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Samoht
08-29-2015, 08:38 PM
I love it when you prove religious nut jobs so wrong that they have nothing to fall back on but petty insults. Ignorance breeds such hostility.

Rararboker
08-29-2015, 08:41 PM
You seem as mad as him. Projecting?

Luminari
08-29-2015, 09:06 PM
I love it when you prove religious nut jobs so wrong that they have nothing to fall back on but petty insults. Ignorance breeds such hostility.

You said Tesla was an atheist and I provided a direct quote from him that proves he wasn't you stupid fucking piece of shit. Please, die in a car crash you waste of fucking life.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-29-2015, 09:08 PM
You said Tesla was an atheist and I provided a direct quote from him that proves he wasn't you stupid fucking piece of shit. Please, die in a car crash you waste of fucking life.

Citation needed mother fucker.

Samoht
08-29-2015, 09:14 PM
You said Tesla was an atheist and I provided a direct quote from him that proves he wasn't you stupid fucking piece of shit. Please, die in a car crash you waste of fucking life.

Tesla is noted for saying God is a product of man, and not the other way around. He also says that there's no such thing as an afterlife or eternal soul. Definitely sounds like an atheist to me.

Citation needed mother fucker.

Exactly. So mad you're making up quotes.

Samoht
08-29-2015, 09:29 PM
Or let's talk about Darwin for a second because he and Tesla are such great examples of highly intelligent men overcoming their indoctrination while on a quest for the truth.

After seminary, Darwin left on a crusade of sorts to discover the center of creation. What he found instead destroyed his faith. His relationship with the church was never the same.

It's such a good thing that the church has lost its stranglehold over most modern governments. There are a few outliers still of course but childhood indoctrination is becoming less and less common all over the world as human intelligence evolves to rely less on mysticism to explain the universe around us.

Pokesan
08-29-2015, 09:39 PM
You said Tesla was an atheist and I provided a direct quote from him that proves he wasn't you stupid fucking piece of shit. Please, die in a car crash you waste of fucking life.

this is what christianity looks like

phacemeltar
08-29-2015, 09:42 PM
this is what christianity looks like

i lol'd. def stealing this

Luminari
08-29-2015, 09:45 PM
Here's an interesting quote from Darwin.

“To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest possible degree.”

Here's another.

“Why, if species have descended from other species by insensibly fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms.”

Tesla is noted for saying God is a product of man, and not the other way around.

No you fucking idiot. What he said was that the attributes of God are made up by man and that man cannot actually know God's attributes.

Anyways, you're a fucking retard that believes in evolution so there's really no point in trying to reason with you. You believe in a theory that literally has zero evidence to support it and completely contradicts everything science stands for. Science REQUIRES observation and experimentation you dumb piece of shit. Nobody has literally ever observed evolution nor can anyone produce an experiment that confirms it. The only thing we ever see is ALL life forms producing more copies of exactly what they already are. Kill. Your. Fucking. Self.

Samoht
08-29-2015, 09:56 PM
Nobody has literally ever observed evolution nor can anyone produce an experiment that confirms it.

LOL. Please show me one person who has ever literally observed creation. You cannot do it.

Luminari
08-29-2015, 10:19 PM
LOL. Please show me one person who has ever literally observed creation. You cannot do it.

We observe it every day you fucking retard. Drive a car? Someone created it. Wear shoes? Someone created them. Sitting in a chair right now? Someone created it. EVERYTHING in this universe is created you dumb fuck. Everything that has a beginning HAS to have been created. You had a beginning, someone created you. Your parents had a beginning and someone created them too. Your house was created. Your clothes were created. Our DNA was created. How the fuck can something create itself idiot? Do books write them self? Do paintings paint them self? According to you, apparently they can. AKA you're a fucking retard.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-29-2015, 10:32 PM
I see he still hasn't cited his source for Tesla.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-29-2015, 10:35 PM
Also if you Google your first Darwin quote the first several pages are all "famous misquoted lines" lists.

Barkingturtle
08-29-2015, 10:39 PM
Nobody has literally ever observed evolution nor can anyone produce an experiment that confirms it. The only thing we ever see is ALL life forms producing more copies of exactly what they already are.

You're simply not informed. Specifically, bacteria has been observed in the lab, over many thousands of generations, and it changes. It becomes faster and more efficient at reproducing. This is evolution. In at least one such experiment, speciation has been observed. It isn't even like this is super recent research(the experiment I'm familiar with began 1988), and it's something someone with any level of curiosity on the subject should know by now.

I can't explain the origin of matter, but life with its many variations is no longer a mystery. We know how it works. The debate ended years ago. So at the very least, focus your rabid anti-intellectualism toward the riddles we have yet to solve, you dumb fucking shit.

Luminari
08-29-2015, 10:42 PM
I see he still hasn't cited his source for Tesla.

My Inventions: The Autobiography of Nikola Tesla

https://books.google.com/books?id=quQWvRLc-eUC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=The+gift+of+mental+power+comes+from+God,+Divine +Being,+and+if+we+concentrate+our+minds+on+that+tr uth,+we+become+in+tune+with+this+great+power.&source=bl&ots=VdAYS1Ioth&sig=Y6dwXJ-OUgh2mUPYq7R94AShprQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qpspUOq-B8v0iwKttIDACg#v=snippet&q=god&f=false

Happy now shit for brains? Most of the book is available for reading online and it so overwhelmingly proves he believes in God that you have to be a complete fucking retard to think he's an atheist.

Jarnauga
08-29-2015, 10:43 PM
Isaac Newton also was a firm believer in alchemy (not the shaman potion making one)

Let's teach alchemy in schools along with biology, teach the controversy :p

Luminari
08-29-2015, 10:47 PM
You're simply not informed. Specifically, bacteria has been observed in the lab, over many thousands of generations, and it changes. It becomes faster and more efficient at reproducing.

Sorry but no you fucking retard. It stays bacteria. ALWAYS. It doesn't change into anything else.

This is evolution. In at least one such experiment, speciation has been observed. It isn't even like this is super recent research(the experiment I'm familiar with began 1988), and it's something someone with any level of curiosity on the subject should know by now.

Again, no. No living thing has EVER been seen or shown in any way whatsoever to produce something other than what it already is.

I can't explain the origin of matter, but life with its many variations is no longer a mystery. We know how it works. The debate ended years ago. So at the very least, focus your rabid anti-intellectualism toward the riddles we have yet to solve, you dumb fucking shit.

There is no evidence for evolution or abiogenesis you shit for brains retard. However you're right, life and it's many variations is not a mystery. God created all of it and anyone with half a fucking brain realizes it.

Luminari
08-29-2015, 10:49 PM
Isaac Newton also was a firm believer in alchemy (not the shaman potion making one)

Let's teach alchemy in schools along with biology, teach the controversy :p

Your point retard? You realize that alchemy and chemistry are the same fucking thing right? You do realize that a shitload of people at that time were alchemists right? And that the father of modern day chemistry was an alchemist? You're an idiot.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-29-2015, 10:58 PM
My Inventions: The Autobiography of Nikola Tesla

https://books.google.com/books?id=quQWvRLc-eUC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=The+gift+of+mental+power+comes+from+God,+Divine +Being,+and+if+we+concentrate+our+minds+on+that+tr uth,+we+become+in+tune+with+this+great+power.&source=bl&ots=VdAYS1Ioth&sig=Y6dwXJ-OUgh2mUPYq7R94AShprQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qpspUOq-B8v0iwKttIDACg#v=snippet&q=god&f=false

Happy now shit for brains? Most of the book is available for reading online and it so overwhelmingly proves he believes in God that you have to be a complete fucking retard to think he's an atheist.

So his description of the recollection of his childhood referring to a quote from his mother = he was a Christian. Well by that logic Richard Dawkins must be Christian too since he talks about God a ton more.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-29-2015, 11:00 PM
Ah lovely, the lessons we learn from the enlightened Luminari.
Alchemy = chemistry
Abiogenesis = evolution

What's next? Pi=3 ?

Samoht
08-29-2015, 11:02 PM
We observe it every day you fucking retard. Drive a car? Someone created it. Wear shoes? Someone created them. Sitting in a chair right now? Someone created it. EVERYTHING in this universe is created you dumb fuck. Everything that has a beginning HAS to have been created. You had a beginning, someone created you. Your parents had a beginning and someone created them too. Your house was created. Your clothes were created. Our DNA was created. How the fuck can something create itself idiot? Do books write them self? Do paintings paint them self? According to you, apparently they can. AKA you're a fucking retard.

