View Full Version : GG fizzled out. TMO & Empire can make new PnP?
minakto
06-21-2015, 08:08 AM
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fred schnarf
06-21-2015, 01:12 PM
blues want to be blue to everyone HEH
welcome to red
Tameth
06-21-2015, 01:21 PM
GG was the bluest guild imaginable. Twice the numbers. Ran from PvP. Housed the RMTers and hackers. Good riddance.
druid1
06-21-2015, 01:42 PM
GG was the bluest guild imaginable. Twice the numbers. Ran from PvP. Housed the RMTers and hackers. Good riddance.
perfect description of aimchat and there warmbody parade called empire
Tapatio
06-21-2015, 01:58 PM
As a member of GG I'm saddened that our leadership is having so much interguild drama over fake dkp system.
Most of my friends alrdy hopped over to empire/tmo.
Doors
06-21-2015, 02:03 PM
GG was the bluest guild imaginable. Twice the numbers. Ran from PvP. Housed the RMTers and hackers. Good riddance.
It's funny because it's true.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 02:25 PM
I believe that had good guys not formed <Fresh> would still be on the server and pushing 100 50 + toons that didn't hate each other. Oh well congratulations I hope you all feel like it was a huge mistake and kick yourselves in the asses over it.
Recycled Children
06-21-2015, 02:31 PM
I believe that had good guys not formed <Fresh> would still be on the server and pushing 100 50 + toons that didn't hate each other. Oh well congratulations I hope you all feel like it was a huge mistake and kick yourselves in the asses over it.
You're the EQuivalent of that guy who still wears his high school sports jacket years after graduating. Let it go dude.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 02:39 PM
As opposed to yourself letting go of <charles bronson> ? Your sig betrays you.
TheBiznessTZ
06-21-2015, 02:42 PM
I believe that had good guys not formed <Fresh> would still be on the server and pushing 100 50 + toons that didn't hate each other. Oh well congratulations I hope you all feel like it was a huge mistake and kick yourselves in the asses over it.
i agree with Max, <Fresh> could've been pretty big right when i left in april they was pushing 40-50 consistent raid #'s. The snout rot destroyed yet another up and coming guild. GG azrael.
Efwan
06-21-2015, 02:44 PM
I believe that had good guys not formed <Fresh> would still be on the server and pushing 100 50 + toons that didn't hate each other. Oh well congratulations I hope you all feel like it was a huge mistake and kick yourselves in the asses over it.
In reality.... No.
SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 02:44 PM
You're the EQuivalent of that guy who still wears his high school sports jacket years after graduating. Let it go dude.
lol'd
Colgate
06-21-2015, 02:52 PM
working closely with TMO leadership to create a new play nice policy
keep your eyes out this week for a rough draft
Even though I was done dirty by max. Fresh was still my top exprience on this server. Everyone I made friends with in that guild, Im still friends with. Was a great group of normal and cool people.
TheBiznessTZ
06-21-2015, 02:57 PM
working closely with TMO leadership to create a new play nice policy
keep your eyes out this week for a rough draft
pras it
Tradesonred
06-21-2015, 03:19 PM
Nothing stopping you guys from realizing consolidating under Lite's boot was a bad idea and reforming something else
fred schnarf
06-21-2015, 03:21 PM
I believe that had good guys not formed <Fresh> would still be on the server and pushing 100 50 + toons that didn't hate each other. Oh well congratulations I hope you all feel like it was a huge mistake and kick yourselves in the asses over it.
that would never work because the guild invited level 1's
no one is kicking themselves in the ass, fresh is a leveling guild not a raiding guild.
iruinedyourday
06-21-2015, 03:36 PM
You're the EQuivalent of that guy who still wears his high school sports jacket years after graduating. Let it go dude.
I wear my Pony baseball league jacket. Has my name and my home town on it! A small was STILL too large for me as a kid so I found it in the closet as an adult in mint condish.
It's p goog, my pony jacket and me.
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 04:19 PM
good guys alive and well
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 04:26 PM
good guys alive and well
So see you at vs?
krazyGlue
06-21-2015, 04:29 PM
So see you at vs?
Not everyone is a super mega nerd and logs in for every mob the 5th year of kunark
Cecily
06-21-2015, 04:31 PM
Not a really big fan of NFP trading. It's not evil friendly and there's too many PKs.
Working on getting EC pvp-restricted. Stay tuned!
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 04:32 PM
Not a really big fan of NFP trading. It's not evil friendly and there's too many PKs.
Working on getting EC pvp-restricted. Stay tuned!
no way lol
krazyGlue
06-21-2015, 04:33 PM
Me and tamtam use the ot outpost from time to time . You should ask him about it
Cecily
06-21-2015, 04:34 PM
That sounds like a nice, safe place for 30k+ trades.
Bazia
06-21-2015, 04:35 PM
year 137 of kunark member of 82 robe club
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 04:35 PM
GG core ain't going anywhere. This thread is unproductive and should not be in server chat.
Max has kind of lost the plot, many former azrael members are sitting in Empire because Lite can no longer give them next in line loot rights. Good guys is currently powered by Friends, Fresh Officers who had their guild disbanded in their face and a handful of players who has opened their eyes to what Empire is all about and the professional level of RMT that has taken place on the server, many of which had helped put them originally into power (including myself).
oricalum
06-21-2015, 04:36 PM
Not a really big fan of NFP trading. It's not evil friendly and there's too many PKs.
Working on getting EC pvp-restricted. Stay tuned!
Sadly, NFP is owned and operated by The Purse Snatcher, and I do not think he is ready to give up his city yet.
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 04:37 PM
Me and tamtam use the ot outpost from time to time . You should ask him about it
Doors
06-21-2015, 04:38 PM
It's unfortunate you had the same failures end <Fresh> to form <Gay Guys> because honestly, it did nothing but hurt the server.
Lite literally gave up on it 3 weeks in. Maybe even less time than that. Then you have their other officers getting banned for RMTing. And during this course you had Lite distributing modified game files to members to circumvent AoN illusions, two boxing, intentional training, just a bunch of really scummy behavior this server doesn't need.
I would bet money a decent number of people end up going back to blue now that GGs is dead. Fresh was good for the server and we sat here telling you guys that these same people have failed time and time again to actually lead a successful guild. Nobody listened and the result is a diminished server.
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 04:40 PM
Good Guys alive and well, do not let above poster's slanderous post scare you away. He is a 60 rogue who usually does no damage to his opponent.
Edit: Above posters guild harbored 2 notorious rmt'ers Gyno and Ksah who are now banned, don't associate yourself with those people.
Doors
06-21-2015, 04:43 PM
This thread is unproductive and should not be in server chat.
This threads actually very productive. This example of poor leadership destroying server growth for their own selfish ambitions should be read by everyone here so the same mistakes aren't made again in the future.
People need to stop following two boxing, game file modifying, RMTing scum suckers around on this server.
Right now, TMO is the only other legit contending guild. I hope they stick it out. The worst possible thing they could end up doing is allying or merging with the scum of the server. I don't think they'll actually do this, but for the sake of future guilds, this thread should be read by everyone so it's finally understood that it's not only a waste of time working with former AZ, Friends, Drakar, Vapo (Banned for RMT) but also bad for the box over all.
The core people leading GGs are not people you want to follow.
QuantumZebra
06-21-2015, 04:43 PM
working closely with TMO leadership to create a new play nice policy
keep your eyes out this week for a rough draft
Good to hear!
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 04:43 PM
It's unfortunate you had the same failures end <Fresh> to form <Gay Guys> because honestly, it did nothing but hurt the server.
Lite literally gave up on it 3 weeks in. Maybe even less time than that. Then you have their other officers getting banned for RMTing. And during this course you had Lite distributing modified game files to members to circumvent AoN illusions, two boxing, intentional training, just a bunch of really scummy behavior this server doesn't need.
I would bet money a decent number of people end up going back to blue now that GGs is dead. Fresh was good for the server and we sat here telling you guys that these same people have failed time and time again to actually lead a successful guild. Nobody listened and the result is a diminished server.
Which officers got banned for RMT? Last I checked vapo wasn't an officer and sold his accounts and gear to someone he considered a pal because he was done with the game and was burnt by people he considered friends in empire.
