No more Player Made Agreement for ToV

[dafier]

Please, let us know how you feel.

[Oleris]

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[Kushie]

Sirken Broadcasts, 'Lawyer up'

[Fire Beetle]

It feels like half the server doesn't know what or how decisions are made on this server.

This guy comes to mind:
http://newshour-tc.pbs.org/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/RTR4MJ2M-1024x697.jpg

[dafier]

Oleris,

Beautiful response. *high five*

[dafier]

For all of you who don't know the rules of the server:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189856

[Oleris]

So, the rules were told in a meeting between rampage/forsaken+asgard leadership. It will be very interesting to see how pulls will happen now. No more parking at triplets or aary steps for north wing mobs. No more WTOV exit for lendi/telk/goz. No HoT exit for Doze. I have no idea how this will play out.

[dafier]

So, the rules were told in a meeting between rampage/forsaken+asgard leadership. It will be very interesting to see how pulls will happen now. No more parking at triplets or aary steps for north wing mobs. No more WTOV exit for lendi/telk/goz. No HoT exit for Doze. I have no idea how this will play out.

Dude.....and I mean that. DUDE!

Learn to play better. This is F*$king awesome.

Not really saying that JUST to you, just expressing.

[Juevento]

So, the rules were told in a meeting between rampage/forsaken+asgard leadership. It will be very interesting to see how pulls will happen now. No more parking at triplets or aary steps for north wing mobs. No more WTOV exit for lendi/telk/goz. No HoT exit for Doze. I have no idea how this will play out.

Choo-choo bitch.

That's how it's gonna work out. But it might be fun! If not the QQs will be entertaining.

[Fire Beetle]

Choo-choo bitch.

That's how it's gonna work out. But it might be fun! If not the QQs will be entertaining.

I really hope its not a choo-choo fest. Otherwise BDA will have to concede before they are broken up into 50,000 pieces.

[sirelothar]

RIP BDA. Where will my boys go from here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T3N6a24A9I

[falkun]

Or we just take a week off NTOV, which would be no different than the previous 8-10 weeks, except we'd have given it a shot. Honestly, raid infractions are funny jokes on this server.

[Fire Beetle]

Why don't you guys give it a shot?

[Man0warr]

You can still pull shit to WToV exit no? Just can't be there when the raid mob spawns.

[Fire Beetle]

Yes you can. Just not WToV named mobs it seems. But if you look closely there might a grey area! BDA moving to ToV Sunday?

[Man0warr]

Why couldn't you pull WToV named to WToV exit if you weren't there when they spawned? That would retarded if true.

[Nibblewitz]

Why couldn't you pull WToV named to WToV exit if you weren't there when they spawned? That would retarded if true.

Nah, that was just in the player made agreement between Rampage and Forsaken made after Sirken said no more player made agreements.

[Fire Beetle]

Nah, that was just in the player made agreement between Rampage and Forsaken made after Sirken said no more player made agreements.

Yea that shit is fucked up amiright?!

[Oleris]

Why couldn't you pull WToV named to WToV exit if you weren't there when they spawned? That would retarded if true.

new rule. can't be parked in the same wing any more.

[jcr4990]

new rule. can't be parked in the same wing any more.

Or else your face gets broken into 50000 pieces

[dafier]

Or else your face gets broken into 50000 pieces

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q267/SpaceMaNy0/elzarBAM.jpg

[Man0warr]

new rule. can't be parked in the same wing any more.

But in this scenario everyone is running from the zone in. So you are saying you can't kill Telk/Gozz/LTK in West or Doze in East, but you can pull them to the opposite wings?

[arsenalpow]

But in this scenario everyone is running from the zone in. So you are saying you can't kill Telk/Gozz/LTK in West or Doze in East, but you can pull them to the opposite wings?

You can pull it wherever you want as long as you start from the zone in and you don't fuck another raid with the pull, at least that's how I'd assume it will be

[Juevento]

Sounds like IB and TMO had a special meeting and got their own rules.

[jcr4990]

You can pull it wherever you want as long as you start from the zone in and you don't fuck another raid with the pull, at least that's how I'd assume it will be

I can't WAIT to see the inevitable clusterfuck that will be the result of this. Gonna be so goog guys.

