Stormfeather

[Southpaws]

I log into Iceclad last night with intentions of getting Stormfeather. Hasn't popped in over 60 hours so I know now is my chance camp is open because many believed IC was bugged due to reloading of IC to remove planks.

Camp it for around 12 hours without literally anyone trying to contest it people run up hill see me there and either run back down to docks or sit next to me and /camp.
Then Koony shows up, the most annoying person I ever met in game. This doesn't surprise me since the first thing he says to me is how he just got off being suspended for a week.

Koony at first respects my camp and tells me hes going to wait it out to get a time of death. That lasts for about an hour or two then he just starts spamming SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS on my screen. Spams me with see invis, spams Jboots, continually opens trade with me and spams inspects me. Kid is a confirmed 12 year old.

Anyway at hour 72 the max time according to http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?119778-Iceclad-Ocean-a-few-questions&p=1091005&viewfull=1 Sf pops.

It was 4:20:34 exact, we both engaged him at that exact time-stamp. Toolbag obviously isn't even in melee range and uses his midnight hammer. I was standing exactly right on his spawn spot and get the kill.

Well after that I get a tell from Koony telling me i'm banned. Along with Koony, I get at-least 7 other hate tells from other members of HK who weren't even in the zone, yet felt the need to tell me they petitioned and reported me also.

Can we get any confirmation on this camp. This is ridiculous this needs to be a camp not FTE. Shadownights with a pet up, or literally anyone can just sit on the spawn spot AFK and SF pops and will instant aggro them getting them FTE when they aren't even at the PC.

Anyway if I get banned or suspended it was well worth it as long as Koony is delayed to get his Epop.

TL;DR Stormfeather should be a camp and Koony is a confirmed 12 year old.

[wormed]

This story sounds like there were 8 12 year olds.

[HarrisonDeliSlicer]

That lasts for about an hour or two then he just starts spamming SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS on my screen. Spams me with see invis, spams Jboots, continually opens trade with me and spams inspects me. Kid is a confirmed 12 year old.

My kinda guy! Kony2012!!

[koryu]

FTE is life

[Valerik]

That lasts for about an hour or two then he just starts spamming SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS on my screen.

Koony confirmed teapot.

[masternook]

Lets not forget you getting mad after 8 hours at camp and saying "lifes to short to be spending here waiting on 1 mob" then camping for 5 hours. http://i.imgur.com/lWp4fYa.jpg

SssssSSsssss Im a lizard dont hate my roleplay

[Sallan]

Pending update:

Added fte messages to Lodizal and Stormfeather

If this is anything to go by I'm guessing Nilbog is expecting this to be an FTE engagement. However, I personally feel like most other things social, camps should be respected. Sadly that gesture doesn't always get reciprocated

[Kushie]

Haggard Krew is earning their douchebag reputation.

GUILD POLICY

DON'T BE A DICK.

DON'T BE A PUSSY.

IF YOU CAN'T FOLLOW 1. OR 2. /GUILDREMOVE (OR WE WILL DO IT FOR YOU)

[koryu]

Haggard Krew is earning their douchebag reputation.

I'm sorry, is that a BDA member talking about other people being douchebags....?

[Altereagle]

I see an engage message. So it's an FTE camp. To be a dick at an FTE camp you would have to not get FTE then kill steal.

A pussy would make a post on a public forum to make a big deal of something that is remarkably unexceptional.

Koony, 50 dkp minus for roleplaying.
50 dkp plus for getting FTE at an FTE camp.

[Xallis]

SsssSSSSssssSSSSSssss

[Overthetop]

Then Koony shows up, the most annoying person I ever met in game. This doesn't surprise me since the first thing he says to me is how he just got off being suspended for a week.

suspend again for harassment

-50dkp for being out dps when trying to steal a camp
could be snaj

[indiscriminate_hater]

lol Haggard Krew

just uninstall already

[Valerik]

lol Haggard Krew

just uninstall already

http://replygif.net/i/255.gif

[Merekai]

Right thing to do upon encountering someone who has been at the camp for hours and hours should be to let the person putting in the time have their shot. I realize there will still be FTE races, but this is the right thing to do for a camp like this that is inherently long and frustrating. This is P99 though so more than likely you'll always get people pushing it to a FTE-a-thon.

Chev

[HalasHermit]

So if there is an engage message it seems safe to conclude its a FTE race.

