Have you considered red?

[Slathar]

give it a shot, go on. try it. would you?

[Swish]

its worth considering

[Rhambuk]

Do you consider a fire beetle when you're level 60?

no, its just so far beneath you why bother....

[Gimp]

Red is more blue than blue with a quarter of the population and a toxic community.

Why anyone would play there baffles me.

[Swish]

Red is more blue than blue with a quarter of the population and a toxic community.

Why anyone would play there baffles me.

Another guy who hasn't played on red, just spouting something someone else said who also hasn't played on red.

Blue server:

☑ Terrible raid scene in its current format (Velious isn't curing that)

☑ Inflation pricing out new players who rely on handouts or having to roll a druid first because they need a cash generator (Velious will intensify this)

☑ Camp lawyers, best believe they're coming for yours. Better swot up on your server rules, otherwise you might believe the lies and half truths they try to angle you with (Be extra vigilant in a Velious camp situation)

☑ No access to decent camps. Guilds sitting on Tranix crowns for as long as they want, people who mass log in for a shot at the AC ring in South Ro at 9pm. Want it? It's fucking camped, every time.

☑ Hybrid hate - sorry Mr Ranger, we've already got 2 hybrids... you know how it is.

☑ Chardok AOE - complain about the red server XP rate, then log onto your 50ish toon to get your blue character to 60 faster.

☑

☑



Keep going, there's a huge list of things wrong with blue. Some can be attributed to 4 years of Kunark, others are just the "toxic" inhabitants you find (to requote that overused word you guys love).

[Brut]

It stopped being fun when Kunark came out. It's even less fun with Kunark out for years there. Velious will make it even worse. Done considering.

[Gimp]

You can argue about rule camps and all that shit, but people are committing fucking felonies in the name of pixels on red.

Sending drugs through the mail and attempted murder with a mace? Lol.

I think I'll stick with the lawyerquest.

[Bboboo]

god damn

so mad

[Colgate]

feels good not having to hire a real life lawyer to assist me in normal day-to-day elf interactions

[Gimp]

p99 lawyers are free.

the ones you need for getting caught sending or receiving addy through the mail, not so much.

[Colgate]

any prof or naw?

[Swish]

Press your nearest hand dryer to hear Gimp's next soapbox speech.

[Gimp]

too lazy for soapbox. just stating facts and such.

[Uuruk]

KS'ing on Blue:
https://youtu.be/gyDsM2j_a4k

KS'ing on Red:
https://youtu.be/2hV-aALLFzA

[Lojik]

Red is definitely different. I'm only 31 so only experienced low level stuff, so I can't say much about high end pvp.

There are way fewer people. While camps are more open, this reduces your options for groups. Particularly with the group xp bonus, there is no reason to not group. Also with the bonus people out level dungeons very fast, so you have really one option for each level range to group since the pool is so small. Crushbone, then Unrest pre 25, mistmoore to 40, com after that. However, you will level much faster than blue, even with terrible group compositions.

Fewer people means fewer of all kinds of people. While most people are helpful on red, there are still more helpful people on blue just due to sheer population advantage. There are fewer psychopaths/idiots on red, but it's easier for them to affect your gaming outing. If you don't care about yt and have thick skin it's really not bad, but you will run into some wackjobs.

Buying stuff, ports, research, all are painful on red. It's really not worth it to try and camp items appropriate for your level either, as you could spend that hour getting 2 or 3 levels

If you start on red i recommend cleric, you'll always have a group and wanted in guilds 50+

[Gimp]

Fewer psychos on red? Methinks you're confused.

[milsorgen]

I jumped over to rad for the weekend. It's been amazing! Rolled a human monk and got up to 6 in no time. Love rad experience btw. Only seen two other players so far too.

Rad server is the way to go, a place where the world is yours!

[Cecily]

Red is pretty fun and it's a much different experience than blue. It's not a bad choice if the game has gone stall for you waiting on Velious.

[Slathar]

i just played red99 for 17 hours. i am a convicted felon and yes im on parole. i aint goin back though.

[LostCause]

http://www.nationalturk.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/breivik-cell.jpg

[myriverse]

I have considered red... to be a blight upon this Earth.

[Faywind]

Red would be fun but the population is too low. It doesn't feel like EQ with so few people. I am hoping a PVP teams server happens with a good population, that would be sweet but for now, blue it is :(

[Swish]

Red would be fun but the population is too low.

The people who say that must be in the hundreds.

[Sixpence]

I spilt my time between Blue & Red.

I've met some wonderful people on there & love the thrill of Red & recommend it to anyone who's curious. I just ignore the OOC mostly.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

If you are not a coward, try red.

[mystang89]

" Have you considered red?"

Yes and the answer is still no :)

If you are not a coward, try red.

Coward? Sounds like a nice name. Or, if you just don't like PvP maybe?

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/x1HW4Z7.gif

[B4EQWASCOOL]

http://i.imgur.com/x1HW4Z7.gif

Damnit, Swish, you win the internet again today! Gonna have to build a warehouse to fit all these awards.