Did you have any idea how little cash his account went for and which empire officers chipped in to buy it? His shit was cannibalised and sold for 10x the amount on the open (and closed) RMT market. Empire is run by professional level RMTers not just ppl who burn out and sell off the server.
Slathar
06-21-2015, 04:55 PM
lots of aspergers in this thread
i love training new players and chasing them off the server. im in empire.
grannock
06-21-2015, 05:02 PM
Slathar sounds mad that his new shithole guild is slightly worse than his last.
/cringe
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 05:03 PM
Slathar sounds mad that his new shithole guild is slightly worse than his last.
/cringe
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 05:04 PM
why are all these negative kdr people so talkative on the forums
like jesus go play the game and get better instead of trying to talk to the big boys
Tameth
06-21-2015, 05:07 PM
OT v safe place to do trades :D
GG alive and well, killing Ragefire... Kavruul's game-changing.
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 05:08 PM
why are all these negative kdr people so talkative on the forums
like jesus go play the game and get better instead of trying to talk to the big boys
It's the aimchat propaganda machine in full work. They are trying to shit up server chat with their negativity to kill off any competition to their 1-guild server.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 05:08 PM
Which officers got banned for RMT? Last I checked vapo wasn't an officer and sold his accounts and gear to someone he considered a pal because he was done with the game and was burnt by people he considered friends in empire.
Did you have any idea how little cash his account went for and which empire officers chipped in to buy it? His shit was cannibalised and sold for 10x the amount on the open (and closed) RMT market. Empire is run by professional level RMTers not just ppl who burn out and sell off the server.
Are Sektors/Lite involved with your guild? Brainz , sickpuppy, or wyclef? You don't know the people you are playing with and saying stuff like this is stupid because you're just as guilty of harboring rules breakers and detrimental players.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 05:10 PM
It's the aimchat propaganda machine in full work. They are trying to shit up server chat with their negativity to kill off any competition to their 1-guild server.
You supported merging 5 guilds into one to strip the server of a 6 guild status quo in favor of a two guild system. You are responsible for this.
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 05:10 PM
Are Sektors/Lite involved with your guild? Brainz , sickpuppy, or wyclef? You don't know the people you are playing with and saying stuff like this is stupid because you're just as guilty of harboring rules breakers and detrimental players.
To be fair drak defines the word retard.
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 05:10 PM
Are Sektors/Lite involved with your guild? Brainz , sickpuppy, or wyclef? You don't know the people you are playing with and saying stuff like this is stupid because you're just as guilty of harboring rules breakers and detrimental players.
Hell no, they are most likely playing anon in empire. They are no where to be seen.
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 05:11 PM
You supported merging 5 guilds into one to strip the server of a 6 guild status quo in favor of a two guild system. You are responsible for this.
Fresh was being used as a feeder guild for empire. You forget how mad you got from them poaching your members? Did you know how they laughed at you in ts as they killed your exp groups over and over in Seb while in an alliance with your guild?
Did you know it was me from behind the scenes trying to get the leadership to start treating you guys better? Remember how I joined your ts and tried to smooth out relations between the guilds cos empire/holo we're going full retard?
Get your head on straight max they are still using you.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 05:15 PM
<Fresh> was my guild and you have no right to speak to me about what it was being used as. <Fresh> was trying to bring a new culture to the server. It was the first guild on the server that cared about how members treated each other. You had nothing to do with it despite being offered invitations sent personally.
You have no appreciation for that. You cry foul at me for not wanting to play with Azrael/Friends while on your own quest for revenge. You don't give one solid shit what happens to the server, or what type of environment people have to play in. Your one concern is that Empire suffers.
Doors
06-21-2015, 05:16 PM
Drakar is clearly wrong and confused, probably still upset because he left holo over a sow sword.
This is now a two guild server. TMO is productive and will be competitive. This isn't the same band of fails that reforms up under a new tag every couple of months.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 05:21 PM
Fresh was being used as a feeder guild for empire. You forget how mad you got from them poaching your members? Did you know how they laughed at you in ts as they killed your exp groups over and over in Seb while in an alliance with your guild?
Did you know it was me from behind the scenes trying to get the leadership to start treating you guys better? Remember how I joined your ts and tried to smooth out relations between the guilds cos empire/holo we're going full retard?
Get your head on straight max they are still using you.
I uninstalled the game and don't speak to anyone from Empire. Fuck you and the high horse you're riding on. You are wrong in what you are doing as is everyone inside of good guys. It wasn't just a moral failure it was a strategic failure. You would have been plenty happy if I had let <Fresh> continue while good guys attacked anyone in the guild and attempted to use it as a feeder guild. The only difference is that good guys would help you get the revenge you are after.
You should take your own advice.
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 05:23 PM
<Fresh> was my guild and you have no right to speak to me about what it was being used as. <Fresh> was trying to bring a new culture to the server. It was the first guild on the server that cared about how members treated each other. You had nothing to do with it despite being offered invitations sent personally.
You have no appreciation for that. You cry foul at me for not wanting to play with Azrael/Friends while on your own quest for revenge. You don't give one solid shit what happens to the server, or what type of environment people have to play in. Your one concern is that Empire suffers.
Not really. I've seen what empire is about. I saw cast with their officers in ts during the whole account stripping fiasco. I found out how they blamed me for fucking with vapos account when burt was the worm that did it. I saw Gyno log on vapos chars and mq a soul leech while the officers led the raid to kill the SK epic mob.
I was booted for calling their guild corrupt as fuck. I was sticking around to see if they would even honour their pixel promise, which they didn't as predicted (wouldn't be the first time they done this either). Why would they give away top tier shit to someone that has pretty much earned it when people are trading cash or drugs for pixels behind the scenes?
minakto
06-21-2015, 05:38 PM
Which officers got banned for RMT? Last I checked vapo wasn't an officer .
How do i get more information or join?
Contact our leaders ingame, Gardur/Tala/Bats/Gelden/Jibeknn/Grinch
Visit us at goodguysr99.com and drop an application
Or come talk to us at ts.goodguysr99.com:4078
Sincerely,
Guild Mascot of < Good Guys > Ragnaros
Grinch was vapos char. Someone else drive him?
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 05:39 PM
Grinch was vapos char. Someone else drive him?
Yes strydur was driving him for a few weeks. He was an officer during this period.
minakto
06-21-2015, 05:46 PM
Yes strydur was driving him for a few weeks. He was an officer during this period.
Doesn't he have his own level 60 shadowknight?
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 05:53 PM
Doesn't he have his own level 60 shadowknight?
From what I've been told mirkuls was suspended due to empire petition quest. Seems like empire pretty rustled to be going to such extremes.
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 05:56 PM
Grinch was vapos char. Someone else drive him?
strydur you fucking idiot
minakto
06-21-2015, 05:56 PM
Ok, so Vaporize isn't an officer even though one of his characters were listed as one for GG?
Colgate
06-21-2015, 05:58 PM
saw gardur directly refer to vaporize as an officer right after he got banned
l8r
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 05:59 PM
Ok, so Vaporize isn't an officer even though one of his characters were listed as one for GG?
are you an idiot? strydur was maining Grinch for a long period of time
minakto
06-21-2015, 06:01 PM
are you an idiot? strydur was maining Grinch for a long period of time
You mean when Gyno allegedly RMT'ed him he was maining him?
So Gyno RMT'ed Vapo's accounts but let Strydur play it?
Something's not adding up.
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 06:03 PM
You are an idiot, Vaporize came back when Gyno gave him all his characters back, After the characters were back in vaporize's possession, he(VAPORIZE) let Strydur main and play Grinch
Tiggles
06-21-2015, 06:04 PM
As of yesterday I and a few other members of TMO have deguilded our Empire tagged toons in the spirit of neutrality.
We have a lot of respect for Empire and its members and we would consider any proposals to better our server.
The same goes for Good Guys and while they have been antagonistic towards us we will take our lumps and continue to level up and and eventually contest.
We have been recruiting and leveling and we have been pleasently surprised with the average quality of our recruits. We have also not been compromising and have already removed a few less savioury members already.
We are not Empire we are not Good Guys we are not the same toxic core group of people that have tanked guild upon guild. We are here to stay
Eslade
06-21-2015, 06:06 PM
Until caught for leadership level rmt.
