Let's have a serious talk for a moment.

[Secrets]

Hi folks,

I just wanted to take a moment to say something very important. There's been a ton of drama, ex-staff members fighting, current staff members fighting, and other nonsense going on. I'd like to share my take on this.

Little backstory for those who don't know me: I'm Secrets. I develop client fixes, have consulted with Nilbog for help with content, and for a brief stint of time, I was a guide, GM, whatever you to call the CSR position.

Lately, Braknar and Greengrocer did something that I did about 4 years back: They tried to attack players, staff members, and staff members on a personal level for what they thought was the 'good' of the server. I am ashamed to admit at one point in my life I thought these actions were 'for justice'. But the only justice I performed was a self-righteous crusade laced with revenge fueled intentions.

Here's the bitter reality: You're affecting real people when you do these kinds of acts. Not even the 'doxing' stuff; I meant the emotional and physical impact of these actions are in detriment to the server's health and the people behind them. Not just the staff, but the players too.

I learned something by going on one of these 'crusades' and it was the most important thing of all: Integrity is key and if you violate those rules of integrity, you are doomed to become what you hate and you will dig a hole that is hard to get out of on a personal and external level.

This is why Rogean and Nilbog are doing a great job as leaders. It is better for them to say nothing at all than to pander to the community at large. They do not get involved to save their sanity. Not everything needs a statement from 'dear leader' even if they want it. Involving yourself only stresses you and doesn't stop the people that you are trying to stop.

Plus, being less vocal shrouds the staff in secrecy so malicious players and ex-staff have less of a voice so you may continue providing what the average player wants; in this case, Classic EverQuest.

When you use malicious communication - whether it be releasing private information, an insult, or manipulation - you do not achieve the ultimate goal you are trying to do, unless your goal is destruction to begin with.

If you want to see something happen - for example, changes in Project 1999's staff - you should learn to make your own Project 1999 and make it better so you can recreate the project in your image. Trying to destroy something you wish to save (such as Classic EverQuest) can only result in more destruction, as you are acting out of vengeance instead of righteousness.

I understand the legitimate concerns of the various scandals that took place on P99 recently. Between dsetup.dll, Greengrocer outing Derubael and various information on the staff's methods, and the personal information being flung back and forth, there is a lot of concern about security, and a lot of questions about integrity.

If you think you can do the job better than the staff while keeping the spirit of Classic EQ alive, then do it with full integrity and show that you can do it better. Otherwise, continue to enjoy Project 1999 for what it is: Classic EverQuest.

[Swish]

inb4 Chest starts licking your boots.

[Swish]

What blue needs to thrive and be a great place to play is more community cohesion events such as those provided by Omni (and Rampage with their PoM event recently). This does a great job of integrating everyone rather than some guilds which don't and won't do community events and try to be elitist while calling themselves casual.

I'm not just talking about one guild there for anyone ready to roll their eyes.

Blue is fixable, it just needs people to "be nice"...there's some of it around, but more effort required as a community from what I can see.

[Secrets]

What blue needs to thrive and be a great place to play is more community cohesion events such as those provided by Omni (and Rampage with their PoM event recently). This does a great job of integrating everyone rather than some guilds which don't and won't do community events and try to be elitist while calling themselves casual.

I'm not just talking about one guild there for anyone ready to roll their eyes.

Blue is fixable, it just needs people to "be nice"...there's some of it around, but more effort required as a community from what I can see.

The thing is people don't need fixing - you can't fix people. They need to be willing to change themselves before changing the mentality is possible. And even then they have to realize the conclusion themselves.

[Swish]

I agree. I think there's a Grand Canyon sized gap between community attitudes on the forums and in-game sometimes... but overall, from what I heard of EQmac, it was a much healthier place to play and more fun.

What would help players be better human beings on P99?

[ ] Scrap RNF?
[ ] Change the raid scene to be more inclusive for new players/new guilds?
[ ] More community events? (with less bitching about community events and lack of guises etc)
[ ] All of the above?

[Secrets]

[ ] Scrap RNF? This is a good start, it will fuel that toxic environment elsewhere - such as Reddit. New players probably click on the R&F forum and shit bricks at how bad this is.
[ ] Change the raid scene to be more inclusive for new players/new guilds? I believe removing variance would fix that. Same with increasing sim repop frequency. You need to be ready to go, not ready to wait, when a mob spawns.
[ ] More community events? (with less bitching about community events and lack of guises etc) Absolutely, but they have to be for things other than guises.

Stuff that is obtainable ingame right now, but without the farming process, and more importantly, the staff shouldn't have to run these events; they should run themselves. Think of them like a 'temporary quest' that appears much like simulated repops simulate patch days; these would simulate the appearance of guides.
[ ] All of the above? See notes.

[arsenalpow]

Braknar responded to a threat, that's self defense imo. Don't doxx a man's wife and kids, that's fucked up. GG and Sikorsky are the ones that stepped over the line.

[Wisteso]

Once you realize that at least 1 out of 10 people have a serious mental illness/disability/deficiency that will make them seem crazy/selfish/trollish/whatever the world will be easier to deal with.

You cant fix those people - just learn to deal with them.

[Tann]

Braknar responded to a threat, that's self defense imo. Don't doxx a man's wife and kids, that's fucked up. GG and Sikorsky are the ones that stepped over the line.

