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jcr4990
12-05-2015, 03:24 AM
Does FAT really think they're going to complete the 100% bugged out Ring War or are they just doing it and pretending to try to complete it knowing it will give them a free Dain pop? Sounds like sploitin to me pals. Place ur votes. FAT members not allowed to vote.

http://i.imgur.com/KgWOWyj.jpg

Pokesan
12-05-2015, 03:29 AM
Pokesan easily gains FTE on this thread!

Juevento
12-05-2015, 03:30 AM
Pokesan easily gains FTE on this thread!

The obsession might be real?

Vianna
12-05-2015, 03:31 AM
They were down to like 9 mobs from finishing the ring war tonight when one got through and made it to Kael. So yeah they were close to finishing the ring War. Whoever says it isn't doable hasn't been watching.

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 03:31 AM
BDA's salty tears engages Pokesan!

Pokesan
12-05-2015, 03:31 AM
The obsession might be real?

I have FTE, the thread belongs to me, do not thread steal me

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 03:34 AM
Juevento backstabs Pokesan for 1337 damage.
Juevento backstabs Pokesan for 1337 damage.
Juevento has slain Pokesan!
BDA's salty tears engages Juevento!

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 03:36 AM
In before another ring war tomorrow.

Prismaticshop
12-05-2015, 03:56 AM
OP is 24/7 on the forums and in BDA, kills nothing in game and keeps posting salty threads lol.

the obsession is real

ArumTP
12-05-2015, 04:13 AM
Yesterday was eh why the hell not a ring war. We did a decent job and learned some stuff. Boosted with some confidence from our mild successes, today got really close, failed around the 4th warlord.

1 or 2 more ideal numbers/players/luck wars and there should be success.

ManuelThePopStar
12-05-2015, 07:06 AM
Exactly what number of players would u consider "ideal?"

Uuruk
12-05-2015, 08:39 AM
OP is 24/7 on the forums and in BDA, kills nothing in game and keeps posting salty threads lol.

the obsession is real

Pretty fucking accurate

Relbaic
12-05-2015, 09:42 AM
Sentry Badain is up right now, he should not be. I think I remember this mentioned in one of the bug reports, but this currently is not functioning properly.

So even though it was acknowledged that Baldain shouldn't be up the day after a failed Ring War another one was attempted with more than twice the numbers it took to complete on Live because people just want to prove that it can be done. Oh and it was another failed attempt.

Seems legit.

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 10:47 AM
This is fucking retarded. FAT is clearly exploiting anything and everything. The only people defending them benefit from being in that ahitty made alliance

Kekephee
12-05-2015, 11:13 AM
I voted "No and I'm a member" because now I'm a member and I get to random on some gear from some mob that they're apparently killing that we aren't

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 11:31 AM
Sweet rolling heals and keke on resists. Decent support but BDA is going to need a tank and dps if they plan on downing this rnf raid target

Fire Beetle
12-05-2015, 11:32 AM
Quick someone stand on their thread so when it fails we can pick it up!

You-Seem-Mad
12-05-2015, 11:56 AM
Pokesan easily gains FTE on this thread!

This thread is clearly a stall. I have fraps. Please concede.

rictus204
12-05-2015, 12:26 PM
i like it!

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 12:36 PM
OP is 24/7 on the forums and in BDA, kills nothing in game and keeps posting salty threads lol.

the obsession is real

I'll ask you the same question I asked Detoxx. Do you have any idea how many pras tells I receive on a daily basis for trashing your shitty alliance? I've become a celebrity in-game outside of FAT kid circles. I can certainly understand why u guys aren't big fans of me but I assure you I do this 99% for the lulz and 1% cause I think your alliance is dumb and regularly engages in borderline exploitative behavior. Just like TMO used to coincidentally ;)

The fact that u guys genuinely think zerging dragons with 3 guilds 100+ players is any kind of accomplishment is mindblowing to me. Seeing you come to the forums and try to hold it over BDA's head is laughable at best. I would put BDA 1 on 1 against Asgard or Taken any day of the week and I'd bet money we trash Asgard 3/4 the time or better and Taken would be closer to 50/50. But keep on being warmbodies in Detoxx's zerg and bragging about it. It makes for great RNF fuel.

Tycoon
12-05-2015, 12:50 PM
your alliance is dumb and regularly engages in borderline exploitative behavior.

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 01:10 PM
Jcr has massive aggro that was like sinking 10 string charges. Burn it! Dps in!! Cmon BDA its in the bag, don't wipe now!

Oleris
12-05-2015, 01:17 PM
I'll ask you the same question I asked Detoxx. Do you have any idea how many pras tells I receive on a daily basis for trashing your shitty alliance? I've become a celebrity in-game outside of FAT kid circles. I can certainly understand why u guys aren't big fans of me but I assure you I do this 99% for the lulz and 1% cause I think your alliance is dumb and regularly engages in borderline exploitative behavior. Just like TMO used to coincidentally ;)

The fact that u guys genuinely think zerging dragons with 3 guilds 100+ players is any kind of accomplishment is mindblowing to me. Seeing you come to the forums and try to hold it over BDA's head is laughable at best. I would put BDA 1 on 1 against Asgard or Taken any day of the week and I'd bet money we trash Asgard 3/4 the time or better and Taken would be closer to 50/50. But keep on being warmbodies in Detoxx's zerg and bragging about it. It makes for great RNF fuel.



https://i.imgur.com/3Gmiifk.gif

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 01:18 PM
Omg the oleris flurry gifs!! Patch the tank! Need more heals

Oleris
12-05-2015, 01:22 PM
Omg the oleris flurry gifs!! Patch the tank! Need more heals

https://i.imgur.com/dj8h9fR.gif

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 01:25 PM
https://i.imgur.com/3Gmiifk.gif

You heard me

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 01:26 PM
Lack of self worth unleashes a flurry on jcr4990
Lack of self worth unleashes a flurry on jcr4990
Lack of self worth unleashes a flurry on jcr4990
Jcr4990 has been slain by lack of self worth!
Sweettouch's cast is interrupted.

Need another tank to pick it up! Where is the dps? BDA!!!!!!!

Oleris
12-05-2015, 01:27 PM
You heard me

http://i.imgur.com/v4kAw1j.gif

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 01:42 PM
This thread turned into deflection and retarded bullshit,not shocked

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 01:50 PM
FAT refusing to acknowledge their blatant exploiting. Surprising.

Pint
12-05-2015, 02:15 PM
What a surprise, more bda tears over another area of content they are incapable of competing for ~

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 02:16 PM
This is looking like a wipe on the first attempt. Let's see how the CR goes

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 02:18 PM
Oh boy,had to batphone for backup I see. 150 people crying and acting superior when they cheat inc

Pokesan
12-05-2015, 02:21 PM
This is looking like a wipe on the first attempt. Let's see how the CR goes

lmao

5 stars!!

contemptor
12-05-2015, 02:30 PM
What a surprise, more bda tears over another area of content they are incapable of competing for ~
Competing is throwing 130 people at a mob right?

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 02:48 PM
What a surprise, more bda tears over another area of content they are incapable of competing for ~

BDA incapable of failing Ring Wars to spawn Dain? False

BDA incapable of killing Dain? False

Asgard incapable of killing Dain without an alliance? True

Pint's yikes levels are off the charts.

