Dear "wipe it clean" nerds

[DRAGONBAIT]

ooh i get it, so u know a new server is coming and u want it to be blue! thats ur fight i got it, u dont want another pvp server so ure trying to convince us all to go blue and forget about pvp, amirite?


PD : so in the end u telling us to go blue but its you the one who knows blue sucks much more than red. thanks for the info bro

[Bazia]

they both suck

[Nirgon]

Seasonal boxes that end and are merged into this current one are the best plan

Hopefully you do a teams one then an item loot one

Path of Exile does this and it is a brilliant system

[SamwiseRed]

Seasonal boxes that end and are merged into this current one are the best plan

Hopefully you do a teams one then an item loot one

Path of Exile does this and it is a brilliant system

[vouss]

That's why you have people like beastagor with a hundred clickies scouting all day in iceclad for advisor wearing newbs, rather than running into Kael and attacking our clerics during their CH rotation. They don't want pvp, they just want to stomp newbs / lowbies.

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[Vile]

Seasonal boxes that end and are merged into this current one are the best plan

[Jimjam]

I remember having a really fun group vs group pvp battle across unrest/dagnor's cauldron with Beastagor and a bunch of Flowers (I think) versus my ranger and a couple of pals.

Is he a full on flowery ganker now?

[HappyTr33z]

I dont think it'd turn out differently really, I'd just like to have a fresh start because I would find that enjoyable. Don't really have or need any other reason

[hammbone]

If the intent is to eventually merge the servers, then I agree with seasonal. If the intent is to create a box where its not as lopsided, item loot must play a role.

[Xaanka]

wipe it clean 2016

[Xaanka]

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[Qtip]

Item loot? LOL. People quittin over getting pked, could you imagine if they lost an item on top of that? Lets try to get a decent population server instead of a 30 man server that a handful of people want to play on.

[Xaanka]

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[hammbone]

Item loot? LOL. People quittin over getting pked, could you imagine if they lost an item on top of that? Lets try to get a decent population server instead of a 30 man server that a handful of people want to play on.

increase drop rates... problem solved.

[Tradesonred]

Item loot? LOL. People quittin over getting pked, could you imagine if they lost an item on top of that? Lets try to get a decent population server instead of a 30 man server that a handful of people want to play on.

Solution is simple, you patch in sets of no drop, at various level brackets, especially for melees, tada! Everything you wear on top of that is a gamble.

You can go out and try to gank noobs out of their cloth but you will A) either do it at their relatively close gear level B) Be harder to gank, but if you fail you will lose a piece of gear.

[hammbone]

Solution is simple, you patch in sets of no drop, at various level brackets, especially for melees, tada! Everything you wear on top of that is a gamble.

You can go out and try to gank noobs out of their cloth but you will A) either do it at their relatively close gear level B) Be harder to gank, but if you fail you will lose a piece of gear.

concept isnt bad... only no drop items are basic sets - pvp in rags or risk being baller

[DRAGONBAIT]

i dont think item loot is the way to go, thats something that will catter to very a very small playerbase, remember we are on red, but people play it as if it was a blue server, dont ask them for hardcore red mechanics. item loot is way too much imo, not for me, but for the mayority of the potential red players.

[hammbone]

i dont think item loot is the way to go, thats something that will catter to very a very small playerbase, remember we are on red, but people play it as if it was a blue server, dont ask them for hardcore red mechanics. item loot is way too much imo, not for me, but for the mayority of the potential red players.

did you forget the problem we're trying to address? Item loot is the only thing that will keep the game playable and means to dethrone.

[Tradesonred]

i dont think item loot is the way to go, thats something that will catter to very a very small playerbase, remember we are on red, but people play it as if it was a blue server, dont ask them for hardcore red mechanics. item loot is way too much imo, not for me, but for the mayority of the potential red players.

