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SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 01:28 PM
never really played it but faction based world pvp sounds goog. its official tho, who's gonna try it?

nb4 fgt

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 01:29 PM
prof

https://www.everquest2.com/news/time-locked-expansion-servers-june-2015-update

Eslade
06-18-2015, 01:30 PM
I was there at launch. It sucks.

B4EQWASCOOL
06-18-2015, 01:31 PM
Have been thinking about it. EQ2 PvP has to be more complex/have a higher skill ceiling than 1, right?

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 01:31 PM
why? i had a shitty comp back then so it looked like shit. were you on the pve or pvp servers tho because i dont give a shit about pve.

Eslade
06-18-2015, 01:36 PM
Both. EQ2 sucked in general. How much open world pvp do you think you'll see with instances and multiple versions of the same zone available?

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 01:38 PM
i thought there was just some instance dungeons but the world was open (like wow was mostly open world but deadmines and other shit was instance)

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 01:39 PM
I was looking at it the other day and i like how many class/race combos there are and that you press more than 1 button as a melee.

Kergan
06-18-2015, 01:40 PM
I played EQ2 on the PVP server, it was pretty fun actually. Coercers are pretty funny, they get a debuff that makes you take damage when you spend a resource. One of the core abilities everyone gets is "sprint" which makes you run really fast until your endurance or whatever is used up. Coercer would drop that ability on someone running away and they'd take like 100% of their life in damage in a couple seconds and drop over dead.

EQ2 is basically an EQ/WoW hybrid.

snufzaimoverlord
06-18-2015, 01:43 PM
No consequence PvP is boring. Fps is better if that's your thing.

Eslade
06-18-2015, 01:45 PM
You can select a different instance of whatever zone you're in iirc. So if you don't like the people in commonlands, you go to another instance with different or less people.


I might still be sour from playing day 1. I was expecting an eq sequel and got a different mmo with everquest in its name.

LostCause
06-18-2015, 01:45 PM
i played on nagafen when eq2 first launched it was alright i can't say much tho since i only made it lvl 35 then quit.

B4EQWASCOOL
06-18-2015, 01:46 PM
Maybe the subscription will keep the dregs of society away. Gonna look more into this.

B4EQWASCOOL
06-18-2015, 01:47 PM
No consequence PvP is boring. Fps is better if that's your thing.

No consequence PvP. Can you elaborate.

Eslade
06-18-2015, 01:48 PM
No consequence PvP. Can you elaborate.

It's like here minus the corpse run.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 01:53 PM
not really consequences here with pnp and no xp loss.

Erati
06-18-2015, 01:54 PM
It's like here minus the corpse run.

there were corpse runs in EQ2 pvp - unless they changed it after I quit which was around the Kunark expansion

EQ2 PVP >>>>>> EQ1 pvp - the choices for fighting was way more dynamic than anything avail here. So much going on which could be good or bad thing I suppose as one could argue thats what makes this over here more 'pure'.

( epics were not even completed at that point for time frame reference )

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 01:54 PM
i guess it does suck that you cant wipe raids and such.

Clark
06-18-2015, 01:55 PM
I played a free verision for couple weeks maybe a couple years ago. Had some pay to win store crap that was a turn off. It was fun, but didn't seem good enough like Eslade said.

Clark
06-18-2015, 01:56 PM
Perhaps the classic version is better than the one I played though. I wonder what the population will be like hmm.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 01:57 PM
i wonder if the duke will be there.

Tassador
06-18-2015, 02:02 PM
Man after eq classic everything else was pure vomit including kunark and velious with the 600000000000 zillion hp mobs and the maxed out unbuffed equipment.

heartbrand
06-18-2015, 02:04 PM
EQ2 was great through EoF. Kunark was shit. PvP was amazing. Dunno who is talking about no consequences but they had contested world raid mobs with tons of PvP over them.

Uuruk
06-18-2015, 02:04 PM
never really played it but faction based world pvp sounds goog. its official tho, who's gonna try it?

nb4 fgt

reported for hate speech

Tapatio
06-18-2015, 02:06 PM
Wish there was a classic ever quest pvp server that emulated either SZ, VZ, or RZ.

Erati
06-18-2015, 02:07 PM
EQ2 was great through EoF. Kunark was shit. PvP was amazing. Dunno who is talking about no consequences but they had contested world raid mobs with tons of PvP over them.

Kingdom of Sky was the shit - and then Echoes of Faydwer solid

they did PVP pretty good if anyone experienced it during that era.

The communication to the other side via familiars was always hilarious

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 02:08 PM
Wish there was a classic ever quest pvp server that emulated either SZ, VZ, or RZ.

pras

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 02:08 PM
EQ2 was great through EoF. Kunark was shit. PvP was amazing. Dunno who is talking about no consequences but they had contested world raid mobs with tons of PvP over them.

thanks, you got me excited again

u gonna play or naw?

jibekn
06-18-2015, 02:16 PM
holy shit im down, classic eq2 was GGGGRRRRREAT!

Uuruk
06-18-2015, 02:19 PM
Less Jibekn is always a good thing.

Tassador
06-18-2015, 02:42 PM
Less Jibekn is always a good thing.

If you searched forums guy has retired/quit 10+ times; I doubt that eq2 would do the job.

Uuruk
06-18-2015, 02:48 PM
If you searched forums guy has retired/quit 10+ times; I doubt that eq2 would do the job.

damn

Genedin
06-18-2015, 03:17 PM
Wish there was a classic ever quest pvp server that emulated either SZ, VZ, or RZ.

Genedin
06-18-2015, 03:18 PM
I remember making a ranger day1 and back then they had a cool website that tracked things like highest dmg in one hit, highest heal, etc due to the group combo things that no one really understood yet. I had the highest hit on the server for my ranger for like a week and felt like a boss, then I quit cause i didn't like the game.

Nizzarr
06-18-2015, 03:23 PM
Hi.

Beta starts on the 7th of July. I'll be main tank for our good guild, if you want a good eq2 pvp/pve experience, hit me up. You know the name.

Anybody is welcome for the beta and if you're fun to be around/good at the game, you might earn yourself a raiding spot for release.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 03:24 PM
Hi.

Beta starts on the 7th of July. I'll be main tank for our good guild, if you want a good eq2 pvp/pve experience, hit me up. You know the name.

Anybody is welcome for the beta and if you're fun to be around/good at the game, you might earn yourself a raiding spot for release.

you have my sword, was rolling good already.

Uuruk
06-18-2015, 03:24 PM
Hi.

Beta starts on the 7th of July. I'll be main tank for our good guild, if you want a good eq2 pvp/pve experience, hit me up. You know the name.

Anybody is welcome for the beta and if you're fun to be around/good at the game, you might earn yourself a raiding spot for release.

daybreak gives 2 shits about RMT too. Win Win for you.

LoliPops
06-18-2015, 03:24 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4131/4961295435_651832bc0d_b.jpg

Genedin
06-18-2015, 03:26 PM
My lingering suspicion that Nizzar still lurks these forums has been confirmed.

Kergan
06-18-2015, 04:28 PM
daybreak gives 2 shits about RMT too. Win Win for you.

