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topgun1027
10-31-2015, 11:54 PM
1 giant waste of time.

fastboy21
11-01-2015, 12:00 AM
1 giant waste of time.

how wude...

Nuggie
11-01-2015, 12:01 AM
Thanks for the fun anyways.

Oleris
11-01-2015, 12:02 AM
It was fun, I got tricked though :D Oh well, thanks for the fun Braknar.

Man0warr
11-01-2015, 12:09 AM
I got Scaled Wolf Leggings.

Lune
11-01-2015, 12:12 AM
People always have nervous breakdowns at GM events for some reason. I remember when Sirken & pals threw a trivia event in Gfay and it was a circus of temper tantrums and tears. What is it about the prospect of winning a guise that makes people so frustrated they throw a tantrum? Is it Pixel Illness? We may never know. Maybe lesser rewards was an attempt to make people less insane?

Together we can cure pixel illness. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216443)

Ssouky
11-01-2015, 12:14 AM
It was fun as a druid. Thx.
Not fun at all as a monk !

The % on ports is... slightly high =p

Overall funny.
I really wonder what happened on red.

sirelothar
11-01-2015, 12:25 AM
I got a fucking Wand of Pain. Necro only item :(

Valse
11-01-2015, 12:27 AM
You nerds feel so entitled. Brachnar did this with his free time...for no money. For a game you play all day everyday. . for free. It was a fantastic event. So what if the loot was sub par. He said he'll fix it next time.

Shit was amazingly fun! I really enjoyed it.

topgun1027
11-01-2015, 12:29 AM
You nerds feel so entitled. Brachnar did this with his free time...for no money. For a game you play all day everyday. . for free. It was a fantastic event. So what if the loot was sub par. He said he'll fix it next time.

Shit was amazingly fun! I really enjoyed it.

Sure sounded fantastic

[Sat Oct 31 20:47:12 2015] Valse says, 'fuck my life'

after you got ported from CC

Gm events should be special with special rewards. Not level 10 items. Not being ported 7 times to a shity location as a non porting class. A fun GM event would be something creative such as spawning named creatures that raids have to defeat and keep spawning harder ones as you go like 5 levels to defeat for some decent rewards. Shoot even with no rewards it would be way more fun then what happened tonight.

Tseng
11-01-2015, 12:30 AM
Thanks Braknar for the fun event!

Kushie
11-01-2015, 12:31 AM
My final turn in reward was lore, got nothing. Earthquake please

Vallanor
11-01-2015, 12:32 AM
My final turn in reward was lore, got nothing. Earthquake please

Same. I did have fun though.

Valse
11-01-2015, 12:37 AM
Sure sounded fantastic

[Sat Oct 31 20:47:12 2015] Valse says, 'fuck my life'

after you got ported from CC

Gm events should be special with special rewards. Not level 10 items. Not being ported 7 times to a shity location as a non porting class. A fun GM event would be something creative such as spawning named creatures that raids have to defeat and keep spawning harder ones as you go like 5 levels to defeat for some decent rewards. Shoot even with no rewards it would be way more fun then what happened tonight.

I can certianlly say "fuck my life" to my suckiness at RNG. Doesn't mean it wasn't entertaining.

4 surefall ports was my total. I laughed each time!

JayDee
11-01-2015, 12:41 AM
Joke is on us

silo32
11-01-2015, 12:43 AM
so last year people got guises and this year people didn't get god tier or legendary loot and are al QQ

I saw iksars with guises last year, classic?

I dunno glad the didn't give out god tier loot like they usually do and this event was actually fun :D

sirelothar
11-01-2015, 12:52 AM
The event itself wasn't bad but if you expect people to spend 3 hours on a quest that you made and the result is a +5 disease range slot item that's worth 1 plat and can't even use then don't see something wrong with that picture then I don't know what to tell you. The quest takes you through lvl 50+ zones and it's not really something a low level can easily complete which is what I feel 99% of these reward items are targeted for.

Valse
11-01-2015, 12:54 AM
The event itself wasn't bad but if you expect people to spend 3 hours on a quest that you made and the result is a +5 disease range slot item that's worth 1 plat and can't even use then don't see something wrong with that picture then I don't know what to tell you. The quest takes you through lvl 50+ zones and it's not really something a low level can easily complete which is what I feel 99% of these reward items are targeted for.

They already admited fault in the bad loot tables and will fix it in the future. Can't expect more than that at this point.

jcr4990
11-01-2015, 12:56 AM
They already admited fault in the bad loot tables and will fix it in the future. Can't expect more than that at this point.
Except maybe pulling logs of everyone that completed and adding retroactive worthwhile rewards :P

Skew
11-01-2015, 01:00 AM
I'd settle for the toilet paper not being temporary item. Braknar can you trade my reward back to toilet paper please?

HethGnome
11-01-2015, 01:05 AM
Two ports(as a rogue), 1 death, 4 hours, and...........feathered leggings and werewolf illusion. What a fucking waste of time.

To clarify, NPCs ported me twice. It totaled about 8 ports after all the running around.

Juevento
11-01-2015, 01:06 AM
I'll have you know that feathered legs used to be the 2nd best rogue legs in the game (aside from Mrylokar's).

krazyGlue
11-01-2015, 01:07 AM
I got a guise on red . Maybe you pals should make the switch

punkbythebook12
11-01-2015, 01:16 AM
Red blows :)

krazyGlue
11-01-2015, 01:17 AM
Red blows :)

I have a guise and you seem upset

jonny4fingers
11-01-2015, 01:18 AM
It was better than nothing. It was better than my last colonoscopy for sure.

Blade
11-01-2015, 01:39 AM
I got to meet a ton of new people, and bullshit with them. I got to do something other than grind for 3 hours. I got to have a new experience and kinda had fun.

But I'm gonna complain because I didn't get great loot.

Jesus fucking christ.

DeathByCactus
11-01-2015, 01:44 AM
Sure sounded fantastic

[Sat Oct 31 20:47:12 2015] Valse says, 'fuck my life'

after you got ported from CC

Gm events should be special with special rewards. Not level 10 items. Not being ported 7 times to a shity location as a non porting class. A fun GM event would be something creative such as spawning named creatures that raids have to defeat and keep spawning harder ones as you go like 5 levels to defeat for some decent rewards. Shoot even with no rewards it would be way more fun then what happened tonight.

I don't entirely agree. The event was hilarious for the first part until Kunark. After that the IC was hilarious. The ports after Antonica were excessive and tired however, we could have done without.

Ideally, it would have been awesome if there were mobs that we could have killed a while on the way to one place or the next. Even boss mobs, but we kill things all the time in this game. Something different is not terrible.

Pokesan
11-01-2015, 01:46 AM
It was fun and I'm glad to have participated. Braknar put a lot of work into this and made a small error, it happens. I believe he intended the rewards to be, well, more rewarding. It was an oopsie for sure but please keep in mind the effort these kind of things entail.

pras braknar

Swish
11-01-2015, 04:24 AM
yikes, some of these entitled messages...immersion and expectation levels off the charts.

myriverse
11-01-2015, 10:36 AM
1 giant waste of time.
There's no gun leveled at your head. The whole game's a freaking giant waste of time. You choose how to waste it.

Saker
11-01-2015, 11:13 AM
It was better than nothing. It was better than my last colonoscopy for sure.

colonoscopy would have been more fun, at least a good outcome (to have had the check done).

Saker
11-01-2015, 11:15 AM
The event itself wasn't bad but if you expect people to spend 3 hours on a quest that you made and the result is a +5 disease range slot item that's worth 1 plat and can't even use then don't see something wrong with that picture then I don't know what to tell you. The quest takes you through lvl 50+ zones and it's not really something a low level can easily complete which is what I feel 99% of these reward items are targeted for.

these things always designed just to coddle the high levels. never any consideration of the lower.

Calibretto
11-01-2015, 11:15 AM
colonoscopy would have been more fun, at least a good outcome (to have had the check done).

Don't lie. You really like the "outcome" =p

Swish
11-01-2015, 11:17 AM
I wonder why we don't have more GM events? If I were Braknar or whoever runs an event and gets this kind of criticism I'd be tempted to say "no more"...

People can't whine and complain about an event if it wasnt held in the first place etc.

Anichek
11-01-2015, 11:20 AM
I wonder why we don't have more GM events? If I were Braknar or whoever runs an event and gets this kind of criticism I'd be tempted to say "no more"...

People can't whine and complain about an event if it wasnt held in the first place etc.

