Skotos the KSer

[Grokk]

I was waiting my turn in line for the elder caves in Wakening lands like any respectable player would. As soon as I get the camp a necro, Skoto comes up and starts talking about how we arent clearing the camp, literally 1 min after getting the camp. I tell him I just got done buffing the guy that was there before and I was medding. A few minutes after that he runs in and starts pulling some mobs off the back wall we had not gotten to yet. I ask him why he is KSing us, we were obviously at the camp and killing mobs, and he said we took to long and it was his camp. He is currently pulling from out camp without abandon and it being 5:30 AM there are no GM's responding to petitions. I wanted everyone to know what an outstanding player Skotos is. He refused to tell me his guild, I assume he is either ashamed of it or he does not want people to associate his poor behavior with his guild.

[Swish]

/guildstatus with him targeted, or /guildstatus Skotos will give you his guild.

If only you could have pvp'd him and kept the camp, my condolences.

[Skotos]

Hahaha, they left 3 mobs up in cave for over 40 minutes. I told them they weren't keeping down spawns and to call in another guildy, they told me to fuck off essentially, I waited another 5 minutes, mobs were still up, I started killing. I mean, if I'm wrong I'll be the first one to apologize, but I thought the rules were if you don't have the kill force to keep down spawns camp is forfeit. Anyway, I'm roleplay and unguilded but these guys are pretty newbie. Nothing against BDA but ya'lls 55 shaman and a 55 rogue weren't keeping down the spawns in cave. Shaman wasn't even dispelling DS and rogue was just suiciding, was pretty sad.

[Swish]

Okay, not sure if this is a troll post now that they were suddenly BDA... but if true I'm not surprised.

It's okay though, despite an encyclopedia of a "code of conduct" they don't kick people for stealing camps. (search: Snaj, for an example)

[Phantasm]

Because we didn't kick drunk cousin Snaj from the family we are scumbags.

QQ, beads so rare I don't Blane you for KSing. Scheduling BDA raid for holgresh cave as we speak

[Swish]

Guy tries to lawyer his way into a camp and gets caught on camera. Perfect opportunity to drag yourselves out of the gutter and kick him...but by not kicking him you're giving the green light to your members to do whatever/whenever.

Who runs that clown show anyway? rofl

[Skotos]

Yeah, lol, I've got BDA up my ass sideways in this cave camp. Xentho is just having a total meltdown, the chat logs are... too funny.

[Skotos]

At least it's taking 3 of them to deal with one necro.

[maskedmelon]

I am confused. The people at the camp were BDA no? And Skotos is not BDA yes?

[arsenalpow]

Using the powers of context clues I have discerned that a BDA member was waiting in line for the camp. He was buffing the guy that was leaving the camp and Skotos decided that the BDA member was taking too long so he rushed in and decided it was his camp now. Apparently BDA called in reinforcements.

This would never happen on red.

[Kekephee]

I like Skotos, I was behind him in line for the camp one time and we got to chattin'

[Spyder73]

TLDR - BDA incapable of holding Elder Cave, caught in death loop now and needs an adult to help

[Skotos]

I mean, I'll leave this here for all RnFs to judge. Am I evil? If I am, was I within the rules? If I was breaking any rules I'll apologize and eat crow. I'll be back on tomorrow to read feedback and eat shit if I have to.:

*Note... I sat in cave for about 5 minutes before even saying anything, they were just resting. The same 3 backwall mobs were up this entire time.*