Nobody gives a shit about RMT anymore except emu servers. Almost every single game has a legit way to convert real life currency into game currency via 30 day game time consumable items, etc.

Guess what, it didn't ruin any of the games that have it (all Daybreak games, EVE, WoW, etc).

The false outrage over RMT is retarded.

Kergan
06-18-2015, 04:29 PM
Hi.

Beta starts on the 7th of July. I'll be main tank for our good guild, if you want a good eq2 pvp/pve experience, hit me up. You know the name.

Anybody is welcome for the beta and if you're fun to be around/good at the game, you might earn yourself a raiding spot for release.

Why good? Coercers are the shit!

Taboo
06-18-2015, 04:33 PM
Mass Mutagenic Outcast pvp battles back in the day. Oh the memories.

jibekn
06-18-2015, 04:41 PM
Hi.

Beta starts on the 7th of July. I'll be main tank for our good guild, if you want a good eq2 pvp/pve experience, hit me up. You know the name.

Anybody is welcome for the beta and if you're fun to be around/good at the game, you might earn yourself a raiding spot for release.

sign me up!

heartbrand
06-18-2015, 04:41 PM
I also played coercer. I will probably do so again.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 04:49 PM
im thinking dirge/trob (which ever bard is good) or ranger.

Drakaris
06-18-2015, 04:53 PM
daybreak gives 2 shits about RMT too. Win Win for you.

After its more than confirmed that gongshow is running around with an RMT pre nerd fungi staff and your officer core are running around with RMT aons. Wow.

Drakaris
06-18-2015, 04:54 PM
Hi.

Beta starts on the 7th of July. I'll be main tank for our good guild, if you want a good eq2 pvp/pve experience, hit me up. You know the name.

Anybody is welcome for the beta and if you're fun to be around/good at the game, you might earn yourself a raiding spot for release.

I'll be down for that. Will they have a traitor quest? I can only play iksar, iksar or iksar.

Tapatio
06-18-2015, 05:08 PM
How do you say cringe in the outback?

Drakaris
06-18-2015, 05:11 PM
How do you say cringe in the outback?

I'm in Sydney, maybe you should post the question on another forum?

LoliPops
06-18-2015, 05:13 PM
CRIKEY

iruinedyourday
06-18-2015, 05:19 PM
I cant remember why it sucked exactly but all I remember thinking was, this is not everquest.. when I tried it back then.

maybe if someone hacked it up and made an arena game out of it, it could be fun... but as a sequel to EQ, it was no EQ...

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 05:23 PM
so basically you want eq2 to be eq1 with updated graphics?

LoliPops
06-18-2015, 05:23 PM
http://allforfashiondesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/tt-8.jpg

iruinedyourday
06-18-2015, 05:38 PM
so basically you want eq2 to be eq1 with updated graphics?

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/animaljam/images/d/d2/Stepbrothers-yep-gif-1-.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140825004622

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18950

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 05:40 PM
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/animaljam/images/d/d2/Stepbrothers-yep-gif-1-.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140825004622

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18950

that does look pretty badass but classic eq is pretty stale as far as class abilities go. i press more buttons in mobas than i do eq nawmean.

iruinedyourday
06-18-2015, 05:43 PM
that does look pretty badass but classic eq is pretty stale as far as class abilities go. i press more buttons in mobas than i do eq nawmean.

true, I'm sure a good designer could re-balance all of the abilities to make it puuuurfect.

http://new2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/I+do+this+while+on+the+public+bathrooms+the+moment +_5c87271b0098703d764ddb4bd1160ce9.png

Drakaris
06-18-2015, 05:44 PM
Naw he recreated the eq world in a 3d modelling program. The game wouldn't play real time with that look. You will need to update the actual eq client graphics engine which is a huge ass job, which needs a dedicated dev team.

Nads
06-18-2015, 05:44 PM
Hi.

Beta starts on the 7th of July. I'll be main tank for our good guild, if you want a good eq2 pvp/pve experience, hit me up. You know the name.

Anybody is welcome for the beta and if you're fun to be around/good at the game, you might earn yourself a raiding spot for release.

Yes.

iruinedyourday
06-18-2015, 05:45 PM
Naw he recreated the eq world in a 3d modelling program. The game wouldn't play real time with that look. You will need to update the actual eq client graphics engine which is a huge ass job, which needs a dedicated dev team.

were talking about a fantasy version of eq2 here drak.. get w/ it.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 05:46 PM
Yes.

love your avatar.

one of my favorite pvp videos of all time is evil solaire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQJNv7ekl7Q

i pvp with the same setup usually.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 05:48 PM
i use havels boot and hands, the rest solaire armor with sun shield and estoc/some other sword

pras the sun

Nads
06-18-2015, 06:06 PM
i use havels boot and hands, the rest solaire armor with sun shield and estoc/some other sword

pras the sun

This is the build I use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4

Git gud.

(Pras the sun!)

Ezalor
06-18-2015, 06:08 PM
dark souls series so much better + funner than eq

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 06:40 PM
This is the build I use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4

Git gud.

(Pras the sun!)

lol giantdad is pgud but naw

lethdar
06-18-2015, 07:08 PM
Kergan we played eq2 together with the hate aussies right? Good times.

My favorite eq2 memory - briefly you didn't have an option to accept or deny resses. I remember running to blackburrow, training zonelines, zoning back in to res people back into it over and over. Oh the grief, those xp penalties were bad.

Farzo
06-18-2015, 07:15 PM
Kergan we played eq2 together with the hate aussies right? Good times.

My favorite eq2 memory - briefly you didn't have an option to accept or deny resses. I remember running to blackburrow, training zonelines, zoning back in to res people back into it over and over. Oh the grief, those xp penalties were bad.

Hate Aussies????

Jettison
06-18-2015, 07:31 PM
Coming from a hardcore EQ2 Raiding... I'm excited about this. VERY Excited actually.

Here are some raid videos I did in EQ2 back in the day for our guild Re Evolution.

http://www.youtube.com/eq2reevo

LostCause
06-18-2015, 07:33 PM
back then my comp was such shit so ill prob try it out now.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 07:34 PM
im messing around eq2 pvp server now.

name is sampop

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 07:35 PM
i picked good stating in kelethin, made a halfling bard.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 08:31 PM
meh downloading the patch taking forever, will be on later as download on demand makes the game run like shit

iiNGloriouS
06-18-2015, 10:18 PM
You can select a different instance of whatever zone you're in iirc. So if you don't like the people in commonlands, you go to another instance with different or less people.


I might still be sour from playing day 1. I was expecting an eq sequel and got a different mmo with everquest in its name.

Only if theres 50+ people in the zone. And that's just because they didn't want people crashing profusely. I remember dropping 700 bucks on a Geforce 8800 to play this.

iiNGloriouS
06-18-2015, 10:23 PM
im thinking dirge/trob (which ever bard is good) or ranger.

Here's the breakdown of the most op classes up to kunark when it changes a bit.

If they revert to old patches and for some reason don't have incomvat move speed like on release when rangers solod all the raid mobs.

Ranger
SK (when they get the reaver aa line)
Troub
Warden
Wiz
Assassin
Bruiser

All the classes are pretty good but SK ranger troub and warden trump everyone every xpac

Farzo
06-18-2015, 10:28 PM
When I played eq2 PvP druids/sks/pals were op

iiNGloriouS
06-18-2015, 10:31 PM
I'll be down for that. Will they have a traitor quest? I can only play iksar, iksar or iksar.