Yes common courtesy would dictate something at least talked about if someone has been camping for 489239482 hours.

That said, even if it was a normal camp without FTE yellow text, wouldn't Southpaws have given up the camp by logging out for 5 hours after he had been there for 8?

Genuinely curious here.

[Southpaws]

So if there is an engage message it seems safe to conclude its a FTE race.

Yes common courtesy would dictate something at least talked about if someone has been camping for 489239482 hours.

That said, even if it was a normal camp without FTE yellow text, wouldn't Southpaws have given up the camp by logging out for 5 hours after he had been there for 8?

Genuinely curious here.

It was clear that Koony was there to steal mob. This is irrelevant I was still there camping alone, Koony left the zone and went to Misty for about an hour. He returned about a n hour before Storm popped.

[Wed Aug 12 14:19:03 2015] Koony says, 'dont worry im back '
[Wed Aug 12 14:19:05 2015] Koony hugs Southpaws.

[Valerik]

If it were a static spawn I would tend to agree. But it's not, it's a mob with a 6 hour variance that has a chance to skip spawns making it high contested.

[Valerik]

Just so we're clear, I meant to quote HalasHermit.

[HalasHermit]

So if you both left for a prolonged amount of time (hour plus) and its a yellow text mob, what's the issue here?

[contemptor]

It was clear that Koony was there to steal mob. This is irrelevant I was still there camping alone, Koony left the zone and went to Misty for about an hour. He returned about a n hour before Storm popped.

[Wed Aug 12 14:19:03 2015] Koony says, 'dont worry im back '
[Wed Aug 12 14:19:05 2015] Koony hugs Southpaws.
If it's FTE message there is no stealing. It's not a camp as decided by GMs.

[Ambrotos]

When can we get FTE messages on Pyzjn?

[Pokesan]

good god BDA can you not control yourselves for even a week?

[HalasHermit]

Anyway if I get banned or suspended it was well worth it as long as Koony is delayed to get his Epop.

.

Saying getting banned is well worth since the other person didn't get the pixels.

Someone needs some outside time.

[Kushie]

I thought this thread was about the angsty band of rejects who call themselves <Haggard Krew>?

Oh and someone is mad about losing FTE.

[billy87711]

Zzzz... i dont understand why ppls need to be a dick in a old , private server game. lol. seriously, grow up.

[Swish]

I thought this thread was about the angsty band of rejects who call themselves <Haggard Krew>?

Oh and someone is mad about losing FTE.

Kushie hulking up in another thread :rolleyes:

[Itap]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171063&highlight=southpaws

Here is a thread of you doing the exact same shit over AC.

FTE message was added to SF, therefore making him FTE. It doesn't matter if he showed up 3 seconds before SF spawns and got FTE, it's his mob.

[koryu]

I thought this thread was about the angsty band of rejects who call themselves <Haggard Krew>?

Oh and someone is mad about losing FTE.

Coming from the guild that was literally afraid to go into VP until ramp/forskin left.

Were you guys afraid of losing your bodies? Why not just ...try?

Class C so scary =(((

[Lojik]

This kinda shit is why I don't login

[Skew]

What time zone are you?

[cassmoneys]

Can we all take a moment to acknowledge the Taylor Swift profile picture Southpaws is using. She just wants to have bad blood because of our problems and clearly we can't solve em.

[Sajan]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171063&highlight=southpaws

Here is a thread of you doing the exact same shit over AC.

FTE message was added to SF, therefore making him FTE. It doesn't matter if he showed up 3 seconds before SF spawns and got FTE, it's his mob.

YikeS! Karma

[Uuruk]

Wouldn't have had this problem on red.

[Corpsed]

Wouldn't have had this problem on red.

Are you a bot?

[Uuruk]

Are you a bot?

No, I kill people who roll up on my camps instead of make threads on the forums telling everybody I'm terrible at everquest.

[Corpsed]

No, I kill people who roll up on my camps instead of make threads on the forums telling everybody I'm terrible at everquest.

When was the last time you killed someone who rolled up on your camp? Tell me about it. I am seriously interested.

[Samoht]

It's probably been months. Red is one entire PVE zergling guild without competition.

[Ella`Ella]

It's probably been months. Red is one entire PVE zergling guild without competition.

You know Empire raids with fewer members on average than Rampage, Forsaken, BDA, Taken, etc...?

