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Ele
10-30-2015, 02:50 PM
Currently Ancient Breath is disease based and can be removed via cures.

There is evidence via the old spell files and later posts indicating that Vulak's AE was changed to disease based later in the timeline, if not post-Luclin. At least for the time being, Ancient Breath should be magic based and not disease until we can pinpoint a change date.

Also, recast delay may need to be reexamined. Along with the attack speed reduction, on live AB is currently 40%, the old SPdat supports 60% reduction.

April 5, 2001 SPdat

Magic based spell, no disease counters

Ancient Breath
Dragon Resistance
Decrease Attack Speed by 60% (L1)
Decrease Current Hitpoints by 250 (L1)
Decrease Hit Points (HP) by 20 (L1)


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Classes: None

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Range to Target: 200 feet
Area Effect Range: 300 feet

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Skill: Evocation
Allowable Targets: Point Blank AoE

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Resistance Check: Magic

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Spell Duration: Unknown
Duration Formula: 3
Recast Delay: 12.0 seconds

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Spell cast on you: Your life force drains away.


2003 Description of Ring of Vulak
http://www.monkly-business.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5765

BOSS #5: Vulak'Aerr spawns (1)

.........Vulak'Aerr is rooted, so debuffs can be done before engaging

.........his AE is now disease based and can be cured

Telin
10-30-2015, 03:24 PM
This guild page supports your finding. According to their first/last kill date, the information is from late 2001/early 2002. That would put any change past luclin.

"AE - 250dd lifetap "Your life force drains away", 40% slow and 20hp dot with an unknown yet very long duration. Checks to MR.
Spell name - Ancient Breath"

http://www.silentredemption.org/mobinfo.cgi?mid=41

khanable
10-30-2015, 07:26 PM
nice

Daldaen
10-31-2015, 11:14 AM
That "Dragon Resistance" line is a -150 resist check, which is classic. Unlike many other AEs that didn't have a resist check in classic, but had one added in Luclin/PoP when the resist system was changed.

Ele
04-05-2016, 05:05 PM
Reports indicate this still adds disease counters and can be cured.

Colgate
04-05-2016, 07:17 PM
correct

i assume it's magic based now because since the update to it, i've been resisting maybe 1 in 10 ancient breaths, whereas before i would resist none.. ever

however, it does not remove with a dispel and it is only able to be removed with cure disease effects, despite being a magic based resist check

Alunova
01-13-2017, 11:31 PM
Ele can you link the SPdat with a 12 second recast? Or other proof that it should be 12 seconds. I'm looking at the Trilogy client file and it shows 60:

1486^Ancient Breath^PLAYER_1^^^^Your life force drains away.^^^200^300^0^0^0^0^60000^3^0^0^0^-6^60^-250^-20^36^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^36^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^2505^ 2053^-1^-1^-1^-1^1^1^1^1^-1^-1^100^^^^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^0^0^0^5^1 0^11^79^0^35^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^4^0^24^-1^0^0^61^61^61^61^61^61^61^61^61^61^61^61^61^61^61 ^44^13^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^100 ^0^116^0