^^^

[Pringles]

Braknar responded to a threat, that's self defense imo. Don't doxx a man's wife and kids, that's fucked up. GG and Sikorsky are the ones that stepped over the line.

I had nothing to do with RL information being passed around. I have no idea who one or the other is IRL, nor do I want to know. I think its pretty damn ridiculous (as I said over on reddit) that it came down to RL info. Do I have an issue with Braknar? Yes, however I would never, and never have, brought real life into it though.

With that said, I've received some pretty fucked up PMs over on reddit about my family. No game is worth this bullshit / my families safety.

I'm out fellas. Its been a fun 6 years on P99, but I'm done.

[h4tch]

I agree. I think there's a Grand Canyon sized gap between community attitudes on the forums and in-game sometimes... but overall, from what I heard of EQmac, it was a much healthier place to play and more fun.

What would help players be better human beings on P99?

[ ] Scrap RNF?
[ ] Change the raid scene to be more inclusive for new players/new guilds?
[ ] More community events? (with less bitching about community events and lack of guises etc)
[ ] All of the above?

How about let their be RMT, setup a site, and donate the extra cut to server cost/charity. It would cut down on the toxicity of the community, and maybe even the staff. This is like the war on drugs. Braknar in his holy crusade will never win. All you are going to end up with is a bunch of banned pixels. That a gm, may or may not in the future decide to RMT himself.

[Swish]

How about let their be RMT, setup a site, and donate the extra cut to server cost/charity. It would cut down on the toxicity of the community, and maybe even the staff. This is like the war on drugs. Braknar in his holy crusade will never win. All you are going to end up with is a bunch of banned pixels. That a gm, may or may not in the future decide to RMT himself.

It would get P99 shut down because of supposed profiteering off a game that isn't owned by them.

I'm off to play some blackjack, look forward to reading the next 10 pages later on. Hopefully it'll be constructive <3

[Tann]

How about let their be RMT

Daybreak might not like that so much

[Uuruk]

I had nothing to do with RL information being passed around. I have no idea who one or the other is IRL, nor do I want to know. I think its pretty damn ridiculous (as I said over on reddit) that it came down to RL info. Do I have an issue with Braknar? Yes, however I would never, and never have, brought real life into it though.

With that said, I've received some pretty fucked up PMs over on reddit about my family. No game is worth this bullshit / my families safety.

I'm out fellas. Its been a fun 6 years on P99, but I'm done.

Thank god.

Idiot

[h4tch]

It would get P99 shut down because of supposed profiteering off a game that isn't owned by them.

I'm off to play some blackjack, look forward to reading the next 10 pages later on. Hopefully it'll be constructive <3

Donate all the money to charity then, I've never thought about RMT'ing on this server, but it will never go away. There always be individuals with more money then time. So my question to staff would be, What do you hope to accomplish with the bans? I don't see the point.

[indiscriminate_hater]

who are you?

[Tann]

Donate all the money to charity then, I've never thought about RMT'ing on this server, but it will never go away. There always be individuals with more money then time. So my question to staff would be, What do you hope to accomplish with the bans? I don't see the point.

agreed that it will never go away, I would however imagine RMT would be 100 times worse right now if staff never banned people for it.

[maestrom]

I agree. I think there's a Grand Canyon sized gap between community attitudes on the forums and in-game sometimes... but overall, from what I heard of EQmac, it was a much healthier place to play and more fun.

What would help players be better human beings on P99?

[ ] Scrap RNF?
[ ] Change the raid scene to be more inclusive for new players/new guilds?
[ ] More community events? (with less bitching about community events and lack of guises etc)
[ ] All of the above?

Yes.

Yes. Competition is fun, for sure. But it doesn't have to be the only way in the game. Sim-repops/no variance would allow pretty much any raid capable (from a game mechanics standpoint) to get 1 target. And then if they want to compete for the second round of targets, they can.

Sure.

[Wisteso]

Staff could try stop sweeping shit under the rug. I think that'd be a start.

Like what? Why people were banned? Because every game does that.

What is something that's been swept under the rug and why do we "deserve" to know about it? (on this free server that most of us are freeloading from)

[Oleris]

So, maybe in the guide application the staff should remove the RL name information and have only Rogean know it.

[arsenalpow]

Is this serious enough?

http://i.imgur.com/niG0UOR.png

[Bardalicious]

I remember when Secrets abused his position at EQEmu to glean personal information from the account database.

I also remember Secrets trying to dox me when I released a working MQ2 compile for that shitbox of a server that devnoob and image ran.

I also remember Secrets getting booted from staff for said actions and going on a rampage claiming Rogaine was using the antihax to do illegal stuffs.

Forgive me if I don't take the OP at all seriously.

TLDR: Ulterior motives ITT.

[radditsu]

Radditsu for gm

[Pokesan]

Is this serious enough?

http://i.imgur.com/niG0UOR.png

This isn't showing up on the sub for me. What?

[Mus3t11]

ForumQuest gettin' real good again.

Also, if the community wasn't kept in the dark about things then there wouldn't be any issues.

The community is small enough to where people should know the dirty secrets of others. What did Derubael do? Why did Redwjamz get banned? Give the community what they want besides pixels.

inb4 we are staff and don't have to tell you.