Okay, but none of this is creationism. Way to dodge the challenge. Failed.

Jarnauga
08-29-2015, 11:05 PM
Your point retard? You realize that alchemy and chemistry are the same fucking thing right? You do realize that a shitload of people at that time were alchemists right? And that the father of modern day chemistry was an alchemist? You're an idiot.

i'm not even gonna argue with you man.

I find comfort in knowing your kind is gonna disappear though.

http://www.pewforum.org/files/2015/05/PF_15.05.05_RLS2_1_310px.png

Samoht
08-29-2015, 11:06 PM
So his description of the recollection of his childhood referring to a quote from his mother = he was a Christian. Well by that logic Richard Dawkins must be Christian too since he talks about God a ton more.

It's a misquote taken out of context. Basically every single one of his quotes are. It's what the fanatics are known to do.

Samoht
08-29-2015, 11:07 PM
i'm not even gonna argue with you man.

I find comfort in knowing your kind is gonna disappear though.

http://www.pewforum.org/files/2015/05/PF_15.05.05_RLS2_1_310px.png

Pretty sure this is a great example of evolution in the making :D

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-29-2015, 11:18 PM
Too bad there's a rising extreme on the other side with an equal inability to comprehend reality.

Luminari
08-29-2015, 11:19 PM
i'm not even gonna argue with you man.

I find comfort in knowing your kind is gonna disappear though.

http://www.pewforum.org/files/2015/05/PF_15.05.05_RLS2_1_310px.png

No dumb fuck. This is just a confirmation of the Bible's prophetic ability. It specifically says that in the last days many will stray from the faith. Just goes to show how accurate the Bible actually is and how much of a pathetic waste life you are.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-29-2015, 11:21 PM
I am the anti-christ.

Kneel

Luminari
08-29-2015, 11:23 PM
So his description of the recollection of his childhood referring to a quote from his mother = he was a Christian. Well by that logic Richard Dawkins must be Christian too since he talks about God a ton more.

Read his quote from page 95 you fucking retard.

"Peace can only come as a natural consequence of universal enlightenment and merging of races, and we are still far from this blissful realization, because few indeed, will admit the reality "that God made man in his image" in which case all earth men are alike."

Please do society a favor and end your worthless life.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-29-2015, 11:24 PM
Isn't pope Francis the prophesied 'end of days' pope?

I wonder what excuse you morons will come up with when Armageddon+1 pope is chosen.

Samoht
08-29-2015, 11:25 PM
It specifically says that in the last days many will stray from the faith.

Self-fulling prophecy is self-fulfilling.

HAY GUISE, RITE AFTER THEY FIGURE OUT RELIGION IS BULLSHIT, THEIR GONNA STOP BELIEVING.

Luminari
08-29-2015, 11:26 PM
Okay, but none of this is creationism. Way to dodge the challenge. Failed.

Every example I provided is creationism you fucking moron. Regardless, DNA contains information and information can only come from an intelligent being. Therefor DNA was created by an intelligent being and since whoever created DNA, also created us, and that makes them God. Please kill yourself now?

Luminari
08-30-2015, 12:05 AM
Isn't pope Francis the prophesied 'end of days' pope?

I wonder what excuse you morons will come up with when Armageddon+1 pope is chosen.

Indeed and it all begins on September 23rd. The 266th Pope will visit the US on the 266th day of the year and usher in the end of days. I wonder what excuse you morons will come up with when you confront God and are forced to see how much of a fucking waste of life you've been.

Myth
08-30-2015, 12:08 AM
This belongs here
http://youtu.be/16p_16BguFM

Samoht
08-30-2015, 12:11 AM
Every example I provided is creationism you fucking moron.

No it wasn't. Please show me one single example of any witnessed event of someone creating a planet or creating a species or creating sentient life. People can craft inanimate objects until the cows come home, but that doesn't prove creationism.

Regardless, DNA contains information and information can only come from an intelligent being.

That's quite an assumption, but far from proves god. I'd recommend viewing the movie Prometheus.

Therefor DNA was created by an intelligent being and since whoever created DNA, also created us, and that makes them God.

Still a stretch. See above.

Please kill yourself now?

You are a terrible christian.

Pokesan
08-30-2015, 12:51 AM
I am the anti-christ.

Kneel

quote this if you're down

Pokesan
08-30-2015, 12:52 AM
You are a terrible christian.

this too

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-30-2015, 04:08 AM
Indeed and it all begins on September 23rd. The 266th Pope will visit the US on the 266th day of the year and usher in the end of days. I wonder what excuse you morons will come up with when you confront God and are forced to see how much of a fucking waste of life you've been.

If God exists I'd expect him to be happy I put his free will to good use by questioning what there was no evidence for and not blindly following dogma by an undeserving authority.

Luminari
08-30-2015, 11:42 AM
If God exists I'd expect him to be happy I put his free will to good use by questioning what there was no evidence for and not blindly following dogma by an undeserving authority.

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,g in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

God has made himself so obvious to us that you will be without excuse on the day you confront him and believe me, you're going to.

Ranndom
08-30-2015, 12:17 PM
i'm not even gonna argue with you man.

I find comfort in knowing your kind is gonna disappear though.

http://www.pewforum.org/files/2015/05/PF_15.05.05_RLS2_1_310px.png

Alchemy is the use of plants, generally medicinal.
Chemistry is the use of everything.
AKA, All alchemy is chemistry, but all chemistry isnt alchemy.
They arent the same.

Ranndom
08-30-2015, 12:18 PM
God has made himself so obvious to us that you will be without excuse on the day you confront him and believe me, you're going to.

If i met your god face to face id blow his brains out to spare the world trillions of live and to avenge trillions more.

Ranndom
08-30-2015, 12:22 PM
Luminari is really getting PO'd, i wonder if hes steaming yet

Jarnauga
08-30-2015, 03:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BBPOo6cYkM

phacemeltar
08-30-2015, 03:54 PM
everything must begin somewhere. if there is a higher power, it probably would not operate in terms of what you trolls call "intelligence". the problem with religion is that man has likened this "god" to resemble himself, but if we were to come in contact with our "creator" it most likely would not even exist on the same plane that we can perceive. type "god" into google and you will get many images of white men. what does this tell you?


next google "the spanish inquisition"

Ranndom
08-30-2015, 03:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BBPOo6cYkM

Ah, nutjobs make good entertainment tv dont they

Ranndom
08-30-2015, 04:02 PM
everything must begin somewhere. if there is a higher power, it probably would not operate in terms of what you trolls call "intelligence". the problem with religion is that man has likened this "god" to resemble himself, but if we were to come in contact with our "creator" it most likely would not even exist on the same plane that we can perceive. type "god" into google and you will get many images of white men. what does this tell you?


next google "the spanish inquisition"

Theres really only 2 possible theories on gods.
1. People create deities out of what they see but don't understand.
or
2. People create deities in their mind to explain what they don't understand
Either one would explain pretty much everything to some extent.
Lets just remember we dont have any true images of "god" or even Jesus (the image we know today was from a man who basically sold his sons image to the church, early 1600's i think?)
And one important other thing to remember in this world...There are no myths, only exaggerations.

phacemeltar
08-30-2015, 04:15 PM
Theres really only 2 possible theories on gods.
1. People create deities out of what they see but don't understand.
or
2. People create deities in their mind to explain what they don't understand
Either one would explain pretty much everything to some extent.
Lets just remember we dont have any true images of "god" or even Jesus (the image we know today was from a man who basically sold his sons image to the church, early 1600's i think?)
And one important other thing to remember in this world...There are no myths, only exaggerations.

humans cant even agree on what dreams, gravity, or energy are. meanwhile deforestation exists, yet we require oxygen and eat plants. species' (which christianity states we are the wardens of) have been copywritten to the brink of extinction and pollution is on the rise. this entitlement and concept of ownership (both which i believe stem from religion) disgust me.

if there is god, and god is all things, this earth is part of god. humanity is a plague, basing "progress" on unproven theories. it must be very satisfying to think that some sky-creature created all of this for you to binge netflix and murder animals. i, personally, have some other ideas.

Samoht
08-30-2015, 04:31 PM
Alchemy is the use of plants, generally medicinal.
Chemistry is the use of everything.
AKA, All alchemy is chemistry, but all chemistry isnt alchemy.
They arent the same.

That is not the alchemy being referred to.

The alchemy being referred to is the magical ability to change the properties of matter (lead into gold).

It's often used to point out how ignorant the "scientist" was that practiced it.

