Potential financial chaos in the near future

[Ranndom]

For those who havent heard, yesterday the market plunged. The DOW has dropped 888 points in the past 2 days. The last time it dropped over 300 points over the course of 2 days was November 2008, and im sure you guys remember what happened then.
Just friday alone the plunge was 530 points, which is 9th worst single day drop in US history.
The worlds richest people are out of ~182 billion as a whole, all 401k's lost all gains for the year in a single day.
If i were you guys, id withdraw some money because tomorrow, or monday, you might just have none at all if the banks slide.
Hell, people are already saying they've been blocked from accessing their 401k's to withdraw money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_dNeQBWsr4
This guy breaks it down pretty well. Its worth a listen regardless of what your views are.

[am0n]

WTS: [Tinfoil Hat]

[11bangbang]

ive been saying this was going to happen for a long time now... but nooo im just a paranoid conspiracy theorist. excuse me while i tell everyone "i told you so"

[Ranndom]

WTS: [Tinfoil Hat]

All im saying is, it would be a good idea to withdraw some money. Is that really such an insane thing to do? to carry cash?

[Ranndom]

ive been saying this was going to happen for a long time now... but nooo im just a paranoid conspiracy theorist. excuse me while i tell everyone "i told you so"

All the investors in wall street knew it was coming, On cue the infamous 7 year cycle has once occurred proven true. For about the past 2-3 months though its been boldly obvious were gonna hit some sort of rough patch. Just how rough, well were about to find out if its a sand pit or water hazard.

[Tasslehofp99]

All im saying is, it would be a good idea to withdraw some money. Is that really such an insane thing to do? to carry cash?

What the fuck is your cash going to do if there is a real financial melt down?

I'd say get guns/ammo and stock up on food and water.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

ive been saying this was going to happen for a long time now... but nooo im just a paranoid conspiracy theorist. excuse me while i tell everyone "i told you so"

I've noticed your posts, and commented on a couple here on the forums. Being a "conspiracy theorist" isn't necessarily a bad thing, but people think of it as a dirty word or assume we're "crazy". Regardless if people want to believe in what you, or anyone presumes without the proper evidence... there is still right and wrong in the world. We could be wrong, but we could be right. I like being wrong; it means I've learned something. That's how I look at it... but prove it first.

People think I'm crazy for believing that 9/11 was an inside job, but there is so much overwhelming evidence that proves what the government told us is completely false. Even the official detailing of the events that occurred that day are wrong, but people do not want to believe that their own country would kill their own citizens. History people; it happens all the time, it happened then, and it still happens today.

Whether we for in fact did or not; I'm unsure of, but I believe it to be so given the research I've done. Of course, there are all kinds of "studies" that try to prove the "facts" wrong, but meh. We can speculate and assume, or "theorize" what happened that day, but some people will not believe it unless our government flat out tells us, which won't ever happen, and all the people who were formerly working for the government who have spoken out are noted as "conspiracy theorists" as well.

There are plenty of people who believe in God, and there's not been a shred of evidence in regards to that. So people can call me whatever they want; at least I'm not insane and speak to a being that doesn't exist that floats in the sky who watches my every step.



Either way, I'd say become an activist. Speak out. Doing so on these forums of all places will get you no where, and sharing shit on Facebook will net you in the same.

[Pokesan]

I've noticed your posts, and commented on a couple here on the forums. Being a "conspiracy theorist" isn't necessarily a bad thing, but people think of it as a dirty word or assume we're "crazy". Regardless if people want to believe in what you, or anyone presumes without the proper evidence... there is still right and wrong in the world. We could be wrong, but we could be right. I like being wrong; it means I've learned something. That's how I look at it... but prove it first.

People think I'm crazy for believing that 9/11 was an inside job, but there is so much overwhelming evidence that proves what the government told us is completely false. Even the official detailing of the events that occurred that day are wrong, but people do not want to believe that their own country would kill their own citizens. History people; it happens all the time, it happened then, and it still happens today.

Whether we for in fact did or not; I'm unsure of, but I believe it to be so given the research I've done. Of course, there are all kinds of "studies" that try to prove the "facts" wrong, but meh. We can speculate and assume, or "theorize" what happened that day, but some people will not believe it unless our government flat out tells us, which won't ever happen, and all the people who were formerly working for the government who have spoken out are noted as "conspiracy theorists" as well.

There are plenty of people who believe in God, and there's not been a shred of evidence in regards to that. So people can call me whatever they want; at least I'm not insane and speak to a being that doesn't exist that floats in the sky who watches my every step.



Either way, I'd say become an activist. Speak out. Doing so on these forums of all places will get you no where, and sharing shit on Facebook will net you in the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvYN0oUzVzo

[Ranndom]

What the fuck is your cash going to do if there is a real financial melt down?

I'd say get guns/ammo and stock up on food and water.

Theres different levels of melt downs. Just because something can happen doesnt mean the worst is going to happen.
Just remember, the internet went down for 24 hours in alabama and there was riots. What do you thinks gonna happen if the banks slide and everyone money just ups and poofs forever? A bank slide doesnt necessarily mean an immediate melt down either, let alone a melt down at all.
In the end, if you cant do something as simple as withdrawing cash, its their own fault for starving.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvYN0oUzVzo

You're funny. And most people believe in God... need I say more?

Like I said, I do not know for fact; I clearly stated that. I would like to be proven wrong, but the scales lean way more towards that we helped them take down our own buildings; killing thousands of our own people sadly.

And what happened to the pentagon? A plane hit that building they said? If you believe that, then of course you will believe that 9/11 was done by terrorists.

[Pokesan]

You're funny. And most people believe in God... need I say more?

Like I said, I do not know for fact; I clearly stated that. I would like to be proven wrong, but the scales lean way more towards that we helped them take down our own buildings; killing thousands of our own people sadly.

And what happened to the pentagon? A plane hit that building they said? If you believe that, then of course you will believe that 9/11 was done by terrorists.

The part where you criticize theists for having faith/belief seems to conflict with the part where you yourself have faith/belief.

Like why even mention that unless you're trying to make yourself look stupid on purpose?

are you a troll

[Ranndom]

I've noticed your posts, and commented on a couple here on the forums. Being a "conspiracy theorist" isn't necessarily a bad thing, but people think of it as a dirty word or assume we're "crazy". Regardless if people want to believe in what you, or anyone presumes without the proper evidence... there is still right and wrong in the world. We could be wrong, but we could be right. I like being wrong; it means I've learned something. That's how I look at it... but prove it first.

People think I'm crazy for believing that 9/11 was an inside job, but there is so much overwhelming evidence that proves what the government told us is completely false. Even the official detailing of the events that occurred that day are wrong, but people do not want to believe that their own country would kill their own citizens. History people; it happens all the time, it happened then, and it still happens today.

Whether we for in fact did or not; I'm unsure of, but I believe it to be so given the research I've done. Of course, there are all kinds of "studies" that try to prove the "facts" wrong, but meh. We can speculate and assume, or "theorize" what happened that day, but some people will not believe it unless our government flat out tells us, which won't ever happen, and all the people who were formerly working for the government who have spoken out are noted as "conspiracy theorists" as well.

There are plenty of people who believe in God, and there's not been a shred of evidence in regards to that. So people can call me whatever they want; at least I'm not insane and speak to a being that doesn't exist that floats in the sky who watches my every step.



Either way, I'd say become an activist. Speak out. Doing so on these forums of all places will get you no where, and sharing shit on Facebook will net you in the same.
i still laugh at the pentagon being blind sided by a plane. worlds most secure airspace gets penetrated by a huge ass plane that magically disintegrates into a rather tiny hole.
Anyone who thinks knows not to use facebook heh. And its not that im trying to get somewhere. Its that EQ and its community are part of myself, as they are for everyone else. This being so, i feel it necessary to at least let those not completely ignorant to the potential possibilities know what may or may not be just around the corner.
Thats as far as i go though, those who listen, listen. Those who dont, dont. Makes no difference to me wether their family lives or perishes to the hands of an event. Especially when they were told about it beforehand.

[Ranndom]

The part where you criticize theists for having faith/belief seems to conflict with the part where you yourself have faith/belief.

Like why even mention that unless you're trying to make yourself look stupid on purpose?

are you a troll

Funny how you direct your attention to the ironic sarcasm of his statement and completely ignore the factual portion.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

The part where you criticize theists for having faith/belief seems to conflict with the part where you yourself have faith/belief.

Like why even mention that unless you're trying to make yourself look stupid on purpose?

are you a troll

I'm not a troll.

Faith: strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

Rather than proof; or evidence.

Like I said, I do not know for 100% sure whether or not 9/11 was an inside job or not. I would like to be proven wrong because like I said before 1) I would learn something, and 2) I simply do not like the fact that US killed their own citizens for war, money, and oil.

Believing in God... I would consider it IF there were evidence. There is none.

9/11... research it. I'm sure you've heard about the thermite, buildings falling at free-fall speeds, the fucking Pentagon, the beams being split as if they were blown up by demolition, the tests that were involved that were collected from the dust from said buildings, jet engine fuel that CANNOT reach temperatures to melt those beams, thermite pools that can only be created given a certain temperature (which the planes cannot on explosion), the videos recorded by people that day, the LACK of videos showing the pentagon being hit by a plane (no plane in sight, only 1 video of an explosion; no plane). This here doesn't even scratch the surface.

Yea, I'll believe that 9/11 was an inside job well before I'll believe in God. At least for 9/11, I can sit back and ponder it and say "maybe."

[Itap]

Yea, I'll believe that 9/11 was an inside job

What does an "inside job" mean? Are you implying the US govt blew up the twin towers and the pentagon? Why would they do that? Genuine question.

[Pokesan]

I'm not a troll.

Faith: strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

Rather than proof; or evidence.

Like I said, I do not know for 100% sure whether or not 9/11 was an inside job or not. I would like to be proven wrong because like I said before 1) I would learn something, and 2) I simply do not like the fact that US killed their own citizens for war, money, and oil.

Believing in God... I would consider it IF there were evidence. There is none.

9/11... research it. I'm sure you've heard about the thermite, buildings falling at free-fall speeds, the fucking Pentagon, the beams being split as if they were blown up by demolition, the tests that were involved that were collected from the dust from said buildings, jet engine fuel that CANNOT reach temperatures to melt those beams, thermite pools that can only be created given a certain temperature (which the planes cannot on explosion), the videos recorded by people that day, the LACK of videos showing the pentagon being hit by a plane (no plane in sight, only 1 video of an explosion; no plane). This here doesn't even scratch the surface.

Yea, I'll believe that 9/11 was an inside job well before I'll believe in God. At least for 9/11, I can sit back and ponder it and say "maybe."

either you can prove it, or you have faith that your belief is correct.

Luke 6:42

How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

i hope a lion eats you

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

What does an "inside job" mean? Are you implying the US govt blew up the twin towers and the pentagon? Why would they do that? Genuine question.


Inside job meaning: US Government took down those buildings, or helped the "terrorists" do so. Hell, some of these "wanted terrorists" are still alive, and have came out in public saying they aren't terrorists and have no idea why they are on this list. Have we went after them? Nope.


Why? Umm... umm... take some time out of your day if you want and look up what we had to gain for going into War, and I'm sure he made his daddy (Bush Senior) proud by completing what he couldn't. If you don't want to, that's fine too, but if you do and don't believe that we could have possibly done this that is fine also. You'd be one of many who think that.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

either you can prove it, or you have faith that your belief is correct.



i hope a lion eats you

You clearly have shown here that you do not understand the meaning of Faith.

Yes, this is the English language, and words can be slippery, but we must choose our words wisely.


Anyways, I have more important things to do than chit-chat on some forum. Pokesan, your views are different from mine clearly, and that is fine, but you don't need to be such a dick all the time around here.

Have a good day/night sir.

[Itap]

Inside job meaning: US Government took down those buildings, or helped the "terrorists" do so. Hell, some of these "wanted terrorists" are still alive, and have came out in public saying they aren't terrorists and have no idea why they are on this list. Have we went after them? Nope.


