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Spenny121
08-13-2015, 03:45 PM
Is anyone actually dumb enough to be buying these at 100k like the flooded EC forum suggests? I can see the top raiding guilds getting a few for the advantage, but with a list of over 100 people I'd figure they'd already have them.


I do enjoy all the crying in every post about selling them, but you see them for sale more than anything else has been for sale in the entire history of this server. They're not rare, they're not hard to get, and by the time 6 months rolls around there will be more beads than characters on the server.

I guess it's no harder to believe than idiots signing up to be on a camp list thats over 100 people long.

Swish
08-13-2015, 03:50 PM
queue like everyone else

Tasslehofp99
08-13-2015, 03:52 PM
bought mine for 35k last week

Pringles
08-13-2015, 04:25 PM
The people saying they're selling them for 100k are full of it and just trying to inflate prices. No one with 100k is dumb enough to pay that for them.

They are camped 24x7, Im going to be conservative and say 5 drop a day (but I would be its closer to 10 or more). Lets call it 10 days camped so far, over 50 beads on the server at least - and they will drop for a minimum of 6 months.

Yeah.... 100k.... right.

captnamazing
08-13-2015, 04:36 PM
i won't sell my precious anal beads for a plat less than 100,000. no worries if they don't get bought cause idgaf! ;)

Ella`Ella
08-13-2015, 04:37 PM
No one is actually paying 100k, brother.

I bought a pair last week for 15k and another pair yesterday for 17k. Read the posts in some of those WTS threads - most of the pro-high price commenters are in the same guild as the seller, just trying to help them boost the price.

Don't be dum.

captnamazing
08-13-2015, 04:40 PM
wts holgresh elder anus beads

100k

Kushie
08-13-2015, 04:42 PM
Half of that money is mine, beieooootch

Pringles
08-13-2015, 05:16 PM
Oh man.... LOL at all these kids saying "selling elder beads", so I ask how much, "80k". OK GL. "I wont need it, last ones I sold for 100k"

http://memecrunch.com/meme/15MXY/anchorman/image.png


So you're telling me that there are 20 people on this server that are selling a second set of beads? Because thats the 20th time I have heard "i just sold my last set for 100k, so I wont have a hard time getting XX"

Even if this were true, about already selling a second set, this would just confirm the market is already saturated.

GL with your 100k folks! These drop like candy and are worth *maybe* 15k now, and every day that even that 15k slips. These are not rare.

Swish
08-13-2015, 05:20 PM
If someone wants to pay me 10k I'll happily sit in the tunnel and auction them for 150k knowing I won't get a sale just to manipulate the price. Deal?

lol, this community.

Faywind
08-13-2015, 05:24 PM
The people saying they're selling them for 100k are full of it and just trying to inflate prices. No one with 100k is dumb enough to pay that for them.

They are camped 24x7, Im going to be conservative and say 5 drop a day (but I would be its closer to 10 or more). Lets call it 10 days camped so far, over 50 beads on the server at least - and they will drop for a minimum of 6 months.

Yeah.... 100k.... right.

Not worth 100K but you are definately not getting 10 in a day. I would say on average 1 drops every 8 hours from my experience of actually being at that horrible camp lol.

Ele
08-13-2015, 05:25 PM
young carpetbaggers

Kushie
08-13-2015, 05:25 PM
Why are you so mad about people's asking price Pons? They can ask for a million pp if they want, doesn't mean they'll sell it. Lowballing them and then forumquesting about it doesn't teach them anything, it just makes them hate you.

That being said, i'd value the elder beads at around 45-60k given the time needed to farm them. This is my gut instinct on the price, no historical data references.

Itap
08-13-2015, 05:27 PM
What happened to you, swish?

mr_jon3s
08-13-2015, 05:27 PM
So what exactly is the exploit these are used for? I think I remember hearing necros/sks could lifetap them or something.

Ele
08-13-2015, 05:30 PM
So what exactly is the exploit these are used for? I think I remember hearing necros/sks could lifetap them or something.