Not sure how that would play out. It sounds harsh but with no drops sets, it isnt that bad and makes low level pvp interesting. Right now when theres a twink around options is to camp. Item loot? Option is to bag every non no-drop piece you got and get on the twink. Because he cant wear stuff without risking to lose it, its either a fair fight, which the "twink" will lose quickly if hes solo griefing a group of newbs, or theres something in it to fight back. You can die a couple of times but if you win you get a piece.

It probably would end up badly with a high level pocket healing the griefer but not because EQpvp item loot is bad in itself, but because of what kind of community the staff has let grown around their server over the years. An ideal scenario would see "good guys" also roaming the newb zones to help buff the underdogs.

[SamwiseRed]

making sol ro armor no drop and/or adding in luclin newbie armor quests (they were no drop) would make item loot a little easier for the casual. especially melees.

[hammbone]

remove bagging item concept - too many scummy players that will autoit or MQ2 macro bagging all of their shit.

1 item from the player can be looted (including bags) - player cant have primary and chest looted.

pocket healers: make most zones lv40+ = FFA; otherwise +/-4 pvp range and +/- 4 lvl pvp kill gets item loot. This would let sub 40 play without too much worry from griefers in places like permafrost and lguk.

the higher level priest is the major problem - we've all seen it in crushbone. only solution I can think of is limiting inbound buffs by +/- 10 spell level to player lvl. Meaning if the lowbie was lvl 10, he could only get lvl 20 spells cast on him. Friends should be able to help friends but lowbie pvp with 24point dmg shield, chloro, and skin like nature is silly.

[hammbone]

guess you could also temp flag lower lvl OOR healers as pvp-enabled for upper levels.

The higher level oor healers helping lowbies is something that would have to be addressed.

[Gustoo]

srs question,

why do you think that a new pvp server would end up any different than the current pvp server after a year?

(this is not in RNF for a reason. if you dont have anything to contribute, don't post here)

<3
Sirks

I will try to list some of the most important reasons, and will try to begin the list with the reasons that most people can agree with, and end the list with reasons that are based on my experience, expertise, genius, and my background as a climate change sociologist.

1. Rough start:

A: The server had a rough start for several reasons. First, the beta was very long and there was never a pre-determined launch date until fairly close to that date. Enthusiastic players slowly faded away and by the time the permanent server was announced, a lot of players were not following the forums and didn't come back until weeks or months after the launch. By this time, the server had already began down its unfortunate path.

The new server would not have a beta and it's timeline and launch date (and the date of expansions) should be pre-announced well ahead of time so people could plan and have a good time.

B: The original ruleset was the sad result of some secret "dream pvp ruleset" committee and was a gross hodge podge of rallos and tz/vz rules. It was a FFA server that had a +- 8 level PVP range, with coin loot, and EXP loss on PVP death, in addition to (unless it was added later) random unlimited PVP range zones where max levels could kill level 30's grinding exp.

This unfortunate and poorly thought out rulset had several sad results:
I. Level 10 players could farm level 2 + players for coins for spells. This was the
best way to get spell money
II. Griefers thought the EXP loss on death was hilarious, but normal people now
had an enormous incentive to avoid PVP, with absolutely zero incentive
to engage in PVP to defeat their mighty foes (PK's).

C: The Holocaust / Nihilum debacle: Holocaust was banned, Amelinda was found guilty of treason against the realm, Nihilum reigned for years and was ultimately also banished, somewhat validating Holocaust's early claims of corruption.

We can only hope that something like this won't happen to the fresh server in such an egregious manner.

2. Later bad ideas:

A: Accelerated EXP: this helped a top heavy server become even more top heavy. This is fine for the people that think everquest is all about level 60 and collecting all of the all/all +5 to all stats items from raids, but for casual players it makes the world unhappy and dead, with no one spending any time in newbie zones and a significant portion of the population logging on for raids only. The server economy is also junky as a result, since there is no one with any use for lower end (but still good) items. I give them away for free if I can actually find someone to use them, or sell them to merchants.