Line 166759: [Fri Nov 13 04:15:50 2015] You told Xetho, 'did ya'll just die?'
Line 166768: [Fri Nov 13 04:18:25 2015] Xetho's skin ignites.
Line 166774: [Fri Nov 13 04:18:27 2015] You told Xetho, 'doesn't look like you're keeping spawns down'
Line 166791: [Fri Nov 13 04:18:44 2015] Xetho tells you, 'we just started'
Line 166802: [Fri Nov 13 04:19:10 2015] You told Xetho, 'you know if those things are up longer than 14 minutes somoene can start killing them, right?'
Line 166804: [Fri Nov 13 04:19:12 2015] Xetho is covered in flames.
Line 166810: [Fri Nov 13 04:20:29 2015] You told Xetho, 'i mean that's their respawn time'
Line 166811: [Fri Nov 13 04:20:49 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i dunno man im tryin to do camp'
Line 166813: [Fri Nov 13 04:20:59 2015] Xetho tells you, 'dude left with me almost oom from buffing him'
Line 166814: [Fri Nov 13 04:21:05 2015] Xetho tells you, 'trying to get mana'
Line 166815: [Fri Nov 13 04:21:35 2015] You told Xetho, 'i mean, dems da rules, i'd get another friend out here to help you guys out, because that mob that respawned has been up for 4 minutes now lol'
Line 166816: [Fri Nov 13 04:21:36 2015] Xetho tells you, 'if it doesnt work out its your camp so lemme try to do this'
Line 166818: [Fri Nov 13 04:22:20 2015] You told Xetho, 'I don't know if I can stay on long enough to do camp, tbh, but I'd give you a heads up on kill rate'
Line 166819: [Fri Nov 13 04:22:34 2015] Xetho tells you, 'we literally just started'
Line 166821: [Fri Nov 13 04:22:42 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i have not been 20&PCT; mana since'
Line 166831: [Fri Nov 13 04:23:56 2015] Xetho feels a bit dispelled.
Line 166838: [Fri Nov 13 04:24:22 2015] Xetho is lacerated by steel.
Line 166843: [Fri Nov 13 04:24:30 2015] Xetho is lacerated by steel.
Line 166848: [Fri Nov 13 04:24:49 2015] Xetho is covered in flames.
Line 166853: [Fri Nov 13 04:25:11 2015] Xetho looks dead.
Line 166892: [Fri Nov 13 04:28:56 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 166917: [Fri Nov 13 04:31:57 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 166942: [Fri Nov 13 04:34:18 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 167064: [Fri Nov 13 04:45:18 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 167716: [Fri Nov 13 04:53:37 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i petitioned your KSing'
Line 167723: [Fri Nov 13 04:53:46 2015] You told Xetho, 'I havne't KS'd but you just tried to there'
Line 167724: [Fri Nov 13 04:53:57 2015] Xetho tells you, 'we are at this camp'
Line 167727: [Fri Nov 13 04:54:07 2015] Xetho tells you, 'and we killing stuff , the camp is clear'
Line 167728: [Fri Nov 13 04:54:15 2015] Xetho tells you, 'kthxbye'
Line 167730: [Fri Nov 13 04:54:17 2015] You told Xetho, 'you weren't holding this camp, I waited 40 minutes for you guys to clear all 8 mobs, that's 2 full respawns'
Line 167731: [Fri Nov 13 04:54:28 2015] Xetho tells you, 'camp looks clear to me'
Line 167733: [Fri Nov 13 04:54:35 2015] You told xetho, 'more than enough time for you to break it in'
Line 167734: [Fri Nov 13 04:54:46 2015] Xetho tells you, 'we had camp, you started trying to KS'
Line 167736: [Fri Nov 13 04:55:02 2015] You told Xetho, 'No. You were trying to hold a camp that you couldn't for over 40 minutes, so I took it.'
Line 167740: [Fri Nov 13 04:55:26 2015] Xetho tells you, 'talk to virago'
Line 167748: [Fri Nov 13 04:55:38 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i am petitioning your KSing'
Line 167750: [Fri Nov 13 04:55:49 2015] Xetho tells you, 'I do not like people who KS'
Line 167751: [Fri Nov 13 04:55:52 2015] You told Xetho, 'petition away. This is my camp'
Line 167752: [Fri Nov 13 04:55:57 2015] Xetho tells you, 'no, it is not'
Line 167757: [Fri Nov 13 04:56:02 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i do not see how you feelthat'
Line 167827: [Fri Nov 13 04:57:30 2015] Xetho tells you, 'what guild are you in'
Line 167887: [Fri Nov 13 05:01:16 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i really do not understand your behavior, you better believe im gonna find out what guild you are in'
Line 167888: [Fri Nov 13 05:01:47 2015] You told Xetho, 'You weren't able to maintain camp, I waited more than enough time to demonstrate that fact.'
Line 167889: [Fri Nov 13 05:01:59 2015] Xetho tells you, 'we are maintaining camp, you are KSing'
Line 167890: [Fri Nov 13 05:02:09 2015] You told Xetho, 'Nope, you had mobs up for over 40 minutes'
Line 167893: [Fri Nov 13 05:02:15 2015] You told Xetho, 'that's twice the respawn time'
Line 167909: [Fri Nov 13 05:02:24 2015] You told Xetho, 'and then some'
Line 167916: [Fri Nov 13 05:02:27 2015] Xetho tells you, 'camp looks clear to me'
Line 167930: [Fri Nov 13 05:02:35 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you are sitting in my camp KSing my mobs'
Line 167934: [Fri Nov 13 05:02:43 2015] You told Xetho, 'Just let the guides/gms deal with it'
Line 167937: [Fri Nov 13 05:02:48 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i waited for the camp'
Line 167938: [Fri Nov 13 05:02:53 2015] Xetho tells you, 'and here you are, looking like a fool'
Line 167941: [Fri Nov 13 05:03:08 2015] You told Xetho, 'well, sticks and stones man'
Line 167946: [Fri Nov 13 05:03:41 2015] Xetho tells you, 'lol, words of a little sissy girl'
Line 167947: [Fri Nov 13 05:03:50 2015] You told Xetho, 'Guess so'
Line 167949: [Fri Nov 13 05:03:57 2015] Xetho tells you, 'yeah you look like a little sissy girl'
Line 167961: [Fri Nov 13 05:04:13 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i smell it'
Line 167965: [Fri Nov 13 05:04:20 2015] You told Xetho, 'there's nothing wrong'
Line 167968: [Fri Nov 13 05:04:24 2015] You told Xetho, 'with being a girl'
Line 167987: [Fri Nov 13 05:04:47 2015] Xetho tells you, 'we all petitioned you, for KSing, and i will post something in the forums about you being a dirty little KSer'
Line 167999: [Fri Nov 13 05:04:59 2015] You told Xetho, 'Sticks and stones man'
Line 168004: [Fri Nov 13 05:05:10 2015] Xetho tells you, 'we didnt have a couple mobs killed in camp and you start KSing? lol'
Line 168005: [Fri Nov 13 05:05:22 2015] You told Xetho, 'You didn't have 3 mobs killed for over 40 minutes. Make sure you include that in your post'
Line 168006: [Fri Nov 13 05:05:34 2015] Xetho tells you, 'aye you will be exposed as the little ks'er that you are i have no respect for things like you'
Line 168015: [Fri Nov 13 05:05:49 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you are scum'
Line 168019: [Fri Nov 13 05:05:54 2015] Xetho tells you, 'go play wow'
Line 168027: [Fri Nov 13 05:06:01 2015] Xetho tells you, 'like the scum that you are'
Line 168160: [Fri Nov 13 05:08:08 2015] Xetho is too far away to inspect. Get closer.
Line 168161: [Fri Nov 13 05:08:09 2015] Xetho regards you indifferently -- he appears to be quite formidable.
Line 168197: [Fri Nov 13 05:10:41 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i hope you get banned'
Line 168198: [Fri Nov 13 05:10:50 2015] Xetho tells you, 'really REALLY bad'
Line 168199: [Fri Nov 13 05:11:11 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i hope to never see you again on this server, people like you, make this server worse'
Line 168200: [Fri Nov 13 05:11:27 2015] Xetho tells you, 'people like you, ruin everquest'
Line 168233: [Fri Nov 13 05:11:53 2015] Xetho tells you, 'thats a KS'
Line 168269: [Fri Nov 13 05:12:03 2015] You told Xetho, 'nah i had aggro'
Line 168277: [Fri Nov 13 05:12:07 2015] Xetho tells you, 'not at all'
Line 168287: [Fri Nov 13 05:12:09 2015] You told Xetho, 'and it's my camp'
Line 168288: [Fri Nov 13 05:12:16 2015] Xetho tells you, 'it is not your camp at all'
Line 168295: [Fri Nov 13 05:12:42 2015] You told Xetho, 'look i'm just following the rules, ya'll couldn't maintain camp'
Line 168296: [Fri Nov 13 05:12:54 2015] You told Xetho, 'I feel pretty confident I was well within the rules to step in.'
Line 168297: [Fri Nov 13 05:13:15 2015] Xetho tells you, 'nah we maintained camp'
Line 168298: [Fri Nov 13 05:13:22 2015] You told Xetho, 'If I'm wrong, well, then I'm wrong. But the fact remains ya'll hadn't cleared this room for over 40 minutes and had respawns twice.'
Line 168299: [Fri Nov 13 05:13:31 2015] Xetho tells you, 'thats wrong, thanks bye'
Line 168300: [Fri Nov 13 05:13:32 2015] You told Xetho, 'And you didn't even get close, you had 3 remaining up the entire ime'
Line 168301: [Fri Nov 13 05:13:53 2015] You told Xetho, 'I mean, you can deny it, but I don't know what else to say.'
Line 168340: [Fri Nov 13 05:14:34 2015] Xetho tells you, 'its our camp, we petitioned you are KSing us'
Line 168352: [Fri Nov 13 05:14:47 2015] You told Xetho, 'That's fine.'
Line 168365: [Fri Nov 13 05:14:56 2015] Xetho tells you, 'and im not letting this slide, i will do my utmost to see you banned, for being the piece of trash that you are'
Line 168410: [Fri Nov 13 05:15:14 2015] You told Xetho, 'Well, I guess that's what you have to do I don't know'
Line 168421: [Fri Nov 13 05:15:21 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i dislike things like you immensely, i cannot describe it'
Line 168453: [Fri Nov 13 05:15:44 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i wish i could speak to you in person, i really do'
Line 168455: [Fri Nov 13 05:15:55 2015] You told Xetho, 'calm down.'
Line 168457: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:11 2015] Xetho tells you, '/smile'
Line 168459: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:20 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i bet you are used to having people pick on you though?/'
Line 168461: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:24 2015] Xetho tells you, 'a life time of that?'
Line 168462: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:29 2015] Xetho tells you, 'im sorry to hear that'
Line 168465: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:42 2015] Xetho tells you, 'must suck to not have anyone like you'
Line 168475: [Fri Nov 13 05:17:23 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i bet girls dont like you either, that must be hard'
Line 168495: [Fri Nov 13 05:17:36 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you know its not the size of the boat, its the motion in the ocean'
Line 168533: [Fri Nov 13 05:18:03 2015] Xetho tells you, 'keep going strong buddy! one day!'
Line 168716: [Fri Nov 13 05:20:55 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i will do my very best to call you out as the sissy KSer that you are =) i gotta loud ass mouth btw'
Line 168720: [Fri Nov 13 05:21:11 2015] Xetho makes a rude gesture at Skotos.
Line 168728: [Fri Nov 13 05:21:30 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you made the wrong enemy tonight'
Line 168746: [Fri Nov 13 05:22:05 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you are my new favorite person'
Line 168752: [Fri Nov 13 05:22:15 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 168766: [Fri Nov 13 05:22:29 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 168785: [Fri Nov 13 05:23:17 2015] **A Magic Die is rolled by Xetho.
Line 169082: [Fri Nov 13 05:35:27 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 169166: [Fri Nov 13 05:37:39 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 169170: [Fri Nov 13 05:37:45 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 169199: [Fri Nov 13 05:38:30 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you meet any girls yet?'
Line 169224: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:17 2015] Xetho tells you, 'oh another KS?'
Line 169239: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:27 2015] You told Xetho, 'I hit that first'
Line 169241: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:31 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you did not'
Line 169242: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:35 2015] You told Xetho, 'yeah i did lol'
Line 169248: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:40 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i saw when you tried to'
Line 169252: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:43 2015] Xetho tells you, 'but you failed'
Line 169260: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:48 2015] Xetho tells you, 'like most things in your life i am sure'
Line 169263: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:51 2015] Xetho tells you, 'its ok'
Line 169283: [Fri Nov 13 05:40:04 2015] Xetho tells you, 'not everyone can be a winner! you are just one of the unlucky few'
Line 169296: [Fri Nov 13 05:40:12 2015] Xetho tells you, 'born to be a failure!'
Line 169339: [Fri Nov 13 05:41:22 2015] Xetho tells you, 'its ok, so what exactly did your parents hate about you? or is the list too long?'
Line 169341: [Fri Nov 13 05:41:32 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you can tell me, we are friends'
Line 169342: [Fri Nov 13 05:41:46 2015] Xetho tells you, 'was it that you werent very good at sports? or anything?'
Line 169345: [Fri Nov 13 05:42:13 2015] Xetho tells you, 'because you were "different" ? or "special"?'
Line 169353: [Fri Nov 13 05:43:15 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Xetho <Bregan D`Aerth>
Line 169355: [Fri Nov 13 05:43:18 2015] Xetho tells you, 'cmon man im here to help'
Line 169357: [Fri Nov 13 05:43:24 2015] Xetho tells you, 'im a good listener'
Line 169359: [Fri Nov 13 05:44:12 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you arent much of a talker eh?'
Line 169360: [Fri Nov 13 05:44:16 2015] Xetho tells you, 'im tryin to be your friend'
Line 169361: [Fri Nov 13 05:44:23 2015] Xetho tells you, 'and here you are giving me the cold shoulder'
Line 169363: [Fri Nov 13 05:44:43 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i can help you get past your problems man! just have faith!'
Line 169367: [Fri Nov 13 05:45:32 2015] Xetho tells you, 'so whats up whats your favorite color'
Line 169380: [Fri Nov 13 05:48:27 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 169386: [Fri Nov 13 05:48:53 2015] Xetho tells you, 'hows the camp look to you boss? it look cleared?'
Line 169387: [Fri Nov 13 05:49:38 2015] Xetho tells you, 'im starting to think you dont like me, i am kinda upset about that, im trying to help you !'
Line 169390: [Fri Nov 13 05:49:59 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you need a hug man?'
Line 169392: [Fri Nov 13 05:50:08 2015] Xetho hugs Skotos.
Line 169393: [Fri Nov 13 05:50:12 2015] Xetho tells you, 'there yago'
Line 169394: [Fri Nov 13 05:50:44 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:17:50 2015] You told Xetho, 'did ya'll just die?''
Line 169398: [Fri Nov 13 05:51:23 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:18:27 2015] You told Xetho, 'doesn't look like you're keeping spawns down''
Line 169399: [Fri Nov 13 05:51:37 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:18:44 2015] Xetho tells you, 'we just started''
Line 169400: [Fri Nov 13 05:51:54 2015] You told Xetho, '[Fri Nov 13 04:19:10 2015] You told Xetho, 'you know if those things are up longer than 14 minutes somoene can start killing them, right?''
Line 169400: [Fri Nov 13 05:51:54 2015] You told Xetho, '[Fri Nov 13 04:19:10 2015] You told Xetho, 'you know if those things are up longer than 14 minutes somoene can start killing them, right?''
Line 169401: [Fri Nov 13 05:51:59 2015] Xetho tells you, 'dang man doesnt look like you are clearing camp?'
Line 169402: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:09 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:19:10 2015] You told Xetho, 'you know if those things are up longer than 14 minutes somoene can start killing them, right?''
Line 169403: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:23 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:20:49 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i dunno man im tryin to do camp''
Line 169404: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:28 2015] Xetho tells you, 'oh looky there! thats my name!'
Line 169405: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:36 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:20:59 2015] Xetho tells you, 'dude left with me almost oom from buffing him' [Fri Nov 13 04:21:05 2015] Xetho tells you, 'trying to get mana''
Line 169405: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:36 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:20:59 2015] Xetho tells you, 'dude left with me almost oom from buffing him' [Fri Nov 13 04:21:05 2015] Xetho tells you, 'trying to get mana''
Line 169406: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:44 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i thought you were ignoring me'
Line 169408: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:49 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 169409: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:54 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 169410: [Fri Nov 13 05:53:02 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:21:35 2015] You told Xetho, 'i mean, dems da rules, i'd get another friend out here to help you guys out, because that mob that respawned has been up for 4 minutes now lol''
Line 169413: [Fri Nov 13 05:53:13 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 169415: [Fri Nov 13 05:53:19 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:21:36 2015] Xetho tells you, 'if it doesnt work out its your camp so lemme try to do this''
Line 169437: [Fri Nov 13 05:54:20 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 169443: [Fri Nov 13 05:54:26 2015] Xetho's skin ignites.
Line 169446: [Fri Nov 13 05:54:30 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 169462: [Fri Nov 13 05:54:40 2015] Xetho regains concentration and continues casting.
Line 169472: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:18 2015] Xetho says out of character, 'elder cave'
Line 169477: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:51 2015] Xetho tells you, 'you got some kinda tell besides that? maybe the one i said i was medding? because we had literally just goten camp?'
Line 169480: [Fri Nov 13 05:56:02 2015] Xetho tells you, 'cause so far, dont see much of anything'