[Madbad]

http://i.imgur.com/x1HW4Z7.gif

I like how that guy would be fucking dead it they were outside, killed by a monkey 1/10th his size.

kinda like red i guess

[RaptorDisaster]

I started on Red before switching to Blue. Reasons I switched:

- Red is barren. Groups are amazing, but as a cleric I still went entire days without a single group.
- I'm all about PvP, but it has less meaning when everybody seems to attack everybody else without thought. I like having the option and ability for PvP in certain situations, but other players might as well be mobs if its just "you're red you're dead!" all the time.
- I started a cleric, I see why they're scarce on Red =P

Most of the people on Red are great though. I've thought about coming back and seeing if it's better at high levels (32 atm).

[Tapatio]

I tried red based on OP's recommendation and user story. Thanks OP!

[Damn]

The people who say that must be in the hundreds.

Most people cant handle being griefed as if having a higher population would change that fact

[Hijiri]

Server population is horrible

[Riotgirl]

I have never liked the tacked on PvP to what essentially is a PvE game. If I wanted to play PvP, I'd play a different game.

That simple really.

[Slithor]

Nope

[Twonky]

I had never given red a shot, nor did I have any plans to, before my brother and a couple other RL friends that I often play with moved over there with TMO. I didn't think I would like it, and expected the move to red would kick off another EQ vacation for me when I realized how much I hated it. It's actually been a fun experience, though. Sure, there are the borderline insane griefers and shit talkers, but those are on blue as well, and if you have a fairly thick skin and your immersion levels aren't off the charts, it's not hard to shrug them off. Even the mundane things like trading with other players becomes exciting on red, knowing that pvp can go down at any time. Spells and items you wouldn't normally use become useful, and making friends and grouping becomes more valuable. There is a newbie friendly guild called Thunderdome that takes players of all levels and provides plenty of people to group with, ports, binds and even some starter gear. Give it a shot. You may like it.

[Tiewon Shu]

I was thinking of starting on Red for Velious. Are there any guilds that recruit noobs?

[Swish]

People are far more welcoming in groups. The group bonus is its own reward of course but it's a good time for everyone regardless of class.

If you want to make a class that you don't think groups well on blue, do it on red. You're much more likely to get in for the sake of filling slots. My red wizard gets plenty of group action, and got my first season two kill :)

[Sixpence]

Tiewon - There is a newbie friendly guild called Thunderdome that takes players of all levels and provides plenty of people to group with, ports, binds and even some starter gear. Give it a shot. You may like it.

[Sixpence]

I love grouping on Red, the thrill of 'will they turn on me' made me a paranoid mess sure, but it keeps me on my toes & focused.
None of this "/afk....be back in a minute" every half hour.

[Slathar]

the best part of red is killing a player and laying awake at night thinking, "will i be clubbed to death by a lunatic with a hand-crafted flail" in retribution for my video game behavior

[JayN]

the best part of red is killing a player and laying awake at night thinking, "will i be clubbed to death by a lunatic with a hand-crafted flail" in retribution for my video game behavior

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/jack.gif

[Lojik]

What's the closest thing to a Tstaff IRL?

[Lionsfan616]

I love grouping on Red, the thrill of 'will they turn on me' made me a paranoid mess sure, but it keeps me on my toes & focused.
None of this "/afk....be back in a minute" every half hour.

IDK, i seem to run into a lot of AFK bards at work.. kinda annoying at times.

[Humerox]

What's the closest thing to a Tstaff IRL?

stun procs

BOOM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATGThGhYWUE)

[Sixpence]

IDK, i seem to run into a lot of AFK bards at work.. kinda annoying at times.

Group mates or Easy kills? It's a fine line eh.

[Swish]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/giphygifs/media/Bi6wDwxS9cjVS/200.gif

[Uton]

What's the closest thing to a Tstaff IRL?

High voltage cattle prod

[Swish]

High voltage cattle prod

If you won't try red, try one of those.

[Aviann]

the best part of red is killing a player and laying awake at night thinking, "will i be clubbed to death by a lunatic with a hand-crafted flail" in retribution for my video game behavior

Haha man, I laughed waaaay too hard at this. Thank you :)

[iruinedyourday]

Try red and you'll be like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-KEkQFuUKU

[Tiggles]

Red is fantastic.

Population on the ride and Velious is going to be a complete blast.

[Gimp]

Red is fantastic.

Population on the ride and Velious is going to be a complete blast.

It's Saturday around Noon and the population is still <200.

Facts and such.

[Slathar]

It's Saturday around Noon and the population is still <200.

Facts and such.

what does this mean?

shut up talkin to me

[Riotgirl]

It's Saturday around Noon and the population is still <200.

Facts and such.

When I hit the logon servers, I keep a beady eye on Red. Admittedly, I play Euro hours, so this could skew the numbers, but I have yet to see Red top >275 in a number of weeks.

The current player-base - for whatever reason - show no signs of changing their minds. That said, the PvP forums are not a good advert for Red.

