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ravenshade32
10-04-2015, 04:27 AM
I'm sure some people will argue with me on this point but from what I saw and read in /ooc is a lot of the zones this weekend was a huge fail.

Why??

Let me put it to you this way. If I open a bar to sell drinks at regular price i'll get my average flow of customers and I supply enough to keep the demand. Now if on one weekend I advertise to half price on drinks and I keep the same supply whats going to happen? There will clearly not be enough for the demand and this is whats happened for this weekend.

Double experience great, but it has also drawn crowds and power levellers that NEED a bigger supply, some zones easily doubling their average weekend capacity. For example KC on average had 45 people in zone thats clearly too many to have enough mobs to keep people happy with the regular spawn times and trust me it wasnt, people were taking mobs left right and center.

A smart move would have been halving the normal mob respawn timers to keep up with the demand, leave the names how it was. If you have to fight over mobs and the spawns arent keeping up with demand it negates the double experience as youre getting a lot less mobs to kill.

TBH the only ones that benefitted from this weekend are the no lifers that played 24/7 and stayed in a camp spot. Also the fact that power levelling wasn't banned for the weekend was an absolute joke.

I hope the GMS learn from this so we don't have another fucked up double experience weekend.

PlatLordlolz
10-04-2015, 04:57 AM
double XP is the equivalent to society collapsing and chaos breaking out.

radda
10-04-2015, 04:58 AM
I had the best time in kc last double exp. Shit was insane and I pulled many mobs to my groupies. Eye of Zomm was the key.

Pyrion
10-04-2015, 05:01 AM
On double xp weekend DO NOT GO TO THE SAME OVERPOPULATED ZONES. It's really simple and common sense. I had a great time yesterday in paw. There are a lot of ghost towns on the server, utilize them, at least for this weekend.

radda
10-04-2015, 05:05 AM
^exactly

PlatLordlolz
10-04-2015, 05:14 AM
On double xp weekend DO NOT GO TO THE SAME OVERPOPULATED ZONES. It's really simple and common sense. I had a great time yesterday in paw. There are a lot of ghost towns on the server, utilize them, at least for this weekend.

hole, kedge, dreadlands, thurgadin, emerald jungle, kaesora, all PACKED.

Tasslehofp99
10-04-2015, 05:26 AM
learn to play and u wont be so mad

radda
10-04-2015, 05:49 AM
There were many mobs in DL

Colgate 2.0
10-04-2015, 05:51 AM
people who played more everquest did more things in everquest

personally i'm shocked

ravenshade32
10-04-2015, 06:09 AM
"learn to play and u wont be so mad"

Typical uneducated and totally irrelevant response. Knowing or not knowing how to play will not make any difference to the lack of mobs, maybe someone needs to sit down and explain that too you lol. Also at no point did I say i was mad about it I just hardly played and did other things. I was more stating that the event failed on a whole and it should be done better next time.

Itap
10-04-2015, 06:10 AM
Had a blast in Perma with 5 other druids, and gained 2 levels

Pint
10-04-2015, 06:16 AM
Gah stupid gms didn't even ban power leveling? fucking amateur hour up in here!

Bruno
10-04-2015, 06:30 AM
Can we just get the I couldn't figure out how to exp / GMs need to up spawn rates for double exp weekend threads stickied so these dudes don't have to continuously waste their time writing tl;dr posts?

LostCause
10-04-2015, 06:46 AM
sounds like op is just bd a eq.



























































NEXT

Sweettouch
10-04-2015, 07:31 AM
I'm sure some people will argue with me on this point but from what I saw and read in /ooc is a lot of the zones this weekend was a huge fail.

Why??

Let me put it to you this way. If I open a bar to sell drinks at regular price i'll get my average flow of customers and I supply enough to keep the demand. Now if on one weekend I advertise to half price on drinks and I keep the same supply whats going to happen? There will clearly not be enough for the demand and this is whats happened for this weekend.