[Skotos]

And my proxy argument with Teahupoo who seemed decent enough:

Line 12735: [Wed Oct 14 15:35:07 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Teahupoo <Bregan D`Aerth>
Line 51214: [Fri Oct 16 05:48:17 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Teahupoo <Bregan D`Aerth>
Line 168351: [Fri Nov 13 05:14:38 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'hey man'
Line 168354: [Fri Nov 13 05:14:49 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'what's up?'
Line 168361: [Fri Nov 13 05:14:53 2015] [60 Crusader] Teahupoo (Half Elf) <Bregan D`Aerth> ZONE: qeytoqrg
Line 168405: [Fri Nov 13 05:15:11 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'can you do me a favor and stop trying to steal camps? they have been there a while'
Line 168442: [Fri Nov 13 05:15:37 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I'm not stealing a camp. They sat here for 40 minutes and couldn't clear cave. I saw respawns twice and the same 3 mobs stayed up'
Line 168454: [Fri Nov 13 05:15:47 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I honestly don't know what you want me to say'
Line 168456: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:01 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'go find a solo mob to farm?'
Line 168458: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:13 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'So, the person who can actually clear the cave needs to go find a solo mob'
Line 168460: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:23 2015] You told teahupoo, 'when the ones who can't, could deal wiht 3'
Line 168463: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:33 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'there are like 11 mobs.. if they cant kill al 11 tough shit'
Line 168464: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:38 2015] Teahupoo tells you, '8 is most of the camp'
Line 168466: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:47 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'yeah I know, but that's not the camp'
Line 168467: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:49 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'you are just pissing people off to piss them off'
Line 168468: [Fri Nov 13 05:16:56 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I really am not.'
Line 168469: [Fri Nov 13 05:17:04 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I told them, hey, you guys aren't clearing camp'
Line 168471: [Fri Nov 13 05:17:12 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'you really are and don't realize it...'
Line 168511: [Fri Nov 13 05:17:47 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'big difference between making a deal with them to kill the spawns they cantl.. and being a jerk and telling them to F off and kill it anyway'
Line 168550: [Fri Nov 13 05:18:09 2015] [60 Crusader] Teahupoo (Half Elf) <Bregan D`Aerth> ZONE: qeytoqrg
Line 168586: [Fri Nov 13 05:18:51 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'There is a big difference. They were uninterested in anything i had to say about them being unable to kill spawns.'
Line 168587: [Fri Nov 13 05:19:02 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I believe Virago's exact wods'
Line 168595: [Fri Nov 13 05:19:17 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'words were "we'll send you a tell when we're done"'
Line 168601: [Fri Nov 13 05:19:31 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'then they are not cool with you sitting in their camp and you should respect that'
Line 168604: [Fri Nov 13 05:19:36 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'When I pointed out that they weren't able to keep camp cleared'
Line 168642: [Fri Nov 13 05:20:20 2015] You told teahupoo, 'I mean, if someone can't hold a camp, they forfeit it right?'
Line 168675: [Fri Nov 13 05:20:35 2015] You told teahupoo, 'I saw a post the other day regarding puppets in PoM that had this same thing happen'
Line 168682: [Fri Nov 13 05:20:39 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'killing 9 outa 11 mobs isnt holding a camp? wrong'
Line 168710: [Fri Nov 13 05:20:50 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'then go back to PoM'
Line 168715: [Fri Nov 13 05:20:54 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'no, killing 5 out of 8'
Line 168717: [Fri Nov 13 05:20:55 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'and stop fucking with people'
Line 168721: [Fri Nov 13 05:21:16 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'so if you are at a camp and something respawns , you have to kill it within 3 seconds? wrong'
Line 168723: [Fri Nov 13 05:21:19 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'stop being a dick'
Line 168732: [Fri Nov 13 05:21:37 2015] You told Teahupoo, '40 minutes isn't 3 seconds'
Line 168740: [Fri Nov 13 05:21:55 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'can we agree 3 seconds isn't 40 minutes?'
Line 168767: [Fri Nov 13 05:22:32 2015] You told teahupoo, 'like, say you didn't know anything about these two people and you were told'
Line 168774: [Fri Nov 13 05:22:43 2015] You told teahupoo, 'by a friend "Hey these guys can't hold this camp for over 40 minutes."'
Line 168776: [Fri Nov 13 05:22:48 2015] You told teahupoo, 'your suggestion would be what? '
Line 168783: [Fri Nov 13 05:23:14 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'i find it hard to believe that those 2 cant kill all the mobs'
Line 168787: [Fri Nov 13 05:23:20 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'i can almost do it as a pally with like no dps'
Line 168791: [Fri Nov 13 05:23:23 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Seriously, I totally believe it too'
Line 168794: [Fri Nov 13 05:23:32 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'but sadly they couldn't'
Line 168798: [Fri Nov 13 05:23:43 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'so don't be a dick, rub it in their face and let them try and learn'
Line 168812: [Fri Nov 13 05:24:04 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I I literally let them try'
Line 168817: [Fri Nov 13 05:24:10 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'for the better part of an entire hour'
Line 168823: [Fri Nov 13 05:24:21 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'there are 3 mobs they could camp outside that spawn at the same rate as 5 in here'
Line 168831: [Fri Nov 13 05:24:29 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'all within the same area that two people could hold down'
Line 168841: [Fri Nov 13 05:24:40 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'am i really going to have to waste my entire day sitting in the camp pulling mobs so guildies dont get hassled?'
Line 168842: [Fri Nov 13 05:24:46 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Nothing about this was me rolling up in here throwing my weight around.'
Line 168843: [Fri Nov 13 05:24:47 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'cmon man'
Line 168844: [Fri Nov 13 05:25:03 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'just go do something else and lets stop dealing with stupid crap'
Line 168845: [Fri Nov 13 05:25:05 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Hey man, if you want to come in on the wrong side of the issue that's fine. I'm not going to hld it against you helping friends'
Line 168846: [Fri Nov 13 05:25:22 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'it shouldnt come down to that'
Line 168847: [Fri Nov 13 05:25:42 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'You're right, it shouldn't'
Line 168848: [Fri Nov 13 05:25:48 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'the kill force they had wasn't sufficient enough to hold camp'
Line 168849: [Fri Nov 13 05:25:51 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'it's literally cut and dry'
Line 168850: [Fri Nov 13 05:25:58 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'if you can solo that much shit.. why bother with 2 mobs that other people are trying to kill?'
Line 168851: [Fri Nov 13 05:25:58 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I told them to invite more people out to help them hjold it down'
Line 168852: [Fri Nov 13 05:26:07 2015] Teahupoo tells you, '1 drop in PoM = like 3 beads'
Line 168853: [Fri Nov 13 05:26:33 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'man I'm forced to play on satelite for the next two months, the fact that i'm at 700ms and getting first engage on these mobs'
Line 168854: [Fri Nov 13 05:26:37 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'should tell you all you need to know'
Line 168860: [Fri Nov 13 05:26:45 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'about these two players'
Line 168865: [Fri Nov 13 05:26:51 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'has nothing to do with latency man'
Line 168873: [Fri Nov 13 05:27:02 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'No, but that's why I'm not in PoM'
Line 168884: [Fri Nov 13 05:27:14 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'that's why I'm dealing with level 55s two of them who can't hold down a simpel camp'
Line 168886: [Fri Nov 13 05:27:21 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'so because you are pissed that you have shitty internet you piss other people off? *boggle*'
Line 168891: [Fri Nov 13 05:27:32 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I'm not pissed. You told me to go to a more profitable area'
Line 168899: [Fri Nov 13 05:27:40 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I'm telling you, I am in the most profitable area I can be in now.'
Line 168901: [Fri Nov 13 05:27:59 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'yeah while being an asshole and stealing someone camp'
Line 168903: [Fri Nov 13 05:28:04 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'GJ'
Line 168904: [Fri Nov 13 05:28:11 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I'm not stealing anything, man, they forfeited camp when they coudln't hold it down'
Line 168905: [Fri Nov 13 05:28:19 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'literally anyone could have come in here, sat for 15 minutes and saw they weren't clearing'
Line 168906: [Fri Nov 13 05:28:28 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I gave htem 40 minutes, lol, that's wayyyy more than I needed'
Line 168907: [Fri Nov 13 05:28:34 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I literally saw two sets of mobs respawn'
Line 168908: [Fri Nov 13 05:28:46 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'put it this way... either you leave or someone comes out to helm them and you leave anyway'
Line 168909: [Fri Nov 13 05:28:48 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'take a pick'
Line 168910: [Fri Nov 13 05:29:01 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'at that point in time the people who come out are KS'ing legitimately'
Line 168911: [Fri Nov 13 05:29:10 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'but that's fine, petitions are in it seems'
Line 168915: [Fri Nov 13 05:29:53 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'OK, how about this, I'll apologize and eat crow if a GM/guide shows up and tells me I'm int he wrong'
Line 168916: [Fri Nov 13 05:29:59 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Literally, I have no problem doing that.'
Line 168918: [Fri Nov 13 05:30:12 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'That means I was misled into thinking that if you can't hold a camp, if you don't have the kill'
Line 168919: [Fri Nov 13 05:30:13 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'doesnt matter.. someone to come out to pull and kill those mobs with them'
Line 168925: [Fri Nov 13 05:30:20 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'force sufficient enough to hold it, that it's not your camp'
Line 168926: [Fri Nov 13 05:30:20 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'have a good one'
Line 168952: [Fri Nov 13 05:31:03 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'you too bud, its' a miserable camp'
Line 168962: [Fri Nov 13 05:32:15 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'i know, i spent over a week trying to get 1 set'
Line 168963: [Fri Nov 13 05:32:31 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Yeah, I don't even expect to get one haha'
Line 168964: [Fri Nov 13 05:32:32 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'soloing 1 mob'
Line 168965: [Fri Nov 13 05:32:47 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Which makes literally what you're saying true, but not by virtue of anything else than I'm putting in a lot of headache for nothing'