B: PVP resist code: this is still a big point of contention, but the best thing we can hope for is the closest resemblance to live as possible with no attempts at "balancing" outside of early live changes like making "fear" spells not force players to suicide off of buildings or into hot lava, and making pets draw aggro from guards to the pet owner when PVPing near guards. People used to complain about this way too often, but it seems to have settled down a bit.

C: T staff: this baby was insanely powerful for way too long and resulted in many cry babies.

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The above explains some of the things that brought the current server to it's present state.

I feel the following will result in a more successful server.

1. Leave the present server as is, but turn it into a true Vallon Zek / Tallon Zek server replica and implement some teams. Some people will be bummed for about 1 week, and then everyone else will be happy to have a new experience and enjoy classic style teams. Some people love teams and will be happy to be a part of this new experience. OR you can just leave the present server as is, in no-mans-land so that the "Status Quo" guys can be happy. This will probably result in a dead server at some point.

2. Make the new server an actual Rallos Zek replica ("project 1999, classic everquest") which means a +-4 level pvp range with item loot and full coin loot that starts at level 1. The only change from classic is that we can disable the looting of held items right from the beginning because Fists are not meant to be used by melee characters in everquest besides monks, and looting a warrior's sword makes him way too weak.

Why have item loot?

A. We already have a server without item loot and it is marginal at best.
B. With slow EXP, and item loot, people are encouraged to enjoy the game at lower levels. Certain classes enjoy certain advantages at certain levels, so in a sense you can choose an alternate character path that terminates at level 10 (for a rogue murderer) or level 30 (for an SK murderer with high damage weapon) or level 16 for a wizard (melee still quite weak, and avoid dealing with level 10 rogues)

Item loot is not a problem for low level players, these players wear the garbage gear they get wherever they are grinding, and this gear has almost zero value.

Rich players we do not have to worry about. Players think twice before running around at level 10 with a fungus tunic, which is great because a low level player with such an item is somewhat absurd. If the fungus tunic gets taken from a player with a level 60 already, it isn't a big deal. This makes it fun because people that don't like to grind to level 60 and camp items can still try to gang up or otherwise find a way to assassinate twink players and steal their items.

It makes the low level game a lot of fun. It makes twinks more interesting because of the adrenaline of losing your ikky regen, and the adrenaline of finding another player with something worth looting.

Some crazy guys say "it makes it so so sad for lowbies" but this is not true. If you care about a lowbie you can give them 100PP which will buy a melee a full suit of banded, Lowbies learn to deal with murderers and only with item loot do they have any chance of retribution. With the present system, Twink PK's can only be avoided. There is no reason to challenge them and no chance of reward. The punishment of your group being broken up and your EXP being destroyed is far greater than the loss of your piece of ringmail.

When item loot is around, groups are encouraged to stick around and focus on killing the twink, since he is worth killing. It is a fun challenge that makes up for the loss of stable exp grinding.


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We know several things for sure

1. Item loot isn't for everyone
2. Item loot makes the low level PVP experience way better
3. We already have a non item loot pvp server
4. A lot of people from blue and hopefully from outside our current playerbase will be willing to play a classic rallos zek server for several reasons:
A: Because they want to experience the classic era, the best most balanced and
beautiful era of the game.
B: Because they want to be a part of a fresh server from the beginning, and all
that that implies.
C: Because they have already experienced the game in a non rallos zek way and
will be willing to try everquest in one of it's most interesting, challenging, unique
and dynamic formats. A level of intensity and fun that is not seen on any modern
game, or any current emulated offering.


The new server will benefit greatly from the knowledge and experience gained by the P99 staff and players throughout the RED99 server's history. It will have a better start and benefit from a more classic ruleset that really offers meaningful differentiation from both Blue 99 and all current MMO's.

[Telron]

Teams + FFA(Level Limit that is) + 1 Item Loot - Relaunched every 6 months and merged into red99. GO!

[Gustoo]

OOR healers and buffs are an unfortunate part of everquest. The only true solution is to solve the problem with PVP. We benefit from these web forums. If you see an OOR healer in a zone, give a shout out and maybe someone will come by and take him out.