Dalven
12-05-2015, 02:59 PM
ITT: the culmination of 2 weeks of op getting mad that people are having fun playing everquest in a way he doesn't approve and thinks he is becoming a server celebrity because of it.

Kluwen1
12-05-2015, 03:05 PM
I'll ask you the same question I asked Detoxx. Do you have any idea how many pras tells I receive on a daily basis for trashing your shitty alliance? I've become a celebrity in-game outside of FAT kid circles. I can certainly understand why u guys aren't big fans of me but I assure you I do this 99% for the lulz and 1% cause I think your alliance is dumb and regularly engages in borderline exploitative behavior. Just like TMO used to coincidentally ;)

The fact that u guys genuinely think zerging dragons with 3 guilds 100+ players is any kind of accomplishment is mindblowing to me. Seeing you come to the forums and try to hold it over BDA's head is laughable at best. I would put BDA 1 on 1 against Asgard or Taken any day of the week and I'd bet money we trash Asgard 3/4 the time or better and Taken would be closer to 50/50. But keep on being warmbodies in Detoxx's zerg and bragging about it. It makes for great RNF fuel.

Lol thanks, haven't had a good laugh all week haha. Lets not forget, BDA had to zerg most kunark targets (and probably still does) in order to kill them before Velious. Loved seeing you guys wipe with 50 people on Trakanon and Asgard kill it with 17 on top of your corpses.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 03:06 PM
ITT: the culmination of 2 weeks of op getting lulz out of making fun of people that are exploiting everquest in a way he doesn't approve and is becoming a server celebrity because of it.

FTFY

Kluwen1
12-05-2015, 03:11 PM
Competing is throwing 130 people at a mob right?

Wheres your bashing of Rampage? Did you see how many they had for AoW/Statue on last attempt with Divinity?

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 03:12 PM
Lol thanks, haven't had a good laugh all week haha. Lets not forget, BDA had to zerg most kunark targets (and probably still does) in order to kill them before Velious. Loved seeing you guys wipe with 50 people on Trakanon and Asgard kill it with 17 on top of your corpses.

This is coming from the guy that I assume is currently part of an alliance that fields 100-150 on every raid target these days and still loses to 60-70 Rampage like 90% of the time?

https://media.giphy.com/media/5YF9dwGZ29rVe/giphy.gif

Kluwen1
12-05-2015, 03:15 PM
This is coming from the guy that I assume is currently part of an alliance that fields 100-150 on every raid target these days and still loses to 60-70 Rampage like 90% of the time?

https://media.giphy.com/media/5YF9dwGZ29rVe/giphy.gif

The FAT alliance is not losing to rampage 90% of the time, might want to get your facts straight ;)

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 03:20 PM
The FAT alliance is not losing to rampage 90% of the time, might want to get your facts straight ;)

Heard you guys got 2 dragons in ToV last week. Also let's not forget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk5Qk8eV7bg&feature=youtu.be

P.S. Rampage killed Sont with like 60 ppl after your zerg died

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 03:29 PM
Wheres your bashing of Rampage? Did you see how many they had for AoW/Statue on last attempt with Divinity?

Rampage plays fair and doesn't resort to being scumbags for the mobs they get.

Danth
12-05-2015, 03:33 PM
It's not an exploit until the staff calls it an exploit. Right now, today, 10th Ring War's current incarnation is simply something that'll be altered at some future date. Staff can patch the server any time they want to; they can disable the Ring War entirely if they wish. They haven't, so--have at it. Wish you guys would do this during off-hours, though. Thurgadin being dead during primetime is pretty annoying.

Danth

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 03:46 PM
Rampage plays fair and doesn't resort to being scumbags for the mobs they get.

QFT

Kluwen1
12-05-2015, 03:46 PM
Heard you guys got 2 dragons in ToV last week. Also let's not forget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk5Qk8eV7bg&feature=youtu.be

P.S. Rampage killed Sont with like 60 ppl after your zerg died

Again you might want to get your facts straight, this thread is dying quick. Let me help you, the FAT alliance doesn't exist in ToV. Silly troll, get your facts straight /sigh

Kluwen1
12-05-2015, 03:49 PM
Rampage plays fair and doesn't resort to being scumbags for the mobs they get.

Yeaaaaah not so much, they will have to now that a tracker can't insta fte.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 03:51 PM
Again you might want to get your facts straight, this thread is dying quick. Let me help you, the FAT alliance doesn't exist in ToV. Silly troll, get your facts straight /sigh

Are you saying FA(T) did not get only 2 dragons last week in ToV out of like 17? Cause multiple people told me so but they might have been lying. Or are u claiming Rampage didn't smoke Sont with around 1/2 the raidforce that FA(T) got absolutely slaughtered with? Which facts exactly do I not have straight?

Is it more PC if I use FA(T)?

http://i.imgur.com/4LEyfZG.jpg

Kluwen1
12-05-2015, 03:58 PM
Are you saying FA(T) did not get only 2 dragons last week in ToV out of like 17? Cause multiple people told me so but they might have been lying. Or are u claiming Rampage didn't smoke Sont with around 1/2 the raidforce that FA(T) got absolutely slaughtered with? Which facts exactly do I not have straight?

Is it more PC if I use FA(T)?

http://i.imgur.com/4LEyfZG.jpg

FA(T) yes, now this thread is getting somewhere!

ArumTP
12-05-2015, 04:14 PM
Trollolololol

For a guy that is never around at these raids or a guild that never even tires to attempt these targets, you seem to think you know anything of raiding.

Rampage plays fair and doesn't resort to being scumbags for the mobs they get.

Confirmed rampage poster

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 04:24 PM
Trollolololol

For a guy that is never around at these raids or a guild that never even tires to attempt these targets, you seem to think you know anything of raiding.

Arum

For a guy that's in a guild that would never stand a chance at raiding anything significant without a zerg alliance. You seem to think zerging dragons on Forsaken's coattails means you have room to talk. You don't.

Dalven
12-05-2015, 04:25 PM
FTFY

I dunno pal, you insist quite a lot you do it for the 'lulz' and throw around vague exploit accusations. If anything you reek of denial.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 04:26 PM
I dunno pal, you insist quite a lot you do it for the 'lulz' and throw around vague exploit accusations. If anything you reek of denial.

How was I vague? I openly called Forsaken out for exploiting ring war to spawn Dain and for intentionally desyncing other guilds. Feel like I was pretty up front about that.

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 04:27 PM
QFT

Florid

For a guy as cool as you I'm sure you would be a pleasure to hang out with in vent

Baler
12-05-2015, 04:28 PM
http://oi67.tinypic.com/219870j.jpg

Kluwen1
12-05-2015, 04:31 PM
Florid

For a guy as cool as you I'm sure you would be a pleasure to hang out with in vent

Don't let him fool you, he likes to eat his dinner while talking in vent.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 04:33 PM
What raid targets has Asgard killed without Forsaken's help since Velious launch? Have they even done a solo Vindi?

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 04:34 PM
We killed fippy darkpaw

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 04:39 PM
Oh yea and we smoked you guys on many a trakanons

ArumTP
12-05-2015, 04:42 PM
How was I vague? I openly called Forsaken out for exploiting ring war to spawn Dain and for intentionally desyncing other guilds. Feel like I was pretty up front about that.

While your guild was off farming HoT and Rampage went to sleepers. Icewall still dsync'ed with 109 players. It is a server limitation. But please go on how BDA is the victim.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 04:47 PM
While your guild was off farming HoT and Rampage went to sleepers. Icewall still dsync'ed with 109 players. It is a server limitation. But please go on how BDA is the victim.