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 06:07 PM
You are an idiot, Vaporize came back when Gyno gave him all his characters back, After the characters were back in vaporize's possession, he(VAPORIZE) let Strydur main and play Grinch
Pretty much this. Anyone who used ts knew vapo played onepunch and bosshog in raids.
Humerox
06-21-2015, 06:17 PM
As of yesterday I and a few other members of TMO have deguilded our Empire tagged toons in the spirit of neutrality.
We have a lot of respect for Empire and its members and we would consider any proposals to better our server.
The same goes for Good Guys and while they have been antagonistic towards us we will take our lumps and continue to level up and and eventually contest.
We have been recruiting and leveling and we have been pleasently surprised with the average quality of our recruits. We have also not been compromising and have already removed a few less savioury members already.
We are not Empire we are not Good Guys we are not the same toxic core group of people that have tanked guild upon guild. We are here to stay
you actually did what i wanted you to from the start...and although you had me worried at first your red cred just went way up imho
welcome to red, finally ;)
Redtrader
06-21-2015, 06:17 PM
You know its funny how much you complain about empire drakar, funny because if you had gotten that sow sword like you wanted you wouldn't have said anything and would have just kept on raiding.
What does that say about you that you will complain so much about an entire guild and have 20 different reasons for why they are a low class guild, firing off one after the other after the other ,but alternatively would have stuck around and acted like nothing was wrong if you had got it that pixel? You think its really about moral high-ground, or maybe that you didn't get that pixelated sword on that day?
I think the later, because you volunterally joined a guild with lite (caught rmting) and sektors (caught rmting) and various other people who are 100% confirmed to have practiced all of these things you allege the officers of empire engage in.
My opinion is your just a greedy scorned pixel whore drakar. You didn't get your precious pixels and all of your subsequent activities are a reflection of that, every single one. Have fun being a small fry in velious, no guild is going to want you after seeing your reaction to being denied a sow sword.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 06:20 PM
you actually did what i wanted you to from the start...and although you had me worried at first your red cred just went way up imho
welcome to red, finally ;)
Why is it a good thing for TMO to do their own thing but a bad thing for <Fresh> ?
Buhbuh
06-21-2015, 06:21 PM
oh you mean the 5 guilds that merged together and still to this day are in separate channels not participating or integrating with each other is failing?
didn't expect that
also didn't warn gardur of that exact scenario right before it happened because it's happened before
RIP GG
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 06:21 PM
Why is it a good thing for TMO to do their own thing but a bad thing for <Fresh> ?
You were the leader.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 06:31 PM
You were the leader.
I think that's more true than you realize. It all boiled down to Azrael figuring out a good way to make me look like the bad guy. I don't regret trying to improve the server.
I find it sickening that people from <Fresh> would want to play with people like Drakar who disparage their accomplishments openly on the forum every chance they get in order to legitimize this merge. <Fresh> wasn't just a feeder guild for Empire, or Azrael, it brought people to the server and underneath all of that we formed a core group of raiders that where vested in the development of new people. We all worked hard to form bonds with each other and to make raids happen.
I am sad that people are so eager to throw that away. I was not going to pit my guild against itself. People needed to see the truth and now they are.
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 06:33 PM
You know its funny how much you complain about empire drakar, funny because if you had gotten that sow sword like you wanted you wouldn't have said anything and would have just kept on raiding.
What does that say about you that you will complain so much about an entire guild and have 20 different reasons for why they are a low class guild, firing off one after the other after the other ,but alternatively would have stuck around and acted like nothing was wrong if you had got it that pixel? You think its really about moral high-ground, or maybe that you didn't get that pixelated sword on that day?
I think the later, because you volunterally joined a guild with lite (caught rmting) and sektors (caught rmting) and various other people who are 100% confirmed to have practiced all of these things you allege the officers of empire engage in.
My opinion is your just a greedy scorned pixel whore drakar. You didn't get your precious pixels and all of your subsequent activities are a reflection of that, every single one. Have fun being a small fry in velious, no guild is going to want you after seeing your reaction to being denied a sow sword.
I've been on this box for 3 years fool. Nihilum had a transparent DKP/Attendance system which clearly indicated where you were in the scheme of things. I raided for months knowing and respecting transparency and never complained about loot once.
I'm calling empire out for what it is. I was grateful that they took in my pals from Blaze/Smoke Break, but time and time again they have proven to be corrupt as fuck. Did you know Vapo loaned 500k to their guild to get them started? Many epic MQs, raw plat and items?
Did you know God's Work was the whole reason Empire/Holo came to power? They had an agreement with God's Work to provide a Crown of Rile and backstabbed them as part of the trade. Was it worth burning bridges over a crown, which they since have gotten over 20+?
I can wait in line for pixels, I just don't like it when people can jump the queue due to under the table deals. That shit shouldn't be on but is a regular theme in Empire. Stasis getting the first pair of Hoshkar boots after being in both Azrael and God's Work and openly griefing Holo every step of the way?
Colgate
06-21-2015, 06:37 PM
so do you have proof or what?
Humerox
06-21-2015, 06:39 PM
Why is it a good thing for TMO to do their own thing but a bad thing for <Fresh> ?
Never said that...I wasn't around for all the shit that went down. I loved <Fresh>. We had differing opinions about a few things but overall the objectives were the same. I'm betting you remember I wanted Tiggles to bring it to red too...the whole thing might have been different if <Fresh> had still been together.
It is what it is, tho. Ya can't cry over spilled milk. The only thing this server has needed the last few months is a clear opponent to <Empire>. People are trying to do that. <Fresh> would have taken the leftovers until Velious...but who knows afterward?
The advantage Tiggles has is that he plays politics well. That shit is even more cutthroat on blue, trust me. Reds are pretty black and white about shit.
Buhbuh
06-21-2015, 06:40 PM
In the spirit of consistency, I didn't think you were fit to be a leader near the end there when you pushed the neo-nazi garbo on the forums all day, Max.
I think, in a way, it undermined your own purpose (though I wouldn't say wholly). That pushed a lot of players into our arms out of just frustration. And Gardur wanted to usurp you as the leader (which everyone was hoping would be an amicable change/ agreement), but GG happened instead.
They're hemorrhaging members to us now at an even greater rate, but to be fair there was a good amount of that going on when you were projecting neo-nazism onto us.
Still, you're right that Fresh would've been better off if not involved in the merge.
working closely with TMO leadership to create a new play nice policy
keep your eyes out this week for a rough draft
Rotation on spawns probably lol
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 06:49 PM
In the spirit of consistency, I didn't think you were fit to be a leader near the end there when you pushed the neo-nazi garbo on the forums all day, Max.
I think, in a way, it undermined your own purpose (though I wouldn't say wholly). That pushed a lot of players into our arms out of just frustration. And Gardur wanted to usurp you as the leader (which everyone was hoping would be an amicable change/ agreement), but GG happened instead.
They're hemorrhaging members to us now at an even greater rate, but to be fair there was a good amount of that going on when you were projecting neo-nazism onto us.
Still, you're right that Fresh would've been better off if not involved in the merge.
The irony behind this is the majority of members that have gone to Empire from GG were ex-Azrael.
Anyone else finding humour in this?
Twainz, Andis, Mutant, Salaryman to just name a few...
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 06:55 PM
The irony behind this is the majority of members that have gone to Empire from GG were ex-Azrael.
Anyone else finding humour in this?
Twainz, Andis, Mutant, Salaryman to just name a few...
Aids
SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 06:55 PM
not sure who Buhbuh is but i find it hilarious when nobodies critique other guilds for trying to compete when all they do is join the winning guild :)
Buhbuh
06-21-2015, 06:56 PM
I've been on this box for 3 years fool. Nihilum had a transparent DKP/Attendance system which clearly indicated where you were in the scheme of things. I raided for months knowing and respecting transparency and never complained about loot once.
I'm calling empire out for what it is. I was grateful that they took in my pals from Blaze/Smoke Break, but time and time again they have proven to be corrupt as fuck. Did you know Vapo loaned 500k to their guild to get them started? Many epic MQs, raw plat and items?
Did you know God's Work was the whole reason Empire/Holo came to power? They had an agreement with God's Work to provide a Crown of Rile and backstabbed them as part of the trade. Was it worth burning bridges over a crown, which they since have gotten over 20+?