I maimed an iksar paladin. Just gotta do the betrayal questline. Takes about 3 hours.

Well worth it tho.

I hope my boys from Onyx come back and roll on the exiled side again. The most pvp for exiles

iiNGloriouS
06-18-2015, 10:34 PM
EQ2 was great through EoF. Kunark was shit. PvP was amazing. Dunno who is talking about no consequences but they had contested world raid mobs with tons of PvP over them.

I thought kunark was decent. Not as bad as you make it out to be. But KOS and EOF were definitely the best xpacs.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 10:37 PM
didnt know you were revy btw, thought you played a bard

iiNGloriouS
06-18-2015, 10:41 PM
didnt know you were revy btw, thought you played a bard

I used to. Jody was my bard. Chipp was my cleric.

Avatar doesn't give it away? :P

But ill definitely be playing this prog server. Idk what ill be rolling yet. So keep me updated with what faction you're going. Wanna push for server first prismatic, peacock questline and claymore.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 10:45 PM
I used to. Jody was my bard. Chipp was my cleric.

Avatar doesn't give it away? :P

But ill definitely be playing this prog server. Idk what ill be rolling yet. So keep me updated with what faction you're going. Wanna push for server first prismatic, peacock questline and claymore.

im always on the good side, looks like nizzarr is leading a guild on the good side as well.

so as far as i know good side is where us red99 scum are going. exile sounds cool for later down the road.

iiNGloriouS
06-18-2015, 11:52 PM
im always on the good side, looks like nizzarr is leading a guild on the good side as well.

so as far as i know good side is where us red99 scum are going. exile sounds cool for later down the road.

Ill prob roll good then. Was always Freeport or exile. If I see onyx with most of their old core, ill prob tag with them.

What you gonna roll pal? Cool part bout eq2 is healers actually get credit for kills towards titles so wouldn't mind playing melee warden or battle templar.

SamwiseRed
06-18-2015, 11:56 PM
troub or ranger im thinking

Ragnaros
06-18-2015, 11:58 PM
Im going Ranger, i cant wait to serve the duke with Sam

Kergan
06-19-2015, 12:25 AM
I leveled up a ranger to like level 80 when that was the max level, very fun class based around ranged damage instead of the garbage class they made it in EQ1. I think all the classes are kinda fun. I remember beastlords being pretty solid when they did that free character giveaway thing like 6 months ago, not sure where they are in the list now.

iiNGloriouS
06-19-2015, 12:33 AM
My dad and i solod every contested raid mob and a few instances during eq2s release due to them being able to cast everything on the run and there was no in/out of combat movespeed differences. Shit was gr8.

Even after nerfs they remained a good class that was a top 3 dps depending on the xpac. Always top 5 tho.

Beastlords wont be available til Age of Discovery. At least I hope so.

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 12:43 AM
there must be a ton of people trying to download eq2. shit has been slow all day and its not my connection. like only 1mb a sec on a 20k mb download.

Uuruk
06-19-2015, 12:50 AM
Rag rolling most op class. Say it ain't so

jibekn
06-19-2015, 09:26 AM
wizard

Kergan
06-19-2015, 10:17 AM
My dad and i solod every contested raid mob and a few instances during eq2s release due to them being able to cast everything on the run and there was no in/out of combat movespeed differences. Shit was gr8.

Even after nerfs they remained a good class that was a top 3 dps depending on the xpac. Always top 5 tho.

Beastlords wont be available til Age of Discovery. At least I hope so.

I know they were talking about leaving in the added classes, since they are things you gotta buy they want people to have access to them. I don't really see too much harm in it.

jibekn
06-19-2015, 11:02 AM
i shall name him, orran the human wizard

Kergan
06-19-2015, 11:12 AM
Decent mini-guide:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=167340554

Rompar
06-19-2015, 11:34 AM
Had a lot of fun on my bruiser in that exiled caved fighting both factions.

EQ2 pvp was very fun. The title system was pretty sweet too.

Master Rompar!

Tapatio
06-19-2015, 11:45 AM
Decent mini-guide:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=167340554

thx4share

fred schnarf
06-19-2015, 12:13 PM
No consequence PvP is boring. Fps is better if that's your thing.

ranking system and titles make it very fun once you actually have a title, theres 3 factions

Freeps ( Evil players )

Q's ( Good players )

Exiles who are either in between changing factions, or permanently exiled for pvp

Good and evil have a level range i think its 4 up or down, exiles have the same range, but an exile can be attacked by anyone

exiles can attack their own factions


If they have the same free to play models ill be on the server

Ill most likely be playing a SK with 4 necros and a defiler boxed

Last team on velious server was guardian warden and 4 wizards, was able to solo X2 epic mobs all the way up to endgame shit, was great being able to box instances too and it is very very easy to box eq2

Kergan
06-19-2015, 01:01 PM
Good chance it'll be behind the pay wall similar to EQ1 progression servers, which actually is a good thing to limit the amount of people 6 boxing and shit. Even so I've seen a couple people 12 boxing on Lockjaw because of the krono system, if you have a lot of wealth on a free to play server you can essentially buy your subscription with in-game plat and access the progression servers.

Vexenu
06-19-2015, 01:32 PM
I didn't play a ton of it, but EQ2 PvP was pretty fun from what I remember. I do recall the time to kill being really, really short in many cases, especially with a Scout class or Wizard involved and no healer present. I mean, I personally remember running around with my level locked 24 Wizard on Nagafen and one-shotting or two-shotting in-range players with the lvl 24 Master Ball of Fire nuke. Shit was pretty lolzy but kind of ridiculous. Scouts also killed people nearly as fast and chained knockdowns so they couldn't even fight back. I also remember having a melee Warden that was pretty beast and could 1v1 anyone due to a combination of decent damage and great heals.

All my PvP was at the lower level ranges though because I never got that deep into EQ2. Curious how the PvP played out at the high end on a guild vs guild level and how the class balance was at those levels. Anyone comment on that?

MaSQue
06-19-2015, 04:07 PM
never really played it but faction based world pvp sounds goog. its official tho, who's gonna try it?

nb4 fgt
yea but see the thing is ............ EQ2 is fucking horrible

HippoNipple
06-19-2015, 05:39 PM
Looks fun, I will give it a shot.

iiNGloriouS
06-19-2015, 06:04 PM
I know they were talking about leaving in the added classes, since they are things you gotta buy they want people to have access to them. I don't really see too much harm in it.

Considering they're the most unbalanced classes ever. Yes. Especially at early levels.

Plus not classic. Fuck those classes. Channeler was the most retarded idea for a class ever.

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 06:06 PM
judging from the thread, a lot of enemies about to become pals again. god bless everquest.

lite
06-19-2015, 06:21 PM
Hearing a lot of good things about this server. Doing beta.

iiNGloriouS
06-19-2015, 07:54 PM
Hearing a lot of good things about this server. Doing beta.