Everyone outside FA(T) is the victim of FA(T)'s shitty behavior. It's not just a BDA issue :(

Baler
12-05-2015, 04:51 PM
http://oi67.tinypic.com/219870j.jpg
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/041/407/3b9.gif

Pint
12-05-2015, 05:26 PM
Everyone outside FA(T) is the victim of FA(T)'s shitty behavior. It's not just a BDA issue :(

FA(T) doesnt raid kunark targets, how are you guys a victim of anything we do lol

ManuelThePopStar
12-05-2015, 05:36 PM
Wheres your bashing of Rampage? Did you see how many they had for AoW/Statue on last attempt with Divinity?

That's the fucking AoW. You're bringing 100+ people to shit like Dain and standard Ntov dragons.

Apples and Oranges bro.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 05:40 PM
FA(T) doesnt raid kunark targets, how are you guys a victim of anything we do lol

When we show up to contest shit like Dain your zerglings intentionally desync us so...

ManuelThePopStar
12-05-2015, 05:41 PM
FA(T) doesnt raid kunark targets, how are you guys a victim of anything we do lol

U kidding me? Taken contests every single VP spawn and, oftentimes, Asgard is alongside them.

Kluwen1
12-05-2015, 05:42 PM
That's the fucking AoW. You're bringing 100+ people to shit like Dain and standard Ntov dragons.

Apples and Oranges bro.

Thats fair although I'm pretty confident Rampage could kill AOW by itself at prime time. Whether or not we had an alliance there would still be the same amount of people in the zone as Forsaken, Taken and Asgard can each individually kill Dain at this point.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 05:43 PM
U kidding me? Taken contests every single VP spawn and, oftentimes, Asgard is alongside them.

Correct but only like 5 Asgard members. Doesn't stop them from taking credit tho :P

ManuelThePopStar
12-05-2015, 05:43 PM
In fact, I've seen multiple Gorenaires in the past 1-2 months that included F(AT)

So we have (FAT), (FA)T and F(AT).

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 06:01 PM
Prove it

Post on your real account ya dingus. Even your own FATmate called u out last time u posted something dumb.

Also you do realize posting fraps of other ppl desyncing you while being desynced isn't possible right?

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 06:06 PM
So you have no proof, you are just working off of an uneducated assumption which you cant hope to support. Got it, you're dismissed kid

I watched FAT raid stand on top of us and all of them simultaneously started casting shit. Within seconds I was desynced. FAT seems to believe in some pretty crazy coincidences.

bktroost
12-05-2015, 06:10 PM
Can anyone prove to me a shred of code that has been altered due to our continual ring war attempts on this server? Is there a progress report being updated somewhere? Is there a GM or guide dedicating themselves to watching Ring Wars and recording for fixing? Is there a deadline for a patch that includes a first attempt at fixing. A little salty subtext here, but ultimately I am very genuinely interested.


Also, I have not promoted any ring war effort since Cloki and I did the first one on the server for the Omni monk because I'm unsure if that's what staff wants now. Are we exploiting or is this actually producing a benefit to the GM team. If there was leadership promoting change I'd love to be apart of it as a leader of players. We just need direction.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 06:20 PM
You watched a raid that was rebuffing casting spells and assumed that it was an attempt at desyncing you on purpose. You have no prior evidence that this has happened in the past and just your uneducated assumption that it did this time. You ignore evidence that would contradict you in order to further a narrative of ignorance and presumably jealousy. Come back when you have proof kid, as I said. You're dismissed

Even if what you claim is true. It's still pretty scummy to stand on top of our raid and do that during our engage. Rampage did the right thing and backed off. As did BDA during FAT's attempt. Real convenient that FAT sat directly on top of us and "buffed" all at once nonstop til we wiped. I'm sure its just another coincidence I apologize for insinuating the squeaky clean FAT alliance would do something shady for pixels.

I'm done talking to you for now. If you wanna talk like an adult on your real account I'll be here kiddo. I'm guessing that won't happen since your guild isn't supposed to talk on RNF. Am I right? Tell me "BillSmith" how does Detoxx's dick taste?

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 06:29 PM
No, the only convenient thing here is you making uninformed connections in an effort to further your on goals. I am under the impression that it was assumed, based on prior examples, that BDA was going to wipe no matter, and it was in their best interest to get buffed up and ready to pick up the mob in question. Probably had something to do with the amazing performance put forth by BDA while rampage and FAT were suspended for 2 weeks.

However you are still basing your conclusion on nothing more than your own ignorant assumption. You cant prove your claims yet you keep repeating them even after people mentioned being desynced at dain while BDA was busy "raiding" HoT and rampage was in sleepers.

Your excuses are childish, your lack of evidence makes it a joke. For the third time child, you're dismissed

Tell me "BillSmith" how does Detoxx's dick taste?

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 06:33 PM
LOL, personal attacks are the best defense you can come up with? Go warm up some hot pockets and come back when you think of a better response. I expected more from such a big talking BDA member.... Actually, no I didnt

Tell me "BillSmith" how does Detoxx's dick taste?

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 06:35 PM
"P99's Scapegoat" Do you actually understand what a scapegoat is? People making fun of BDA for being bad, isn't BDA being the servers scapegoat. They aren't blaming you for anything, they are just pointing out your pixel limitations. The English language really isn't that difficult, but a strong foundation centered around a good education is helpful. Come back when you have achieved the latter

Tell me "BillSmith" how does Detoxx's dick taste?

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 06:38 PM
Is this really the self proclaimed "server celebrity"? Actually seems like that would be a jab at the mentality of the average player on P99, if this is an example of what you can come up with to defend your ignorant allegations.

Tell me "BillSmith" how does Detoxx's dick taste?

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 06:40 PM
At this point I will declare myself the winner. Again you have been dismissed, please send your mom in on your way out

Tell me "BillSmith" how does Detoxx's dick taste?

ArumTP
12-05-2015, 06:41 PM
Even if what you claim is true. It's still pretty scummy to stand on top of our raid and do that during our engage. Rampage did the right thing and backed off. As did BDA during FAT's attempt. Real convenient that FAT sat directly on top of us and "buffed" all at once nonstop til we wiped. I'm sure its just another coincidence I apologize for insinuating the squeaky clean FAT alliance would do something shady for pixels.

I'm done talking to you for now. If you wanna talk like an adult on your real account I'll be here kiddo. I'm guessing that won't happen since your guild isn't supposed to talk on RNF. Am I right? Tell me "BillSmith" how does Detoxx's dick taste?

Hokushin was quite literally FD nearby your raid to scoop it up when you fail. All their clerics were quite literally on the opposite side of the tiny pond if where you failed hard to kill dain. They just happened to not get the snipe.

As per "honorable" bda actions you left when you realized we weren't going to wipe. You failed hard on dain and are clawing onto any reason you can because in your eyes BDA is the best unbeatable guild ever. It must have been someone else's fault you failed hard, not just because your guild significantly worse than what you attempt to project

Oleris
12-05-2015, 06:46 PM
when it happens to FAT = lol zerg
when it happens to BDA = must be done on purpose.

