 games of all time.

thats fine it wouldnt be you if you didnt like the inferior versions of everything.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

FFVII isn't even in the top 3 spreadsheet simulator weeaboo games.

If you show me your list I'll show you mine.

I don't really play many weeaboo games.

Favorite over all is probably Morrowind?

[SamwiseRed]

dark souls, earth bound, and ff3 are up there. there are some others i might replace these with given more time to think about it like diablo 2 for instance.

ff7 definitely not in my top 10. suikoden was a better rpg than ff7.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Diablo > Diablo 2

[iruinedyourday]

dark souls, earth bound, and ff3 are up there. there are some others i might replace these with given more time to think about it like diablo 2 for instance.

ff7 definitely not in my top 10. suikoden was a better rpg than ff7.

Im actually happy about this remake, because I will give this one another go... it was a bad game and I stopped caring about it halfway through back when it originally came out.

I am sure I will feel the same after about 10 minuets of this new one, but hey, another shot to try this version of the game that some fools love is fine by me.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Brood war was great too.

The 90s was easily the best era for video gaming.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Im actually happy about this remake, because I will give this one another go... it was a bad game and I stopped caring about it halfway through back when it originally came out.

I am sure I will feel the same after about 10 minuets of this new one, but hey, another shot to try this version of the game that some fools love is fine by me.

THEY'RE SPEAKING ITALIAN!

[Lune]

dark souls, earth bound, and ff3 are up there. there are some others i might replace these with given more time to think about it like diablo 2 for instance.

ff7 definitely not in my top 10. suikoden was a better rpg than ff7.

I agree, Suikoden was absolutely a better RPG in many ways.

I think the people who like FF7 like it because of the story and atmosphere first, and the mechanics second. It had so many memorable characters, concepts, and events... at least for people who weren't ADD kids like IRYD and actually read the dialogue and sat still for the cutscenes.

The 90s was easily the best era for video gaming.

Doesn't hurt that we were kids so all of it probably has a fuzzy tint.

Honestly, as much as I loved Morrowind (It was the most immersive TES, actually having to read clues and figure things out, more freedom), Skyrim was my favorite installment. It was just too rich and polished compared to clunky Morrowind.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Morrowind was indeed clunky as all hell, but even replaying it after finishing Skyrim, after the first hour I didn't even notice how dated the graphics were anymore. Skyrim is just so stifling by comparison and I don't have the attention span to go digging for the 30 something mods required to bring back all of the great mechanics that were removed like custom spells and throwing weapons, jump/lev, mark/recall, the list goes on.

[James_Joyce]

I don't really play many weeaboo games.

Favorite over all is probably Morrowind?

Well I thought we were doing quality rankings, not favorites rankings! And there's just no way I can relate to a guy who would rate a WRPG, a Bethesda WRPG, his favorite game of all time, so I won't even bother trying to grief. Apples and oranges.

Kaga and Samwise, play Seiken Densetsu 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX6W_6pqUDA) on coop with ur lover (kek) some time. It's easily the best JRPG ever made except maybe Chrono Trigger.

My favorites just so happen to also be the three objectively most superior games of all time:

3. SD3
2. SotN
1. Counterstrike

I don't think it's really fair to rank competitive games alongside single player though. Obviously CS lacks content and art direction and music -- it's only the best game of all time because it's been the standard measuring stick for skill at videogames for decades, and still gets my hands to shake on LAN after that amount of time. I'd say Brood War is a decent choice as well for the same reason, although it's made of rather unexceptional game mechanics compared to superior RTS games that never hit a critical mass of players, like Total Annihilation and Company of Heroes.

SotN is by far the best game ever made in terms of the quality of art direction, music, content, and single-player combat immersiveness. But even that gets old after a recent playthrough, and the difficulty curve needs to be stronger, and it's missing a couch coop mode that would be very easy to implement.

Honorable mention for Terraria, the best game of the last 10 years by leaps and bounds.

[Madbad]

EARTHBOUND OR GTFO

[George_Costanza]

I never finished Earthbound 'cause it's stupidly archaic that I have to choose from a menu that includes "talk" when I am standing totally alone just trying to pick an item up off a countertop.

Does that make u mad?

[Madbad]

yes

also if you press the L button it skips that menu :P

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Streets of Rage (Bare Knuckle) 2
TMNT 4 Turtles in Time

If you want multilayer.
Don't ruin a perfect side scrolling RPG with multi-player.

Stop fixing what ain't broke.