I bet youll play a troub... or an assassin/brig

bigbeng
06-19-2015, 08:19 PM
overseer Idontmiss will destroy you all!

lite
06-19-2015, 08:22 PM
I bet youll play a troub... or an assassin/brig

Would have to explain to me why you think that, as I haven't played the game before.

Colgate
06-19-2015, 08:23 PM
because you're one of those flavor of the month guys, i'd imagine

lite
06-19-2015, 09:03 PM
u traded an AoN to go monk when they could t staff for 18 seconds...

is fotm really something u r accusing someone else of?

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 09:08 PM
because you're one of those flavor of the month guys, i'd imagine

Refuses to play but the most OP class in the game, cries on bug reports for every other class to be nerfed daily. then accuses others of playing of playing FOTM classes.

I seriously think there must be two of you in there, no one person is that stupid.

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 09:09 PM
Refuses to play anything but the most OP class in the game, cries on bug reports for every other class to be nerfed daily. then accuses others of playing FOTM classes.

I seriously think there must be two of you in there, no one person is that stupid.

bah fucking phone glitches fixed before colgate goes into OCD autism mode.

bigbeng
06-19-2015, 09:11 PM
syft use to get rocked on eq2 lololz

Uuruk
06-19-2015, 09:13 PM
welp syft is here, time for the forums to be shitted up for the next 8 hours since this is his job.

georgie
06-19-2015, 09:16 PM
Don't explain ur self to him ! Syft, hes not worth it

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 09:31 PM
plz dont shit up my only successful thread in the last 2 years

bigbeng
06-19-2015, 09:34 PM
anyone with Posts: 8,063 can only have shit to say anyways!

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 09:35 PM
k now i have 8064

Colgate
06-19-2015, 09:39 PM
feels good picking a class and sticking with it through nerfs and buffs

because lite certainly didn't quit his bard after highsun nerf, didn't quit wanyo after the tstaff nerf, didn't quit novus after the critical and crippling nerf, and didn't quit brennard after the rogue poison and hitbox nerf

he ain't a flavor of the month player yowl

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 09:43 PM
couldnt imagine sticking to just one class for more than a month. eq so damn boring to me like that. more power to ya.

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 09:44 PM
feels good picking a class and sticking with it through nerfs and buffs

because lite certainly didn't quit his bard after highsun nerf, didn't quit wanyo after the tstaff nerf, didn't quit novus after the critical and crippling nerf, and didn't quit brennard after the rogue poison and hitbox nerf

he ain't a flavor of the month player yowl

You mean the most OP class on the box you cry on bug reports daily anytime someone tries to balance lmfao

Can't lvl without GM support

Can't PvP without zerg

Can't play with OP class

Jesus Christ kid what can you do without training wheels?

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 09:44 PM
i have mained zerg since i was a kid though so maybe i am a little autistic.

LostCause
06-19-2015, 09:45 PM
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo13/hapythots/funny%20gifs/KidGetsKicked.gif

Tomm Selleck
06-19-2015, 09:45 PM
You mean the most OP class on the box you cry on bug reports daily anytime someone tries to balance lmfao

Can't lvl without GM support

Can't PvP without zerg

Can't play with OP class

Jesus Christ kid what can you do without training wheels?

wat?

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 10:01 PM
wat?

Oh you didn't know Sirken awarded Colgate an AON at lvl 1. Oh yeaaahhhhh he never leveled Colgate he "luckily" rolled the highest out of a ton of other people at a GM event and was awarded an AON at lvl one. Nothing fishy it just so happened to be awarded by the GM who wanted Eunomia to handle his name change issue so it wouldn't show favoritism.

He then traded that AON to Smedy and then Sirken namechanged Smedy to Colgate and taaadaaaaa you have Colgate the lvl 60 monk.

So yea Colgate has actually never done a single thing here by himself everything he has was given to him by GM's.

Colgate
06-19-2015, 10:03 PM
used sirken's super secret GM version of /random 1000

and that's how i became the greatest everquest player in existence

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 10:06 PM
used sirken's super secret GM version of /random 1000

and that's how i became the greatest everquest player in existence

Good to see you don't deny it

Colgate
06-19-2015, 10:10 PM
you caught me dawg

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 10:21 PM
i was there when colgate won it. he was trolling the event and at the time, i think he was on sirkens bad side. i can confirm he actually won that aon they random luck (i rolled too and was sad when he beat me)

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 10:22 PM
thru random luck.

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 10:23 PM
nilly was so pissed, i think more aons were handed out during that event that were on the server at the time.

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 10:26 PM
i was there when colgate won it. he was trolling the event and at the time, i think he was on sirkens bad side. i can confirm he actually won that aon they random luck (i rolled too and was sad when he beat me)

Yea he was on bad terms with his longtime friend Fonzirelli he played with daily on VZ/TZ lmfao

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 10:28 PM
i have no idea what that means but he legit out rolled me on that one. i am just saying the original aon he got at the event was pure luck unless he gots /ran hacks

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 10:29 PM
i got 50 doses of guktan froglok illusion as my prize :(

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 10:30 PM
i have no idea what that means but he legit out rolled me on that one. i am just saying the original aon he got at the event was pure luck unless he gots /ran hacks

Don't need hacks you think a Gm can't write whatever they want but can broadcast in any color, chat jump into guildchats etc?

Fonzirelli=Sirken lol so you think he was on bad terms with his longtime friend from VZ/TZ?

LOL clueless much?

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 10:36 PM
dont think gm can broadcast someones roll, i saw it. im not defending colgates toxic behaviour towards GG but this particular instance, i think you are wrong. just because im a GG doesnt mean im gonna blindly side with my guildmates. if i wasnt there i wouldnt even argue this with you.

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 10:38 PM
this thread is about eq2 progression pvp server. da fuck is going on anyway.

rooro
06-19-2015, 10:39 PM
Nobody gives a shit about RMT anymore except emu servers. Almost every single game has a legit way to convert real life currency into game currency via 30 day game time consumable items, etc.

Guess what, it didn't ruin any of the games that have it (all Daybreak games, EVE, WoW, etc).

The false outrage over RMT is retarded.

RMT is when you get $ out of the game, like when you decide to sell your sword to someone for real $.

There's a sci-fi mmo out now that is designed to link your bank account to it.
So you can cash out anytime you decide to sell your weapons / equipment /resources,...whatever.

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 10:48 PM
dont think gm can broadcast someones roll, i saw it. im not defending colgates toxic behaviour towards GG but this particular instance, i think you are wrong. just because im a GG doesnt mean im gonna blindly side with my guildmates. if i wasnt there i wouldnt even argue this with you.

Your right dude they were on such bad terms that he legit won a AON and Sirken gave him namechange(which few people are given) to a name that violates naming policy and was designated RL attack on another player and it was all legit!

You put in your Empire app yet?

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 10:49 PM
Your right dude they were on such bad terms that he legit won a AON and Sirken gave him namechange(which few people are given) to a name that violates naming policy and was designated RL attack on another player and it was all legit!

You put in your Empire app yet?

wut? man you are fuckin crazy sometimes.

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 10:51 PM
youll never see me in the winning zerg, ever. not my playstyle. again you are throwing around baseless accusations. if you were at the event and saw the cirumstances, then maybe id be more inclined to listen to you but right now you are just flying off the handle.