Touche

EsmyD
11-01-2015, 11:38 AM
well as someone quoted somewhere saying that this was braks first time, thats fine an all... but umm where the hell was the other devs giving tips on what to do and not do ? did they just say hey make an event GL... i mean really you say you had "reasons" for ending it on a dime?? then why not say hey everyone making an event.. going from 9-2 est..

and like many say it was a fun event, but really if you're going to have people porting all over the place... then make it zones where EVERYONE can get to and not have to worry about dieing. ITS A HOLIDAY EVENT! idk why you would make it so people die and lose exp. since i know its not easy getting exp 50+

should of just had a guy at every city ( out front a little ways, not right next to gaurds for them to kill people) you had to talk to and get an item from. and then go to kith/nek and kill mobs and collect a certain item then turn them in and get an award. at least then more people would of finished IMO and all levels could join in

Anichek
11-01-2015, 11:42 AM
From my point of view, having been on this box for the better part of 5 years, it's disheartening to see people complain about an event like this.

Failure to recognize the work that the Dev team and Server Staff put in, failure to acknowledge the planning, coding, and execution that has to be in place for an event like this. It's a slap in the face to the P99 management team.

Be happy they care enough to do events. Be happy they care enough to have this box open for us to play on.

Stop looking the gift horse in the mouth.

Aviann
11-01-2015, 11:44 AM
300 people hailing the same mob at the same time in Kithicor was definitely a waste of time. Just /q'd out after it started and I saw what was going down. 2/10... and the 2 is only because he actually made an event, thanks anyways dude..

fastboy21
11-01-2015, 11:47 AM
Really?

You're gonna post to complain about a holiday GM event? GMs are too cool headed to tell you where to stick your complaint...

When all you care about is the reward I don't even understand how you wind up playing on an EQ emu in the first place.

Aviann
11-01-2015, 11:49 AM
Really?

You're gonna post to complain about a holiday GM event? GMs are too cool headed to tell you where to stick your complaint...

When all you care about is the reward I don't even understand how you wind up playing on an EQ emu in the first place.

I didn't care about the reward, I cared about the fun and exciting experience. Unfortunately, it wasn't either of those. Get off your high horse, at least we gave it a shot instead of saying "Screw Brakner he's a turd"

Kagey
11-01-2015, 12:07 PM
I got more loot by not going to the event. candy and beers all night.

fastboy21
11-01-2015, 12:23 PM
I didn't care about the reward, I cared about the fun and exciting experience. Unfortunately, it wasn't either of those. Get off your high horse, at least we gave it a shot instead of saying "Screw Brakner he's a turd"

Actually, that's pretty close to what some folks HAVE said in this thread.

EsmyD
11-01-2015, 12:25 PM
i cared about actually finishing an event... from what people were saying rewards were shit anyway, didnt care about that, would of been nice to actually finish it...

and as far as dev team making this.. if THEY all actually helped then.. thats pretty dumb how crappy this turned out, they need to take in consideration of EVERYONE when doing these not just cater to high lvl people...

gildor
11-01-2015, 12:28 PM
I see these holidays as an opportunity to toss us some custom content..IE: why not tune the Saryn event from nightmares, or the Hedge etc...bring some of the BEST encounters from EQ history (POP) to this amazing server?

Sadre Spinegnawer
11-01-2015, 12:58 PM
I was hoping the Stay Puft Marshmellow Man would rampage through west commons. Maybe next year.

astuce999
11-01-2015, 01:58 PM
I think this GM event was actually pretty awesome. The amount of work put in for the clues and the npc's and the tricks was great. As a suggestion for future events though, when it comes to rewards, perhaps draw from the list of actual GM event rewards from live a long time ago, not the super expansion events, but the mini-events that happened. This NPC has the list of rewards that were given out, it's almost complete, there are a few items missing from that list, including a few artifacts. None of those items are game-breaking though, so would be appropriate.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6611

Astuce

Llandris
11-01-2015, 02:07 PM
Let me ask you guys this; if there was no event, what would you have done? Personally I think it was a great job by Braknar, and he can learn from what went wrong. Give the guy some credit, he coded it pretty much all by himself.

Danth
11-01-2015, 02:11 PM
"Let me ask you guys this; if there was no event, what would you have done? "

Presumably the same thing they'd do any other night. The wife and I liked the event. We did not go to the event. We liked it because Velketor's was completely empty so we had the zone to ourselves to duo in for a few hours during primetime--not something that happens often!

As for GM event item rewards, perhaps it's worth mentioning--perhaps someone else already mentioned--that there should exist within the database a significant number of classic GM event items which cannot be obtained in-game via other means, yet which are also typically far from being overpowered. Such status symbols are probably the types of rewards many players participating in these types of events hope for.

Danth

Jfertal
11-01-2015, 02:16 PM
Let me ask you guys this; if there was no event, what would you have done? Personally I think it was a great job by Braknar, and he can learn from what went wrong. Give the guy some credit, he coded it pretty much all by himself.


lol you're fucking serious with that question?


gone out and partied earlier? Halloween is the best god damn holiday ever. A halloween Gm event is usually the best event ever, regardless of the rewards. The tricks werent that good, I mean tis halloween man!!!!and the treats were kinda eh.

a gm event is like twice a year thing, which is sometimes funner then going to house parties.

Some of the more creative events were better then sitting around shooting pool and throwing darts with a few buddies


Im sure it took a lot of time to code all of that, impressive for sure. but maybe you guys should of helped his creative side =)

bktroost
11-01-2015, 02:19 PM
he coded it pretty much all by himself.

Why? That's the issue people are addressing. Brak was awesome for putting on an event, but why is PR on this server a hobby equivalent to putting together ships in a bottle? Sirken stream and GM events are the only thing that brings the entire server together and that's only for those who actually watch it.

There's a saying in company management : culture eats strategy for breakfast.

If staff leadership put a higher priority on events that are driven by very specific culture points then you could unify the server. That also applies to handling smaller community events ( raid encounters/rules).

You don't have time to? You don't have time not to.

Gratz Brak for caring. Sorry that you're alone in that effort. I appreciate what your doing for the server.

Swish
11-01-2015, 02:22 PM
Im sure it took a lot of time to code all of that, impressive for sure. but maybe you guys should of helped his creative side =)

ouch, poor Braknar... I wasn't on but it can't have been that bad. If you want a storyline written by a leading author, start donating bigger bucks.

Jfertal
11-01-2015, 02:23 PM
Why? That's the issue people are addressing. Brak was awesome for putting on an event, but why is PR on this server a hobby equivalent to putting together ships in a bottle? Sirken stream and GM events are the only thing that brings the entire server together and that's only for those who actually watch it.

There's a saying in company management : culture eats strategy for breakfast.

If staff leadership put a higher priority on events that are driven by very specific culture points then you could unify the server. That also applies to handling smaller community events ( raid encounters/rules).

You don't have time to? You don't have time not to.

Gratz Brak for caring. Sorry that you're alone in that effort. I appreciate what your doing for the server.


All i read whenever you post is you're idiotic comparison of rape in the the raid discussion.

you are super cringy.

Jfertal
11-01-2015, 02:25 PM
ouch, poor Braknar... I wasn't on but it can't have been that bad. If you want a storyline written by a leading author, start donating bigger bucks.

I donate quite often man. And i don't donate to have anything "written" better or done better, I just like the server

how has the gym been lately? is that why you werent on? weird

Llandris
11-01-2015, 02:28 PM
Why? That's the issue people are addressing. Brak was awesome for putting on an event, but why is PR on this server a hobby equivalent to putting together ships in a bottle? Sirken stream and GM events are the only thing that brings the entire server together and that's only for those who actually watch it.

There's a saying in company management : culture eats strategy for breakfast.

If staff leadership put a higher priority on events that are driven by very specific culture points then you could unify the server. That also applies to handling smaller community events ( raid encounters/rules).

You don't have time to? You don't have time not to.

Gratz Brak for caring. Sorry that you're alone in that effort. I appreciate what your doing for the server.

Braknar coded it prior to any of the new guides being brought on. He had input from Leadership, but this was his baby.

More events will come, now that there is plenty of help. I don't think you should be questioning the priorities of the staff, as all of us volunteer to make this server a desirable place to play.

Bromgard
11-01-2015, 02:31 PM
I was online and didn't bother with the event because I predicted the rewards wouldn't be worth my time compared to the alternatives.

I play on Red, therefore I have aspergers and my IQ is under 90. Yet I somehow was able to figure that out without a problem. Don't blame other people because your addiction to pixels led you to make a bad choice. If you want to go out and party on Halloween instead of chasing pixels, then go do it ffs. You all make yourselves sound so pathetic.

Jfertal
11-01-2015, 02:32 PM
Braknar coded it prior to any of the new guides being brought on. He had input from Leadership, but this was his baby.

More events will come, now that there is plenty of help. I don't think you should be questioning the priorities of the staff, as all of us volunteer to make this server a desirable place to play.

how dare us question!

How dare us have an opinion

how dare us!!!!

Braknar
11-01-2015, 02:38 PM
how dare us question!

How dare us have an opinion

how dare us!!!!

So fat...

<3

Danth
11-01-2015, 02:41 PM
While I didn't participate in the event personally, many of my in-game friends did. For what it's worth, all of those I talked to went into it expecting little in the way of final reward and saw the event as something different to do versus the standard daily grind. It's quite possible--likely, even--that there's a silent majority who were happy enough with it as-run.