[Lu|zSect]

http://i.imgur.com/TrNpTbh.jpg

[radditsu]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LzJEByEfJyc



I assume y'all still can't tag shit as video still.

[Secrets]

I remember when Secrets abused his position at EQEmu to glean personal information from the account database.

I also remember Secrets trying to dox me when I released a working MQ2 compile for that shitbox of a server that devnoob and image ran.

I also remember Secrets getting booted from staff for said actions and going on a rampage claiming Rogaine was using the antihax to do illegal stuffs.

Forgive me if I don't take the OP at all seriously.

TLDR: Ulterior motives ITT.

I even stated in the OP I made some bad decisions.

I was 19 at the time all of that happened but I agree there is no excuse. I've made some bad decisions but I've also made some good ones.

Keep it on topic.

[Llandris]

So, maybe in the guide application the staff should remove the RL name information and have only Rogean know it.

This already exists.

[Secrets]

The many, many players who were banned by Derubael and subsequently found out he was RMT'ing like a fucking pixel fiend? Maybe those peoeple?

Blatant shit like that can endanger the project, especially if it's done behind the administration's back. No one needs to know about it because no one cares what happened. As far as I know, the players that were banned were banned for legitimate reasons and had their characters stripped by the same person.

If anything, more logging needs to be added and more auditing needs to be done behind the scenes, and not made public. I'm glad Derubael is gone because that shit puts all of EQEmulator at risk.

[Lu|zSect]

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/tv/image/1432/72/1432728816248.jpg

[Bardalicious]

The fact that the eqemulator account database got compromised, the fact that personal information was potentially stolen, the fact that accounts were stripped and/or banned because of it....

And the whole thing was kept secret from the community that plays here by those who run it...

Is pretty fucked up. Can you really blame people for wanting a little transparency after learning of something like that?

[Secrets]

The fact that the eqemulator account database got compromised, the fact that personal information was potentially stolen, the fact that accounts were stripped and/or banned because of it....

And the whole thing was kept secret from the community that plays here by those who run it...

Is pretty fucked up. Can you really blame people for wanting a little transparency after learning of something like that?

The breach was announced, and all passwords were reset. See:

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27573

[Mus3t11]

#PrayforP99.

[Secrets]

Yea Secrets, it's completely legit that people who have been banned by a GM who stripped banned accounts and selling the items for real life money. I mean, they should just find another game to play right? It's their fault for getting the attention of Derubael.

You're a joke since your last meltdown. I don't think there's anyone in the Everquest emulator project that has less legitimacy than you.

When I said legitimate bans, I meant they were caught using MacroQuest, RMTing themselves, training another player, or stealing items. You know, legitimate reasons.

[Lu|zSect]

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/tv/image/1426/19/1426196818194.jpg

[Secrets]

Side note, I don't doubt Derubael made decisions in the interest of himself. The guy was caught selling and stripping characters. People do not need to be made examples of. Imagine Rogean making a front news post saying this guy was fired for making profit off of this project.

Daybreak would shut this project down faster than my brain cells disappear reading these forums at times.

[Secrets]

Yea, all of those people must of been crooks. Same when cops arrest black teenagers and men. They must of deserved it. Right?

You're a complete retard.

This is a free server. You're a complete retard if you think you get due process here. You can always ask for your money back.

[Lu|zSect]

http://41.media.tumblr.com/53bbe512d4bd28bd95fcf2be6936f5e8/tumblr_inline_np3kix0xGe1trrv34_540.jpg

[Tann]

Yea, all of those people must of been crooks. Same when cops arrest black teenagers and men. They must of deserved it. Right?

You're a complete retard.

srs or troll???

breaking the rules, RMT/etc, means their crooks. Doesn't matter if they were stripped later by Ephi/Deru

[JackFlash]

Yea, all of those people must of been crooks. Same when cops arrest black teenagers and men. They must of deserved it. Right?

You're a complete retard.

[JackFlash]

rnf heatin up

[Secrets]

srs or troll???

breaking the rules, RMT/etc, means their crooks. Doesn't matter if they were stripped later by Ephi/Deru

His point is actually valid, really - if it's true, he's right. But making assumptions like he is makes him no more 'retarded' than me.

[Bardalicious]

The breach was announced, and all passwords were reset. See:

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27573

When I said kept secret from the community that plays here, I meant here as in on Project 1999. That post was made on eqemu. The players whom fell victim to the strippings/bannings were never rightfully made aware of how it happened, per what Sirken told GG.

[Secrets]

Ah, the old 'this is a free server' routine. Guess we should just shut up and beg for more bans and RMT from staff members!


Yes, it is a free server. That means you adhere to their rules and they can ban you however they see fit. If you beg for a ban and they don't give you it, then you can't complain as you're not paying for the service.

[Secrets]

When I said kept secret from the community that plays here, I meant here as in on Project 1999. That post was made on eqemu. The players whom fell victim to the strippings/bannings were never rightfully made aware of how it happened, per what Sirken told GG.

Well that's fucked up honestly if true - if they weren't told I would tend to agree with you.

That being said, that's more of a P99 matter and not an EQEmulator matter. I don't agree with that decision.