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 10:53 PM
wut? man you are fuckin crazy sometimes.

Do you have a reading problem you first say they are on bad terms but they played together for a long time on VZ/TZ and Sirken gave him a namechange when he asked to a name that violates naming policy?

You pushing that Empire propaganda real hard, but thanks dude atleast Good guys members know not to give away what their doing when your in Ts now.

Colgate
06-19-2015, 10:55 PM
sometimes i'm amazed at the random shit you will make up

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 10:56 PM
you are really making yourself look like a nut. anyways back to eq2 nikka.

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 11:02 PM
you are really making yourself look like a nut. anyways back to eq2 nikka.

Yep you're right Sirken and colgate were on bad terms at the time. spy confirmed be less obvious next time.

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 11:07 PM
all i know is empire is probably smilin hard as hell at this. good lord man get a hold of yourself.

SamwiseRed
06-19-2015, 11:11 PM
how are resists in eq2? are there partials/full resists? what are some magic numbers for resists like 120mr is a good number for here.

Syft-X
06-19-2015, 11:18 PM
Spies are usually a pain in the ass to find glad I was able to root one out so easily.

Darksinga
06-19-2015, 11:52 PM
I had a level locked 32 or something Brigand on Nagafen. Would catch the griffons in the zone with track up, jump off the griffon when I had some one on track, glide down with my Arasai wings and gank people all day. Only got to Dreadnaught before I quit because there were hardly any people at that level range who had titles you could get infamy from.

EQ2 was the only game I'd ever played that the game didn't start at max level. Never got my brigand past 30s and had more fun on him then my max level warden.

SamwiseRed
06-20-2015, 12:00 AM
brigand is a rogue?

lethdar
06-20-2015, 12:11 AM
lolwut, do people actually think sirken = fonzerelli from vztz / sullon zek?

Sheriff
06-20-2015, 12:37 AM
EQ2 was fun and had two great things about it. 1 PVP board and 2 exp from PVP.

Kergan
06-20-2015, 02:10 AM
brigand is a rogue?

Brigand is like a tanky rogue, designed to attack from the front with stuns and shit. EQ2 has a lot of flavor in the classes, if you read that guide I posted it gives you a lot of good info on the differences between similar classes.

Honestly, I loved EQ2. The only reason I quit is because I didn't have any pals to play with anymore.

Magikarp
06-20-2015, 05:41 AM
just installed a f2p eq2 and romped around a bit. im pleased at how well they've preserved the core game unlike eq1 which had its mechanics totally altered.

as far as i can see they're going to be keeping many of the changes over the years in the time-locked servers ala eq1 ragefire

if that's true, you choose your class immediately upon creation and coercers (along with some of the other previously faction-restricted classes) can play both sides.. just fyi

some of the classes are still faction-restricted: paladins/SK & conj/necro for example, and so are races.

have not confirmed if the betrayal quest to change citizenship to the opposing faction is still implemented, but assuming so at this point.

Magikarp
06-20-2015, 05:52 AM
also: "No races or classes will be restricted from character create if you own them. They will all be playable at launch."

sarnak/fairy/twilight vampire beastlords & channelers (what are these even?) confirmed

i'm not a classic-o-phile myself. pretty stoked about this server

Snapple
06-20-2015, 07:05 AM
Spies are usually a pain in the ass to find glad I was able to root one out so easily.

lol this fuckin guy.



samwise is a saint and u live in an apartment above a garage in south jersey


I wonder whose side every1 will take.

iiNGloriouS
06-20-2015, 07:33 AM
u traded an AoN to go monk when they could t staff for 18 seconds...

is fotm really something u r accusing someone else of?

Troubadour is a caster based bard. They're all about kiting and buffing the nukers while dirge is their melee counterpart.

Assassin is like the pure dmg based rogue. Brigand is a huge debuffer as well as good dps.

iiNGloriouS
06-20-2015, 07:39 AM
Also Syft berging out on an irrelevant thread for his conspiracies.

You're so fucking obsessed over eq. Holy fuck get ahold of yourself.

Uuruk
06-20-2015, 07:49 AM
Has it been 8 hours yet? His forum shift has to be almost up. Hope he's not working overtime today.

Syft-X
06-20-2015, 08:02 AM
lol this fuckin guy.



samwise is a saint and u live in an apartment above a garage in south jersey


I wonder whose side every1 will take.

Another Empire defending Samwise...yup spy.

Uuruk
06-20-2015, 08:37 AM
Another Empire defending Samwise...yup spy.

No, it's just nobody likes you at all. We all wish you would get cancer and die.

Syft-X
06-20-2015, 08:43 AM
No, it's just nobody likes you at all. We all wish you would get cancer and die.

I actually suspected him for along time used to see him in hanging with empire then suddenly he was GG guys always defended Colgate and Nirgon on forums he's the perfect plant.

Uuruk
06-20-2015, 08:55 AM
I actually suspected him for along time used to see him in hanging with empire then suddenly he was GG guys always defended Colgate and Nirgon on forums he's the perfect plant.

Plant or not still getting all the content. Forum questing not going to help you get dragons pal.

iiNGloriouS
06-20-2015, 10:24 AM
Why would we need a spy lol

snufzaimoverlord
06-20-2015, 10:52 AM
How can Good Guys go wrong with cool and normal people like Syft in it?

syzygyst
06-20-2015, 11:03 AM
You turds complain all the time about Syft, but he honestly seems a lot smarter than the majority of you. What you malcontents call bergering s actually someone who genuinely gives a shit about a PVP server. I feel the same in many regards, because I DON'T think this should be the private pixel reserve for someone's childhood friend and his merry band of fucktard lootwhores.

Syft- Jersey

Syzygyst- Texas

Tassador
06-20-2015, 11:27 AM
We are all swyft at heart.

syzygyst
06-20-2015, 11:30 AM
We are all swyft at heart.

Indeed.

Doors
06-20-2015, 11:43 AM
Syft is an idiot who doesn't know anything and it's been proven multiple times on the boards.

He's also a shitty pvper and a bad guild member who refuses to help anyone because he's so afraid of getting YTed.

Sirken hosted a pvp night and right before the FFA he backed out of the ring and gated away. Then he logged on a level 1 and spammed global OOC talking shit for the remainder of the event.

Sorry to burst your bubble but people that do shit like that are trashcans plain and simple.

Knightt 2.0
06-20-2015, 11:48 AM
Syft is an idiot who doesn't know anything and it's been proven multiple times on the boards.

He's also a shitty pvper and a bad guild member who refuses to help anyone because he's so afraid of getting YTed.

Sirken hosted a pvp night and right before the FFA he backed out of the ring and gated away. Then he logged on a level 1 and spammed global OOC talking shit for the remainder of the event.

Sorry to burst your bubble but people that do shit like that are trashcans plain and simple.

I'll take 10 syft's over 1 fucking Doors any day

Ragnaros
06-20-2015, 12:25 PM
Syft is an idiot who doesn't know anything and it's been proven multiple times on the boards.

He's also a shitty pvper and a bad guild member who refuses to help anyone because he's so afraid of getting YTed.

Sirken hosted a pvp night and right before the FFA he backed out of the ring and gated away. Then he logged on a level 1 and spammed global OOC talking shit for the remainder of the event.