Pokesan
12-05-2015, 06:47 PM
jcr melting down completely at this point

are we using loot council for this raiding thread? i want a pixel

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 06:49 PM
Hokushin was quite literally FD nearby your raid to scoop it up when you fail. All their clerics were quite literally on the opposite side of the tiny pond if where you failed hard to kill dain. They just happened to not get the snipe.

As per "honorable" bda actions you left when you realized we weren't going to wipe. You failed hard on dain and are clawing onto any reason you can because in your eyes BDA is the best unbeatable guild ever. It must have been someone else's fault you failed hard, not just because your guild significantly worse than what you attempt to project

I have never ever tried to say BDA is unbeatable or anything even close to that. I'm simply proud of the fact that everything we've achieved we've done it on our own. We didn't sell our souls to the devil for NToV pixels and it's laughable to me that you feel like because you did that makes you better somehow. BDA has achieved significantly more as a solo guild than Asgard has as a soloi guild at this point in time. Yet Asgard talks shit while riding Detoxx's dick. Everyone outside of FAT realizes how silly that is. I don't know why you can't see it.

When Asgard kills Dain without Forsaken carrying them come talk to me. Until then just shh your pretty little mouth k cupcake?

ArumTP
12-05-2015, 06:50 PM
I'm certainly getting a lot of DKP for participating in this thread. In fact I spent it to get a pretty sweet dain head.

Kluwen1
12-05-2015, 06:55 PM
I'm certainly getting a lot of DKP for participating in this thread. In fact I spent it to get a pretty sweet dain head.

Arum with the grand slam! Hahaha. Got himmmmm!

Fire Beetle
12-05-2015, 07:02 PM
Click, Hiss, Hiss

BDA Killed me last night. They had 30 people in North Freeport. My cousin in Misty Thicket told me he saw 15 BDA doing the same thing.

Click, Click, Hiss Click.

fiveeauxfour
12-05-2015, 07:05 PM
jcr melting down completely at this point

are we using loot council for this raiding thread? i want a pixel

Soloing a rnf raid thread will def cauae a meltdown

indiscriminate_hater
12-05-2015, 07:07 PM
At this point I will declare myself the winner. Again you have been dismissed, please send your mom in on your way out

fillibuster!

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 07:11 PM
I'm certainly getting a lot of DKP for participating in this thread. In fact I spent it to get a pretty sweet dain head.

Arum with the grand slam! Hahaha. Got himmmmm!

A+ Deflection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld3H9XTehZg


What exactly has BDA achieved? They got their solo kills when people were busy with other targets and were uncontested. When was the last contested velious kill from BDA?

Its comical when a guild who doesn't even attempt to raid targets, because they know they will fail, chooses to blame it on guilds working together in order to kill things. Perhaps you should sit in ToV for a weekend and see the actual numbers people bring out. Its not 100+ FA to 50 rampage, on almost every target the numbers brought by FA are equal to rampage sometimes rampage has more sometimes they have less.

Why does asgard have to kill dain alone to prove something when it is much easier to team up and kill it that way?

The only people proving that the FAT alliance is better than BDA are the butthurt BDA members, like yourself, spending all their time complaining about it on the forums.

Why is this idiot still posting? RNF rules 101 if you post on a fake account anything you say is immediately invalid. I'm pretty sure BillSmith is Detoxx at this point.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 07:20 PM
Let's get back on topic. Poll currently stands at 58 "Yes exploiting" and 21 "No and FAT kid" and AT LEAST 3 of those no votes are confirmed BDA members trolling. Not looking good for FAT guys.

Oh wait.. What do we have here?

http://i.imgur.com/N3Wy7VV.png

You heard it here folks. Right from their own mouth. FAT 100% unequivocally guilty of exploiting. Inb4 Ban.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 07:24 PM
Remember when dragons were bugged and not fearing or Aoeing after that patch and BDA decided to take advantage and kill all they could, until they were called out on it on the forums?

Its called hypocrisy kiddo.

Detoxx you're lucky I don't break your face into 50000 pieces

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 07:34 PM
Isn't that a quote from the sopranos?

HOLY SHIT BillSmith actually IS Detoxx. Welcome to RNF Detoxx I knew u couldn't stay away.

[Thu Dec 03 16:20:49 2015] Trollolololol -> Detoxx: If you guys don't desync Rampage and snipe the kill I'll break your face into 50000 pieces
[Thu Dec 03 16:20:57 2015] Detoxx -> Trollolololol: bro
[Thu Dec 03 16:20:59 2015] Detoxx -> Trollolololol: its from the sopranis
[Thu Dec 03 16:21:01 2015] Detoxx -> Trollolololol: sopranios
[Thu Dec 03 16:21:30 2015] Detoxx -> Trollolololol: whatever u know what i mean

ATTENTION FORSAKEN MEMBERS: You apparently now have permission to post on RNF cause your leader is doing so. Welcome! I look forward to exchanging shitposts with you all.

indiscriminate_hater
12-05-2015, 07:34 PM
jesus BDA can you stop zerging everything for just one second?

http://i.imgur.com/cJ5chFE.png?1

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 07:37 PM
jesus BDA can you stop zerging everything for just one second?

http://i.imgur.com/cJ5chFE.png?1

Uhh.. You know most of the names on that list are FAT right? I'm flooding RNF today cause I'm sick atm and can't do much else.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 07:44 PM
LOL, so the new ignorant assumption is anyone who can recognize a quote from a TV show that went for more than 5 seasons is Detoxx. Any other amazing assumptions you would like to share?

Are you really that desperate for justification that you require Detoxx to actually post here? Seems to me you are better off just sticking to your fantasies that forsaken, asgard, and taken actually care what BDA is up to...

Jig is up. Just make a Detoxx account and come back and we can discuss all the ways the things you say make no sense.

Detoxx_FAT
12-05-2015, 07:52 PM
Jig is up. Just make a Detoxx account and come back and we can discuss all the ways the things you say make no sense.

Fine you caught me. We intentionally desync raids that have FTE regularly and we do it sneaky-like so nobody can prove it. We also exploit Ring Wars for free Dain spawns. We'll never get ST loot unfortunately cause we like to pretend we're close to being #1 and passing Rampage but the reality is we're lightyears away and Rampage will wake the sleeper before we get anywhere close.

Forsaken's RNF ban is officially lifted btw.

XDrake
12-05-2015, 07:53 PM
I've always thought using an anonymous account showed a lack of conviction. :p I suspect you don't have the balls to use your actual account.

Detoxx_FAT
12-05-2015, 07:55 PM
sure kiddo. I am detox, your RNF addiction has paid off, you are now a celebrity on P99and these forums which are read by hundreds. congratulations, now stay in school so, when you grow up, you aren't still making uneducated allegations that yet again you cannot hope to ever prove.

This is why having a debate with an emotionally unstable internetchild never pans out. No matter what you say the 6 year old at the other keyboard refuses to acknowledge that they could possibly be wrong. You are so stuck in your narrative that diverging from it now would destroy your world. How sad it must be to wake up every day and check RNF to see who has commented on your attempts to remain relevant.

Detoxx you and I both know you're completely guilty of everything I've accused you of. You also know there's not really any way to 100% prove that you are guilty of those things since you can hide behind the falsehood that you were "just buffing" when you desynced us or that you really thought you could win Ring War and you weren't just doing it to pop Dain. I gotta give it to you. You're pretty good at covering your ass.

Doesn't mean you didn't do it. Anyone with half a brain knows you did.