We can have a sub section for "OOR Help!" where threads need to be titled in a specific format so cool PVP players can log on and see if there is anyone they should track down and execute.

All other known solutions create more problems than they solve.

Regarding the anti-item loot guys: Look, we have two non item loot servers. They are what they are. Blue is doing wonderfully with a ton of players, so for people that want to go blue style, they can do so on blue or the current server. This is not meant as an insult like "if you don't like item loot, you are a bluebie!" I understand that PVP makes the high level blue-style game better by allowing guilds to contest high value raid content.

The only people that really don't want to see an item loot server are the people that want to get to maximum level and get their best gear, and never risk losing it. These people can continue to play on the present server or on blue. For everyone else, being a level 50 or 60 with the best gear means risking your gear strategically.

Bagging scripts will obviously need to be banned, but bagging is a legitimate strategy. Anyone focused on bagging is a coward and is going to suck at PVP, and we can post videos of them with auto run while their armor graphics disappear from their toon.

So the only thing we have to worry about on that front is bannable scripts, which are already bannable and additionally most players think cheating in a game like this is for true scum bags.

[Gustoo]

Teams + FFA(Level Limit that is) + 1 Item Loot - Relaunched every 6 months and merged into red99. GO!

I think a "discord" server replica would be a lot of fun. I think it should earn you a place on a leaderboard permanently for you to bask in your greatness. Only the winner should be allowed to transfer to a permanent server, and with only one manastone.

[Gnomegrown2]

no one cares what any of you think

this was a PSA by staff to tell you they are never wiping

by page 30 we are already on the I think TLDRS and the teams server / item loot posts

give up

[Gustoo]

The last thing I can say is that I think it will be a big mistake to tie item loot to a new teams server. Everquest teams has never been very good, the game is really not designed around dividing players from one another in that way, and I would hate to see P99's attempt at item loot server be totally boned by a disgusting teams server.

The present dying server should be forced into teams, it would be fun as heck. I think the Freeport vs Neriak would be the best format, since we all acknowledge that ogres, bards and iksars should be on both teams. A two team system works in kunark as well, with firiona vie and OT. It would be inclination based, "good" or "Evil" and we could write some lore real quick. Race would not be a factor. Neriak needs a dock to Faydwer, and the rest of the cities would remain neutral ground, and faction should apply normally outside of neriak, freeport, OT, and Firiona. Some quest issues are pretty easy to resolve. Maybe the lore can be that there is a corruption assaulting norrath, and people can either fight the corruption or join it.

The new server should be classic rallos.

[Samaritan]

No set up will have a chance with a shit GM like Sirken at the helm. Sirks isn't qualified to run a drive thru window at your local Wendy's.

[Gustoo]

He has the avatar of Agent Smith which is totally confidence inspiring in my book, and he made this thread.

That makes him a good guy.

[Gustoo]

Because Sirken posted about it and a lot of people want to play classic era everquest again.

[Tradesonred]

This should be on top of things to do if a new server is ever considered seriously:

BRAINSTORM IT

That was a huge mistake, to think you have most of the answers and then we have to watch you fumble so badly with "I told you so's" afterwards. Like sticking your heads in the sand for so long that this isnt call of duty and refusing to change xp loss in pvp until it was clear that pop was heading to peak single digit.

Come up with some sort of plan outline. Like "Ok, this is what we have in mind, what do you guys think?"

And then you let people brainstorm it and pick it apart, and then you say well i like so and so, but wouldnt that situation lead to that situation? So on and so forth.

After a month or 2 of this, settle on something. If you guys decide to lone wolf this again im gonna laugh so hard, im not even going to be pissed in any way at that point, it will be pure comedy.

[Gustoo]

If you guys decide to lone wolf this again im gonna laugh so hard, im not even going to be pissed in any way at that point, it will be pure comedy.