I can wait in line for pixels, I just don't like it when people can jump the queue due to under the table deals. That shit shouldn't be on but is a regular theme in Empire. Stasis getting the first pair of Hoshkar boots after being in both Azrael and God's Work and openly griefing Holo every step of the way?
If you actually think that guild had fair loot decisions when people like Rallyd, Mendan, Korbel, Hectorchrist and numerous other terrible PvPers were awarded AoN's, you've got something seriously wrong with your brain.
Nihilum (Nizzar) awarded based on "he's done his time," rather than someone who puts in more effort/ time helping others. They awarded Shrimp and Qazzaz crown of riles because they were highest on the DKP list. Those 2 are/ were not proactive players - they were warm bodies who didn't even know the zone layouts they were in half the time. They played like Pudge and Oppressor in Azrael on raids.
Vaporize was furious when Qazzaz and Shrimp were awarded those crowns (and over Qazzaz being awarded VS gauntlets just days later) based on time instead of measuring actual effort. Every raid was a select 12 or so people doing all the heavy lifting to make the raids go smoothly while everyone waited for their pixel pinatas. People with 50 less DKP that did 1000% more on raids/ after raids were passed up for shitters who "put in their time."
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 06:56 PM
Says samwise the nobody who plays for a month or two at a time to an officer of empire.
SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 06:57 PM
Says samwise the nobody who plays for a month or two at a time to an officer of empire.
if i had to guess he was probably in nilly then jump shipped to holo when they were banned. could be wrong.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 06:58 PM
If you actually think that guild had fair loot decisions when people like Rallyd, Mendan, Korbel, Hectorchrist and numerous other terrible PvPers were awarded AoN's, you've got something seriously wrong with your brain.
Nihilum (Nizzar) awarded based on "he's done his time," rather than someone who puts in more effort/ time helping others. They awarded Shrimp and Qazzaz crown of riles because they were highest on the DKP list. Those 2 are/ were not proactive players - they were warm bodies who didn't even know the zone layouts they were in half the time. They played like Pudge and Oppressor in Azrael on raids.
Vaporize was furious when Qazzaz and Shrimp were awarded those crowns (and over Qazzaz being awarded VS gauntlets just days later) based on time instead of measuring actual effort. Every raid was a select 12 or so people doing all the heavy lifting to make the raids go smoothly while everyone waited for their pixel pinatas. People with 50 less DKP that did 1000% more on raids/ after raids were passed up for shitters who "put in their time."
I was passed on at least 5 cloak of flakes over people who joined the guild after me. My friend Kairan who played for a month got one from nihilum a couple weeks in and i never got one during my 6 months with the guild. I lost sky shoulders to Vanco on his first plane of sky raid about 5 months into my tenure and 3 weeks into his.
SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 07:00 PM
I was passed on at least 5 cloak of flakes over people who joined the guild after me. My friend Kairan who played for a month got one from nihilum a couple weeks in and i never got one during my 6 months with the guild. I lost sky shoulders to Vanco on his first plane of sky raid about 5 months into my tenure and 3 weeks into his.
looks like the made the right choice. nizzar could tell you were gonna snap and de-level.
Slathar sounds mad that his new shithole guild is slightly worse than his last.
/cringe
Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Grannock 6720 17 31 0.55 0 1.16 Empire
6720 on a 300 man server LOL
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 07:02 PM
I really doubt he gave a shit about what I did with my toon after he was banned from playing here. The cloak of flakes that I was going to be awarded by the way, was the one that Agatha stole and resulted in him being kicked out of the guild.
SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 07:03 PM
obviously your time in nilly left you emotionally scarred. i recommend leaving this community forever or changing identities.
Buhbuh
06-21-2015, 07:03 PM
I really doubt he gave a shit about what I did with my toon after he was banned from playing here. The cloak of flakes that I was going to be awarded by the way, was the one that Agatha stole and resulted in him being kicked out of the guild.
Which was coincidentally ninja'd by Agatha over that exact same issue (a shitty loot system).
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 07:04 PM
cyren acts like he wasn't deepthroating the dukes dick for loot
what a loser
have some dignity
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 07:05 PM
Did GG kill a ragefire? Only time I see Ragnaros is after that glorious achievement. I honestly don't know who got it.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 07:06 PM
obviously your time in Azrael left you emotionally scarred. i recommend leaving this community forever or changing identities.
That's a bit closer to the truth now.
SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 07:06 PM
lol wasnt cyren some nobody nilly app. no wonder hes talking so much shit. dude has never had to struggle for loot. just joins whoever is winning at the time :P
some of these guys would be happy with one guild and no pvp. so weird.
Slathar
06-21-2015, 07:06 PM
Did GG kill a ragefire? Only time I see Ragnaros is after that glorious achievement. I honestly don't know who got it.
Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Mhoram 576 23 14 1.64 3 8.30 Empire
60 levels and 23 kills
LOL
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 07:07 PM
Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Mhoram 576 23 14 1.64 3 8.30 Empire
60 levels and 23 kills
LOL
Srs question can you link your mage?
Humerox
06-21-2015, 07:09 PM
you know what a mage is gonna look like no matter who's playing it lol
Slathar
06-21-2015, 07:09 PM
Srs question can you link your mage?
Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Tbag 544 45 9 5.00 13 8.14 Friends
more kills ranked higher than u better ratio
next question
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 07:10 PM
you know what a mage is gonna look like no matter who's playing it lol
I know, but he thinks it matters what a mages KDR is on this server but refuses to link his when asked.
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 07:12 PM
Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Tbag 544 45 9 5.00 13 8.14 Friends
more kills ranked higher than u better ratio
next question
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 07:13 PM
Damn I've killed you 2 of those 9 times. NEXT. Also what level is that guy?
Humerox
06-21-2015, 07:13 PM
Tbag a mage? FMR lol
Slathar
06-21-2015, 07:13 PM
Damn I've killed you 2 of those 9 times. NEXT. Also what level is that guy?
60 with more kills better ratio and ranked higher than you
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 07:15 PM
60 with more kills better ratio and ranked higher than you
Oh how many of those kills are lvl 60s
Buhbuh
06-21-2015, 07:15 PM
cyren acts like he wasn't deepthroating the dukes dick for loot
what a loser
have some dignity
speaking of gargling dick
honestly, someone that's repentant doesn't actively talk shit about the people they're trying to get penance from.
it also doesn't help that your signature on the forums is keeping up with the appearance that you aren't all that remorseful.
i warned you several times while in the guild that your little shit shows weren't going to get you anywhere you wanted to be. and you continued them even outside the guild.
it's more accurate to say that that's not a behavior that can be stopped by anyone - that's the player you are, because it's the one you've always been, and to be quite frank it's a player we don't want around.
I am not going to lie while I was in Holocaust I fed off the wrong people ( Exed, Akinn, Vibrate) and it reflected with my attitude, I constantly shat things up in raids pvping people, "falling off the island" I regret all of it and I know I cant take it back, I also drank some of other peoples koolaid and was under the impression you guys were running a huge rmt scheme and only mass recruited to benefit the core of holo friends..I guess its easy to blame other people for my issues and shit but I took the wrong paths and regret it, this is obviously a game that I probably take too seriously but I have a lot of time to contribute to this game and I don't want it going to an Agatha led guild or Azrael a guild who has no future plans and consistent leadership...I can change my behavior if you just give me a chance to show that I can control myself, you can post this quote on the forums to shame me I don't really care but this is my last stand, just try me out
Slathar
06-21-2015, 07:16 PM
Oh how many of those kills are lvl 60s
most people kill others as they level, most are 60
i have a higher kdr and im better at everything than you
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 07:19 PM
most people kill others as they level, most are 60
i have a higher kdr and im better at everything than you
No really how many level 60s. I didn't really pvp from 52-60 when I had my epic. Sure I could have got a nice amount of kills from random level 50s in oot too.
Slathar
06-21-2015, 07:21 PM
I didn't really pvp from 52-60.
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 07:22 PM
After dominating the low 50s bracket for months it really didn't appeal to me to do it on another character.
Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 07:29 PM
speaking of gargling dick
still waiting for the screenshots, you can edit quotes on the forums
credibility= 0
Uuruk
06-21-2015, 07:31 PM
still waiting for the screenshots, you can edit quotes on the forums
credibility= 0
Ok I laughed at that one I'll admit.
