AoW down

[indiscriminate_hater]

what took so long?

[Rararboker]

Hes tough.

[Daldaen]

Variance.

Statue has continually been spawning at like 1PM or 5AM on workdays. No guild can field a 60+ man force during those time slots.

AoW spawns at a good time when most east coasters are starting their weekend and most euros are still awake... Leads to dead raid mobs.

In summary - Variance is the devil and root of all things evil.

[t3kn34k]

Big thanks to everyone who came out to help ;)

[Oleris]

who got the legs?

[Lisset]

who got the legs?

Gage.

[TheBiznessTZ]

subscribed

[Rogean]

I'd still like to see one guild take him down cleanly, but for first kill, gotta do what you gotta do.

[Efwan]

How many guilds did it take?

[Rararboker]

3

[Rogean]

Technically 4 depending how you look at it lol.

[Efwan]

Oh wow haha I assume upwards of 100 people then?

[Rogean]

Closer to 200 probably...

[Oleris]

rampage camped out at 60ish percent Asgard/Taken got it down to 40% or so, got 2 ticks of regen and rampage re-engage at 50%

[arsenalpow]

would have been hilarious to see Taken poach AoW

[JboxCSU]

Spawn more overlords!

[Itap]

Grats?

[Efwan]

Oh wow that's crazy. Would love to see full fraps of a fight like that lol

[Tankdan]

I'd still like to see one guild take him down cleanly, but for first kill, gotta do what you gotta do.

Rampage got him to 6% last week but a fluke double tank death made us ran out of tanks, would have been a smooth clean kill

[rictus204]

nice work boys

[Plackers]

If this happened on RED Rogean would have had emergency maintenance on the server.

[TheBiznessTZ]

If this happened on RED Rogean would have had emergency maintenance on the server.

[ddxdy]

Rampage got him to 6% last week but a fluke double tank death made us ran out of tanks, would have been a smooth clean kill

"fluke"

[maestrom]

Did they use charmed guards pets?

Are those guards charmable?

[Javacup]

Was Taken/Asgard aware they were killing AoW on a Forsaken FTE?

[Sweettouch]

Was Taken/Asgard aware they were killing AoW on a Forsaken FTE?

They don't care,they scoop and poach low hp mobs whenever possible

[Gimp]

My dire wolf pet will be there for the Rampage first kill next week

[Juevento]

Nice job Rampals!

[maerilith]

I'd still like to see one guild take him down cleanly, but for first kill, gotta do what you gotta do.

I was going to ask if it was legit

this answers my question

[Aussie]

About time!!

Congratulations all involved.

[Colgate]

gotta love the double standards

[Adnan]

gz rampage

[Efwan]

No screenies of the fight? Boooo, Tunare next?

[fandAONgo]

lol Rogean is really annoying sometimes

buzz off

[fandAONgo]

grats on the AoW kill, why does anyone in Rampage continue playing the game now? You don't need any more items for anything, you already can kill everything in the game. What is the point of continuing to raid? You don't need any more items, and if you get more items what's the point, there is no PvP so there is nothing to do with the items once you get them...

still wondering why people play blue

[indiscriminate_hater]

grats on the AoW kill, why does anyone in Rampage continue playing the game now? You don't need any more items for anything, you already can kill everything in the game. What is the point of continuing to raid? You don't need any more items, and if you get more items what's the point, there is no PvP so there is nothing to do with the items once you get them...

still wondering why people play blue

if only there was a place where you could use these items against other players

[fandAONgo]

if only there was a place where you could use these items against other players

if there was a place, then there would be a point to raiding and actually a reason to continue raiding

or is hitting auto attack and using the same mechanics on every boss encounter considered fun and is the reward itself?

[Pokesan]

pvpers in every game have this weird chip on their shoulders where they have to whine about how much better they are than pve player

is it narcissism? is it low t beta cuck? sad to go around yelling at people who don't care about you at all

[radda]

Rampage got him to 6% last week but a fluke double tank death made us ran out of tanks, would have been a smooth clean kill

Would have, should have, could have.