Danth

Safon
11-01-2015, 02:45 PM
how dare us question!

How dare us have an opinion

how dare us!!!!

You sound mad

Jfertal
11-01-2015, 02:46 PM
So fat...

<3

I LOVE YOU, thanks again for yours and sirkens help last night man!

bktroost
11-01-2015, 02:56 PM
Braknar coded it prior to any of the new guides being brought on. He had input from Leadership, but this was his baby.

More events will come, now that there is plenty of help. I don't think you should be questioning the priorities of the staff, as all of us volunteer to make this server a desirable place to play.

If two people on a project agree completely then one of them is useless.

I see my opinions are not recognized as a resource of any value. Maybe fatty's opinion will provide the feedback that you need. Or maybe you're just not interested in anyone's opinion but the staff. /shrug

I just want to see a better server and think Brak doing PR events are a step in the right direction... but it doesn't feel like it's staff backed, but rather a single person's interest.

Jfertal
11-01-2015, 03:00 PM
If two people on a project agree completely then one of them is useless.

I see my opinions are not recognized as a resource of any value. Maybe fatty's opinion will provide the feedback that you need. Or maybe you're just not interested in anyone's opinion but the staff. /shrug

I just want to see a better server and think Brak doing PR events are a step in the right direction... but it doesn't feel like it's staff backed, but rather a single person's interest.

nah man i shouldnt be on forums right now, probbaly the first time i woke up this drunk still before.

Llandris
11-01-2015, 03:06 PM
I just want to see a better server and think Brak doing PR events are a step in the right direction... but it doesn't feel like it's staff backed, but rather a single person's interest.

You are wrong. I don't know what else to tell you.

Jfertal
11-01-2015, 03:14 PM
You are wrong. I don't know what else to tell you.

hit him

Jfertal
11-01-2015, 03:59 PM
You sound mad

really not mad at all. I think im not very articulate? I have a tough time expressing the right emotion or thoughts through emails and chat, especially when I'm super hungover.

Well hair of the dog here we go! lets get the beers crackin.

I not upset at all really at the loots, I have 2 guised characters, a shaman and a paladin. I should have three, but chest is a fucking tyrant, and souless tyrant.

I believe it was Halloween 2012? Plane of hate was reset, instead of there being regular mobs they were replaced with ashenbone drakes. Funny thing is they didnt see invis, me and chest ran up and pulled inny, he took the DT then I solo pulled inny to zone in. Inny ends up being Ks'd by fuck ton of FE wizards/rogues.

We finally got the corpses unlocked fomr FE crew.

Inny loot table was replaced with 3 guises, I feel me and him deserved two of them, while we let the rest of the BDA rats fight for the last.

He is a POS. Decides the most fair way to do things is have everyone roll for it. What a piece of shit right?
He fucking wins won.
Jennithia wins won, not sure who the third one was, probably some BDA casual on welfare, chest who was it?

Sloan on the other hand is fucking going ape shit in /shout how the pull was illegal, that the loot was supposed to be split across the server etc.
Im drunk as fuck, it ihnk i rolled like a 3, should of gotten a +XXX added to my rolls because im fattyfatty. I'm Pretty fucking awesome.

Lot of people were upset that night, fucking BDA ruins everything. Talk about people being super mad at server staff that night for not getting a guise lol.

unfortunately most events cater to the druid ranger. Rangers with that fucking OP ranger gate.

Can we have an unorthodox zombie Christmas? Dain is santa, and zombies invade thurg. Slay santa dain all over his fucked throne that is lined with zombie corpses.

have him like bound to his throne so no one can do some fucked up pull and train away his staff, having to engage santa dain and his staff of gay ass elves(dwarves i guess)

Ivory
11-01-2015, 05:31 PM
If you want a storyline written by a leading author, start donating bigger bucks.

Imma professional game developer :D And offered to be a guide and put on events / do stuff for free....but they turned me down :o

So instead I just go around as a gnome charming undead and telling jokes.

http://media3.giphy.com/media/K6VhXtbgCXqQU/giphy.gif

bktroost
11-01-2015, 06:59 PM
You are wrong. I don't know what else to tell you.

I'm not saying that staff isn't backing him. I'm just telling you what the perception is. In that, I cannot be wrong, I can only be deemed an opinion that is "not worth listening to." I understand you are taking offense and I apologize for the negative nature of this discussion, but I'm trying to give a public perception.

Pokesan
11-01-2015, 07:02 PM
I dislike people who don't understand how analogies work, choosing to take them as a literal comparison. Jerkasses.

simp403
11-01-2015, 07:17 PM
All the people complaining are a bunch of entitled little shits.

B4EQWASCOOL
11-01-2015, 07:22 PM
You're all fat. Go outside.

simp403
11-01-2015, 07:26 PM
You're all fat. Go outside.

no ur fat

fastboy21
11-01-2015, 07:37 PM
mmmm fat

my doctor says i have to eat less sugar on account of the diabetes...so fat is a very important part of my diet lately.

James_Joyce
11-01-2015, 09:09 PM
There's a saying in company management : culture eats strategy for breakfast.


http://i.imgur.com/MkDWbeq.gif

Braknar
11-01-2015, 09:22 PM
Imma professional game developer :D And offered to be a guide and put on events / do stuff for free....but they turned me down :o

So instead I just go around as a gnome charming undead and telling jokes.

http://media3.giphy.com/media/K6VhXtbgCXqQU/giphy.gif

Funny. Going back to 2014, I don't see an app from you in the guide applications forum.

Kekephee
11-01-2015, 09:41 PM
God forbid anybody does something in this game for an experience rather than for an item


You people need to remember the magic

iruinedyourday
11-01-2015, 10:42 PM
God forbid anybody does something in this game for an experience rather than for an item


You people need to remember the magic

I do and i want to cast that magic on myself for once in 16 years and turn into a dark elf /mytears

Tethler
11-01-2015, 10:49 PM
Halloween is the best god damn holiday ever.

Thanksgiving is the superior holiday.

RevSaber
11-02-2015, 03:47 AM
All the people that "had fun" were people with bind and gate. The rest of us suffered but i feel worse for the porters that stuck around helping people - only to get screwed out of completing the quest when we were all in velious getting ported to SFG 100 times in a row.

Ivory
11-02-2015, 03:49 AM
Funny. Going back to 2014, I don't see an app from you in the guide applications forum.

Did someone delete it? :o I even chatted with Derubael on skypes :P ((Oh, I found it, it was on 8-27-2014 : http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163306 ))

Actually, one of his biggest problems with me was that I wanted to do GM events at all (lol) and that I was excited about the possibility of interacting with players :P He kept saying that I might have to -gasp- recover peoples bodies or help with petitions (he was saying that to a person who mains a cleric LOL, even after I told him that helping people is what I do for fun and I would love to -_-).

Then again, a professionally creative / social person being given GM powers does sound like trouble... and highly unpredictable! What if role playing broke out spontaneously or something? :o

-shrug- I just thought it was weird you guys turned away someone like me who just wanted to make the server better. Especially since it was around the time you guys kept saying how much you needed more guides to help out (and even more especially since I'm already a game developer :o).

From the impression I was getting, you guys just don't want to have more GM events. Guide powers are extremely limited and to actually reach the level of a GM with abilities to give rewards or anything it apparently takes years (so they can trust you or something).

Oh well, it isn't my server :) I'll just be a gnome doing gnome stuff instead.

http://media.giphy.com/media/Cx7yNo5TsPQru/giphy.gif

Tasslehofp99
11-02-2015, 04:14 AM
seriously I would ban all of the ungrateful wretches talking smack...


I was around for the beginning of the event but had to go to work so missed the end. I would've had fun finishing it even though that bastard at mistmoore zone line ported me 5 times regardless of what the reward was. This game is about the community and events like this bring people together in a way that nothing else does.

I appreciate the staff putting their time into this and look forward to next one if I can hopefully take part.

Swish
11-02-2015, 08:15 AM
I had some great ideas for events a couple of years ago... basically ignored when I mentioned them.

Maybe we need a subforum to allow for that creative spark, but more likely we just shouldn't have any events because there's always backlash and everyone gets mad about their free gaming.

drktmplr12
11-02-2015, 12:07 PM
Gm events should be special with special rewards. Not level 10 items. Not being ported 7 times to a shity location as a non porting class. A fun GM event would be something creative such as spawning named creatures that raids have to defeat and keep spawning harder ones as you go like 5 levels to defeat for some decent rewards. Shoot even with no rewards it would be way more fun then what happened tonight.

have you considered volunteering?

maestrom
11-02-2015, 12:47 PM
The problem with having raid-level content required for completing an event is that not everyone on this server raids. GM events that require killing a raid boss in order to finish an event exclude a giant chunk of the server from participating.

Traveling, while it's easier for druids/wizards/bards, is something that pretty much everyone can do. In fact, there doesn't really seem to be anything in this event that couldn't be done by someone in their mid 30s.