Slathar
06-21-2015, 07:38 PM
After dominating the low 50s bracket for months it really didn't appeal to me to do it on another character.
cringe
Farzo
06-21-2015, 08:44 PM
U fucks worry about loot 2 much. Shit happens when it happens.
I don't even have dragon haste yet buy don't care, one day I will drape myself in a glorious cloak of flames.
Farzo
06-21-2015, 08:45 PM
Also KDR means very little. Ragnoros screen drags and still has managed to be the 2nd highest death toll on this server.
SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 08:48 PM
kdr is for first person shooters.
Stasis01
06-21-2015, 09:23 PM
GG core ain't going anywhere. This thread is unproductive and should not be in server chat.
Max has kind of lost the plot, many former azrael members are sitting in Empire because Lite can no longer give them next in line loot rights. Good guys is currently powered by Friends, Fresh Officers who had their guild disbanded in their face and a handful of players who has opened their eyes to what Empire is all about and the professional level of RMT that has taken place on the server, many of which had helped put them originally into power (including myself).
I joined Azrael for all the loot it got, riight.
Lauka
06-21-2015, 09:32 PM
All ex-Fresh are always welcome in <Thunderdome>!
Recently I have felt nostalgic over <Fresh> and started looking at old forum posts.
This one especially resonated with me:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171751
"<Fresh> is now accepting all classes and levels. This will always be true! Don't worry about being turned away because you are casual, or don't know that much about the game. You are invited! We are here to help."
The original <Fresh> mission statement still rings to true to me and this is what I want <Thunderdome> to be. I want us to be about people, not about pixels.
If you have stopped playing or don't like where you are, join us - perhaps you will get that feeling of being home once again!
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 09:39 PM
All ex-Fresh are always welcome in <Thunderdome>!
Recently I have felt nostalgic over <Fresh> and started looking at old forum posts.
This one especially resonated with me:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171751
"<Fresh> is now accepting all classes and levels. This will always be true! Don't worry about being turned away because you are casual, or don't know that much about the game. You are invited! We are here to help."
The original <Fresh> mission statement still rings to true to me and this is what I want <Thunderdome> to be. I want us to be about people, not about pixels.
If you have stopped playing or don't like where you are, join us - perhaps you will get that feeling of being home once again!
I support Lauka and would be really happy to see a lot of <Fresh> in <Thunderdome>.
Redtrader
06-21-2015, 09:42 PM
You want irony Drakar? It's that after being banned from respectable guilds your forced to resort to hanging out with convicted Rmters for any hope of ever getting loot, something you swore in that last post you were against.
As for things like this
"Did you know Vapo loaned 500k to their guild to get them started"
I'll chalk that up as another baseless drakar accusation, just like the 20 others you made this week
Got proof?
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 10:38 PM
You want irony Drakar? It's that after being banned from respectable guilds your forced to resort to hanging out with convicted Rmters for any hope of ever getting loot, something you swore in that last post you were against.
As for things like this
"Did you know Vapo loaned 500k to their guild to get them started"
I'll chalk that up as another baseless drakar accusation, just like the 20 others you made this week
Got proof?
Seriously who are you again? I've got multiple near BIS characters and have done velious in classic, so I do not need to relive anything I 'missed out on'. I was in the top guild on Sullon Zek and farmed the shit out of classic and still have a primal velium brawl stick on my monk with ancient wyvern hide NToV armour, I have no reason to want in on Empire, as I've been there and done that. Criticising Empire on legitimate accusations does not ban me from all the top guilds, so why are you talking this crap for?
I call things as I see them. I never criticised Fresh as a guild, and I've never said anything negative about TMO as they were both legit guilds that I feel were positive for the server. I've helped both guilds with anon characters because that is how I roll.
Want proof that Vapo gave you guys about 500k worth of gear? Just talk to Terp or Cyren since they both approached him and distributed the MQs/pixels.
Don't know who you are in game, but you got a mouth on you and really are one clueless trashcan.
Colgate
06-21-2015, 10:43 PM
weird, "clueless trashcan" is exactly how most people would characterize you, drakar
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 11:05 PM
weird, "clueless trashcan" is exactly how most people would characterize you, drakar
Pretty sure every negative thing I have said about your guild is true with some of them being proven correct. Gyno/Ksah banned for RMT.
I never said Vapo was a saint, but he's a pal and we settled our differences over a rift caused by AimChat scummery in the first place.
What's next?
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 11:19 PM
I call things as I see them. I never criticised Fresh as a guild, and I've never said anything negative about TMO as they were both legit guilds that I feel were positive for the server. I've helped both guilds with anon characters because that is how I roll.
You blasted Fresh for being a feeder guild all day long today?
minakto
06-21-2015, 11:25 PM
Pretty sure every negative thing I have said about your guild is true with some of them being proven correct. Gyno/Ksah banned for RMT.
I never said Vapo was a saint, but he's a pal and we settled our differences over a rift caused by AimChat scummery in the first place.
What's next?
So you'll guild with people who are confirmed banned RMTers, as long as they're your friend.
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 11:26 PM
You blasted Fresh for being a feeder guild all day long today?
I blasted you as a person because you seemed to forget about being used and abused by Holocaust/Empire... I was reminding you that they were poaching your members and actively griefing your groups while laughing about it in TS and on the forums...
Are you mentally ok pal? Like legit concerned for ya.
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 11:27 PM
So you'll guild with people who are confirmed banned RMTers, as long as they're your friend.
Your guild leader is using an RMTed pre-nerf fungi staff; the only one not banned on the server, isn't he?
Where did all them chicken bones come from? I don't recall key people being awarded them in Nihilum.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 11:29 PM
I blasted you as a person because you seemed to forget about being used and abused by Holocaust/Empire... I was reminding you that they were poaching your members and actively griefing your groups while laughing about it in TS and on the forums...
Are you mentally ok pal? Like legit concerned for ya.
How exactly did I forgot about it? Was it by starting a war with them and refusing to have anything to do with them? You should go reread what you said, because you did not say it to me. You said it about Fresh because you have a low opinion of what that guild accomplished.
dontbanpls
06-21-2015, 11:30 PM
Your guild leader is using an RMTed pre-nerf fungi staff; the only one not banned on the server, isn't he? Just ask Rushx/Thrilla he can fill you in on the transaction that took place.
You are admitting that you trust someone who RMT'd because they are your friend and are saying something you want to hear.
iruinedyourday
06-21-2015, 11:31 PM
itt a bunch of people who have problems forumquesting, argue about whos the worst at forumquesting. pras guys!
Clark
06-21-2015, 11:41 PM
It's the aimchat propaganda machine in full work. They are trying to shit up server chat with their negativity to kill off any competition to their 1-guild server.
Drakaris
06-21-2015, 11:43 PM
You are admitting that you trust someone who RMT'd because they are your friend and are saying something you want to hear.
Trying to figure out why you are going hard in the paint... you uninstalled, so why do you care?
Why didn't you join the alliance? Lite rarely plays and half the people you have beef with are now wearing Empire tags...
Just saying...
Clark
06-21-2015, 11:43 PM
I uninstalled the game and don't speak to anyone from Empire. Fuck you and the high horse you're riding on. You are wrong in what you are doing as is everyone inside of good guys. It wasn't just a moral failure it was a strategic failure. You would have been plenty happy if I had let <Fresh> continue while good guys attacked anyone in the guild and attempted to use it as a feeder guild. The only difference is that good guys would help you get the revenge you are after.
You should take your own advice.
You sound incredibly mad.
Clark
06-21-2015, 11:49 PM
I think that's more true than you realize. It all boiled down to Azrael figuring out a good way to make me look like the bad guy. I don't regret trying to improve the server.
I find it sickening that people from <Fresh> would want to play with people like Drakar who disparage their accomplishments openly on the forum every chance they get in order to legitimize this merge. <Fresh> wasn't just a feeder guild for Empire, or Azrael, it brought people to the server and underneath all of that we formed a core group of raiders that where vested in the development of new people. We all worked hard to form bonds with each other and to make raids happen.
I am sad that people are so eager to throw that away. I was not going to pit my guild against itself. People needed to see the truth and now they are.
Dude you're insane. It was not that good, and completely unorganized.