XDrake
12-05-2015, 07:58 PM
Or I just actually follow my guilds charter and don't post in RNF, funny I know.

So instead you make a fake name and do it anyway?

Guilds of everyone aside that sounds like a lack of integrity.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 08:00 PM
sure kiddo. I am detox, your RNF addiction has paid off, you are now a celebrity on P99and these forums which are read by hundreds. congratulations, now stay in school so, when you grow up, you aren't still making uneducated allegations that yet again you cannot hope to ever prove.

This is why having a debate with an emotionally unstable internetchild never pans out. No matter what you say the 6 year old at the other keyboard refuses to acknowledge that they could possibly be wrong. You are so stuck in your narrative that diverging from it now would destroy your world. How sad it must be to wake up every day and check RNF to see who has commented on your attempts to remain relevant.

Detoxx you can stop playing dumb. You and I both know you're completely guilty of everything I've accused you of. I'll give you credit you're very good at covering your ass. You know that the things you've done are incredibly hard/impossible to prove you did. You can just hide behind the completely false "we were just buffing!" or "We really thought we could complete Ring War it wasn't just for Dain I promise!"

Everyone with half a brain sees through it. Give it a rest.

XDrake
12-05-2015, 08:04 PM
who said its a fake account? other than you and the ignorant man child trollol?

...You literally just admitted it by acknowledging your guild is forbidden to post here.

Sounds like if you are part of them you don't practice what you preach. Your need to argue with my guildmate is more important than obeying legitimate orders from your guild? Furthermore, if you are a leader among them would you reprimand one of your people for posting here?

Agree with Troll or not that's much more disrespectful to your people than he's being. He doesn't owe your people loyalty - you do.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 08:05 PM
Again, prove your claims or restrict yourself to making accusations that you can actually support.

I'll do what I want. Thanks for your input though.

It's kinda like Michael Jackson. Just because nobody could PROVE he touched kids. Does that mean he didn't do it? Nope everyone knows he did.

JurisDictum
12-05-2015, 08:06 PM
You know, there are more productive ways to voice your concern about frequent Dain spawns than just wildly accusing 1 guy (out of 3 guilds) of exploiting. I heard the vent and batphones...it was a serious attempt.

XDrake
12-05-2015, 08:11 PM
No, you said I created a fake account just to post here. when have I said this account is fake? it has active charaters on it, this account is just not associated with any of the guilds in question therefore it doesn't go against a guild charter

Well, I'm sure you know your guild charter better than I do... Claiming your not using to obfuscate your main makes me doubt your integrity even more. Just call it what it is. You don't have to capitulate that it means your opinion is any less valid posting anonymously, but to argue it isn't an attempt at obfuscation? :/

I feel bad for you if you really believe that and can't see it for what it is.

Dalven
12-05-2015, 08:13 PM
Here are some observations from the 6 pages I've missed:

- If the staff considered the ring war Dain spawns an exploit something would have been said by now

- Troll-dude is having a meltdown

- We need someone to post a repeatedlyhammerF5.gif

- In what way does guilds allying negatively affects the server?

- I really hope the "intentional desyncing" shit is a troll because nobody seriously believes that shit.

- Troll-pal quotes his own biased poll and out of context screen shot as evidence

- Troll-radge claims to be posting so much because he's sick

- Because chest isn't working today, Troll-guy is relying on BDA RnF c team for support

Prolifik
12-05-2015, 08:17 PM
Well, I'm sure you know your guild charter better than I do... Claiming your not using to obfuscate your main makes me doubt your integrity even more. Just call it what it is. You don't have to capitulate that it means your opinion is any less valid posting anonymously, but to argue it isn't an attempt at obfuscation? :/

I feel bad for you if you really believe that and can't see it for what it is.

Is this account old enough to not be a "Fake" account?

indiscriminate_hater
12-05-2015, 08:17 PM
Here are some observations from the 6 pages I've missed:

- If the staff considered the ring war Dain spawns an exploit something would have been said by now

- Troll-dude is having a meltdown

- We need someone to post a repeatedlyhammerF5.gif

- In what way does guilds allying negatively affects the server?

- I really hope the "intentional desyncing" shit is a troll because nobody seriously believes that shit.

- Troll-pal quotes his own biased poll and out of context screen shot as evidence

- Troll-radge claims to be posting so much because he's sick

- Because chest isn't working today, Troll-guy is relying on BDA RnF c team for support

TLDR

XDrake
12-05-2015, 08:21 PM
So me not wanting to use my main account in this forum somehow makes what I have said invalid? I'm sorry I thought the only integrity in question in this thread was that of the OP since he is unable to produce any evidence to support his allegations. How about you explain to me what the name next to his post has to do with the content of the post. Come back when you can explain how me using one account over another, since they are free to create, matters in relation to what was said...

Agree with him or not he at least signed his name to his accusation. I'm not going to do the same, but I will say I believe him fully on the desyncing issue. And, if the broken Ring War is being exploited for the purpose he says, that's douchey. Can you at least agree if folks are purposingly being desynced and Ring War is being exploited that it would be wrong?

You're not going to see eye to eye with him. But, he's at least signing his name to it.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 08:23 PM
I'm having a meltdown? Wow

That word gets thrown around pretty easily these days eh?

Pokesan
12-05-2015, 08:26 PM
I'm having a meltdown? Wow

That word gets thrown around pretty easily these days eh?

nice meltdown

XDrake
12-05-2015, 08:32 PM
If it was the case and people were attempting to crash others on purpose then yes, that is an issue and obviously raid interference. However Trollol's claim that people were casting near by doesn't prove shit, sorry.

FAT is actively attempting to beat the ring war every time they turn it in. The last one failed on the last 8-10 giants before the named and the end of the war, the one before that was on the 2nd to last wave. They are not turning in the declaration and then just going to Icewell to wait for the dain, which would be an obvious exploit.

So if solid evidence comes up of either of these things you'll publicly apologize?

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 08:34 PM
Although what he is claiming he cant prove and never happened. FAT never tried to intentionally desync anyone. In fact the next day when BDA and rampage weren't even there people were still disconnecting and desynching from the zone. Unless you can prove that FAT can desync only BDA while not crashing themselves then you are just making up excuses and blaming others instead of the server and its inability to handle over 100 people in certain zones. If it was the case and people were attempting to crash others on purpose then yes, that is an issue and obviously raid interference. However Trollol's claim that people were casting near by doesn't prove shit, sorry.

FAT is actively attempting to beat the ring war every time they turn it in. The last one failed on the last 8-10 giants before the named and the end of the war, the one before that was on the 2nd to last wave. They are not turning in the declaration and then just going to Icewell to wait for the dain, which would be an obvious exploit.

1: I openly admit that I cannot 100% prove that FAT is exploiting. You know what you did isn't something we can prove. If I had rock solid proof I wouldn't be here I'd be submitting it to staff.

2: You obviously can't desync only BDA. But if BDA has the FTE and you desync EVERYONE then BDA wipes and the other guilds (Who aren't engaged) will not die and still have full buffs.etc and be prepared to get their own FTE/Attempt. Is this difficult to understand?

3: You have to attempt to win the ring war so it looks good. If you didn't attempt at all you know you'd get in trouble with staff.

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 08:38 PM
On a side note, the last attempt failed with ~8 giants left in the last wave before the named boss. So the event is actually able to be completed. Its not like FAT is just handing in the trigger papers then zoning into thurg B to wait for Dain, at which point it would be a clear exploit

Got to actually try to do it so you don't get banned right?