Why? Umm... umm... take some time out of your day if you want and look up what we had to gain for going into War, and I'm sure he made his daddy (Bush Senior) proud by completing what he couldn't. If you don't want to, that's fine too, but if you do and don't believe that we could have possibly done this that is fine also. You'd be one of many who think that.

I never said I don't believe you, I was honestly curious as to why you think the US govt would murder thousands of its own people. Oil?

You obviously are educated on the subject, so you would be the person to talk to about this

[Ranndom]

What does an "inside job" mean? Are you implying the US govt blew up the twin towers and the pentagon? Why would they do that? Genuine question.

Inside job meaning they not only allowed to happen, but helped planned it.
You know Larry Silverstein took ownership of the towers, and then dropped a HUGE insurance policy specifically for terrorism just months for 9/11 right?
You know when bush first heard about the planes he looked at the guy, chuckled, and then went back to what he was doing
You know they just happened to be holding an anti hijacking drill out in the ocean with EVERY jet in range of the towers and could've intercepted with time to spare with ease, and those jets were told to stand down and continue the drill anyways.
And everyone knows the pentagon was a lie, if they boldly lie about one thing, why would you believe everything else?

[Ranndom]

I never said I don't believe you, I was honestly curious as to why you think the US govt would murder thousands of its own people. Oil?

You obviously are educated on the subject, so you would be the person to talk to about this

Follow the money.
You know why a cure for cancer has never been released or publicly created? Because causing cancer is too profitable.

[Pokesan]

You clearly have shown here that you do not understand the meaning of Faith.

Yes, this is the English language, and words can be slippery, but we must choose our words wisely.


Anyways, I have more important things to do than chit-chat on some forum. Pokesan, your views are different from mine clearly, and that is fine, but you don't need to be such a dick all the time around here.

Have a good day/night sir.

2.
belief that is not based on proof:
He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

prove it or be eaten by a lion, believer

[Slathar]

Follow the money.
You know why a cure for cancer has never been released or publicly created? Because causing cancer is too profitable.

lol

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Follow the money.
You know why a cure for cancer has never been released or publicly created? Because causing cancer is too profitable.

lol
I know why you are laughing and I actually agree. However do you still laugh at fixed?
Follow the money.
You know why a cure for cancer has never been released or publicly created? Because continuing to treat cancer is too profitable.

[Big_Japan]

I know why you are laughing and I actually agree. However do you still laugh at fixed?

if zog had a way to release people from death by cancer why would he not just offer it and price it exorbitantly? The copyright system already exists and already murders people. People would sell everything they own for an actual cure.

The answer is simple: we are not ruled by aliens or scientific geniuses. We are ruled by petty schemers who study and master the behavior of men, and know very little of universal or scientific truth.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

We are ruled by petty schemers who study and master the behavior of men, and know very little of universal or scientific truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ1Mz7kGVf0

[Big_Japan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ1Mz7kGVf0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eraV5drw_EQ

[maerilith]

NO IDEA WHY WE CANT CURE CANCER BUT MAYBE WE CAN STOP CAUSING IT!!! ALL CAPS LOL

[Efwan]

You're funny. And most people believe in God... need I say more?

Like I said, I do not know for fact; I clearly stated that. I would like to be proven wrong, but the scales lean way more towards that we helped them take down our own buildings; killing thousands of our own people sadly.

And what happened to the pentagon? A plane hit that building they said? If you believe that, then of course you will believe that 9/11 was done by terrorists.

LOL

[Efwan]

Inside job meaning they not only allowed to happen, but helped planned it.
You know Larry Silverstein took ownership of the towers, and then dropped a HUGE insurance policy specifically for terrorism just months for 9/11 right?
You know when bush first heard about the planes he looked at the guy, chuckled, and then went back to what he was doing
You know they just happened to be holding an anti hijacking drill out in the ocean with EVERY jet in range of the towers and could've intercepted with time to spare with ease, and those jets were told to stand down and continue the drill anyways.
And everyone knows the pentagon was a lie, if they boldly lie about one thing, why would you believe everything else?

Lol jesus you're so naive. Keep trying to sell it hard though bro lmao

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

2.
belief that is not based on proof:
He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

prove it or be eaten by a lion, believer


You're obviously not following me one bit (as other(s) have already said), understanding the comparison between FAITH, or choose to disregard the evidence that has not only been proven by multiple scientists and leaders among the community, along with slapping physics in the face.

What we were told on that day by our government was not the truth. Maybe their were truths within it, but there is something else going on. We were 100% most certainly lied to by our own government on many accounts, including this "pancake effect" that they described which didn't happen in the first place; as shown by the beams = evidence. Could it be that we did it? Yes. Did we? I am not 100% certain. You can call this a "belief," but like I said, the English language and words are slippery.


If you did enough research yourself, and had an open mind in the least, you would at least QUESTION it; that is what I am doing, and am going a little further in saying that it looks more and more like an inside job. The evidence is overwhelming. Evidence; not faith.

[11bangbang]

You're obviously not following me one bit (as other(s) have already said), understanding the comparison between FAITH, or choose to disregard the evidence that has not only been proven by multiple scientists and leaders among the community, along with slapping physics in the face.

What we were told on that day by our government was not the truth. Maybe their were truths within it, but there is something else going on. We were 100% most certainly lied to by our own government on many accounts, including this "pancake effect" that they described which didn't happen in the first place; as shown by the beams = evidence. Could it be that we did it? Yes. Did we? I am not 100% certain. You can call this a "belief," but like I said, the English language and words are slippery.


If you did enough research yourself, and had an open mind in the least, you would at least QUESTION it; that is what I am doing, and am going a little further in saying that it looks more and more like an inside job. The evidence is overwhelming. Evidence; not faith.

some people are so blind to the truth they literally dont realize it when its presented to them, even if its explained to them they are still cluless. a guy i was in the army with was thoroughly convinced that edward snowden needed to rot in prison because he was a "traitor" to the US government. he completely disregarded the fact that he exposed govt corruption and how US citizens rights were being infringed on. what more can you do after presenting someone with factual evidence and they still refuse to accept it?

[Lorian]

If I was an American I'd also stock up on ammo and supplies. And convert any savings into gold. Not sure the meltdown is coming right this minute, but its sure in the planning for the ruling elite as their money printing (yes, the Federal Reserve printing press is run by banker families, not the government) is not working any more.

[Ranndom]

lol

You laugh, but just look how many holistic doctors actually working on real cures have been murdered or driven out of their country in just this year alone

[Thulack]

I'm glad i dont have any money that i have to worry about :)

[Ranndom]

NO IDEA WHY WE CANT CURE CANCER BUT MAYBE WE CAN STOP CAUSING IT!!! ALL CAPS LOL

Cancer feeds on acids, you cut acids from your diet, itll more than likely go away eventually.
But, when you get hospitalized what do they feed you? acids, acids, and more acids.

[Ranndom]

Lol jesus you're so naive. Keep trying to sell it hard though bro lmao

Im naive? You're completely ignorant. The truth is in your face, and you laugh and look the other way. Why? Because you're a coward. You would rather live in a false reality where the hand that feeds you isnt your master, but is your friend. And that aint how the world works. Grow up and start thinking for yourself for once in your life.

[Ranndom]

some people are so blind to the truth they literally dont realize it when its presented to them, even if its explained to them they are still cluless. a guy i was in the army with was thoroughly convinced that edward snowden needed to rot in prison because he was a "traitor" to the US government. he completely disregarded the fact that he exposed govt corruption and how US citizens rights were being infringed on. what more can you do after presenting someone with factual evidence and they still refuse to accept it?

Call them what they are, a coward. And walk away.

[Ranndom]

If I was an American I'd also stock up on ammo and supplies. And convert any savings into gold. Not sure the meltdown is coming right this minute, but its sure in the planning for the ruling elite as their money printing (yes, the Federal Reserve printing press is run by banker families, not the government) is not working any more.

Pretty sad how Americans don't know 2 shits about their own country or the rest of the world. But the rest of the world knows more about America and the rest of the world than these people could ever hope to. Makes me ashamed to be one at times just because of the constant ignorance.

[Shrubwise]

AMERICA

http://i.imgur.com/vE9FWhz.gif

Love it or you can GEET OUT

[Ranndom]

AMERICA

http://i.imgur.com/vE9FWhz.gif

Love it or you can GEET OUT

United States of America Inc.**
If you're gonna say the name of a corrupt and broken country living a lie, at least write its full name

[Shrubwise]

United States of America Inc.**
If you're gonna say the name of a corrupt and broken country living a lie, at least write its full name

Sorry, come again? I can't hear your bitching over all the freedom I'm experiencing right now.

http://i.imgur.com/CtS2is8.jpg

[Pokesan]

Believing in conspiracy theories can have the effect of letting an otherwise powerless person feel like they have control over the world they live in. That they can better navigate what troubles may come, because of their superior understanding of how the world really is.

I understand the appeal and have a bargain to propose:

I will not hire a lion to eat you so long as you stop promoting your delusions as truth. You can keep your beliefs - just stop bothering others with them. Do that and you shall live. Do it not, and every one of you will be eaten by a lion today.

[Rhambuk]

let it burn

[Ranndom]

Sorry, come again? I can't hear your bitching over all the freedom I'm experiencing right now.

http://i.imgur.com/CtS2is8.jpg

Ironic the "land of the free" having the worlds largest prison system.

[Ranndom]

Believing in conspiracy theories can have the effect of letting an otherwise powerless person feel like they have control over the world they live in. That they can better navigate what troubles may come, because of their superior understanding of how the world really is.

I understand the appeal and have a bargain to propose:

I will not hire a lion to eat you so long as you stop promoting your delusions as truth. You can keep your beliefs - just stop bothering others with them. Do that and you shall live. Do it not, and every one of you will be eaten by a lion today.

Ive said it once and ill say it again, You literally do make the perfect slave.

[myriverse]

Ive said it once and ill say it again, You literally do make the perfect slave.
The sad thing is that you don't realize the slave is you.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Believing in conspiracy theories can have the effect of letting an otherwise powerless person feel like they have control over the world they live in. That they can better navigate what troubles may come, because of their superior understanding of how the world really is.

I understand the appeal and have a bargain to propose:

I will not hire a lion to eat you so long as you stop promoting your delusions as truth. You can keep your beliefs - just stop bothering others with them. Do that and you shall live. Do it not, and every one of you will be eaten by a lion today.


Did I once say how I feel about said events was the truth? No. I merely presented to you data, tests, scientific research and the like disproving what we were told on that day were lies told to us by our government made by people MUCH smarter than you, or I.

What they explain is a (not "the") truth, but I've also said that; it doesn't tell us if we our government took our own buildings down and killed our own citizens. All it says is that they were not taken down by those airplanes that hit on that day. The Pentagon also was not hit by an airplane at all.


It's really funny that those beams were melted by the explosion and jet fuel (which we already know is a lie) yet, magically; one of the passports by one of the "terrorists" was "found" at the site intact. Right... beams were "melted" yet a little passport made of paper didn't light up.


Seriously, do some research. Listen to experts; not me. If you still can't comprehend it all and choose to disregard the evidence, physics, and people more educated than either of us that is fine; live in ignorance.

[Thulack]

Ive said it once and ill say it again, You literally do make the perfect slave.

I got what 60-80 years at best on this world? Fuck if i give a rats ass about anyone else or what they do. I live for myself and do what i please. Caring about things you are never going to control just leads to stress and worrying about meaningless things. Worry about yourself and how you will live your life.

[Ranndom]

The sad thing is that you don't realize the slave is you.

The sad thing is you think you have the ability to determine the thoughts and knowledge of others.
I know I'm rooted to taxes.
I know I'm stuck in a car loan.
Yes, i do realize i have a social security number, which is completely illegal.
Yes, i do realize what that inevitably means. So sit down and shut the hell up and don't even try to tell me what i do or do not know.

[Thulack]

The sad thing is you think you have the ability to determine the thoughts and knowledge of others.
I know I'm rooted to taxes.
I know I'm stuck in a car loan.
Yes, i do realize i have a social security number, which is completely illegal.
Yes, i do realize what that inevitably means. So sit down and shut the hell up and don't even try to tell me what i do or do not know.

