yowl sploitin?

[Colgate]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211901

yikes

dat's some very thinly veiled justification for killing obviously broken mobs

[Ella`Ella]

They 'sploitin' hard. Clearin' VP without managing a single trash mob and calling the free loot a "reward for testing bugs".

It's disgusting, Colgate.

[Swish]

Raid bans inc, surely...

[Colgate]

yaw that pixel sickness is disgusting

thank god on red we're well adjusted enough to call raids off for the day while this gets fixed

[Champion_Standing]

They model citizens of Norrath I seriously doubt they would ever do something like get easy pixels from broken mobs.

[portbitch69]

Bugs or no bugs, the mobs would die anyway

[Mead]

Bugs or no bugs, the mobs would die anyway

Yup. Umbrella salty as fuck he's on the wrong team. Funny this is what disgusts him lol. Time to step away from the computer pal.

[Ella`Ella]

Thank God Empire, the Christian, family-friendly guild saved me from this filth.

[Swish]

Bugs or no bugs, the mobs would die anyway

That's like saying Catherin using 3rd party programs (autofire) or not.... someone was handing in for Ragefire so he might as well have it.

[portbitch69]

That's like saying Catherin using 3rd party programs (autofire) or not.... someone was handing in for Ragefire so he might as well have it.

No its not at all

[Mead]

That's like saying Catherin using 3rd party programs (autofire) or not.... someone was handing in for Ragefire so he might as well have it.

That's not what he's saying at all. If it wasn't Rampage we were talking about here who are going to kill those mobs with or without the changes, then there might be an argument here. It's getting made into a bigger deal than it really needs to be.

[Swish]

Exploiting is exploiting, at the very least the loot should be deleted... unless its equal access to that exploit until every raiding guild gets to use it.

[Mead]

Exploiting is exploiting, at the very least the loot should be deleted... unless its equal access to that exploit until every raiding guild gets to use it.

Stick to posting memes pal.

[Ella`Ella]

So, once BDA trash discovered that mobs weren't behaving normally, they figured it was perfectly acceptable to kill raid targets? I'm looking in bug reports and don't see any BDA posting the results of their "bug investigation".

[Lojik]

Seems like this issue really bugs you guys

[Oleris]

where the bug reports?

[Colgate]

how is "the mobs would die anyway" a justification for abusing broken content? by your logic, we should just cut out the middle man and give raid loot to people who simply enter the zone

[Pokesan]

hopefully Rogean does the right thing and disbands BDA

cleanse the sickness

[Visual]

Roll it back, Walmart

[portbitch69]

we should just cut out the middle man and give raid loot to people who simply enter the zone

Isn't that what ur guild does on a pvp server? That's ur logic not mine

The content was accidently broken by the server staff. No one is at fault here, we're all playing the same game. I'm sure if the staff really cared about content that's been known for 15 years they would have tested it before releasing the patch. I bet staff could even disable raid targets from spawning if it meant that much. But it doesn't really matter, stop crying that another guild is killing something they're "not supposed to" because their neckbeard isn't as bad as urs

[xbo]

Isn't that what ur guild does on a pvp server? That's ur logic not mine

The content was accidently broken by the server staff. No one is at fault here, we're all playing the same game. I'm sure if the staff really cared about content that's been known for 15 years they would have tested it before releasing the patch. I bet staff could even disable raid targets from spawning if it meant that much. But it doesn't really matter, stop crying that another guild is killing something they're "not supposed to" because their neckbeard isn't as bad as urs

You sound really fucking stupid. Just FYI

[portbitch69]

Thanks ur opinion means a lot to me

[candycrushsaga]

But Colgate Massa Sir...

We can't be leavin' dem mobs up... not on a server wit actual real live guild competition no sir...

We gotta slay dem no matta what cuz dem other guilds be lurkin'

I know you got it all cozy on dat other server... but over here we gotta be on the lookout fo realz...

[contemptor]

yaw that pixel sickness is thank god on red we're well adjusted
http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj0fq1vlvd1qibz0jo1_r1_1280.png

[bubur]

ban everyone who logged on today

[jwargod]

Is it true if I post on here, I'm automatically banned from joining certain guilds?