[Slathar]

When I hit the logon servers, I keep a beady eye on Red. Admittedly, I play Euro hours, so this could skew the numbers, but I have yet to see Red top >275 in a number of weeks.

The current player-base - for whatever reason - show no signs of changing their minds. That said, the PvP forums are not a good advert for Red.

what's wrong with our forums?

[iruinedyourday]

Once you figure out the red forums they're pretty fun.

[Swish]

It's Saturday around Noon and the population is still <200.

Facts and such.

see you on launch night

[Bboboo]

Red server is like Australia, it's where all the criminals live. (Also the reason they have an Australian Guide)

That reason alone is good enough to keep it up and running. Sure you gotta see the occasional 'join red pal' bullshit, but I rather deal with that then deal with um on the blue server.

[Swish]

Red server is like Australia, it's where all the criminals live. (Also the reason they have an Australian Guide)

That reason alone is good enough to keep it up and running. Sure you gotta see the occasional 'join red pal' bullshit, but I rather deal with that then deal with um on the blue server.

That's racism, please ban for that. My mother is Australian and I'm no criminal. How dare you.

I guess you were posting that while eating 6 big macs and a 2 liter soda. Fuck you.

[Champion_Standing]

Guys the truth is that neither server is actually worth spending any of your life playing. But if you are going to waste away playing P99 then you might as well do it on a server where you won't spend an entire day staring at a wall in KC.

[Gimp]

see you on launch night

I'll be on blue, with the rest of the sane people

[Slathar]

I'll be on blue, with the rest of the sane people

to be fair an evaluation of the mental vanity of red would show a far smaller time investment versus those on blue


now who is crazier? the guy wasting days spamming javelins or the industrious warm body who got 60 with a massive exp bonus that kills every raid target in the game in less than 4-5 hours played.

/mic

[Mead]

If you have to beg people to come play with you, there's obviously a problem. The desperation is entertaining.

[Hijiri]

If you have to beg people to come play with you, there's obviously a problem. The desperation is entertaining.

^

Server is empty

[Swish]

If you have to beg people to come play with you, there's obviously a problem. The desperation is entertaining.

see you on launch night

^

Server is empty

see you on launch night

http://i.imgur.com/KKHaCX4.gif

[Casey VII]

Why would I want to play alongside hundreds of arguing morons tightly packed together with my proverbial hands tied behind my back?

That's like saying mexico city is a quality place to inhabit because of the population density.

Please god give me more empty zones. My close pals and enemies love all of this uncontested loot and adventure.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

It's simple, Sisters and Brothers.

Only low T beta cucks, key turners and back peddlers go to blue.

Everyone else. All those who seek challenge, sprint up the highest summits and love the feeling that comes with conquering the impossible - Lady Red welcomes you with her open battle-proven arms.

Rejoice, Red Norrath! We are the righteous few warriors ordained in the blood of our enemies!!

[Mead]

They're like a roach infestation. I blame Rogean.

[captnamazing]

"Join the pvp server to experience pve content" lol fucking 24/7

[Swish]

Q: Where will you be on Velious launch night?

RED: http://imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/07/12/ezgif-3643001831.gif

or

BLUE: http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/09/yawn1.gif

[Slathar]

blue server has a fucking raid contract and norrathian constitution


pathetic community of morons and losers. everyone on red has a six pack and a high paying job.

[Bboboo]

"come outa that EC tunnel" lol don't think I've been there for more than an hour since I came back.

[Swish]

If you have to beg people to come play with you, there's obviously a problem. The desperation is entertaining.

http://imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/07/12/ezgif-3643001831.gifhttp://imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/07/12/ezgif-3643001831.gifhttp://imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/07/12/ezgif-3643001831.gif
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[Mistle]

If you have to beg people to come play with you, there's obviously a problem. The desperation is entertaining.

Months/years of furiously spamming red in every possible thread and every possible forum every day of the week and its rolling at weekend prime time tonight with a grand total of... 283.

People consider red all the time. People TRY red all the time. And then they quit when they see the people they are playing with. Even the 300% exp bonus isn't enough draw when it means playing with those people.

[xhucknasty]

^ I always wonder if the people that shame Red to this extent have actually played on red. Inc: highly embellished stories by Red flamers claiming to have the biggest Jody on the box but quit because (ins: not enough pvpness to satisfy them) so they'd rather afk alt+tab+porn on blue and RNF about AC

[Damn]

I'll be on blue, with the rest of the sane people

Staring at a spawn point for 16 hour periods waiting to throw a javelin for a piece on your 9th alt that you'll never use to do anything other then barbiequest

Please define sanity because blue sounds pretty fucking insane

[captnamazing]

i'll be in san francisco at a swinger's party

[Humerox]

It's Saturday around Noon and the population is still <200.

Facts and such.

Blue was like that for quite a while, too. Heck, I remember when we all went ballistic when it went over 200.

You know, facts and such.

You folks that hate red so much you just HAVE to come into a thread that has nothing to do with you to tell people you supposedly don't care about how much you don't care about them is pretty cool and normal. All the population increases red has had have come from blue. If you're not interested, fine. We ain't talking to you. We're talking to people like the ones who have come to us and stayed to become part of OUR community.

