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SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 09:00 PM
check out a froglok roundhouse kick ol

Rushmore
06-21-2015, 10:12 PM
with velious around the corner none of u can seriously say you will play eq 2 emu when velious is out can u? :mad:

laughing at you if so...

SamwiseRed
06-21-2015, 10:15 PM
i actually think velious is shitty, always have. i wish this server was just classic.

Quiet
06-21-2015, 10:21 PM
Just downloaded beta update, going swashbuckler. I played at eq2 release but only played a few weeks before switching to wow. I don't even remember eq2 having pvp, looking forward to it.

Did not have pvp @ Launch. Biggest mistake ever.

HippoNipple
06-21-2015, 10:33 PM
i actually think velious is shitty, always have. i wish this server was just classic.

Magikarp
06-21-2015, 10:56 PM
with velious around the corner none of u can seriously say you will play eq 2 emu when velious is out can u? :mad:

laughing at you if so...

i've always been playing other games alongside p99. i also have a job, volunteer at the local shelter, and maintain healthy relationships. i dont sleep much tho

feels good to be a dimensionless shiva-like superbeing

http://server.myspace-shack.com/d21/aaagoddesskali.jpg

wish i had big blue tits tho

see u in thurgadin and neo-blackburrow simultaneously brews

iiNGloriouS
06-21-2015, 11:07 PM
so monks are more tank in eq2 vs dps of eq1? is there any op ass items like tstaff in classic eq2? so many classes with so many abilities. ive been on eq1 so long not even sure im ready for this.

Every scout class gets a stun, usually 2-3.

Monks (defensive) and bruisers (offensive) are like offtanks for fights that require you to have an avoidance tank because the mob either ignores stats etc or just hits too hard. Later on they can do damn good damage and I know monks become essentially MTs for awhile in the later expansions.

No op stun items just 4-5 stuns and knock backs.

Tomm Selleck
06-21-2015, 11:31 PM
good god assassin.... forgot about this bad bitch

Magikarp
06-22-2015, 02:16 AM
and then i found out i could be a black halfling monk with an afro

main discovered

http://i.imgur.com/3tUhKcb.jpg

Magikarp
06-22-2015, 02:23 AM
btw im playing with the new eq2 face-reading software on at all times

thats actually what i look like when im playing eq2

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 02:23 AM
lol im leveling a halfling monk now, name is monkwise :)

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 02:24 AM
btw im playing with the new eq2 face-reading software on at all times

thats actually what i look like when im playing eq2

wtf how do i enable that shit

Magikarp
06-22-2015, 02:25 AM
what server brew? and what starting zone? mentor me dawg

iiNGloriouS
06-22-2015, 02:31 AM
Btw guys if you want to wet your feet with eq2 pvp apparently lvl 20 pvp is still big on Nagafen. Ill be rolling a fuck around took tonight

Magikarp
06-22-2015, 02:31 AM
funny thing is 'nurga' was only available on the highest pop server. i prb wont be naming my main that all things considered

but that model tho

droppin 'pons' on the nagafen server, halfling ranger this time around hit me up

iiNGloriouS
06-22-2015, 02:32 AM
wtf how do i enable that shit

SoEmote under voice

Magikarp
06-22-2015, 02:33 AM
/showhelm off all times let that fro flow

Tapatio
06-22-2015, 10:13 AM
and then i found out i could be a black halfling monk with an afro

main discovered

http://i.imgur.com/3tUhKcb.jpg

Lol

HalflingWarrior
06-22-2015, 10:31 AM
Both. EQ2 sucked in general. How much open world pvp do you think you'll see with instances and multiple versions of the same zone available?

I'm put myself out there and say I bet you'd see a lot more PvP than Red99

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 10:35 AM
most people dont play red99 for pvp.

HalflingWarrior
06-22-2015, 10:45 AM
Nobody gives a shit about RMT anymore except emu servers. Almost every single game has a legit way to convert real life currency into game currency via 30 day game time consumable items, etc.

Guess what, it didn't ruin any of the games that have it (all Daybreak games, EVE, WoW, etc).

The false outrage over RMT is retarded.

But see if RMT was allowed on P99 then those individuals with less playtime (assumably due to having actual RL obligations) would be able to compete at the top end.

The top end guilds might not be able to monopolize all content, then who would they get to feel "superior" over?