Also should I put Swish on ignore and consider Red and join Empire?

[Swish]

Do as you please, if you want to join the BDA/Taken cattle farm it's your choice. Try not to have an opinion though, those submissive raiders who don't question bad systems are the best.

[ridiculousmoose]

lol at red taking a day off from raid mobs.. like it matters.. theres no one else on your server to kill the mobs anyways, what does a day matter?

[bubur]

https://socialsteve.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/business-integrity.png

[maskedmelon]

...No one is at fault here...

That does not justify exploitation of the incident. Relying on written rules as a moral compass is a symptom of our degenerate society. The question wouldn't have been raised, nor the issue even discussed if people didn't know what they were doing was wrong. Allowing the behavior of others to drive one's moral compass is equally vile. It's the kind of behavior that leads to shopping carts in planters 10' away from the cart return, empty beverage containers discarded on retail shelves, and genocide.

[Mead]

That does not justify exploitation of the incident. Relying on written rules as a moral compass is a symptom of our degenerate society. The question wouldn't have been raised, nor the issue even discussed if people didn't know what they were doing was wrong. Allowing the behavior of others to drive one's moral compass is equally vile. It's the kind of behavior that leads to shopping carts in planters 10' away from the cart return, empty beverage containers discarded on retail shelves, and genocide.

Another Cecily over here. Comparing killing mobs in a video game to genocide. How does one end up like you people?

[maskedmelon]

Another Cecily over here. Comparing killing mobs in a video game to genocide. How does one end up like you people?

Questions.

The issue with behavior in the present situation is a matter of the willful exchange of intellectual sovereignty for intellectual/moral servitude, in the pursuit of fleeting self interests. If someone consistently relies on others for their own opinions even in the face of those things which they intuitively recognize as wrong, then their intellectual surrender is complete and the sway others hold over their decisions is absolute.

[Raije1000]

^^What a creep

[Era'viss]

The issue with behavior in the present situation is a matter of the willful exchange of intellectual sovereignty for intellectual/moral servitude, in the pursuit of fleeting self interests. If someone consistently relies on others for their own opinions even in the face of those things which they intuitively recognize as wrong, then their intellectual surrender is complete and the sway others hold over their decisions is absolute.

Feels like I just read an excerpt from a new Star Trek movie script where Spock is berating Kirk in front of Star Fleet Command.

[Swish]

People can't comprehend maskedmelon's last post so they stick to what they know, trolling and making personal attacks. I sure am glad I don't play on the same server as some of you.

[Itap]

People can't comprehend maskedmelon's last post so they stick to what they know, trolling and making personal attacks. I sure am glad I don't play on the same server as some of you.

Trust me swish, I understand where you're coming from, but what are we supposed to do as players, stop playing until the server is fixed? Literally the entire server is broken. You can run straight to any mob you want, in any zone, without being aggrod by anything (see ToV).

Do you want us to not log in until the server is fixed?

[Itap]

And im not talking just raid targets are broken, almost all aggro is non existant. It didnt seem like raptors were social aggroing earlier, does that mean i shouldn't kill them? Ive killed a ton of them before this patch, am i wrong for killing them today?

[LostCause]

More Lucky Than Exploit ahh the good ol days.

[Pokesan]

And im not talking just raid targets are broken, almost all aggro is non existant. It didnt seem like raptors were social aggroing earlier, does that mean i shouldn't kill them? Ive killed a ton of them before this patch, am i wrong for killing them today?

I guess it depends if 1) raptors drop endgame loot and 2) You'd otherwise require 100x more pulling skill/technique to defeat them

Is that the case?

[Era'viss]

People can't comprehend maskedmelon's last post so they stick to what they know, trolling and making personal attacks. I sure am glad I don't play on the same server as some of you.

Whoa. Was just making joking around about the wording of a post. Not doing a personal attack or trolling. Spock is a badass, so it could almost be taken as a compliment.

If I did offend Mr. Maskedmelon, then I do apologize.

[LostCause]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2040&d=1326406514

[Ella`Ella]

More Lucky Than Exploit ahh the good ol days.

More duct tape than exploit was my favorite.