Pretty sure you could change all of those things if you wanted to.

[Ranndom]

I got what 60-80 years at best on this world? Fuck if i give a rats ass about anyone else or what they do. I live for myself and do what i please. Caring about things you are never going to control just leads to stress and worrying about meaningless things. Worry about yourself and how you will live your life.

Yea, who cares if your family, all those kids, and their kids, live in agony. Who really gives a shit...Right?
With a selfish mind like that, you deserve to live, and die, alone.

[Thulack]

Yea, who cares if your family, all those kids, and their kids, live in agony. Who really gives a shit...Right?
With a selfish mind like that, you deserve to live, and die, alone.

I teach my children to fend for themselves and worry about what they can control. Bitching cause someone else has something or does something that you dont like isnt going to get you anywhere in life. I'll be happy to die alone. Means i didnt have to go through life worrying or caring about other people's problems. i'm almost there. Short of 2 kids and the mothers associated with them and 3 people i choose not to interact with most people. I dont even have a single family member that lives within an hour and half of me. /bliss

[Thulack]

Let me ask you this Ranndom. How much time have you spent thinking about this and how much have you accomplished to help change it?

[Ranndom]

Let me ask you this Ranndom. How much time have you spent thinking about this and how much have you accomplished to help change it?

60 seconds of my time has informed over 600 people in under 48 hours of what just may happen tomorrow or over the next coming days.
I cannot hold any accomplishments on a foundation made of a person's actions of which they choose to act, or not act upon, information given to them. I am not after accomplishments.
Im simply saying This is how it is, This is how it might be, Do what you will.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

On October first I'm going to make a thread dedicated to telling you how stupid you are.

[SanityRevoked]

America. Land of the free, Home of the brave.

Free to consume Food/Beverages/Medicines banned by other countries.
Brave enough to ignore reality.

Have you or a loved one taken XXXXXX's Super Miracle Pills... And are now bleeding from the eyes/ears, comatose, or already dead?
Dial 1-800-WESUEEM

U! S! A!... U! S! A!... U! S! A!

[Ranndom]

On October first I'm going to make a thread dedicated to telling you how stupid you are.

Let me remind you this post was directed towards the potential fallout coming from tomorrow. The 24th.
So perhaps you just reminded yourself how stupid you are. The fact that you cant even comprehend a calendar tells me you have no logical perception of the events at hand.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Let me remind you this post was directed towards the potential fallout coming from tomorrow. The 24th.
So perhaps you just reminded yourself how stupid you are. The fact that you cant even comprehend a calendar tells me you have no logical perception of the events at hand.
Who the fuck said I was talking to you?

[Pokesan]

Who the fuck said I was talking to you?

can you just call me stupid right now? I don't have the patience to wait until october

[Ranndom]

Who the fuck said I was talking to you?

By failing to quote your statement was by default directed towards the original post.
So, you were, Dumbass.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Pokesan knew I was talking about him.

@nope you gotta wait. You've earned the suspense.

[Pokesan]

Pokesan knew I was talking about him.

@nope you gotta wait. You've earned the suspense.

mods??? kagatob is plotting to cyberbully me

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://i.imgur.com/R0wZXC4.jpg

[Lojik]

Liquidate your financial assets...put your money where it will be safe...invest in fungi tunics.

[Efwan]

60 seconds of my time has informed over 600 people in under 48 hours of what just may happen tomorrow or over the next coming days.
I cannot hold any accomplishments on a foundation made of a person's actions of which they choose to act, or not act upon, information given to them. I am not after accomplishments.
Im simply saying This is how it is, This is how it might be, Do what you will.

Lol uh you've spent way longer than 60 seconds just on this thread alone and accomplished nothing to the 12 people reading it but make yourself look more like an idiot along with that Tarew Marr guy.


Oh and

Let me ask you this Ranndom. How much time have you spent thinking about this and how much have you accomplished to help change it?



AMERICA

http://i.imgur.com/vE9FWhz.gif

Love it or you can GEET OUT



QFT and reiteration

[Bosh]

Sorry, come again? I can't hear your bitching over all the freedom I'm experiencing right now.

http://i.imgur.com/CtS2is8.jpg

the bald eagle in this image was in captivity at the time it was taken

[Shift]

Sorry, come again? I can't hear your bitching over all the freedom I'm experiencing right now.

http://i.imgur.com/CtS2is8.jpg

6592

the people was slaves in Egypt and modern day slavery for U.s.a. nothing different we are all outsiders , bullies and power hungry we kill the indians for their soil.

and the spanish culture before us. Europeans we are and that is what we will be till the end. it's a illusion of freedom they just said that to make you work and not worry about nothing so you will be soft as a bunny so they can throw you in a Fema camp, kill you where you stand, put a RFID chip in you change your genetic dna code.

Read this can tell your still free

Go to Work, Get Married ,Have Some Kids, Pay your Taxes, Pay Your Bills, Watch Your Television , Follow Fashion, Act Normal ,Obey The Law And Repeat After Me

I AM FREE????.....

If you said you are you are out of your damn mind. you are brainwashed and conditioned they way they wanted to be, we use to stand up for what is right. now we listen to other man and say yeah that sounds about right i am go with what he is saying stop begin followers of a false hope.

Be a Leader and think with common sense for once in your life.

[Shift]

You're funny. And most people believe in God... need I say more?

Like I said, I do not know for fact; I clearly stated that. I would like to be proven wrong, but the scales lean way more towards that we helped them take down our own buildings; killing thousands of our own people sadly.

And what happened to the pentagon? A plane hit that building they said? If you believe that, then of course you will believe that 9/11 was done by terrorists.

9/11 was a drone plane CGFI Holograms, every real time video before the plane hit yu hear nothing of a plane you only heard the Thermite going off inside the building.

and for the Pentagon well that was a tank that shot a whole in it , a usa tank btw so yeah INSIDE JOB.

they did that so they can take that gold and put it in the kabballa square who knows whats in it.

they also did so they can put you in fear and terrorize your life on purpose make you run to them like they are your daddy , daddy please keep us save , in the bible is say's never trust no man there for all men,women .humans are liars.

God only asked us to Study to show thy self approved unto workman ship to God.

So he is telling you use your brain, and stop begin so fkin gullible , where the hell is your people's backbone?

Iraq war was over Oil and Heirion nothing more nothing less.

no wonder we the most hated country in the world. and they will set us up for World world 3. and they will aspect us to fight their war they started in the first place.

that is the first step to Agenda 21 Depopulation in a covert since.

Just listen to the last speak JFK said before he was assassinated. he was telling everyone we are slaves and begin controlled for someone elses purpose not for the american people. only for the The Elites. the 1% percenters.

[Shift]

9/11 was a drone plane CGFI Holograms, every real time video before the plane hit yu hear nothing of a plane you only heard the Thermite going off inside the building.

and for the Pentagon well that was a tank that shot a whole in it , a usa tank btw so yeah INSIDE JOB.

they did that so they can take that gold and put it in the kabballa square who knows whats in it.

they also did so they can put you in fear and terrorize your life on purpose make you run to them like they are your daddy , daddy please keep us save , in the bible is say's never trust no man there for all men,women .humans are liars.

God only asked us to Study to show thy self approved unto workman ship to God.

So he is telling you use your brain, and stop begin so fkin gullible , where the hell is your people's backbone?

Iraq war was over Oil and Heirion nothing more nothing less.

no wonder we the most hated country in the world. and they will set us up for World world 3. and they will aspect us to fight their war they started in the first place.

that is the first step to Agenda 21 Depopulation in a covert since.

Just listen to the last speak JFK said before he was assassinated. he was telling everyone we are slaves and begin controlled for someone elses purpose not for the american people. only for the The Elites. the 1% percenters.

It's Federal Reserve Notes not even real money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Note#Value

[Verenity]

This is all just decreases in stock index futures over intense fears of a China stock unload. Just look at the CBOE Volatility Index (VIX), considered the best gauge of fear in the market. It leaped above 50 for the first time since February 2009.

Anyone who was paying attention to the economic situation in China right now coupled with the sharp decline in oil prices thanks to the extra barrels hitting the market (via sanctions being removed from Iran) saw this coming. Investors have been preparing for it for weeks. Calm down, everything will be fine.

[Ranndom]

This morning the world markets went into free fall and basically bottomed out. Chinese and Indian primarily.
The Dow dropped 1082 points, The highest drop in at least 52 weeks.
As you can see Here
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/YMU5
and Here
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/DJIA
They appear to have stabilized at least for the time being.
The -1082 point drop was greater than 5% which is pretty crazy.
Now we get to watch how this ripples through the rest of the week
Just an FYI, Thats the largest single day decline in history.

[maskedmelon]

Let's see where it closes and where it goes the rest of the week. It is trading well above that opening dip now:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/dow-more-than-halves-losses-in-choppy-trade/ar-BBm2CdZ

[blondeattk]

if asia keeps sliding, the west could follow. tue is gonna be a gripping watch....

[Ranndom]

Let's see where it closes and where it goes the rest of the week. It is trading well above that opening dip now:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/dow-more-than-halves-losses-in-choppy-trade/ar-BBm2CdZ

Yeap. The same guys whove been saying wed run into a black monday situation very soon for the past ~3 weeks also said it would be very likely for the DOW to drop 800-1000 points daily.
Its also no secret that at least the US gov't has been training people for civil unrest at a worrisome increased and exhausting pace for about a year now.
Make no mistake, if the banks shut their doors and lock the atm's, there will be civil unrest. and as of right now, were well on our way to that path.
Its why in the original post i stated it would not be a bad idea to have cash on hand, at least a months worth in food and water

[Ranndom]

if asia keeps sliding, the west could follow. tue is gonna be a gripping watch....

Asia didnt slide, they fell off a cliff

[Ranndom]

Interestingly enough, Apple and Intel are the only 2 companies increasing in the Dow atm...Currently down 416 points

[blondeattk]

just spotted something funny!

http://etf.stock-encyclopedia.com/YANG.html

http://etf.stock-encyclopedia.com/YINN.html

dont think the market is in balance atmo!!

[Ranndom]

just spotted something funny!

http://etf.stock-encyclopedia.com/YANG.html

http://etf.stock-encyclopedia.com/YINN.html

dont think the market is in balance atmo!!

lol that is pretty funny...

[Efwan]

9/11 was a drone plane CGFI Holograms, every real time video before the plane hit yu hear nothing of a plane you only heard the Thermite going off inside the building.

and for the Pentagon well that was a tank that shot a whole in it , a usa tank btw so yeah INSIDE JOB.

they did that so they can take that gold and put it in the kabballa square who knows whats in it.

they also did so they can put you in fear and terrorize your life on purpose make you run to them like they are your daddy , daddy please keep us save , in the bible is say's never trust no man there for all men,women .humans are liars.

God only asked us to Study to show thy self approved unto workman ship to God.

So he is telling you use your brain, and stop begin so fkin gullible , where the hell is your people's backbone?

Iraq war was over Oil and Heirion nothing more nothing less.

no wonder we the most hated country in the world. and they will set us up for World world 3. and they will aspect us to fight their war they started in the first place.

that is the first step to Agenda 21 Depopulation in a covert since.

Just listen to the last speak JFK said before he was assassinated. he was telling everyone we are slaves and begin controlled for someone elses purpose not for the american people. only for the The Elites. the 1% percenters.


Lol you really believe all that idiotic propaganda don't you? P.s. I was right outside the pentagon when the PLANE crashed into it that day. No tank in sight, and trust me I would've heard it if there was, much less if it fired a shot


Also no heroine in Iraq and oil prices have only risen like 3$ since 9/11 so you're retarded

[Ranndom]

Lol you really believe all that idiotic propaganda don't you? P.s. I was right outside the pentagon when the PLANE crashed into it that day. No tank in sight, and trust me I would've heard it if there was, much less if it fired a shot


Also no heroine in Iraq and oil prices have only risen like 3$ since 9/11 so you're retarded

lol, you must be a pathological liar

[Tiewon Shu]

DOW is up 550% now, commence tin foil hat removal.