[fandAONgo]

pvpers in every game have this weird chip on their shoulders where they have to whine about how much better they are than pve player

is it narcissism? is it low t beta cuck? sad to go around yelling at people who don't care about you at all

i don't see where I am doing that anywhere. I am just stating the obvious. I personally raid 5 days a week on a pvp server. When I was killing every boss every week on the blue server, I had an epiphany. All of the hardest mobs and content in the game had become trivial and we would never struggle or wipe once. Every kill was flawless week in and week out, so what did I need more gear for? I found myself not asking for loot because I realized it was not going to change anything. I knew other people in my guild would get more satisfaction and enjoyment from getting ugprades so I routinely passed for them.

I realized on the PvP server there is an actual reason to loot items and want to loot items, because they actual had a use to them. On a blue server upgrades had no value, they were not needed, but on a PvP server they would always help me fight stronger classes and more geared players.

[radda]

I agree fandango, this is why i have struggled with the notion I will convert to red some day

[Raije1000]

i don't see where I am doing that anywhere. I am just stating the obvious. I personally raid 5 days a week on a pvp server. When I was killing every boss every week on the blue server, I had an epiphany. All of the hardest mobs and content in the game had become trivial and we would never struggle or wipe once. Every kill was flawless week in and week out, so what did I need more gear for? I found myself not asking for loot because I realized it was not going to change anything. I knew other people in my guild would get more satisfaction and enjoyment from getting ugprades so I routinely passed for them.

I realized on the PvP server there is an actual reason to loot items and want to loot items, because they actual had a use to them. On a blue server upgrades had no value, they were not needed, but on a PvP server they would always help me fight stronger classes and more geared players.

didnt read, you play on a non competition server. just stop

[Plackers]

grats on the AoW kill, why does anyone in Rampage continue playing the game now? You don't need any more items for anything, you already can kill everything in the game. What is the point of continuing to raid? You don't need any more items, and if you get more items what's the point, there is no PvP so there is nothing to do with the items once you get them...

still wondering why people play blue

[Plackers]

Houndstooth took his medicine today posting some quality stuff

[Pheer]

I realized on the PvP server there is an actual reason to loot items and want to loot items, because they actual had a use to them. On a blue server upgrades had no value, they were not needed, but on a PvP server they would always help me fight stronger classes and more geared players.


For gear to help you fight other players there first would need to be other players for you to fight

[xer0xed]

For gear to help you fight other players there first would need to be other players for you to fight

This.

[ridiculousmoose]

lol so much red butthurt in this thread... go back to your dead server guys

[Plackers]

Server really healthy at 60 enjoy your line for Orc hill group

[Plackers]

Second best part of red is you don't have to listen to females talk in teamspeak. No females play on red lol!

[Tuljin]

Everyone needs to stop drinking the fucking koolaid

Red sucks because Bluebies suck and they're as happy as pigs in shit with their form of "competition" and mutual masturbation via teamspeak and forums. Velious can go on for 5 years and they'll still be there without having any want to actually be "competitive"

Its a little thing called online video game addiction, people write doctoral dissertations about it

[Hastley]

Remember 14 years ago when velious pixels and competition was relevant ? Me too

[fishingme]

Second best part of red is you don't have to listen to females talk in teamspeak. No females play on red lol!

That's because they don't want their time of the month to come early because of all the other 'women' on red.

[Rejji]

Technically 4 depending how you look at it lol.

Did all 4 guilds get an item?

How did the disto play out?

http://i.imgur.com/WoZYNXL.gif?1

[iruinedyourday]

on red we would have streamed/frapsed it.. thats all Ill say keke :)

[iruinedyourday]

also all 3 guilds would have just killed each other and it would a been hilarious kekeke

http://i.imgur.com/WeyLLU4.gif

[Aviann]

also all 3 guilds would have just killed each other and it would a been hilarious kekeke

http://i.imgur.com/WeyLLU4.gif

Asgard only evolved pokemon in picture, SUCCESS

[triad]

Asgard only evolved pokemon in picture, SUCCESS

but who evolves a pikachu really

[Aviann]

but who evolves a pikachu really

Whoever is actually trying to update their pokedex to the maximum amount of caught pokemon instead of keeping an irrelevant yellow mouse on their dream team like the fan boy we know and love from the cartoon.