Thanks.

[Mistle]

You mean a thread posted on the blue boards instead of your own? Yeah how dare blue players read and respond to it.

[Champion_Standing]

So many mad bluebies

[Gimp]

You mean a thread posted on the blue boards instead of your own? Yeah how dare blue players read and respond to it.


^

I think most of us are perfectly happy on blue. Hell, I even have red a shot but it was like being in a huge kiddy ball pit with grown ass men calling each other fire giants and saying "pras" every 15 seconds.

[Primos]

I encourage the Red players to go try out Darkfall or DAoC and see how much 'Pras' there is to go around.

EQ was built to be a PvE game. Get that terrible EQ PvP out of here.

http://i0.wp.com/dudeism.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Laughable-Man.jpg

[Slathar]

I encourage the Red players to go try out Darkfall or DAoC and see how much 'Pras' there is to go around.

EQ was built to be a PvE game. Get that terrible EQ PvP out of here.

http://i0.wp.com/dudeism.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Laughable-Man.jpg

was eq meant to have a complex legal document governing dragon encounters? nope. its time to drop EC tunnel fashionquest and play with the big boys.

red players skill level is through the roof in comparison to blue.

[Primos]

was eq meant to have a complex legal document governing dragon encounters? nope. its time to drop EC tunnel fashionquest and play with the big boys.

red players skill level is through the roof in comparison to blue.

I guess you missed the point. I play Darkfall for PvP, I play P99 Blue because it only requires 20% of my attention. Red server PvP is...laughable.

[Mead]

I guess you missed the point. I play Darkfall for PvP, I play P99 Blue because it only requires 20% of my attention. Red server PvP is...laughable.

You expect him to comprehend simple concepts? Come on now.

[Swish]

see you both on Velious launch night.

[Monty405]

I am interested in gaining strength and courage to engage in dialogue with the opposite sex. Will playing on Red99 give me the confidence I need in life to improve my life and form lasting intimate relationships?

[thufir]

red players skill level is through the roof in comparison to blue.

this is known as "damning with faint praise"

[blammo]

I guess you missed the point. I play Darkfall for PvP, I play P99 Blue because it only requires 20% of my attention. Red server PvP is...laughable.

this is a common excuse used by betas hehe

[Kengo]

this is a common excuse used by betas hehe

Says the guy who just said, "hehe."

EQ PvP sucks. Compare it to any other game that was built around PvP and it really is a joke. If you never played DAoC near release, you have no idea what PvP is.

Watching two melee "fight" on here is quite hilarious though.

[Swish]

Page 10, seeing new people in the gfay area a lot - chances are people have seen this thread and wanted to give it a go.

[feanan]

God, I would love it if all these red threads would make the populations of the servers flip.

Sadly, I doubt more than a few trickle over, and most don't stay.

Will be interesting to see the populations of both servers when velious comes out. Not including the r99 head start of course.

[Tameth]

I am interested in gaining strength and courage to engage in dialogue with the opposite sex. Will playing on Red99 give me the confidence I need in life to improve my life and form lasting intimate relationships?

yes. the choice is yours

[Humerox]

You mean a thread posted on the blue boards instead of your own? Yeah how dare blue players read and respond to it.

What do you mean my own? I been here since 2009, newbie. This whole damn project is my own.

:cool:

[Mistle]

Six years on here and you still have to steal other people's shticks.

[Humerox]

Six years on here and you still have to steal other people's shticks.

Sorry for stealing your shticks, dude.

[Humerox]

EQ PvP sucks. Compare it to any other game that was built around PvP and it really is a joke. If you never played DAoC near release, you have no idea what PvP is.

Watching two melee "fight" on here is quite hilarious though.

Only if you want to be a solo god. EQ PvP is all about tactics if you do it right and it takes teamwork. THAT'S what makes it fun. Unless you're a wizard. Then you're allowed to be a hit and run hero.

[Sixpence]

calling each other fire giants and saying "pras" every 15seconds.

That made me Lol.

[Sixpence]

I joined red after coming back to the game.

I started off blue, but I sat there after awhile wondering why I was gathering items to beat content I already knew I could beat. It's not like this game takes an extraordinary amount of skill to play. It's just very time consuming and unforgiving if you make a mistake, unlike most MMORPG of today, which is the nostalgic appeal.

At least on red it feels like I'm acquiring gear for an actual purpose. Attacking and being attacked gives me an excitement I just can't get fighting scripted mobs. The threat of losing whatever coined I earned before the encounter gives me a urgency to live at all costs, instead of just knowing there's a cleric no more then a zone away I can purchase a rez from if shit goes bad.

And I don't get where the idea that the reds community are a bunch of pvp ganking tards. Nicest people I've met on p99. There are bad apples on every server, but I barely see any on red. And so far I haven't encountered a single person come up to the spawn I'm camping and just claim it's his, trying to skew arbitrary rules to favor why he suddenly owns a camp you've been at for 4 hours. So far for me it's always been people either asking me if I'm camping said mob, then wishing me luck when I say yes. Or its people asking me for a duel for the spot, which again so far has been done fairly with both parties letting the other get to full mana/health before starting.