ArumTP
12-05-2015, 08:42 PM
1: I openly admit that I cannot 100% prove that FAT is exploiting. You know what you did isn't something we can prove. If I had rock solid proof I wouldn't be here I'd be submitting it to staff.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 08:43 PM
So they are actively attempting the ring war so they don't get in trouble with the staff yet you are still upset they are actively attempting the ring war?

How is another guild supposed to be ready to engage on BDAs wipe if half of their raid is desynched?

So you admit that you have no proof other than your assumptions. Yet you think that is enough to make public accusations against another guild?

Actively attempting when you know you won't win in order to receive free Dain spawn*

Desync has collateral damage. But the alternative is BDA would have killed Dain so you had to do what you had to do. The strategy ended up working out in your favor so obviously it works.

I have what I saw with my own eyes and what MANY other people saw. I was sent tells from multiple people that night saying "Wtf did they really just do that?" but you keep on pretending I'm the one that's wrong for making "accusations"

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 08:47 PM
But if you are actually attempting it then what is the problem? its not FATs fault that the current coding respawns the dain upon a failure, or that the ring war trigger mob is on a 2.5 hour respawn instead of 3 days. You realize that it is still a large investment of time to try to finish the war rather than just let the first wave end it, right?

When that patch hit that broke raid bosses, BDA killed mobs and claimed it wasn't an exploit to kill raid mobs whose coding had been messed up since they weren't the ones who broke it. While a few guilds saw that everything was bugged and refrained from killing anything until it was fixed. LOL in fact BDA claimed they were just testing it the next day when they got called out on the raid forums.

Seems to me, that if this was a bug it was reported months ago, more than enough time for it have been taken out, fixed or just disabled. However it wasn't, so there is obviously a reason it is being kept this way at the moment.
Trying it two days in a row when you know it is unwinnable then standing in thurgb to feed your shitty alliance pixels is very obvious unless you are retarded

ArumTP
12-05-2015, 08:49 PM
But if you are actually attempting it then what is the problem? its not FATs fault that the current coding respawns the dain upon a failure, or that the ring war trigger mob is on a 2.5 hour respawn instead of 3 days. You realize that it is still a large investment of time to try to finish the war rather than just let the first wave end it, right?

When that patch hit that broke raid bosses, BDA killed mobs and claimed it wasn't an exploit to kill raid mobs whose coding had been messed up since they weren't the ones who broke it. While a few guilds saw that everything was bugged and refrained from killing anything until it was fixed. LOL in fact BDA claimed they were just testing it the next day when they got called out on the raid forums.

Seems to me, that if this was a bug it was reported months ago, more than enough time for it have been taken out, fixed or just disabled. However it wasn't, so there is obviously a reason it is being kept this way at the moment.

Ohh knockout punch

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 08:49 PM
But if you are actually attempting it then what is the problem? its not FATs fault that the current coding respawns the dain upon a failure, or that the ring war trigger mob is on a 2.5 hour respawn instead of 3 days. You realize that it is still a large investment of time to try to finish the war rather than just let the first wave end it, right?

When that patch hit that broke raid bosses, BDA killed mobs and claimed it wasn't an exploit to kill raid mobs whose coding had been messed up since they weren't the ones who broke it. While a few guilds saw that everything was bugged and refrained from killing anything until it was fixed. LOL in fact BDA claimed they were just testing it the next day when they got called out on the raid forums.

Seems to me, that if this was a bug it was reported months ago, more than enough time for it have been taken out, fixed or just disabled. However it wasn't, so there is obviously a reason it is being kept this way at the moment.

I wasn't there the night BDA killed that stuff. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I believe every target BDA killed that day was a mob that we have killed many times before easily. So it's not as if we wouldn't have been able to do it otherwise. Nor was it a situation where we were spawning more targets than should have been allowed to game more pixels out of the system. Not exactly a comparable situation pal.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 08:52 PM
No, you just think BDA would have killed dain. Nothing in BDA's track record supports this assumption.

Except for the fact that we HAVE killed Dain multiple times? More than we can say for our buddies in Asgard that are apparently so high above us /eyeroll

Pint
12-05-2015, 08:53 PM
best part about these bda rnf thread are that you know bda members walk away with that same feeling of not really having accomplished anything that they get when they walk away from kunark dragon corpse 4 months into velious

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 08:54 PM
No, you just think BDA would have killed dain. Nothing in BDA's track record supports this assumption. Which is why the other 2 raid parties down there were in position to pick up the dain as soon as you wiped.

So you assumed it was happening right away? you just automatically blame others rather than the more likely possibility that its a coding problem with the zone and the server is unable to handle the load? You admit to spreading the rumors from the start that someone else had to of desynced you?

The ring war is very doable atm with enough people. the FAT alliance actually allows them enough people to have a legitimate shot at completing it in its current incarnation. Just because BDA couldn't hope to do it the way it is, does not mean it is impossible.

That's how BDA got first dain kill in velious right? and I got first aegis of ice,by not being able to?

except the attempt the 2nd day got farther than the first day, therefore was an improvement. Still not seeing how actively attempting to finish an event is the same as just starting it to spawn the dain...

A shit without excess squirts is an improvement,but you are all clearly exploiting. you better pray GMs are just as thick skulled and mentally challenged as you.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 08:57 PM
You mean the 2 kills where you teamed up with Taken since forsaken asgard and rampage were suspended from it? that last one was really an impressive kill btw, how many times did you guys wipe?

Lol you talking about the one that spawned at like 4 AM or some shit? Where neither Taken (Members of ur alliance) nor BDA had enough online to do it alone? We've killed BDA as a solo guild I believe at least 2 times now. Including server first.

Still waiting to hear if Asgard has done it alone yet?

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 08:57 PM
Lol you talking about the one that spawned at like 4 AM or some shit? Where neither Taken (Members of ur alliance) nor BDA had enough online to do it alone? We've killed BDA as a solo guild I believe at least 2 times now. Including server first.

Still waiting to hear if Asgard has done it alone yet?

Killed Dain*

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 08:59 PM
How many 10th rings does BDA have? better yet, what wave did you guys wipe on?

How many rings? 0 just like everyone else

What wave did we get to? Wave 3 just like everybody else

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 09:01 PM
So you teamed up with another guild to get pixels yet you complain when other guilds do it?

how is that not hypocrisy again?

We don't make a habit of it. It's a very occasional thing and strictly during off-peak hours when 3/4 of our guild is asleep. Not even close to a legitimate comparison to FAT. Every dumb thing you say proves to me more and more that you really are Detoxx.

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 09:01 PM
BDA got the first dain kill because they didn't go after targets that everyone else chose to go after. Not that its a bad thing, but an uncontested kill when you are ready for the pull is apparently much easier than when your monk pulls dain because he is solo when no one is ready. You honestly don't think any of the 3 guilds in FAT could kill the dain when given as much time as they need?

I'm sorry that not everyone on this server can just 1 shot everything they attempt as a guild like BDA does. How many 10th rings does BDA have? better yet, what wave did you guys wipe on?

Everyone wipes on the same wave,and you act like people didn't have specific targets they all had planned out once velious launched ahead of time from beta. See,you are really grasping for straws

ArumTP
12-05-2015, 09:03 PM
You mean the 2 kills where you teamed up with Taken since forsaken asgard and rampage were suspended from it? that last one was really an impressive kill btw, how many times did you guys wipe?