Funnily enough RMT IS rampant on P99 yet the GMs only punish the buyers not the suppliers. Isn't it strange that the GMs can track down joeshmoe who bought 5kpp to get started on the server but they "can't" seem to track down the individuals who are supplying LITERALLY MILLIONS OF PP to the big sellers?

HERES A HINT GMs: The suppliers just MIGGGHHHTTTT be some of the individuals who've been monopolizing all Kunark content for 5 years now and selling the stuff for loot rights.

Eslade
06-22-2015, 10:47 AM
How do you know it's millions? Got something to confess?

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 10:50 AM
But see if RMT was allowed on P99 then those individuals with less playtime (assumably due to having actual RL obligations) would be able to compete at the top end.

The top end guilds might not be able to monopolize all content, then who would they get to feel "superior" over?

Funnily enough RMT IS rampant on P99 yet the GMs only punish the buyers not the suppliers. Isn't it strange that the GMs can track down joeshmoe who bought 5kpp to get started on the server but they "can't" seem to track down the individuals who are supplying LITERALLY MILLIONS OF PP to the big sellers?

HERES A HINT GMs: The suppliers just MIGGGHHHTTTT be some of the individuals who've been monopolizing all Kunark content for 5 years now and selling the stuff for loot rights.

Duh

Sony owned the rights to the fictional licensing of the Everquest lore. Which does not expire unlike the code rights. Now Daybreak owns the rights. It is in the legal agreement that you cannot profit off this Emulation.

RMT breaks that agreement, so it cannot be condoned by the Staff no matter if it's a good thing or not. And even if they could WTF would they want to do that? You mean they would want to code and manage a server while other people make money off it lol your crazy.

heartbrand
06-22-2015, 10:54 AM
Can you please quote me some applicable federal law for your claim?

Eslade
06-22-2015, 10:56 AM
Duh

Sony owned the rights to the fictional licensing of the Everquest lore. Which does not expire unlike the code rights. Now Daybreak owns the rights. It is in the legal agreement that you cannot profit off this Emulation.

RMT breaks that agreement, so it cannot be condoned by the Staff no matter if it's a good thing or not. And even if they could WTF would they want to do that? You mean they would want to code and manage a server while other people make money off it lol your crazy.

RMT breaks that agreement, so it cannot be condoned by the Staff no matter if it's a good thing or not. And even if they could WTF would they want to do that? You mean they would want to code and manage a server while other people make money off it lol your crazy.

You mean they would want to code and manage a server while other people make money off it lol your crazy.

QUOTE=Syft-X;1948094] your crazy.[/QUOTE]

lol, English major.

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 10:56 AM
Can you please quote me some applicable federal law for your claim?

Go find it, you obviously have me confused with someone who gives a shit about your opinion.

Tapatio
06-22-2015, 10:56 AM
You're opinions are discarded

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 10:57 AM
QUOTE=Syft-X;1948094] your crazy.

lol, English major.[/QUOTE]

If you're gonna grammar nazi me on typo's then learn how to use a quote ya fucking retard.

Eslade
06-22-2015, 10:57 AM
Mad bad and dyslexic?

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 11:00 AM
Mad bad and dyslexic?

Yea but I'm the not the one hooked up to a dialysis machine angrily typing shit to people that are better than me in the video game I play.

Eslade
06-22-2015, 11:01 AM
That makes two of us.

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 11:10 AM
That makes two of us.

1369 Eslade 2 1 2.00 2 5.50

Nothing you say on forums will ever make you relevant ingame...and I can I see your not very happy about that.

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 11:11 AM
1369 Eslade 2 1 2.00 2 5.50

Nothing you say on forums will ever make you relevant ingame...and I can I see your not very happy about that.

Can you find the typo in there...at least there's one thing you're good at

HippoNipple
06-22-2015, 11:15 AM
So on a PvE server it doesn't really matter what race/class you are, you can play with everyone. On EQ2 PvP server are the good and evil teams limited to only good/neutral and evil/neutral classes?

Will the good team most likely have more casters so they can utilize troubador buffs while evil use melee/dirge buffs?

Kergan
06-22-2015, 11:15 AM
Well, this thread had a good run. RIP in peace

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 11:16 AM
Well, this thread had a good run. RIP in peace

It was an EQ2 thread, you're welcome.