Totally nailed it. Current project red probably would have been a lot stronger from the get go if they had talked about it rather than just throw it out there, beta forever and ever, and then go live with almost no changes.

[wts]

Sirken has already said he suggested a bunch of customization to achieve class balance and he was shot down. If your idea is not classic, before you click post, don't click post.

[Tradesonred]

Theyve already settled for Classic-ish

[Gustoo]

Classic UI unenhancements like buff timer removal.

Unclassic ruleset and exp.


Shits classic.


Anyways looking forward to the new server sirken.

[Jimjam]

did you forget the problem we're trying to address? Item loot is the only thing that will keep the game playable and means to dethrone.

or you could just have a server set before the three planes were released so even the best equipment really isn't that much better than crap.

[Smedy]

hey nerds

naw

[Gustoo]

Jim jam that would be a lot of fun.

[hammbone]

No set up will have a chance with a shit GM like Sirken at the helm. Sirks isn't qualified to run a drive thru window at your local Wendy's.

doesnt this violate the respect towards GMs rule?

[Zade]

didnt read 30 pages of QQ. Teams plz

[hammbone]

didnt read 30 pages of QQ. Teams plz

think the summary was teams isnt going to fix anything without a very unclassic adoption and item loot

[SamwiseRed]

think the summary was teams isnt going to fix anything without a very unclassic adoption and item loot

another ffa server would be boring

sz ruleset deserves the next shot

[wts]

The purpose of teams isn't to fix shit. The purpose of teams is to temporarily reintroduce competition so we can break shit for a little while.

[Tradesonred]

another ffa server would be boring

sz ruleset deserves the next shot

Cant think of a ruleset that would depopulate a server quicker than cast and people like him one-shotting lowbies in blackburrow with a lvl 50. Nay, 3 50s, one camped in each popular newb zone.

[SamwiseRed]

worked for wow, weird

vanilla wow best world pvp of any mmo to ever come out. hard coded teams, no level range.

[Zlain]

The purpose of teams isn't to fix shit. The purpose of teams is to temporarily reintroduce competition so we can break shit for a little while.

Exactly, Of course it'll ultimately end up the same most likely, since it's all the same people and you're just a wonderful bunch. What will be different/better will be the road traveled to get it back to that point. Especially if it follows true expansion progression.

[wts]

worked for wow, weird

vanilla wow best world pvp of any mmo to ever come out. hard coded teams, no level range.

FFA is never happening, but keep the dream alive.

[Gnomegrown2]

it wont end up the same because it wont happen

teams is the gayest shit ever and only the biggest fattest blue pussies want it

and again, it was just a troll you smurfs ate up

[SamwiseRed]

FFA is never happening, but keep the dream alive.

wut? i hate ffa servers? are you confusing ffa with no level range?

[wts]

wut? i hate ffa servers? are you confusing ffa with no level range?

Yep.

[druid1]

What would be the problem with opening another pvp server? It would allow new players a more even playing field then trying to compete with gear and politics of a 4 year old cess pool that is red99.

Not a progression server. Release it brand new with all content through end of velious including revamps. All the toxic scum can stay on red99 with there 20 amulets of necropotence and everyone else can enjoy everquest again on an even playing field.

[Dronelord27]

I one day dream of a Freeport spawn where you get stabbed upon your first log in ever. Where the lvl one pvp was rampant and they stole your starting tunic and sold it for 1cp.

[Zlain]

I one day dream of a Freeport spawn where you get stabbed upon your first log in ever. Where the lvl one pvp was rampant and they stole your starting tunic and sold it for 1cp.

I had a lvl 8 DE Enc that I camped in Freeport to do exactly this on TZ for a little bit. was entertaining. I've grown up in the last 16years since then though, wouldn't do it now.

[Tradesonred]

Are there any plans for another server? It seems like such a fucking tease for so long. Like hey we know server is fucked so lay out the case for a wipe or another server, that may or may not happen within the next 5 years.

[Gnomegrown2]

even if they released a new server you would just cry about it and post here ecoli

[Circa.]