[Secrets]

I work in customer service right now - If someone's account gets compromised, we first verify their identity, and then proceed with telling them 'hey your stuff was compromised, we found these things missing, please confirm that this is the case and we will restore the entitlements to your account'.

That's all that should be done, really, and disclosure of that information to a customer should be crucial.

[Secrets]

1. Never said anybody paid for this server (except individuals who paid staff members for items/plat, you know Amelinda, Derubael etc).

I understand that. I apologize for sarcastic remarks.

2. People have a right to complain about unethical behavior. How about normal people expect a little ethical behavior from people who profess to enforce it? How about if somebody had listened to players who complained about Derubael's behavior, his RMT would of been caught earlier.

I never said they didn't have a right to complain about unethical behavior. The problem is, in these disputes, there is information that can only be reviewed by 'the powers that be'. If someone listened he would've been investigated and nothing would have been found. During Greengrocer's stream he revealed that Derubael was using a method in which Rogean had no logs for.

3. Nobody needs a lesson from some former dev such as yourself who throws tantrums.

Honestly the personal attacks are unwarranted.

[king buzzo]

unban mtb tripper! may the founding fathers prevail!

[portbitch69]

this whole project is rogean and nilbog's playground. enter at your own risk. youre not entitled to anything except the server being online and the content being classic. youre not a customer and shouldnt expect any sort of customer service for anything. some people with power are going to be corrupt, you shouldnt be surprised by this. just be glad you can play this server for years and not be required to drop a single penny in order to play full time.

this is a soup kitchen. wait in line get your free soup and stfu pls. just be happy that its here

[Mus3t11]

this is a soup kitchen. wait in line get your free soup and stfu pls. just be happy that its here


Lol one of these posters.

[Bazia]

Reminder Secret got trolled by some random guy from aimchat and then proceeded to dox and rage at a totally random person that didn't even know who they were.

Rest in piss shitstain.

[Uuruk]

Another thread with a crazy fucking person that used to be staff.

IMAGINE THAT

[Tann]

Reminder Secret got trolled by some random guy from aimchat and then proceeded to dox and rage at a totally random person that didn't even know who they were.

Rest in piss shitstain.

try RED today folks, its not toxic.. nope.. not a bit

[Lu|zSect]

http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.55697970.5694/flat,800x800,075,f.jpg

[Secrets]

Another thread with a crazy fucking person that used to be staff.

IMAGINE THAT

[Lu|zSect]

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130315231955/disney/images/f/f0/Alice-in-Wonderland-1951-alice-in-wonderland-1759032-640-476.jpg

[Secrets]

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130315231955/disney/images/f/f0/Alice-in-Wonderland-1951-alice-in-wonderland-1759032-640-476.jpg


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tQIdfomsbQc/VTBKWuyji9I/AAAAAAAADPk/wSVIR-_iLIk/s1600/The%2BD.jpg

[Lu|zSect]

you're in my d:\ right now via .dll p1999 hax

classy

[George_Costanza]

from what I heard of EQmac, it was a much healthier place to play and more fun.

Let's not build it up into something it wasn't. EQMac had plenty of psychotic basement dwellers and straight up creeps just like p99. There was only 1 healthy guild on the entire server. And even that guild was pretty much humorless, although it had some really good people.

There was literally no economy or ability to use money for anything other than buying mounts, because one person with 10+ active accounts bought up every item on the server and jacked the prices up until it was 3k for a Sarnak Hide Mask. Every trade had to be done via barter. This same auctioneer was obsessed with recruiting for one of the only guilds on the server, a tier-2 guild, and would offer you KEI and ports from his 6-box crew and pretend to be interested in your friendship as a "new community member" while role-playing multiple people from his many accounts, until you committed to applying to the sane guild and he never again responded to a single tell from you again on any of his many personalities.

It was a microcosm of what EQ has always been: a few jolly roleplayers and nostalgiacs with some sense of humor, a lot of mega-nerds, and some institutionalizable psychotics with toy maces IRL who couldn't even come up with passable text conversation. People with 100% raid attendance for 6 years running (literally zero raids missed). The average age was just skewed upward compared to here, and instead of people KSing and being dicks up-front people held grudges and deep inferiority complexes about not being in Temerity and took the game way, way too seriously. I think a lot of the people there were older folks living on disability and losing their minds to loneliness and depression. P99 at least has an economy and you can have a laugh with the people who play it without having to reference pop culture from the J. Edgar Hoover era.

[Raije1000]

How about let their be RMT, setup a site, and donate the extra cut to server cost/charity. It would cut down on the toxicity of the community, and maybe even the staff. This is like the war on drugs. Braknar in his holy crusade will never win. All you are going to end up with is a bunch of banned pixels. That a gm, may or may not in the future decide to RMT himself.

Makin clams off of Daybreak property. Lets allow P99 to come to a close, quickly. Scram.

[feanan]

The problem with the GM's keeping everything in the shadows and not talking about it is two fold.

First, this is a pretty small community. So yeah, nobody cares when WoW player #14986843356 gets banned for something, but its different here.

Second, seems to me pretty much every GM/guide has been busted for doing shady shit. Uthguard with his giving away epics and whatever, Amelinda with her RMT, now Deurable with his RMT, favoritism towards guilds they have characters in, etc etc

I think there needs to be some level of transparency here.