Double experience great, but it has also drawn crowds and power levellers that NEED a bigger supply, some zones easily doubling their average weekend capacity. For example KC on average had 45 people in zone thats clearly too many to have enough mobs to keep people happy with the regular spawn times and trust me it wasnt, people were taking mobs left right and center.

A smart move would have been halving the normal mob respawn timers to keep up with the demand, leave the names how it was. If you have to fight over mobs and the spawns arent keeping up with demand it negates the double experience as youre getting a lot less mobs to kill.

TBH the only ones that benefitted from this weekend are the no lifers that played 24/7 and stayed in a camp spot. Also the fact that power levelling wasn't banned for the weekend was an absolute joke.

I hope the GMS learn from this so we don't have another fucked up double experience weekend.



People like you are why we can't have nice things

myriverse
10-04-2015, 07:53 AM
There were about 400 (not an exaggeration) more people than usual. I can see where that would create a lack of mobs in places. But for most, there are other places.

ridiculousmoose
10-04-2015, 08:36 AM
There was plenty of shit to kill in both sebilis and the hole. Both have had like 6+ groups going constantly...

Karnor's fills up even without double xp on weekends... what kind of idiot would choose there? 3-4 decent groups could kill the majority of shit in the zone.

zanderklocke
10-04-2015, 10:00 AM
"A smart move would have been halving the normal mob respawn timers to keep up with the demand, leave the names how it was. If you have to fight over mobs and the spawns arent keeping up with demand it negates the double experience as youre getting a lot less mobs to kill."

I don't understand this logic at all. Because mobs give twice as much experience, they should spawn twice as fast. What? I mean why don't the GMs just make it quadruple experience weekend...haha.

Froakula
10-04-2015, 10:01 AM
My only gripe is for people like myself who can't play weekends really. Would love if they'd add a weekday or two. I know it turned on 1pm Friday est so I got like 3 hours of it at least. Minor gripe, shits classic, etc.

Eldini
10-04-2015, 10:06 AM
So while 30+ people in The Hole is pretty crazy, the zone is nowhere near its total capacity. There are mobs everywhere.

In general though I agree that the "regular hotspots" are inhabitable right now (Charasis in particular).

jarshale
10-04-2015, 10:09 AM
I got some levels in a nice quiet spot in kunark. Just gotta know where to look.

Man0warr
10-04-2015, 10:27 AM
Runnyeye and Paw only had 1-5 ppl in them most the weekend - don't all go crowd in Mistmoore.

Mojo24
10-04-2015, 10:30 AM
Not sure if troll or not? You're obviously going to have a bad time if you go to zones that are crowded anyway.

Also your puller just needs to learn2pull. I used to keep other groups on lock with minimal spawns because I'd have the timers on all the spawns so they never stood a chance.

Pyrion
10-04-2015, 11:08 AM
EQ is literally HUGE. I could understand your problem if there would be 3000 ppl online, but for 1500 its still very easy going... as long as you are not like a lemming going to the same old places over and over again.

fastboy21
10-04-2015, 11:20 AM
trick is to get off the beaten trail. take some of your friends and find a good exp spot in a zone that doesn't get population bombed on double exp weekends (i.e. stay out KC!).

going lfg for 5 hours to get into a KC grp that is fighting tooth and nail for mobs isn't going to net you any bonus exp most likely at the end of the night.

indiscriminate_hater
10-04-2015, 11:54 AM
saw a group in TRAKS TEETH last night just absoluting smashing mobs. zero comptetion and hundreds to choose from.

have a little fucking imagination

JboxCSU
10-04-2015, 12:05 PM
Thoughts for 25 monk solo? Tried SK, Cazic, Everfrost, Permafrost and all busy...I'm trying to avoid LOIO like the plague.

Gadwen
10-04-2015, 12:39 PM
Did a crawl through Dalnir last night, think I saw 1 other person come in zone and do a CC but thats about it. Exp was great and we had a blast, really glad we decided to spend our right there rather than fighting over mobs in an overcrowded zone.

triad
10-04-2015, 01:13 PM
I'm sure some people will argue with me on this point but from what I saw and read in /ooc is a lot of the zones this weekend was a huge fail.