Line 168966: [Fri Nov 13 05:32:58 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'if its 2 mobs.. why not camp the front 2?'
Line 168972: [Fri Nov 13 05:33:04 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'and avoid all of this'
Line 169011: [Fri Nov 13 05:33:25 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'man those are on a respawn of 7 minutes right? which is almost exactly the kill rate these two were doing'
Line 169028: [Fri Nov 13 05:33:33 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'exactly?'
Line 169036: [Fri Nov 13 05:33:44 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'but no where near how fast i could kill'
Line 169042: [Fri Nov 13 05:33:47 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'if that makes sense'
Line 169045: [Fri Nov 13 05:33:48 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'so stop fucking with them and kill the same mobs on the same respawn timer at the front of the cave?'
Line 169054: [Fri Nov 13 05:34:14 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I mean, there is a power imbalance, I could clear this room myself, they can't at all'
Line 169055: [Fri Nov 13 05:34:27 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'the rate they could kill at is freely available like... 50 feet away'
Line 169056: [Fri Nov 13 05:34:31 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'that doesnt make it you cave'
Line 169057: [Fri Nov 13 05:34:37 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'cause you can kill more than 2 55's'
Line 169058: [Fri Nov 13 05:34:41 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'it makes it my cave when they dont' have the kill'
Line 169061: [Fri Nov 13 05:34:45 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'force to hold the camp'
Line 169066: [Fri Nov 13 05:34:58 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'you are just being a total asshole man, go get some vagina'
Line 169073: [Fri Nov 13 05:35:06 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'fucking salty'
Line 169074: [Fri Nov 13 05:35:06 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I gave them plenty of time to get another BDA dude out here to help them'
Line 169077: [Fri Nov 13 05:35:11 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I suggested it'
Line 169079: [Fri Nov 13 05:35:24 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Do I really'
Line 169087: [Fri Nov 13 05:35:36 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'seem salty to you, I mean... I'm being civil as fuck in discourse, I've been civil the entire time'
Line 169098: [Fri Nov 13 05:35:57 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Like, if you saw 3 people trying to kill king and couldn't for over 40 minutes'
Line 169103: [Fri Nov 13 05:36:01 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'boasting that you are better, stealing someone else's mobs, then telling them too bad suck a dick.. real civil lol'
Line 169104: [Fri Nov 13 05:36:02 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'does that mean they still get to hold king?'
Line 169107: [Fri Nov 13 05:36:08 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I'm not boasting anything'
Line 169109: [Fri Nov 13 05:36:10 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'means i leave and come back later'
Line 169113: [Fri Nov 13 05:36:16 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'cause im not a total asshole'
Line 169115: [Fri Nov 13 05:36:19 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I'm literally stating the facts, they couldn't kill what i oculd kill'
Line 169128: [Fri Nov 13 05:36:39 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'well I'm not a total asshole either but at the same time, if I was trying and failing to hold a camp, I'd leave.'
Line 169172: [Fri Nov 13 05:37:48 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'killing 80&PCT; of a camp isnt exactly failing.. and if they couldnt kill it and you simply asked if you could kill those 2 spawns.. im sure they wouldnt of said shit.. but that's not how it went down '
Line 169188: [Fri Nov 13 05:38:09 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'so i goto seb.. dont clear entire spawn.. another group can claim the camp? no'
Line 169197: [Fri Nov 13 05:38:24 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'if you're claiming disco and not keeping disco down'
Line 169201: [Fri Nov 13 05:38:31 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'why would you think someone couldn't move in?'
Line 169204: [Fri Nov 13 05:38:44 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'but if i keep 90&PCT; of disco down and dont pull 1 one single side room.. i lose the camp? don't think so man'
Line 169206: [Fri Nov 13 05:38:54 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Is that room in LoS?'
Line 169207: [Fri Nov 13 05:38:56 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Nope'
Line 169208: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:03 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'its the "camp"'
Line 169210: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:05 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'this is alllll LoS and it's not being kept down'
Line 169251: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:41 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'doesnt matter if LoS or Not...disco has 2 named spawns'
Line 169267: [Fri Nov 13 05:39:53 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'doesnt mean you can just run up and kill Grup if we are in pox room'
Line 169284: [Fri Nov 13 05:40:06 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'if grup has been up for 40 minutes it does'
Line 169334: [Fri Nov 13 05:40:35 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'there is no way they were up for 40 minutes'
Line 169336: [Fri Nov 13 05:40:40 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'they wouldnt be this pissed'
Line 169337: [Fri Nov 13 05:40:53 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'dude, they were, do you think I would have stepped in without clear cause'
Line 169338: [Fri Nov 13 05:41:02 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'I knew this was going to be a shit storm, I knew the gms would be called, why would I even risk it?'
Line 169340: [Fri Nov 13 05:41:22 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'you walked up.. saw a group clearing and just sat there and was like "ill just see snag whatever mobs they dont pull right away" ?'
Line 169343: [Fri Nov 13 05:41:58 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'you know its going to happen, yet you are still doing it now heh'
Line 169362: [Fri Nov 13 05:44:27 2015] You told teahupoo, 'sorry was responding to RnFs about the issue lol'
Line 169364: [Fri Nov 13 05:44:49 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'you are just stirring up shit everywhere for no reason lol /shrug'
Line 169365: [Fri Nov 13 05:45:00 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'no skin off my back man'
Line 169366: [Fri Nov 13 05:45:10 2015] You told teahupoo, 'They posted on RnFs about me, I didn't say shit'
Line 169378: [Fri Nov 13 05:48:20 2015] You told teahupoo, 'No dude, I didn't walk up and just snag a target.'
Line 169381: [Fri Nov 13 05:48:30 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'Shit, I'll just post you my log so you can see the timestamp itself'
Line 169388: [Fri Nov 13 05:49:44 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'i wont see it, i dont go on the forums'
Line 169389: [Fri Nov 13 05:49:53 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'too much stupid BS that i dont give two fucks aboutr'
Line 169391: [Fri Nov 13 05:50:07 2015] You told teahupoo, 'nah i can just copy paste it here'
Line 169394: [Fri Nov 13 05:50:44 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:17:50 2015] You told Xetho, 'did ya'll just die?''
Line 169397: [Fri Nov 13 05:51:08 2015] You told teahupoo, 'I said this because all but two mobs were up'
Line 169398: [Fri Nov 13 05:51:23 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:18:27 2015] You told Xetho, 'doesn't look like you're keeping spawns down''
Line 169399: [Fri Nov 13 05:51:37 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:18:44 2015] Xetho tells you, 'we just started''
Line 169402: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:09 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:19:10 2015] You told Xetho, 'you know if those things are up longer than 14 minutes somoene can start killing them, right?''
Line 169403: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:23 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:20:49 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i dunno man im tryin to do camp''
Line 169405: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:36 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:20:59 2015] Xetho tells you, 'dude left with me almost oom from buffing him' [Fri Nov 13 04:21:05 2015] Xetho tells you, 'trying to get mana''
Line 169407: [Fri Nov 13 05:52:46 2015] You told teahupoo, 'so I was like OK, he just got camp, no big deal.'
Line 169410: [Fri Nov 13 05:53:02 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:21:35 2015] You told Xetho, 'i mean, dems da rules, i'd get another friend out here to help you guys out, because that mob that respawned has been up for 4 minutes now lol''
Line 169415: [Fri Nov 13 05:53:19 2015] You told teahupoo, '[Fri Nov 13 04:21:36 2015] Xetho tells you, 'if it doesnt work out its your camp so lemme try to do this''
Line 169420: [Fri Nov 13 05:53:32 2015] You told teahupoo, 'so he literally told me if it doesn't work out, it's my camp'
Line 169422: [Fri Nov 13 05:53:44 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'you are just pasting you being a dick about spawn timers and mobs being up.. all i read... '
Line 169424: [Fri Nov 13 05:53:50 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'and its obviously working out cause they are still there'
Line 169430: [Fri Nov 13 05:54:01 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'ok, I'm just informing you how the conversation started'
Line 169433: [Fri Nov 13 05:54:09 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'i dont really care hhe'
Line 169434: [Fri Nov 13 05:54:10 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'heh'
Line 169441: [Fri Nov 13 05:54:24 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'see, then why are you taking some moral highground when you don't even care about the circumstances or situation lol'
Line 169452: [Fri Nov 13 05:54:34 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'that's all you need to say'
Line 169465: [Fri Nov 13 05:54:44 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'doesnt take away from what a dick you are being'
Line 169467: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:00 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'well, I'm sure I seem like a real dick when you hear Xentho's version'
Line 169468: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:06 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'anyone who wasnt, wouldnt be there still or spend 30 minutes typing about it trying to explain their side for no reason'
Line 169470: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:11 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'ive heard both'
Line 169471: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:15 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'but I've got plenty of evidence showing I gave htem plenty of heads up'
Line 169473: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:18 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'hes trying.. your stepping on his feet'
Line 169475: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:37 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'dude, I'm typing to you because I've got your guild members literally in my camp taking my mobs that I was keeping down lol'
Line 169476: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:47 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'its not your camp idiot'
Line 169478: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:52 2015] You told Teahupoo, 'haha, OK'
Line 169479: [Fri Nov 13 05:55:59 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'they were there first'
Line 169481: [Fri Nov 13 05:56:03 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'they cleared majority'
Line 169482: [Fri Nov 13 05:56:07 2015] Teahupoo tells you, 'go the fuck away'

[Swish]

The funniest part is that went on for nearly 2 hours. I don't know how people put up with it - there's a pvp alternative that would have it resolved within 5 minutes.