[Itap]

I guess it depends if 1) raptors drop endgame loot and 2) You'd otherwise require 100x more pulling skill/technique to defeat them

Is that the case?

So now were going to be picky on whats okay and not okay to exploit, got ya

[Pokesan]

So now were going to be picky on whats okay and not okay to exploit, got ya

No reasonable person thinks a lootless 12 minute respawn is at all comparable to a dragon.

my good chum

[Man0warr]

I guess it depends if 1) raptors drop endgame loot and 2) You'd otherwise require 100x more pulling skill/technique to defeat them

Is that the case?

Not sure how #2 applies to BDA killing Druushk with 35 players - since we've killed him half a dozen times before with less.

[Itap]

No reasonable person thinks a lootless 12 minute respawn is at all comparable to a dragon.

my good chum

There are dozens of other examples that are technically exploiting.

How about running thru seb, with no mob aggro, to 1 specific mob and killing. Is that enough exploitation for you?

[Phantasm]

its like, no matter where I go I see BDA-hate. Can we just have a stickied thread in RnF for all BDA-spittle to wind up in ? Just kind of a culimnation of the rustle if you will.... a place where BDA can go to get their laughs for the day while the rest *froth*.

I mean... that idea actually has potential! Where is the ANTI-BDA thread with 26k posts ? C'mon someone do it already!

[Swish]

I'm just waiting to see when the next BDA breakaway guild happens, I imagine there's going to be another one - its too swollen at the moment.

[dafier]

I'm just waiting to see when the next BDA breakaway guild happens, I imagine there's going to be another one - its too swollen at the moment.

Au contraire mon frere, tis not.

[Pokesan]

Not sure how #2 applies to BDA killing Druushk with 35 players - since we've killed him half a dozen times before with less.

If you've successfully bought groceries before, does that entitle you to free groceries during a power outage?

[Relbaic]

If you've successfully bought groceries before, does that entitle you to free groceries during a power outage?

According to you that depends on how big of a grocery store.

[Nibblewitz]

It was more like walking into a car dealership to buy a car, but not being harangued by salespeople.

[Champion_Standing]

Such a shame to see so many Norrathian citizens engaged in this behavior. BDA is this how to repay Rogean for his thousands of hours of charitable work running this server?

[Man0warr]

If you've successfully bought groceries before, does that entitle you to free groceries during a power outage?

Bad analogy. If P99's problems were as bad as a power outage in a grocery store, then the server wouldn't even be up or would be shut down.

Better one would be if I'm traveling down a toll road I go down every day (P99) but today the cameras/sensors happen to be malfunctioning and don't charge me, It's not going to stop me from using the road.

If the highway authority (Rogean) doesn't see fit to close to the road (P99) while repairs are being made, then I'll continue on like usual. They also wouldn't retroactively charge me while their shit is broken, and just chalk it up as a loss.

[Swish]

Are you the car though, or is that your guild? If that's your guild, who's driving?...and who takes your plat every day for the privilege of being able to go down that road? Your guild is RMT'ing?

I don't think you've thought this through.

[Man0warr]

Exactly.

[Ella`Ella]

[BDA]Your guild is RMT'ing.

[Man0warr]

The "toll" in this analogy is the AE that Druushk casts, which were missing. But like a 40 cent toll, is mostly insignificant either way.

[Champion_Standing]

The "toll" in this analogy is the AE that Druushk casts, which were missing. But like a 40 cent toll, is mostly insignificant either way.

But not paying it still makes u a criminal

[dafier]

Are you the car though, or is that your guild? If that's your guild, who's driving?...and who takes your plat every day for the privilege of being able to go down that road? Your guild is RMT'ing?

I don't think you've thought this through.

Interesting because I believe he at least thought before posting unlike you.

[Juevento]

Such a shame to see so many Norrathian citizens engaged in this behavior. BDA is this how to repay Rogean for his thousands of hours of charitable work running this server?

I thank Rogean with my donations every few months. The last one was $100. How do you thank Rog and pals?

[dafier]

But not paying it still makes u a criminal

Another person who posted without thinking first.

To answer you:

No, it does not.