[Madbad]

Turtles in Time was stupidly good

[Rec]

ff7 remake was the one final fantasy they were not allowed to turn into action kid garbage

[James_Joyce]

Streets of Rage (Bare Knuckle) 2
TMNT 4 Turtles in Time

If you want multilayer.
Don't ruin a perfect side scrolling RPG with multi-player.

Stop fixing what ain't broke.

these are both pretty dank picks but a multiplayer option is always better than none, case in point your dank picks

[iruinedyourday]

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/phantasystar/images/1/1b/Psii_title.png/revision/latest?cb=20110915074806

[Madbad]

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/phantasystar/images/1/1b/Psii_title.png/revision/latest?cb=20110915074806

The only Sega RPG I was able to get into was Shining Force.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Don't you dare taint Algo by liking those games.

[SamwiseRed]

Brood war was great too.

The 90s was easily the best era for video gaming.

agree

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

The only Sega RPG I was able to get into was Shining Force.

Shining in the Darkness and Landstalker were solid as well. Phantasy Stars 1, 2 and 4 took the cake though.

[James_Joyce]

best sega game = herzog zwei

[iruinedyourday]

http://img1.game-oldies.com/sites/default/files/packshots/sony-playstation/vandal-hearts-usa.jpg

[SamwiseRed]

The only Sega RPG I was able to get into was Shining Force.

lol me too

shining force was good. i think i played 1 and 2.

i also played the shit out of dune: battle for arakis on the sega.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

best sega game = Sonic 2

Agreed

[iruinedyourday]

another goodie from sega days

http://img1.game-oldies.com/sites/default/files/packshots/sega-genesis/warsong-usa.png

yea SF was good too, but I never liekd that maze first person RPG back then i was aJRPG all the way.

Phantasy Start 1 was that style and I didnt finnish it till i was a teenager on a dusted off master system and I grew to really respect it, but yea, my console RPG is reserved for the JRPG ff style dungeons

[iruinedyourday]

Side note, if you beat this game, you were a legend.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Dragon_Warrior.jpg

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Side note, if you beat this game, you were a legend.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Dragon_Warrior.jpg

That what the special edition of BattleToads looks like eh?

[iruinedyourday]

My favorite american rpg? I dk Id have to think about it, i havent really.. EQ doesnt count eh?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/Ultima_Underworld_cover.png

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

EQ was also 90s.

[iruinedyourday]

yea, most of the ones I linked were more 80s tho.. I was just enjoying posting about some old faves.

I didnt even play underworld until well after I was done with EQ... I actually started playing it, becuse i was missing the EQ feels, b4 I found out about p99 that is.

[Pokesan]

all baldurs gate games

[Lojik]

Could never really get into rpgs...nor do I like japanimation so all ff is out for me

[Lune]

Honorable mention for Terraria, the best game of the last 10 years by leaps and bounds.

2ndeded

[Bardalicious]

ff7 was good but it wasnt that good. final fantasy 3 was the best final fantasy. long live snes, long live the returners, long live kefka.

Naw naw NAW. Original FF Tactics was best FF.

[Laugher]

Original FF Tactics was best FF.

[Psionide]

I like FF 3 then 2 then 7 then 10.

As far as best RPGs go without them.

Chrono Trigger
Suikoden 2 (I liked it better than 1)
Earthbound
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG
Seiken Densetsu 3

[James_Joyce]

I like FF 3 then 2 then 7 then 10.

As far as best RPGs go without them.

Chrono Trigger
Suikoden 2 (I liked it better than 1)
Earthbound
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG
Seiken Densetsu 3

possibly the best post in board history except that now you have 421 posts instead of just 420. If this was your 420th post you would have been crowned like King Arthur.

[Fasttimes]

add lufia 2, such an underrated snes game along with secret of evermore.

[katrik]

Not gonna lie, I loved some of the new features.. and the game is gorgeous. But.. at the same time.. the combat system is different. I don't know what it's called, the 'real action' battle system that I tried on one of the new FF's.. I absolutely hated it. If this is what they're using opposed to turn based I will probably hate it and won't buy it.

[Psionide]

possibly the best post in board history except that now you have 421 posts instead of just 420. If this was your 420th post you would have been crowned like King Arthur.

Glad to see some others appreciating the classics. Also, yes Rise of the Sinistrals sp? was a pretty solid game. Can we get some devs to make some more SNES rpgs?

Another honorable mention that might be a little more unknown is Illusion of Gaia. Was a bit different but I enjoyed it.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Not gonna lie, I loved some of the new features.. and the game is gorgeous. But.. at the same time.. the combat system is different. I don't know what it's called, the 'real action' battle system that I tried on one of the new FF's.. I absolutely hated it. If this is what they're using opposed to turn based I will probably hate it and won't buy it.