I think they have 4 in total. Opening day(he might have been last big target up and the end of the night), another on a quake that also netted them a tormax(FA in northwing and Rampage as well), and 2 raid suspended (so no FA or Rampage)

arsenalpow
12-05-2015, 09:08 PM
I like how BDA edited the no RNF posting from their guild charter now that a majority of their raids involve RNF threads.
Never ever ever ever has that been a BDA policy. I know because I wrote it.

Here are some observations from the 6 pages I've missed:
- Because chest isn't working today, Troll-guy is relying on BDA RnF c team for support
Dat M-F doe

See, for one, nothing BDA kills is every easy for them, as proven with multiple velk wipes with over 30 people. Just because you have killed something in the past doesn't mean you are guaranteed to kill it again the next time it spawns.
patently false, but that's what forsaken does, lie

I think they have 4 in total. Opening day(he might have been last big target up and the end of the night), another on a quake that also netted them a tormax(FA in northwing and Rampage as well), and 2 raid suspended (so no FA or Rampage)
We had server first Dain and a not server first Tormax (that was like mid October) We kill stuff solo, sorry to rustle you.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 09:09 PM
The last war we lost on the 4th WL in the 3rd wave meaning if it hadn't gotten in, the named would have spawned to end the war.

So FAT wiped on 3rd wave BDA wiped on 3rd wave. Got it.

Did u know that BDA has been consciously holding off on doing Ring Wars cause we don't want to exploit a broken mechanic? I'd have to search it up but pretty sure Nilbog himself said that Dain isn't supposed to be spawning after failed wars. Walkin on thin ice imo.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 09:14 PM
So its ok when BDA does it, but FAT does it too much so its a problem?

We've done it.... Maybe 3-4 times since Vel launch? FAT does it 3 times that much per week. Valid comparison.

arsenalpow
12-05-2015, 09:16 PM
We've done it.... Maybe 3-4 times since Vel launch? FAT does it 3 times that much per week. Valid comparison.

We've done it twice, once near the start of velious, once after a patch to see if it was fixed. After that we don't believe in spawning Dains by failing the war, it's an obvious bug.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 09:19 PM
We've done it twice, once near the start of velious, once after a patch to see if it was fixed. After that we don't believe in spawning Dains by failing the war, it's an obvious bug.

Was talking about how many times we've worked with another guild to kill a target.


So the real problem, is you are upset that no one wants to ally with BDA more regularly, and usually only as a last resort, got it.

If you really think this is the case you're absolutely retarded.

arsenalpow
12-05-2015, 09:21 PM
Its the only logical conclusion one can deduce from your level of butthurt.

Your personal cuck Unbrella asked us to ally, we've been asked by other guilds, sorry you're mad. If someone is having a meltdown it's you

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 09:22 PM
Its the only logical conclusion one can deduce from your level of butthurt.

I've been extremely vocal in my dislike for multi guild alliances. I don't necessarily like it when BDA does it either. I can guarantee you I'm not upset that "nobody wants to work with BDA" lol

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 09:24 PM
from what I have heard

Keep pretending you aren't Detoxx

ArumTP
12-05-2015, 09:30 PM
We had server first Dain and a not server first Tormax (that was like mid October) We kill stuff solo, sorry to rustle you.

No rustle, fact clarification, that I think BDA has 4 dains. Instead of the ambiguous many dains jcr4990 claims

arsenalpow
12-05-2015, 09:33 PM
Asking you to share a zone that is big enough for multiple raids at once is not asking you for an alliance. And from what I have heard, he was doing that on his own without even speaking to anyone in forsaken about it. You keep bringing up the same example that only proves you don't know what you're talking about.

Ya, Detoxx had no idea I guess

http://i62.tinypic.com/2cn6rvc.jpg

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 09:37 PM
Heard there is another ring war soon,confirm or deny

Eponymous Anonymous
12-05-2015, 10:51 PM
How does FAT doing ring wars and failing differ from BDA doing ring wars and failing? BDA even went so far as to attempt to claim the resulting Dain from their October 23 failure as their spawn. Just because BDA tried and failed and has now deemed the encounter impossible means that anyone else on the server that attempts it is exploiting it? FAT almost finished the war twice now and they see the light at the end of the tunnel.

If FAT and BDA both lost on the same wave of the ring war, how is FAT exploiting it and BDA was not? Is your conclusion solely because of the bugged respawn timer? Or because FAT showed up to kill the Dain that popped from the failure? I would like to remind you that if it was the latter, BDA is 100% just as guilty.

Why did BDA show up to contest the 12/4 Dain if they truly believed it was as a result of an exploit? Or is your issue with the 12/5 Dain?

quido
12-05-2015, 10:56 PM
Blue RnF is an embarrassment now.

Nibblewitz
12-05-2015, 11:04 PM
How does FAT doing ring wars and failing differ from BDA doing ring wars and failing? BDA even went so far as to attempt to claim the resulting Dain from their October 23 failure as their spawn. Just because BDA tried and failed and has now deemed the encounter impossible means that anyone else on the server that attempts it is exploiting it? FAT almost finished the war twice now and they see the light at the end of the tunnel.


We thought the third wave was impossible because of the amount of people that it requires to burn those sprinting mobs. I heard the last attempt with 150 was a close one. Maybe 200 people will crack it next time.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 11:09 PM
How does FAT doing ring wars and failing differ from BDA doing ring wars and failing? BDA even went so far as to attempt to claim the resulting Dain from their October 23 failure as their spawn. Just because BDA tried and failed and has now deemed the encounter impossible means that anyone else on the server that attempts it is exploiting it? FAT almost finished the war twice now and they see the light at the end of the tunnel.

If FAT and BDA both lost on the same wave of the ring war, how is FAT exploiting it and BDA was not? Is your conclusion solely because of the bugged respawn timer? Or because FAT showed up to kill the Dain that popped from the failure? I would like to remind you that if it was the latter, BDA is 100% just as guilty.

Why did BDA show up to contest the 12/4 Dain if they truly believed it was as a result of an exploit? Or is your issue with the 12/5 Dain?

My understanding is BDA has done 2 ring wars. One was pretty early in Velious and we were unaware it was bugged. Second time was after a patch and we thought maybe they had fixed it. To my knowledge we've never gone into a ring war knowing that it was bugged.

Sweettouch
12-05-2015, 11:13 PM
The people have spoken,banhammer

Nibblewitz
12-05-2015, 11:16 PM
150 people? Forsaken had 27 people for both ring wars, so unless asgard and taken are bringing 60 people each, you need to try again for more accurate numbers. I believe it was closer to 60 people total for the last war which was almost completed.

You're telling me that more Forsaken showed up to the exploited Dain spawn than to the actual Ring War??

Yikes.

Raghnar
12-05-2015, 11:27 PM
hmmmm all of this drama from a ring thief anyway, picked a good day to both rant and steal

Pokesan
12-05-2015, 11:29 PM
Blue RnF is an embarrassment now.

jcr4990
12-05-2015, 11:50 PM
a ring thief?

Since I'm sure it's coming out anyway might as well be from me. I had a Rygorr head sitting in my inventory and gave in to temptation and stole a Ring 8 turnin. I feel unbelievably bad about it and am currently doing everything in my power to correct the situation. Got petitions in and have offered to MQ Ring 9 to the rightful winner who is being surprisingly cool about it. Rant away though I deserve it.