[triad]

Whoever is actually trying to update their pokedex to the maximum amount of caught pokemon instead of keeping an irrelevant yellow mouse on their dream team like the fan boy we know and love from the cartoon.

Link cables bro

[Doors]

I'd still like to see one guild take him down cleanly, but for first kill, gotta do what you gotta do.

rofl you were ripping on Empire for us killing raid mobs with 70 plus.

200 for AoW on blue = I'll allow it.

No bias there :rolleyes:

[radda]

Asgard only evolved pokemon in picture, SUCCESS

lol

[Big_Japan]

Red sucks because Bluebies suck and they're as happy as pigs in shit with their form of "competition" and mutual masturbation via teamspeak and forums.

15 years ago the daily Red player was calling himself an "anti"

[LostCause]

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/BRING+IT+ON+.+1+man+vs+thousands+of+fish+WHO_1e3bf f_4566389.jpg

[syztem]

grats on ur kill, how many clerics in total? i remember like 15 cleric chain lines with mod rods fer days.

[am0n]

pvpers in every game have this weird chip on their shoulders where they have to whine about how much better they are than pve player

is it narcissism? is it low t beta cuck? sad to go around yelling at people who don't care about you at all

[Corpsed]

Sweet, another thread shitted up by Red players trying to convince themselves red is better

[Rejji]

Sweet, another thread shitted up by Red players trying to convince themselves red is better

this guy just killed this playful rnf thread by crying

[Flexin]

Red way better, coming from someone who's played pretty hard on both servers.

Fandango has a point (and owes me a t-crown), what is there to do on blue at the end of the day, accumulate millions of platinum and then what? Peaks on red are nearing 400, and sooner than later somethings going to shake up the whole 1 90 man guild thing and sort itself out.

Half of the people who say "there's no one to pvp" are the people who tried red and quit because they died a few times.

[Plackers]

Day 3. someone in ec tunnel just told me nice pants. Really love people respecting my unemployment.

[iruinedyourday]

Sweet, another thread shitted up by Red players trying to convince themselves red is better

I like how i made a funny gif and blue players just scted like dicks posting swear words.

Truth is blue is by far the toxic server yikes

[Itap]

^this guy trying so hard to fit in on red even though we all know he's a bluebie at heart

[iruinedyourday]

i am toxic as fuuuuk keke

http://media1.giphy.com/media/eVy46EWyclTIA/giphy.gif

[iruinedyourday]

Ps i kno ur not mad hehe just didnt see that part of the gif till after i post

[Big_Japan]

i am toxic as fuuuuk keke

http://media1.giphy.com/media/eVy46EWyclTIA/giphy.gif

Ps i kno ur not mad hehe just didnt see that part of the gif till after i post

mad

[Plackers]

Closer to 200 probably...

I remember when Rogaine talked shit about Empire killing things on release day of a new expansion with 98.

lol

[Efwan]

I remember when Rogaine talked shit about Empire killing things on release day of a new expansion with 98.

lol

That "close to 200" was the total numbers for like 4 guilds and multiple attempts/snipe attempts, outta here with that crap.

[iruinedyourday]

mad

uh not really yikes you are a bad troll

[Big_Japan]

^mad confirmed

[iruinedyourday]

I have u so rustled u follow me around the forums

[Big_Japan]

theres only like 6 posts per day buddy dont flatter urself

[Kekephee]

i am toxic as fuuuuk keke


It took me a moment to realize this wasn't directly addressed at me and I was like "what the fuck I didn't say anything"

[iruinedyourday]

hehe BDA SCUM! :P

[dafier]

Grats all 4 guilds.