Like I said.

Tales of: Final Fantasy VII

[iruinedyourday]

I like FF 3 then 2 then 7 then 10.

As far as best RPGs go without them.

Chrono Trigger
Suikoden 2 (I liked it better than 1)
Earthbound
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG
Seiken Densetsu 3

great list, I wasnt into secret of mana, but it is pretty good.

Super mario RPG has fantastic writing, probably the best the genera has to offer.. so many amazing jokes that are tong & cheek zings against Jrpgs in general.. I was pretty wowed by some of them.. great comedy! You just wouldnt really know it, since its hidden inside super Mario RPG haha


2. SotN

SotN is by far the best game ever made in terms of the quality of art direction, music, content, and single-player combat immersiveness. But even that gets old after a recent playthrough, and the difficulty curve needs to be stronger, and it's missing a couch coop mode that would be very easy to implement.

Honorable mention for Terraria, the best game of the last 10 years by leaps and bounds.

Gotta represent Symphony of the night.. that game was incredible. If you haven't played it, find an emulator, and play it immediately.

"What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets."

as far as terraria goes, I did play this one and felt it had too much of something in it, that I cant remember, something that is like.. it reminded me too much of something in minecraft that I cant remember.. but I do respect it as a game even though I cant really get into it.. that and its pretty incredible and deep so it gets a nod for that.

I wonder what I would say is in the top 5 games from the last 10 years...

I think Red Dead Redemption is quite possibly one of the best console games ever made. But Im gonna think harder on it.

Also Snes Zelda is fucking amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing also so is Minish Cap.

[jarshale]

I think it's the same (or similar) as 15's battle system. Which is... ok I guess. It works. As much as I would love an old school system of 2 lines of characters staring at each other in slow paced turn by turn combat, that old tech won't fly in a modern AAA game.

[Madbad]

"What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets."

[iruinedyourday]

I think it's the same (or similar) as 15's battle system. Which is... ok I guess. It works. As much as I would love an old school system of 2 lines of characters staring at each other in slow paced turn by turn combat, that old tech won't fly in a modern AAA game.

I can get down with that tho looks kinda fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tm6SjYzQLs

tbh i have done that jrpg system so many times i feel my brain melting when I try to play a game that does it heh

[Swish]

Didn't read the whole thread but in essence the fans expect more ff7 and Square hasn't got the ability or creativity on their staff to do it.

Bad storylines and characters are now guaranteed, and the gameplay / battle systems are looking tired.

FF died at 10 for me, after a terrible 9 and a shaky 8.

[SamwiseRed]

Didn't read the whole thread but in essence the fans expect more ff7 and Square hasn't got the ability or creativity on their staff to do it.

Bad storylines and characters are now guaranteed, and the gameplay / battle systems are looking tired.

FF died at 10 for me, after a terrible 9 and a shaky 8.

i agree with this except after giving 8 another go a year after it came out, i actually thought it was better than 7. the 2 gardens colliding was epic as hell.

[Psionide]

How did I forget A Link to the Past?

[gildor]

6/3 was my intro to RGP gaming, 7 stole my soul, 8 held on to it....this remake looks incredible, I hope I plays incredibly as well.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

i agree with this except after giving 8 another go a year after it came out, i actually thought it was better than 7. the 2 gardens colliding was epic as hell.

8 sucked. Junction/draw system was the dumbest system ever, of all time.

Gardens colliding was the only time it actually felt like a game since at that point you were done spending 30 hours drawing the magic you were never going to cast out of monsters.

[iruinedyourday]

Ff1, 2 & 3 or you just dont get it, man. Ff7+ is WoW

That rain at the begining of a link to the past = feels.

[Grubbz]

FF3(6) / 7 / 9 / 10 are the only good FF games. All the older FF games were garbage and 8 was an aberration that should of never happened. FF Tactics gets a slight nod because it was "different" for the time.

The FF7 REMAKE (its a REMAKE you dumb fucks, not a REMASTER) seems fine to me? Will i hate it? probably but ill still shell out the $500+ for the PS4/FF7 Bundle/Collectors edition.

Chrono Trigger still the #1 RPG ever made.

[Swish]

Ff1, 2 & 3 or you just dont get it, man. Ff7+ is WoW

That rain at the begining of a link to the past = feels.

If someone didnt play 7 because it disgraced the old roots they definitely missed out.

[Psionide]

FF3(6) / 7 / 9 / 10 are the only good FF games. All the older FF games were garbage and 8 was an aberration that should of never happened. FF Tactics gets a slight nod because it was "different" for the time.