If you weren't such a freaking bum, and set up good officers and a batphone it maybe could have gone somewhere. That guild literally had zero innovation or plans for the future; just invited people by the mass. The membership made the guild somewhat enjoyable. All while the leader and officers did nothing to improve anything ever.
#retarded
#takesnoblame
dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 12:00 AM
Dude you're insane. It was not that good, and completely unorganized.
If you weren't such a freaking bum, and set up good officers and a batphone it maybe could have gone somewhere. That guild literally had zero innovation or plans for the future; just invited people by the mass. The membership made the guild somewhat enjoyable. All while the leader and officers did nothing to improve anything ever.
#retarded
#takesnoblame
Who do you even play ? How can you comment on what the guild was when you where just some anon nobody who tunnel visions about bat phones? We routinely had 30+ people online for raids without any bat phone. If you had anything to do with the guild you would know that but you didn't.
Buhbuh
06-22-2015, 12:12 AM
drakar really has never been in the know on anything. same with people like syft.
they use random, off the wall conspiracies to fill the blanks where they're clueless
Drakaris
06-22-2015, 12:12 AM
Trying to figure out why you are going hard in the paint... you uninstalled, so why do you care?
Why didn't you join the alliance? Lite rarely plays and half the people you have beef with are now wearing Empire tags...
Just saying...
Who do you even play ? How can you comment on what the guild was when you where just some anon nobody who tunnel visions about bat phones? We routinely had 30+ people online for raids without any bat phone. If you had anything to do with the guild you would know that but you didn't.
You still need to answer me boi...
dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 12:15 AM
You don't know my reasons ? You spend plenty of time on here telling me I should put it all behind me and you don't even know what happened ? I don't believe you.
georgie
06-22-2015, 12:18 AM
no1 take this game more seriously than max
rofl
FAPhoenix
06-22-2015, 12:34 AM
Listening to Lite on teamspeak...he takes this game very seriously...weirdly serious. He is a good player though, with a great understanding of EQ, and GG needs that.
BeautBabeC
06-22-2015, 12:34 AM
In all honesty Max is likely the next p99 person to snap irl. His co-workers , family, and friends should be very nervous to get on this guys bad side.
HippoNipple
06-22-2015, 12:36 AM
I showed up to the last 4 raids for GG but didn't receive DKP. I noticed the logs weren't updated and when I asked an officer he said my contribution wasn't as big as his so he took my dragon points.
I'm going to app TMO and play with my cool and normal Fresh pals.
Drakaris
06-22-2015, 12:38 AM
I showed up to the last 4 raids for GG but didn't receive DKP. I noticed the logs weren't updated and when I asked an officer he said my contribution wasn't as big as his so he took my dragon points.
I'm going to app TMO and play with my cool and normal Fresh pals.
You shouldn't troll pal...
We all know you are empire dirty-whistle scum :)
georgie
06-22-2015, 12:59 AM
buddy is bad
Efwan
06-22-2015, 01:35 AM
I showed up to the last 4 raids for GG but didn't receive DKP. I noticed the logs weren't updated and when I asked an officer he said my contribution wasn't as big as his so he took my dragon points.
I'm going to app TMO and play with my cool and normal Fresh pals.
False.
Terpuntine
06-22-2015, 01:53 AM
I showed up to the last 4 raids for GG but didn't receive DKP. I noticed the logs weren't updated and when I asked an officer he said my contribution wasn't as big as his so he took my dragon points.
I'm going to app TMO and play with my cool and normal Fresh pals.
Damn man I'm real sorry they did that to you altho I am not too surprised. Good luck in TMO and if there is anything Empire can do for you then please let me know.
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 02:07 AM
empire has sent RL assassins to my house several times this week. ive had to pay armed security thousands of dollars a week to keep my family safe.
Drakaris
06-22-2015, 02:12 AM
empire has sent RL assassins to my house several times this week. ive had to pay armed security thousands of dollars a week to keep my family safe.
Say it aint so!
They were calling my work repeatedly in prank attempts but were hung up on because they couldn't pass as legitimate clients with their assbergers...
True story!
iiNGloriouS
06-22-2015, 02:34 AM
As opposed to yourself letting go of <charles bronson> ? Your sig betrays you.
Don't you fucking talk to Gnarly like that. He's a saint sponsored by the Boy Prince Revy.
georgie
06-22-2015, 02:40 AM
go wank to hentai
Grimjaw
06-22-2015, 02:44 AM
hmm if GG is dead then who exactly stomped Empire over Ragefire today?
Magikarp
06-22-2015, 03:19 AM
Say it aint so!
They were calling my work repeatedly in prank attempts but were hung up on because they couldn't pass as legitimate clients with their assbergers...
True story!
doubt it. calls to australia cost money yaw not worth it. u think we have jobs ???
Kaahbal
06-22-2015, 03:32 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YYi0O.jpg
Magikarp
06-22-2015, 03:37 AM
thx dante, all this unfair anti-empire racism is getting me down
i love ur games. mainly the first one tho
Runya
06-22-2015, 07:17 AM
Lotta crying on the forums......waaaaaaaaaaaah =p
Runya
06-22-2015, 07:20 AM
Empire posts gg is failing......follow by trolls.Are you Bros scared? Bored? Gay? Sound like a buncha broads.
heartbrand
06-22-2015, 07:22 AM
Not sure why threads like these are allowed in served chat but calling someone a f@* is cause for immediate forum suspension. Seems counter productive to server health even if I happen to be on a different elf team.
Runya
06-22-2015, 07:26 AM
Fag
Cecily
06-22-2015, 07:28 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YYi0O.jpg
Not sure that He man / emo combo really works for him.
Runya
06-22-2015, 07:30 AM
You blasted Fresh for being a feeder guild all day long today?
Fresh members seem to be really nice people
LostCause
06-22-2015, 07:33 AM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/249760b02245526798e352c12074b4cf/tumblr_inline_nnho3eshSJ1sqf2ij_500.gif
http://38.media.tumblr.com/249760b02245526798e352c12074b4cf/tumblr_inline_nnho3eshSJ1sqf2ij_500.gif
is that when she was hopped up on caffeine pills? i remember that episode
Kaahbal
06-22-2015, 09:46 AM
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11009220_10152947085892113_4373573491182656348_n.j pg?oh=708e610eee7b2205ed11e0a4f3d355b0&oe=5630F4DF
minakto
06-22-2015, 10:00 AM
Kaahbal, Littlegyno used to spread a rumor that you had a disease called "assburgers" but joked that you really did have an ass problem.
Can you comment on this?
Labanen
06-22-2015, 10:16 AM
So GG is dead and TMO with their all-powerful lvl 40ies and low 50ies are the new serious feeder/contender to Empire ?
I wonder how the guildscene looks like when/if winter comes.
Stasis01
06-22-2015, 10:16 AM
TMO play like 12 hrs a day I wouldn't rule them out.
heartbrand
06-22-2015, 10:18 AM
So GG is dead and TMO with their all-powerful lvl 40ies and low 50ies are the new serious feeder/contender to Empire ?
I wonder how the guildscene looks like when/if winter comes.
there was never going to be legit competition on this box. not possible with 250-300 max pop. you would need something closer to mid 400's low 500's to field a serious alternative. Velious, outside of small grief crews trying to attack CH chains or what not, will be a PVE farm fest.
Labanen
06-22-2015, 10:22 AM
TMO play like 12 hrs a day I wouldn't rule them out.im not, i ve met a couple of their exp groups. Seem to be good people that play alot.
there was never going to be legit competition on this box. not possible with 250-300 max pop. you would need something closer to mid 400's low 500's to field a serious alternative. Velious, outside of small grief crews trying to attack CH chains or what not, will be a PVE farm fest.300 people is probably enough, but this server is low on leadertypes, and high on angry mentally unstable adult babies. I think you might be right about velious though, at least at first. But it also means that low priority classic and kunark targets will stay up longer and offer a nicer environment for a Fresh-style guild, maybe something will rise up.
Humerox
06-22-2015, 10:22 AM
there was never going to be legit competition on this box. not possible with 250-300 max pop. you would need something closer to mid 400's low 500's to field a serious alternative. Velious, outside of small grief crews trying to attack CH chains or what not, will be a PVE farm fest.
Come Velious Red server will top 600 people I guarantee it. Every day the server population goes up now that TMO is here and these guild hoppers who make new guilds every 3 months will soon find themselves finally set adrift when the top two guilds no longer have to rely on them due to population.