[Ranndom]

DOW is up 550% now, commence tin foil hat removal.

First off, 550% would probably break the entire system.
Secondly, as of yesterday at 4:30pm the end report was, and still is -588 points. which is 3.57%

[Big_Japan]

DOW is up 550% now, commence tin foil hat removal.

First off, 550% would probably break the entire system.
Secondly, as of yesterday at 4:30pm the end report was, and still is -588 points. which is 3.57%

Chinese markets still in freefall.

Western correction being held off until Sept. 1 so the socialist vampire lords running the show over here can pawn off the blame on an international foe using the "shemitah" antisemitic meme GCHQ and NSA have been amplifying for the last 8 months.

[Efwan]

lol, you must be a pathological liar

Why? Because you make up the 2% of nut jobs that believe this type of crap fed to them deep in the abyss of the interwebz?

[Ranndom]

Lol you really believe all that idiotic propaganda don't you? P.s. I was right outside the pentagon when the PLANE crashed into it that day. No tank in sight, and trust me I would've heard it if there was, much less if it fired a shot


Also no heroine in Iraq and oil prices have only risen like 3$ since 9/11 so you're retarded

You say you were right outside the pentagon. You say you witnessed a "PLANE" hit the pentagon. You then followed up that by continuing on grasping at any attempt to disprove the original comment. If you truly witnessed the plane hit the pentagon, You would've ended on that note. Instead, you backtracked and circled back around in an attempt to conceive a more convincing story. After that, you state two VERY dynamic variables and completely disregard the temporary spikes in the market post 9/11 for quite a while and then you tie it off with an insult.
Simply put, You're lying.
And right about now, you're contemplating what you're going to respond. You're insecure, you will aggressively try to mount the statement once again that you did witness the "PLANE" hit the pentagon. Following such, in a desperate and glorified attempt to discredit basic patterns of the human thought process, you'll insult me.
Lie's only work with two types of people. Those who know how to lie, and those who can see a lie.

[Slathar]

well at least you have outted yourself as insane

[Luminari]

You're funny. And most people believe in God... need I say more?

Like I said, I do not know for fact; I clearly stated that. I would like to be proven wrong, but the scales lean way more towards that we helped them take down our own buildings; killing thousands of our own people sadly.

And what happened to the pentagon? A plane hit that building they said? If you believe that, then of course you will believe that 9/11 was done by terrorists.

I'm confused. You figured out that 9/11 was an inside job but can't figure out that God exists? Seriously? You do realize that the people behind 9/11 are the ones pushing the whole evolution/atheistic agenda, right? You think there's no evidence for God? How do you explain DNA exactly? It's essentially a biological computer program consisting of literally billions of lines of code. Also, God doesn't live in the clouds looking down on you. He lives inside your body. Your soul is a fragment of the infinite spirit of God.

"Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?"(Corinthians 6:19)

[Luminari]

DOW is up 550% now, commence tin foil hat removal.

There's this thing called artificial inflation aka cooking the books. Believe me when I say that the entire world economy will collapse this September 100% guaranteed.

[Patriam1066]

Why do I keep hearing about the world economy collapsing in September.? Also, be specific. I want a date and time, otherwise you have the credibility of Miss Cleo.

[Luminari]

Why do I keep hearing about the world economy collapsing in September.? Also, be specific. I want a date and time, otherwise you have the credibility of Miss Cleo.

It's looking like between September 13th and the 23rd. Watch a video by the Dollar Vigilante called Shemitah Exposed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkELgi6EkNo

[Ranndom]

I'm confused. You figured out that 9/11 was an inside job but can't figure out that God exists? Seriously? You do realize that the people behind 9/11 are the ones pushing the whole evolution/atheistic agenda, right? You think there's no evidence for God? How do you explain DNA exactly? It's essentially a biological computer program consisting of literally billions of lines of code. Also, God doesn't live in the clouds looking down on you. He lives inside your body. Your soul is a fragment of the infinite spirit of God.

"Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?"(Corinthians 6:19)

One day i hope you realize what you're actually saying. You're not special. You're a hunk of flesh and bone who breathes air. Nothing more. We all are.

[joppykid]

DOW is up 550% now, commence tin foil hat removal.

Never count your chickens!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/25/us-markets-global-idUSKCN0QU01U20150825

[jarshale]

This is the moment. The lizard men are invading. See you in a few years guys I'm locking myself in the bunker.

[Ranndom]

This is the moment. The lizard men are invading. See you in a few years guys I'm locking myself in the bunker.

Just an FYI, the potential for a reptile based humanoid life form existing somewhere among a countless number of Planets is exceptionally high. And thats not even an opinion, thats probability and science.

[Pokesan]

Just an FYI, the potential for a reptile based humanoid life form existing somewhere among a countless number of Planets is exceptionally high. And thats not even an opinion, thats probability and science.

could you explain the probability and science part? i'm really stupid and need these things explained to me

thank you

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

could you explain the probability and science part? i'm really stupid and need these things explained to me

thank you

https://data.archive.moe/board/wsg/image/1394/26/1394264610953.gif

[Ranndom]

could you explain the probability and science part? i'm really stupid and need these things explained to me

thank you

Of course you're stupid. Ive told you this literally 2 times before. Glad you accept it.

[Pokesan]

Of course you're stupid. Ive told you this literally 2 times before. Glad you accept it.

hey man i asked nicely, why you gotta kick me when im down?

[iruinedyourday]

news flash: nothing is going to happen at all and that debt you are building by being a dredge on society aint going anywhere, sorry.

[jarshale]

Just an FYI, the potential for a reptile based humanoid life form existing somewhere among a countless number of Planets is exceptionally high. And thats not even an opinion, thats probability and science.

Is there a reason reptile + humanoid is so probable compared to the billions of possibilities for life that are out there?

[Ranndom]

Is there a reason reptile + humanoid is so probable compared to the billions of possibilities for life that are out there?

Because serpent human hybrids played a huge role in the past of this planet, whether it be physical or mythological we have no clue.

[Barkingturtle]

Given the infinite nature of the universe, lizard people are not only probable -- they are mandatory, and they are fucking everywhere. Especially Israel.

[Ranndom]

news flash: nothing is going to happen at all and that debt you are building by being a dredge on society aint going anywhere, sorry.

News flash, this global economic crisis has set multiple records in US history.
News Flash, well be seeing the effects of this for months to come, especially in the next ~2 weeks.
News flash, something big did happen, and youre just too stupid to realize it.

[Ranndom]

Why do I keep hearing about the world economy collapsing in September.? Also, be specific. I want a date and time, otherwise you have the credibility of Miss Cleo.

Well theyre having the pope visit new york during rush hour in mid-late september. Theyre going to put his stage in the middle of a 4 way intersection, guarded by multiple sniper teams. Anyone trying to get aerial coverage via drone will have it shot down by sniper teams. That alone is ominous :P

[Ranndom]

hey man i asked nicely, why you gotta kick me when im down?

Because your picture annoys the shit out of me. i dont know why.

[Swish]

shut up and buy more things, all of you

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://i.imgur.com/IUqnkRl.png

[Luminari]

One day i hope you realize what you're actually saying. You're not special. You're a hunk of flesh and bone who breathes air. Nothing more. We all are.

Pretty sad and pathetic that you actually believe this. You've bought into Satan's lie pretty hard.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

The devil is fake too bro...

[Luminari]

The devil is fake too bro...

Couldn't possibly be more wrong.

[Big_Japan]

http://i.imgur.com/IUqnkRl.png

Encyclopedia dramatica dot jew slash rules_of_the_internet

[Ranndom]

Pretty sad and pathetic that you actually believe this. You've bought into Satan's lie pretty hard.

If you ask me, Satan is the good guy. According to your own shitty ass book that changes every decade, Satan made man what it is today. God just wanted to keep humanity as shit for brains pets.

[Luminari]

If you ask me, Satan is the good guy. According to your own shitty ass book that changes every decade, Satan made man what it is today. God just wanted to keep humanity as shit for brains pets.

Pretty sad that you're this dumb.

[Efwan]

If you ask me, Satan is the good guy. According to your own shitty ass book that changes every decade, Satan made man what it is today. God just wanted to keep humanity as shit for brains pets.

Lololol the insanity continues

[Lorian]

Most events and people in the Bible is just as made up as Lord of The Rings (or borrowed from earlier religions), why argue about a piece of fiction that was created as a political tool almost 2000 years ago?

[Thulack]

Most events and people in the Bible is just as made up as Lord of The Rings (or borrowed from earlier religions), why argue about a piece of fiction that was created as a political tool almost 2000 years ago?

Well said. Something had to be done to put the "fear of god" into people so they would obey the rich.

[simp403]

Here's some advice: don't take financial advice from some neckbeard who thinks that a correction in the equity market means that the entire financial system is about to melt down. Stop reading 4chan and Reddit because people on those sites know fuckall about the economy.

If your 401k was predominantly composed of stocks then you should fire your financial planner. The key to investment is to DIVERSIFY.

Also, the 9/11 Truthers in this thread are morons. Que the "ad hominem" whining.

news flash: nothing is going to happen at all and that debt you are building by being a dredge on society aint going anywhere, sorry.

Amen. The kind of people I see spouting this collapse bullshit are the same people who only started paying attention after 2008. Pro-tip: This shit has happened many times in the past and it will continue to happen in the future. Anyone who was paying attention over the past year saw this correction from a mile away. I told my mom to pull as much money out of her high performing stocks back in January but unfortunately she blew off my advice.

News flash, this global economic crisis has set multiple records in US history.


And what records are those? Where did you get this info from, ZeroHedge? Practically every "global economic crisis" has set "multiple records". Go read a book called "How to Lie with Statistics" and you might realize how stupid you sound when you spout garbage like this.

[Ranndom]

Pretty sad that you're this dumb.
Thats a literal translation of the original story. Satan was an angel. He disobeyed god and gave man the power to be who they are today. God then banished him. I mean its right there in front of you. Satan is a good guy

[Ranndom]

Here's some advice: don't take financial advice from some neckbeard who thinks that a correction in the equity market means that the entire financial system is about to melt down. Stop reading 4chan and Reddit because people on those sites know fuckall about the economy.

If your 401k was predominantly composed of stocks then you should fire your financial planner. The key to investment is to DIVERSIFY.

Also, the 9/11 Truthers in this thread are morons. Que the "ad hominem" whining.



Amen. The kind of people I see spouting this collapse bullshit are the same people who only started paying attention after 2008. Pro-tip: This shit has happened many times in the past and it will continue to happen in the future. Anyone who was paying attention over the past year saw this correction from a mile away. I told my mom to pull as much money out of her high performing stocks back in January but unfortunately she blew off my advice.



And what records are those? Where did you get this info from, ZeroHedge? Practically every "global economic crisis" has set "multiple records". Go read a book called "How to Lie with Statistics" and you might realize how stupid you sound when you spout garbage like this.

Wtf is 4chan, reddit is for funny pictures, and wtf is zerohedge?

[simp403]

Wtf is 4chan, reddit is for funny pictures, and wtf is zerohedge?

4chan is a study on autism and ZeroHedge is a safe haven for people with paranoid schizophrenia.

[Ranndom]

4chan is a study on autism and ZeroHedge is a safe haven for people with paranoid schizophrenia.

lol i went to 4chan...Seems like its mostly just guys sharing porn to circle jerk too

[Luminari]

Thats a literal translation of the original story. Satan was an angel. He disobeyed god and gave man the power to be who they are today. God then banished him. I mean its right there in front of you. Satan is a good guy

Like I said. It's sad that you're this dumb. The people behind 9/11 are Satan worshipers and that event was a mass Satanic ritual. You're on the side of Satan that wants human sacrifices to appease him. See all of these famous people dying? Paul Walker, Britney Murphy, Robin Williams, Whitney Houston and on and on and on. These are all ritualistic Satanic murders and are blood sacrifices to Satan. It's Satanists that are behind literally everything you claim to be trying to expose and yet you think he's the good guy? Sorry but you're straight up brain fucking dead.