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[baue1446]

But according to the rules. From FTE to engage the guild has 19 seconds. So pulling mobs from NTOV to zone in would take much longer than 19 seconds and would be considering stalling.

Which means guilds now have to clear to the mobs. Or be within 19 seconds of FTE to engage. OR they concede

[Ella`Ella]

You can pull it wherever you want as long as you start from the zone in and you don't fuck another raid with the pull, at least that's how I'd assume it will be

I don't think it really matters what a guild that will never see another ToV pixel assumes.

[Kodim]

Dragons are still being pulled to West exit just like they were prior to the change.

Vyemm was pulled and fought at the zone in entrance earlier this morning, which would be a nice surprise to people going to HoT.

[Legday]

But according to the rules. From FTE to engage the guild has 19 seconds. So pulling mobs from NTOV to zone in would take much longer than 19 seconds and would be considering stalling.

Which means guilds now have to clear to the mobs. Or be within 19 seconds of FTE to engage. OR they concede

Thats only a rule if you fight the mob on its spawn point. Pulls are legal no matter how long they take as long as the mob is brought to the raid as fast possible.

[baue1446]

Thats only a rule if you fight the mob on its spawn point. Pulls are legal no matter how long they take as long as the mob is brought to the raid as fast possible.

Then what has changed? The FTE cannot be the one tracking/at spawn? that's it?

[Oleris]

Then what has changed? The FTE cannot be the one tracking/at spawn? that's it?

can't camp a raid force in the same wing as well.

[baue1446]

can't camp a raid force in the same wing as well.

So its just going to be a mad rush from LTK to spawns? (cept for LTK kills)? VS all over again?

[Oleris]

prob monk/rogue armies running up trying to secure some FTE and some crazy training between different armies.

[Fire Beetle]

Sadly red is looking better and better each day.

[baue1446]

Sadly red is looking better and better each day.

If you are empire and empire only.

[Legday]

Then what has changed? The FTE cannot be the one tracking/at spawn? that's it?

Yeah basically. There was an inherent risk for foul play with FTE'ers on spawn points so thats gone now.

Now we can train the fucking shit out of each other and anybody else crazy enough to venture past the zone in.

Its way better.

[Kelven]

this server is ridiculous

[maskedmelon]

If you are empire and empire only.

That is the predominant view of losers (both on red and who allow it to deter them for rolling red). Make a better guild ^^

[Sirken]

You can pull it wherever you want as long as you start from the zone in and you don't fuck another raid with the pull, at least that's how I'd assume it will be
^
exactly. we arent telling people where or how to kill mobs (aside from the rule posted at http://www.project1999.com/raid.php stating that "To encourage competitive racing, guilds may not camp players out in the vicinity of raid targets.". all we're saying is that players are responsible for, and need to be held accountable for the mobs that they pull.

[dafier]

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q267/SpaceMaNy0/elzarBAM.jpg

[Nibblewitz]

I guess Chest and Sirken had the real meeting to hammer this all out for yall.

[Nirgon]

Laughin

[Xaanka]

That is the predominant view of losers (both on red and who allow it to deter them for rolling red). Make a better guild ^^

[baue1446]

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exactly. we arent telling people where or how to kill mobs (aside from the rule posted at http://www.project1999.com/raid.php stating that "To encourage competitive racing, guilds may not camp players out in the vicinity of raid targets.". all we're saying is that players are responsible for, and need to be held accountable for the mobs that they pull.

So by this definition. In the example of two raid forces massing at zone in. It's best if one guild starts clearing in the path the raid mob will take to get to zone in. Which means in order for the other guild to pull past the clearing guild they will have to train said target on to that clearing guild. Thus forcing the pulling guild to concede the mob.

[arsenalpow]

So by this definition. In the example of two raid forces massing at zone in. It's best if one guild starts clearing in the path the raid mob will take to get to zone in. Which means in order for the other guild to pull past the clearing guild they will have to train said target on to that clearing guild. Thus forcing the pulling guild to concede the mob.

forsaken working on taking the charge, remember to stand outside of the restricted area or it's a block

[Uuruk]

Lol blue server. Ya'll having Fun