Your server, your rules, I get it...but at the same time the community makes the server

[jcr4990]

Is this serious enough?

http://i.imgur.com/niG0UOR.png

3 BDA Members and 1 BDA Spy in Rampage

Corruption is rampant. BDA is scum.

[Wisteso]

1. Never said anybody paid for this server (except
3. Nobody needs a lesson from some former dev such as yourself who throws tantrums.

ad-hominem (https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem)

[portbitch69]

some people with power are going to be corrupt, you shouldnt be surprised by this.

put that power on a free server which literally has no consequences except you forum questing nerds raging over it. get used to staff members doing shady shit that will happen on any private server of any game

[portbitch69]

plot twist: sirken is plat lord

or is plat lord sirken???

[Pokesan]

do we even know for sure that Secrets actually examined the hack detection DLL in a meaningful way?

like, i know she's pretty and everything, but trusting a beautiful woman to be truthful is a silly thing to do. no offense girl.

[iruinedyourday]

Just want to add that if you play on red99 you're too busy having fun pvping and talking trash to unemployed elf pals to even notice all this was happening.

[Lu|zSect]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/918/406/055.png

[iruinedyourday]

pringles down and coined hehe

[Uuruk]

Pringles is so fucking immersed he is subscribed to two elf sim message boards.

[AzzarTheGod]

I understand the legitimate concerns of the various scandals that took place on P99 recently. Between dsetup.dll, Greengrocer outing Derubael and various information on the staff's methods, and the personal information being flung back and forth, there is a lot of concern about security, and a lot of questions about integrity.


Derubael wasn't outed, everyone knew that.

Ephi was outed, wheres his retired/VIP status? :rolleyes:

[Swish]

I'm putting a guide app in, someone has to keep this project on track.

[Uuruk]

I'm putting a guide app in, someone has to keep this project on track.

Probably not the 2 gif small dick guy. You are literally Sikorsky Jr with a side of GG mixed in. So basically fucking AIDS.

[Swish]

Probably not the 2 gif small dick guy. You are literally Sikorsky Jr with a side of GG mixed in. So basically fucking AIDS.

I'm the knight in shining armor this project needs.

[AzzarTheGod]

With that said, I've received some pretty fucked up PMs over on reddit about my family. No game is worth this bullshit / my families safety.

I'm out fellas. Its been a fun 6 years on P99, but I'm done.

That's Moregan, Eunomia, Derubael, and Sikorsky gone in the same year.

P99 staff turnover is heavy.

[AzzarTheGod]

I'm putting a guide app in, someone has to keep this project on track.

You'll be staff number 5 gone within the same year, because I give you 30 days. When the clock strikes 2016 you'll be in the Moregan, Eunomia, Derubael, Ephi, Sikorsky camp.

Is Braknar going to survive this, any word from him???

[Swish]

I'll crush the petition queue like a paper cup.

[fastboy21]

For ease of reference, can someone please compile a succinct list of all the server staff that have been accused/confirmed of illicit rule violations including RMT, etc.

I mean, I've been here since the very beginning and I still have a hard time keeping it all straight. It must be almost impossible for a new player to catch up on the server history.

In all seriousness, the bottom line: I've played here for years and had a ton of fun. I would have paid to play, because that's what I do as a gamer...and they gave it all to me for free. I have no complaints. Rogean and Nilbog are awesome for doing it for us. I know folks have argued this before, but I really don't think anyone else would have been able to get the server off the ground and keep it together as long as they have.

The RMT? Hacking? Favoritism? etc. all of that stuff is secondary to me because folks have worked HARD for free to keep it as much in the background as possible. All so that a bunch of in-grates can have a forum to air their grievances freely? How about a little gratitude.

[AzzarTheGod]

The breach was announced, and all passwords were reset. See:

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27573

That is not the only intrusion, other intrusions are alleged to have been less of a big deal, and simply swept under the rug. Credibility is zero sorry.

As someone who works in cyber security, I'd guess the DB has been hacked several times since 2009. Just as a matter of statistics. Sorry pal you struck out again.

[iruinedyourday]

uh god has spoken to me personally

[AzzarTheGod]

Rogean and Nilbog are awesome for doing it for us.

All so that a bunch of in-grates can have a forum to air their grievances freely? How about a little gratitude.

This goes without saying. Anyone taken seriously is grateful for the project Rogean and Nilbog have created.

Now back to the topic and Secrets lack of credibility.

[AzzarTheGod]

uh god has spoken to me personally

I could link to a thread from 2013 on project 1999's own official forums right here to finalize and illustrate but I'm a nice guy. Shout out to Tiggles :o huh?

[Millburn]

Secrets you still owe me a Krono bro, Palmer sits at his mailbox waiting for the day it comes in and I don't have the heart to break the news to him. Poor little conjy.

[Secrets]

That is not the only intrusion, other intrusions are alleged to have been less of a big deal, and simply swept under the rug. Credibility is zero sorry.

As someone who works in cyber security, I'd guess the DB has been hacked several times since 2009. Just as a matter of statistics. Sorry pal you struck out again.

Statistics versus reality... hmm, I wonder which one I'd pick.

Now back to the topic and Secrets lack of credibility.

How about just the topic, I have nothing to do with the topic.