One of many questionable usages.

Pringles
08-13-2015, 05:30 PM
Why are you so mad about people's asking price Pons? They can ask for a million pp if they want, doesn't mean they'll sell it. Lowballing them and then forumquesting about it doesn't teach them anything, it just makes them hate you.

That being said, i'd value the elder beads at around 45-60k given the time needed to farm them. This is my gut instinct on the price, no historical data references.

I'm not mad at all - I just think bullshit they try to pull to sell them is amazing :)

Also I don't care if EC tunnel nerds hate me.

Pringles
08-13-2015, 05:33 PM
Not worth 100K but you are definately not getting 10 in a day. I would say on average 1 drops every 8 hours from my experience of actually being at that horrible camp lol.

OK so 4-5 per day isnt out of whack, lets roll with that - that puts us near or over 50 on the server already then, and that number will climb daily - for 6 months of 24x7 camping these :)

#tunnelquest2015

Rararboker
08-13-2015, 05:33 PM
There is that and the eye is good for pulling. Don't have to keep stalking probes on hand and keep them recharged.

indiscriminate_hater
08-13-2015, 05:47 PM
typical BDA price gouging

captnamazing
08-13-2015, 05:56 PM
Wts elder beads 150k

Kushie
08-13-2015, 06:17 PM
I'll give you 10kpp and a furry footjob

captnamazing
08-13-2015, 06:20 PM
i'll give u my beads for free if u want them kushie

jdixon485
08-13-2015, 06:54 PM
Just sold a set for yet another fungi, and another for 80k - ppl pay what they value them at, QQ more or wait to buy em for cheaper until later

Kushie
08-13-2015, 06:56 PM
It only took 16 hours for my beads to drop.

Pringles
08-13-2015, 07:19 PM
Just sold a set for yet another fungi, and another for 80k - ppl pay what they value them at, QQ more or wait to buy em for cheaper until later

Dropping like candy for you then if you're selling so many, grats!

P.S. I dont believe you ;)

in all fairness I did sell one for 40k, just not too him.

JayDee
08-13-2015, 07:28 PM
There are great injustices happening in this world. Broken bfg quest for instance.

Plus, you're must making yourself look like a petty little bitch

Pokesan
08-13-2015, 07:42 PM
Just sold a set for yet another fungi, and another for 80k - ppl pay what they value them at, QQ more or wait to buy em for cheaper until later

just sold my fourth beads for 300k and six fungis, you got lowballed my friend!

bead prices going up uP UP!!!

Rararboker
08-13-2015, 07:45 PM
I got 3 BCG, you guys are going too cheap.

Mojo24
08-13-2015, 10:52 PM
Sellers are still desperate.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206177

Check out this EC post, someone is legitimately waiting until Friday 9am to buy the beads for 122k. He is so set about buying them from this guy at the reasonable price of 122k that he's passd up all the terrible, lower priced beads that sold today.

Pringles
08-14-2015, 11:18 AM
Sellers are still desperate.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206177

Check out this EC post, someone is legitimately waiting until Friday 9am to buy the beads for 122k. He is so set about buying them from this guy at the reasonable price of 122k that he's passd up all the terrible, lower priced beads that sold today.

Its entertaining to be sure.

Spenny121
08-14-2015, 11:32 AM
No one is paying him 122k for them. There's been a ton for sale in EC for 30-50k and even those don't sell. If someone has an offer on these for 122k you're the biggest clown on the planet not to take it. Hell, I'd feel guilty posting a lie that obvious on the forums.

I can guarantee if he actually has an offer, someone is screwing with him and he's too stupid to realize it. He's gonna post today that his 122k offer fell through and hes looking to sell it again for 100k.

A common item that is camped 24/7 that can be replaced by a 1.5pp/charge clicky is not something you want to hold onto to gain value when it's still going to drop for 6 months.