[Uuruk]

When was the last time you killed someone who rolled up on your camp? Tell me about it. I am seriously interested.

Elder beads just the other day

[Samoht]

You know Empire raids with fewer members on average than Rampage, Forsaken, BDA, Taken, etc...?

We'll have to take your word for it, but it's not about total numbers. It's the percentage of the player base. When Empire takes 60 people on a raid, that's more than half of the total server pop. And the other half is probably other Empire members dodging the raid by camping Stormfeather, Holgresh Elder Beads, or idling afk in NFP.

Let me know when Rampage, Foresaken, BDA, or Taken start raiding with more than half of the total server pop of blue.

[Pringles]

Did we really need an FTE message broadcast to the zone for stormfeather? FFS.

[Pringles]

WTB FTE message on all shawl and ring mobs.

[Corpsed]

Elder beads just the other day

Someone came in your camp and you killed them? Who was it? That actually sounds like a good way to deal with it.

[Ella`Ella]

If he's an FTE mob and you were both tracking it then both you and your guilds need to eat a suspension.

The rules clearly state that trackers cannot get FTE on an FTE mob.

I will represent the highest bidder in PixelCourt. (BDA need not apply)

[Swish]

When Empire takes 60 people on a raid, that's more than half of the total server pop.

I've come across a few people at work who try to bullshit maths to me, they end up looking ridiculous. 250 nightly yet 60 is half the server... what a moran.

[indiscriminate_hater]

We'll have to take your word for it, but it's not about total numbers. It's the percentage of the player base. When Empire takes 60 people on a raid, that's more than half of the total server pop. And the other half is probably other Empire members dodging the raid by camping Stormfeather, Holgresh Elder Beads, or idling afk in NFP.

Let me know when Rampage, Foresaken, BDA, or Taken start raiding with more than half of the total server pop of blue.

1 - it is about total numbers. 60 is a lot less then Taken raiding Tormax with 120+
2 - when's the last time you looked at the home page of p99? server pop info hurrrr

another waste of forum space by Samoht

[Uuruk]

Yeah we have been in the 60's the last few raids. Feels right.

[Efwan]

You know Empire raids with fewer members on average than Rampage, Forsaken, BDA, Taken, etc...?

On the contrary, those guilds kill vindi, for example with about 4 groups. Empire brings 10+ (80+ in kael last night for vindi on a weekday at midnight)

[Uuruk]

On the contrary, those guilds kill vindi, for example with about 4 groups. Empire brings 10+ (80+ in kael last night for vindi on a weekday at midnight)

We have scheduled raid nights. Raiding at 9pm pst is so bad.

[shammyinz]

Hrm, you may have gotten the FTE, but then you FD'ed, giving up all FTE rights IMO!

[zanderklocke]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171063&highlight=southpaws

Here is a thread of you doing the exact same shit over AC.

FTE message was added to SF, therefore making him FTE. It doesn't matter if he showed up 3 seconds before SF spawns and got FTE, it's his mob.

Ha. That was 10 months ago. I forgot all about that thread.

[Itap]

Ha. That was 10 months ago. I forgot all about that thread.

The hypocrisy is astounding

[mattydef]

Stormfeather was a legit camp on bertox back in the day.

[Ruinous]

FTE on Stormfeather? LOL. So instead of dealing with the slight chance that someone is going to try to get away with stealing the camp from someone else, they implement a completely non-classic mechanic.

Sounds awesome! :rolleyes:

Removed buff timers but keeps adding on weird immersion-ruining mechanics like FTE on a solo camp quest mob.. I just, I don't even. :confused:

[Kushie]

That lasts for about an hour or two then he just starts spamming SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS on my screen. Spams me with see invis, spams Jboots, continually opens trade with me and spams inspects me. Kid is a confirmed 12 year old.


You need FTE messages when you have angsty children like this on the server. Working as intended.

[shammyinz]

FTE? WTS loot rights after I HT the mob for FTE! 5k flat rate. Seems like you just need a SK to win the camp imo

[Treats]

What the fuck is a Monk going to do with Eyepatch of Plunder???

[zanderklocke]

What the fuck is a Monk going to do with Eyepatch of Plunder???

Not sure if serious?

The stats are amazing for an item not dropped from a raid mob in Velious.

[arsenalpow]

Stormfeather should be a camp, just because it's highly prized doesn't mean FTE should apply. It's no different than Hadden. It spawns outdoors at a fixed location, and is easily soloable.