Myth
08-30-2015, 04:50 PM
Theres really only 2 possible theories on gods.
1. People create deities out of what they see but don't understand.
or
2. People create deities in their mind to explain what they don't understand
Either one would explain pretty much everything to some extent.
Lets just remember we dont have any true images of "god" or even Jesus (the image we know today was from a man who basically sold his sons image to the church, early 1600's i think?)
And one important other thing to remember in this world...There are no myths, only exaggerations.

or 3. 'God' is "pre-programmed" into our DNA by our creator. Free will was given as to believe or not believe. Society is what provides all with what they believe or not believe. If you were the only person on Earth. Free of all the shit we are succumbed to on a daily basis (ie: media), I'm sure you would question. Why am I here? Who put me here? However, that question is absolutely impossible to answer because everyone, and I mean everyone, even off the grid 3rd world tribes, is brought up in some sort of social society where the pressures of the free will are imposed upon them on a daily basis. Is human religion correct? That's for one to decide on their own, but creationism... I cant disagree with. Something created everything.

Luminari
08-30-2015, 05:02 PM
That is not the alchemy being referred to.

The alchemy being referred to is the magical ability to change the properties of matter (lead into gold).

It's often used to point out how ignorant the "scientist" was that practiced it.

You're so fucking retarded it's a joke. The father of modern day chemistry was an alchemist you fucking idiot. Modern day chemistry is entirely based upon alchemy.

Ranndom
08-30-2015, 05:21 PM
or 3. 'God' is "pre-programmed" into our DNA by our creator. Free will was given as to believe or not believe. Society is what provides all with what they believe or not believe. If you were the only person on Earth. Free of all the shit we are succumbed to on a daily basis (ie: media), I'm sure you would question. Why am I here? Who put me here? However, that question is absolutely impossible to answer because everyone, and I mean everyone, even off the grid 3rd world tribes, is brought up in some sort of social society where the pressures of the free will are imposed upon them on a daily basis. Is human religion correct? That's for one to decide on their own, but creationism... I cant disagree with. Something created everything.

Everyone is programmed. This isnt an option, Its a basic fact.

Ranndom
08-30-2015, 05:23 PM
You're so fucking retarded it's a joke. The father of modern day chemistry was an alchemist you fucking idiot. Modern day chemistry is entirely based upon alchemy.

Do you understand why everyone on this forum really doesn't like you right now?
You're a prime example of why christians are forced into their own little isolated world away from the rest of civilization. You're a group of ignorant fools who do nothing but unleash personal attacks at any opposing opinion. Its amazing you guys havent declared war on each other yet.

Myth
08-30-2015, 05:44 PM
Do you understand why everyone on this forum really doesn't like you right now?
You're a prime example of why christians are forced into their own little isolated world away from the rest of civilization. You're a group of ignorant fools who do nothing but unleash personal attacks at any opposing opinion. Its amazing you guys havent declared war on each other yet.

While Luminari may be a poor example of a Christian, please done assume that all Christians act this way. I'll spare you the analogies as I'm certain you are intelligent enough to understand my point.

Ranndom
08-30-2015, 05:47 PM
While Luminari may be a poor example of a Christian, please done assume that all Christians act this way. I'll spare you the analogies as I'm certain you are intelligent enough to understand my point.

Oh yea i perfectly understand your point. But the christians who arent like him generally stay in the shadows.
Its really no different than gangsters/black lives matter/ etc. Less than 30% of Blacks actually associate with them yet they represent the voice of the race while the sane ones just kinda shake their heads

Myth
08-30-2015, 06:30 PM
Oh yea i perfectly understand your point. But the christians who arent like him generally stay in the shadows.
Its really no different than gangsters/black lives matter/ etc. Less than 30% of Blacks actually associate with them yet they represent the voice of the race while the sane ones just kinda shake their heads

i don't think it is a conscious decision to "stay in the shadows". It's just many practicing Christians donnot fully incorporate the church into their lives. I'm one of them. While I have a crucifix in my home and go to church every Sunday, I know I don't do as much as I should (volunteer/help my fellow man, daily prayer, etc) and I'm aware of that. I don't openly voice my religious views because a majority of my time is spent at work and at work there are three things you don't talk about; money, politics and religion. Talking about religion always ends up in a discussion just like this thread. I don't feel the need that I need to speak about it because whether or not someone agrees or disagrees with me doesn't matter. I generally don't even post on msg boards because I generally see the big picture and understand each side of the discussion. I'm gonna post though, not to be hypocritical but because I would feel like I wasted a lot of time typing this to just delete and not hit send.

The big picture is love thy neighbor. We're all in this together. If everyone just got along and understood that, this world would be a much happier place. Instead our focus always seems to be on subjects the population is split on. Our own worst enemy is each other. Know this, if you knocked on my door, starving, asking for food and shelter, I'd help you out and like to think most people would do the same (see; why social engineering is so successful). Why and how things get so radical and chaotic (riots, wars, etc) is definitely not the norm. Which is why so many conspiracy theorists believe there is some hidden agenda to divide and conquer.

Sorry for the book. I just had a lot to say. Not saying any of it is right or wrong. Just my opinion and you know what they say about those! :)

Ranndom
08-30-2015, 06:40 PM
i don't think it is a conscious decision to "stay in the shadows". It's just many practicing Christians donnot fully incorporate the church into their lives. I'm one of them. While I have a crucifix in my home and go to church every Sunday, I know I don't do as much as I should (volunteer/help my fellow man, daily prayer, etc) and I'm aware of that. I don't openly voice my religious views because a majority of my time is spent at work and at work there are three things you don't talk about; money, politics and religion. Talking about religion always ends up in a discussion just like this thread. I don't feel the need that I need to speak about it because whether or not someone agrees or disagrees with me doesn't matter. I generally don't even post on msg boards because I generally see the big picture and understand each side of the discussion. I'm gonna post though, not to be hypocritical but because I would feel like I wasted a lot of time typing this to just delete and not hit send.

The big picture is love thy neighbor. We're all in this together. If everyone just got along and understood that, this world would be a much happier place. Instead our focus always seems to be on subjects the population is split on. Our own worst enemy is each other. Know this, if you knocked on my door, starving, asking for food and shelter, I'd help you out and like to think most people would do the same (see; why social engineering is so successful). Why and how things get so radical and chaotic (riots, wars, etc) is definitely not the norm. Which is why so many conspiracy theorists believe there is some hidden agenda to divide and conquer.

Sorry for the book. I just had a lot to say. Not saying any of it is right or wrong. Just my opinion and you know what they say about those! :)
When i say shadows i mean the shadow of the outspoken ones.
and The divide and conquer agenda isnt hidden at all. Its public image is quite literally George Soros, whose been the one funding Black lives matter, New black panthers, etc.
And i talk about money, politics, and religion at work all the time with people i have a read on. Someone like luminari i probably wouldnt even talk too at work.
Truth is, anyone who is actually open minded and interested in the world will easily and openly have a conversation of opposing viewpoints.

Samoht
08-30-2015, 08:13 PM
The father of modern day chemistry was an alchemist

And yet, it's still not an actual science. It's a bunch of mumbo-jumbo based on mysticism just like your belief in an invisible magician in the sky.

Luminari
08-30-2015, 08:50 PM
And yet, it's still not an actual science. It's a bunch of mumbo-jumbo based on mysticism just like your belief in an invisible magician in the sky.

Chemistry is basically alchemy turned into science you fucking retard. Know how gun powder was first made? By alchemy, idiot. Know how porcelain was first made? By alchemy, idiot. While the primary focus of alchemy was turning lead into gold, it was not the only use for it.

Samoht
08-30-2015, 08:56 PM
Chemistry is basically alchemy turned into science you fucking retard. Know how gun powder was first made? By alchemy, idiot. Know how porcelain was first made? By alchemy, idiot. While the primary focus of alchemy was turning lead into gold, it was not the only use for it.

The things you listed as examples of good alchemy were not actually reasons to use it. The logic is flawed because the discoveries were all accidental at best. If they had intended on making gunpowder, the science used would have been chemistry, not alchemy. Nobody denies that the origins might be similar just like nobody admits alchemy is a real science. Just like know real scientist will say that there's a god. Scientists do not believe in mysticism.

And please, misquoting people that died more than two hundred years ago won't ever help you to prove otherwise. We've come a long way even in the last few decades, and people are finally putting mysticism where it belongs: in heaven.