[titanshub]

Trying to fight GG's meltdown is like pissing into the wind. People are going to talk about it and I'm not sure there is anything that can be done about that. At a certain point we are all going to have to realize that we are playing a 16 year old elf sim and then go spend some time in the real world for some perspective.

[Whirled]

Hi folks,

I just wanted to take a moment to say something very important. There's been a ton of drama, ex-staff members fighting, current staff members fighting, and other nonsense going on. I'd like to share my take on this.

Little backstory for those who don't know me: I'm Secrets. I develop client fixes, have consulted with Nilbog for help with content, and for a brief stint of time, I was a guide, GM, whatever you to call the CSR position.

Lately, Braknar and Greengrocer did something that I did about 4 years back: They tried to attack players, staff members, and staff members on a personal level for what they thought was the 'good' of the server. I am ashamed to admit at one point in my life I thought these actions were 'for justice'. But the only justice I performed was a self-righteous crusade laced with revenge fueled intentions.

Here's the bitter reality: You're affecting real people when you do these kinds of acts. Not even the 'doxing' stuff; I meant the emotional and physical impact of these actions are in detriment to the server's health and the people behind them. Not just the staff, but the players too.

I learned something by going on one of these 'crusades' and it was the most important thing of all: Integrity is key and if you violate those rules of integrity, you are doomed to become what you hate and you will dig a hole that is hard to get out of on a personal and external level.

This is why Rogean and Nilbog are doing a great job as leaders. It is better for them to say nothing at all than to pander to the community at large. They do not get involved to save their sanity. Not everything needs a statement from 'dear leader' even if they want it. Involving yourself only stresses you and doesn't stop the people that you are trying to stop.

Plus, being less vocal shrouds the staff in secrecy so malicious players and ex-staff have less of a voice so you may continue providing what the average player wants; in this case, Classic EverQuest.

When you use malicious communication - whether it be releasing private information, an insult, or manipulation - you do not achieve the ultimate goal you are trying to do, unless your goal is destruction to begin with.

If you want to see something happen - for example, changes in Project 1999's staff - you should learn to make your own Project 1999 and make it better so you can recreate the project in your image. Trying to destroy something you wish to save (such as Classic EverQuest) can only result in more destruction, as you are acting out of vengeance instead of righteousness.

I understand the legitimate concerns of the various scandals that took place on P99 recently. Between dsetup.dll, Greengrocer outing Derubael and various information on the staff's methods, and the personal information being flung back and forth, there is a lot of concern about security, and a lot of questions about integrity.

If you think you can do the job better than the staff while keeping the spirit of Classic EQ alive, then do it with full integrity and show that you can do it better. Otherwise, continue to enjoy Project 1999 for what it is: Classic EverQuest.
/RNF off

Hello & thank you for all your work, effort & kindness throughout the years on your own & other emu servers. I did log into your server many many moons ago also some years back when I just emu surfed for a day, week, month & moved on to another to check things out. TBH, I originally avoided p99, but after years of playing the others, I gave in. Respectfully, I really cannot comment on much else since I do not know any of you ( or do I? lol). Aside from thanking everyone for being a apart of what I think is one of the greatest games ever made, I too would enjoy seeing more open raids, friendly interactions & just all over fun for everyone.

we now return u to RNF "the early years"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ax-IrfluQ
^

[Xaanka]

Fuck the tinfoil hatting and fuck Secrets' past. He speaks the truth.

[Smedy]

Side note, I don't doubt Derubael made decisions in the interest of himself. The guy was caught selling and stripping characters. People do not need to be made examples of. Imagine Rogean making a front news post saying this guy was fired for making profit off of this project.

Daybreak would shut this project down faster than my brain cells disappear reading these forums at times.

Well at this point i think its in Rogean's best interest to prove otherwise, hearing that Derubael made tens of thousands of dollars, actually he so much money in a small time that paypal contacted rogean cause they tracked the money coming from project1999 domain and rogean owns this domain.

There's so much shady shit on staff these days, everytime it's either an RMT or someone doing shady shit. Looking at the history of this server i am personally no longer comfortable with running everquest and the dll on my work machine due to the scumbag nature of people here including the staff, they are out to get you and they will sell your credit card info on the black market without thinking twice if they caught it.

Hire a professional team to audit the source dode for the antihax dll and have them confirm that it does not have capabilities like capturing browser tabs among other things and everything will be fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpabN2yt84Q

[portbitch69]

you guys think deru paid his taxes on that income?

[Nocsucow]

I don't understand how GM drama/mistakes/ bad calls / favoritism always makes to back to the community. .. If the Gm/guides would just shut the fuck up there would be no harm no foul.Rogean , Nilbog , Sirken has learned that and that's why they will always be around until THEY choose not to be.

[Samsung]

Blatant shit like that can endanger the project, especially if it's done behind the administration's back. No one needs to know about it because no one cares what happened. As far as I know, the players that were banned were banned for legitimate reasons and had their characters stripped by the same person.

If anything, more logging needs to be added and more auditing needs to be done behind the scenes, and not made public. I'm glad Derubael is gone because that shit puts all of EQEmulator at risk.

This is horseshit. Derubael banned my father's warrior that had nothing to do with me. My first banning was justified, my second not so much and was threatened by Derubael himself in a Skype phone conversation or he was going to ban any account I've ever logged onto.