[Kekephee]

I mean, I'll leave this here for all RnFs to judge. Am I evil? If I am, was I within the rules? If I was breaking any rules I'll apologize and eat crow. I'll be back on tomorrow to read feedback and eat shit if I have to.:


You told the guy that if they're up for 14 minutes they're fair game, he said they had been up for five, then you immediately started killing them. Doesn't sound to me like you were within the rules that you yourself stated. In addition, the guy wasn't afk- you were talking to him- and made it clear that his situation was, he had buffed the guy who had the camp before him and needed some mana. You had no reason to believe he couldn't handle the camp, you had no reason to believe he wouldn't handle the camp, you didn't wait the amount of time that you yourself stated is the threshold for just coming in and taking it. Honestly, I don't see a single reason you were right here unless you're Swish and "the guy was BDA" is a cue to immediately do a 180 and start defending you.


Also if there were some rule against buffing the guy who had the camp before you, which to me is a weird thing to do and doesn't make much sense.

[Kekephee]

Oh, wait a minute. No. Did HE pull the mob and you just took it off him? It wasn't even like, the mob was up and he wasn't killing it? Naw man, I don't think you have a leg to stand on here

[Swish]

I'm not defending anyone, I'm just not surprised that your guild was involved. Can we 404 the code of conduct page yet? Doesn't mean shit.

[Juevento]

Huh, looks like skotos is a way too immersed guy with no social skills. Xetho is a newer BDA member and from what I read acquitted himself very well.

It's more curious that Skotos would /anon when trying to steal a camp.

[FoxxHound]

The funniest part is that went on for nearly 2 hours. I don't know how people put up with it - there's a pvp alternative that would have it resolved within 5 minutes.

[Kekephee]

There is nothing in the code of conduct page about not getting your camp stolen from you

[Swish]

that was a double negative, you must be lying.

[arsenalpow]

140 characters max or I'm not reading it. Society has ruined my attention span.

[Swish]

Code of Conduct

Maturity
We expect a degree of maturity from all members of Bregan D'Aerth. We expect maturity both within the guild and outside of the guild. You will treat others with respect at all times.

I'd say that's relevant in this case and many others on the forums. In fact I think you'd lose at least a dozen members for not being mature adults on here.

(who wrote it btw? I feel bad that they wasted their time)

[Kekephee]

140 characters max or I'm not reading it. Society has ruined my attention span.


Guy in BDA wasted mana buffing guy 2 who had camp before him/ couldn't immediately kill. Guy 3 thought this gave fair claim on camp. @therealdonaldtrump

[arsenalpow]

I'd say that's relevant in this case and many others on the forums. In fact I think you'd lose at least a dozen members for not being mature adults on here.

(who wrote it btw? I feel bad that they wasted their time)

The code of conduct applies when I see fit, and generally what happens is you try to incite some bullshit with a BDA member, and then you hold up the code of conduct like its a fucking shield. Stop being purposefully obtuse, the code is there to tell our guys to be good citizens, not to stop them from arguing with your ignorant ass in RnF.

[Ella`Ella]

The funniest part is that went on for nearly 2 hours. I don't know how people put up with it - there's a pvp alternative that would have it resolved within 5 minutes.

I looked at the first time stamp and the last time stamp and read nothing in between..

Verdict - Guilty.

[maskedmelon]

You know, this is actually very interesting. It made me think ^^ Initially, I thought Skots was a jackass, but after reading the rest of the story, it looks to me that he was just competing within the rules. I think that's the part that a lot of players have trouble understanding. Many view competition as aggression. The OP is an example of one such person. The thing is though, OP was playing within the rules that he preferred while ignoring the ones that he didn't prefer (specifically the one that allows for competition). Lap then showed himself to be a poor sport and an asshole. It's like the guy who refuses to shake hands after a game when he loses... But worse.

Skots, have you considered red? We have assholes too, but they are less prevalent and we have many more peeps with a fair view of competition ^^ Give it some thought ^^

Verdict:

OP = sore loser
Skotos = competitor

[Swish]

The code of conduct applies when I see fit, and generally what happens is you try to incite some bullshit with a BDA member, and then you hold up the code of conduct like its a fucking shield. Stop being purposefully obtuse, the code is there to tell our guys to be good citizens, not to stop them from arguing with your ignorant ass in RnF.

Oh okay, so it doesn't apply to camp thieves, camp lawyers or anyone trying to be shitty for the sake of it. Got it. No wonder Snaj thought he could get away with it, he could.

If it doesn't apply equally to all members and is selectively enforced then there's little point in having one.

Do you tell trialists about it? If so, why? If not... it shows.

[arsenalpow]

Oh okay, so it doesn't apply to camp thieves, camp lawyers or anyone trying to be shitty for the sake of it. Got it. No wonder Snaj thought he could get away with it, he could.

If it doesn't apply equally to all members and is selectively enforced then there's little point in having one.

Do you tell trialists about it? If so, why? If not... it shows.

I selectively enforce everything. How do you think I keep all my minions brainwashed? In seconds 3 or 4 BDA members will post to back me up. The Kool-Aid is premium shit.

[arsenalpow]

You know, this is actually very interesting. It made me think ^^ Initially, I thought Skots was a jackass, but after reading the rest of the story, it looks to me that he was just competing within the rules. I think that's the part that a lot of players have trouble understanding. Many view competition as aggression. The OP is an example of one such person. The thing is though, OP was playing within the rules that he preferred while ignoring the ones that he didn't prefer (specifically the one that allows for competition). Lap then showed himself to be a poor sport and an asshole. It's like the guy who refuses to shake hands after a game when he loses... But worse.

Skots, have you considered red? We have assholes too, but they are less prevalent and we have many more peeps with a fair view of competition ^^ Give it some thought ^^

Verdict:

OP = sore loser
Skotos = competitor

The double standard is amusing though. Reverse these roles and there would be a RnF lynch mob because BDA was "competing." Instead we have a BDA app being a good denizen of P99, buffing the guy leaving the camp after waiting patiently in line, and this necro tries to weasel in on the camp.

[Swish]

Your guild in a picture

http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Home%20Page/DisneyGangAtTheCircus/DisneyGangAtTheCircusLg.jpg

[Skotos]

Sorry, just brushed my teeth before I tuck myself into bed and couldn't help but F5. For those who read the transcript, when he said "I petitioned your KS," is the moment I killed my very first mob, literally not enough time to write a petition unless he already had it pulled up and entered and pressed submit on that mob kill. All other timestamps before that were just me waiting and watching them kill.

[arsenalpow]

Your guild in a picture

http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Home%20Page/DisneyGangAtTheCircus/DisneyGangAtTheCircusLg.jpg

Go find some more windmills bro.

http://i.imgur.com/eHETwdT.jpg

[Swish]

I'm not homeless, but thanks for making my life situation a thing in RNF. Been enjoying trips to the gym 5 days a week, going to Vegas next week and emigrating to teach abroad next year.

Fun picture, is that from your forums? lol

[Phantasm]

I think instead of posting 'try red' you should just put it in your SIG so you can focus your posts into intelligent responses.

That said, camp was orally forfeit if mobs could not be cleared, but, like, its fucking holgresh. You said early on in your log wall you wouldn't be on long, two hours later still accepting rnf material from xeth and moving onto yeah for some more. It are game brew. Two homies clearing a camp are going to have an issue with some dude infringing 9/10 times

[k2summit]

TLDR. I'm glad I can actually enjoy the games I play and not be strung out at 5AM lawyerquesting the Fucking bead camp.

[Swish]

I think instead of posting 'try red' you should just put it in your SIG so you can focus your posts into intelligent responses.

You act like I say it in every post.

[Swish]

TLDR. I'm glad I can actually enjoy the games I play and not be strung out at 5AM lawyerquesting the Fucking bead camp.

^^

try red folks

[Phantasm]

*eye roll*

[maskedmelon]

The double standard is amusing though. Reverse these roles and there would be a RnF lynch mob because BDA was "competing."

Yeah, I'll grant you that. I never much understood the BDA vitriol. Not sure where I fell on the BDA POM RNF, but today's issue was interesting because it made a light bulb go on. The problem is that not everyone wants to compete (talking individuals, not guilds), but the rules allow for it in part, but with a woefully ambiguous mechanism of resolve.

The more I think about it, staff ought to get out of the business of mediating camps all together and only step in on cases is KS (kills w/o having FTE). Or, implement non-classic instancimg of everything. Embrace competition or abandon it outright ^^

[Skotos]

You know... I actually sat there trying to sleep and felt like a dick. maskedmelon, you're way of thinking is exactly how I looked at it. I was going to aggressively play within the rules; I'm a non-practicing lawyer irl so when I see a law I push hard against it but not step over it. Tonight I thought I was being nice giving them such a large window - that's the level at which I was playing. However, to be honest, if I had been more... I guess kind or forgiving or less of a megalomaniac or however you want to characterize it, I would have just left them alone. I wanted to go to sleep and didn't because I got that kind of killer drive. My own sacrifice (in not getting sleep) ended up driving me to really have the rules enforced if that makes sense; I kept fantasizing of a green name popping up and laying his big dick of camp arbitration justice down and to revel in the glory. Just for the chance of having them realize they were wrong, I sacrificed sleep and probably was unnecessarily aggressive. Anyway, I believe I acted within the rules, but I was not a kind player so I'm asking forgiveness for my rudeness.