I have yet to hit the end game pvp, so perhaps that's different. But so far leveling to 38 has been nothing but great things.

^^This pretty much sums up my experience to date on Red. Well said.

[EQNoob]

Nah, not enough killing. If I want to pvp I hope onto GTA Online, and have a healthy pool of people to kill. Whether it be via my insurgent pick up with a friend or in a jet. Hell even on foot.

Most of the camps I do are out of the way and afk camps to level alts. I did my time in HS and Seb to the point that I'm set for quite awhile.

[Primos]

I joined red after coming back to the game.

I started off blue, but I sat there after awhile wondering why I was gathering items to beat content I already knew I could beat. It's not like this game takes an extraordinary amount of skill to play. It's just very time consuming and unforgiving if you make a mistake, unlike most MMORPG of today, which is the nostalgic appeal.

At least on red it feels like I'm acquiring gear for an actual purpose. Attacking and being attacked gives me an excitement I just can't get fighting scripted mobs. The threat of losing whatever coined I earned before the encounter gives me a urgency to live at all costs, instead of just knowing there's a cleric no more then a zone away I can purchase a rez from if shit goes bad.

And I don't get where the idea that the reds community are a bunch of pvp ganking tards. Nicest people I've met on p99. There are bad apples on every server, but I barely see any on red. And so far I haven't encountered a single person come up to the spawn I'm camping and just claim it's his, trying to skew arbitrary rules to favor why he suddenly owns a camp you've been at for 4 hours. So far for me it's always been people either asking me if I'm camping said mob, then wishing me luck when I say yes. Or its people asking me for a duel for the spot, which again so far has been done fairly with both parties letting the other get to full mana/health before starting.

I have yet to hit the end game pvp, so perhaps that's different. But so far leveling to 38 has been nothing but great things.

Why should the gear you wear be a major determining factor of how well you perform in PvP? That sounds very backwards. The reason why PvP in games like Dark Age of Camelot and Darkfall is unparalleled is because your skill as a player always outweighs the gear you wear.

Try killing a naked player in Darkfall who can move and aim better than you. It doesn't matter what gear you're wearing. But at least if you beat them you know it was a true measure of your personal skill and not because of your gear. It's silly to come on Blue forums and downplay the server and its settings when your version of PvP is pretty mediocre itself.

[Primos]

Except no one in MMORPG are running around naked. Even In DAOC gear Is a factor, or else there wouldn't be a point in leveling to acquire said gear.

Every piece of gear makes you that much more effective in combat. If I ever want to reach the pinnacle of PvP combat, I will need the gear to survive those encounters would I not? End game pvp is where it takes the most skill to pvp, correct? It's silly to act like end game gear isn't a factor in this.

Unless you want to forever pvp at the lowest and least meaningful levels, how Is wanting to experience the end game PvP, where skill matters the most, mediocre?

It looks like the 'naked' part gave you tunnel vision. Gear should never overshadow player skill in a PvP game, period. In other PvP games of value and substance you can have significantly inferior gear and still be effective if your skill level is up to par.

Let's not substitute player strategy, dexterity and acumen with an outside element like gear - because then the time you spend hoarding a camp to get a piece of gear starts to inject itself into PvP at its core. Where it doesn't belong.

[Primos]

Except no one in MMORPG are running around naked. Even In DAOC gear Is a factor, or else there wouldn't be a point in leveling to acquire said gear.

Every piece of gear makes you that much more effective in combat. If I ever want to reach the pinnacle of PvP combat, I will need the gear to survive those encounters would I not? End game pvp is where it takes the most skill to pvp, correct? It's silly to act like end game gear isn't a factor in this.

Unless you want to forever pvp at the lowest and least meaningful levels, how Is wanting to experience the end game PvP, where skill matters the most, mediocre?

And DAoC gear at lvl 50 is all the same across all classes. There isn't a veeshan'a peak in that game that enables you to procure game-changing gear.

[Barkingturtle]

And DAoC gear at lvl 50 is all the same across all classes.

Sounds like a pretty bad RPG, to be honest. I mean, character development(through skills, levels, gear, etc) is a pillar of the genre. I wouldn't play an RPG where the characters are homogenized to such a degree. I also don't require an even playing field.

Honestly, if you hate gear imbalance so much, why wouldn't you just play Street Fighter for your PvP fix?

[Primos]

Sounds like a pretty bad RPG, to be honest. I mean, character development(through skills, levels, gear, etc) is a pillar of the genre. I wouldn't play an RPG where the characters are homogenized to such a degree. I also don't require an even playing field.

Honestly, if you hate gear imbalance so much, why wouldn't you just play Street Fighter for your PvP fix?

It's a very one-dimensional perspective to think that a PvP MMORPG is bad because it's devoid of boilerplate PvE components like levels, gear, etc. The game was made to be largely focused on PvP combat. By injecting gear into the mix it detracts from the 'Player' part. A player that thinks, moves, strategizes.