This community deserves justice for Derubael's actions and the players he banned should be released with the exception of my original toons.

[Swish]

Derubael banned my cat's account. He loved to watch the tunnel auction spam while I played elf sim.

[dafier]

I'm putting a guide app in, someone has to keep this project on track.

HA! Nice one.

[wts]

I agree. I think there's a Grand Canyon sized gap between community attitudes on the forums and in-game sometimes... but overall, from what I heard of EQmac, it was a much healthier place to play and more fun.

What would help players be better human beings on P99?

[ ] Scrap RNF?
[ ] Change the raid scene to be more inclusive for new players/new guilds?
[ ] More community events? (with less bitching about community events and lack of guises etc)
[ ] All of the above?

None of the above. Just release Discord and let it run its course, then release the recycle rotation blue server and teams PvP server. This will completely eliminate all congestion issues and stop 99.9% of the antisocial behavior because everyone will be too busy having fun to complain about shit.

Rogean and Nilbog also need to get their shit together when it comes to hiring staff. You guys have made some pathetically awful decisions and it's going to keep coming back to haunt you if you don't start getting your hires right.

[dafier]

People forget themselves or get caught up to much with their feelings that they lose control and do more harm than good. That's what I've seen of recent.

As for blue and the so called problems? There is no problems. I see a healthy environment with people using RnF like it should be.

99% of RnF is not serious. Yes, there is are exceptions.

[dafier]

wow....I am tired.

[Swish]

As for blue and the so called problems? There is no problems.

Nope. No problems. No problems at all.

[Samsung]

Derubael banned my cat's account. He loved to watch the tunnel auction spam while I played elf sim.

Act sarcastic all you want. If it happened to you,you'd have a meltdown.

[Swish]

Act sarcastic all you want. If it happened to you,you'd have a meltdown.

It does seem shitty considering what he did himself.

I wonder how he spent the $$$

[BigLe2e]

This is horseshit. Derubael banned my father's warrior that had nothing to do with me. My first banning was justified, my second not so much and was threatened by Derubael himself in a Skype phone conversation or he was going to ban any account I've ever logged onto.

This community deserves justice for Derubael's actions and the players he banned should be released with the exception of my original toons.

Once a cheater, always a cheater.

[Lu|zSect]

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz249/zibzib200/gifs/dancingweasel.gif

[Stormfists]

plot twist: sirken is plat lord

or is plat lord sirken???

No plot twist there.

Common knowledge.

[Autotune]

Hi folks,

I just wanted to take a moment to say something very important. There's been a ton of drama, ex-staff members fighting, current staff members fighting, and other nonsense going on. I'd like to share my take on this.

Little backstory for those who don't know me: I'm Secrets. I develop client fixes, have consulted with Nilbog for help with content, and for a brief stint of time, I was a guide, GM, whatever you to call the CSR position.

Lately, Braknar and Greengrocer did something that I did about 4 years back: They tried to attack players, staff members, and staff members on a personal level for what they thought was the 'good' of the server. I am ashamed to admit at one point in my life I thought these actions were 'for justice'. But the only justice I performed was a self-righteous crusade laced with revenge fueled intentions.

Here's the bitter reality: You're affecting real people when you do these kinds of acts. Not even the 'doxing' stuff; I meant the emotional and physical impact of these actions are in detriment to the server's health and the people behind them. Not just the staff, but the players too.

I learned something by going on one of these 'crusades' and it was the most important thing of all: Integrity is key and if you violate those rules of integrity, you are doomed to become what you hate and you will dig a hole that is hard to get out of on a personal and external level.

This is why Rogean and Nilbog are doing a great job as leaders. It is better for them to say nothing at all than to pander to the community at large. They do not get involved to save their sanity. Not everything needs a statement from 'dear leader' even if they want it. Involving yourself only stresses you and doesn't stop the people that you are trying to stop.

Plus, being less vocal shrouds the staff in secrecy so malicious players and ex-staff have less of a voice so you may continue providing what the average player wants; in this case, Classic EverQuest.

When you use malicious communication - whether it be releasing private information, an insult, or manipulation - you do not achieve the ultimate goal you are trying to do, unless your goal is destruction to begin with.

If you want to see something happen - for example, changes in Project 1999's staff - you should learn to make your own Project 1999 and make it better so you can recreate the project in your image. Trying to destroy something you wish to save (such as Classic EverQuest) can only result in more destruction, as you are acting out of vengeance instead of righteousness.

I understand the legitimate concerns of the various scandals that took place on P99 recently. Between dsetup.dll, Greengrocer outing Derubael and various information on the staff's methods, and the personal information being flung back and forth, there is a lot of concern about security, and a lot of questions about integrity.

If you think you can do the job better than the staff while keeping the spirit of Classic EQ alive, then do it with full integrity and show that you can do it better. Otherwise, continue to enjoy Project 1999 for what it is: Classic EverQuest.

Been a long time, good to see you still around

[cdawgz28]

Starburst is on rampage someone tank it

[Bboboo]

I'm here for the tranny porn.

[Uuruk]

Which one is secrets

[Samsung]

Which one is secrets

The cute 1 from philly

[Lu|zSect]

it's all ogre now

[Samsung]

This is horseshit. Derubael banned my father's warrior that had nothing to do with me. My first banning was justified, my second not so much and was threatened by Derubael himself in a Skype phone conversation or he was going to ban any account I've ever logged onto.