[Pokesan]

Like I said. It's sad that you're this dumb. The people behind 9/11 are Satan worshipers and that event was a mass Satanic ritual. You're on the side of Satan that wants human sacrifices to appease him. See all of these famous people dying? Paul Walker, Britney Murphy, Robin Williams, Whitney Houston and on and on and on. These are all ritualistic Satanic murders and are blood sacrifices to Satan. It's Satanists that are behind literally everything you claim to be trying to expose and yet you think he's the good guy? Sorry but you're straight up brain fucking dead.

same

[Ranndom]

Like I said. It's sad that you're this dumb. The people behind 9/11 are Satan worshipers and that event was a mass Satanic ritual. You're on the side of Satan that wants human sacrifices to appease him. See all of these famous people dying? Paul Walker, Britney Murphy, Robin Williams, Whitney Houston and on and on and on. These are all ritualistic Satanic murders and are blood sacrifices to Satan. It's Satanists that are behind literally everything you claim to be trying to expose and yet you think he's the good guy? Sorry but you're straight up brain fucking dead.

I actually dont believe in Satan, nor God, and i find the notion of either of them both depressing and hilarious.
You want to know what i believe? That the men behind these vile acts of the world are the same bloodline of men whove changed the bible countless times over the centuries.
These men control the bible. These men control you.

[Luminari]

I actually dont believe in Satan, nor God, and i find the notion of either of them both depressing and hilarious.
You want to know what i believe? That the men behind these vile acts of the world are the same bloodline of men whove changed the bible countless times over the centuries.
These men control the bible. These men control you.

And yet the Bible warns of these very men, weird. The men that also control the Bible and the Catholic church are also actually Satan worshipers and are behind the entire atheistic/evolutionary movement. They've actually successfully brain washed you and you're actually the one that is controlled.

[Ranndom]

And yet the Bible warns of these very men, weird. The men that also control the Bible and the Catholic church are also actually Satan worshipers and are behind the entire atheistic/evolutionary movement. They've actually successfully brain washed you and you're actually the one that is controlled.

Lol...You know that old saying Hide in plain sight?
Yea.

[Luminari]

Lol...You know that old saying Hide in plain sight?
Yea.

Sorry but no. The Bible clearly contradicts everything you're claiming but I wouldn't expect you to know that since you are brain washed and haven't even read nor studied the very thing you you dismiss. You are the literal walking definition of ignorance and that my friend is what's depressing. You're on a very long list of people that are going to have to learn the hard way.

[iruinedyourday]

add another name to ranndom's 'who to kill' list.

[iruinedyourday]

JK lol!

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-07/12/21/enhanced/webdr12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-18239-1436749268-12.gif

[Ranndom]

Sorry but no. The Bible clearly contradicts everything you're claiming but I wouldn't expect you to know that since you are brain washed and haven't even read nor studied the very thing you you dismiss. You are the literal walking definition of ignorance and that my friend is what's depressing. You're on a very long list of people that are going to have to learn the hard way.

Ok, then you tell me satans origins. Tell me he was not an angel. Tell me he did not disobey god to give knowledge to man.

[Ranndom]

JK lol!

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Im a lover not a fighter. Just dont try to fight me, fair warning haha

[Luminari]

Ok, then you tell me satans origins. Tell me he was not an angel. Tell me he did not disobey god to give knowledge to man.

Satan fell long before he tricked mankind into his lie. The knowledge he gave us was false and mankind was meant to be far more than what he has become.

"And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."

[Ranndom]

Satan fell long before he tricked mankind into his lie. The knowledge he gave us was false and mankind was meant to be far more than what he has become.

"And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."

Satan gave man free will.
Without Satan, like i said earlier, Man would be pets. According to your bible.
Heres some bullet points for you
•God takes away Adam and Eve's eternal life, thus commiting the first murder, and holds their descendants responsible and visiting Adam and Eve's punishment down on their children. In today's moral standards, the sins of the father die with the father.
•God destroys all life on Earth in a great flood, except for a drunk (Noah) and his family, for failing to worship him.
•God's tenth plague upon the Israelites was the unjustified murder of all firstborn sons in Egypt, which undoubtedly included little children.
•Before sending the plagues to Egypt, God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" so that he wouldn't let the Israelites go, so he could have an excuse to visit horrible plagues upon them, like boils, killing cattle and murdering all firstborn sons. (Exodus 4:21)
•God orders the Levites to kill their "every man and his neighnor" for worshipping another god. This cost 3000 lives. (Exodus 32:27)
•God sends a plague to the Israelites, apparently feeling that mass-butchery wasn't enough of a punishment. (Exodus 32:35)
•God kills Onan for refusing to impregnate his late brother's (whom God also slew) wife and instead "spilling his seed on the ground." (Genesis 38:8-10)
•God kills the entire populations of Soddom and Gammorah (again, including women, children and infants) for practicing certain sexual techniques.
•God gives all Philistines hemorrhoids in their pubic areas. (1 Samuel 5:9)
•God kills over 50,000 people for looking at an ark. (1 Samuel 6:19)
•God kills 70,000 people because King David decided to have a census. (1 Chronicles 21:7-14)
•God approves of slavery, and instructs owners to beat their slaves. (Proverbs 29:19)
•And, finally, God makes sure that if you are guilty of even the smallest transgression, you shall suffer endlessly for all eternity, following a dramatic homecoming for Jesus, who will be extremely pissed off at everyone for putting him to death, even though it was just the Romans and even though he knew what was going to happen beforehand, and he could have easily avoided it by using his power as God to perform a miracle and prove who he was. (See the entire book of Revelation)
~~~~~
•Satan, like Prometheus, gave knowledge to humanity by giving Eve the fruit from the forbidden tree. Because of Satan, humanity gained knowledge of good and evil, according to Genesis. Since we couldn't have possessed knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit, Adam and Eve couldn't have known that eating the fruit was evil, so it seems a little harsh to punish them as severely as God did. Satan gave humans true capacity for moral judgment, unlike God, who simply expected everyone to mindlessly obey his orders.
•There is no biblical record of Satan engaging in the murder of torture of any human being, unlike God, who is guilty (and proudly guilty) of commiting genocide.
•There is no biblical record of Satan ever ordering someone to kill someone else, unlike God, who has repeatedly demanded the deaths of those who commit even the smallest of offenses.
•Satan will not be holding a massively dramatic ceremony full of blood and death for the return of his son to Earth. God apparently will.

[Luminari]

Satan gave man free will.
Without Satan, like i said earlier, Man would be pets. According to your bible.

Other way around dude. Man is Satan's pet whereas God wanted us to be free. The world is so beyond fucked today because of what Satan has done to it.

[Ranndom]

```Satan, like Prometheus, gave knowledge to humanity by giving Eve the fruit from the forbidden tree. Because of Satan, humanity gained knowledge of good and evil, according to Genesis. Since we couldn't have possessed knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit, Adam and Eve couldn't have known that eating the fruit was evil, so it seems a little harsh to punish them as severely as God did. Satan gave humans true capacity for moral judgment, unlike God, who simply expected everyone to mindlessly obey his orders.
```

[Pokesan]

can we force these two to appear in the next bumfights episode? retarded satanist vs fanatical christian

[Ranndom]

can we force these two to appear in the next bumfights episode? retarded satanist vs fanatical christian

Im not religious. I dont believe in deity's outside of everquest :P
Im just a guy outside looking in.

[iruinedyourday]

Satan gave man free will.
Without Satan, like i said earlier, Man would be pets. According to your bible.
Heres some bullet points for you
•God takes away Adam and Eve's eternal life, thus commiting the first murder, and holds their descendants responsible and visiting Adam and Eve's punishment down on their children. In today's moral standards, the sins of the father die with the father.
•God destroys all life on Earth in a great flood, except for a drunk (Noah) and his family, for failing to worship him.
•God's tenth plague upon the Israelites was the unjustified murder of all firstborn sons in Egypt, which undoubtedly included little children.
•Before sending the plagues to Egypt, God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" so that he wouldn't let the Israelites go, so he could have an excuse to visit horrible plagues upon them, like boils, killing cattle and murdering all firstborn sons. (Exodus 4:21)
•God orders the Levites to kill their "every man and his neighnor" for worshipping another god. This cost 3000 lives. (Exodus 32:27)
•God sends a plague to the Israelites, apparently feeling that mass-butchery wasn't enough of a punishment. (Exodus 32:35)
•God kills Onan for refusing to impregnate his late brother's (whom God also slew) wife and instead "spilling his seed on the ground." (Genesis 38:8-10)
•God kills the entire populations of Soddom and Gammorah (again, including women, children and infants) for practicing certain sexual techniques.
•God gives all Philistines hemorrhoids in their pubic areas. (1 Samuel 5:9)
•God kills over 50,000 people for looking at an ark. (1 Samuel 6:19)
•God kills 70,000 people because King David decided to have a census. (1 Chronicles 21:7-14)
•God approves of slavery, and instructs owners to beat their slaves. (Proverbs 29:19)
•And, finally, God makes sure that if you are guilty of even the smallest transgression, you shall suffer endlessly for all eternity, following a dramatic homecoming for Jesus, who will be extremely pissed off at everyone for putting him to death, even though it was just the Romans and even though he knew what was going to happen beforehand, and he could have easily avoided it by using his power as God to perform a miracle and prove who he was. (See the entire book of Revelation)
~~~~~
•Satan, like Prometheus, gave knowledge to humanity by giving Eve the fruit from the forbidden tree. Because of Satan, humanity gained knowledge of good and evil, according to Genesis. Since we couldn't have possessed knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit, Adam and Eve couldn't have known that eating the fruit was evil, so it seems a little harsh to punish them as severely as God did. Satan gave humans true capacity for moral judgment, unlike God, who simply expected everyone to mindlessly obey his orders.
•There is no biblical record of Satan engaging in the murder of torture of any human being, unlike God, who is guilty (and proudly guilty) of commiting genocide.
•There is no biblical record of Satan ever ordering someone to kill someone else, unlike God, who has repeatedly demanded the deaths of those who commit even the smallest of offenses.
•Satan will not be holding a massively dramatic ceremony full of blood and death for the return of his son to Earth. God apparently will.

Whered you find a copy of the virginia gunmans manifesto?

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[Ranndom]

Whered you find a copy of the virginia gunmans manifesto?

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Virginia gunman was a victim of the race baiting that has been going on excessively recently. However, his internal race issues go back ~15 years if not more.

[Luminari]

Im not religious. I dont believe in deity's outside of everquest :P
Im just a guy outside looking in.

Then explain who made DNA and the planets and the stars. Things just magically create themselves? Amazing!

[Ranndom]

Then explain who made DNA and the planets and the stars. Things just magically create themselves? Amazing!

Stars are just burning balls of gas.
Things "magically" create themselves through natural processes.
You're attempts to explain what you cant explain through unexplainable means are hilarious

[Fame]

4chan is a study on autism

lost my shit LOL

[Luminari]

Stars are just burning balls of gas.
Things "magically" create themselves through natural processes.
You're attempts to explain what you cant explain through unexplainable means are hilarious

1) Stars are actually massive self sustaining nuclear reactors and can't have formed through random "natural" processes.
2) Nothing can just magically create them self through some ambiguous unintelligent process.
3) Learn the difference between your and you're.

Where does a natural process even originate from in the first place? Only an intelligent being can create something because first it has to be designed and then it has to be manifested into reality.

[Big_Japan]

nobody with autism uses 4chon, I can 100% assure you

[Koota]

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[jarshale]

Where does a natural process even originate from in the first place? Only an intelligent being can create something because first it has to be designed and then it has to be manifested into reality.

lol

[Luminari]

lol

lol what exactly?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

lol what exactly?

You and that baseless thing you said.

[Ranndom]

1) Stars are actually massive self sustaining nuclear reactors and can't have formed through random "natural" processes.
2) Nothing can just magically create them self through some ambiguous unintelligent process.
3) Learn the difference between your and you're.

Where does a natural process even originate from in the first place? Only an intelligent being can create something because first it has to be designed and then it has to be manifested into reality.