The FF7 REMAKE (its a REMAKE you dumb fucks, not a REMASTER) seems fine to me? Will i hate it? probably but ill still shell out the $500+ for the PS4/FF7 Bundle/Collectors edition.

Chrono Trigger still the #1 RPG ever made.

Not a big fan of the first final fantasy but final fantasy 2 was amazing.

[Psionide]

I wouldn't say FF tactics was exactly "new" considering there were games like Vandal Hearts and Ogre Tactics (Ogre Battle franchise) and I believe X-Com was also before but FF Tactics certainly was the cream of the crop for turn based games at the time.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Will i hate it? probably but ill still shell out the $500+ for the PS4/FF7 Bundle/Collectors edition.

This right here is why the gaming industry has been allowed to become pure garbage and why it'll never improve.

[iruinedyourday]

If someone didnt play 7 because it disgraced the old roots they definitely missed out.

Yo dawg if you DID read the thrwad youd have seen that i am looking forward to the remake because it gives me a shot to see what the hype might be about.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Yo dawg if you DID read the thrwad youd have seen that i am looking forward to the remake because it gives me a shot to see what the hype might be about.

All of the wrong reasons.

[Madbad]

just play ff 7 on an emulator with proper settings

[Swish]

Yo dawg if you DID read the thrwad youd have seen that i am looking forward to the remake because it gives me a shot to see what the hype might be about.

I was talking more widely, I didnt actually think anyone was backward enough to not play FF7 when it released.

[iruinedyourday]

just play ff 7 on an emulator with proper settings

Idk like I said I cant stand the old jrpg battle systems anymore.. and ff7 was definitly bloated with shit and could stand to have some editing

14 min unskippable combat cut scenes are a joke.

All of the wrong reasons.

what does this mean ???

[Pokesan]

It means Kaga wants to start an argument about the correct reasons to like video games, in an effort to cringe you to suicide.

[Madbad]

Play it with love in your heart!

How much of your life have you wasted on archaic ass EQ? You can waste 40 hours on the best JRPG of its era.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I was talking more widely, I didnt actually think anyone was backward enough to not play FF7 when it released.
This.
It means Kaga wants to start an argument about the correct reasons to like video games, in an effort to cringe you to suicide.

That works too.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I'll just leave this here. (https://mobile.twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/673687789267902464)
Takashi Mochizuki
Takashi Mochizuki – Verified account ‏@mochi_wsj

and SquareEnix says FF7 Remake's data size so huge; the software will be split into several titles (for example, FF7-Remake 1, FF7-Remake 2)

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Such a debacle already.

[James_Joyce]

The data size is too huge. That's why we're selling it to you at $60 per 8 hour installment.

[Psionide]

So is this going to be like shitty ass Starcraft 2 where they release the first installment and then don't release the final installment until its so many years later where noone could give a shit any longer?

[Swish]

The data size is too huge. That's why we're selling it to you at $60 per 8 hour installment.

I mean what was it, 3 PS1 discs? I've lost all faith in them, what a horrible excuse. I hope sales are less than 1/3 of what they're hoping for overall as a result.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Nah, the mindless masses are still gonna eat it up.

New Fort Condor DLC: Polygon 10/10

[Psionide]

Nah, the mindless masses are still gonna eat it up.

New Fort Condor DLC: Polygon 10/10

lol preorder and unlock Knights of the Round summon!

[Madbad]

lol preorder and unlock Knights of the Round summon!

.99 cents to unlock each additional knight

1.29 to add materia slots to any weapon

59.99 to enable summon sequence skipping

[Cecily]

ff7 was good but it wasnt that good. final fantasy 3 was the best final fantasy. long live snes, long live the returners, long live kefka.

I just killed the 1st snail boss's... SHELL! Seems like a good thread to brag. Stupid thing had at least 50k Hp.

[iruinedyourday]

any of you guys play the eq version of ff? like ff11? i think i cant remember.

I liked its eq feel and sensibilities, but i couldnt hanle the controlls, they were made more for a controller and I couldnt get the tab targeting I grew to love in EQ so I never really got too far into it. but it was alright.

[Swish]

.99 cents to unlock each additional knight

1.29 to add materia slots to any weapon

59.99 to enable summon sequence skipping

might be $60 well spent

[Swish]

any of you guys play the eq version of ff? like ff11? i think i cant remember.

I liked its eq feel and sensibilities, but i couldnt hanle the controlls, they were made more for a controller and I couldnt get the tab targeting I grew to love in EQ so I never really got too far into it. but it was alright.