DAoC at its highest competitive level focused on 8 versus 8 fights and strategy. Classes, positioning, timing, etc were all non-PvE factors that could change the tide of battle. If we were to inject game-changing items/gear into gameplay then it would dilute the human element.

Anyway, done with this silly thread. I said my part.

[Barkingturtle]

DAoC at its highest competitive level focused on 8 versus 8 fights and strategy. Classes, positioning, timing, etc were all non-PvE factors that could change the tide of battle. If we were to inject game-changing items/gear into gameplay then it would dilute the human element.

Anyway, done with this silly thread. I said my part.

Good move, bowing out and admitting defeat in the face of my superior logic.

Seriously though, you're not describing a more strategic experience. You're describing a game where the most important factors pursuant to victory are dexterity and latency. It's cookie-cutter shit. It's arcade shit. It's basically rock-paper-scissors. Personally, I prefer something more cerebral.

[Swish]

Good move, bowing out and admitting defeat in the face of my superior logic.

Seriously though, you're not describing a more strategic experience. You're describing a game where the most important factors pursuant to victory are dexterity and latency. It's cookie-cutter shit. It's arcade shit. It's basically rock-paper-scissors. Personally, I prefer something more cerebral.

This is what happens when you can't pvp... it's a keyboard war, I see both combatants are well versed here, must be blue server veterans.

[Tiggles]

That promos guy is fucking dumb.

[Slathar]

It's a very one-dimensional perspective to think that a PvP MMORPG is bad because it's devoid of boilerplate PvE components like levels, gear, etc. The game was made to be largely focused on PvP combat. By injecting gear into the mix it detracts from the 'Player' part. A player that thinks, moves, strategizes.

DAoC at its highest competitive level focused on 8 versus 8 fights and strategy. Classes, positioning, timing, etc were all non-PvE factors that could change the tide of battle. If we were to inject game-changing items/gear into gameplay then it would dilute the human element.

Anyway, done with this silly thread. I said my part.

lol idiot firegiant got wrekt by red battle veterans and lords of everquest. pras red pras everquest pvp pras rogean pras Obama pras nilberg.

I DONT SEE ANYONE PLAYING D-A-FUCKING-O-C NERD

l8er firegiant

pras

[Champion_Standing]

Eq is just bad in general, u got 2 choices rly stare at walls on blue for 19 hours straight to get 1.5% of a lvl or maybe get ganked on red while you get multiple lvls in a few hours.

[Synthlol]

The problem with Red is that when you actually have a life, it's very nice to be able to AFK and not worry about some nerd murdering your character.

[Slathar]

The problem with Red is that when you actually have a life, it's very nice to be able to AFK and not worry about some nerd murdering your character.

yes camping out takes 30 seconds. that's too nerdy to do on red though.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

It's simple, Sisters and Brothers.

Only low T beta cucks, key turners and back peddlers go to blue.

Everyone else. All those who seek challenge, sprint up the highest summits and love the feeling that comes with conquering the impossible - Lady Red welcomes you with her open battle-proven arms.

Rejoice, Red Norrath! We are the righteous few warriors ordained in the blood of our enemies!!

This guy gets it.

[Pheer]

swish maybe you should try dressing up like firiona vie and handing out flyers on the streets


might have more success with that than these circlejerk threads

[Lionsfan616]

Sounds like a pretty bad RPG, to be honest. I mean, character development(through skills, levels, gear, etc) is a pillar of the genre. I wouldn't play an RPG where the characters are homogenized to such a degree. I also don't require an even playing field.

Honestly, if you hate gear imbalance so much, why wouldn't you just play Street Fighter for your PvP fix?

You must have never played DAoC, probably the best pvp in a game ive played. Skill, traits, and gear all mattered in pvp, and it was much harder to twink characters in low levels because they gear would actually become damaged and break if you were to low. Although, AoE mez was the bane of my existence there. Ill never forget those nights defending Hadrian's Wall.

In EQ, atleast sub 50 levels, there is nothing you can do against a twink character no matter how much skill you have. If youre a caster its far worse because a spell will never land. I have found that casters get the shortest end of the stick because of the way MR is set up and those pumices :/

[Swish]

swish maybe you should try dressing up like firiona vie and handing out flyers on the streets


might have more success with that than these circlejerk threads

This isn't my thread, I'm just posting in it. Do you think this approach would really work?

http://imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/07/15/Untitled.png

[JOCKJAMS]

[QUOTE=RaptorDisaster;1966525]I started on Red before switching to Blue. Reasons I switched:

- Red is barren. Groups are amazing, but as a cleric I still went entire days without a single group.

I wouldn't start cleric first on box. Start a toon that can solo well, get him to 50s, get guilded, establish guild status, get cleric geared/pl'ed because every guild wants a cleric no matter what.

[Tiggles]

[QUOTE=RaptorDisaster;1966525]I started on Red before switching to Blue. Reasons I switched:

- Red is barren. Groups are amazing, but as a cleric I still went entire days without a single group.