Kergan
06-22-2015, 11:16 AM
So on a PvE server it doesn't really matter what race/class you are, you can play with everyone. On EQ2 PvP server are the good and evil teams limited to only good/neutral and evil/neutral classes?

Will the good team most likely have more casters so they can utilize troubador buffs while evil use melee/dirge buffs?

Apparently most of the restrictions were removed (i.e. freeport side can have troubadors).

HippoNipple
06-22-2015, 11:17 AM
It was an EQ2 thread, you're welcome.

Don't be so bitter, just ask your mom for an allowance raise so you can play. Just gotta get a $3.75/week bump.

HippoNipple
06-22-2015, 11:20 AM
Apparently most of the restrictions were removed (i.e. freeport side can have troubadors).

Well I was trying to make a Dirge in a good city and it wouldn't let me. They took out a lot of restrictions but for necro/dirge and maybe one other (sk?) it still seems like they restrict it.

On a PvE server it isn't a big deal but I don't see how it would work on a PvP server since you would be able to hit allies.

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 11:21 AM
syft get the fuck out of my thread.

Kergan
06-22-2015, 11:22 AM
Well I was trying to make a Dirge in a good city and it wouldn't let me. They took out a lot of restrictions but for necro/dirge and maybe one other (sk?) it still seems like they restrict it.

On a PvE server it isn't a big deal but I don't see how it would work on a PvP server since you would be able to hit allies.

I know a couple of the restrictions will stay in - necro/sk for sure. I guess it's possible the bard ones are part of that which would be sorta weird.

On a PVP server people will likely end up on exile faction to take advantage of all classes and be able to contest world bosses against both factions.

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 11:29 AM
I spoke with Kander the developer handling pvp...

"Will all classes be open to both teams? Can I betray across to Qeynos and remain a Shadowknight? This was a huge issue back in the day because it limited the raid content people could do without the proper classes. Please take this into consideration instead of just enabling Exiles. It will really leave Qeynos and Freeporters in the dust again."

Willan, Thursday at 1:50 AM


Kander
Developer

"Yes. That is the plan."

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 11:30 AM
Don't be so bitter, just ask your mom for an allowance raise so you can play. Just gotta get a $3.75/week bump.

I barely have time to play because I have a job and a life. Unlike yourself who is just scared to die in pvp.

Genedin
06-22-2015, 11:31 AM
Is this game actually fun? I remember playing upon release and really disliking it.

Eslade
06-22-2015, 11:32 AM
Awwww yissss. Do they still make you progress from fighter to Knight then to SK/Pal?

Tapatio
06-22-2015, 11:32 AM
I barely have time to play because I have a job and a life. Unlike yourself who is just scared to die in pvp.

http://reactiongif.org/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/08/GIF-are-you-sure-bitch-please-bug-eyes-disbelief-Kenan-Thompson-o-rly-oh-really-ok-then-snl-surprised-yeah-right-GIF.gif

Kergan
06-22-2015, 11:33 AM
Awwww yissss. Do they still make you progress from fighter to Knight then to SK/Pal?

Nope, you pick your final class right from the start now.

HippoNipple
06-22-2015, 11:37 AM
I barely have time to play because I have a job and a life. Unlike yourself who is just scared to die in pvp.

I thought you had like 4 raiding chars and had alts in all raiding guilds to max dragon kill points or are you still pretending that was for spy purposes? Either way, I don't know many professionals that have time to spy on guilds in 16 year old elf sims.

HippoNipple
06-22-2015, 11:39 AM
I spoke with Kander the developer handling pvp...

"Will all classes be open to both teams? Can I betray across to Qeynos and remain a Shadowknight? This was a huge issue back in the day because it limited the raid content people could do without the proper classes. Please take this into consideration instead of just enabling Exiles. It will really leave Qeynos and Freeporters in the dust again."

Willan, Thursday at 1:50 AM


Kander
Developer

"Yes. That is the plan."

Excellent. I think I could best serve the duke and Sams ranger as a dirge since they are both melee.

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 11:47 AM
I thought you had like 4 raiding chars and had alts in all raiding guilds to max dragon kill points or are you still pretending that was for spy purposes? Either way, I don't know many professionals that have time to spy on guilds in 16 year old elf sims.

It's good to have 17 RL friends who quit playing and have access to their accounts but you wouldn't know because first you'd have to get RL friends.