Some WoW pals of mine came from FF11 and said how great it was but the timesink was apparently insane. Kind of wish I'd given it a try.

Whatever number the next online installment was looked much more casual.

[Psionide]

I just killed the 1st snail boss's... SHELL! Seems like a good thread to brag. Stupid thing had at least 50k Hp.

My memory might be a little off but I think you need to use lightning magic to get him to come out of his shell?

[James_Joyce]

FF11 was in its prime when you should have been too busy ravaging plane of time.

Did you guys even play EQ?

[Pokesan]

My memory might be a little off but I think you need to use lightning magic to get him to come out of his shell?

opposite, he whacks you with lightning (Mega Volt?) if you hit the shell

though you can attack the shell at the right moment to prevent the head from retreating

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

FF11 was in its prime when you should have been too busy ravaging plane of time.

Did you guys even play EQ?

Critical hit!
It's super effective!

[Psionide]

opposite, he whacks you with lightning (Mega Volt?) if you hit the shell

though you can attack the shell at the right moment to prevent the head from retreating

Ah yeah I remember there was some trick to that fight.

[James_Joyce]

You guys should play this FF6 hardtype (http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/617/) if you like the game. Reiker linked it here a few years ago and it was even more fun than the original (there was challenge involved).

Be ready to use that fast forward button, and make sure you have a save to backup to before the dream world though in case the fairy bosses are unbeatable.

[Pokesan]

how does that compare with Brave New World?

[iruinedyourday]

hey speaking of jrpg ninokuni is getting a sequel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir958M7O6pc&feature=youtu.be

http://www.primagames.com/media/images/news/oliver_looking_brave.jpg

[iruinedyourday]

Some WoW pals of mine came from FF11 and said how great it was but the timesink was apparently insane. Kind of wish I'd given it a try.

haha makes me wonder if the server had -500% xp penalty on p99 and we were all still working on only our second 60's what itd be like.

[SamwiseRed]

Remember playing games without guides? I remember being stuck on the floating continent forever in ff3. Can't remember why though. There was also a wall boss in FF2 that I got stuck on because I was too weak or something. Had to start over. FF7 came out when you could look shit up on the internet. I know it was the first game where i actually looked up stuff like how to breed chocobos. Internet ruined games!

[Psionide]

Remember playing games without guides? I remember being stuck on the floating continent forever in ff3. Can't remember why though. There was also a wall boss in FF2 that I got stuck on because I was too weak or something. Had to start over. FF7 came out when you could look shit up on the internet. I know it was the first game where i actually looked up stuff like how to breed chocobos. Internet ruined games!

Lol that damn evil wall was tough. Took me forever to figure out how to beat him, casting virus with Rydia and then chain summoning Titan (or if u got leviathan at that point) and casting haste on all the chars.

[James_Joyce]

how does that compare with Brave New World?

BNW is new, i aint know nuffin about it.

[Gruktar]

You guys should play this FF6 hardtype (http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/617/) if you like the game. Reiker linked it here a few years ago and it was even more fun than the original (there was challenge involved).

Be ready to use that fast forward button, and make sure you have a save to backup to before the dream world though in case the fairy bosses are unbeatable.

Awesome. I had no idea anything like this existed.

After reading your post, I found this place (http://www.insanedifficulty.com/board/) which has some decent looking hardtype mods for FFT, FF7, and Chrono Trigger that I plan on trying out.

[maestrom]

I didn't read all 11 pages but...

FF7 was a really fun game and I've played them all. I would have been happy with a simple graphical update, but I don't see anything wrong with updating the gameplay as well. Square Enix did some really great things with Kingdom Hearts, and other action RPGs have proven that just because it's not turn based doesn't mean its junk.

I'm looking forward to it. I don't know that I love that it's going to be released episodically. If they do a "play through the whole game as cloud" and then "play through the whole game as Tifa" or "play the whole game as Aeris", that could work. What will really piss me off and just make me not buy the game is for the first installment of the game to have a 59.99 price tag and end with "To be continued"

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://i.imgur.com/J3IA7Kq.jpg

[maestrom]

http://i.imgur.com/J3IA7Kq.jpg

If they announce this and the world burns down, it wasn't me(it was me).

[Grubbz]

http://i.imgur.com/J3IA7Kq.jpg

Would still buy it. Poor people will always be poor.

[James_Joyce]

Would still buy it. Poor people will always be poor.

Yes. Yes, you will.

[Lune]

Would still buy it. Poor people will always be poor.

Who there big spender. This is always my favorite justification for idiots making stupid purchases.