I wouldn't start cleric first on box. Start a toon that can solo well, get him to 50s, get guilded, establish guild status, get cleric geared/pl'ed because every guild wants a cleric no matter what.

Don't think it's that bad honestly. I do suggest joining a guild as soon as possible and making groups not sitting there lfg.

A cleric can go from 1-60 easily

[Swish]

Thunderdome probably a good bet for leveling/forming groups at the moment.

[Kengo]

[QUOTE=JOCKJAMS;1974880]

Don't think it's that bad honestly. I do suggest joining a guild as soon as possible and making groups not sitting there lfg.

A cleric can go from 1-60 easily

It's that bad. You may not have felt it with the mass TMO plat exchange reroll, but if you don't join the server during a leveling gravy train, you're SOL. And for anyone that can't play during prime time, GG BRAH.

This is the main reason I quit Red. It's fun to be able to camp pretty much anything you want, but after a while it just gets boring. Oh and PvP? Make a Wizard and roll your face on the keyboard.

[Swish]

[QUOTE=Tiggles;1974938]

It's that bad. You may not have felt it with the mass TMO plat exchange reroll, but if you don't join the server during a leveling gravy train, you're SOL. And for anyone that can't play during prime time, GG BRAH.

This is the main reason I quit Red. It's fun to be able to camp pretty much anything you want, but after a while it just gets boring. Oh and PvP? Make a Wizard and roll your face on the keyboard.

I wonder how I got 3-4 characters into the 50s on euro play times? Groups are there, you just need to be more proactive in getting people together. Sitting in a zone with your LFG tag up doesn't cut it on red.

[Thana8088]

Y'all a bunch of fail quoters. Someone gonna get sued! :p

[Destron]

Sitting in a zone with your LFG tag up doesn't cut it on red.

Doesn't cut it on Blue either.

[Kengo]

I wonder how I got 3-4 characters into the 50s on euro play times? Groups are there, you just need to be more proactive in getting people together. Sitting in a zone with your LFG tag up doesn't cut it on red.

Judging by your 11k posts, I'd assume you have enough time to find groups because you play extensive time slots. And again, yes, if you're lucky when you join up, you can find a group. Truth is, the population ain't there. Hopefully it gets better with Velious though.

[Destron]

Blue is the USA
Red is Canada

Canada thinks they have it figured out, but they don't have to deal with the same number of people that the USA does.

[Champion_Standing]

Thunderdome probably a good bet for leveling/forming groups at the moment.

Have a char in thunderdome and can confirm its mostly people bitching about not being able to find groups. I think I have gotten maybe 2 guild groups since I joined and they were both ones that I set up and invited everyone to. So if im not online GL.

[iruinedyourday]

[QUOTE=Tiggles;1974938]

It's that bad. You may not have felt it with the mass TMO plat exchange reroll, but if you don't join the server during a leveling gravy train, you're SOL. And for anyone that can't play during prime time, GG BRAH.

This is the main reason I quit Red. It's fun to be able to camp pretty much anything you want, but after a while it just gets boring. Oh and PvP? Make a Wizard and roll your face on the keyboard.

No, Tiggles is right a cleric can get to 60 easily if they are Learned in group formation.. No matter what time of day... Hell off hours are WAY better on red as you can xp anywhere with no ganking!

[Swish]

My solo guide for clerics is more relevant for red than blue these days (due to overcrowding on blue). Needs some wis/mana gear to help with the mana pool but totally possible to solo if it came to it.

[Lady Julae]

It's simple, Sisters and Brothers.

Only low T beta cucks, key turners and back peddlers go to blue.

Everyone else. All those who seek challenge, sprint up the highest summits and love the feeling that comes with conquering the impossible - Lady Red welcomes you with her open battle-proven arms.

Rejoice, Red Norrath! We are the righteous few warriors ordained in the blood of our enemies!!

300% XP Bonus is challenging?

[India]

300% XP Bonus is challenging?

About as challenging as no exp bonus on blue.

That pvp though,, yes it's challenging.

[Swish]

300% XP Bonus is challenging?

Whining about the red server XP, watch what happens if you get double XP on blue...

[Kengo]

That pvp though,, yes it's challenging.

So challenging, can't wait to guess where he's going to skip to next. Who needs a shadowstep spell when it's already built in!

[Lady Julae]

About as challenging as no exp bonus on blue.

Please, entertain me and elaborate on this. I'll go make popcorn.


That pvp though, yes it's challenging.

From what I have been reading, that is if you can find PvP on Red.



Whining about the red server XP, watch what happens if you get double XP on blue...

Who's whining? I'm just stating fact, a 300% XP bonus is not challenging on an underpopulated PvP Server. Second, Double XP is a 100% XP Bonus, and happens once in a blue moon (no pun) on blue.

[India]

Please, entertain me and elaborate on this. I'll go make popcorn.

Really, you need help understanding this? Regardless of the server, PVE isn't challenging on either. The 300% exp bonus for PVE on red just makes PVE more tolerable.



From what I have been reading, that is if you can find PvP on Red.
The server is top heavy, no doubt about that, however if you really want pvp, it's not terribly hard to find at any level.