Either way you look at it, I'll apologize. Sorry you two BDA members for being a dick and pushing hard into a camp where you were probably just having fun with each other. Regardless whether I was able to get the camp within the rule set, I probably shouldn't.

I did learn one thing though, how to copy/paste in game from this, was typing shit out by hand up until tonight. Thought that's how people did it.

I officially am eating shit/crow and saying I was wrong.

[entruil]

The funniest part is that went on for nearly 2 hours. I don't know how people put up with it - there's a pvp alternative that would have it resolved within 5 minutes.

Line 167937: [Fri Nov 13 05:02:48 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i waited for the camp'
Line 167938: [Fri Nov 13 05:02:53 2015] Xetho tells you, 'and here you are, looking like a fool'


also 1 item loot

[Aeaolena]

You know... I actually sat there trying to sleep and felt like a dick. maskedmelon, you're way of thinking is exactly how I looked at it. I was going to aggressively play within the rules; I'm a non-practicing lawyer irl so when I see a law I push hard against it but not step over it. Tonight I thought I was being nice giving them such a large window - that's the level at which I was playing. However, to be honest, if I had been more... I guess kind or forgiving or less of a megalomaniac or however you want to characterize it, I would have just left them alone. I wanted to go to sleep and didn't because I got that kind of killer drive. My own sacrifice (in not getting sleep) ended up driving me to really have the rules enforced if that makes sense; I kept fantasizing of a green name popping up and laying his big dick of camp arbitration justice down and to revel in the glory. Just for the chance of having them realize they were wrong, I sacrificed sleep and probably was unnecessarily aggressive. Anyway, I believe I acted within the rules, but I was not a kind player so I'm asking forgiveness for my rudeness.

Either way you look at it, I'll apologize. Sorry you two BDA members for being a dick and pushing hard into a camp where you were probably just having fun with each other. Regardless whether I was able to get the camp within the rule set, I probably shouldn't.

I did learn one thing though, how to copy/paste in game from this, was typing shit out by hand up until tonight. Thought that's how people did it.

I officially am eating shit/crow and saying I was wrong.

Haven't read the entirety of the entire thread since no time.

But assuming this statement is legit. Mad Props. Not many people have the balls to say they are sorry.

[OfftuneRZ]

Why didnt you engage him in pvp? oh thats right because you play on blue99 lol srry.

[Pokesan]

The BDA code of conduct expressly encourages mocking the homeless

[dafier]

Hey Swish!

BDA WINS AGAIN! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Skotos,

*brofist* Thank you.

[Grokk]

I sure wish I had a 60 necro pet I could just send in and do all the killing for me. That would be nifty. My guild has nothing to do with this, its cute that its always gotta be about BDA. I am glad you enjoyed our chat, so did I. I feel we really made progress. I am just glad that the person that got the camp after me was a really nice player, and I wish him/her the best of luck!

I just wanted people to know what a douche Skotos over here was, if they didn't already. That is all.

[dragonhawk]

You know... I actually sat there trying to sleep and felt like a dick. maskedmelon, you're way of thinking is exactly how I looked at it. I was going to aggressively play within the rules; I'm a non-practicing lawyer irl so when I see a law I push hard against it but not step over it. Tonight I thought I was being nice giving them such a large window - that's the level at which I was playing. However, to be honest, if I had been more... I guess kind or forgiving or less of a megalomaniac or however you want to characterize it, I would have just left them alone. I wanted to go to sleep and didn't because I got that kind of killer drive. My own sacrifice (in not getting sleep) ended up driving me to really have the rules enforced if that makes sense; I kept fantasizing of a green name popping up and laying his big dick of camp arbitration justice down and to revel in the glory. Just for the chance of having them realize they were wrong, I sacrificed sleep and probably was unnecessarily aggressive. Anyway, I believe I acted within the rules, but I was not a kind player so I'm asking forgiveness for my rudeness.

Either way you look at it, I'll apologize. Sorry you two BDA members for being a dick and pushing hard into a camp where you were probably just having fun with each other. Regardless whether I was able to get the camp within the rule set, I probably shouldn't.

I did learn one thing though, how to copy/paste in game from this, was typing shit out by hand up until tonight. Thought that's how people did it.

I officially am eating shit/crow and saying I was wrong.

You don't need to apologize. This thread is hilarious because you're being far more lenient in your rule enforcement than Chest was in his in the PoM thread where he used the exact same rule.

How long did Chest wait before he took the camp from Nixxar? Less than ONE MINUTE. Less than the time it takes to relog a character! Chest lawyer-stole the camp because 45 seconds was TOO LONG, and now you're giving BDA 45 minutes!

So how does Chest handle the fact that the precedent he so publicly set is now being used against his own team? He says "tl;dr" and runs away from the fight he knows he can't win. He knows that Xetho is both in the wrong and an embarrassing rager so... suddenly out of nowhere... this pro-wrestler who has devoted his life to LAWYERQUEST now has no time for a legal battle.

You gave them 40 minutes. Your log proves it. Chest didn't give Nixxar even 40 seconds. He didn't wait 40 seconds for Nixxar's teammate to log back in.... he certainly didn't offer for Nixxar to summon in a guildmate to help him achieve Kill Force.

We also have Xetho embarrassing BDA:

Xetho tells you, 'i bet you are used to having people pick on you though?/'
Xetho tells you, 'a life time of that?'
Xetho tells you, 'im sorry to hear that'
Xetho tells you, 'must suck to not have anyone like you'
Xetho tells you, 'i bet girls dont like you either, that must be hard'
Xetho tells you, 'you know its not the size of the boat, its the motion in the ocean'
Xetho tells you, 'keep going strong buddy! one day!'
Xetho tells you, 'i will do my very best to call you out as the sissy KSer that you are =) i gotta loud ass mouth btw'

:o:o:o

What kind of a loser tries to hurt someone's feelings like this?

There's more



Xetho makes a rude gesture at Skotos.
Xetho tells you, 'you made the wrong enemy tonight'
Xetho tells you, 'you are my new favorite person'
Xetho tells you, 'you meet any girls yet?'
You told Xetho, 'I hit that first'
Xetho tells you, 'you did not'
You told Xetho, 'yeah i did lol'
Xetho tells you, 'i saw when you tried to'
Xetho tells you, 'but you failed'
Xetho tells you, 'like most things in your life i am sure'
Xetho tells you, 'its ok'
Xetho tells you, 'not everyone can be a winner! you are just one of the unlucky few'
Xetho tells you, 'born to be a failure!'
Xetho tells you, 'its ok, so what exactly did your parents hate about you? or is the list too long?'
Xetho tells you, 'you can tell me, we are friends'
Xetho tells you, 'was it that you werent very good at sports? or anything?'
Xetho tells you, 'because you were "different" ? or "special"?'
Xetho tells you, 'cmon man im here to help'
Xetho tells you, 'im a good listener'
Xetho tells you, 'you arent much of a talker eh?'
Xetho tells you, 'im tryin to be your friend'
Xetho tells you, 'and here you are giving me the cold shoulder'
Xetho tells you, 'i can help you get past your problems man! just have faith!'
Xetho tells you, 'so whats up whats your favorite color'
Xetho tells you, 'hows the camp look to you boss? it look cleared?'
Xetho tells you, 'im starting to think you dont like me, i am kinda upset about that, im trying to help you !'
Xetho tells you, 'you need a hug man?'
Xetho hugs Skotos.
Xetho tells you, 'there yago'


:o:o:o

Autism Level: 9000

Recap:

Chest knows when to flee a fight he can't win.
BDA closes ranks around their embarassing autists.
Skotos revealed as a class act who is more generous than he needs to be, nicer than most would be, and still gracious enough to apologize when he's not at fault.
Chest knows when to flee a fight he can't win.

[Merekai]

TL/DR
Don't fuck with Xetho or he'll make you pay!

Chev

[Pokesan]

I didn't read the log either; good on you for collecting all the asshole things this BDA villain said. Wow.

[Juevento]

That's what passes for liquid magma flames these days?


Yikes.

[dafier]

You are funny

[Fuggers]

Why didnt you engage him in pvp? oh thats right because you play on blue99 lol srry.

My guess is because he doesn't like the horrendous mechanics of PvP on EQ, a game that was not intended to be PvP. What he does enjoy is the nostalga and pixel acquisition.

Do all 200 people from red post on the RnF forums instead of actually playing the game? Maybe swish is just such a loud voice that it feels like all 200 of you.
On a side note, Swish I'm so happy you're trying to convince us that you are developing a real life (travelling, attending social events, and even going to gym!) but to really convince us you're going to have to stop posting to the online elf simulator forums. I think that would be sufficient evidence.

[-TK-]

You don't need to apologize. This thread is hilarious because you're being far more lenient in your rule enforcement than Chest was in his in the PoM thread where he used the exact same rule.

How long did Chest wait before he took the camp from Nixxar? Less than ONE MINUTE. Less than the time it takes to relog a character! Chest lawyer-stole the camp because 45 seconds was TOO LONG, and now you're giving BDA 45 minutes!

Despite any specific guild being involved, this is exactly what I thought but didn't feel like typing out. It seemed so familiar. If the mobs are spawned and sitting there and you are not killing them almost immediately upon spawning you relinquish your claim. It has been stated again and again on the forums every time something like this comes up. If you're camping something, keep it dead. It doesn't matter if you are trying to resuscitate your mother or your dog got hit by a car (or, you know, buffing someone leaving a camp). It may not make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, but it's the way it works and it's not something new.

[dragonhawk]

Despite any specific guild being involved, this is exactly what I thought but didn't feel like typing out. It seemed so familiar. If the mobs are spawned and sitting there and you are not killing them almost immediately upon spawning you relinquish your claim. It has been stated again and again on the forums every time something like this comes up. If you're camping something, keep it dead. It doesn't matter if you are trying to resuscitate your mother or your dog got hit by a car (or, you know, buffing someone leaving a camp). It may not make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, but it's the way it works and it's not something new.