I think that a less port dependent version might have been better. Maybe have it be a circuit around only Antonica or something.

I would absolutely get behind a raid event, as long as participation were rewarded rather than completion. For example.

Invent a new faction: Path of Thule.

Raid portion: Turn Kithicor into a plane of fear style raid zone. But the mobs give +Path of Thule faction. This will let nubs run in, tag a few mobs, and get some faction. Final raid boss dies and spawns quest NPC.

Those who have enough faction (5-10 faction hits?) will be able to go through the quest text and have a shot at a rare item. Completion of the quest text results in -2000 path of thule faction (so you can only do it once).

I kinda like this actually.

Edit: Actually, if someone who has more scripting experience could let me know. I imagine there's no difference in the game when it comes to quest text. Does hailing a mob and going through quest text that results in an item behave the same way as doing an item turn in?

If it requires a turn in, the spawn at the end of the raid could just give a token on hail, and then that token could be turned in to reward NPC, which would result in the faction reduction.

Also. This could do a lead in to a shorter travel portion of the event. Maybe a run around Karanas, or all of Antonica, where you have to turn in both the raid token and the travel token to get your reward... OR. It could be an either or or both. The raid participation token and the travel token could be turned in for 2 rewards.

I also think that "rare" should not automatically mean guise. But it should be meaningful to the person. It would take MUCH more work, but maybe the hail text could be tailored to the specific class/race of the quest doer. "I am an iksar of thule." + "I follow the path of the shadow knight." which would yield a token that when turned in would give a piece of race/class relevant loot with a small chance of guise.

Lets be real. I want a guise.

Swish
11-02-2015, 12:50 PM
The problem with having raid-level content required for completing an event is that not everyone on this server raids. GM events that require killing a raid boss in order to finish an event exclude a giant chunk of the server from participating.

Traveling, while it's easier for druids/wizards/bards, is something that pretty much everyone can do. In fact, there doesn't really seem to be anything in this event that couldn't be done by someone in their mid 30s.

I think that a less port dependent version might have been better. Maybe have it be a circuit around only Antonica or something.

I would absolutely get behind a raid event, as long as participation were rewarded rather than completion. For example.

Invent a new faction: Path of Thule.

Raid portion: Turn Kithicor into a plane of fear style raid zone. But the mobs give +Path of Thule faction. This will let nubs run in, tag a few mobs, and get some faction. Final raid boss dies and spawns quest NPC.

Those who have enough faction (5-10 faction hits?) will be able to go through the quest text and have a shot at a rare item. Completion of the quest text results in -2000 path of thule faction (so you can only do it once).

I kinda like this actually.

I could get behind that, but I don't think "rare" should automatically mean guise/manastone/etc

Braknar
11-02-2015, 01:08 PM
Did someone delete it? :o I even chatted with Derubael on skypes :P ((Oh, I found it, it was on 8-27-2014 : http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163306 ))

Actually, one of his biggest problems with me was that I wanted to do GM events at all (lol) and that I was excited about the possibility of interacting with players :P He kept saying that I might have to -gasp- recover peoples bodies or help with petitions (he was saying that to a person who mains a cleric LOL, even after I told him that helping people is what I do for fun and I would love to -_-).

Then again, a professionally creative / social person being given GM powers does sound like trouble... and highly unpredictable! What if role playing broke out spontaneously or something? :o

-shrug- I just thought it was weird you guys turned away someone like me who just wanted to make the server better. Especially since it was around the time you guys kept saying how much you needed more guides to help out (and even more especially since I'm already a game developer :o).

From the impression I was getting, you guys just don't want to have more GM events. Guide powers are extremely limited and to actually reach the level of a GM with abilities to give rewards or anything it apparently takes years (so they can trust you or something).

Oh well, it isn't my server :) I'll just be a gnome doing gnome stuff instead.

http://media.giphy.com/media/Cx7yNo5TsPQru/giphy.gif

So ya. Some things to know. If you want to be on staff and do ONLY events, then yes we would not likely pass you on. Our first priority is CSR style things, of which there is a mountain. I don't ONLY do events, in fact, I would say events would be pretty low on the "What does Braknar do?" list.

So if you are unwilling or uninterested in ANY CSR, then yes, I could see you being denied.

If you are still interested, I would invite you to re-apply as we're always keeping an eye on apps. We did just add 3 new guys, but as I said, we're always keeping an eye out.

Braknar
11-02-2015, 01:09 PM
The problem with having raid-level content required for completing an event is that not everyone on this server raids. GM events that require killing a raid boss in order to finish an event exclude a giant chunk of the server from participating.

Traveling, while it's easier for druids/wizards/bards, is something that pretty much everyone can do. In fact, there doesn't really seem to be anything in this event that couldn't be done by someone in their mid 30s.

I think that a less port dependent version might have been better. Maybe have it be a circuit around only Antonica or something.

I would absolutely get behind a raid event, as long as participation were rewarded rather than completion. For example.

Invent a new faction: Path of Thule.

Raid portion: Turn Kithicor into a plane of fear style raid zone. But the mobs give +Path of Thule faction. This will let nubs run in, tag a few mobs, and get some faction. Final raid boss dies and spawns quest NPC.

Those who have enough faction (5-10 faction hits?) will be able to go through the quest text and have a shot at a rare item. Completion of the quest text results in -2000 path of thule faction (so you can only do it once).

I kinda like this actually.

Edit: Actually, if someone who has more scripting experience could let me know. I imagine there's no difference in the game when it comes to quest text. Does hailing a mob and going through quest text that results in an item behave the same way as doing an item turn in?

If it requires a turn in, the spawn at the end of the raid could just give a token on hail, and then that token could be turned in to reward NPC, which would result in the faction reduction.

Also. This could do a lead in to a shorter travel portion of the event. Maybe a run around Karanas, or all of Antonica, where you have to turn in both the raid token and the travel token to get your reward... OR. It could be an either or or both. The raid participation token and the travel token could be turned in for 2 rewards.

I also think that "rare" should not automatically mean guise. But it should be meaningful to the person. It would take MUCH more work, but maybe the hail text could be tailored to the specific class/race of the quest doer. "I am an iksar of thule." + "I follow the path of the shadow knight." which would yield a token that when turned in would give a piece of race/class relevant loot with a small chance of guise.

Lets be real. I want a guise.


I like it!

maestrom
11-02-2015, 01:11 PM
I like it!

My consulting fee is a guise for myself and a guise for a friend.

Swish
11-02-2015, 01:19 PM
3 new guys? I see Llandris (I think it's Llandewen from Europa because he posts during Euro times) waving his finger at me in my inbox but haven't seen the other two yet - who are they? :p

Llandris
11-02-2015, 01:24 PM
3 new guys? I see Llandris (I think it's Llandewen from Europa because he posts during Euro times) waving his finger at me in my inbox but haven't seen the other two yet - who are they? :p

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128771

Swish
11-02-2015, 01:26 PM
did you update that for me? im touched Llandewen, thanks :)

looking forward to meeting the others.

maestrom
11-02-2015, 01:35 PM
I like it!

PS.

In the spirit of inclusion. Don't give the final boss an AE, which will just kill all the sub 50's that are trying to help. Instead, maybe make him/her Rampage every swing, and mem-blur every few seconds. This will throw a lot of damage around without making it so you need to be a full-blown raider in order to have a chance of contributing.

Thinking a low-resist, low-avoidance, high hit point (think Luclin mob), vindi-statue hitting target. The raid guilds will be there, but let everyone contribute.

Or put raid targets in 4-5 different zones that all must be killed, to help with zone load.

Braknar
11-02-2015, 01:44 PM
3 new guys? I see Llandris (I think it's Llandewen from Europa because he posts during Euro times) waving his finger at me in my inbox but haven't seen the other two yet - who are they? :p

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001771495/2811246957_OhYOU_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg

Ella`Ella
11-02-2015, 02:59 PM
really not mad at all. I think im not very articulate? I have a tough time expressing the right emotion or thoughts through emails and chat, especially when I'm super hungover.

Well hair of the dog here we go! lets get the beers crackin.

I not upset at all really at the loots, I have 2 guised characters, a shaman and a paladin. I should have three, but chest is a fucking tyrant, and souless tyrant.

I believe it was Halloween 2012? Plane of hate was reset, instead of there being regular mobs they were replaced with ashenbone drakes. Funny thing is they didnt see invis, me and chest ran up and pulled inny, he took the DT then I solo pulled inny to zone in. Inny ends up being Ks'd by fuck ton of FE wizards/rogues.

We finally got the corpses unlocked fomr FE crew.

Inny loot table was replaced with 3 guises, I feel me and him deserved two of them, while we let the rest of the BDA rats fight for the last.

He is a POS. Decides the most fair way to do things is have everyone roll for it. What a piece of shit right?
He fucking wins won.
Jennithia wins won, not sure who the third one was, probably some BDA casual on welfare, chest who was it?