Why??

Let me put it to you this way. If I open a bar to sell drinks at regular price i'll get my average flow of customers and I supply enough to keep the demand. Now if on one weekend I advertise to half price on drinks and I keep the same supply whats going to happen? There will clearly not be enough for the demand and this is whats happened for this weekend.

Double experience great, but it has also drawn crowds and power levellers that NEED a bigger supply, some zones easily doubling their average weekend capacity. For example KC on average had 45 people in zone thats clearly too many to have enough mobs to keep people happy with the regular spawn times and trust me it wasnt, people were taking mobs left right and center.

A smart move would have been halving the normal mob respawn timers to keep up with the demand, leave the names how it was. If you have to fight over mobs and the spawns arent keeping up with demand it negates the double experience as youre getting a lot less mobs to kill.

TBH the only ones that benefitted from this weekend are the no lifers that played 24/7 and stayed in a camp spot. Also the fact that power levelling wasn't banned for the weekend was an absolute joke.

I hope the GMS learn from this so we don't have another fucked up double experience weekend.

i stopped reading when you used KC as an example... thats a hub zone for travel and a shitty exp zone.. like everyone said use some creativity in zone selection and do some exploring

jarshale
10-04-2015, 01:19 PM
Half the spawn timers I just noticed that dumb shit. Make the staff go through a giant hassle because you can't search the wiki for another place to level?

simp403
10-04-2015, 02:05 PM
Where can a 51 Necro go for good exp? I can still pick up a couple guards in Felwithe, but there's typically other necros here too.

Also, doubling respawn timers is all kinds of stupid. As someone pointed out, that would effectively be 4x exp and in most cases the people camping a spot would just kill the mobs as quickly as they would respawn.

B4EQWASCOOL
10-04-2015, 02:12 PM
"learn to play and u wont be so mad"

Typical uneducated and totally irrelevant response. Knowing or not knowing how to play will not make any difference to the lack of mobs, maybe someone needs to sit down and explain that too you lol. Also at no point did I say i was mad about it I just hardly played and did other things. I was more stating that the event failed on a whole and it should be done better next time.

Come to red with your whiny, neurotic bitch personality and I will personally grief you until we get a meltdown in /ooc. Gross.

iruinedyourday
10-04-2015, 02:16 PM
Its called The Purge, deal with it.

simp403
10-04-2015, 02:19 PM
Its called The Purge, deal with it.

Is P1999 a Purge society?

indiscriminate_hater
10-04-2015, 02:22 PM
Come to red with your whiny, neurotic bitch personality and I will personally grief you until we get a meltdown in /ooc. Gross.

Watch out, we've got an internet tough guy over here

Oleris
10-04-2015, 02:27 PM
shit was so bad I saw 20 people XP'ing in skyfire l o l

B4EQWASCOOL
10-04-2015, 02:47 PM
Watch out, we've got an internet tough guy over here

Tougher than you, Sally.

iruinedyourday
10-04-2015, 04:10 PM
Is P1999 a Purge society?

Red99 is :D

http://i.imgur.com/ndMtPm0.gif

simp403
10-04-2015, 04:43 PM
"Tunnel Ratatat"

lol

Gain
10-04-2015, 06:36 PM
Lack of mo s to pull? I beg to differ. Took me 3 and a half hours to get from 41 to 42 in CoM Saturday morning with 25 people in zone. It took me and a monk running around constantly looking for pulls but it is possible. And no we did not pull from the other camps if they were camped.

simp403
10-04-2015, 06:42 PM
Red99 is :D

http://i.imgur.com/ndMtPm0.gif

Someone needs to repeatedly purge Squeek then.