Yep. And Skotos' log shows that he waited AT LEAST 40 minutes... probably 45+ minutes...

... Skotos waits for 5 minutes without saying anything ...

Line 166759: [Fri Nov 13 04:15:50 2015] You told Xetho, 'did ya'll just die?'

... 40 minutes passes without BDA achieving Kill Force ...

Line 167716: [Fri Nov 13 04:53:37 2015] Xetho tells you, 'i petitioned your KSing'

Last week I had a camp taken from me because I left the placeholder up for 2 minutes. This was a level 50ish camp for an item worth far less than Holgresh Beads.

I didn't cry about it. I didn't make some embarrassing attempt at hurting a stranger's feelings by psychoanalyzing their childhood or whatever Xetho was doing there... lmao...

[kined]

skotos was being a pedantic cunt... we didnt get on to this game so that rule lawyering losers can get on and force people to kill at a faster rate or you'll steal it. thats not the spirit of the camp rules and you either know it or youre an autist. i thought it was OP being whiney at first but i read the chat logs and now i understand he was just being a little rule lawyering bitch. hope the reputation sticks.

[Alenon]

skotos was being a pedantic cunt... we didnt get on to this game so that rule lawyering losers can get on and force people to kill at a faster rate or you'll steal it. thats not the spirit of the camp rules and you either know it or youre an autist. i thought it was OP being whiney at first but i read the chat logs and now i understand he was just being a little rule lawyering bitch. hope the reputation sticks.

Don't go up against a bda member then, you'll only get 30 seconds instead of 40 minutes :P

[kined]

Don't go up against a bda member then, you'll only get 30 seconds instead of 40 minutes :P

eh both sides sucked in this. skotos was being a rule-lawyer and i hate that, but i think i dislike the guys on the other end of this even more for how childishly they delt with it... one of them was calling him a "sissy girl" and that he can smell that hes a girl.... absolutely ridiculous dum shit.

he was a dick for taking it in the first place though even though it was within the rules. i dont want douchebags left and right staring down every camp im at and stealing it the second i have to take a buff break on a rotation and dont get a mob or two down. both parties in this were completely shitty and the server would be better off without either of them.

[Man0warr]

The difference is Nixxar is a dickbag, he gets no leniency.

[dragonhawk]

eh both sides sucked in this. skotos was being a rule-lawyer and i hate that, but i think i dislike the guys on the other end of this even more for how childishly they delt with it... one of them was calling him a "sissy girl" and that he can smell that hes a girl.... absolutely ridiculous dum shit.

he was a dick for taking it in the first place though even though it was within the rules. i dont want douchebags left and right staring down every camp im at and stealing it the second i have to take a buff break on a rotation and dont get a mob or two down. both parties in this were completely shitty and the server would be better off without either of them.

BDA uses the rules. They use them publicly. In that PoM thread where Chest stole Nixxar's camp after less than 30 seconds, Kekephee explained that "the margins are tighter at high levels" and that people expect competition.

In a world where BDA can and will steal your camp if you leave for 30 seconds.... you either sack up and give them the same treatment, or you become their bitch.

Last week I was camping the Earring of Essence in Droga and left a gnoll legate placeholder up for around 2 minutes so I could med up enough to kill it without risk. The legate's are the hardest mobs in there and my character is low 50s. I can handle the camp but sometimes my mana runs a bit low because I'm still at a low level.

A 60 druid from BDA came in right at that moment and killed the PH and claimed the camp. Bad luck for me. Good luck for him. I didn't cry, I didn't petition.

A fish rots from the head. Chest sets the example that BDA follows. BDA sees Chest rule-lawyer his way into other people's camps so they learn how to do it.

Now in this thread Kekephee has done a 180... what happened to high levels having tight margins? What happened to expecting competition? Now we should coddle the newbs who can't clear a camp after 45 minutes of failing.

This thread shows how BDA is full of hypocrites. They support their guildmates both ways and fuck everyone else.

true colors

[maskedmelon]

The difference is Nixxar is a dickbag, he gets no leniency.

So was Xetho. The guy was entirely uncivil.

The real problem is that on blue we have peeps playing different games. Some want to compete. Some don't. The rules allow for it, but much of the community frowns on it.

[Troubled]

BDA uses the rules. They use them publicly. In that PoM thread where Chest stole Nixxar's camp after less than 30 seconds, Kekephee explained that "the margins are tighter at high levels" and that people expect competition.

In a world where BDA can and will steal your camp if you leave for 30 seconds.... you either sack up and give them the same treatment, or you become their bitch.

Last week I was camping the Earring of Essence in Droga and left a gnoll legate placeholder up for around 2 minutes so I could med up enough to kill it without risk. The legate's are the hardest mobs in there and my character is low 50s. I can handle the camp but sometimes my mana runs a bit low because I'm still at a low level.

A 60 druid from BDA came in right at that moment and killed the PH and claimed the camp. Bad luck for me. Good luck for him. I didn't cry, I didn't petition.

A fish rots from the head. Chest sets the example that BDA follows. BDA sees Chest rule-lawyer his way into other people's camps so they learn how to do it.

Now in this thread Kekephee has done a 180... what happened to high levels having tight margins? What happened to expecting competition? Now we should coddle the newbs who can't clear a camp after 45 minutes of failing.

This thread shows how BDA is full of hypocrites. They support their guildmates both ways and fuck everyone else.

true colors

tldr; mad af

[dragonhawk]

tldr; mad af

lmao

BDA sends their trolls after me while they defend this guy:


Xetho tells you, 'i waited for the camp'
Xetho tells you, 'and here you are, looking like a fool'
You told Xetho, 'well, sticks and stones man'
Xetho tells you, 'lol, words of a little sissy girl'
Xetho tells you, 'yeah you look like a little sissy girl'
Xetho tells you, 'i smell it'
Xetho tells you, 'we all petitioned you, and i will post something in the forums about you being a dirty little KSer'


I've never seen someone so butthurt in my life. And Chest, Juevento, Kekephee and other misc BDA are coming in here to defend him!

[arsenalpow]

tldr; mad af

[dragonhawk]

Hey Chest I want you to know something.....

...

...

...


You're a dirty little sissy girl!

lmao

[captnamazing]

I didn't read the rest of this thread, but I think it's funny Swish assumed Skotos was the BDA member. reading comprehension levels so low. amazing you can navigate these forums

[captnamazing]

oh but also skotos did nothing wrong imo. if you can't hold the camp, you can't hold the camp... this is p99

[baalzy]

Real moral of the story.

Shaman suck at the holgresh camp and should feel ashamed for even trying to hold it.

[Ravager]

I didn't read the rest of this thread, but I think it's funny Swish assumed Skotos was the BDA member. reading comprehension levels so low. amazing you can navigate these forums

Swish doesn't read. He just copy/pastes red propaganda and gifs every three or four posts in every thread on every board then thinks he's a celebrity for it.

[Zampini]

Skotos is a stand up guy. I gotta agree, if you can't hold the camp you can't hold the camp.

[JboxCSU]

Sooooo BDA can rule lawyer someone out of a camp, but it's bad form for others to rule lawyer BDA out of a camp. Got it!

Hats off Skotos though for admitting he crossed the ethics line a bit, even if no rules were technically broken.

Go red today!

[am0n]

Skotos is a stand up guy. I gotta agree, if you can't hold the camp you can't hold the camp.

Sounds like BDA fail here.

Good job, Skotos.

[jcr4990]

Man.. BDA is the worst..

[dragonhawk]

The difference is Nixxar is a dickbag, he gets no leniency.

Is that why your BDA friend lawyer-jacked my Droga camp? Because I'm a dickbag?

I'm on record as being a friend of BDA. That didn't protect me from getting jacked.

This is me right here: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216810

I'm the Dial a Port wizard who gives free ports to RnF posters. (tell your friends)

I understand that not all BDA are cunts. Actually I have more than one BDA on /friend and there is more than one BDA I'm happy to give free ports to.

And I've been invited to BDA more than once.

But this didn't stop me from getting rulefucked. Cause a fish rots from the head and Chest has set a bad example. Chest is that classic case where a kid is bullied by TMO for so long that he turns into a bully.

Maybe it's cool to fuck with Nixxar because he's ex-TMO. I get that. But new players don't know who Nixxar is... new players don't even know who TMO is. I played on Fennin Ro so I know how bad TMO is. I remember being KSed by TMO so many times... they would roll through highkeep and just push everyone out and the GMs wouldn't do a thing. They were the biggest bastards in the game with the worst reputation.

And now Chest has been fucked over by them for so long that he's turned into one of them. And he sets the example for BDA. Only Filbus is such a class act that he doesn't stoop to defending this moron Xetho.

[Juevento]

You do realize that Filbus is a drug addict and a sycophant of the disgraced rogue GM Moregan right?

You sure that's the guy you wanna stand with?

[dragonhawk]

You do realize that Filbus is a drug addict and a sycophant of the disgraced rogue GM Moregan right?

You sure that's the guy you wanna stand with?

It's impossible not to love Filbus

funny seeing you call someone a sycophant though!

[captnamazing]

juev is sick... like a rat that has clawed his way into the belly of an industrial AC unit and has been feeding off the freon. You have to be a twisted mother fucker to play this game regularly without getting baked.

http://i.imgur.com/FgUvdQV.jpg

[Man0warr]

Is that why your BDA friend lawyer-jacked my Droga camp? Because I'm a dickbag?



No idea. Maybe you should have tried to talk with the guy who killed the PH you left up. Sounds like you just bounced instead of saying your piece.

[dragonhawk]

No idea. Maybe you should have tried to talk with the guy who killed the PH you left up. Sounds like you just bounced instead of saying your piece.

I told him I had been camping it for hours. He said it's his now because I left the PH up for too long. I didn't threaten to petition because my dad raised me to be a good sport.

The camp has 5 spawns you have to clear. 4 were down and only the ph was up. There was still like 5min before the next spawn after the PH so I had some time to med up to ensure that if I got a resist I wouldn't find myself oom or near oom.