If the service of the toll is down, there is no way or manner in which you can pay. Thus, if you go through the same area in which the toll resides, and it is not working due to a malfunction in which is managed by an entity whom is working on a fix but has yet to fix, you are not responsible for dues because of something that is out of your control.

Now, if there was a server wide post by Rogean or Sirkin or Staff saying "DO NOT CROSS THIS TOLL OR ELSE..."

Then you would be a criminal for not abiding by the managing entity.

[Champion_Standing]

Another person who posted without thinking first.

To answer you:

No, it does not.

If the service of the toll is down, there is no way or manner in which you can pay. Thus, if you go through the same area in which the toll resides, and it is not working due to a malfunction in which is managed by an entity whom is working on a fix but has yet to fix, you are not responsible for dues because of something that is out of your control.

Now, if there was a server wide post by Rogean or Sirkin or Staff saying "DO NOT CROSS THIS TOLL OR ELSE..."

Then you would be a criminal for not abiding by the managing entity.

Nope wrong, still criminals and scum guild

[dafier]

Nope wrong, still criminals and scum guild

^^^ is SOE mentality.

[Nibblewitz]

Troll Toll (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBvcB0idTH0)

[Champion_Standing]

^^^ is SOE mentality.

I'm sorry officer the registers were down at the store so I just walked out with all these groceries cuz I couldn't pay, its not my fault that their registers don't work.

[Swish]

I think dafier is the guy who plays GTA 5 and stops at every red light because that's the lawful thing to do

[dafier]

I think dafier is the guy who plays GTA 5 and stops at every red light because that's the lawful thing to do

HOLY SMOKES that would be so boring.

Loser_Standing:
Changing directions there.....

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8X_Ot0k4XJc/mqdefault.jpg

[Champion_Standing]

HOLY SMOKES that would be so boring.

Loser_Standing:
Changing directions there.....

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8X_Ot0k4XJc/mqdefault.jpg

You are bad at this

[maskedmelon]

Better one would be if I'm traveling down a toll road I go down every day (P99) but today the cameras/sensors happen to be malfunctioning and don't charge me, It's not going to stop me from using the road.

If the highway authority (Rogean) doesn't see fit to close to the road (P99) while repairs are being made, then I'll continue on like usual. They also wouldn't retroactively charge me while their shit is broken, and just chalk it up as a loss.

Clever!

It is not quite representative of the situation though, because the toll in the scenario you present only serves to dissuade use of the highway under ordinary circumstances. It never serves to impede your access to or progress down the road. The presently absent P99 features normally would serve as obstacles (however small or large) to loot. The tolls will never deny access to the road.

That aside, the analogy implies that all possible outcomes are morally justified because they are possible outcomes. It defers moral judgement to others and favors compulsion over individual responsibility. In other words, if one is not prohibited from doing a thing, then that thing is ok.

That is a dangerous philosophy to embrace.

[Juevento]

One of the things I love about this forum is how wrapped around the axle you all get over describing the intricacies of the perfect alterations to an analogy.

<3

[Colgate]

yea there's some serious autism at work in this thread

[Ghost of Jibekn]

http://puu.sh/iPUmd/488dccfade.jpg

[xbo]

I don't get it

[Maner]

That's not what he's saying at all. If it wasn't Rampage we were talking about here who are going to kill those mobs with or without the changes, then there might be an argument here. It's getting made into a bigger deal than it really needs to be.

Some of the raiding guilds didnt even attempt mobs because they were clearly broken. The fact that other guilds did without caring shows who is really at fault. Claiming you were doing it to test for the GMs is a joke, as all raid mobs were broken the same way. It was clear greed with a lack of morals and should be punished

[AzzarTheGod]

So, once BDA trash discovered that mobs weren't behaving normally, they figured it was perfectly acceptable to kill raid targets? I'm looking in bug reports and don't see any BDA posting the results of their "bug investigation".

I couldn't find a single timely post from any BDA reporting the bugs or any results of their raid investigations per kill.

Disgusted really.

[Ella`Ella]

I couldn't find a single timely post from any BDA reporting the bugs or any results of their raid investigations per kill.

Disgusted really.