[Colgate]

That "close to 200" was the total numbers for like 4 guilds and multiple attempts/snipe attempts, outta here with that crap.

pretty sure rampage raids and has always raided with more people than empire has

i don't blame them, some of this shit requires that many people by design and we would too if the population on red sustained it, but there's a very clear double standard here

[Spyder73]

I was at this event - it was weird how it happened, but there was never at any time 200 people engaged on AOW. Asgard/Taken basically took him from 60% to 40% and then Rampage took back over.

but yea, Rampage had 18 (EIGHTEEN) rogues at AoW

Unfortunately I was summoned and insta gibbed in 1 round of combat, so I listened a lot of this naked in Sky Shrine on Vent. The E-tears were real when the Legs were linked....Florid's jelly-ness was even more palpable than mine.

[Itap]

but yea, Rampage had 18 (EIGHTEEN) rogues at AoW


Sounds about right

[Tann]

gotta dig up all those posts from them big guild folks saying AoW would be downed in a few days after release.

20 years of kunark makes velious stuff easy.. right? right?

http://media.giphy.com/media/uKGicptCJo2EU/giphy.gif

[maestrom]

gotta dig up all those posts from them big guild folks saying AoW would be downed in a few days after release.

20 years of kunark makes velious stuff easy.. right? right?

http://media.giphy.com/media/uKGicptCJo2EU/giphy.gif

I restate my earlier question, did the guilds use charmed high level arena guards to tank AoW?

LoS + Shock of Swords, Afterlife, FoH, all of them. AoW was only downed during Velious during a brief, one-week?, period where several very powerful arena mobs were charmable. Verant immediately made these giants non-charmable.

The next mentions of AoW being killed (in my minor research), were within a week of Luclin being launched after many of the luclin features and buffs were already in the game.

So, if the giants are uncharmable here, then, yes. 5 years of Kunark does make things easy.

[teija]

pretty sure rampage raids and has always raided with more people than empire has

i don't blame them, some of this shit requires that many people by design and we would too if the population on red sustained it, but there's a very clear double standard here

How many people does Empire roll with for Vyemm,Vulak,Tunare, and AoW? No trolling here im rly out of the loop on what happens on red and im genuinely curious. Rampage fields about 65-75 for these encounters and 35-60 on most other things.

[teija]

I restate my earlier question, did the guilds use charmed high level arena guards to tank AoW?

LoS + Shock of Swords, Afterlife, FoH, all of them. AoW was only downed during Velious during a brief, one-week?, period where several very powerful arena mobs were charmable. Verant immediately made these giants non-charmable.

The next mentions of AoW being killed (in my minor research), were within a week of Luclin being launched after many of the luclin features and buffs were already in the game.

So, if the giants are uncharmable here, then, yes. 5 years of Kunark does make things easy.


At no time was AoW "tanked" by any charmed mob.

[maestrom]

At no time was AoW "tanked" by any charmed mob.

This is probably correct.

I literally have no idea where i read that AoW was ever tanked, in whole or in part, by charmed mobs, even though its been on my mind for the past forever.

http://legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-08-03

In any case. Were any of the giants, later made uncharmable, used in the P99 kill?

If yes, then we just did it a bit sooner here than LoS/SoS did (2 months into Velious here and 9 months into velious on live). If no, then something happened here that never happened on live.

[Ambrotos]

Better internet connection, large group of people very well geared. It was what, 200 here that did it? On live it was 70ish.

[Herp]

Better internet connection, large group of people very well geared. It was what, 200 here that did it? On live it was 70ish.

And 70 people on this server got it to 6% a week or two ago, whats ur point? It'll die to 70 people here soon enough.

[Alunova]

His attack speed was nearly cut in half last patch, so it shouldn't be that hard.

[Rejji]

Better internet connection, large group of people very well geared. It was what, 200 here that did it? On live it was 70ish.