Luminari
08-30-2015, 09:41 PM
And please, misquoting people that died more than two hundred years ago won't ever help you to prove otherwise. We've come a long way even in the last few decades, and people are finally putting mysticism where it belongs: in heaven.

Lol misquoting. Kill your fucking self. Science was invented by devout believers in God as a means to better understand him you worthless ignorant piece of shit.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-30-2015, 10:45 PM
Lol misquoting. Kill your fucking self. Science was invented by devout believers in God as a means to better understand him you worthless ignorant piece of shit.

You're way past annoying at this point.

Samoht
08-30-2015, 11:23 PM
Lol misquoting.

We've already proven that all of your quotes were out of context or not even real. Yes, misquoting.

Science was invented by devout believers in God as a means to better understand him

And then science went on to discover that it was all a farce. Welcome to the twenty first century.

Kill your fucking self.

What would Jesus say if he heard you tell someone to kill themselves? Are you trying to guarantee your place in Hell? Because with an attitude like that, you will never make it into Heaven.

Luminari
08-30-2015, 11:29 PM
We've already proven that all of your quotes were out of context or not even real. Yes, misquoting.

Lol you're so fucking delusional it's a god damn joke. Please get cancer and die irl you dumb delusional waste of fucking life.

Samoht
08-30-2015, 11:33 PM
Lol you're so fucking delusional it's a god damn joke. Please get cancer and die irl you dumb delusional waste of fucking life.

Only one of us is delusional, and it's more than likely the one that believes that an invisible magician in the sky created him, the heavens, and the earth. The other one realizes how ridiculous that sounds and puts more faith in logic than mysticism.

Big_Japan
08-30-2015, 11:35 PM
And then science went on to discover that it was all a farce. Welcome to the twenty first century.

You really are a retard if you think the scientific method has somehow rendered spirituality a farce.

You and Luminari will never agree because you're two sides of the same spiritually vacant coin. The person who lets state religion sheathed in "this book is real old so it's literally true" trump what he can physically and literally observe to be true, and the person who thinks disproving that interpretation of the Bible means rendering all spiritual study null and void, are the same unthinking cretin marinated in two different flavors of useful ignorance.

Nobody with an actual connection to spirituality believes there is a literal cloudy gate to heaven with a literal Saint Peter waiting there to talk to your humanoid-shaped spirit like in Bruce Almighty. Christian or otherwise. Don't pat yourself so hard on the head over figuring out the same that you give yourself brain damage.

Luminari
08-31-2015, 01:52 AM
Only one of us is delusional, and it's more than likely the one that believes that an invisible magician in the sky created him, the heavens, and the earth. The other one realizes how ridiculous that sounds and puts more faith in logic than mysticism.

Trust me dude, you're so fucking delusional it's a joke. You think nothing created everything and that ultra complex things can just magically form on their own. You think a computer code can magically write itself. You're a fucking shit for brains waste of life that needs to do society a favor and fucking die in a car crash.

Pokesan
08-31-2015, 01:57 AM
Trust me dude, you're so fucking delusional it's a joke. You think nothing created everything and that ultra complex things can just magically form on their own. You think a computer code can magically write itself. You're a fucking shit for brains waste of life that needs to do society a favor and fucking die in a car crash.

Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Luminari
08-31-2015, 02:00 AM
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

That only applies to people. Samoht is sub-human and deserves death.

Pokesan
08-31-2015, 02:14 AM
That only applies to people. Samoht is sub-human and deserves death.

why are you so mean?

phacemeltar
08-31-2015, 04:08 AM
why are you so mean?

seems like an angsty teenager

Samoht
08-31-2015, 08:43 AM
Trust me dude, you're so fucking delusional it's a joke. You think nothing created everything and that ultra complex things can just magically form on their own. You think a computer code can magically write itself. You're a fucking shit for brains waste of life that needs to do society a favor and fucking die in a car crash.

Calls other people delusional.

Believes in an invisible magician in the sky.

The indoctrination is real.

maskedmelon
08-31-2015, 09:03 AM
You really are a retard if you think the scientific method has somehow rendered spirituality a farce.

You and Luminari will never agree because you're two sides of the same spiritually vacant coin. The person who lets state religion sheathed in "this book is real old so it's literally true" trump what he can physically and literally observe to be true, and the person who thinks disproving that interpretation of the Bible means rendering all spiritual study null and void, are the same unthinking cretin marinated in two different flavors of useful ignorance.

Nobody with an actual connection to spirituality believes there is a literal cloudy gate to heaven with a literal Saint Peter waiting there to talk to your humanoid-shaped spirit like in Bruce Almighty. Christian or otherwise. Don't pat yourself so hard on the head over figuring out the same that you give yourself brain damage.

^ This. Faith/spirituality exist outside the jurisdiction of science since the concepts cannot be tested. This applies to the disbelief in any god just as it does to the beliefs therein since the means to test/validate either claim are inherently not a part of the observable natural world.

Samoht
08-31-2015, 09:22 AM
Faith/spirituality exist outside the jurisdiction of science since the concepts cannot be tested. This applies to the disbelief in any god just as it does to the beliefs therein since the means to test/validate either claim are inherently not a part of the observable natural world.

Belief in mysticism cannot be intelligently justified. Why do you think it's experiencing such a steep decline? You don't have to specifically discredit one particular cult or heathen group to figure it out. The problem is that there are so many varying beliefs and stories obfuscating the entire spectrum. Which one is right? Deductive logic would indicate none of them are right.

Least of all the ones that say eating shellfish is a sin. Or that we should stone children. Or we should cast our wives into the woods while they bleed. What the fuck.

Religion is nuts.

maskedmelon
08-31-2015, 09:44 AM
Belief in mysticism cannot be intelligently justified. Why do you think it's experiencing such a steep decline? You don't have to specifically discredit one particular cult or heathen group to figure it out. The problem is that there are so many varying beliefs and stories obfuscating the entire spectrum. Which one is right? Deductive logic would indicate none of them are right.

Least of all the ones that say eating shellfish is a sin. Or that we should stone children. Or we should cast our wives into the woods while they bleed. What the fuck.

Religion is nuts.

Reason and faith are inherently mutually exclusive. The reason for decline in faith is because 1. society has placed the two at odds and 2. most people find it extraordinarily difficult to believe one thing that might conflict with another thing that they know to be true. So rather than risk the consequences of abandoning the faith of which they have been indoctrinated throughout their life, they reject the knowledge.

It is a matter of simple human nature. Free thinkers are an extraordinary rarity. Most people surrender their minds to the pre-established ideologies contrived of others to simplify/expedite decision making because they lack the time, will or capacity to do so themselves. This applies to all ideology. The moment self is associated with an idea is the moment it has been lost.

Samoht
08-31-2015, 09:53 AM
Reason and faith are inherently mutually exclusive.

most people find it extraordinarily difficult to believe one thing that might conflict with another thing that they know to be true.

These two statements contradict each other. If religion says one thing that conflicts with something else that can be known to be true, then the two cannot be mutually exclusive.

perrier
08-31-2015, 09:56 AM
Reason and faith are inherently mutually exclusive. The reason for decline in faith is because 1. society has placed the two at odds

I think that your first sentence clearly demonstrates why the second is only part true. It isn't that society has placed the two at odds, its more that as you indicated they are mutually exclusive of one another.

That said, there need not necessarily be overlap and the two can coexist peacefully and for the most part do.

maskedmelon
08-31-2015, 10:13 AM
These two statements contradict each other. If religion says one thing that conflicts with something else that can be known to be true, then the two cannot be mutually exclusive.

Faith is belief without proof or reason, so there is no problem with believing something contrary to what is known. It is a matter of choice.

It is a simple concept, but as you have demonstrated it is not easily grasped by most, especially those of faith whom you despise.

It is not the concepts themselves that are flawed. Rather it is the understanding of them that is often incorrect.

Samoht
08-31-2015, 10:14 AM
It is a matter of choice.

A choice to be ignorant? Pass.

maskedmelon
08-31-2015, 10:19 AM
A choice to be ignorant? Pass.

No, because you'd still know and accept reason/knowledge. You'd just choose to believe something additional. Unfounded? Yes. Wrong? Indeterminate.

Again, most people view faith/reason as binary alternatives. They're not.

Samoht
08-31-2015, 10:23 AM
you'd still know and accept reason/knowledge.

Expect militant Christians don't accept reason. See: Luminari.

Hell, militant factions of any sect do not accept reason. Many of them flat our reject it.

Look at the idiots in the Middle East throwing the entire region back to the stone age by destroying any cultural centers that aren't their own. All done in the name of God.