And you won't. Only after I asked Chest in officer forums (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211901), he then had one of his members post a very vague, nondescript bug report (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211979) - a day late, mind you.

[Shjade]

That aside, the analogy implies that all possible outcomes are morally justified because they are possible outcomes. It defers moral judgement to others and favors compulsion over individual responsibility. In other words, if one is not prohibited from doing a thing, then that thing is ok.

That is a dangerous philosophy to embrace.

It is.

Unfortunately, it's also far too common among certain demographics.

Without dragging the whole mess into this thread, an incident regarding a certain website's hosting pictures of minors in questionable states of exposure being defended by folks on the grounds that "it's not illegal" comes to mind.

[Fenken]

Velious etc isn't going anywhere, so the people acting like they can't just stop raiding/doing stuff as a guild until things are fixed are pretty funny. You guys can take a break and do other things ya'know. I promise that it won't kill you or your fucking guild lol. But I guess since some of ya'll have no integrity at all, continue on with hurrying and getting your pixels and trying to justify as to why you can't take a couple nights off.

[Troubled]

Velious etc isn't going anywhere, so the people acting like they can't just stop raiding/doing stuff as a guild until things are fixed are pretty funny. You guys can take a break and do other things ya'know. I promise that it won't kill you or your fucking guild lol. But I guess since some of ya'll have no integrity at all, continue on with hurrying and getting your pixels and trying to justify as to why you can't take a couple nights off.

trolled

[Mojo24]

yea there's some serious autism at work in this thread

It's hilarious, leave them be. These forums and P99 are the only meaningful thing in some people's lives haha.

[simp403]

Reading the responses in this thread has made me reflect on what the fuck I'm doing playing this game. Unfortunately nothing has come from this reflection.

[Llodd]

Clever!

It is not quite representative of the situation though, because the toll in the scenario you present only serves to dissuade use of the highway under ordinary circumstances. It never serves to impede your access to or progress down the road. The presently absent P99 features normally would serve as obstacles (however small or large) to loot. The tolls will never deny access to the road.

That aside, the analogy implies that all possible outcomes are morally justified because they are possible outcomes. It defers moral judgement to others and favors compulsion over individual responsibility. In other words, if one is not prohibited from doing a thing, then that thing is ok.

That is a dangerous philosophy to embrace.

That sums it up quite nicely (though perhaps without the danger, it is a game afterall)

The question then is, and I will probably phrase this all wrong as I don't possess such eloquence; is this mindset of their officers a deliberate and conscious thought on how they have chosen to play the game ? Or are they just ignorant of their actions?

[Bruno]

Some young philosophers in this thread.

[Verath]

Embarrassing thread, reminds me of why I only stayed on P99 for a brief period of time.

[Nirgon]

Isn't that what ur guild does on a pvp server? That's ur logic not mine

The content was accidently broken by the server staff. No one is at fault here, we're all playing the same game. I'm sure if the staff really cared about content that's been known for 15 years they would have tested it before releasing the patch. I bet staff could even disable raid targets from spawning if it meant that much. But it doesn't really matter, stop crying that another guild is killing something they're "not supposed to" because their neckbeard isn't as bad as urs



This is a valid defense

[Maner]

This is a valid defense

No it isn't. As there were other raiding guilds who took the high road and refused to fight broken content. For example rampage killing sont with 25, that is a clear exploit and blatant use of broken mechanics. They also used broken mechanics to pull past trash and skip a guild that was actually clearing trash as you are supposed to in ntov. On live this issue would have been fixed immediately the fact that it wasn't isn't somehow the GMs giving their approval to kill broken content. Would you go rob a bank just because no one told you it was illegal?

[JackFlash]

Some young philosophers in this thread.

#bringbacktags2015

[Swish]

#bringbacktags2015

[AzzarTheGod]

No it isn't. As there were other raiding guilds who took the high road and refused to fight broken content. For example rampage killing sont with 25, that is a clear exploit and blatant use of broken mechanics. They also used broken mechanics to pull past trash and skip a guild that was actually clearing trash as you are supposed to in ntov. On live this issue would have been fixed immediately the fact that it wasn't isn't somehow the GMs giving their approval to kill broken content. Would you go rob a bank just because no one told you it was illegal?