Sloan on the other hand is fucking going ape shit in /shout how the pull was illegal, that the loot was supposed to be split across the server etc.
Im drunk as fuck, it ihnk i rolled like a 3, should of gotten a +XXX added to my rolls because im fattyfatty. I'm Pretty fucking awesome.

Lot of people were upset that night, fucking BDA ruins everything. Talk about people being super mad at server staff that night for not getting a guise lol.

unfortunately most events cater to the druid ranger. Rangers with that fucking OP ranger gate.

Can we have an unorthodox zombie Christmas? Dain is santa, and zombies invade thurg. Slay santa dain all over his fucked throne that is lined with zombie corpses.

have him like bound to his throne so no one can do some fucked up pull and train away his staff, having to engage santa dain and his staff of gay ass elves(dwarves i guess)

Apeople got the 3rd guise.

But 4srs, you could have gone to the gym and back in the time it took to write this bullshit.

Jfertal
11-02-2015, 03:13 PM
Took a week off because i was on call.

Swish
11-02-2015, 03:51 PM
sounds like theres a shed load of guises floating around.

Jfertal
11-02-2015, 04:56 PM
sounds like theres a shed load of guises floating around.

I agree, there are dozens more then any other live server. Hell i would love one on my sk.

Be great to see some more gm event items offered out at events for rewards. I have a few on my ranger from some of the very first events.

The stats sucks compared to stuff now, but super cool to have unique no drop items that wont just be sold to some ding dong

Ivory
11-02-2015, 05:42 PM
So ya. Some things to know. If you want to be on staff and do ONLY events, then yes we would not likely pass you on. Our first priority is CSR style things, of which there is a mountain. I don't ONLY do events, in fact, I would say events would be pretty low on the "What does Braknar do?" list.

Well, it really doesn't seem to be about what I say. For some reason you guys see an interest in player interaction and focus in on that thinking that means the person doesn't want to do CSR stuff.

Like my above post I said I main a cleric and go around helping people for fun (which would mean CSR stuff is fine)...but it just didn't register. Also I'm a game dev that troubleshoots for players...for...a...living....(I run my own studio and handle the public relations as well)....so, obviously, it is just a normal part of my wheelhouse. But still, it doesn't seem to be a thing that connects.

When I say I want to have fun with players, suddenly all of it goes out the window and you guys just see "oh this person is just going to sit around as a giant gnome all day!!!!" ((which is crazy, because being a giant gnome is going against what makes gnomes so awesome to begin with! More likely it would be a tiny gnome. Except that is dangerous, since if you shrink a gnome, they become too dense in awesomeness and it creates an awesome black hole o.O )).

Anyhow! The entire thing is so strange haha.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gqhD8s2d2BY/UdNTmLS6PwI/AAAAAAAAQd4/4DVlF-nE-Xk/s500/gfg10.gif

Braknar
11-02-2015, 06:23 PM
So I can see why you were passed over. Your attitude is very.. cocky. Your text communication comes off as condescending and arrogant. Not sure if that's your intent, but that is the perception I have, and likely what Derubael picked up on in your skype conversation(s).

Like my above post I said I main a cleric and go around helping people for fun (which would mean CSR stuff is fine)

This shows me you have absolutely no idea what doing CSR in an MMO is about. It has more in common with being an elementary school teacher in a playground than playing a cleric. Or even being a dispute mediator. Just a desire to "help players out" is not all that is needed. It's commendable, sure, but not the defining characteristic.

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 06:44 PM
really not mad at all. I think im not very articulate? I have a tough time expressing the right emotion or thoughts through emails and chat, especially when I'm super hungover.

Well hair of the dog here we go! lets get the beers crackin.

I not upset at all really at the loots, I have 2 guised characters, a shaman and a paladin. I should have three, but chest is a fucking tyrant, and souless tyrant.

I believe it was Halloween 2012? Plane of hate was reset, instead of there being regular mobs they were replaced with ashenbone drakes. Funny thing is they didnt see invis, me and chest ran up and pulled inny, he took the DT then I solo pulled inny to zone in. Inny ends up being Ks'd by fuck ton of FE wizards/rogues.

We finally got the corpses unlocked fomr FE crew.

Inny loot table was replaced with 3 guises, I feel me and him deserved two of them, while we let the rest of the BDA rats fight for the last.

He is a POS. Decides the most fair way to do things is have everyone roll for it. What a piece of shit right?
He fucking wins won.
Jennithia wins won, not sure who the third one was, probably some BDA casual on welfare, chest who was it?

Sloan on the other hand is fucking going ape shit in /shout how the pull was illegal, that the loot was supposed to be split across the server etc.
Im drunk as fuck, it ihnk i rolled like a 3, should of gotten a +XXX added to my rolls because im fattyfatty. I'm Pretty fucking awesome.

Lot of people were upset that night, fucking BDA ruins everything. Talk about people being super mad at server staff that night for not getting a guise lol.

unfortunately most events cater to the druid ranger. Rangers with that fucking OP ranger gate.

Can we have an unorthodox zombie Christmas? Dain is santa, and zombies invade thurg. Slay santa dain all over his fucked throne that is lined with zombie corpses.

have him like bound to his throne so no one can do some fucked up pull and train away his staff, having to engage santa dain and his staff of gay ass elves(dwarves i guess)

I just wont won goise just won

if i won won on a woll i would be so happy

just won for me i want won so bad.

Ivory
11-02-2015, 07:07 PM
So I can see why you were passed over. Your attitude is very.. cocky. Your text communication comes off as condescending and arrogant. Not sure if that's your intent, but that is the perception I have, and likely what Derubael picked up on in your skype conversation(s).

-shrug- Keep up the good work then :D Like I said, you guys just don't want help. Keep on thinking that running around answering some petitions is super hard work :P And that scripting out a GM event is an insane task.

Haha it is like someone at McDonald telling a chef the seriousness of how to put the fries in the fryer...LOL. "What, what do you mean putting fries in a fryer isn't even something we need to talk a lot about?! That is pretty cocky!!! You don't grasp the complexities of the fryer!"

"Yea, actually, I own my own restaurant and do this for a living....making fries is actually the very easiest job..."

Sorry, I don't care enough to "fight" and "prove myself" to help out :P I was offering professional help for free, you guys weren't interested -shrug- You would rather play some weird hierarchical pecking order stuff -_-

I've earned where I am in the real world already, I'm not going to argue with a junior manager of a McDonalds for the "opportunity" to man the burgers LOL.

Ivory
11-02-2015, 07:13 PM
Also, it is kind of strange you treat creating content / events for players as some type of reward for customer service staff (guides answering petitions). Probably why you don't have many events (or the ones that do happen are pretty lackluster). They are made by people who have been around for years just doing stuff because they are bored (or something tackled by someone not as experienced trying to handle too much).

I know you guys have hopes of creating custom content too? Do you even have anyone around that can do modeling / texturing / animating? :P Or is that the same type of "special reward" for customer service helpers to take a stab at? :P

So strange! But, I'll leave you to it :) Keep up the good work, I'm fine just being a gnome.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/d6118c2a12b2f9e2fe5fc4d91a68245f/tumblr_n0fbx86wdD1ralggio1_500.gif

Braknar
11-02-2015, 07:14 PM
-shrug- Keep up the good work then :D Like I said, you guys just don't want help. Keep on thinking that running around answering some petitions is super hard work :P And that scripting out a GM event is an insane task.

Haha it is like someone at McDonald telling a chef the seriousness of how to put the fries in the fryer...LOL. "What, what do you mean putting fries in a fryer isn't even something we need to talk a lot about?! That is pretty cocky!!! You don't grasp the complexities of the fryer!"

"Yea, actually, I own my own restaurant and do this for a living....making fries is actually the very easiest job..."

Sorry, I don't care enough to "fight" and "prove myself" to help out :P I was offering professional help for free, you guys weren't interested -shrug- You would rather play some weird hierarchical pecking order stuff -_-

I've earned where I am in the real world already, I'm not going to argue with a junior manager of a McDonalds for the "opportunity" to man the burgers LOL.

Thank you for proving my point.

Ele
11-02-2015, 07:17 PM
wow

andvarion
11-02-2015, 07:26 PM
The first post or two of Ivory's had me thinking "This guy sounds awesome!" and the last post or two of Ivory's now has me thinking "This guy sounds like an idiot!"

Danth and maestrom sound like they have good ideas though!

nothsa
11-02-2015, 07:30 PM
Im thankful for the event, the rewards didnt have to be great they were fine, but the reed ring someone in my guild got was funny, the feel bad for the event was getting teleported all the way in surefall... im mean if it was say Wakeing lands that be okay a a tricky run back, but all the was in surefall thats just a feel bad for melee.

Braknar
11-02-2015, 07:42 PM
Last edited by Ivory; Today at 03:16 PM..

The backpedal is real.