This community deserves justice for Derubael's actions and the players he banned should be released with the exception of my original toons.

Amalinda bannings were reversed so I never understood why Derubael ones weren't. You guys lost a good 45 drivers from red and that's a lot. I'm sure blue was even worse.

Free my father!!!

[Cecily]

I like to think a good number of those bans were legit regardless of him going insane after the fact. Miss you still, Gotrocks.

[Redi]

p.s. secrets got fired for abusing his eq emu db access to try and "dox" someone he didn't like and ended up exposing the real life information of some random unsuspecting person

aka idiot

c ya

[AzzarTheGod]

Amalinda bannings were reversed so I never understood why Derubael ones weren't. You guys lost a good 45 drivers from red and that's a lot. I'm sure blue was even worse.

Free my father!!!

Its too much work for them. Better to have possibly and likely some illegitimate bans than to put any staff resources into the Derubael crime spree bans.

[Swish]

Amalinda bannings were reversed so I never understood why Derubael ones weren't. You guys lost a good 45 drivers from red and that's a lot. I'm sure blue was even worse.

Free my father!!!

Blue seems to be 500ish down on what it was.

[AzzarTheGod]

Blue seems to be 500ish down on what it was.

O rly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2PT5TshLvo

[Swish]

O rly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2PT5TshLvo

"oh man, not again"... sums up that link. Love EQ, don't love rap music (sadly) :o

[Jimjam]

I like to think a good number of those bans were legit regardless of him going insane after the fact. Miss you still, Gotrocks.

Perhaps the bans were legitimate bans. He'd then strip those accounts and use the loot to make a RMT trap and create a new wave of legitimate bans (well, as legitimate as honeypotting can be).

Perhaps there was a RMT Fungi of Doooom that got passed all the way down the ban chain, repeatedly being RMTed, banned, stripped and RMTed!

[Jimjam]

Oh, and Secrets flipped out, but I think he actually learnt from the experience. His mistakes became learning opportunities!

[Jimjam]

*a wild PC Principal appears*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ZQED7bLhw

My mistake! *she her.

Sorry!

[Tibador]

Secrets is unstable so much drama revolves around him/her that it does not surprise me anymore when he/she loses it.

[Samsung]

Bump for Justice!

[Secrets]

Oh, and Secrets flipped out, but I think he actually learnt from the experience. His mistakes became learning opportunities!

Yeah, I honestly learned a lot. I did a lot of stupid shit I am not proud of but you have rememeber I never really held a job back then, was unemployed and confused in life, etc.

Looking back on it I was young and dumb. But I learned a shit ton about what NOT to do in the real world without damaging too many people.

[Stormfists]

How anyone 19 years old gets to the point of authority over 2,000 people is beyond me.

Should come with a minimum experience requirement...

[Swish]

How old were we all when we started playing EQ and being officers of guilds? ;)

[Secrets]

How anyone 19 years old gets to the point of authority over 2,000 people is beyond me.

Should come with a minimum experience requirement...

EQEmulator isn't a business. It's an emulated server, which up until 2009 or so was uncharted territory. Very few people possessed the skills to actually contribute to these projects.

I'm 24. I learned a lot of shit. And to be honest, 2,000 CCU is child's play compared to some other private server fuckups. You want to see shit go bad? Go check out WoW private server drama (Burlex and such)

[AzzarTheGod]

I'm 24. I learned a lot of shit. And to be honest, 2,000 CCU is child's play compared to some other private server fuckups. You want to see shit go bad? Go check out WoW private server drama (Burlex and such)

This is true.

[maerilith]

plz do not download all the kitten pix off my moms laptop while i play EQ

thx.

p.s. secrets, mature people dont get sucked into the drama, this forum is full of trolls that will latch on to any little thing and troll aggressivey and meanly just because they can, it speeks volumes about a vocal minority, and rogean and nilbog should get a meddle for withstanding it all.

P.S. I am evil as fuck and recntly got banned for good reason, so yeah.

[maerilith]

*mettle? english is not my 1st language.

[Sorn]

*mettle? english is not my 1st language.

Medal

(mettle = fortitude, bravery; meddle = stick your nose where it doesn't belong or interfere with someone's plans/actions)

[maerilith]

Medal

(mettle = fortitude, bravery; meddle = stick your nose where it doesn't belong or interfere with someone's plans/actions)

Thx!

http://i.imgur.com/wN2uyv8.gif

[Spyder73]

TLDR

WTB nudes

[Redi]

This is horseshit. Derubael banned my father's warrior that had nothing to do with me. My first banning was justified, my second not so much and was threatened by Derubael himself in a Skype phone conversation or he was going to ban any account I've ever logged onto.

This community deserves justice for Derubael's actions and the players he banned should be released with the exception of my original toons.

You rmted a warrior epic on that warrior and keep pretending it was your "dads" character for some kind of sympathy unban.

Enjoy the ban loser.

Ps secrets is creepy/abused dB rights/enjoy the firing.

[NizmerThafen]

I appreciate all the hard work many have done to establish and run this server. Knowing there can be a lot of stress and friction involved in this process, I've made it a point not to ever contribute to that stress. I'm here to have fun and enjoy classic EQ.