Sorry to burst your bubble but people that do shit like that are trashcans plain and simple.

I know you aren't talking about pvp
you are hilarious to watch on a rogue

Tapatio
06-20-2015, 12:25 PM
So are you (400 deaths)

fred schnarf
06-20-2015, 12:26 PM
Troubadour is a caster based bard. They're all about kiting and buffing the nukers while dirge is their melee counterpart.

Assassin is like the pure dmg based rogue. Brigand is a huge debuffer as well as good dps.

assassin is a positional based rogue with large cooldown high dmg backstabs

brigands do not rely on positions as much

HippoNipple
06-20-2015, 12:40 PM
Troubadour is a caster based bard. They're all about kiting and buffing the nukers while dirge is their melee counterpart.

Assassin is like the pure dmg based rogue. Brigand is a huge debuffer as well as good dps.

You seem pretty knowledgeable and there really isn't much info on classes back during classic.

I want to go scout. I want to go utility and be decent in PvP solo/small group.

What do you suggest. Looking through classes swashbuckler looked good to me.

Kergan
06-20-2015, 12:44 PM
just installed a f2p eq2 and romped around a bit. im pleased at how well they've preserved the core game unlike eq1 which had its mechanics totally altered.

as far as i can see they're going to be keeping many of the changes over the years in the time-locked servers ala eq1 ragefire

if that's true, you choose your class immediately upon creation and coercers (along with some of the other previously faction-restricted classes) can play both sides.. just fyi

some of the classes are still faction-restricted: paladins/SK & conj/necro for example, and so are races.

have not confirmed if the betrayal quest to change citizenship to the opposing faction is still implemented, but assuming so at this point.

Didn't know they removed some of the faction restrictions, interesting. The mentoring system still in place? That was the one of the best ways I've seen in an MMO to play with pals who decide to show up to the party late.

Knightt 2.0
06-20-2015, 12:46 PM
You seem pretty knowledgeable and there really isn't much info on classes back during classic.

I want to go scout. I want to go utility and be decent in PvP solo/small group.

What do you suggest. Looking through classes swashbuckler looked good to me.
Warden or fury all day

LostCause
06-20-2015, 12:57 PM
just don't expect any of the classes to be like eq 1

fred schnarf
06-20-2015, 02:03 PM
Has it been 8 hours yet? His forum shift has to be almost up. Hope he's not working overtime today.

you are averaging 26 posts per day hammertime might want to ease up

rooro
06-20-2015, 03:22 PM
dark souls series so much better + funner than eq

i love the souls series pvp , but the new Bloodbored pvp is disappointing.

there must be a ton of people trying to download eq2. shit has been slow all day and its not my connection. like only 1mb a sec on a
20k mb download.

i only had to download around 300mb then was able to play. it downloads the game while you play:)

SamwiseRed
06-20-2015, 04:36 PM
i love the souls series pvp , but the new Bloodbored pvp is disappointing.



i only had to download around 300mb then was able to play. it downloads the game while you play:)

ya i tried the DL while playing and the game ran terrible. i let it download over night and all is wall. I am really digging the diversity in classes.

SamwiseRed
06-20-2015, 04:37 PM
i was pretty sure i wanted to play a scout class but it looks like scout is going to be the popular choice. i may need to support some bros as a priest or something. going to try out the wis and int casters tonight.

iiNGloriouS
06-20-2015, 04:38 PM
Didn't know they removed some of the faction restrictions, interesting. The mentoring system still in place? That was the one of the best ways I've seen in an MMO to play with pals who decide to show up to the party late.

Yea they eventually removed the requirements for the classes.

Could have mystics, templars etc on Freeport and vice versa. It sounds like that is going to stay in, but I would prefer BL/Channeler to stay out. I've heard theyre retardedly broken and the BL healing-type pet is better than most healers sadly.

Mentoring still exists. I wonder if they'll let you self mentor and use the Chronomage which charged you 5 gold to go down to lvl 10 in increments of 5 from your current level.

Paleman
06-20-2015, 05:10 PM
warden or fury will probably be the best class pick. I would think brigs or swash would be the best scout though but they will probably be best during the next expansion since they get some OP abilities 50-60.

Im rolling fury and pally. Paladins can now cast while moving so that should change things.


I seriously hopw they dont let BL and channeler on pvp server. They both have insane spells in comparison to every other class. Channeler alone can out dps all classic classes except Beastlord and still heal. That would definitely fuck up pvp.

SamwiseRed
06-20-2015, 05:49 PM
coercer vs illusionist

they both look like chanters

Uuruk
06-20-2015, 06:18 PM
Can someone fill me on on who hammertime is? These autistic fucks think I'm whoever that is.

iiNGloriouS
06-20-2015, 06:49 PM
warden or fury will probably be the best class pick. I would think brigs or swash would be the best scout though but they will probably be best during the next expansion since they get some OP abilities 50-60.

Im rolling fury and pally. Paladins can now cast while moving so that should change things.


I seriously hopw they dont let BL and channeler on pvp server. They both have insane spells in comparison to every other class. Channeler alone can out dps all classic classes except Beastlord and still heal. That would definitely fuck up pvp.

Swashbucklers will be INSANE in DoF especially in group pvp if the Swash can get Masters of Hurricane and all of their aoes early.

I predict top trio (will have Coercer/illy, Swash and Warden.

Taboo
06-20-2015, 08:18 PM
I will be playing evil. I played a monk named quantum leap in nagafen launch. Good times.

heartbrand
06-20-2015, 08:28 PM
I'm debating going coercer again or switching it up and going tank

Taboo
06-20-2015, 08:29 PM
We had this one coercer lock down 3 people and kill them all. Never saw anyone do that before. Was impressive.

SamwiseRed
06-20-2015, 09:11 PM
I will be playing evil. I played a monk named quantum leap in nagafen launch. Good times.

noo taboo, you are goo shaman. need you on the good side with the rest of us pal.

Magikarp
06-20-2015, 09:30 PM
Didn't know they removed some of the faction restrictions, interesting. The mentoring system still in place? That was the one of the best ways I've seen in an MMO to play with pals who decide to show up to the party late.

I'm not sure but I believe that was a classic feature no? Its probably still there. Tbh haven't seen more than a handful of anonymous pals around me in the tutorial zones.

Just rolling chars to lv 10 or so as they appear to get a few important/fun class-defining abilities by that point. Was enjoying conj until I found out monks/bruisers and warden/fury get abilities that totally evaporate the pets and nearly everyone can easily CC them. Beastlords are in the same boat... can apparently dish out enormous dps if the conditions are right but without their pets they're gimpy monks.

Now looking at ranger/wizzie... wanna blow up ppl longtime

Magikarp
06-20-2015, 09:37 PM
But from my recent experience, well-played wardens will rock in this era of knowledge. They can nearly-instantly cure any non-stun negative effect, get a variety of heals/hots, nuke at about 75% capacity of a wizzie, and run fast. Gonna be a top priority pvp target for sure.

Lime
06-20-2015, 09:53 PM
Someone post some good eq2 pvp videos.