Ivory
11-02-2015, 07:44 PM
Yup, because everyone knows what is really important....showing proper reverence to volunteer customer service people who have worked many months to earn their title :P

The next GM event for players to enjoy is sure to be another finely crafted experience of frustration ;)

After all, everyone knows game design is pretty easy work! Making fun content for people is basically a job anyone can do as long as they have proven themselves through entire months of recovering peoples rotted corpses.

Considering player experience? Eff that!! Who needs it?! Just throw in troll teleports! MU HA HA.

Overall, the strategy seems to be going pretty well :D

O- "Woa is us, we really could use more help. We just don't have the time to make things for players....is there anyone out there?"

M- "Hoya, I got experience makin stuffs. Can I help out? :D"

O- "Humm, you saying you know stuff really rubs me the wrong way."

M- "Uh...I do know stuff...I been doing this a while..."

O- "Don't assume you know stuff! This is super complicated stuff!!!"

M- "Oh that? It isn't that complicated....actually, really really easy. You are being kind of ridiculous."

O- "That's it! You are out! We don't need your type around here! Too cocky! And also, you didn't kiss my toes enough!"

M- "Okie dokie :D Have fun :D I'm gonna be a gnome -wiggles-"

https://hipsterjordan.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/ixkai8lxpnimd.gif

skipdog
11-02-2015, 07:45 PM
Ivory's last two(edit: THREE lol) posts show exactly why the staff made a good decision to not bring him on. Had he not made those last two posts, he'd probably get support from us forum posters but now he has shown his true self.

Ivory
11-02-2015, 07:47 PM
The backpedal is real.

I edited a typo ....sometimes I typo...and then use the edit button...to fix the typo....

You caught me though!!! No more faxing typoos four mne!

someidiot
11-02-2015, 07:47 PM
Just wanted to say thanks for the event. I'd rather there be any events at all than nothing. Keep up the good work.

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 07:52 PM
After all, everyone knows game design is pretty easy work! Making fun content for people is basically a job anyone can do as long as they have proven themselves through entire months of recovering peoples rotted corpses.

I'd say Braknar won his 'stripes' with the placment of the Trick or Treater in KC.. trick is Ice Comet, character is exactly far enough way from zoneline so if you are good at games and fast as fuk, you can zone out before impact.

if not, gibbed.

taht is some myiamoto quality design right there

my drake hide legs

not so much <3<3<3

hehe

Ivory
11-02-2015, 07:55 PM
Had he not made those last two posts, he'd probably get support from us forum posters but now he has shown his true self.

Yes, my true self has been unveiled! Someone from the -gasp- real world.

Really though, if you think about it. They don't need me at all. I applied a year ago, and since then I hear the GM events have been pretty ...interesting! And plentiful!

My work here is complete. Now, back to making games in the -gasp- real world.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-raMFCE_n8mA/TmS8sutWGII/AAAAAAAABMc/7ahl8c0ob3g/s1600/Tracylord+GIF+from+Philadelphia+Story.gif

Calibretto
11-02-2015, 08:07 PM
TL;DR

We don't believe you Ivory.

Braknar
11-02-2015, 08:11 PM
I edited a typo ....sometimes I typo...and then use the edit button...to fix the typo....

If by "correcting a typo" you mean "completely rewriting the whole post", then yes you are correct.

Before:
-shrug- Keep up the good work then Like I said, you guys just don't want help. Keep on thinking that running around answering some petitions is super hard work :P And that scripting out a GM event is an insane task.

Haha it is like someone at McDonald telling a chef the seriousness of how to put the fries in the fryer...LOL. "What, what do you mean putting fries in a fryer isn't even something we need to talk a lot about?! That is pretty cocky!!! You don't grasp the complexities of the fryer!"

"Yea, actually, I own my own restaurant and do this for a living....making fries is actually the very easiest job..."

Sorry, I don't care enough to "fight" and "prove myself" to help out :P I was offering professional help for free, you guys weren't interested -shrug- You would rather play some weird hierarchical pecking order stuff -_-

I've earned where I am in the real world already, I'm not going to argue with a junior manager of a McDonalds for the "opportunity" to man the burgers LOL.

After:
Also, it is kind of strange you treat creating content / events for players as some type of reward for customer service staff (guides answering petitions). Probably why you don't have many events (or the ones that do happen are pretty lackluster). They are made by people who have been around for years just doing stuff because they are bored (or something tackled by someone not as experienced trying to handle too much).

I know you guys have hopes of creating custom content too? Do you even have anyone around that can do modeling / texturing / animating? :P Or is that the same type of "special reward" for customer service helpers to take a stab at? :P

So strange! But, I'll leave you to it Keep up the good work, I'm fine just being a gnome.

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 08:15 PM
Ivory working as an experienced game dev:

http://i.imgur.com/hes1e.gif

hehe

come on tho event was great, should be impressed with the quality of the implementation and just expect more. Dudes got STRIPES Now

respect.

(can i have a guise plz)

hehe jk
































seriously tho u got any more of them guises?

https://media.giphy.com/media/yhwbyGt73DhL2/giphy.gif

hehe double jk

Ivory
11-02-2015, 08:19 PM
If by "correcting a typo" you mean "completely rewriting the whole post", then yes you are correct.

Before:


After:

Those are ....2 different posts.....

https://38.media.tumblr.com/3b5c235119a1d21d8d9cbf212caa67d9/tumblr_nrbuiuNKr41uwov8go1_500.gif

Llandris
11-02-2015, 08:30 PM
-shrug- Keep up the good work then :D Like I said, you guys just don't want help. Keep on thinking that running around answering some petitions is super hard work :P And that scripting out a GM event is an insane task.

Haha it is like someone at McDonald telling a chef the seriousness of how to put the fries in the fryer...LOL. "What, what do you mean putting fries in a fryer isn't even something we need to talk a lot about?! That is pretty cocky!!! You don't grasp the complexities of the fryer!"

"Yea, actually, I own my own restaurant and do this for a living....making fries is actually the very easiest job..."

Sorry, I don't care enough to "fight" and "prove myself" to help out :P I was offering professional help for free, you guys weren't interested -shrug- You would rather play some weird hierarchical pecking order stuff -_-

I've earned where I am in the real world already, I'm not going to argue with a junior manager of a McDonalds for the "opportunity" to man the burgers LOL.

LOL

Derupal, you did good bud.

Braknar
11-02-2015, 08:37 PM
Those are ....2 different posts.....

https://38.media.tumblr.com/3b5c235119a1d21d8d9cbf212caa67d9/tumblr_nrbuiuNKr41uwov8go1_500.gif

Hah fair point you are right.

Ivory
11-02-2015, 08:43 PM
TL;DR

We don't believe you Ivory.

Wait, what?! Is this an opportunity to plug myself? :D Ok -blushes- I was starting to work in the other window :P But I guess I shall shamelessly self promote instead (only since you asked though!!!).

-clears throat- Nice to meet you! This is my current project! If you were at some conventions last year, you mighta seen us around :) Currently we are about a yearish from release (pending any unforeseen delays).

Tis an action adventure / rpg, taken in a more artistic and story driven direction. Please check out my latest update here! ( https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1376061185/bloom-memories-a-new-kind-of-action-adventure-rpg/posts/1399566 )

((Since doing this, I've been offered jobs at some of the major game companies, but sadly time is limited. Before this I had worked on projects for Disney and Nick, and even some film stuff!)).

I do all of the artwork / story / scripting / design, and we are working on creating our own engine for the game (since the game is fully 2d in the engine, we are seeing how far we can take it).

Here are some examples of the things I do :)

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HallyVee
11-02-2015, 08:58 PM
I've never been the type to pay any attention, never been social enough and never been bored enough of the already available content to be interested.

But there are few things requested so often as GM events, so knock yourselves out.

Calibretto
11-02-2015, 08:58 PM
/snore

iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 09:07 PM
holy shit i just realized who Ivory is in game and I have to attest she is cute and funny and nice and spells her name out with items on the ground all the time and is a A+ everquester.

Ivory
11-02-2015, 09:13 PM
Sooo, if you really want to have a conversation about "cockyness" , okie dokie :D

This shows me you have absolutely no idea what doing CSR in an MMO is about. It has more in common with being an elementary school teacher in a playground than playing a cleric.

Being an "elementary school teacher" and answering petition of some players fighting over an established engine / game from 15 years ago isn't....exactly.....that difficult?

Sorry that I offend you for thinking it isn't really a big deal :P To me, dealing with stuff like that is really simple (and really, I bet to you it isn't that hard either haha. Come on, running around doing petitions can get trying on your patience if dealing with difficult players....but it isn't rocket brain science :P).

I mean, it is commendable work. Volunteering to customer service on a game like this is awesome (the guides in the game have been great). The server couldn't run as smoothly as it has without everyone pitching in. But, like I said, I know how to do stuff (beyond spanking naughty players)....and just some customer service dealing with people isn't exactly a huge undertaking.