Just sayin~ ;)
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 10:23 AM
waiting for empire to flip the switch and go full grief mode on tmo.
right now GG is the only thing keep them safe and they dont even realize it.
- someone who has been here a long time and has seen the server repeat it self over and over and over
heartbrand
06-22-2015, 10:23 AM
call me skeptical
Nadir
06-22-2015, 10:31 AM
Logged in last night, guild motd present, killed a dragon. This may just be empire trying to politicize and skew people away from an alternative.
<GG> still rolling. Drop an app.
Macdeth
06-22-2015, 10:33 AM
Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Tbag 544 45 9 5.00 13 8.14 Friends
more kills ranked higher than u better ratio
next question
Killer Killer's Guild The Dead The Dead's Guild Zone Points Time
Tbag Friends Daephyx Good Guys Ocean of Tears 0.66 June 04 2015 11:17:11 PM
Harsh, man. Trying to get Jboots for a good guy.
Syft-X
06-22-2015, 10:45 AM
I believe that had good guys not formed <Fresh> would still be on the server and pushing 100 50 + toons that didn't hate each other. Oh well congratulations I hope you all feel like it was a huge mistake and kick yourselves in the asses over it.
Fresh was able to take one Faydedar as a guild lifetime achievement. They had the heart but lacked geared members who could stand toe to toe with Empire.
Meanwhile Good Guys has contested and won tons of mobs. But who needs facts when you can randomly say butthurt shit on the forums.
Alarti0001
06-22-2015, 10:59 AM
TMO play like 12 hrs a day I wouldn't rule them out.
12 hours is a minimum requirement for application and will not guarantee you entry. 18 hours however....
Kaahbal
06-22-2015, 11:09 AM
Kaahbal, Littlegyno used to spread a rumor that you had a disease called "assburgers" but joked that you really did have an ass problem.
Can you comment on this?
The only assproblem i had got cured when that maggot gyno got banned 🐛
dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 01:12 PM
Syft maybe you should go read the <Fresh> guild recruitment forum so you can realize what you actually helped take away from the server since you have no idea.
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 01:12 PM
Syft maybe you should go read the <Fresh> guild recruitment forum so you can realize what you actually helped take away from the server since you have no idea.
seriously dude? will you ever let it go?
dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 01:15 PM
It boggles my mind that people from <Fresh> are comfortable being in a guild with people like you and syft who constantly belittle their accomplishments.
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 01:17 PM
accomplishments... everquest... emulated... 15 year old... elf sim
dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 01:20 PM
I'm sure it is difficult for you to understand since your biggest accomplishment here is posting some thread trying to get people to spend their time on another game every few months.
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 01:21 PM
I'm sure it is difficult for you to understand since your biggest accomplishment here is posting some thread trying to get people to spend their time on another game every few months.
you keep using the word accomplishments but i dont think you know what that means.
dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 01:30 PM
Does it mean making a guild like vae victis and then abandoning it as soon as things got difficult? Or maybe you feel accomplished when you post on the forum all day long. I saw you posting yesterday after I went to bed and here you have been posting now for a couple hours before I woke up. Feeling accomplished?
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 01:32 PM
vv was a leveling pvp guild. i never wanted to raid nor did i lead any raids. it was a fun project. what else you want me to say? its a game.
sorry i wake up at 6am dawg. gotta make breakfest for kid and head to work. cant sleep in all day.
Eslade
06-22-2015, 01:33 PM
I'd feel accomplished if I posted some people's phone numbers on craigslist while calling at all hours of the night.
Ezalor
06-22-2015, 01:58 PM
I'm sure it is difficult for you to understand since your biggest accomplishment here is posting some thread trying to get people to spend their time on another game every few months.
"i lead a guild on a bootleg elf game server"
please admit your "accomplishment" in public and let me know the reaction you get
heartbrand
06-22-2015, 01:58 PM
"i was a sales rep at enterprise and then got laid off"
please admit your "accomplishment" in public and let me know the reaction you get
Pikrib
06-22-2015, 02:01 PM
there was never going to be legit competition on this box. not possible with 250-300 max pop. you would need something closer to mid 400's low 500's to field a serious alternative. Velious, outside of small grief crews trying to attack CH chains or what not, will be a PVE farm fest.
Post sponsored by the leader of a semi successfull resistance guild when the pop was at 250-300 people.
heartbrand
06-22-2015, 02:02 PM
Says the leader of a semi successfull resistance guild when the pop was at 250-300 people.
The pop never broke 250 when Red Dawn was on box. At best it was high 100's during the height of the exp bonus. The second they made the exp on r99 the same exp rate as blue [no bonus], the pop plummeted to double digits.
Pikrib
06-22-2015, 02:05 PM
The pop never broke 250 when Red Dawn was on box. At best it was high 100's during the height of the exp bonus. The second they made the exp on r99 the same exp rate as blue [no bonus], the pop plummeted to double digits.
I thought we were 250 plus on repops, but yes the xp nerf was about the dumbest thing I have seen done to this server.
Tapatio
06-22-2015, 02:29 PM
Hehe anon nerd. From emu flora research team formed in 2010 losing job at car rental place.
Ezalor
06-22-2015, 02:33 PM
didnt understand a word of that, can u translate from "300 lbs and divorced" to english
Tapatio
06-22-2015, 02:34 PM
Cringe at the tryharding from secret larp account
Ezalor
06-22-2015, 02:35 PM
Feels goog not being 300 lbs and alone
Tapatio
06-22-2015, 02:38 PM
Agreed. Also having job and not being a closet fantasy theorycrafter.
Eslade
06-22-2015, 02:40 PM
What is the status of ligers in eq?
fred schnarf
06-22-2015, 04:39 PM
you keep using the word accomplishments but i dont think you know what that means.
lololololololololol:):):):)
Drakaris
06-22-2015, 04:48 PM
Post sponsored by the leader of a semi successfull resistance guild when the pop was at 250-300 people.
Yeah pop did get up there. It has always been a ratio of blue somewhere between 10 and 25%
Buhbuh
06-22-2015, 04:57 PM
waiting for empire to flip the switch and go full grief mode on tmo.
right now GG is the only thing keep them safe and they dont even realize it.
- someone who has been here a long time and has seen the server repeat it self over and over and over
i could have sworn TMO leadership told us that GG's biggest goal was to grief TMO off the server or something.
how are you keeping them safe? we want them to take the #2 spot asap.
dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 05:02 PM
Keep in mind that sam supports merging with azrael despite watching that play out over and over and over.
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 05:05 PM
what produces the most pvp. sure why not. also, who cares besides you?
Alarti0001
06-22-2015, 05:08 PM
i could have sworn TMO leadership told us that GG's biggest goal was to grief TMO off the server or something.
how are you keeping them safe? we want them to take the #2 spot asap.
GG and Empire should fight over who can keep us the most safe. MQ epic pieces would go a long way to ensure our safeness.
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 05:29 PM
i could have sworn TMO leadership told us that GG's biggest goal was to grief TMO off the server or something.
how are you keeping them safe? we want them to take the #2 spot asap.
damn tmo leadership knows more about my guild than me. yikes i must not be immersed or this is bullshit. besides random ganks, tmo isnt anyones focus on the server lol
that being said i hope they thrive.
fred schnarf
06-22-2015, 05:33 PM
i dont think some of you realizing empire zerg is 100+ and the only way you are going to get enough to fight them is get everyone else
we dont have enough people on the server here to work with.
daasgoot
06-22-2015, 05:33 PM
would not join TMO cuz fat
dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 05:34 PM
you have everyone else now and ur losing. maybe everyone else without the shitty leadership?
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 05:37 PM
you have everyone else now and ur losing. maybe everyone else without the shitty leadership?
who else is gonna lead an upcoming guild on a 15 year old elf sim?