[Magnar]

EverQuest is a hard game...the mob mechanics are all so different...every one of them.

I've literally leveled a character 5 levels in one night while black-out drunk at my keyboard and didn't even realize it.

#GoOutsideAndGetSomeSun2015

[Damn]

Please, entertain me and elaborate on this. I'll go make popcorn.




From what I have been reading, that is if you can find PvP on Red.





Who's whining? I'm just stating fact, a 300% XP bonus is not challenging on an underpopulated PvP Server. Second, Double XP is a 100% XP Bonus, and happens once in a blue moon (no pun) on blue.

i have a fungus wearing ragebringer in every level bracket

sounds like whoever told you that there was no pvp did the majority of their leveling in gorge of king xorb or the bear pits

[Lionsfan616]

i have a fungus wearing ragebringer in every level bracket

sounds like whoever told you that there was no pvp did the majority of their leveling in gorge of king xorb or the bear pits

Oh, so you're the twink that is murdering us casters in rags while we are trying to level our first characters in a group. Now i know where to find the pvp at least.

[Prismaticshop]

Do you think Red99 will exceed 500 on velious release day?

[Sixpence]

It's bound to Prism.

[Swish]

http://imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/07/17/ezgif-4123405116.gif

[Bboboo]

The amount of tears from red server during August will be obnoxious.

[Destron]

EverQuest is a hard game...the mob mechanics are all so different...every one of them.

I've literally leveled a character 5 levels in one night while black-out drunk at my keyboard and didn't even realize it.

#GoOutsideAndGetSomeSun2015

Go to Rehab, drunk loser.

[JurisDictum]

I would consider red if

1) there was at least 500 on regularly

2) If i didn't have a job

Otherwise...why all the stress so you can compete with the same 20-40 people over and over?
Very few players actually had a good PvP mentality on live. People seemed to think of things in terms of how effective they were at killing people 3v1 before they zone, or using 60 clerics to CH their de-leveled alts etc... These servers are never the contest of skill people make it out to be.

[Swish]

skill is subjective isn't it?

I mean on blue you can term "skill" as how quickly/efficiently you can use wordplay to oust people from a camp you want to take... or to tell everyone how 40-50 concurrent applicants to a single guild represents a healthy Class R raid scene.

[TheBiznessTZ]

300% XP Bonus is challenging?

300% XP BONUS doesn't mean much if you can't kill any merbs if you got another group pvping you and kicking you outta that zone / following you. Just ask TMO about that.

[iruinedyourday]

guys!! did you know,, the LESS people there are on the server, the MORE wealth and power you can gain on your own?

did you know you can farm stuff for 3-3.5 the value it is on BLUE!? DId you know if you farm hill giants, and make 1k an hour, that equates to THREE k an hour?! DID YOU KNOW THAT the LESS people there are, the LESS competition you have for HILL GIANTS?!

Join red today, or when you do, youll regret not doing it sooner. a 30 pop server is a server you can have 1 of every class with an epic for everyone. Join Today.

Operators are standing by .99 copper the first minuet, 1.99 each additional minuet.

[Champion_Standing]

Most important option that you should all consider:

http://twentyinparis.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/open-door-field.jpg

[Synthlol]

yes camping out takes 30 seconds. that's too nerdy to do on red though.

Whoosh!

[Portasaurus]

Most important option that you should all consider:

http://twentyinparis.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/open-door-field.jpg

Yes! Champion Standing brings up a very important point: always close your door when playing Everquest!! Otherwise flies and bugs and other assorted vermin can enter your playing habitat, and (if large enough) accidentally unplug your computer right at the pinnacle of your 48 hour poop sock, or worse knock over your mountain dew can pyramid!

I mean look at all that grass right up against the door! I'll bet it's just teeming with little critters and worms.

[captnamazing]

Yes! Champion Standing brings up a very important point: always close your door when playing Everquest!! Otherwise flies and bugs and other assorted vermin can enter your playing habitat, and (if large enough) accidentally unplug your computer right at the pinnacle of your 48 hour poop sock, or worse knock over your mountain dew can pyramid!

I mean look at all that grass right up against the door! I'll bet it's just teeming with little critters and worms.

This is the best post in the thread. All you maggots pay heed to the Glory That Is God.

[Champion_Standing]

Yes! Champion Standing brings up a very important point: always close your door when playing Everquest!! Otherwise flies and bugs and other assorted vermin can enter your playing habitat, and (if large enough) accidentally unplug your computer right at the pinnacle of your 48 hour poop sock, or worse knock over your mountain dew can pyramid!

I mean look at all that grass right up against the door! I'll bet it's just teeming with little critters and worms.

Are you trying to tell me that most P99ers aren't playing in a filthy vermin infested basement as it is? The trash piles alone around most of your gaming "Desks" probably house dozens of generations of various creatures.

[Slathar]

have you considered red?

[Slathar]

it's time

[Swish]

that's a good idea Slathar, more people should do that

[Swish]

Has everyone booked the day off work/etc for red launch night?