That's not accepting of anything.

maskedmelon
08-31-2015, 10:38 AM
I agree and that is the problem with treating reason and faith as competing alternatives, which they are doing. Leaders of faith need to realize and propagate the understanding that the two are not alternatives. In the end it assures the longevity of their beliefs without stifling advancement.

Efwan
08-31-2015, 11:37 AM
Can we get back to the asinine comments/essays by Ranndom and Shift spewing nonsense that makes everyone lol?

Ranndom
08-31-2015, 01:17 PM
Can we get back to the asinine comments/essays by Ranndom and Shift spewing nonsense that makes everyone lol?

Really now? Asinine?

bakkily
09-01-2015, 01:18 AM
(I started this to be a list of events to occur). But I imputed some of my feelings, this is ran and such right.

Okay, there are big big events going to take place. Either for one, you will be a fool and a coward to your family and everything good, all that God has blessed you with in life. Or, one that is aware, you don't have to be a Christian to be aware, but a patriot. There are patriots all over the world in every country, good honorable men and women. Then there are those who are God-fearing, they search the scriptures and give thanks to God for His goodness and mercy. I am not belittling those who may not believe in God, who gave them life, life is a path, and in this path we want to be happy. But there are those who are evil evil evil men and women. Their end goal is to chip everyone and welcome them into there Luciferian world. Thinkers as they put it, the logical, to the pride of ones self, like Lucifer himself.

As George Bush Senior put it in a I think 89 UN speech, we will have the New World Order, not the law of the jungle. These men believe in a sort of I will call it a web, for how evil it is. To them its light and brilliance. This net of lies and deciete, to them life and light. That all be one they say, but rather they are over seers. Don't be fulled by them, they are liars, sorcerers.

They want to merge human flesh, (the mind) with technology, which they say the humans who are left to live and join their demonized world, will join them. But be weary.

Now you are either a fool/coward or a honorable/God-fearing man or women. Tho whom's kingdom do you want to be in?

There is so much stuff to take place until one day when they false flag a ufo/alien invasion, and to those whom live will have to enter in through the false light and become a slave to the Luciferians. This would be one of there last of the domino peices to fall. There are others. many will be decieved. ( I dont want to go into every single detail, I'd love to, but I know some will mock the truth, for there eyes are not open because there hearts are closed to the things of the world, and this kingdom soon to fall, Ordo Seclurim, for they are of old, and always has this kingdom fallen over and over again. This is not new, but new in the form it is to be represented.

War will happen, you're internet will be shut down. For in peace they say that they come to protect you, but rather to enslave you. You believe for in peace they said they arrived. But as they leave, in shackles you are. Debt, debt is there power, and you will be indebted to them through a rfid chip, to track you. This is the point whether you choose, will be a coward and take the chip, or honorable and say no to the devil, to hell with you.

False wars they've tested you, was all these wars in the middle east for peace and security, or debt and control? Oil, is just an asset, but land, that is the power, to whom it is given to govern is up to them. Only to set up more future wars.

This September, ends the Shimitah year. For in wickedness there is no blessing. To the homosexuals and lesbians, to you it is to whom God will deplore His curse to this Nation in God we trust was founded, and so it is divided. Cursed is He who does not walk in the light of His Son. Be honorable. Some are cursed, some are blessed. To the usury and the money changers, your dividends and bonds will fall. Money is the control. Want the facts, follow the money. In this year of 2015 is armies being amassed, has been for years, the Russians were always a Iron people. The Chinese prideful, but willing cause her enimies to quake in her sight. This dragon will erupt across the globe in monetary power, yet as America is wicked, blessings that have sustained Freedom and In God We Trust for over 200 years, will soon see Isis and other enmies, is the enemy of my enemy my friend? 2016 will see trouble, not jubiliee, after wards, we will see the grunt fist of iron of war fall upon America.

How do they do this? Why did they do this. There is so much down this rabbit hole, and so much to see. End goal, get everyone chipped, make entertainment nice for everyone, but impulse the demonizing in every sound of music, in every movie clip dishonor, immoral and the decay of the family unit. Make everyone chase after money, but the system is so rigged that few attain the American dream. To those who don't. Easily rather with so much time on their hand they choose entertainment, being indoctrinated so easily. That children are growing up too quick. Kids being zombies over every facet of the glee of impulse fun. Instead of good heart warming kindess that comes along with tradition, its kicked out rather then enjoyed, because these are new times. All the things of old are gone, we have no need for them. Just like the leaders of Old Rome would run more games, more games for the citizens, when the poor needed improvments to water, or other liviable conditions. More games to entertain. Okay Everquest I love. But its the balance in life. Get out, this may sound harsh, Hike a real mountain. Cast a real fishing pole. This I play to relax, I use to be ultra consumed years ago when I was going through some real stuff in life.

Pokesan
09-01-2015, 01:36 AM
(I started this to be a list of events to occur). But I imputed some of my feelings, this is ran and such right.

Okay, there are big big events going to take place. Either for one, you will be a fool and a coward to your family and everything good, all that God has blessed you with in life. Or, one that is aware, you don't have to be a Christian to be aware, but a patriot. There are patriots all over the world in every country, good honorable men and women. Then there are those who are God-fearing, they search the scriptures and give thanks to God for His goodness and mercy. I am not belittling those who may not believe in God, who gave them life, life is a path, and in this path we want to be happy. But there are those who are evil evil evil men and women. Their end goal is to chip everyone and welcome them into there Luciferian world. Thinkers as they put it, the logical, to the pride of ones self, like Lucifer himself.

As George Bush Senior put it in a I think 89 UN speech, we will have the New World Order, not the law of the jungle. These men believe in a sort of I will call it a web, for how evil it is. To them its light and brilliance. This net of lies and deciete, to them life and light. That all be one they say, but rather they are over seers. Don't be fulled by them, they are liars, sorcerers.

They want to merge human flesh, (the mind) with technology, which they say the humans who are left to live and join their demonized world, will join them. But be weary.

Now you are either a fool/coward or a honorable/God-fearing man or women. Tho whom's kingdom do you want to be in?

There is so much stuff to take place until one day when they false flag a ufo/alien invasion, and to those whom live will have to enter in through the false light and become a slave to the Luciferians. This would be one of there last of the domino peices to fall. There are others. many will be decieved. ( I dont want to go into every single detail, I'd love to, but I know some will mock the truth, for there eyes are not open because there hearts are closed to the things of the world, and this kingdom soon to fall, Ordo Seclurim, for they are of old, and always has this kingdom fallen over and over again. This is not new, but new in the form it is to be represented.

War will happen, you're internet will be shut down. For in peace they say that they come to protect you, but rather to enslave you. You believe for in peace they said they arrived. But as they leave, in shackles you are. Debt, debt is there power, and you will be indebted to them through a rfid chip, to track you. This is the point whether you choose, will be a coward and take the chip, or honorable and say no to the devil, to hell with you.

False wars they've tested you, was all these wars in the middle east for peace and security, or debt and control? Oil, is just an asset, but land, that is the power, to whom it is given to govern is up to them. Only to set up more future wars.

This September, ends the Shimitah year. For in wickedness there is no blessing. To the homosexuals and lesbians, to you it is to whom God will deplore His curse to this Nation in God we trust was founded, and so it is divided. Cursed is He who does not walk in the light of His Son. Be honorable. Some are cursed, some are blessed. To the usury and the money changers, your dividends and bonds will fall. Money is the control. Want the facts, follow the money. In this year of 2015 is armies being amassed, has been for years, the Russians were always a Iron people. The Chinese prideful, but willing cause her enimies to quake in her sight. This dragon will erupt across the globe in monetary power, yet as America is wicked, blessings that have sustained Freedom and In God We Trust for over 200 years, will soon see Isis and other enmies, is the enemy of my enemy my friend? 2016 will see trouble, not jubiliee, after wards, we will see the grunt fist of iron of war fall upon America.

How do they do this? Why did they do this. There is so much down this rabbit hole, and so much to see. End goal, get everyone chipped, make entertainment nice for everyone, but impulse the demonizing in every sound of music, in every movie clip dishonor, immoral and the decay of the family unit. Make everyone chase after money, but the system is so rigged that few attain the American dream. To those who don't. Easily rather with so much time on their hand they choose entertainment, being indoctrinated so easily. That children are growing up too quick. Kids being zombies over every facet of the glee of impulse fun. Instead of good heart warming kindess that comes along with tradition, its kicked out rather then enjoyed, because these are new times. All the things of old are gone, we have no need for them. Just like the leaders of Old Rome would run more games, more games for the citizens, when the poor needed improvments to water, or other liviable conditions. More games to entertain. Okay Everquest I love. But its the balance in life. Get out, this may sound harsh, Hike a real mountain. Cast a real fishing pole. This I play to relax, I use to be ultra consumed years ago when I was going through some real stuff in life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWYwckFrksg

bakkily
09-01-2015, 01:43 AM
(I will not explain in every finite detail, open your eyes, watch some videos on youtube, I've known about this stuff for over the last 12 years when I first learned about project blue ray in my junior year of high school).