It is cool you guys help out, don't get me wrong. But don't get all smug in your position :P The stupid pecking order stuff and highschool drama? No thanks. I was offering to help out as an adult, not join some weird power trip stuff.

Then, on the subject of making GM events and doing some simple scripting. This also isn't a big challenge :P Again, we are talking about a very old game with very simple triggers for events -_- You could make some really cool events for players with a very limited knowledge and just a little creativity (if you wanted to, which it doesn't seem many people around do. But props to those who take the time to put it together....if even they don't have the most experience with game design...which is also a little important :P).

Anyhow, my original posts were just to explain why there aren't more GM events :P You guys just don't seem to want help with it. It isn't a priority. GM events are a reward given to customer service staff to play around with (instead of approached as content for players and an actual skill or job to do).

Soooo.....what were you talkin about again?

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iruinedyourday
11-02-2015, 09:15 PM
Is this what happened to Greengrocer?

Ivory
11-02-2015, 09:20 PM
holy shit i just realized who Ivory is in game and I have to attest she is cute and funny and nice and spells her name out with items on the ground all the time and is a A+ everquester.

Hehe, I've been found out!!! Lately I been another gnome charming undead and tellin jokes through them :3

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Bardalicious
11-02-2015, 11:46 PM
You really should be more careful about what you decide to post on the internet.

In the two minutes it took me to open that link you provided us, I deduced who on the dev team you were, did a quick google image search, and found your MTF youtube video.

Which, hey, good for you. But the people here will use it against you given the chance.

Ivory
11-03-2015, 12:09 AM
You really should be more careful about what you decide to post on the internet.

In the two minutes it took me to open that link you provided us, I deduced who on the dev team you were, did a quick google image search, and found your MTF youtube video.

Which, hey, good for you. But the people here will use it against you given the chance.

I don't think there is really anything in my life (or about my life) that I mind if people know. Being MTF isn't a bad thing (and actually, if you google my real name, you will find some articles on about how my work is influenced by it).

I think it is tragic how many people are out there hiding, afraid of what their friends / family / work will do to them if they find out -insert issue-. I've met way too many people like that who try to keep their heads down out of fear.

Don't let others narrow view of the world limit your life. You only get one :P

iruinedyourday
11-03-2015, 12:13 AM
yea 1. fuck anyone that thinks its an insult 2. whatch how fast they get bant for trying to use it as one kek 3. Ivory give brak credit he worked hard on that event and I think that as a game dev you should know that he did a great job!

Bardalicious
11-03-2015, 12:25 AM
Im not one to make fun of someone for their lifestyle choices. I will make fun of you for flying off the handle so quickly in this thread, pretty much confirming every suspicion that Braknar had of you, however.

Nextwave
11-03-2015, 01:27 AM
No rewards?

Ivory
11-03-2015, 01:38 AM
3. Ivory give brak credit he worked hard on that event and I think that as a game dev you should know that he did a great job!

I totally give him credit for it :D Taking extra time to do something for the server is awesome.

There were some design problems, sure (but all the feedback he already knows how to improve it for the next event). Someone like me (or even more random guides invested and weighing in on it) could have helped him spot those...like "hay, maybe each NPC should limit the distance they teleport a person? So it stays on the same continent?"..

Still, at the end of the day, it is doing something to try and bring some fun to people on the server....which is really what it should all be about. So even if there were problems, it spiced things up for a day.

I just think it is odd how making GM events is a reward for customer service volunteers as the sole way these things are happening. They have said many many times how GM events happen if someone can tackle it on the side of answering petitions after putting in their other hours helping out the server....instead of just a volunteer position in itself (or the primary goal of some GMs).

And then people like me come along and go "hay, I'll do stuff", and the idea is met with heavy cynicism. "We don't need stuff done, we just need you to be a hall monitor and break up fights". In fact, that I came into it WANTING to do stuff besides babysit was a strike against me! lol ((You don't find that odd? I sure do)).

It was a sign to them that I didn't "really understand the job of a guide" and "wasn't prepared for the realities, it is hard work, it isn't just having fun" ...

It is hilariously condescending haha. You think answering petitions is hard work? No, sorry nope, not in my world. Modeling + rigging + animating 50+ unique high poly characters is hard work. Creating 300+ unique 1920x1080 environments is hard work. Hanging out in a virtual chatroom and helping people resolve some small problems? That is just fun and games. It is the type of stuff I would do to actually RELAX from work and get away from modeling / painting for a bit haha.

Same with creating GM events. It would be something I would do to relax from my normal work and have a side creative outlet to play with. Not hard work to me. That is actually my idea of playing and having fun :P ((which is actually pretty common for game devs, there is a reason "game jams" exist :P))

Then again, saying this "super hard work" is something to relax with might be mistaken for more cockiness. How dare I suggest answering a petition is easy?! Egos might be bruised!

Which is why I don't re-apply. I'm not here to dance around a room of delicate egos :P I wanted just a way to relax and give back to the server and create some fun for players. You guides here might take yourselves just a littleeee too seriously maybe? :P Helping out is awesome, but come onnnnn....even you do this stuff to relax and have fun when you get home from your normal work :P

So, they COULD do more stuff, and they have people willing to help, they just really don't want to :P I wanted to have some fun, but it seems the idea that it would be fun is outrageously offensive. Hah.

Ivory
11-03-2015, 01:41 AM
I will make fun of you for flying off the handle so quickly in this thread.

Bwa ha ha, you think that was flying off the handle? :3 That is funny :D

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skipdog
11-03-2015, 09:07 AM
It's pretty hilarious how you are completely blind to your own condescending attitude.

Maybe you need to step back, look at your own posts, and realize how snarky, cocky and rude they are. Why would they possibly want a person who acts the way you do as a guide? Do you seriously not understand why people with your attitude should be avoided? Seriously, read your own post right here and ask yourself if you'd ever want to work with somebody like that:

"-shrug- Keep up the good work then Like I said, you guys just don't want help. Keep on thinking that running around answering some petitions is super hard work :P And that scripting out a GM event is an insane task.

Haha it is like someone at McDonald telling a chef the seriousness of how to put the fries in the fryer...LOL. "What, what do you mean putting fries in a fryer isn't even something we need to talk a lot about?! That is pretty cocky!!! You don't grasp the complexities of the fryer!"

"Yea, actually, I own my own restaurant and do this for a living....making fries is actually the very easiest job..."

Sorry, I don't care enough to "fight" and "prove myself" to help out :P I was offering professional help for free, you guys weren't interested -shrug- You would rather play some weird hierarchical pecking order stuff -_-

I've earned where I am in the real world already, I'm not going to argue with a junior manager of a McDonalds for the "opportunity" to man the burgers LOL."

I mean seriously, who in the hell would ever want to work with you? Sounds like a fucking nightmare, rofl. You're on the dev team for some kickstarter game that doesn't even exist yet(and likely won't) and you act like some seasoned game developer because of it.

Swish
11-03-2015, 09:19 AM
has anyone in this thread had a warning about "trolling outside RNF" from Llandewen yet? just making sure these things are being issued without bias.

Legday
11-03-2015, 10:46 AM
Props to Braknar for the work he did to set this up, and what I'm about to say is only constructive feedback...

The people participating in your event should walk away thinking "that was fun", and even though there are people posting here trying to be glass half full try-hards, I guarantee just about everybody who walked away after 3 hours of running all over creation and being handed a trolljob sh*t item, did not have fun.

That's just the reality of it. It was a resounding failure because the level of effort put in combined with the level of troll reward did not compute to "Oh, you got me! Ha ha!" It was more like "Well, that was a waste of time."

Thanks for trying though, not being sarcastic.

Legday
11-03-2015, 10:48 AM
Props to Braknar for the work he did to set this up, and what I'm about to say is only constructive feedback...

The people participating in your event should walk away thinking "that was fun", and even though there are people posting here trying to be glass half full try-hards, I guarantee just about everybody who walked away after 3 hours of running all over creation and being handed a trolljob sh*t item, did not have fun.

That's just the reality of it. It was a resounding failure because the level of effort put in combined with the level of troll reward did not compute to "Oh, you got me! Ha ha!" It was more like "Well, that was a waste of time."

Thanks for trying though, not being sarcastic.

Unless, ofcourse, it was actually a mixup between the common and rare loot tables as suggested. If that's the case then oh well. People can deal.

Axlrose
11-03-2015, 11:15 AM
If Braknar truly wanted the "spirit" of the holiday to be part of the quest, then similar to the real life aspect of children going door to door to collect candies and sweets, a maximum character level limit should have been imposed and left it for the newbie (young) players to complete. Of course, a whole different quest would have been designed and players would have still complained about something.

Really - raid mobs? And then listen to "Such and such guild camped the mob and got all the phat lewt! I want my phat lewt!" *throws temper tantrum*

Ivory
11-03-2015, 04:04 PM
I mean seriously, who in the hell would ever want to work with you? Sounds like a fucking nightmare, rofl. You're on the dev team for some kickstarter game that doesn't even exist yet(and likely won't) and you act like some seasoned game developer because of it.