"Blizzard just released a new $40 mount that looks like a flying turd, complete with peanuts and corns. I bought it! You didn't buy it? You must be poor"

"I just paid out the ass for a timeshare. You don't have a timeshare? lol you must be poor"

Meanwhile they probably can't even afford to send their kids to college or retire in their 50's. Poor people are notoriously bad with money.

[James_Joyce]

Who there big spender. This is always my favorite justification for idiots making stupid purchases.

"Blizzard just released a new $40 mount that looks like a flying turd, complete with peanuts and corns. I bought it! You didn't buy it? You must be poor"

"I just paid out the ass for a timeshare. You don't have a timeshare? lol you must be poor"

Meanwhile they probably can't even afford to send their kids to college or retire in their 50's. Poor people are notoriously bad with money.

My grandpa would have described such profligacy in the name of appearances as being "African-American rich".

Successful people don't spend their financial edge on products sold by bottomfeeding name-recognition-exploiting copyright Jews.

[Pokesan]

87 words instead of 2, hah what a windbag!

conspicuous consumption

[iruinedyourday]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HU1SLcHpHc

prettycool

[Psionide]

Man I love the look of that game! Of course, I mean the original. Bring back polygons and Snes sprites plz.

[Madbad]

http://i.imgur.com/J3IA7Kq.jpg

I would have paid $19.99 to save Aeris back in the 90s, lol!

[Madbad]

Sephiroth as a playable character anyone?

[Psionide]

I never liked Aeris was glad she got shanked. Cloud shouldn't have been tripping on Tifa and her tig ol bitties like that.

[Madbad]

I never liked Aeris was glad she got shanked. Cloud shouldn't have been tripping on Tifa and her tig ol bitties like that.

Shut your dirty whore's mouth!!

[James_Joyce]

i didn't feel anything when Aeris died because it made no sense that she's supposed to stay dead. People get their faces melted off with lava and you can just phoenix down them back to life. Realizing she was dead was more like a slow process of going "wow, that's really how shitty this writing is?"

Greatest storytelling medium of all time, top 3 games ever :o

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Watching youtube gaming personalities trying to defend this crap.

[James_Joyce]

Youtube gaming personalities will be defending FEMA deathcamps when it comes to that.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I know a lot of them got early access to play FF15 earlier this year so I have a feeling that's a huge part of it.

Square was smart to start bribing youtube personalities before anyone else.

[Pokesan]

If youtube personalities won't tell us what games to like, then who will?

WHO I SAY! WHO!

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

If youtube personalities won't tell us what games to like, then who will?

WHO I SAY! WHO!

I'm asking for diversity of opinion... you know, the opposite of what you just projected.

[James_Joyce]

What are you two even arguing about? Kiss and make up

[Pokesan]

I'm not arguing, I'm heckling.

Going to youtube to find out whether to like a game is a really silly thing to do.

[Thulack]

ff7 was good but it wasnt that good. final fantasy 3 was the best final fantasy. long live snes, long live the returners, long live kefka.

Dec. 16th FF3 comes to steam!! Yeah there are some changes to graphics and names of a few things but i'm excited to not have to play it on a emu.

[Secrets]

Episodic content? Square Enix can fuck right off

[Swish]

FF stopped being good at 5,6, and 7, 8 was pure trash unless you are a post-millenial in which case it's good.

They've been riding the wave of 10 for too long imo. You can partly blame some fans for buying the bad installments in the hope it'll be good.

If nobody buys they'll have to have a proper shake up etc.

Really hope nobody gets duped into buying 7 in three installments, thats got to be the shittiest thing I've seen yet from a developer.

[iruinedyourday]

I agree even as a like 9 year old i remember thinking that 3(6) felt pretty bloated

[dafier]

Personally I loved FF1, 2, 3 and 7. Everything after 7, no. The stories of 11, 12 and 13 were OK. I watched my buddy play them, but nothing like the originals.

I did play the beta of FF14 and never purchased/subscribed.

[iruinedyourday]

Personally I loved FF1, 2, 3 and 7. Everything after 7, no. The stories of 11, 12 and 13 were OK. I watched my buddy play them, but nothing like the originals.

I did play the beta of FF14 and never purchased/subscribed.

as much as I didnt enjoy 3/7 I understand them fitting into the just as good as 1&2 category and belong in the box set of best ff games ever..

the box set of FOUR games, no more .

[Millburn]

6 will be my favorite forever but 9 and 8 have always been close seconds to me. I'm looking forward to this new 7 remake but I do think the fanboys are going to ruin it for everyone.

[iruinedyourday]

6 will be my favorite forever but 9 and 8 have always been close seconds to me. I'm looking forward to this new 7 remake but I do think the fanboys are going to ruin it for everyone.