Completely wipe everything clean.

[cr0ss]

Completely wipe everything clean.

[HippoNipple]

^
Dear wipe it clean nerds

[jcr4990]

Can someone explain to me why everybody seems to think the solution to the problem of an extremely underpopulated PvP server is to make another PvP server? I'm not a mathematician but 2 + 2 = two pvp servers will have less players on each than 1 pvp server.

[Sriracha]

1/2 the number of cheating assholes is a good dilution. I think what we need is 4 to 5 PVP servers so that Slathar can play on all of them.

[Gustoo]

This server is fairly toxic. New server would be new, JCR. A lot of bluebies would come to start a new server because blue is so crowded and they want to experience classic era.

[Swish]

I think what we need is 4 to 5 PVP servers so that Slathar can play on all of them.

[DRAGONBAIT]

new red server is a solution for blue also. i dont understand the logic behind not wanting to have a fresh start now that guards are functioning, youve learnt from exp loss etc etc. Is not that hard to understand a fresh start is what we need, but there must be money or something behind all this to not happen, i dont understand the devs keep saying what would change? it would change everything omg

[Gustoo]

No talking about corruption you will get banned.

But yeah, it would change everything and with ultra high pop blue we would get a lot of immigrants to pvp because of how beautiful new servers are.

Also the new server should release with staged level progression so no one can bum rush to 50...so the server can start more smoothly ans at least for a little while we see a lot of low level pvp action.

[Laugher]

Seems to me if Re-99 came out with a livelike timeline/sim patch system +pvp you'd see blue and red playing because classic/timeline/pvp.

To take it a step further if you then gave people the option of which permanent 99 server (blue/red) they wanted to retire the char to at the end of the server's run I would think you could see 600+ for at least a few days.

[Uton]

new red server is a solution for blue also. i dont understand the logic behind not wanting to have a fresh start now that guards are functioning, youve learnt from exp loss etc etc. Is not that hard to understand a fresh start is what we need, but there must be money or something behind all this to not happen, i dont understand the devs keep saying what would change? it would change everything omg

the only people who would benefit from a server wipe are people who put absolutely zero effort into their characters and accomplished nothing

[Gustoo]

People aren't asking for wipe just a new server. The guys who like to one guild all content will still have red 99 with its softy full item retention ruleset.

[RoguePhantom]

People aren't asking for wipe just a new server. The guys who like to one guild all content will still have red 99 with its softy full item retention ruleset.

EVERY FFA server will boil down to a 1 guild rules them all. Teams, and hard coded teams (so you can AOE) is the only way to prevent it.

[Gustoo]

Nah

[TacoSmasher]

Thread is shit.

server is good, empire is owning velly atm, there are multiple guilds killing raid targets and engaging in pvp. there is room for other guilds to gear up and grow.


most harmful thing for the server is the handful of retards (most who dont even play here) exaggerating issues and bitching on these forums literally every day.

forum wipe/shutdown 2015 kthnx.

[Kergan]

srs question,

why do you think that a new pvp server would end up any different than the current pvp server after a year?

(this is not in RNF for a reason. if you dont have anything to contribute, don't post here)

<3
Sirks

I believe what you are asking is why even bother creating a new server unless it'll turn out differently than this one. People are getting too hung up on "wipe or no wipe".

And Sirken, you're asking an essentially useless question honestly. First off, some people have no issues with how this server turned out. Even assuming that the consensus is this server sucks (it probably is), asking how to prevent something completely undefined from happening a second time is an impossible question.

So if you want true meaningful discussion, we would have to first define in specifics what exactly we don't want to happen again if there were to be a new server.

So for example, let's say we want a server with more PVP as a general goal. We'd have to first agree on what causes people to not PVP on this server and come up with solutions for each of them that are realistic.