Never said I was 50 year vet. But I do know a bit more than some random person who works in some unrelated field doing some customer service volunteer work :P

For example, randomly teleporting people around the game world. When designing stuff for games, you need to consider how it impacts all of the players (putting in something that teleports you across the world OBVIOUSLY favors teleporters or those with gate...).

Nightmare to work with because I don't find customer service babysitting to be that hard? Lol what world am I in?! This is the twilight zone lol. They even said themselves it was like being a school teacher watching children.

I'm really curious what you people do if you think being a guide is that difficult...if you think hanging out in a virtual chatroom answering petitions is hard work....then....yea, wtf do you do for a living?!

Or does everyone work at mcdonalds and is super insulted I equated putting fries in the fryer to a low skill / low effort job? Though, actually mcdonalds is probably more work :P Since you don't get to decide your hours and need to stay standing the entire time and it comes with more responsibilities / regulations on sanitation and whatnot?

Gain some perspective, we are talking about being a guide and teleporting around to help people with petitions. For fucks sake this is ridiculous LOL.

((Oh, and notice how I said low effort...not no effort. Being a guide and helping out is really awesome stuff, and definitely more work than a person has to take on. But save the martyr stuff for someone else :P))

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Tethler
11-03-2015, 04:42 PM
Never said I was 50 year vet. But I do know a bit more than some random person who works in some unrelated field doing some customer service volunteer work :P

For example, randomly teleporting people around the game world. When designing stuff for games, you need to consider how it impacts all of the players (putting in something that teleports you across the world OBVIOUSLY favors teleporters or those with gate...).

Nightmare to work with because I don't find customer service babysitting to be that hard? Lol what world am I in?! This is the twilight zone lol. They even said themselves it was like being a school teacher watching children.

I'm really curious what you people do if you think being a guide is that difficult...if you think hanging out in a virtual chatroom answering petitions is hard work....then....yea, wtf do you do for a living?!

Or does everyone work at mcdonalds and is super insulted I equated putting fries in the fryer to a low skill / low effort job? Though, actually mcdonalds is probably more work :P Since you don't get to decide your hours and need to stay standing the entire time and it comes with more responsibilities / regulations on sanitation and whatnot?

Gain some perspective, we are talking about being a guide and teleporting around to help people with petitions. For fucks sake this is ridiculous LOL.

((Oh, and notice how I said low effort...not no effort. Being a guide and helping out is really awesome stuff, and definitely more work than a person has to take on. But save the martyr stuff for someone else :P))



You clearly aren't getting it. I don't think anyone is saying that you aren't technically qualified to do the things a guide does. Your attitude is garbage. Even if you were gods gift to game developers, you're a cocky little shit. People don't like cocky little shits. That's all.

skipdog
11-03-2015, 04:44 PM
Never said I was 50 year vet. But I do know a bit more than some random person who works in some unrelated field doing some customer service volunteer work :P

For example, randomly teleporting people around the game world. When designing stuff for games, you need to consider how it impacts all of the players (putting in something that teleports you across the world OBVIOUSLY favors teleporters or those with gate...).

Nightmare to work with because I don't find customer service babysitting to be that hard? Lol what world am I in?! This is the twilight zone lol. They even said themselves it was like being a school teacher watching children.

I'm really curious what you people do if you think being a guide is that difficult...if you think hanging out in a virtual chatroom answering petitions is hard work....then....yea, wtf do you do for a living?!

Or does everyone work at mcdonalds and is super insulted I equated putting fries in the fryer to a low skill / low effort job? Though, actually mcdonalds is probably more work :P Since you don't get to decide your hours and need to stay standing the entire time and it comes with more responsibilities / regulations on sanitation and whatnot?

Gain some perspective, we are talking about being a guide and teleporting around to help people with petitions. For fucks sake this is ridiculous LOL.

((Oh, and notice how I said low effort...not no effort. Being a guide and helping out is really awesome stuff, and definitely more work than a person has to take on. But save the martyr stuff for someone else :P))

http://images.christianpost.com/blog/full/20690/work-hard-2.gif?w=500&h=250

It's pretty hilarious that you STILL don't get that being a guide has nothing to do with 'how hard it is' and everything to do with 'having a likable personality'. You still keep pointing out how EASY it is to be a guide... you clearly still don't get it. You were never rejected because of lack of technical ability. It is because of your attitude.

captnamazing
11-03-2015, 04:48 PM
Well he's not green grocer, what do you expect ?

Ivory
11-03-2015, 05:48 PM
You clearly aren't getting it. I don't think anyone is saying that you aren't technically qualified to do the things a guide does. Your attitude is garbage. Even if you were gods gift to game developers, you're a cocky little shit. People don't like cocky little shits. That's all.

Yup, I'm cocky because I said I could be a guide and it isn't hard (which you agree with).

And I'm cocky because I likened a guide sitting there trying to tell me how I had it all wrong and how really difficult it is to a person working a low skill restaurant job to telling a chef that cutting onions is super difficult. ((which, again, we all agree it really isn't))

SO, we all agree it isn't difficult (since it isn't about that, right?). Then the "ick, cocky" comes from me just saying it is easy to me (even though, yea, we all agree it probably is).

Does your head hurt from all of the cognitive dissonance going on? Do you hate any capable person saying they can handle jobs easily? Do you hate accountants saying they can figure out the 13 percent tip pretty easily?

Now that I point this out, I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess to you it makes me even MORE cocky. But, as your brain tried to sort through the simple stuff I wrote....did you feel your head hurting a little more? :3 Like, seriously, I'm curious what level of discomfort your cognitive dissonance gives you :3

Like I said, get some perspective. We are talking about answering some petitions on a virtual chatroom. LOL

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Tann
11-03-2015, 06:15 PM
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sorry if repost, didn't read more then first page.

Braknar
11-03-2015, 07:03 PM
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This thread has been amazing.

Tethler
11-03-2015, 07:05 PM
Like I said, get some perspective.

Irony.


It's OK if you don't get it. Not everyone is cut out for public relations type positions.

It's irrelevant that you feel you'd be good for the job if they don't want you for said job. The attitude in your posts clearly shows they made the right decision.

By all means though, continue to make posts about how awesome you are. I'm interested to see how deep the hole will get.

Ivory
11-03-2015, 07:50 PM
By all means though, continue to make posts about how awesome you are. I'm interested to see how deep the hole will get.

If you think saying you are able to handle virtual chat petitions is bragging about being super awesome....you have a very low bar for someone being awesome lol.

And that was almost a year and half ago I made the offer to help hah.

Rest has been a simple explanation of why there aren't more GM events and whatnot. Explaining how it apparently works (such as them treating event creation as a fun diversion for GMs who are bored).

But, like I said before, it doesn't really matter :P Obviously everything is working out as people like (some people at least). There is no problem, everything is working as intended.

I'm happy just being a gnome to mess around when not working. You guys can enjoy the circle jerk :)

Ivory
11-03-2015, 07:52 PM
http://img.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/popcorn-blank.gif

This thread has been amazing.

I agree :3 Keep up the good work heehee, I shall enjoy the schadenfreude :D

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k2summit
11-04-2015, 10:22 AM
It's the way you convey your thoughts Ivory. Its annoying as shit. Too many emoticons and snarky phrases.

Spyder73
11-04-2015, 01:27 PM
http://img.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/popcorn-blank.gif

This thread has been amazing.

Give me my f#cking surname back!!!!!!!!! Wu'Tang.

Now that I am actively looking at people's names, its an absolute shit show on this server. I grouped with a guy named Hunglike Horse yesterday for Christ sakes

Braknar
11-04-2015, 01:44 PM
Give me my f#cking surname back!!!!!!!!! Wu'Tang.

Now that I am actively looking at people's names, its an absolute shit show on this server. I grouped with a guy named Hunglike Horse yesterday for Christ sakes

Well

1) He can set that name without a GM to set it for him

2) If you see that, petition and we'll take a look

We are strict about the names with a ` since the ONLY way to get it is if we set it. They are also supposed to be elvish in nature and generally for RP purposes.

Spyder73
11-04-2015, 02:01 PM
Well

1) He can set that name without a GM to set it for him

2) If you see that, petition and we'll take a look

We are strict about the names with a ` since the ONLY way to get it is if we set it. They are also supposed to be elvish in nature and generally for RP purposes.

1) With guise I am a dark elf - elvish problem eliminated
2) look at my post in the melee forums about dal or runs for little monks and honestly tell me I am not role playing and I will stop asking.
3) i will write an epic tale about Braknar the Benevolent and Sirken the Almighty.
4) please

Leontius
11-04-2015, 02:03 PM
5) Shut up

iruinedyourday
11-04-2015, 02:11 PM
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Bardalicious
11-04-2015, 02:11 PM
Thread really delivered. Thx for moving to RNF where it belongs so we can make fun of Ivory without eating a ban. ;)