9 was the one that went back to the ff1 art style, but in 3D right?

I was very excited about it, but the writing was (no offence) too childlish.. Like the age range for that game was 6-12 not 12+ it felt to me.

I was like 13 heh

on a side note, this youtube link keeps poping up in my relateds, probubly becuse of these conversations and stuff we been linking.. and got dayum the art in secret of mana was fucking kick ass, despite me not really enjoying the game too much. Perhaps I should load it up the EMU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGK3usiX31s

[James_Joyce]

FFX was better than FF7 and 8 and maybe 9 (when played singleplayer at least) too. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0)

I'm right and you know it.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Only played through FFX once. It was like square was trying really hard to remake FFVII without remaking it and failed at every aspect. The PS2 era games were a clusterfuck.

[iruinedyourday]

FFX was better than FF7 and 8 and maybe 9 (when played singleplayer at least) too. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0)

I'm right and you know it.

Im not into tropical themes in games.

Dont like eurids crossing.

Dont like mario sunshine.

Hell i dont even like star tropics.

[James_Joyce]

game was only "tropical" for 10 mins at the beginning when you meet the jolly brown islanders with a simple way of life, and days spent playing b-ball

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I hated blitzball

[Pokesan]

I hated blitzball

[James_Joyce]

I hated blitzball

well you have shitty taste then

i was the blitzball CHAMPION

still waiting for the ffx remake with competitive online blitzball minigame

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

well you have shitty taste then

i was the blitzball CHAMPION

And I'm the patty cake champion.

[Pokesan]

blitzball was dumb as hell

[James_Joyce]

yall just got no soul and ya cant jump, and ya got no taste for b-ball games

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

yall just got no soul and ya cant jump, and ya got no taste for b-ball games

And I'm ok with that.

[iruinedyourday]

game was only "tropical" for 10 mins at the beginning when you meet the jolly brown islanders with a simple way of life, and days spent playing b-ball

I cant handle this thai resteraunt lookn shit kek I did hear blitzball was a game that could have been its own standalone game tho.. maybe they should make that.

http://www.picgifs.com/wallpapers/games/final-fantasy-10/animaatjes-final-fantasy-10-68605.jpg

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I cant handle this thai resteraunt lookn shit kek I did hear blitzball was a game that could have been its own standalone game tho.. maybe they should make that.

As much as I hated blitzball, there were indeed enough people who liked it that they would of had made plenty of cash with a stand alone.

[James_Joyce]

And I'm ok with that.

This guy doesn't understand what soul is if he's okay with having none. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYnenIWZjwE)


I cant handle this thai resteraunt lookn shit kek I did hear blitzball was a game that could have been its own standalone game tho.. maybe they should make that.

http://www.picgifs.com/wallpapers/games/final-fantasy-10/animaatjes-final-fantasy-10-68605.jpg
I want Tidus and Yuna to laugh extensively (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FTJxfV3pc) after forcing me to take my underwear off in front of them at swordpoint, and then proceed to step on my cock and balls for hours while still laughing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FTJxfV3pc).

[Madbad]

they def had my money until episodic content

[Tethler]

I wonder if they will animate the Cloud cross-dressing scene at Don Corneo's mansion. Seeing a HD Cloud getting hit on by dudes would be hilarious.

If this is seriously going to released as episodic content they can fuck off. I learned my lesson with Starcraft.

[James_Joyce]

I wonder if they will animate the Cloud cross-dressing scene at Don Corneo's mansion. Seeing a HD Cloud getting hit on by dudes would be hilarious

and with voice acting

9/10 chance if it is not cut the translation will be tumblr incarnate

[Swish]

I actually would buy Blitzball as a standalone game if the difficulty was there and the skills to collect/discover were numerous :)

Spent way waaaay too long playing that.

[maestrom]

I actually would buy Blitzball as a standalone game if the difficulty was there and the skills to collect/discover were numerous :)

Spent way waaaay too long playing that.

dat wakka ultimate weapon....

Did you guys all see the list of trophies available on the PS4 port of FF7? (not the remake, just the port).

http://www.exophase.com/game/final-fantasy-vii-ps4/trophies/

I'm really disappointed. I bought it anyways, but I really would have liked a more extensive list of more fun trophies.

There is a trophy for going on a date with Barrett, but that's the only date trophy. Why not have a meta trophy for going on dates with all available chars?

There is a trophy for having Don Corneo pick Cloud. Why not trophies for the girls too and then another meta?

Why is there only 1 trophy for Golden Saucer minigames not including chocobo racing?