Example:

People avoid PVP because dying in EverQuest sucks (potentially long CRs, etc). Possible solution - if you die in PVP you spawn with all your gear. Positives could be less fear of death, people acting more aggressively. Negatives could be abuse of it for free ports or avoiding exp loss deaths, and pushing it too far the other direction where people don't really care at all if they die instead of caring too much.

I'd also add, that R99 turned out like every other PVP server ever created. If you want to avoid that fate, you're going to have to concede some of the "classic for classic sake" parts of R99. It's a weird thing where the line gets drawn around here. Non classic resists? Sure. Non classic PVP ruleset? Ok. Changes to overpowered items, recharging items, etc? That's ok too. But in game leaderboards? No way. Rewards for PVP? Can't have it! Fixes to OOR healing, zone plugging? Too much work.

If you really want to make something cool, you're going to have to remove those classic-only training wheels from whatever PVP dev/project manager you bring into the fold to build this thing.

[magician]

servers in much better shape then it was in kunark atm. kick rocks

[Gustoo]

Easiest thing would be just make a discord server, perma death (back to level one) and 100 percent loot. Classic only and resets after a few months.

I'd like to see a full new server but a discord would be a lot of fun too.

[Tradesonred]

Easiest thing would be just make a discord server, perma death (back to level one) and 100 percent loot. Classic only and resets after a few months.

I'd like to see a full new server but a discord would be a lot of fun too.

id play discord for sure, was server full loot, for reference?

[surron]

Thread is shit.

server is good, empire is owning velly atm, there are multiple guilds killing raid targets and engaging in pvp. there is room for other guilds to gear up and grow.


most harmful thing for the server is the handful of retards (most who dont even play here) exaggerating issues and bitching on these forums literally every day.

forum wipe/shutdown 2015 kthnx.

this dude is right, there should only be 2 sections, trade and guild. too many outside nerds that don't play here give red a bad name

[TacoSmasher]

you have brain damage, your opinion is invalid.

[surron]

the most harmful thing for this server has ALWAYS been the staff

sorry

care to explain how? they answer petitions that deal with in game bugs and dont fucking lawyer quest (classic). imo the the staff on red is way better than blue.

[Swish]

Aussie was great at summoning an expired corpse a while back. Top service.

[Sirken]

finally sat down to read this thread, thanks for helping me get past the last 3.5 hours. i was going to quote a few posts from dumbasses that decided to use this as an attempt to troll or insult the server, or the staff. and then i was also planning on correcting a lot of posts that are flat out wrong or spreading misinformation. but at the end of the day, i decided to just leave all the crap where it is so that the community as a whole can see who the problematic people are, versus the people that actually play here and/or enjoy playing here.

to all the people that actually gave feedback, or shared their ideas, i do thank you. some of them are very good, some of them have not yet been brought up yet in staff discussions, and so ill be sure to link the big guys to those specific posts.

that said, i probably wont be viewing this thread again as i feel ive given it enough time for anyone with an opinion to share that opinion.

thanks again,
and as always,
<3
Sirks

PS- Wendy's is fine establishment, don't bad mouth them. especially dont bad mouth the spicy chicken sandwich, or the nice drive thru people that give me that delicious piece of spicy heaven. nerd.

[Kergan]

Easiest thing would be just make a discord server, perma death (back to level one) and 100 percent loot. Classic only and resets after a few months.

I'd like to see a full new server but a discord would be a lot of fun too.

At that point just make EverQuake with standard gear sets, everyone starts at 60 and like 5 zones. Not even saying that is a bad idea, and you'd only need like 10 people logged in at a time to have fun. :P

[Kergan]

finally sat down to read this thread, thanks for helping me get past the last 3.5 hours. i was going to quote a few posts from dumbasses that decided to use this as an attempt to troll or insult the server, or the staff. and then i was also planning on correcting a lot of posts that are flat out wrong or spreading misinformation. but at the end of the day, i decided to just leave all the crap where it is so that the community as a whole can see who the problematic people are, versus the people that actually play here and/or enjoy playing here.

to all the people that actually gave feedback, or shared their ideas, i do thank you. some of them are very good, some of them have not yet been brought up yet in staff discussions, and so ill be sure to link the big guys to those specific posts.

that said, i probably wont be viewing this thread again as i feel ive given it enough time for anyone with an opinion to share that opinion.

thanks again,
and as always,
<3
Sirks

PS- Wendy's is fine establishment, don't bad mouth them. especially dont bad mouth the spicy chicken sandwich, or the nice drive thru people that give me that delicious piece of spicy heaven. nerd.