I do however thank the community of idiots trying to gouge the price of them for reminding me to pick up some probes. I'd forgotten about those.

Swish
08-14-2015, 11:34 AM
It's obviously a troll or someone trying to hike prices by pointing to that post.

EconomyQuest breaking ridiculous new levels of cringe.

Pringles
08-14-2015, 11:40 AM
Now they are creating multiple accounts to try to inflate prices? LOL....

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2009419&postcount=9

Pyrrhica
08-14-2015, 12:58 PM
Now they are creating multiple accounts to try to inflate prices? LOL....

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2009419&postcount=9

Those assholes should be banned from the trading forum

am0n
08-14-2015, 01:00 PM
Now they are creating multiple accounts to try to inflate prices? LOL....

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2009419&postcount=9

Hey now! That account is 2 weeks old. Clearly they've had time to gather 95k...

Spenny121
08-14-2015, 01:48 PM
Hey now! That account is 2 weeks old. Clearly they've had time to gather 95k...

Maybe he's too embarassed to post on his main account that he's dumb enough to spend 95k on it. However I feel that I'd just send a PM at that point. Who's going to take the time to create a separate account just to post a 95k offer on a thread. Definitely forum ban these kids if the posts came from the same source IP. Delete the beads too, they can go back to the end of the 150 person human centipede line of neckbeards.

Skydash
08-14-2015, 01:51 PM
queue like everyone else

Queue Queue

baalzy
08-14-2015, 02:02 PM
http://www.monkly-business.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-8629.html

Kinda seems like the elders are spawning too slow and the beads are not dropping enough anyways.

The beads are the rare drop off the Holgresh Elders. It takes most people 5-6 hours of killing elders to get a drop. People do sell them, but very rarely, and for around 1.5 - 2K from what I have seen. Some may be able to get them cheaper if the seller does not know the true potential worth of them to a monk !!.


Then theres this post in the same thread (after they stopped dropping).


Well I just tried to get myself a set of Elder beads and boy did it SUCK. I logged in and started the camp at 10am pst on 9/5 and ended at 3:30am pst 9/6. In the 17 and a half hours I was there, I cleared the entire 8 or so spawns in the holgresh cave non stop.



In that time, 3 Grand Viziers spawns, 6 Raiders and 51 Elders. The grand vizier NEVER dropped the Holgresh Grand Vizier beads, while 5 of the elders dropped the vizier beads. Out of the 51 elder spawns, not one elder bead dropped.



This is very very disappointing, as I can only assume that Verant went and f'd up the loot tables, by moving the Vizier beads to the elder table and taking said beads off the Vizier table. I am pretty po'd that I just wasted 17 and a half hours at a camp that Verant could have simply put a message in the patch saying they changed it. I for one do not believe that the elder beads drop anymore from the talks I have had with other monks over the past week when they attempted to get them too. /F-U Verant!


If we assume that the spawn rate didn't change and we assume that the beads were just switched in the drop table. This basically boils down to ~10% spawn rate (one popping every 20 minutes with 8 of them on a 14.5min timer) and a ~10% drop rate (5 dropping out of 51 spawns).

Spenny121
08-14-2015, 02:11 PM
Even at that *low* rate, that's 10% drop, 3 elders per hour, so essentially 1 bead drop per 3.3~ hours. Even if we put this at say, 4 hours to round up, thats still 6 beads per day since its perma camped. That's over 1000 sets of beads by the time they're removed 6 months post Velious.

Kids trying to make it seem like they're rarer than they are to cash in.

baalzy
08-14-2015, 02:14 PM
Keep in mind Spenny, that's just inside the cave.

There are 6 outside spawns that are on a 7min repop and two more spawns on a 14 min repop.

So essentially another 14 possible spawns in the same time frame as farming the inside of the cave. So, basically doubling the rate.

baalzy
08-14-2015, 02:15 PM
*more than doubling the rate.