Another dozen have popped into my head in the past day and another 50 would pop in if my memories of the game weren't almost 10 years old (since last full playthrough).

Seems like if they'd taken 30 minutes of some nerds sitting in a room with some mountain dew and doritos and then another week of a dude digging through memory locations we could have gotten a much better list of trophies than this slapdash crap.

You can get all of these trophies in 1 playthrough. Not fatal to a trophy list for sure, but in a game that takes multiple playthroughs to do everything, shouldn't there be trophies to recognize that? I dunno. It seems like its possible to get a few trophies within the first 10 minutes of starting the game and then not get another trophy till you're at the very end of the game. Kinda just bleh.

Edit: For example. Dark Souls. If you want the platinum in Dark Souls, you have to do almost every little thing there is to do in that game and play through it a minimum of 2.5 times (need 3 sif kills). This FF7 version seems happy to give you a platinum trophy after just getting a master summoning materia (which is not joke for sure and probably the most tedious thing to get in the game, but its certainly not the whole game).

[jarshale]

Now that I think about it I'm okay with episodic releases, depending on how long the parts are. Real talk, they just can't afford to recreate the entire game at once. It's fucking huge, especially when you realize that what would normally be one pre rendered background will be an open 3d area. Or at least as open as modern FF game design allows. The first Midgar and Shinra bldg sections could easily be a 20-30 hour game by itself.

Also I think they said something like the completed parts would be a longer game then the original, but that could just be bullshit. I'm tentatively keeping my hopes up though.

[Madbad]

I'll at least wait until they are all out so i can buy it as a package deal

[Swish]

Now that I think about it I'm okay with episodic releases...

Here it comes, people just gonna let them cash in 3 times instead of 1.

Yes its a big game, but that's not an excuse.

What about if they did it in 5 parts? 10? Is 3 parts your limit?

Gamers are their own worst enemy sometimes.

[Lune]

Holy shit I thought Kagatob was kidding about the episodic content.

Fucking Square. No, fucking gaming industry. Actually, fucking entire entertainment industry.

We didn't need 3 fucking Hobbits and we don't need 3 FF VII's

[James_Joyce]

Holy shit I thought Kagatob was kidding about the episodic content.

Fucking Square. No, fucking gaming industry. Actually, fucking entire entertainment industry.

We didn't need 3 fucking Hobbits and we don't need 3 FF VII's

No no, fucking entire society. Fucking collective consciousness of the English-speaking world. I can pinpoint the exact moment where we all forked off (or maybe I'm here alone, hello???) away from reality and into the bizarro parody universe. It's right now. (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/anonymous-targets-donald-trump-calls-144258952.html#T4ZQqlw)

[jarshale]

Here it comes, people just gonna let them cash in 3 times instead of 1.

Yes its a big game, but that's not an excuse.

What about if they did it in 5 parts? 10? Is 3 parts your limit?

Gamers are their own worst enemy sometimes.

If each part has enough content in it to make it worth the sticker price, that's all that matters to me. If it's $60 a part for 5 hours of game play, I would be pissed.

[Tethler]

If each part has enough content in it to make it worth the sticker price, that's all that matters to me. If it's $60 a part for 5 hours of game play, I would be pissed.

It's the gap in release dates that get me. Look at Halflife 2 and Starcraft 2. If it's in 3 parts with 2 years between each, hell no. If that's the case, I'll wait till it's all out and torrent that shit and play on a PS4 emulator to avoid giving them a dime. All the DLC and microtransactions are such a scam. I'd like to see AAA titles put out a complete product that's all together and doesn't require more $ down the road.

[Pokesan]

what's the appropriate thing to do when absolutely furious about video games?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

what's the appropriate thing to do when absolutely furious about video games?
Organize a boycott.

[Pokesan]

Organize a boycott.

do you believe that will effect the change you seek?

[Tethler]

what's the appropriate thing to do when absolutely furious about video games?

To sound cliche, money talks. Don't give them money when they pull dumb shit and they'll either catch on or go bankrupt.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

do you believe that will effect the change you seek?

If people were smart enough to stop funding these terrible companies? Yes.

[Psionide]

20-30 hours of Midgar sounds like absolute torture as that was my least favorite part of the game. I don't want to spend the entire
time it took me to beat the whole game on just midgar.

[James_Joyce]

i havent paid more than $100 into the games publishing industry in the last 2 years and they still keep pumping out more shitty games than i can keep up with pirating

[Swish]

i havent paid more than $100 into the games publishing industry in the last 2 years and they still keep pumping out more shitty games than i can keep up with pirating

lol 😹