Was he being a dick? Or just competing fairly? I don't really care that much either way. I have no problem with people who follow the rules and are honest about it, and that's why I have no problem with Skotos.

But the hypocrisy from Kekephee is really fucking lame. Total 180 degree reversal from his position in that other thread. Chest, on the other hands, was smart enough to stay out of this one. Shows you where the brains are... Chest runs BDA and Chest defines the culture.

Some guilds actively discourage rule fucking because they want to be good citizens that support the server and encourage a friendly community. They seem to be pretty rare in p99 though ...

The Earring of Essence sells for 4k. The Holgresh Elder Beads are going for 30k in EC right now.

[Star]

Fairly certain both swish and chest have extreme autism and Down syndrome.

[Spyder73]

Fairly certain both swish and chest have extreme autism and Down syndrome.

You had me at hello Star....

#smitten

[Troubled]

I told him I had been camping it for hours. He said it's his now because I left the PH up for too long. I didn't threaten to petition because my dad raised me to be a good sport.

The camp has 5 spawns you have to clear. 4 were down and only the ph was up. There was still like 5min before the next spawn after the PH so I had some time to med up to ensure that if I got a resist I wouldn't find myself oom or near oom.

Was he being a dick? Or just competing fairly? I don't really care that much either way. I have no problem with people who follow the rules and are honest about it, and that's why I have no problem with Skotos.

But the hypocrisy from Kekephee is really fucking lame. Total 180 degree reversal from his position in that other thread. Chest, on the other hands, was smart enough to stay out of this one. Shows you where the brains are... Chest runs BDA and Chest defines the culture.

Some guilds actively discourage rule fucking because they want to be good citizens that support the server and encourage a friendly community. They seem to be pretty rare in p99 though ...

The Earring of Essence sells for 4k. The Holgresh Elder Beads are going for 30k in EC right now.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aC-vHKSgX0w/UYHsdvKNQRI/AAAAAAAAASU/o1bDj1P_svY/s320/tumblr_m27bi7C3d51r6aoq4o1_500.gif

[Swish]

My guess is because he doesn't like the horrendous mechanics of PvP on EQ, a game that was not intended to be PvP. What he does enjoy is the nostalga and pixel acquisition.

Do all 200 people from red post on the RnF forums instead of actually playing the game? Maybe swish is just such a loud voice that it feels like all 200 of you.
On a side note, Swish I'm so happy you're trying to convince us that you are developing a real life (travelling, attending social events, and even going to gym!) but to really convince us you're going to have to stop posting to the online elf simulator forums. I think that would be sufficient evidence.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm merely providing a run down of my weekly activities - which reminds me, its Friday and time to update the thread.

Why would I give up posting? Why SHOULD I give up posting? I enjoy it.

[Swish]

BDA uses the rules. They use them publicly. In that PoM thread where Chest stole Nixxar's camp after less than 30 seconds, Kekephee explained that "the margins are tighter at high levels" and that people expect competition.

In a world where BDA can and will steal your camp if you leave for 30 seconds.... you either sack up and give them the same treatment, or you become their bitch.

Last week I was camping the Earring of Essence in Droga and left a gnoll legate placeholder up for around 2 minutes so I could med up enough to kill it without risk. The legate's are the hardest mobs in there and my character is low 50s. I can handle the camp but sometimes my mana runs a bit low because I'm still at a low level.

A 60 druid from BDA came in right at that moment and killed the PH and claimed the camp. Bad luck for me. Good luck for him. I didn't cry, I didn't petition.

A fish rots from the head. Chest sets the example that BDA follows. BDA sees Chest rule-lawyer his way into other people's camps so they learn how to do it.

Now in this thread Kekephee has done a 180... what happened to high levels having tight margins? What happened to expecting competition? Now we should coddle the newbs who can't clear a camp after 45 minutes of failing.

This thread shows how BDA is full of hypocrites. They support their guildmates both ways and fuck everyone else.

true colors

Best post in this thread, and to spin away...far from defending any of it, the BDA posters that followed all decided to make more "we hate Swish" posts because they can't get enough of me.

Rightly so, I've been calling you out on your shitty attitude to the server and the community for months - I have a duty to inform the world via ForumQuest that you're not a guild people should be considering. The guy in the quote has also got the measure of you all with added personal experiences.

[Troubled]

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[Xaanka]

I was waiting my turn in line for the elder caves in Wakening lands like any respectable player would. As soon as I get the camp a necro, Skoto comes up and starts talking about how we arent clearing the camp, literally 1 min after getting the camp. I tell him I just got done buffing the guy that was there before and I was medding. A few minutes after that he runs in and starts pulling some mobs off the back wall we had not gotten to yet. I ask him why he is KSing us, we were obviously at the camp and killing mobs, and he said we took to long and it was his camp. He is currently pulling from out camp without abandon and it being 5:30 AM there are no GM's responding to petitions. I wanted everyone to know what an outstanding player Skotos is. He refused to tell me his guild, I assume he is either ashamed of it or he does not want people to associate his poor behavior with his guild.

consider red

[Skotos]

Well, I will say that I can't blame BDA coming to the aid of their compatriot and forcing me out of my camp, albeit I do think in a measure that was against the rules. I didn't take a camp because I was anon, because I wasn't, but roleplayed so that I didn't have to deal with unsolicited guild invitations being an unguilded 60 necro, Juev.

I will say that I definitely had the PoM RnFs post in mind when I started down this road. I double checked rules regarding camps and mobs being up, etc. to ensure it was a legal course of action. I wouldn't blame BDA or chalk this up to a failure on BDAs part for multiple reasons: Xetho is an admitted new app, so if there is any correlation between being in BDA and being tainted by the guild or guild leader I don't think this is the case; several BDAs member seem to even be split on the reality of this situation, some claiming it was within the rules though dickish and others saying it was against the rules and I'm a terrible person, I am also confused because all I have to go on are server rules and RnFs posts concerning similar issues; "manners maketh man" and I was too immersed and forgot there is another human being with whom I'm competing against and on this server many people play by different rules and understanding of those rules. Regardless, my experiences with BDA players has been positive, outside of this, even though I know full well that the random assortment of players and the inability to really screen personality types from playing the game will ensure that I have a negative experience with a member from every guild over a long enough time. I decided to play the Game of Thrones: Everquest Edition and use what I perceive as in-game rules to flex nuts on two players who legitimately bit off more than they could chew. I wasn't as nice as I should have been, being dictated by good manners, and nicer than I could have been. In the end, I lost out to the truly greater force - guildies and friends.

Nearly a year into game and I finally stepped hard on someone's toes. I have no real problem with Xetho and I'm sorry I forgot the rogue's name in hating me, specifically Xetho because of the differences in our personalities; a nemesis is important in a game with no real end. Anyway, feel free to gloat over your victory, Xetho! You win this time... but maybe not next, you inchoate player!

[Kekephee]

I'm not interested in any of this but let me just say I mentioned earlier that Skotos is a cool guy and we chatted when I was behind him in line. I'd like to follow up on that to say I'm surprised Skotos isn't already in BDA- here's a thread where he's camp stealing, rule lawyering, and trolling on RnF. He's a perfect fit and I vote yes

[Troxx]

Either way you look at it, I'll apologize. Sorry you two BDA members for being a dick and pushing hard into a camp where you were probably just having fun with each other. Regardless whether I was able to get the camp within the rule set, I probably shouldn't.

I officially am eating shit/crow and saying I was wrong.

Pras, man.

[ridiculousmoose]

To be fair... bda would have done the same to you if the situation were reversed.

[Nirgon]

lol omg the blue server yawl


You become better at Chortling (198)

[Swish]

I'm not interested in any of this but let me just say I mentioned earlier that Skotos is a cool guy and we chatted when I was behind him in line. I'd like to follow up on that to say I'm surprised Skotos isn't already in BDA- here's a thread where he's camp stealing, rule lawyering, and trolling on RnF. He's a perfect fit and I vote yes

I'm surprised they don't put a login queue to blue server, more lines = more fun for you folks.

[Star]

I like standing in line so I can kill a dragon 0.1% faster

[Kekephee]

I'm surprised they don't put a login queue to blue server, more lines = more fun for you folks.

I mean it's like I always say, some people like living in the crowded city and some people like living in the barren wasteland full of drug addicts and psychotics who kill you with a gang of four as you're zoning in from an empty Karnor's Castle

[Swish]

I mean it's like I always say, some people like living in the crowded city and some people like living in the barren wasteland full of drug addicts and psychotics who kill you with a gang of four as you're zoning in from an empty Karnor's Castle

Have you "seen a little...on TV"

[rollin5k]

Theres nothing wrong with being a girl. Good job dealing with with an idiot skotos, a+

[Xaanka]

hey just came from the red server to say i don't think i've ever had to wait in a line for a mob, maybe you should consider that.

[Troxx]

I mean it's like I always say, some people like living in the crowded city and some people like living in the barren wasteland full of drug addicts and psychotics who kill you with a gang of four as you're zoning in from an empty Karnor's Castle

Lol

By the way, blue is anything but crowded unless you're a masochist who intentionally likes to frequent the small handful of places that are consistently camped. At peak hours you're looking at 1500 on the box? With 3 expansions there are a lot zones that are relatively empty. The population is large enough, however, that even at off hours you can consistently find groups at the hot spots.

Raiding, if you want to compete for the prime targets, can be toxic as well ... But such content is beyond the scope of forumquesters like Swish.

[Swish]

Yeah shut up everyone and go level in Mines of Nurga, its not all camped after all...otherwise enjoy your lines, overcrowded zones and people lawyering over spawns in MM.

[Troxx]

You don't even play blue anymore; you don't have a clue. You can't base your opinion on the 0.01% of cases that land in RnF.

[Swish]

Yes I can.

[am0n]

You don't even play blue anymore; you don't have a clue. You can't base your opinion on the 0.01% of cases that land in RnF.

Swish can do anything he wants.

He's a fucking idiot, after all.