So, you're saying caterpillars don't wrap themselves up and turn themselves into butterflies? Obviously since nothing intelligent intervenes butterflies simply shouldn't exist.
And no, Stars are large balls of gas, mostly hydrogen and helium that are hold together by their own gravity. And you're right, they are basically nuclear reactors. But guess what? We have nuclear Hydrogen bombs. Hell, if i remember the numbers correctly, around 10 million degrees the center of the "star" fuses into a hydrogen nuclei which acts as an equal opposing force to its gravity and prevents it from collapsing entirely.
Stars are just as natural as the trees. They are the bringers and takers of life. its as simple as that

[maskedmelon]

1)

Where does a natural process even originate from in the first place?

This is a good question. It is a good question to which we have no answer. We can hypothesize, but without a method by which it's validity may be scrutinized, such a hypothesis can be conclusively neither affirmed nor denied. Assertion of either is therefore faith based. Yes, atheism is a faith since the absence of a divinity cannot be assured.

The marvel of our universe is all the more miraculous though if the product of chance than than of an omnipotent being. The latter rendering all unimpressive.

Still, I like to think there is something more, be it (a) superior being(s) or supernatural processes primarily out of grief for my own mortality ^^ won't know 'Tim I get there though and in the event that is the end, I hope it remains a ways off yet and choose to live each day to its fullest ^^

[Verenity]

This has easily been the most entertaining thread in a while. Thank you to everyone who participated

[Luminari]

You and that baseless thing you said.

How is it baseless exactly? Things can't just happen on their own for no reason. Do computer programs write themselves? Do paintings paint themselves? Can a car drive itself without being programmed by a person to do so? What we think of natural processes are actually designed and created that way by someone who had the knowledge to do so.

This is a good question. It is a good question to which we have no answer.

False. There is only one possible answer. They came from a being who has the capability of creating them. There is simply no other logical possible alternative.

So, you're saying caterpillars don't wrap themselves up and turn themselves into butterflies?

They only do because that's what their DNA is programmed to do.

Obviously since nothing intelligent intervenes butterflies simply shouldn't exist.

Um no. We can tell that something intelligent intervenes because butterflies do exist. The intelligence is embedded in their genetic code. Just like a computer program can perform tasks on it's own but only when designed to do so by a being with the intelligence to do so.

its as simple as that

If it's so simple then why can't man create a tree? Sorry but you're painfully delusional. The genetic code that makes up a tree or even the simplest of organisms is unimaginably complex.

"DNA is like a computer program only far more advanced than any ever created by man" - Bill Gates

DNA contains information and information can only come from an intelligent being. Therefor DNA can only have been created by a being with the intelligence to do so. Since whoever created DNA also created us, they are therefor God.

[maskedmelon]

Rationalizing faith only serves to undermine it. By definition faith is belief without proof. It is perfectly acceptable to know one thing and believe something contrary, but that is not always easily practiced.

You gave plenty of examples of man made things demonstrating creation necessitates an intelligent creator. How then do you explain things like erosion, wild fires and even spider webs? All three are created by unintelligent entities (wind, water, lightning, spiders).

Your argument that the existence of 'things' necessitates a creator, because man creates things is not logical because the validity of the association is indeterminate. Man is not the creator of all things, we do. Of know the extent of all creators in the universe and as I've demonstrated above we have examples of creation by non-intelligent things, so the assertion is illogical. It's fine to attribute those processes to a larger design by an intelligent creator, but the latter can be neither proven nor disproven.

[maskedmelon]

I should add that I am not trying to undermine your faith either, just pointing out that your approach does that by placing you in the uncomfortable position of arguing against reason. Your response to naysayers ought to just be "yeah, I know, but I believe this" and if you want to fill in a 'because' with how it has benefitted your life, you'd be much more apt to succeed.

[myriverse]

False. There is only one possible answer. They came from a being who has the capability of creating them. There is simply no other logical possible alternative.
That, in itself, is a natural process. So your entire premise is factually and logically wrong.

[jarshale]

So your whole argument is basically "look how fucking complex DNA is, God must have done it"?

[Ranndom]

How is it baseless exactly? Things can't just happen on their own for no reason. Do computer programs write themselves? Do paintings paint themselves? Can a car drive itself without being programmed by a person to do so? What we think of natural processes are actually designed and created that way by someone who had the knowledge to do so.



False. There is only one possible answer. They came from a being who has the capability of creating them. There is simply no other logical possible alternative.



They only do because that's what their DNA is programmed to do.



Um no. We can tell that something intelligent intervenes because butterflies do exist. The intelligence is embedded in their genetic code. Just like a computer program can perform tasks on it's own but only when designed to do so by a being with the intelligence to do so.



If it's so simple then why can't man create a tree? Sorry but you're painfully delusional. The genetic code that makes up a tree or even the simplest of organisms is unimaginably complex.

"DNA is like a computer program only far more advanced than any ever created by man" - Bill Gates

DNA contains information and information can only come from an intelligent being. Therefor DNA can only have been created by a being with the intelligence to do so. Since whoever created DNA also created us, they are therefor God.
Im just gonna break your brain here so youll shut up.
If god is an intelligent being, who created god? By your logic, surely god has to have a creator too, and that creators creator, and so forth which completely destroys the 1 god theory
If hes not an intelligent being, and he just supposedly happened to be, well that goes against everything your preaching. Which is called nature Btw.
Either way, You're Wrong. Theres no other options.

[maskedmelon]

Either way, You're Wrong. Theres no other options.

His logic is faulty, but that does not preclude the existence of providence.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

God did it
God did it
God did it
God did it
God did it
God did it

Ok, now out of the half billion gods out there, pick which ones were responsible for what.

[Luminari]

Rationalizing faith only serves to undermine it. By definition faith is belief without proof. It is perfectly acceptable to know one thing and believe something contrary, but that is not always easily practiced.

You gave plenty of examples of man made things demonstrating creation necessitates an intelligent creator. How then do you explain things like erosion, wild fires and even spider webs? All three are created by unintelligent entities (wind, water, lightning, spiders).

Your argument that the existence of 'things' necessitates a creator, because man creates things is not logical because the validity of the association is indeterminate. Man is not the creator of all things, we do. Of know the extent of all creators in the universe and as I've demonstrated above we have examples of creation by non-intelligent things, so the assertion is illogical. It's fine to attribute those processes to a larger design by an intelligent creator, but the latter can be neither proven nor disproven.

Sorry but no. There's a reason why science was invented by creationists and that the greatest scientists of all time were creationists and were believers in God. Sir Isaac Newton is considered to be the greatest scientist of all time. Science was originally devised by the wisest men as a means to better understand and explore the universe that God created. Listen to what he says.

“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.”
― Isaac Newton

“This most beautiful system of the sun, planets and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.”
― Isaac Newton, The Principia: Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy


“He who thinks half-heartedly will not believe in God; but he who really thinks has to believe in God.”
― Isaac Newton

“How came the bodies of animals to be contrived with so much art, and for what ends were their several parts?
Was the eye contrived without skill in Opticks, and the ear without knowledge of sounds?...and these things being rightly dispatch’d, does it not appear from phænomena that there is a Being incorporeal, living, intelligent...?”
― Isaac Newton, Opticks

“Blind metaphysical necessity, which is certainly the same always and every where, could produce no variety of things. All that diversity of natural things which we find suited to different times and places could arise from nothing but the ideas and will of a Being, necessarily existing.”
― Isaac Newton, The Principia: Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy

Here's a good quote from Nikola Tesla, also one of the greatest scientists and contributors to man kind of all time.

"The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being and if we focus our minds on this truth we become in tune with this great power" - Nikola Tesla


Wind, water, lightning and spiders were all created by an intelligent being. Everything that exists in the Universe including the Universe itself is a creation. As an example think of the World of Norrath and the EverQuest Universe. Every single detail in it was created by an intelligent being. There is nothing in the entire world of Norrath that wasn't specifically designed and created by an intelligent being. Likewise, the Universe we inhabit was designed and created by an intelligent being and one far more intelligent than we are.

[Luminari]

Im just gonna break your brain here so youll shut up.
If god is an intelligent being, who created god? By your logic, surely god has to have a creator too, and that creators creator, and so forth which completely destroys the 1 god theory
If hes not an intelligent being, and he just supposedly happened to be, well that goes against everything your preaching. Which is called nature Btw.
Either way, You're Wrong. Theres no other options.

False. God was the first thing to exist and has always existed. Logic requires that something had to have always existed otherwise nothing could exist since something cannot come from nothing. We know for a fact that the universe didn't always exist and therefor had a beginning. Anything which has a beginning by definition requires a creator. Since we know the universe has a beginning we can therefor logically conclude that it has a creator. God has always existed and will always exist.

[Luminari]

Ok, now out of the half billion gods out there, pick which ones were responsible for what.

You're confusing God with gods. There is only one God, the creator of all things and then there are gods which are actually the angels and the race of Nephilim some of them created when they mated with human woman. These are the gods of ancient mythology but aren't actually "myths" and are just as real as you and I and are still alive to this day and are in fact going to return very soon.

The Bible makes it clear that God did not create the universe by himself but rather he created the angels which are the ones who helped him create everything. Genesis clearly states this.

Then God said, "Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground."

This is why we have the ability to do things that no other living thing has the ability to do. We are the children of the creator of the universe and have been given domain over the entire Earth.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

The Bible makes it clear...
...that you are incapable of rational thought.

[Lamil]

Let's backtrack to whatever the fuck he said about satanists having the bible right now or whatever.. We are all brainwashed by who exactly?

[jarshale]

So you're saying that every god and magical being from myths are real, but are actually angel/human hybrids?

[Ranndom]

Sorry but no. There's a reason why science was invented by creationists and that the greatest scientists of all time were creationists and were believers in God. Sir Isaac Newton is considered to be the greatest scientist of all time. Science was originally devised by the wisest men as a means to better understand and explore the universe that God created. Listen to what he says.








Here's a good quote from Nikola Tesla, also one of the greatest scientists and contributors to man kind of all time.

"The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being and if we focus our minds on this truth we become in tune with this great power" - Nikola Tesla


Wind, water, lightning and spiders were all created by an intelligent being. Everything that exists in the Universe including the Universe itself is a creation. As an example think of the World of Norrath and the EverQuest Universe. Every single detail in it was created by an intelligent being. There is nothing in the entire world of Norrath that wasn't specifically designed and created by an intelligent being. Likewise, the Universe we inhabit was designed and created by an intelligent being and one far more intelligent than we are.
Nikola Tesla was also a sellout and preferred government bodies over his fellow man because of money.

[Big_Japan]

Of course there is a higher entity: it's the cosmic shit out of which you are made and the perfect system that allows complex systems, order, and intelligence to spring from that cosmic shit just by letting it bump into itself for a long enough time.

If you're stilling falling back on the ole "eyes are so complex a dude who knew about optics must literally have tinkered with them in a workshop" thing, you should probably be fed to the pigs before your hijacked reason is used to turn violence on your fellow man.

[Ranndom]

False. God was the first thing to exist and has always existed. Logic requires that something had to have always existed otherwise nothing could exist since something cannot come from nothing. We know for a fact that the universe didn't always exist and therefor had a beginning. Anything which has a beginning by definition requires a creator. Since we know the universe has a beginning we can therefor logically conclude that it has a creator. God has always existed and will always exist.

Ok...so if god has a beginning, who is his creator?

[Big_Japan]

False. There is only one possible answer. They came from a being who has the capability of creating them. There is simply no other logical possible alternative.

also if this is the strongest argument u got, isn't it equally likely we're in some kind of sci fi prison invented by aliens or future humans? maybe we're from a bright white future of immortal "nephilim" with nanomachines who are very obviously directly in touch with the God of this universe, but we got caught raping children in that life and the punishment is eternity of reincarnation in the matrix, being owned by jews and dying at 60 of obesity.