Just in case you check this again, I will say the single greatest thing you, Rogean, Nilbog, etc can do is get a dedicated PVP person not only to do code changes but to project manage R99 (and any other potential future PVP server) as it's own entity.

[Swish]

Just in case you check this again, I will say the single greatest thing you, Rogean, Nilbog, etc can do is get a dedicated PVP person not only to do code changes but to project manage R99 (and any other potential future PVP server) as it's own entity.

Simple idea, but I think that's a great one if it helps give the server more focus.

[watbab]

after a year?

A year of fun compared to no fun at all?

[Vile]

At that point just make EverQuake with standard gear sets, everyone starts at 60 and like 5 zones. Not even saying that is a bad idea, and you'd only need like 10 people logged in at a time to have fun. :P

you missed my crucify server bro

[SamwiseRed]

wut about bosses? jk

[Humerox]

Just in case you check this again, I will say the single greatest thing you, Rogean, Nilbog, etc can do is get a dedicated PVP person not only to do code changes but to project manage R99 (and any other potential future PVP server) as it's own entity.

this...and a few volunteer guides specifically for red that COME from red

[heartbrand]

My favorite red99 thing was how staff told us for years how null was working on the resist code, as null would tell us in vent how he hasn't logged into p99 in years and had nothing to do with them any more

[Kilbur]

only reason to wipe it clean would be to add item loot...

[DRAGONBAIT]

the blatant rmt that goes on in this server is reason enough to wipe

[Samsung]

the blatant rmt that goes on in this server is reason enough to wipe

Rmt was worse a year ago you rarely hear it happen anymore.

[DRAGONBAIT]

if it comes from you ill take it as good info.

[Kergan]

RMT would be 10x worse on a new server. Stop posting stupid shit and read the OP.

[Genedin]

I would love a wipe. The pure joy of lvling up with 300 other people of the same lvl in starting zones and no gear would be as classic as you can get on a pvp server.

[Sosa_Chamberlain]

Elf mod 4 life

[Old_PVP]

PVP servers are always in need of new blood. In order to do this, you need to make big changes.

A 3rd server that has cyclically scheduled wipes and merges into the current Red99 is a good start. Everyone likes to start fresh, but most will not invest time if their characters are wiped permanently.

[Deliverator]

I can just see a crew of monks just murdering people in newbie zones HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[watbab]

I don't RMT anymore so RMT is way down.

Okay dude.

[Mr Popo]

Make a new server for a while after this expansion gets really old 2 years from now ///thread

[SamwiseRed]

Make a new server for a while after this expansion gets really old 2 years from now ///thread

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[Mr Popo]

:)

[Amuck]

I Love how sektors always has something to say about the subject of RMT. You don't hear about it as much anymore because you lames are finding ways to do it under the radar. I have tons of pixels on R99 I would hate to see lost, BUT I would trade all my pixels for a fresh start. Lets say there is a 300 pop server, lets limit guilds to say 30 people ( if at all possible) and make it team/guild wars. Where there cant be Xteaming and cheating. Dedicate yourself to a guild stick to it. There will be so much more pvp and contesting rather then the current situation on our server. It is very 1 sided and to join the winning team has never been in me. I like a challenge but it has got to the point where numbers are far overwhelming skills. Not to say Empire are all bad players. they do have quite a few great pvprs. but most of ya guys suck. Anyways WIPE IT CLEAN or start a new server and allow RED99 to carry on to what it is becoming and what it is - blue.

[georgie]

Stfu Mad stasis didn't read