This. BDA knows what they can go do.

[JayDee]

No it isn't. As there were other raiding guilds who took the high road and refused to fight broken content.

The saying ain't nice guys finish first

[Man0warr]

This. BDA knows what they can go do.

Only mob BDA killed was with the same numbers we always kill with - we also pulled it the exact same way despite the aggro mechanics. No exploiting here.

[Kekephee]

This. BDA knows what they can go do.

-Guy talks about Rampage doing stuff
-You go YEAH BDA CAN GO TO HELL

[kaev]

-Guy talks about Rampage doing stuff
-You go YEAH BDA CAN GO TO HELL

This is RnF. Reading comprehension is not required here, it's discouraged.

Oh wait, I did that wrong...

BDA SUXXORS!!! BLARG DEATH DEATH DEATH!!!!

[Lulz.Sect]

Blubies cheating? Say it AIN' SO!

[BigLe2e]

No it isn't. As there were other raiding guilds who took the high road and refused to fight broken content. For example rampage killing sont with 25, that is a clear exploit and blatant use of broken mechanics. They also used broken mechanics to pull past trash and skip a guild that was actually clearing trash as you are supposed to in ntov. On live this issue would have been fixed immediately the fact that it wasn't isn't somehow the GMs giving their approval to kill broken content. Would you go rob a bank just because no one told you it was illegal?

Sounds like those other guilds missed out on some loot to me. If the staff wants to roll it back, then they can roll it back.

Also it's nothing like robbing a bank. They killed a dragon on a free elf sim. Shits gonna respawn bro, quit being such a dildo.

[Llodd]

Sounds like those other guilds missed out on some loot to me. If the staff wants to roll it back, then they can roll it back.

Also it's nothing like robbing a bank. They killed a dragon on a free elf sim. Shits gonna respawn bro, quit being such a dildo.

I don't think you really understand what's at stake here.

For alot of the fine folks on this server, this is exactly like robbing a bank. Their whole life is so closely intertwined with their elfsim characters that it's only a matter of time before it spills out into the 'real' world and someone really gets 'hurt' or even 'killed' . The difference being they aint gonna respawn.

[Messie]

lets all sit back and relax

[beyondinfin]

lets all sit back and relax

I know right?

[BigLe2e]

I don't think you really understand what's at stake here.

For alot of the fine folks on this server, this is exactly like robbing a bank. Their whole life is so closely intertwined with their elfsim characters that it's only a matter of time before it spills out into the 'real' world and someone really gets 'hurt' or even 'killed' . The difference being they aint gonna respawn.

That is probably the saddest but truest analysis for some of these forum questers. I'm glad I don't understand what's at stake.

[Merekai]

Typical BDA scum!

Chev

[LostCause]

That is probably the saddest but truest analysis for some of these forum questers. I'm glad I don't understand what's at stake.

lol nice avatar forgot all about pete and pete that brings back memories.

[simp403]

lets all sit back and relax

[Legday]

I don't think you really understand what's at stake here.

For alot of the fine folks on this server, this is exactly like robbing a bank. Their whole life is so closely intertwined with their elfsim characters that it's only a matter of time before it spills out into the 'real' world and someone really gets 'hurt' or even 'killed' . The difference being they aint gonna respawn.

Jesus. Get a hold of yourself man.

[Llodd]

Jesus. Get a hold of yourself man.

Hehe. When sarcasm is so close to the truth it's a worry ;)

[Nisse]

Hehe. When sarcasm is so close to the truth it's a worry ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Poe's law is an Internet adage which states that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, parodies of extreme views will, to some readers, be indistinguishable from sincere expressions of the parodied views

[trinkets]

And im not talking just raid targets are broken, almost all aggro is non existant. It didnt seem like raptors were social aggroing earlier, does that mean i shouldn't kill them? Ive killed a ton of them before this patch, am i wrong for killing them today?

Are you posting out of a guilty conscience and trying to defend yourself? You specifically were one abusing the server.