[mattydef]

Stormfeather being a camp is 100% classic, if they consider him FTE on this server maybe they should think about bringing luclin graphics back for people who prefer it?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Stormfeather should be a camp, just because it's highly prized doesn't mean FTE should apply. It's no different than Hadden. It spawns outdoors at a fixed location, and is easily soloable.

^ Same as tranix, too, when a high end camp became contestable they ruled it a camp last time and people never left.

[nyclin]

my opinion remains that adding FTE messages just makes people act like even bigger dicks

[arsenalpow]

^ Same as tranix, too, when a high end camp became contestable they ruled it a camp last time and people never left.

Then call it a camp with a queue you have to be present for like elder beads.

[Swish]

Then call it a camp with a queue you have to be present for like elder beads.

You have to be present at the elder bead camp now? When did that change?

#76 you're now #75 in line... lawl

[Kushie]

my opinion remains that adding FTE messages just makes people act like even bigger dicks

Haggard Krew doesn't need FTE messages to go full retard. They always go full retard.

[Itap]

You seem angry

[Confit]

Haggard Krew doesn't need FTE messages to go full retard. They always go full retard.

Forum search begs to differ.

[captnamazing]

meh haggard krew just doing what they usually do. inherent toxicity will acidify their core and eventually they will probably merge with Forsaken. U heard it here first folks #filbusprophet2015

[Kushie]

The Forsaken Order needs new angst monk pals fosho. Someone can teach Lazie how to pull.

[coki]

sounds like you deserve it after doing the same to me in sro AC lul

[Overthetop]

AC is a random spawn that can happen anywhere in half of a zone on any random night.
not sure why ac is compared here except you bring up a good point because when ac use to spawn in one location just like SF it was considered a camp.

[SamwiseRed]

shut up nerds.

[indiscriminate_hater]

haggard krew = incompetent boobs, stoners, and dumb high school jocks who can't hack in the real world

[WolfsongReborn]

Storm feather was considered a camp. Forever.

[12point]

haggard krew = incompetent boobs, stoners, and dumb high school jocks who can't hack in the real world

true, no hacks....because we don't know how

[nilbog]

If this is anything to go by I'm guessing Nilbog is expecting this to be an FTE engagement. However, I personally feel like most other things social, camps should be respected. Sadly that gesture doesn't always get reciprocated

I believe it should be a camp on the pve server. Unfortunately, I can't enforce that. It's up to the csr team to determine how to treat this camp.

Personally, I'd like it to be up to the players to keep a list, and it be respected.

[xer0xed]

ssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[Altereagle]

I believe it should be a camp on the pve server. Unfortunately, I can't enforce that. It's up to the csr team to determine how to treat this camp.

Personally, I'd like it to be up to the players to keep a list, and it be respected.

The last time the players tried to make a list and agreed to it, a variance was added. (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204858)

[captnamazing]

Pras nilbog non lawyer pras dev

[nilbog]

The last time the players tried to make a list and agreed to it, a variance was added. (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204858)

Variance being added had nothing to do with a list.

[Altereagle]

Variance being added had nothing to do with a list.

It brought the player run agreement to a halt, which is the type of negotiating you suggest we use to sort out issues.

It was a decision that was made without considering the player managed agreements that were being discussed, which is p99's prerogative, however, it kicks the wind out of the idea that player manage agreements will last without overarching intervention that could dissolve player agreements.

[bktroost]

It brought the player run agreement to a halt, which is the type of negotiating you suggest we use to sort out issues.

It was a decision that was made without considering the player managed agreements that were being discussed, which is p99's prerogative, however, it kicks the wind out of the idea that player manage agreements will last without overarching intervention that could dissolve player agreements.

Aka vindi.

Why do we keep thinking variance is the answer? Either just make it 3 real life days for everything so that no one poopsocks anything and it's all mobilization or remove it to like an hour so it's just not fastest connection FTE. What the heck is 16 hour variances good for? Why make stormfeather more difficult to get? Discourage lists and player made agreements or encourage them, but frankly the concept behind it all is confusing.

[nilbog]

It brought the player run agreement to a halt, which is the type of negotiating you suggest we use to sort out issues.

It was a decision that was made without considering the player managed agreements that were being discussed, which is p99's prerogative, however, it kicks the wind out of the idea that player manage agreements will last without overarching intervention that could dissolve player agreements.