Or maybe we're all part of some supercomputer & when we sleep each night someone is actually timesharing our brains to live out dreams -- last night I had a good 1 where a bunch of dudes with lacquered armor and swords were chasing me through a city, then through a restaurant, and we were throwing knives past the patrons at each other as I tried to escape. They kept shouting about some pretender (I think my loyalties were misaligned). There was even a naked broad talking to me before the chase started. It was a pretty good dream, strong narrative thread, tits and action, and I could see some tyrant enslaving me forever to sell the rights to role-play it. After all, I've never been to the 1600s, and something as complex as a realistic 1600s dream (especially considering that in this context, this universe is fantasy and the 1600s never happened like that in the actual world) must require an intelligent creator just like Norrath.

[Luminari]

Ok...so if god has a beginning, who is his creator?

God doesn't have a beginning. Not sure how I didn't make that clear. He's eternal. No beginning. No ending.

So you're saying that every god and magical being from myths are real, but are actually angel/human hybrids?

Essentially yes. Here's some quotes from Genesis 6.

When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

The heroes of old, men of renown. Ring a bell? Men like Hercules, Achilles, Perseus etc are the only ones that fit this description. Literally every single civilization on the entire planet talks about these beings and many of them share extreme similarities.

Or maybe we're all part of some supercomputer

After all, I've never been to the 1600s, and something as complex as a realistic 1600s dream (especially considering that in this context, this universe is fantasy and the 1600s never happened like that in the actual world) must require an intelligent creator just like Norrath.

Your brain IS the super computer that creates all of those possibilities and realities. Our brains are so ridiculously complex that if you think random unintelligent "natural" processes managed to create it then you are simply a moron and don't actually bother using your brain.

...that you are incapable of rational thought.

Considering all of the greatest minds in human history agree with me, I'd say it's more likely that it's you that's incapable. You're the poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[Big_Japan]

The heroes of old, men of renown. Ring a bell? Men like Hercules, Achilles, Perseus etc are the only ones that fit this description. Literally every single civilization on the entire planet talks about these beings and many of them share extreme similarities.


superhumans are still on earth bro, i read it in a marvel comic

[Ranndom]

God doesn't have a beginning. Not sure how I didn't make that clear. He's eternal. No beginning. No ending.



Essentially yes. Here's some quotes from Genesis 6.





The heroes of old, men of renown. Ring a bell? Men like Hercules, Achilles, Perseus etc are the only ones that fit this description. Literally every single civilization on the entire planet talks about these beings and many of them share extreme similarities.





Your brain IS the super computer that creates all of those possibilities and realities. Our brains are so ridiculously complex that if you think random unintelligent "natural" processes managed to create it then you are simply a moron and don't actually bother using your brain.



Considering all of the greatest minds in human history agree with me, I'd say it's more likely that it's you that's incapable. You're the poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Eternal is never ending, not never beginning.

[Luminari]

Eternal is never ending, not never beginning.

Definition : Eternal

lasting or existing forever; without end or beginning.

without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing

[Ranndom]

Definition : Eternal

lasting or existing forever; without end or beginning.

without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing

Ok, then by the very definition god cant exist.

[Luminari]

Ok, then by the very definition god cant exist.

You make no sense and provide absolutely zero support to any of your statements. Anyways, you're obviously a troll. Done wasting my time.

[Caladbolg]

I'm not a troll.

Faith: strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

Rather than proof; or evidence.

Like I said, I do not know for 100% sure whether or not 9/11 was an inside job or not. I would like to be proven wrong because like I said before 1) I would learn something, and 2) I simply do not like the fact that US killed their own citizens for war, money, and oil.

Believing in God... I would consider it IF there were evidence. There is none.

9/11... research it. I'm sure you've heard about the thermite, buildings falling at free-fall speeds, the fucking Pentagon, the beams being split as if they were blown up by demolition, the tests that were involved that were collected from the dust from said buildings, jet engine fuel that CANNOT reach temperatures to melt those beams, thermite pools that can only be created given a certain temperature (which the planes cannot on explosion), the videos recorded by people that day, the LACK of videos showing the pentagon being hit by a plane (no plane in sight, only 1 video of an explosion; no plane). This here doesn't even scratch the surface.

Yea, I'll believe that 9/11 was an inside job well before I'll believe in God. At least for 9/11, I can sit back and ponder it and say "maybe."

You forgot to mention tower 7 quietly falling in on itself demolition style while everyone was looking up at the other two. The purchase of the towers by Silverstein just before it happened, the enormous insurance policy he took out on it just before it happened, and the sketchy elevator maintenance that happened about 6 months prior.

[Ranndom]

You make no sense and provide absolutely zero support to any of your statements. Anyways, you're obviously a troll. Done wasting my time.

I literally just used exactly what you said to disprove what you believe.
Told you i was gonna break your brain.

[Luminari]

I literally just used exactly what you said to disprove what you believe.
Told you i was gonna break your brain.

You didn't disprove anything. Your brain is the one that is broken. Typical example of someone with Dunning-Kruger. God has no beginning and therefor was not created. God has ALWAYS existed. The universe however has a beginning and therefor had to be created. So if God can't exist then neither can the universe because then nothing would exist to have created it.

[Opalmoon]

Zeitgeist the movie ....I believe op ....but. op there is proof of God ...I have seen.....so yes do have faith ...believe without seeing ...Our Govt is corrupt ..that's a fact ...Disclosure won't be long for non believers ...and for those of us with faith ..well I guess when we die our mortal death we will find out ..won't we :) Live life in love and light .

[Ranndom]

You didn't disprove anything. Your brain is the one that is broken. Typical example of someone with Dunning-Kruger. God has no beginning and therefor was not created. God has ALWAYS existed. The universe however has a beginning and therefor had to be created. So if God can't exist then neither can the universe because then nothing would exist to have created it.

The only thing in existence that can be eternal is Nothing.
Nothing is the only thing with no beginning or no end.
Nothing is God. God is Nothing.

[Tiewon Shu]

What does an "inside job" mean? Are you implying the US govt blew up the twin towers and the pentagon?

That's exactly what happened.


Why would they do that? Genuine question.

Money.

[Luminari]

The only thing in existence that can be eternal is Nothing.
Nothing is the only thing with no beginning or no end.
Nothing is God. God is Nothing.

Something cannot come from nothing though so you make literally no sense whatsoever.

[Ranndom]

Something cannot come from nothing though so you make literally no sense whatsoever.

So if something can not come from nothing than how can god exist?

[Swish]

Are we now on PhilosophyQuest ?

[Ranndom]

Are we now on PhilosophyQuest ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jHj66MYqBM
Watch Philosophy. Limpent Philosophy.

[Luminari]

So if something can not come from nothing than how can god exist?

Because God always existed. You think only in finite terms. You had a beginning and you came from your mother and father. God did not have a beginning and therefor was not created. He has simply always existed and always will exist.

[Ranndom]

Because God always existed. You think only in finite terms. You had a beginning and you came from your mother and father. God did not have a beginning and therefor was not created. He has simply always existed and always will exist.

How do you not understand that for anything to exist it has to have a beginning. Its like talking reason to a fucking cat

[Luminari]

How do you not understand that for anything to exist it has to have a beginning. Its like talking reason to a fucking cat

How do you not understand that logic requires something to have always existed since something cannot come from nothing. It's like talking reason to a fucking rock.

[Ranndom]

How do you not understand that logic requires something to have always existed since something cannot come from nothing. It's like talking reason to a fucking rock.

You know what has always existed? Nothing. Nothing is Everything. Everything is Nothing.

[Pokesan]

ur stupid

no ur stupid

[Ranndom]

ur stupid

no ur stupid

Pretty much. Lol

[Luminari]

You know what has always existed? Nothing. Nothing is Everything. Everything is Nothing.

No. Nothing is nothing. Something cannot come from nothing because it's nothing you complete retard. Seriously can't tell if you're trolling or are actually this stupid.

[maskedmelon]

So many baseless truth statements T.T it appears the two of you agree on something, even if it is only the nature of nothing:

Nothing is eternal - why is that?
Something cannot come from nothing - why not?

I kind of like this topic ^^

[Luminari]

Something cannot come from nothing - why not?

If you seriously need to ask why something cannot come from nothing, you're simply retarded.

[maskedmelon]

If you seriously need to ask why something cannot come from nothing, you're simply retarded.

Why is that? Because you don't have an answer? Don't assume ^^

[Luminari]

Why is that? Because you don't have an answer? Don't assume ^^

Because NOTHING is NOTHING idiot. How can something come from something that does not exist? How are you this dumb?

[maskedmelon]

Because NOTHING is NOTHING idiot.

Stating the obvious does not address my question. What do you know of the nature of nothing? We can burrow as deeply down this rabbit hole as you'd like to go.

How can something come from something that does not exist?

Why can't it? I don't presume to know. You assert it is not possible though, so I ask why? How do you know?

How are you this dumb?

:/

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

No. Nothing is nothing. Something cannot come from nothing because it's nothing you complete retard. Seriously can't tell if you're trolling or are actually this stupid.

If you seriously need to ask why something cannot come from nothing, you're simply retarded.

Because NOTHING is NOTHING idiot. How can something come from something that does not exist? How are you this dumb?

bible boi so triggered in this thread. :p

[Whirled]

Air Supply

[Luminari]

Stating the obvious does not address my question. What do you know of the nature of nothing? We can burrow as deeply down this rabbit hole as you'd like to go.

There is no rabbit hole to go down you moron. The nature of nothing is nothing. What the fuck do you not get exactly?

Why can't it? I don't presume to know. You assert it is not possible though, so I ask why? How do you know?

Because something cannot come from something that does not exist. You can't seriously be this fucking stupid.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

You are a brain in a jar. Life is just a simulation. Prove me wrong.

[Samoht]

God has no beginning and therefor was not created. God has ALWAYS existed. The universe however has a beginning and therefor had to be created. So if God can't exist then neither can the universe because then nothing would exist to have created it.

Oh my god, where did you guys find this idiot.

Done wasting my time.

Why couldn't you have just made this simpler for everybody involved and followed through with this threat?

[Luminari]

Oh my god, where did you guys find this idiot.



Why couldn't you have just made this simpler for everybody involved and followed through with this threat?

Ya, I'm the idiot says the retard who gives zero explanation as to why and can't refute a single thing I said. Kill yourself you dumb fuck.

[Big_Japan]

what if we're just in a rainbow universe created by the CERN from an alternate dimension, and they have proof positive that the god of their universe is malevolent & have to sacrifice children to be raped or else acid blood rains from the sky and tentacles come out of portals and rape u/render you immortal/pull you into eternal rapeverse while u sleep. That would poke some holes in ur bible would it not?

[Ranndom]

what if we're just in a rainbow universe created by the CERN from an alternate dimension, and they have proof positive that the god of their universe is malevolent & have to sacrifice children to be raped or else acid blood rains from the sky and tentacles come out of portals and rape u/render you immortal/pull you into eternal rapeverse while u sleep. That would poke some holes in ur bible would it not?

Nope. They're just that insane. We'd just start hearing "Oh well god isnt perfect"

[Samoht]

Ya, I'm the idiot says the retard who gives zero explanation as to why and can't refute a single thing I said. Kill yourself you dumb fuck.

It's not like you yourself have posted anything interesting or groundbreaking. Much less anything that can be backed up with evidence or proof.

Since you seem to keep drumming on the incorrect assumption that the universe came from nothing, I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you skipped class in the third grade the day they explained the Big Bang Theory.

The universe as you know it might have not existed before, but the matter did. Just not in the same forms and/or states that it's in today. That's hardly something from nothing. More like something from something else.

And that's something that does not require an invisible magician in the sky to create.

[Ranndom]

The universe as you know it might have not existed before, but the matter did. Just not in the same forms and/or states that it's in today. That's hardly something from nothing. More like something from something else.

And that's something that does not require an invisible magician in the sky to create.

Pretty much, were just beginning to get somewhat of a minor grasp on things like dark matter

[Luminari]

Since you seem to keep drumming on the incorrect assumption that the universe came from nothing

Uh retard. I never said the universe came from nothing so what the fuck are you talking about? I said it can't come from nothing.