[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Liia <The A-Team>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Brutuus <Divinity>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Oracle] Taqu (Bear) <Clue>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Phantasmist] Cuore (Dark Elf) <Rampage>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [56 Revenant] Monkeii (Iksar) <Omni>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [59 Master] Bruize (Iksar) <Taken>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Phantasmist] Tezl (Gnome) <Rampage>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Arch Mage] Fabumbus (Gnome) <The A-Team>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Iribobh <Haggard Krew>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Sorcerer] Sarnath (Erudite) <Haggard Krew>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Oracle] Ellor (Barbarian) <Haggard Krew> LFG
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [58 Luminary] Tardars (Barbarian) <Haggard Krew>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Arch Mage] Sprinkle (High Elf) <Haggard Krew>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Warlock] Zombify (Erudite) <Haggard Krew>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Hierophant] Chinala (Wood Elf) <Taken>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [57 Preserver] Truncated (Halfling) <The A-Team>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] There are 16 players in Plane of Mischief.

Haggard Krew ran maybe 2 groups through NToV to get to the Plane of Mischief. Others did as well, but that was the only large group of people taking full advantage of server instability that I happened to see that day.

This is pretty minor compared to other exploits of the day, but your innocent sounding posts are funny. Tell us Lootenant, how did you get to Mischief exactly? I have a log of you showing up on the same day. I saw only 2 other Haggard Krew in the Plane of Mischief prior to the patch.

[Pokesan]

Are you posting out of a guilty conscience and trying to defend yourself? You specifically were one abusing the server.


[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Liia <The A-Team>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Brutuus <Divinity>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Oracle] Taqu (Bear) <Clue>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Phantasmist] Cuore (Dark Elf) <Rampage>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [56 Revenant] Monkeii (Iksar) <Omni>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [59 Master] Bruize (Iksar) <Taken>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Phantasmist] Tezl (Gnome) <Rampage>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Arch Mage] Fabumbus (Gnome) <The A-Team>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [ANONYMOUS] Iribobh <Haggard Krew>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Sorcerer] Sarnath (Erudite) <Haggard Krew>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Oracle] Ellor (Barbarian) <Haggard Krew> LFG
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [58 Luminary] Tardars (Barbarian) <Haggard Krew>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Arch Mage] Sprinkle (High Elf) <Haggard Krew>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Warlock] Zombify (Erudite) <Haggard Krew>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [60 Hierophant] Chinala (Wood Elf) <Taken>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] [57 Preserver] Truncated (Halfling) <The A-Team>
[Mon Sep 21 21:36:13 2015] There are 16 players in Plane of Mischief.

Haggard Krew ran maybe 2 groups through NToV to get to the Plane of Mischief. Others did as well, but that was the only large group of people taking full advantage of server instability that I happened to see that day.

This is pretty minor compared to other exploits of the day, but your innocent sounding posts are funny. Tell us Lootenant, how did you get to Mischief exactly? I have a log of you showing up on the same day. I saw only 2 other Haggard Krew in the Plane of Mischief prior to the patch.

No BDA in this log paste can only mean they already ran thru and bound their entire guild in PoM prior to less evil guilds such as Haggard Krew learning of the exploit.

[jcr4990]

No BDA in this log paste can only mean they already ran thru and bound their entire guild in PoM prior to less evil guilds such as Haggard Krew learning of the exploit.OR any of the BDA that wanted to bind in PoM already did so weeks ago?

[Llodd]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Not sure Poe's law should apply to something that might actually be true !!

(obligatory ;) ) ;)

[Man0warr]

OR any of the BDA that wanted to bind in PoM already did so weeks ago?

Yep, we've got a coth mage/necro just for PoM.

[Cecily]

Another Cecily over here. Comparing killing mobs in a video game to genocide. How does one end up like you people?

The only reason I'd make an analogy like that would be because I found the comparison funny, not because I meant it literally. Idiot.

[Rangerous]

Y'all should ask for a refund of that monthly fee you pay to play. Honestly, all I see is a lot of bickering, and some responses of "Well, otherguilds didn't do it out of a sense of honor" blah blah blah. The second one stops trying to project their own code on others will be the first second of a happier life.

[simp403]

BDA is bad

[Pokesan]

BDA is bad