Eh, don't forget that our ac code is a recreation and doesn't quite cut damage like you would expect from live

[Colgate]

How many people does Empire roll with for Vyemm,Vulak,Tunare, and AoW? No trolling here im rly out of the loop on what happens on red and im genuinely curious. Rampage fields about 65-75 for these encounters and 35-60 on most other things.

we average around 60-75 people

we don't kill/attempt tunare or AoW due to lack of clerics, but it seems like you guys raid with more than that, unless you're just really min/maxing on classes and making people log in rogue/cleric alts?

we only have like 10 main clerics and rogues total

[Secrets]

Kill the sleeper and then i'll be impressed you filthy casuals

[Heebo]

Can you run a query of how many soulfires, reapers of the dead, and wort potions have been clicked since velious launched?

[Rejji]

Why would we shoot ourselves in the foot for a cloth cap

[Man0warr]

we don't kill/attempt tunare or AoW due to lack of clerics, but it seems like you guys raid with more than that, unless you're just really min/maxing on classes and making people log in rogue/cleric alts?



They do. I think I counted 15 rogues (mostly alts) at Tormax the other day, and I think they had even more than that for a Sontalak a few weeks ago.

Wizard and cleric alts too.

[Gimp]

They do. I think I counted 15 rogues (mostly alts) at Tormax the other day, and I think they had even more than that for a Sontalak a few weeks ago.

Wizard and cleric alts too.

Gotta min/max that dps on the big boys like AoW, Vyemm, etc or you're in for a long night.

[dafier]

Kill the sleeper and then i'll be impressed you filthy casuals

I hope they (staff) do not implement the script for a long time. Personally I'd like to see Sleepers Tomb raids since I've never have on Live.

[dafier]

Wakening the sleeper wasn't ever supposed to happen in the first place. SoE admitted that. Then they allowed it to happen, cause chaos and then screw everyone else by not allowing anyone else to get Exquisite/Primals.

I believe their thought process back then was, ST is the end game for Velious. But they changed their minds and it screwed a lot of potential guilds out of getting items and experiencing the raid. Was really stupid of them.

[falkun]

Primals still drop in a MUCH more limited capacity from Progenitor and Master of the Guard. However, they apparently drop 1-2 primals each, while the Warders can drop more (up to 4 primals?). Then there is also the reduced boss number (2 vs 6).

[falkun]

You also lose out on all the additional Warder loot (like Shroud of Longevity and Mask of Tinkering).

[Rejji]

Classic or not this server stops in velious, to allow anyone to kill sleepers and troll the rest of the server out of limited content would be an awful managerial decision.

[dafier]

Thanks for the clarification.

My point is: SoE never intended for it. So, they appeased the customers and screwed it all up, just like they did with MANY other decisions later down the line. I just think P99 staff would be better off not allowing this kind of mistake.

It's a classic mistake that needs not to be repeated. Just my opinion.

[Rararboker]

No ones going to kill him on this server. Not without utilizing exploits. Waking him is a very real threat tho.

[dafier]

No ones going to kill him on this server. Not without utilizing exploits. Waking him is a very real threat tho.

From what I remember....wakening him allowed him to roam the lands for...a week or two. Then he waited in his cave...correct?

[Bruno]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16490

Read the first reply. That should eliminate any further battle plans to attempt to down him. And the people that killed him on Rallos were in PoP gear.

[Secrets]

You guys are just not trying hard enough obviously. You need more people to kill the sleeper, duh. As I expected, casuals.

[Yuuvy The Destroyer]

I restate my earlier question, did the guilds use charmed high level arena guards to tank AoW?

LoS + Shock of Swords, Afterlife, FoH, all of them. AoW was only downed during Velious during a brief, one-week?, period where several very powerful arena mobs were charmable. Verant immediately made these giants non-charmable.

The next mentions of AoW being killed (in my minor research), were within a week of Luclin being launched after many of the luclin features and buffs were already in the game.

So, if the giants are uncharmable here, then, yes. 5 years of Kunark does make things easy.

Kinda. All of the early, pre luclin kills were done with the frozen moses giants. Word at the time was one of them was a shaman, and for some reason that shaman npc could slow any mob that was flagged as unslowable.
After the nerf to the giants most guilds didn't attempt aow again untill luclin was released.