Eponymous Anonymous
12-05-2015, 11:51 PM
Good job at completely sidestepping my questions.

We thought the third wave was impossible because of the amount of people that it requires to burn those sprinting mobs. I heard the last attempt with 150 was a close one. Maybe 200 people will crack it next time.

There never was an attempt with 150 people. Not even close. You should find a more credible source of intelligence.

My understanding is BDA has done 2 ring wars. One was pretty early in Velious and we were unaware it was bugged. Second time was after a patch and we thought maybe they had fixed it. To my knowledge we've never gone into a ring war knowing that it was bugged.

What exactly was bugged that has not been fixed? Except for the obvious 2.5h vs 3 day respawn, and the fact that the mobs can fall through the world if you fight them at the wrong spots?

You're telling me that more Forsaken showed up to the exploited Dain spawn than to the actual Ring War??

Yikes.

Which Dain spawn was the exploited one? And how exactly was it exploited?

Please answer these questions for science.

fiveeauxfour
12-06-2015, 12:02 AM
jcr just stop. your continual backpedaling is pathetic. i dont think anyone knows what youre doing here. Just stop

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Its-Not-Going-to-Happen-Mean-Girls.gif

Man0warr
12-06-2015, 12:04 AM
What exactly was bugged that has not been fixed? Except for the obvious 2.5h vs 3 day respawn, and the fact that the mobs can fall through the world if you fight them at the wrong spots?


The Giants AC is too high in general (A 2h weapon that hits for ~300 was max hitting for like 184 I believe), plus the mobs fall through the world.

The biggest thing though is the final wave giants completely ignore aggro and are very resistant to snare/root - so they just run for Thurgadin and you can't stop them (or kill them fast enough because of above AC issue).

Maybe if you had 150ish people without desyncing the zone it would be possible but Ring War was done on live with far far less even in late Velious.

Man0warr
12-06-2015, 12:09 AM
Which Dain spawn was the exploited one? And how exactly was it exploited?


Forgot this one.

They are either talking about FAT intentionally failing Ring War to get a Dain spawn - who Nilbog has said is not supposed to spawn on a failure (but he's still working on a fix) - Daldaen even went through the trouble of failing a War on live and Dain doesn't spawn to make sure.

Or they are talking about FAT players intentionally spamming Rampage and BDA attempts with clickies to try and get players to desynch. Eventually both guilds got tired of it and left after rezzing up and let the 150 FAT zerg kill it.

arsenalpow
12-06-2015, 12:25 AM
Please prove that FAT was trying to intentionally DC people.

And all of the waves have agro issues, they were streaming the last war attempt if you had bothered to watch. The streamer I saw went through 4 root nets before the final wave even. The giants will fall through the world apparently I certain places so you have to catch them and kill them before they reach that point.

the falling through the world stuff is just bad geometry, it happens, but the major issue is the final wave when giants literally do not stop. No amount of snares, roots, mallets, standing on top of them aggroing, will stop them. Obviously if a giant is unaggroed he should continue his march to Thurg, but if the point of the encounter is to kill sprinting giants before they reach thurg then the AC needs to be tuned.

We were in Kunark for 4 years, everything short of Tunare and AoW died night 1 of velious, but you're telling me that the ring war is classicly tuned? That 100+ people, the majority of which are LOADED from kunark, can't get the job done? Not buying it.

Oleris
12-06-2015, 12:52 AM
the falling through the world stuff is just bad geometry, it happens, but the major issue is the final wave when giants literally do not stop. No amount of snares, roots, mallets, standing on top of them aggroing, will stop them. Obviously if a giant is unaggroed he should continue his march to Thurg, but if the point of the encounter is to kill sprinting giants before they reach thurg then the AC needs to be tuned.

We were in Kunark for 4 years, everything short of Tunare and AoW died night 1 of velious, but you're telling me that the ring war is classicly tuned? That 100+ people, the majority of which are LOADED from kunark, can't get the job done? Not buying it.

*cough* highsun

Pokesan
12-06-2015, 01:03 AM
*cough* highsun

everyone is stupid except you :cool:

Emsee
12-06-2015, 01:20 AM
Since I'm sure it's coming out anyway might as well be from me. I had a Rygorr head sitting in my inventory and gave in to temptation and stole a Ring 8 turnin. I feel unbelievably bad about it and am currently doing everything in my power to correct the situation. Got petitions in and have offered to MQ Ring 9 to the rightful winner who is being surprisingly cool about it. Rant away though I deserve it.

This coming from the self proclaimed "P99 Celebrity". How will the inevitable crash and self induced suicide attempt end?

Pokesan
12-06-2015, 01:26 AM
This coming from the self proclaimed "P99 Celebrity". How will the inevitable crash and self induced suicide attempt end?

great suicide joke bud, thanks for posting it

Emsee
12-06-2015, 01:26 AM
Welcome

Valse
12-06-2015, 01:29 AM
jcr just stop. your continual backpedaling is pathetic. i dont think anyone knows what youre doing here. Just stop

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Its-Not-Going-to-Happen-Mean-Girls.gif

Rachel McAdams is so hot. . . jebus.

Pint
12-06-2015, 04:01 AM
pretty sure the only person who can save this thread now is dafier

Sweettouch
12-06-2015, 06:37 AM
pretty sure the only person who can save this thread now is dafier

The hell you high on? Pass that over

dafier
12-06-2015, 01:01 PM
http://orig10.deviantart.net/29fa/f/2012/086/7/2/derp_oprah_by_guineapiggy202-d4u5skf.png

dafier
12-06-2015, 01:03 PM
http://f.asset.soup.io/asset/2528/3791_58b0_500.jpeg

I don't think much of anything can save this thread now. Maybe Chuck can.

Ella`Ella
12-06-2015, 04:41 PM
Your personal cuck Unbrella asked us to ally, we've been asked by other guilds, sorry you're mad. If someone is having a meltdown it's you

When you say, "personal cuck Unbrella", do you mean I'm the cuckold or the cuckolder?

Tycoon
12-07-2015, 03:59 AM
your alliance is dumb and regularly engages in borderline exploitative behavior

EQsale
12-07-2015, 05:03 AM
Since I'm sure it's coming out anyway might as well be from me. I had a Rygorr head sitting in my inventory and gave in to temptation and stole a Ring 8 turnin. I feel unbelievably bad about it and am currently doing everything in my power to correct the situation. Got petitions in and have offered to MQ Ring 9 to the rightful winner who is being surprisingly cool about it. Rant away though I deserve it.

wow go figure bda are thiefs this kid is a complete joke.

James_Joyce
12-07-2015, 05:50 AM
not that i ever read threads like this, but skimming the last few pages made me cringe hard

Phantasm
12-07-2015, 06:27 AM
yeah I made it to 15 before I finally skipped to the end to post

verdict:

you all are fucking retarded

Whirled
12-07-2015, 07:04 AM
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR-OqZPoKawjmGM6csm4yXcauW34gsOp703w4yqvhMdqBmrpIEN

I came here to post this guy to frown @ your cheating.

Gorillas
12-07-2015, 10:52 AM
Can trollololol and Chest just use 1 forum account?

Kekephee
12-08-2015, 02:39 AM
*cough* highsun

Highsun doesn't always work on shit beneath the world brah

You can't see your target


We highsun when we can but BRAH