Kit Su
08-15-2015, 12:26 AM
No one is paying him 122k for them. There's been a ton for sale in EC for 30-50k and even those don't sell. If someone has an offer on these for 122k you're the biggest clown on the planet not to take it. Hell, I'd feel guilty posting a lie that obvious on the forums.

I can guarantee if he actually has an offer, someone is screwing with him and he's too stupid to realize it. He's gonna post today that his 122k offer fell through and hes looking to sell it again for 100k.

A common item that is camped 24/7 that can be replaced by a 1.5pp/charge clicky is not something you want to hold onto to gain value when it's still going to drop for 6 months.

I do however thank the community of idiots trying to gouge the price of them for reminding me to pick up some probes. I'd forgotten about those.

You were right =( All offers were fake, ended up selling it for 500plat and a holgresh wing

Kit Su
08-15-2015, 12:36 AM
oh any my last 100k sale was in copper, sorry, my bad i totally forgot :/ My old age is truly getting me confused, if it wasn't for you younger mature generation i may actually have believed i sold it for 100k plat, that would have been embarrassing.

Thanks guys!

EVocati
08-15-2015, 03:17 AM
Pringle,
while I understand your skepticism, I personally counted 130 Elder Holgresh kills prior to seeing a drop in the cave.... that's 10 spawns at 7min repops with an extra spawn in the center on a 2hour timer. To get to 130 Elders, it took 26 hours. Admittedly, I don't have statistics from the whole zone, but the cave (which has your 100 person list) isn't yielding 5 a day.

You can come on the forums and express your outrage at price gouging (they're not worth 100k yet) and paint your self as a Geisha or you can move on to something more interesting, but the reality is that 5 is probably being overly optimistic on a daily basis.

EVocati
08-15-2015, 03:19 AM
Pringle,
while I understand your skepticism, I personally counted 130 Elder Holgresh kills prior to seeing a drop in the cave.... that's 10 spawns at 7min repops with an extra spawn in the center on a 2hour timer. To get to 130 Elders, it took 26 hours. Admittedly, I don't have statistics from the whole zone, but the cave (which has your 100 person list) isn't yielding 5 a day.

You can come on the forums and express your outrage at price gouging (they're not worth 100k yet) and paint your self as a Geisha or you can move on to something more interesting, but the reality is that 5 is probably being overly optimistic on a daily basis.

Admittedly, I've seen them drop in less than an hour (or in Filbius' case, 25min... but that was after watching Nejinmy camp them for 15 hours+)

Rayzor84
08-15-2015, 07:50 AM
Someone would have to be an absolute fool to buy these for more than 20k, and that's only for a convenience of dodging that list.

The market is quickly becoming saturated. The most sold item right now is the holgresh elder beads. Once the novelty wears off and even MORE show up in EC, the price will go down and people won't be as stupid.

Personally I'd rather poopsock this item than lay more than 10k myself, but that's coming from a chanter epic poopsocker so this ain't shit.

Nextwave
08-15-2015, 10:08 AM
It's obviously a troll or someone trying to hike prices by pointing to that post.

EconomyQuest breaking ridiculous new levels of cringe.

HarrisonDeliSlicer
08-15-2015, 12:31 PM
I bought my pair for 123k,,, got a good deal - thanks OP.

ddxdy
08-15-2015, 12:32 PM
So what happens to the list after a server reset?

Valerik
08-15-2015, 12:48 PM
Admittedly, I've seen them drop in less than an hour (or in Filbius' case, 25min... but that was after watching Nejinmy camp them for 15 hours+)

It can be a terrible camp. I camped it 24 hours this past week with no beads.

Phantasm
08-15-2015, 01:01 PM
Why would the list change ? Waited on that list checking it now and then to see where I was. When I got to 5th I started to care. By the time I obtained the cave/list the beads dropped for me in 2 hours.

Now I haz eyeballz on the lowz

schnickusaurus
08-16-2015, 04:58 AM
Resellers are buying at 40-50k btw ;p thats funny ! :D