Taboo
06-20-2015, 10:32 PM
Let me look up some old guild Havoc videos. I will post soon

Kergan
06-20-2015, 10:37 PM
I'm not sure but I believe that was a classic feature no? Its probably still there. Tbh haven't seen more than a handful of anonymous pals around me in the tutorial zones.

Just rolling chars to lv 10 or so as they appear to get a few important/fun class-defining abilities by that point. Was enjoying conj until I found out monks/bruisers and warden/fury get abilities that totally evaporate the pets and nearly everyone can easily CC them. Beastlords are in the same boat... can apparently dish out enormous dps if the conditions are right but without their pets they're gimpy monks.

Now looking at ranger/wizzie... wanna blow up ppl longtime

I want to say it was before the first xpac but I don't think the game launched with it. Could be wrong though.

Farzo
06-20-2015, 10:37 PM
Sounds good, we should all make a guild there and get passed the p99 hatered.

I played at launch (non-pvp) and quite enjoyed the game even though it had things like shared xp pen on death etc.

Will be good to 2box again, luv boxing eq.

Kergan
06-20-2015, 10:40 PM
EQ1 a lot easier to 2 box than EQ2.

SamwiseRed
06-20-2015, 10:42 PM
ya looks like you cant just stand there and auto attack in eq2, it will be a nice change of pace.

Farzo
06-20-2015, 10:55 PM
EQ1 a lot easier to 2 box than EQ2.

Aye, but miss logging in and doing a 45min self exploring of a zone sorta thing. Boxing on a PvP server is a no no anyhow.


I boxed a brusier and defiler; was great esp when healer types could give a rez stone to someone so when I was in dungeons I could FD on the bruiser and let the defiler die on on bad pulls/agro then rez stone him up after.

Taboo
06-20-2015, 11:39 PM
https://youtu.be/Yq-VY2f79Cw

MO cockblock by my guild

Taboo
06-20-2015, 11:40 PM
https://youtu.be/HYlCYz25QYs

Full pvp by Havoc

Taboo
06-20-2015, 11:42 PM
https://youtu.be/spwfLHANi1U

we had some really dedicated people in Havoc, :)

I hope some of them come back!

Taboo
06-20-2015, 11:46 PM
Only posting raid pvp as this was all I cared about. :(

iiNGloriouS
06-20-2015, 11:56 PM
Name a class you want some pvp videos of. Ill make a mega post when I get off work in a couple hours.

Just so people can get a perspective of each class.

SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 12:02 AM
cant wait

lethdar
06-21-2015, 12:04 AM
inquisitor

Taboo
06-21-2015, 12:06 AM
What I do remember was on the pvp server the good side suffered because no brigand. Dispatch is big, fyi. Cant remember on launch but again no pvp servers on launch

Taboo
06-21-2015, 12:11 AM
Stormin was the coercer/illusionist that wrecked 3 people at a time. he made the last video

Tapatio
06-21-2015, 12:12 AM
cant wait

Taboo
06-21-2015, 12:13 AM
Oh and taunt means something :)

Taboo
06-21-2015, 12:16 AM
All these videos are less than 3 months into pvp launch

Kergan
06-21-2015, 12:18 AM
Oh and taunt means something :)

Yeah, taunt works in PVP...forces your target for the taunt duration - super cool PVP mechanic and a way to defend casters/healers besides just spam healing.

Taboo
06-21-2015, 12:23 AM
please let troub charm work on pvp :) lol I got a little trick for that

Taboo
06-21-2015, 12:25 AM
We charmed a main tank and scout evacced him to the zone in. I'm giving you that for free!

Mr Popo
06-21-2015, 03:13 AM
These are special servers for All Access members that are locked to a period in EverQuest II’s history.

Ehh, $15/month.. I'll pass.

Kergan
06-21-2015, 03:25 AM
Ehh, $15/month.. I'll pass.

I expect a lot of people to pass based on the fact it's behind the pay wall. All I can say is that I view it as a very big positive that people can't create multiple free accounts to do all sorts of shenanigans.

Also, you can trade in game currency for game time. For example, on the EQ progression servers currently you can get a krono (1 month subscription essentially) for about 1200 plat. Leveling up legit with my bro and cousin I just bought a FBSS for 2.5k among other things, I could have easily diverted that into krono and paid for my sub and both of theirs.

If you play a lot, you'll play for free.

Clark
06-21-2015, 03:36 AM
We had this one coercer lock down 3 people and kill them all. Never saw anyone do that before. Was impressive.

nice

Mr Popo
06-21-2015, 03:38 AM
As much nostalgia as goes around this place about different servers, one has to ask why don't they just play on whatever progression server exists for eq1. While I realize its not a wholly equal comparison, the reason is still very simple imo, that sony is still trying to cashcow eq1.

So why in the hell would I hook my utters up for a eq2 prog server? Equally preposterous, YOU CAN PLAY EQ2 FOR FREE RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE, and infact do the exact conversion you suggest within 'live' EQ2 after grinding long enough.

So I ask a very simple question, if this prog server is an interesting concept more than a PR stunt, why aren't you P2W EQ2 right this very minute instead of waiting until July 7th or w/e?

Mr Popo
06-21-2015, 04:05 AM
And I get what you are saying about farming, so bots won't ruin the economy or whatever, but still I think probably if most of the hype ITT thought about it they would realize they should just roll eq2 f2p for the lolz.

Mr Popo
06-21-2015, 04:06 AM
FWIW I prefer eq1 for nostalgia and bcause its so impossibly hardmode. I don't really get either from eq2 even though objectively it is a much better game.

Kergan
06-21-2015, 04:22 AM
EQ2 was just a different game. It really is an in between point between EQ1 and WoW. You can tell that conceptually the EQ1 dev team had influence, but it is also clear a different team more concerned with how WoW as grabbing up subscribers at a previously unseen pace influenced the game. A lot of the EQ2 style changes actually came to EQ to make the game more casual friendly.

A game like EQ1 will never be seen again. The frustrations (corpse recovery, difficulty, etc) was a unique event born partially of the DND culture and mostly because of the lack of competition. People pushed through the bullshit of EQ1 to understand how it made the game better, people nowadays would die once and quit forever.

EQ2 was sort of a happy medium. If you're a diehard EQ1 fan who can't appreciate the game universe you may not be happy with EQ2. But in the end, I thoroughly enjoyed it and only quit because I had nobody left around me. EQ2 features a more rotationally styled combat system sort of like WoW set in the world of Norrath. I still think they have one of the best class/subclass systems outside of Rift and the mentoring system (where you can "delevel" to actually group up and be challenged by mid level content, simultaneously helping yourself and you low level pals) was top notch. EQ2 got a lot right, but it came at a bad time and changed too quickly for even the diehards. A progression server is exactly what this game needs, and I would encourage people to at least check out the beta.

Magikarp
06-21-2015, 06:09 AM
As much nostalgia as goes around this place about different servers, one has to ask why don't they just play on whatever progression server exists for eq1. While I realize its not a wholly equal comparison, the reason is still very simple imo, that sony is still trying to cashcow eq1.

So why in the hell would I hook my utters up for a eq2 prog server? Equally preposterous, YOU CAN PLAY EQ2 FOR FREE RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE, and infact do the exact conversion you suggest within 'live' EQ2 after grinding long enough.