Okay, lets start with the starting of the UN, the united nations was started by a group of men, not in the year it actually claimed. But years before. (I've forgot some dates).

We had ww1, then ww2. Calamities to the world. A world war by definition is where on two fronts, or continents is war.

Cold war, never was a war, it was a build up of a war in coming up with technology.

Okay, these men who are this evil cabal like to manipulate truth so they have there victories. They are maneuvered so well, to dupe the population into believing their propaganda and lies.

Skip over to the Vietnam war, new war, war profiteering. New forms of testing of equipment, this is my theory I've thought of. Why for what sake did we want to help the French here? They've been there since the 50's, what were we there to stop Communisim, as supposed? I was fed this lie in high school.

Communism was put into place by the Rothschilds I believe, read the book called, The Creature from Jekyll Island, I started it back in late high school time but did not finish it. Its on my reading list again. One it shows Albert Pikes demonic (dream?) plans to push for a world wide luciferinism type of one world government. In that, the creation of Communisim, to start a war, there has to be an enemy. Who is lucifer at war with, God. To inhibit this war, there must be a anti Christ, really, Communisim is such, read the communist manifesto. You can find Albert Pikes dream plan online, its not long. It gives detail to all that has gone on for the last 200 years. We are in the last plans of it, to unleash as he says, the Nihilist. These evil demonized luciferians war, and its been awar on your mind since you were a kid, just like mine. They build up to break down. They will break down everything one day, to bring in Satan, and many will who are cowards invite Satan that great snake into them. This is more then the rfid chip. It goes even above and beyond that. Its absolute control over you. They already have your mind, but the body, the hearts won first, but mastery is the body.

World war 3 I know will happen soon. Undoubtly it will. The family is so precious.

Be careful of future events to happen, ones bigger then 9/11. If you dont think there are puppetmasters out there. Think again. I am not here to attack, but directly disclose there is a evil agenda. Right now the data mining I call it, has a huge part in the rfid chip. There has to be more to happen, first is always the money to collapse, they know without, some who are pre prepared knew what was to happen. But those with some cash who didnt prepare before, will fight in this super imposed civil war. I'd like to say other wars will follow after, at some point wars with nation against nation will ensue. The snuffing out of 90% of the world population, how will this happend, there is biological, civil war, nation war, a big threat by the UN is agenda 21, the retention of civilians and to move them to another area. Some will live and some will die. Don't believe there propaganda and be a coward. The matrix speaks of one thing that neo did, he free'd his mind from the matrix, propaganda ect, but learned truly how to harness his potential, we are humans and live coexisting in our enviornment in love. True love. Not the love these liars say they will bring in the form of peace only to enslave.

At some point, the false alien invasion card will be pulled. And I'd say all will welcome the lie. Don't be a coward, go watch some of these videos on youtube. I live in one of the Jade Helm 15 states, nothing happening here so far. But texas is the center stage. They have the peices fitted together, its now time to unleash the Nihilist, and September is the start. Be honorable. Know that the internet will go down, they don't want people to open there eyes. They want eyes wide shut. So they can feed their lies.

bakkily
09-01-2015, 01:44 AM
Poke fun at it. You need to open your eyes.

bakkily
09-01-2015, 01:46 AM
Fight for freedom on your feet. Or be at dust on your knees.

Ranndom
09-01-2015, 09:48 AM
Just so you know Bakkily. ISIS has been around since at least 1990.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMUlTSmNu0c
And really, once you know that, everything begins to tie itself together and suddenly this "isis" suddenly has origins and motives that make sense and arent just some boogeyman you're lied to about on the news

Efwan
09-01-2015, 02:21 PM
Lmao add another nutjob in here.

Big_Japan
09-01-2015, 02:31 PM
september 1
http://oi61.tinypic.com/i4fnrl.jpg

myriverse
09-01-2015, 03:17 PM
Really now? Asinine?
Agreed. More like asiten... or twelve.

Ranndom
09-02-2015, 10:22 AM
september 1
http://oi61.tinypic.com/i4fnrl.jpg

Anyone who looked into my original post would know september is going to be a month of major spikes. The majority of which will be lows.
Were really just getting started.

Orruar
09-02-2015, 06:52 PM
Anyone who looked into my original post would know september is going to be a month of major spikes. The majority of which will be lows.
Were really just getting started.

Oh neat, a stock market prediction on the internet. Let's revisit this on Sept 30. Market up nearly 300 today.

What'll be real fun is if the fed decides not to hike interest rates this month and the market rebounds because a rate hike has already been priced in.

iruinedyourday
09-02-2015, 07:13 PM
Anyone who looked into my original post would know september is going to be a month of major spikes. The majority of which will be lows.
Were really just getting started.

By spikes do you mean emotional highs and lows triggered by your skitsofrantic manic depression? Yea, its gonna be full of those.

jarshale
09-02-2015, 07:22 PM
So did the economy crash yet?

Big_Japan
09-02-2015, 07:35 PM
i'm not much of a true believer but i'm really rooting for a big collapse this month so we can get ppl motivated to fire up the ovens

Big_Japan
09-02-2015, 07:37 PM
music low and women warm, I been kicked around since I was born

Orruar
09-02-2015, 10:21 PM
skitsofrantic

You never cease to surprise. I thought you'd be familiar enough with this word that you could spell it frontwards and back. Though I suppose they don't usually write the name of the condition down on the medicine bottle.

iruinedyourday
09-02-2015, 10:50 PM
You never cease to surprise. I thought you'd be familiar enough with this word that you could spell it frontwards and back. Though I suppose they don't usually write the name of the condition down on the medicine bottle.

U really think I'm gona care enough to figure out how to spell that fucked up word? C'mon. It just looks like a blur to me.

Big_Japan
09-03-2015, 03:03 AM
i thought he spelt it wrong on purpose, like the guy was doing frantic skits when he trolled these forums. shoulda just gone with that explanation man points lost

visage
09-03-2015, 04:34 AM
We observe it every day you fucking retard. Drive a car? Someone created it. Wear shoes? Someone created them. Sitting in a chair right now? Someone created it. EVERYTHING in this universe is created you dumb fuck. Everything that has a beginning HAS to have been created. You had a beginning, someone created you. Your parents had a beginning and someone created them too. Your house was created. Your clothes were created. Our DNA was created. How the fuck can something create itself idiot? Do books write them self? Do paintings paint them self? According to you, apparently they can. AKA you're a fucking retard.

HOLY FUCK STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER!!!!!

visage
09-03-2015, 04:42 AM
Luminari you insult people and call them names.. You promote and hope people suffer for their lack of intelligence you so have WTF are you?

Luminari
09-03-2015, 05:35 AM
You promote and hope people suffer for their lack of intelligence you so have WTF are you?

Let's try that in English please?

Ranndom
09-03-2015, 10:46 AM
Let's try that in English please?

He basically called you a hypocritical satan. Which is spot on

Ranndom
09-04-2015, 03:26 PM
September 13th, aka 2015's wipeout day is just around the corner.
Every 7 years since 1973 theres has been a crash of some sort, just so happens to be the end of the shemitah cycle.
Many investors and those who track the stock market are expecting this crash, potentially a full on collapse, to be worse than the previous 5 crashes that date back to 1973.
Hyper inflation will hit suddenly and like a brick wall if it comes.
So are you going to get ready for what may come? Or are you going to ignore statistics and history? Because neither are on your side if you choose to ignore them.

Whirled
09-04-2015, 03:38 PM
WTS: [Tinfoil Hat]

http://memecrunch.com/meme/1GJSH/good-god-i-ve-been-sayin-it-i-ve-been-sayin-it-for-ten-damn-years/image.png?w=500&c=1

Discounts if bulk?

Pokesan
09-04-2015, 03:44 PM
i predict i will mow the lawn this weekend

phacemeltar
09-04-2015, 03:48 PM
i predict i will take a nap right meow

Ranndom
09-04-2015, 03:50 PM
i predict i will take a nap right meow

Meow dont you nap too long meow, ya hear?