B4EQWASCOOL
10-04-2015, 06:50 PM
Squeek is persistent even after purge. I sat there and healed his target for hours. War of wills...

fastboy21
10-04-2015, 07:26 PM
"Tunnel Ratatat"

lol

kekekek

Savok
10-04-2015, 07:37 PM
My only gripe is for people like myself who can't play weekends really. Would love if they'd add a weekday or two. I know it turned on 1pm Friday est so I got like 3 hours of it at least. Minor gripe, shits classic, etc.

simp403
10-04-2015, 11:18 PM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/d1/d120d9338026e8756decd00f1a4d8f7ac922436b2a63412a9c 4e16311e072d44.jpg

kined
10-05-2015, 09:26 AM
Double experience great, but it has also drawn crowds and power levellers that NEED a bigger supply, some zones easily doubling their average weekend capacity. For example KC on average had 45 people in zone thats clearly too many to have enough mobs to keep people happy with the regular spawn times and trust me it wasnt, people were taking mobs left right and center.



ahahaha you are a special one arent you... "i went to kc on double exp weekend and it was so packed i couldnt get better exp /cry....

seriously, are you that dense that you think you can go to the busiest upper level zone on the busiest weekend, and expect it to just have endless mobs? smarten up for christ sakes. i wasnt on an excessive ammount of time and i found a few different places to jump in in for exp, and one of them had enough mobs for me and cleric friend to pull non stop for hours and hours. just because it didnt work for you since you couldnt put in the slightest effort/thought doesnt mean it was a huge fail.


rofl KC on double exp weekend. you're adorable OP

kined
10-05-2015, 09:37 AM
also just want to point out that you are thinking from the most selfish point of view possible... you dont seem to understand that since the same number of mobs pop with the same timers but have double experience points..... the total exp gain for the server is doubled. just because you arent able to get in but tons of other groups do is inconsequential. the server benefited from this and like everything else in everquest - the people that can get to things first and stick on them the longest wins. thats just the way of the game. its about the whole server, not just yourself.

skryeguy
10-05-2015, 11:16 AM
Overthere and Burning wood had enough mobs for me to still pull 40+ mob swarms

If a bard can do that still in a zone then it is not too overpopulated.

Spyder73
10-05-2015, 11:37 AM
Just to give some perspective on how busy the server was, I saw 2 OOC fights over camps in Permafrost this weekend....I cant even imagine KC or Seb.

Smart money would have been to make your own group and do HS or hole for 50+

maskedmelon
10-05-2015, 11:38 AM
Sorry to hear dbl xp didn't work out for you OP. It seems the solution best suited to your preferences is instancing. Not looking to put words in your mouth, but it seems you are frustrated that you have to compete. Norrath is an open world of scarce resources ^^

On red we had some players attempt to simulate this blue problem for us (/salute), but the solution for maximizing utility from dbl xp was the same: avoid regular grouping hotspots.

Hopefully you are able to make the best if the next one! ^^

Swish
10-05-2015, 01:54 PM
On double xp weekend DO NOT GO TO THE SAME OVERPOPULATED ZONES. It's really simple and common sense. I had a great time yesterday in paw. There are a lot of ghost towns on the server, utilize them, at least for this weekend.

Missed this one due to no internet but the last double XP weekend (before quitting blue) I remember going into Kedge with a few pals and every camp in there was taken.... how often does that happen?

Monty405
10-05-2015, 02:39 PM
When is no XP weekend coming?

mrshzzit
10-07-2015, 12:44 AM
OP mad.

Pokesan
10-07-2015, 12:55 AM
When is no XP weekend coming?

this is every weekend when VS is in window and B A D trains are happening to get a clear tag on him and wipe with 50

sickening

Gustoo
10-07-2015, 01:06 AM
There are a lot of zones that aren't used in the game, even on blue.

Blue is full of assholes because there is no PVP. Those power levelers should have gone to a more remote zone.

But since you can't do anything about it on blue (bad server) you should have found another nice zone to exp at.

Red had an amazing double EXP weekend.

LethClaypool
10-07-2015, 08:29 AM
Man, being a druid is great. Can check all my camps and mobilize somewhere else within minutes and don't have to wait on a stinking group.

stormlord
10-08-2015, 02:12 PM
Addicts. There's help for you.

Pleas watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCWkvN8WxFg