So I ask a very simple question, if this prog server is an interesting concept more than a PR stunt, why aren't you P2W EQ2 right this very minute instead of waiting until July 7th or w/e?

i beat eq the other day, didnt u hear? still loggin in for batphones tho.

also just resubbed eq2 tonight to get immersed b4 prog starts

after a night of grinding eq2 all i can say is WOW so many buttons. im at 4 hotbars at lv 25 and feel like i need more. really glad its limited to lv 50 on prog for a while just so i can figure out what my class is capable of. i do expect it to take that long.

tbh i could probably drop this heat vision shit off of there but you never know when im gonna need it.....

battlegrounds tomorrow dawgs. im gonna get rekt. i dont even know how to use the AA window yet. luckily no bg's or aa in initial prog, phew.


Didn't know they removed some of the faction restrictions, interesting. The mentoring system still in place? That was the one of the best ways I've seen in an MMO to play with pals who decide to show up to the party late.

and yes the mentoring system is still present. grouped with a scaled-down lv 95 earlier today. very odd/fun experience all things considered.

Magikarp
06-21-2015, 06:15 AM
i was also scaled up in the process, just to clarify that mechanic

Magikarp
06-21-2015, 06:20 AM
t-t-triple post

just fyi i dont recommend subbing until you run into a specific reason. i did so under the incorrect assumption that i would be able to play a beastlord, which was not the case

more than enough to do as a free account

SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 08:46 AM
im not sure some of us are going to be ready to push more than 1 button.

iiNGloriouS
06-21-2015, 09:23 AM
Sorry guys just got home;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0YGJKlQg8U level 20 Assassin PVP

Same guy but on his 52 decked SwashBuckler; I was the 60 Iksar Bruiser he dunked on a horse.; Kinda bad quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1lf6dWpgaI

HippoNipple
06-21-2015, 10:48 AM
Sorry guys just got home;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0YGJKlQg8U level 20 Assassin PVP

Same guy but on his 52 decked SwashBuckler; I was the 60 Iksar Bruiser he dunked on a horse.; Kinda bad quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1lf6dWpgaI

Wow this game looks hard. That swashbuckler had like 40 abilities and he was using them all.

B4EQWASCOOL
06-21-2015, 11:02 AM
If I wanna pay for better PvP, I'll I'll probably just play WoW again. Battleground PvP was pretty good.

HippoNipple
06-21-2015, 12:05 PM
If I wanna pay for better PvP, I'll I'll probably just play WoW again. Battleground PvP was pretty good.

Most people in the mmo world would agree. Most people in the p99 community probably wont.

Mr Popo
06-21-2015, 12:45 PM
If so, they ruined normal wow several years ago and don't play that. Play on Fennix instead obv for all the same reasons to play eq1 here.

fred schnarf
06-21-2015, 01:21 PM
eq2 is great in its own way

if its 15 a month id pass but if they use the same model as other eq2 servers id play

but i wont play 1 char i need to play 6

Mr Popo
06-21-2015, 01:31 PM
Its the exact same All Access sub.

SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 01:36 PM
good no unemployed necks

heartbrand
06-21-2015, 01:49 PM
Are there really people who can't afford or even think about $15?

Mr Popo
06-21-2015, 01:54 PM
our of principle, if I was a millionaire, I would not fathom pay $15/month for skyrim mmo and that games been our for 6 months

Tapatio
06-21-2015, 01:54 PM
Very wowish. Was surprised by the videos.

SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 02:40 PM
Are there really people who can't afford or even think about $15?

sadly true but if it keeps the drugged out losers from playing the game im all for it.

bigbeng
06-21-2015, 02:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZKTCuktyc

SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 03:00 PM
is there any classes that are completely useless in raids? like enchanters in some encounters or druids.

DeadlyApostle
06-21-2015, 03:05 PM
You need 1 of each class except for tanks for the stacking raid buffs.

Mr Popo
06-21-2015, 03:26 PM
Wow that looked like some dope action, play gw2 for free or SIGN RIGHT UP TAKE MY FIFRTEEN DORRA

fred schnarf
06-21-2015, 03:33 PM
is there any classes that are completely useless in raids? like enchanters in some encounters or druids.

every class is extremely viable in EQ2

coercers and enchanters in general do very high reactive damage, inquisitors as an example are evil priests who have the best debuffs in the game

ill be rolling team EVIL because freeport is home and the overlord is all

TacoSmasher
06-21-2015, 03:49 PM
glad to see the scum that made up good guys leadership have been so demoralized they had to pick a new game.

a+ thread

SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 03:55 PM
dont think any gg leadership had posted or made public they are going to try this server. this will be the first legit pvp progression server to come out that i can think of that's not an emu which means a lot of people. going to be fun with everyone starting out on the same playing field.

btw my empire friends are going to be playing too :)

Uuruk
06-21-2015, 04:04 PM
Hearing a lot of good things about this server. Doing beta.

Kek

SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 04:05 PM
lol nice find. didnt realize it myself as noone talks about it in-game. fq'd

Magikarp
06-21-2015, 06:14 PM
game is wow'ish in terms of quest hubs and bg's in its current state.

if its true prog, the quests won't be enough to sustain you and it will be better to form a group and camp a dungeon. bg's have already been confirmed as 'never' being implemented

no bg + progression-server population on a pvp server? war is coming

thought i'd add this leaderboard link in here for discussion: http://u.eq2wire.com/lb/listing/

very little bearing on what will happen in classic other than the fact that i'm 90% sure they will keep ability progression in its current, unclassic state. we won't be lv 95/100, but class balance will remain about what it is currently

initial reading suggests a very strong diversity among successful pvp classes, with a few especially shining classes, and some notable support roles not represented by high kills or kdr ranking

Magikarp
06-21-2015, 06:20 PM
switch option to "nagafen" for open world-skewed statistics. unfortunately nagafen open world pvp is pretty dead these days from what i understand so its mainly bg stats that are displayed

Kergan
06-21-2015, 07:40 PM
The server needs to behind the pay wall due to the voting mechanic to unlock xpacs or release content if nothing else.

iiNGloriouS
06-21-2015, 07:53 PM
Wow this game looks hard. That swashbuckler had like 40 abilities and he was using them all.

There's a lot of hotkeying but he has a lot of buttons he isn't using that aren't hotkeyyed to spam his group when there's pvp or use his mount etc. Lots of extra clickies available to him. But still quite a few buttons.

Like I said to hippo if you guys have any questions pm me and ill help you out. Ill get to them when I get off work today

Quiet
06-21-2015, 08:20 PM
Ready for this? Aw yiss.

HippoNipple
06-21-2015, 08:44 PM
Just downloaded beta update, going swashbuckler. I played at eq2 release but only played a few weeks before switching to wow. I don't even remember eq2 having pvp, looking forward to it.

SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 08:46 PM
so monks are more tank in eq2 vs dps of eq1? is there any op ass items like tstaff in classic eq2? so many classes with so many abilities. ive been on eq1 so long not even sure im ready for this.

SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 08:54 PM
holy shit made a 90 monk. the attack animations on frogloks are pretty sick. may roll monk instead of bard.

Ragnaros
06-21-2015, 08:54 PM
made 90 ranger
im impressed