I'm fairly certain none of the developers knew about any sort of player managed agreement for Vindicator. I didn't, at least.

That being said, it can be looked into again.

[bktroost]

For Vindi we had multiple channels going with full on discussion. Some in the raid thread, some on private forums and some in personal tells. We got every guild to sign saying that they were willing to come to the table to work out a system. The day that variance went in all communication came to a halt.

If it is removed, I assume communication will commence.

[Man0warr]

I like it the way it is now tbh - more about having a guildie or group in zone seeing it up and then mobilizing.

[Kushie]

He spawns too often for a dumb rotation.

[Pringles]

He spawns too often for a dumb rotation.

So we've been doing sky wrong all these years? Fuck.

[Ravager]

Instances and tokens.

[Altereagle]

Discourage lists and player made agreements or encourage them.

thumbs ^

[dafier]

Lets not forget you getting mad after 8 hours at camp and saying "lifes to short to be spending here waiting on 1 mob" then camping for 5 hours. http://i.imgur.com/lWp4fYa.jpg

SssssSSsssss Im a lizard dont hate my roleplay

In this particular situation I believe the CSRs need to look at the bigger picture here. It's not just about FTE, btw grats on accomplishing at least that Koon but I certainly hope the CSRs address the child-like talk and actions of all whom are involved.

Cheers :rolleyes:

[Robbintha Hood]

Haggard Krew is earning their douchebag reputation.

http://media.giphy.com/media/I4Jmrcjnr8Zfq/giphy.gif

That's a good one coming from a BDA member.

[Kushie]

Haggard Krew confirmed bad at ForumQuesting too

[captnamazing]

haggard crew is a pussy version of Dolj (RIPx3). They don't have the mettle it takes to RNF nor the balls to try and do anything meaningful other than snipe FTE from lowbies on Stormfeather and steal mobs from people leveling in Kurn's. I would not let their leadership suck my greasy halfling cock, not even if they paid to service me. in 6 months they will implode. Toxic raiders will go to Forsaken (if Detoxx is a moran) and the decent ppl in guild will join Azure Guard so they can enjoy Sky every week. pras velious solver of all problems EQ jesus

[Swish]

haggard crew is a pussy version of Dolj (RIPx3). They don't have the mettle it takes to RNF

Great policy imo, don't RNF on a guild level. Ruined BDA's rep among others.

[drktmplr12]

I would not let their leadership suck my greasy halfling cock, not even if they paid to service me.

greasy

why is it greasy?

[captnamazing]

when is the last time your EQ character took a bath..?

[Rararboker]

when is the last time your EQ character took a bath..?

Every visit to mistmoore I make sure to stop in lasna's bath for a quick vampire scrub. You don't?

[captnamazing]

mistmoore is too scary for Filbus to relax in a nice bath.

[Kushie]

DONT BE A DICK DONT BE A PUSSY SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHAGGARDKREW

[Robbintha Hood]

when is the last time your EQ character took a bath..?

When's the last time you took a bath in real life. You seem to be ForumQuesting a little too often and saying nothing of relevance. Should probably step away from the keyboard and invest a couple of bucks in some body wash and a loofah.

Haggard Krew confirmed bad at ForumQuesting too
DONT BE A DICK DONT BE A PUSSY SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHAGGARDKREW

I'm sorry. Were you talking?

[Kushie]

You tried to disregard me while acknowledging me. Haggard Krew bad at forumquest.

[Robbintha Hood]

You tried to disregard me while acknowledging me. Haggard Krew bad at forumquest.

Its merely out of courtesy. Fact is, you're barely worth even noticing, both on forums and in-game, but I decided to give you the little acknowledgement you need to rub one out and feel good about yourself. Enjoy being fail at life.

[Kushie]

http://intfolder.com/_ph/7/2/762509665.jpg

[Robbintha Hood]

That's cute. I assume that Filbus could only be Butt-head.

[Robbintha Hood]

http://rdpcodes.com/images/Kushie_and_Filbus.png

Cuz you two clowns are never gonna score.

[Kushie]

I lol'd

[captnamazing]

you guys both need to stop posting.

[Kushie]

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/1313162598561.jpg

[captnamazing]

cheer up kushie, my love (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)

[Robbintha Hood]

http://media.giphy.com/media/U06qiAGoU0YNO/giphy.gif

Don't take that shit Kushie, fight back!