Orruar
09-11-2015, 07:21 PM
Anyone who looked into my original post would know september is going to be a month of major spikes. The majority of which will be lows.
Were really just getting started.

Two weeks into September. Let's check in on the markets.

Close Aug 31: 16526
Close Sept 11: 16433

Down less than 100 points so far. A few moderate spikes, about 50/50 up/down. When do the major spikes start and when do we get started with the huge drop off you predicted?

Can't wait for the fed to meet, decide not to raise interest rates, and watch the market rebound back to 18k+. Or maybe we'll both be wrong and the current sideways trend will continue.

Efwan
09-11-2015, 08:48 PM
Two weeks into September. Let's check in on the markets.

Close Aug 31: 16526
Close Sept 11: 16433

Down less than 100 points so far. A few moderate spikes, about 50/50 up/down. When do the major spikes start and when do we get started with the huge drop off you predicted?

Can't wait for the fed to meet, decide not to raise interest rates, and watch the market rebound back to 18k+. Or maybe we'll both be wrong and the current sideways trend will continue.

Lol that's why Ranndom and Shift stopped posting here, because ain't none of that shit happening. October will arrive stock market will still be fine and no alien invasions on the horizon

Orruar
09-11-2015, 09:04 PM
Lol that's why Ranndom and Shift stopped posting here, because ain't none of that shit happening. October will arrive stock market will still be fine and no alien invasions on the horizon

Maybe they stopped posting because they're already sequestered in their survival bunkers, eating canned sardines and awaiting the inevitable destruction of the world.

Knuckle
09-11-2015, 09:16 PM
For those who havent heard, yesterday the market plunged. The DOW has dropped 888 points in the past 2 days. The last time it dropped over 300 points over the course of 2 days was November 2008, and im sure you guys remember what happened then.
Just friday alone the plunge was 530 points, which is 9th worst single day drop in US history.
The worlds richest people are out of ~182 billion as a whole, all 401k's lost all gains for the year in a single day.
If i were you guys, id withdraw some money because tomorrow, or monday, you might just have none at all if the banks slide.
Hell, people are already saying they've been blocked from accessing their 401k's to withdraw money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_dNeQBWsr4
This guy breaks it down pretty well. Its worth a listen regardless of what your views are.

so if the worlds richest people are out 182 billion who got the money?

Big_Japan
09-11-2015, 10:38 PM
Two weeks into September. Let's check in on the markets.

Close Aug 31: 16526
Close Sept 11: 16433

Down less than 100 points so far. A few moderate spikes, about 50/50 up/down. When do the major spikes start and when do we get started with the huge drop off you predicted?

Can't wait for the fed to meet, decide not to raise interest rates, and watch the market rebound back to 18k+. Or maybe we'll both be wrong and the current sideways trend will continue.

Maybe they stopped posting because they're already sequestered in their survival bunkers, eating canned sardines and awaiting the inevitable destruction of the world.

This theory has the major happenings pegged for sometime mid-to-late September. This has been the case the entire time. Let's save the retrospective smugness for October 1.

Of course, if we don't see a collapse it could always be possible that since the goyim know they shut it down. That might buy us a month or two at least.

Orruar
09-12-2015, 12:21 AM
This theory has the major happenings pegged for sometime mid-to-late September. This has been the case the entire time. Let's save the retrospective smugness for October 1.

Of course, if we don't see a collapse it could always be possible that since the goyim know they shut it down. That might buy us a month or two at least.

Ah, already hedging your bets so when October 1 comes and the giant crash hasn't occurred, you can pretend like you knew it wasn't actually going to come. Why would I save the retrospective smugness for October 1 when you'll then say "let's save the retrospective smugness for November 1, though if the Illuminati catches on, they may delay it another month"?

JayDee
09-12-2015, 01:10 AM
will happen sometime between september 2015'-2025'

bubur
09-12-2015, 02:32 AM
I lost ~7$ in the laundry the other day.

fucking lumi's, i swear. every time

Ranndom
09-12-2015, 08:26 PM
Lol that's why Ranndom and Shift stopped posting here, because ain't none of that shit happening. October will arrive stock market will still be fine and no alien invasions on the horizon

i stopped posting because ive been watching everything go as expected. Chances are ill update this in a couple days when shit will probably break loose again

Ranndom
09-12-2015, 08:28 PM
so if the worlds richest people are out 182 billion who got the money?

Haha, thats a question ive yet seen answered. Wish i knew

Big_Japan
09-12-2015, 08:43 PM
Ah, already hedging your bets so when October 1 comes and the giant crash hasn't occurred, you can pretend like you knew it wasn't actually going to come. Why would I save the retrospective smugness for October 1 when you'll then say "let's save the retrospective smugness for November 1, though if the Illuminati catches on, they may delay it another month"?

Let's not get too triggered little buddy, I was being facetious. Rather telling that you explode in misdirected anger even at jokes though.

Efwan
09-13-2015, 12:02 AM
i stopped posting because ive been watching everything go as expected. Chances are ill update this in a couple days when shit will probably break loose again

nothing has broke loose

Pokesan
09-13-2015, 02:03 AM
Let's not get too triggered little buddy, I was being facetious. Rather telling that you explode in misdirected anger even at jokes though.

This theory has the major happenings pegged for sometime mid-to-late September. This has been the case the entire time. Let's save the retrospective smugness for October 1.

Of course, if we don't see a collapse it could always be possible that since the goyim know they shut it down. That might buy us a month or two at least.

check out these awesome jokes Big Japan threw down. gasp gasp I can't breathe I'm guffawing so hard at his razor wit. goddamn these are good jokes

Big_Japan
09-13-2015, 02:47 AM
check out these awesome jokes Big Japan threw down. gasp gasp I can't breathe I'm guffawing so hard at his razor wit. goddamn these are good jokes

he doesn't realize he's the punchline

http://i58.tinypic.com/2zs2mnl.jpg

Orruar
09-13-2015, 09:00 AM
Let's not get too triggered little buddy, I was being facetious. Rather telling that you explode in misdirected anger even at jokes though.

I'm not sure how you interpreted any of what I said as coming from a place of anger. You seem delusional.

Ranndom
09-13-2015, 09:35 AM
nothing has broke loose

You really are just absolutely clueless aren't you?
You're the idiot in the parking lot of a football stadium preaching this is the worst game you've ever seen, you do realize that, right?

Efwan
09-13-2015, 02:02 PM
You really are just absolutely clueless aren't you?
You're the idiot in the parking lot of a football stadium preaching this is the worst game you've ever seen, you do realize that, right?

Nah man my aggies are having a hell of a year so far

Big_Japan
09-13-2015, 06:09 PM
also it's pretty funny that all the you naysayers are ignoring the rocket strapped to the ongoing collapse of Europe this month (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3232744/We-t-German-authorities-call-urgent-action-migrant-crisis-locals-say-Munich-brink-humanitarian-disaster.html). What, they aren't talking about it on ABCNews.com?

phacemeltar
09-13-2015, 08:06 PM
great the "collapse" of an industry based on nothing. i hope the flames are pretty as the world burns

Nuggie
09-13-2015, 08:18 PM
At some point the whole thing will need reset. Fiat currencies, heh.

Orruar
09-15-2015, 04:28 PM
Anyone who looked into my original post would know september is going to be a month of major spikes. The majority of which will be lows.
Were really just getting started.

Close Aug 31: 16526
Close Sept 15: 16599

Halfway through the month and the dow has been fairly stable compared to this summer, and is now up a little under half a percent on the month. When are we "just getting started" on anything other than a sideways holding pattern?

Orruar
09-15-2015, 04:30 PM
i stopped posting because ive been watching everything go as expected. Chances are ill update this in a couple days when shit will probably break loose again

It's been a couple days. You know, if you keep predicting "there will be a big drop in the next couple days", you'll eventually have to be right. Just hang in there buddy.

Knuckle
09-16-2015, 12:12 AM
i just saw a big drop











in the toilet









homemade calzones












made from sour cream and ricotta cheese

Orruar
09-17-2015, 03:11 PM
Can't wait for the fed to meet, decide not to raise interest rates, and watch the market rebound back to 18k+. Or maybe we'll both be wrong and the current sideways trend will continue.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/17/us-usa-fed-idUSKCN0RH0GH20150917

Well look at that, the Fed decided not to raise interest rates (despite 95% of economists predicting a September raise just a month ago). The market rebound isn't huge, though the REITs are doing quite well with the news that their borrowing costs will stay low for the foreseeable future. Glad I took the gamble and put money into them while the market was spooked about impending interest rate hikes.