The universe as you know it might have not existed before, but the matter did. Just not in the same forms and/or states that it's in today. That's hardly something from nothing. More like something from something else.

Sorry idiot but the laws of thermodynamics make this an impossibility. The 1st law makes it clear that there is a finite amount of energy in the universe and the 2nd law makes it clear that energy is in constant motion towards maximum entropy. Think of it like a giant grandfather clock. Once it winds down and runs out of energy it stops working. Matter did not always exist and could not have according to the 1st and 2nd laws. This is known as Clausius' paradox.

And that's something that does not require an invisible magician in the sky to create.

God isn't an invisible magician in the sky. Regardless, ultra complex things can't just magically create themselves. Nothing can create itself. Cars don't build themselves. Paintings don't paint themselves. Books don't write themselves. Yet your dumb ass believes that things infinitely more complex than any of these things some how magically formed into existence on their own. Amazing!

“Blind metaphysical necessity, which is certainly the same always and every where, could produce no variety of things. All that diversity of natural things which we find suited to different times and places could arise from nothing but the ideas and will of a Being, necessarily existing.”
― Isaac Newton, The Principia: Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy

[Ranndom]

Uh retard. I never said the universe came from nothing so what the fuck are you talking about? I said it can't come from nothing.



Sorry idiot but the laws of thermodynamics make this an impossibility. The 1st law makes it clear that there is a finite amount of energy in the universe and the 2nd law makes it clear that energy is in constant motion towards maximum entropy. Think of it like a giant grandfather clock. Once it winds down and runs out of energy it stops working. Matter did not always exist and could not have according to the 1st and 2nd laws. This is known as Clausius' paradox.

Devout Dumbassery at its finest.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Bible boi still in maximum rustle mode.

[Ranndom]

Bible boi still in maximum rustle mode.

Hes very persistent isn't he

[maskedmelon]

I'm sorry Lums, I did not mean to ruffle or befuddle you. Just trying to point out that the logic you espouse has some holes in it :/

It has been an engaging discussion.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

You didn't put "logic" in quotes.

[Ranndom]

I'm sorry Lums, I did not mean to ruffle or befuddle you. Just trying to point out that the logic you espouse has some holes in it :/

It has been an engaging discussion.
Its not a discussion for Lum, hes in full blown panic rage mode trying to rationalize his beliefs heh

[Luminari]

I'm sorry Lums, I did not mean to ruffle or befuddle you. Just trying to point out that the logic you espouse has some holes in it :/

It has been an engaging discussion.

There are no holes in my logic at all. Again, look up the Dunning-Kruger effect because you have it. Most unintelligent people don't realize that they are unintelligent and what they think is logic, actually isn't.

[Ranndom]

There are no holes in my logic at all. Again, look up the Dunning-Kruger effect because you have it. Most unintelligent people don't realize that they are unintelligent and what they think is logic, actually isn't.

You spend too much time on jesus forums dude. Lay off the internet.

[iruinedyourday]

You spend too much time on jesus forums dude. Lay off the internet.

http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/Mfw+i+work+in+a+sperm+bank+_2f84e09055d281cf3fe058 3369a5a4ec.jpg

[Big_Japan]

argument from authority 999 times in one thread
equating enlightenment deism with "sky daddy must have created the earth in exactly this way with a magical wand of specifications noted in this old document"

There are no holes in my logic at all.

[maskedmelon]

There are no holes in my logic at all. Again, look up the Dunning-Kruger effect because you have it. Most unintelligent people don't realize that they are unintelligent and what they think is logic, actually isn't.

Thank you Lums. Do we both suffer this affliction, or is it just me?

[Samoht]

Sorry idiot but the laws of thermodynamics make this an impossibility. The 1st law makes it clear that there is a finite amount of energy in the universe and the 2nd law makes it clear that energy is in constant motion towards maximum entropy. Think of it like a giant grandfather clock. Once it winds down and runs out of energy it stops working. Matter did not always exist and could not have according to the 1st and 2nd laws. This is known as Clausius' paradox.

God isn't an invisible magician in the sky. Regardless, ultra complex things can't just magically create themselves. Nothing can create itself. Cars don't build themselves. Paintings don't paint themselves. Books don't write themselves. Yet your dumb ass believes that things infinitely more complex than any of these things some how magically formed into existence on their own. Amazing!

You probably shouldn't bring up concepts you don't uderstand. You clearly don't know what you're talking about, do you.

[phacemeltar]

wipe it clean 2015!

on another note, why do i always get my news from these forums? am i really that disconnected from reality? who am i? is any of this real?


EDIT: its not fair to say that the government planned 9/11. sure i have heard convincing arguments that it was a conspiracy, but regardless, i think its better to say that INDIVIDUALS WORKING FOR the government planned 9/11. it really bothers me when people talk about the government like its some sea monster or boogeyman, when in reality its just some of the people standing in line at the grocery store with everyone else. what percent of US citizens get paychecks signed by a Federal official?

[Luminari]

You probably shouldn't bring up concepts you don't uderstand. You clearly don't know what you're talking about, do you.

I understand them perfectly. So did Sir Isaac Newton. He's considered one of the greatest thinkers, scientists, mathematicians in human history. Who's more likely to be correct, him or some random dumb fuck on the internet like yourself?

[Luminari]

Thank you Lums. Do we both suffer this affliction, or is it just me?

Just you and everyone else disagreeing with me. The fact that you need an explanation of why something can't come from nothing proves that you really are extremely dumb. Here, maybe Aria Stark can help you better understand your ignorance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZpQYeeAJLQ

[maskedmelon]

I understand them perfectly.

Unless it is possible to understand something more than perfectly, then you have failed to underestimate yourself and likely have the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Welcome to the team!

[Ranndom]

wipe it clean 2015!

on another note, why do i always get my news from these forums? am i really that disconnected from reality? who am i? is any of this real?


EDIT: its not fair to say that the government planned 9/11. sure i have heard convincing arguments that it was a conspiracy, but regardless, i think its better to say that INDIVIDUALS WORKING FOR the government planned 9/11. it really bothers me when people talk about the government like its some sea monster or boogeyman, when in reality its just some of the people standing in line at the grocery store with everyone else. what percent of US citizens get paychecks signed by a Federal official?

The US government along with USA Inc. are a corporation. Its perfectly fair

[Samoht]

I understand them perfectly. So did Sir Isaac Newton. He's considered one of the greatest thinkers, scientists, mathematicians in human history.

Something else you have in common with newton: you'll probably also die a virgin just like he did.

[Ranndom]

Something else you have in common with newton: you'll probably also die a virgin just like he did.

"Oh No He Didn't" /Fingerwave

[Luminari]

Something else you have in common with newton: you'll probably also die a virgin just like he did.

At least I won't die a fucking moron like you.

[Samoht]

At least I won't die a fucking moron like you.

I don't think you've posted anything to prove otherwise thus far, LOL.

You still think the bible is real, right? You still believe in the invisible magician in the sky? Case closed.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

You overlooked the fact that he confirmed his beta-virgin status.

[blondeattk]

You still think the bible is real, right? You still believe in the invisible magician in the sky? Case closed.

thats not an arguement, thats admitting your scared.

back to financial stuff....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki6XMesrth0

whats going on behind the scenes.

[Samoht]

thats not an arguement, thats admitting your scared.

It reinforces that he's an absolute moron to anybody with half a brain. Why would I be scared of a moron with less than half a brain?

[Big_Japan]

all wars are nigroids' wars

[Luminari]

It reinforces that he's an absolute moron to anybody with half a brain. Why would I be scared of a moron with less than half a brain?

Then why do all of the greatest scientists in history all believe in the Bible you dumb fucking waste of life? You literally don't even have 1/10th the brain power of people like Newton or Tesla or Pasteur. It's cool though because I already know for a fact that you're going to be learning the hardest fucking way imaginable just how wrong you are.

[Pokesan]

Then why do all of the greatest scientists in history all believe in the Bible you dumb fucking waste of life? You literally don't even have 1/10th the brain power of people like Newton or Tesla or Pasteur. It's cool though because I already know for a fact that you're going to be learning the hardest fucking way imaginable just how wrong you are.

You're not supposed to celebrate it. You're supposed to lament it. Jerk.

[Samoht]

Then why do all of the greatest scientists in history all believe in the Bible you dumb fucking waste of life? You literally don't even have 1/10th the brain power of people like Newton or Tesla or Pasteur. It's cool though because I already know for a fact that you're going to be learning the hardest fucking way imaginable just how wrong you are.

If by greatest, you mean long dead and no longer relevant, sure. Ask anybody in Newtons field today (Stephen Hawking comes to mind), and they'll say that they have respect for his pioneering work, but then they can prove almost any of it wrong. And then they'll tell you that there is no God. Amazing how far we've come in the last 400 years.

[Ranndom]

Then why do all of the greatest scientists in history all believe in the Bible you dumb fucking waste of life? You literally don't even have 1/10th the brain power of people like Newton or Tesla or Pasteur. It's cool though because I already know for a fact that you're going to be learning the hardest fucking way imaginable just how wrong you are.

Because that was what they were brainwashed into believing from birth. Probably very much like yourself. Don't forget, even the mentally retarded who shared the same street as those scientists also believed.

[Luminari]

If by greatest, you mean long dead and no longer relevant, sure. Ask anybody in Newtons field today (Stephen Hawking comes to mind), and they'll say that they have respect for his pioneering work, but then they can prove almost any of it wrong. And then they'll tell you that there is no God. Amazing how far we've come in the last 400 years.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL prove Newton's work wrong? Those dumb fucks wouldn't even have a leg to stand on if not for Newton you stupid fucking piece of shit. Holy shit you're fucking retarded. Also, Hawking hasn't done a single thing for humanity whereas real scientists like Newton, Tesla and Pasteur have improved the human race more than anyone in human history. Seriously, please do society a favor and fucking kill yourself because you're a waste of oxygen.

[Shift]

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL prove Newton's work wrong? Those dumb fucks wouldn't even have a leg to stand on if not for Newton you stupid fucking piece of shit. Holy shit you're fucking retarded. Also, Hawking hasn't done a single thing for humanity whereas real scientists like Newton, Tesla and Pasteur have improved the human race more than anyone in human history. Seriously, please do society a favor and fucking kill yourself because you're a waste of oxygen.

----Matrix Red or Blue Pill Scene----

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ1_IbFFbzA

[Ranndom]

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL prove Newton's work wrong? Those dumb fucks wouldn't even have a leg to stand on if not for Newton you stupid fucking piece of shit. Holy shit you're fucking retarded. Also, Hawking hasn't done a single thing for humanity whereas real scientists like Newton, Tesla and Pasteur have improved the human race more than anyone in human history. Seriously, please do society a favor and fucking kill yourself because you're a waste of oxygen.

Tesla halted the human race, he didnt advance it. In the early 20's he invented an electric car that could go 80mph. You know who he sold it and every other thing he created too? the government.

[Efwan]

Why are you guys still arguing with these 2 conspiracy idiots?

[Ranndom]

Why are you guys still arguing with these 2 conspiracy idiots?

Hypocrisy at its finest.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Tesla halted the human race, he didnt advance it. In the early 20's he invented an electric car that could go 80mph. You know who he sold it and every other thing he created too? the government.

That was Edison's fault.

[Swish]

Tesla halted the human race, he didnt advance it. In the early 20's he invented an electric car that could go 80mph. You know who he sold it and every other thing he created too? the government.

Probably got to keep his life in return.

[Samoht]

You do realize Tesla was an atheist, right? Are you trying to show how little you know about this subject?

[Luminari]

You do realize Tesla was an atheist, right? Are you trying to show how little you know about this subject?

“The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.”


― Nikola Tesla

You sure about that you dumb fuck?

[Luminari]

Tesla halted the human race, he didnt advance it. In the early 20's he invented an electric car that could go 80mph. You know who he sold it and every other thing he created too? the government.

No you fucking waste of life. The FBI raided his apartment and stole everything he did.

[Samoht]

You sure about that you dumb fuck?

Yes.

I'm a fucking retard.


-Luminari

Too true.

[Luminari]

I'm a fucking waste of life

QFT