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 05:38 PM
let's be real. most players are gonna go straight to the winning guild regardless of leadership. the path of least resistance is always the most popular one in mmos, especially in a less challenging game such as everquest.
fred schnarf
06-22-2015, 05:38 PM
we need a freshly unemployed community college All Star
preferably illegal or hooked on adderals
who do we have to work with? Maybe we can havea fucking election!!
daasgoot
06-22-2015, 05:38 PM
very few people that have the time/desire/ability to lead a guild on this server
Bazia
06-22-2015, 05:39 PM
im sure dozens are burning with desire to control the 2,000th trak bp drop
daasgoot
06-22-2015, 05:40 PM
im sure dozens are burning with desire to control the 2,000th trak bp drop
:D:D
dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 05:40 PM
I had better attendance in fresh with 60 raid level people than good guys has with 150 and I had the reputation of road kill.
SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 05:41 PM
I had better attendance in fresh with 60 raid level people than good guys has with 150 and I had the reputation of road kill.
what raid mobs did you guys get?
dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 05:43 PM
You can check the guild forum thread for all the information you desire. We got several and would have gotten more if things hadn't gone the way they did. The guild disbanded at its peak. Good guys will not follow that trend.
syzygyst
06-22-2015, 05:47 PM
You can check the guild forum thread for all the information you desire. We got several and would have gotten more if things hadn't gone the way they did. The guild disbanded at its peak. Good guys will not follow that trend.
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dontbanpls
06-22-2015, 05:48 PM
can u do one about making multiple forum accounts pretending to be different people next?
LostCause
06-22-2015, 06:16 PM
feels good being 500lbs playing everquest everyday.
contemptor
06-22-2015, 07:40 PM
I had better attendance in fresh with 60 raid level people than good guys has with 150 and I had the reputation of road kill.
I think your post count is higher than your raids lead^10. You said you uninstalled. Move on bro, you just look so sad. Find something else that makes you happy, knitting or gardening maybe? Or if you need the attention, maybe seek out a local DnD club?
Macdeth
06-22-2015, 08:29 PM
Max, I sympathize that the server lost a great guild, but you did that, and I think it's a bit disingenuous to pretend you were leading anything when you hit disband.
syzygyst
06-22-2015, 08:48 PM
can u do one about making multiple forum accounts pretending to be different people next?
God you are such a fucking pussy MAx. YOU are te one who disbanded Fresh, on your fucking own, because you are spoiled, self-entitled little bitch. Blame no one but yourself.
This is you:
http://giphy.com/gifs/Pch8FiF08bc1G
contemptor
06-22-2015, 09:41 PM
Max, I sympathize that the server lost a great guild, but you did that, and I think it's a bit disingenuous to pretend you were leading anything when you hit disband.
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LostCause
06-22-2015, 10:23 PM
God you are such a fucking pussy MAx. YOU are te one who disbanded Fresh, on your fucking own, because you are spoiled, self-entitled little bitch. Blame no one but yourself.
This is you:
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l2 post.
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l2 post.
Hi Kimm
iiNGloriouS
06-22-2015, 11:16 PM
go wank to hentai
Naw ill just keep freefarming seafuries for 22 hours a day.
grannock
06-22-2015, 11:20 PM
Slathar and salem trying to stop alts from getting epics jn the hole instead of helping their guild contest an actual raid mob. No wonder gg cant get anything done, the friends are scared to fight more than 2 level 60's at a time.
Pikrib
06-23-2015, 08:26 AM
Slathar and salem trying to stop alts from getting epics jn the hole instead of helping their guild contest an actual raid mob. No wonder gg cant get anything done, the friends are scared to fight more than 2 level 60's at a time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8hT3oDDf6c
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Happy Salem and Slathar
Slathar
06-23-2015, 08:56 AM
Slathar and salem trying to stop alts from getting epics jn the hole instead of helping their guild contest an actual raid mob. No wonder gg cant get anything done, the friends are scared to fight more than 2 level 60's at a time.
you evac'd 7 people vs 3. and my guild got ragefire.
Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Grannock 6819 17 31 0.55 0 1.16 Empire
id evac too
Stasis01
06-23-2015, 09:27 AM
ragefire?
Slathar
06-23-2015, 09:31 AM
ragefire?
yea after your guild camped out from pvp we killed ragefire.
HippoNipple
06-23-2015, 09:37 AM
Why would Max keep Fresh going if it was just a feeder guild for a group of people he hated on this server? It amazes me how simple minded some of these ex Fresh are.
Stasis01
06-23-2015, 09:54 AM
Oh yeah that's the nagafen mob in Solb forgot for a few minutes.
Alarti0001
06-23-2015, 10:20 AM
yea after your guild camped out from pvp we killed ragefire.
I'm not sure but I think the point trying to made is... its ragefire.
Colgate
06-23-2015, 10:38 AM
didn't see a single good guys member at any of the 6 zones <Empire> raided today
what a shame
Guido
06-23-2015, 10:44 AM
didn't see a single good guys member at any of the 6 zones <Empire> raided today
what a shame
was gonna ask how repops went
Guido
06-23-2015, 10:46 AM
feels good controlling all the content with my new pals
sucks it took this long to see the lite
see what I did there
pras empire
Pikrib
06-23-2015, 10:46 AM
Tuesdays are my favorite days to FQ because of all the cranky, 0 sleep, + mad Empire posts.
Uuruk
06-23-2015, 10:48 AM
Must suck to be in dead guild.
Madbad
06-23-2015, 11:08 AM
Tuesdays are my favorite days to FQ because of all the cranky, 0 sleep, + mad Empire posts.
LMAO!
heartbrand
06-23-2015, 11:11 AM
Tuesdays are my favorite days to FQ because of all the cranky, 0 sleep, + mad Empire posts.
ur posts come off as pretty mad
Pikrib
06-23-2015, 11:36 AM
ur posts come off as pretty mad
Nah, all smiles even though I got no chance of a rile. :)
Runya
06-23-2015, 11:47 AM
Must suck to be in dead guild.
Better than being in the zerg
Alarti0001
06-23-2015, 12:01 PM
feels good controlling all the content with my new pals
sucks it took this long to see the lite
see what I did there
pras empire
Confirmed doesn't want competition.
Ezalor
06-23-2015, 12:06 PM
my post count comes off as pretty autistic
heartbrand
Posts: 8,459
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Ella`Ella
06-23-2015, 12:18 PM
Confirmed doesn't want competition.
No one really wants competition, Alarti.
Alarti0001
06-23-2015, 12:42 PM
No one really wants competition, Alarti.
I'm fine with that.. as long as those who don't stop lying about it.
derpcake
06-23-2015, 12:46 PM
No one really wants competition, Alarti.
I like competition as long as it comes in raw hide with bronze or worse.
Fine steel+ means its time to slam gate.
fred schnarf
06-23-2015, 12:51 PM
didn't see a single good guys member at any of the 6 zones <Empire> raided today
what a shame
what time did u raid them?
Genedin
06-23-2015, 12:57 PM
lol
grannock
06-23-2015, 01:25 PM
I want competition, much more fun looting the pixels when we buzzsaw you down rather than watch you all log off when the dragons spawn.
Seems like gg is the one who doesnt want competition, seeing they dont contest anything, and are relagated to vox and naggy while we clear vp tonight.
Tapatio
06-23-2015, 01:26 PM
If you look at their dkp it's all ragefire sky and royals.
Aka nothing more than fresh was doing by themselves.
Alarti0001
06-23-2015, 01:44 PM
I want competition, much more fun looting the pixels when we buzzsaw you down rather than watch you all log off when the dragons spawn.
Seems like gg is the one who doesnt want competition, seeing they dont contest anything, and are relagated to vox and naggy while we clear vp tonight.
Eh this seems a bit disingenuous. What time have the repops been pushed to?
fred schnarf
06-23-2015, 01:48 PM
grannock wants competition on the forums but not in game, dude only logs in for raid mobs and empires biggest fear is contesting every boss
why you think they slamming GG so hard on forums, because they are scared.
dontbanpls
06-23-2015, 01:50 PM
I think you misunderstand. This is the only place he can find good guys because you don't compete. That is not very scary at all.
Do you think it also scares him that the plan being used by good guys to compete is to leave the server and play eq2? I doubt that very much.
Eslade
06-23-2015, 01:51 PM
Pretty sure you with a mace scares lite
Uuruk
06-23-2015, 02:00 PM
Eh this seems a bit disingenuous. What time have the repops been pushed to?
While I understand what you are trying to say GG had a raid force and got 2 or 3 dragons when the timers got reset. They had no interest in letting the timers go either. We pushed Trak several hours this week to get it in a better time for raiding on both sides..
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