Anyone who looked into my original post would know september is going to be a month of major spikes. The majority of which will be lows.
Were really just getting started.

You still in your bunker? It's safe to come out now. You can stop eating canned sardines for the time being.

Big_Japan
09-17-2015, 04:06 PM
so whens the big september collapse hapnin yall???? (https://youtu.be/ZzMzoo4KvuE)

better click before you know who shuts it down :^)

PlatLordlolz
09-17-2015, 05:01 PM
so whens the big september collapse hapnin yall???? (https://youtu.be/ZzMzoo4KvuE)

better click before you know who shuts it down :^)

PlatLordlolz says to the immigrants "youve ruined your own lands! youll not ruin mine!"

Pokesan
09-18-2015, 12:59 AM
less than a week until the fiscal holocaust boys

make sure to stock up on chili, it's a really good food

JayN
09-18-2015, 01:12 AM
obongo came and took my guns away!

Ranndom
09-18-2015, 03:04 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/17/us-usa-fed-idUSKCN0RH0GH20150917

Well look at that, the Fed decided not to raise interest rates


The last major time this happened was 1927. We all know what happened next. History is just following the road to repeating itself...Will it commit? Who knows. But its on that road.

Ranndom
09-18-2015, 03:07 PM
obongo came and took my guns away!

Obongo visited Sudan earlier this month.
Just the other day a 14 year old Sudanese kid who is related to one of the Sudanese presidential candidates just happens to bring a "briefcase clock" to school and is then invited to the white house and some google science fair or some shit. ....Not drawing any conclusions, but the connections are there

Ranndom
09-18-2015, 03:10 PM
Close Aug 31: 16526
Close Sept 15: 16599

Halfway through the month and the dow has been fairly stable compared to this summer, and is now up a little under half a percent on the month. When are we "just getting started" on anything other than a sideways holding pattern?

fairly stable? we set a record for 1 and 2 day point drops, shit, just this morning it seemingly dropped 200 points for no damn reason and everyone is kinda scratching their heads about why. Chinese market is still all screwed up to no end, and yes, their market has a major effect on ours as we do theirs.

Orruar
09-22-2015, 11:57 AM
fairly stable? we set a record for 1 and 2 day point drops, shit, just this morning it seemingly dropped 200 points for no damn reason and everyone is kinda scratching their heads about why. Chinese market is still all screwed up to no end, and yes, their market has a major effect on ours as we do theirs.

Records weren't based on % drops, which is all that matters. If your stock market is at 16k, it's going to have larger point swings than a market at 6k. That's math.

Less than 24 hours until the supposed financial holocaust. I'd offer to take bets (I'm betting no disaster happens tomorrow), but I'm not taking payment in canned goods.

iruinedyourday
09-22-2015, 01:14 PM
Is this some kinf of Y2K thread? Guess were doomed cus these the end is nigh freakouts always follow through dont they.

Efwan
09-23-2015, 02:39 AM
Obongo visited Sudan earlier this month.
Just the other day a 14 year old Sudanese kid who is related to one of the Sudanese presidential candidates just happens to bring a "briefcase clock" to school and is then invited to the white house and some google science fair or some shit. ....Not drawing any conclusions, but the connections are there

Wrong wrong wrong. And yes stock market stable and I have more money then ever, oh the end of time is near LOL

simp403
09-23-2015, 11:28 AM
Posting from my bug-out bunker. Have people started eating each other yet?

surf3001x
09-23-2015, 12:27 PM
it has to be tiring being so paranoid all the time.

Pokesan
09-23-2015, 12:36 PM
alas babylon

the silos have opened. the smoke trails ascend. we are t-minus 15:00 until first impact. pray for your children. the chair is against the wall.

snapped this last photo before sealing up the bunker, may god have mercy on us all!

http://i.imgur.com/etjgJ2D.jpg

Orruar
10-01-2015, 09:23 AM
Anyone who looked into my original post would know september is going to be a month of major spikes. The majority of which will be lows.
Were really just getting started.

Aug 31 close - 16,526
Sept 2, 10am, Ranndom makes his prediction - 16,229
Sept 30 close - 16,284

So markets were mostly unchanged for the month and up slightly from the time you made this prediction to the end of the month. Don't quit your day job, unless you're in the investing industry.

Big_Japan
10-01-2015, 07:15 PM
Aug 31 close - 16,526
Sept 2, 10am, Ranndom makes his prediction - 16,229
Sept 30 close - 16,284

So markets were mostly unchanged for the month and up slightly from the time you made this prediction to the end of the month. Don't quit your day job, unless you're in the investing industry.

to restate Lion's theorem of identity, mad = bad = fat. I therefore infer from this post that you are bad as well as fat.

Orruar
11-25-2015, 05:20 PM
This theory has the major happenings pegged for sometime mid-to-late September. This has been the case the entire time. Let's save the retrospective smugness for October 1.

Of course, if we don't see a collapse it could always be possible that since the goyim know they shut it down. That might buy us a month or two at least.

So is it time to now be retrospectively smug? Markets up over 1000 points since September when you and Ranndom were doing your chicken little routine, and you said that we might buy a month or two. It's been 2 months now and no economic collapse. Did the crab people intervene on our behalf?

KagatobLuvsAnimu
11-25-2015, 07:09 PM
Called that nuffin would happen.

Lu|zSect
11-25-2015, 07:34 PM
Called that nuffin would happen.
https://static.ylilauta.org/files/af/orig/hits7xsw/anime%20pro.jpg

KagatobLuvsAnimu
11-26-2015, 12:43 AM
tries to be hypermasculine

Citation needed.

Pokesan
11-26-2015, 12:52 AM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/image.php?u=118081&dateline=1434568234&type=thumb

near as i can tell, that's the youtube man kaga gets all his opinions from

4chan is really culty these days :(

KagatobLuvsAnimu
11-26-2015, 01:51 AM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/image.php?u=118081&dateline=1434568234&type=thumb

and your sig is lol :(

Citation needed.
__________________
I'd like to build the world a site and furnish it with porn.~
Draw hentai pix and girls with dix and tentacles galore~
I'd like to teach the world to fap, in perfect harmony~
I'd like to show you dirty toons, for all eternity~
-Zone 2012

ok first off. Are you implying that Adam Sessler has a single masculine quality to him? He's the epitome of SJW beta males.

Secondly, Weaboo crap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKliOK3ofsg) lyrics is "abandoning my anime presence" now. Interesting.

That's IRYD lvl failure.

George_Costanza
11-26-2015, 02:24 AM
captain the rustleometer is beeping so madly i think it may be malfunctioning

what should i do???

NachtMystium
11-26-2015, 01:58 PM
http://www.project1999.com/forums/image.php?u=118081&dateline=1434568234&type=thumb

and your sig is lol :(

Citation needed.
__________________
I'd like to build the world a site and furnish it with porn.~
Draw hentai pix and girls with dix and tentacles galore~
I'd like to teach the world to fap, in perfect harmony~
I'd like to show you dirty toons, for all eternity~
-Zone 2012


lol adam sessler is so masculine, and anime weeaboo lyrics are more cringey than actual anime, i don't think he's abandoned anything. wow you got rekt hard with this one

Efwan
11-26-2015, 04:07 PM
Called that nuffin would happen.

Dawg I think I called it before you. Ranndom is an idiot hence why he doesn't show his face around here anymore

KagatobLuvsAnimu
11-26-2015, 04:21 PM
I just saw a bald guy on roids and vegan crackers + creepy angry pervy rape lyrics.

Coke*

Also there's nothing angry or rapey there. You'd of broken Stretch Armstrong at this point.

AzzarTheGod
11-26-2015, 04:43 PM
Obongo visited Sudan earlier this month.
Just the other day a 14 year old Sudanese kid who is related to one of the Sudanese presidential candidates just happens to bring a "briefcase clock" to school and is then invited to the white house and some google science fair or some shit. ....Not drawing any conclusions, but the connections are there

I don't think obama is "knowledgable" about this prop stunt. His advisors and handlers set this garbage up for him.

The bomb kid sucks, I listened to his interview and the police testimony and read the report. The kid treated the officers like shit, he clearly tried to get suspended and was a wise ass cheeky cunt.

Then Suckerberg offers him an "internship". puke

Treats
11-26-2015, 07:11 PM
This was a funny read in September.

Just kept thinking to myself, what a dipshit.