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 11:49 AM
I have a list of classes we need up @ http://valor.tgaming.org

HippoNipple
06-22-2015, 11:50 AM
It's good to have 17 RL friends who quit playing and have access to their accounts but you wouldn't know because first you'd have to get RL friends.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2011/09/lan-p.jpg

Probably a fun group of friends.

iiNGloriouS
06-22-2015, 11:54 AM
I talked to eximo a lot these past few days; ill be your swash

HippoNipple
06-22-2015, 12:03 PM
I have a list of classes we need up @ http://valor.tgaming.org

Not sure if you are trying to have 24 for end content but you ended up with 25 total that you want.

I thought every raid had a total of 4 dirge/troub, one for each group. You will only have 2 total with your current set up.

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 12:10 PM
Not so much, you put a dirge in the melee dps burn group and the troub in the caster dps burn group... Tank group doesn't need either one and its not important to give buffer classes a troub.

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 12:12 PM
I don't expect us to have the same 24 people every single raid since we will be fighting for shit as it spawns throughout the day and different encounters call for different set ups. You will not have the same 24 class load out for every single mob.

People that cannot join the raid because of the required class composition will still get DKP for the raid and can bid on the drops. You can just add them to the raid to loot after the mob is dead.

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 12:18 PM
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2011/09/lan-p.jpg

Probably a fun group of friends.

Notice I said they quit playing ages ago. Instead of not playing and lurking the forums daily because their lives are devoid of human interaction.

Eslade
06-22-2015, 12:28 PM
http://previews.123rf.com/images/arquiplay77/arquiplay770910/arquiplay77091000015/5702069-young-adult-playing-video-games-in-a-grungy-and-dark-room-only-lightened-by-the-TV-screen-Stock-Photo.jpg

fred schnarf
06-22-2015, 12:36 PM
i read the community forum post last night, its going to be a gold sub only server initially , 14.99 a month which isnt much,,

but most people wont play unless they have the free to play model with item unlocks, which still make money for the server in the longrun

people are what matter, server has to be packed or its pointless.

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 12:38 PM
All of the progression servers in EQ1 have been so packed their are 5 hour ques for the first month... What makes you think EQ2 won't be similar? They also stated they have hardware to double up on the TLE servers if they need to.

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 12:40 PM
All of the progression servers in EQ1 have been so packed their are 5 hour ques for the first month... What makes you think EQ2 won't be similar? They also stated they have hardware to double up on the TLE servers if they need to.

Prolly because EQ2 was awful

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 12:52 PM
Prolly because EQ2 was awful

I don't want to hear shit from the guy that didn't know that earth pet's root didn't remove sow. Your opinion is invalid.

Colgate
06-22-2015, 12:54 PM
yeah i'd much rather hear it from the guy who got 4th out of 4 at a best of the best on his literal best in slot character versus two level 56 characters with shit gear

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 12:56 PM
I don't want to hear shit from the guy that didn't know that earth pet's root didn't remove sow. Your opinion is invalid.

EQ2 still sucks, there's a reason WoW killed that game.

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 12:56 PM
What part of I don't like you and quit trying to talk to me don't you understand Colgate?

heartbrand
06-22-2015, 12:57 PM
This nilly eq2 guild has no shot @ non instanced content vs the neckbeards of nagafen eq2 who will be coming out. If people think the type of low lives on this server are bad, wait till you see the type of people who played on Nagafen. Check out eq2flames and the progression server thread for an eye opener.

Colgate
06-22-2015, 12:59 PM
willan gonna lead this eq2 guild into the ground just like he led nihilum into the ground when nizzar was absent

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 01:01 PM
This nilly eq2 guild has no shot @ non instanced content vs the neckbeards of nagafen eq2 who will be coming out. If people think the type of low lives on this server are bad, wait till you see the type of people who played on Nagafen. Check out eq2flames and the progression server thread for an eye opener.

sounds competitive. i hope there is more than one guild.

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 01:03 PM
What part of I don't like you and quit trying to talk to me don't you understand Colgate?

Was just a shittier version of WoW. Game released without any PvP server's and wasn't designed with PvP in mind. I have no interest in playing Fable type games with online nerds who only want to slay dragons and plan digital weddings.

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 01:04 PM
EQ2 still sucks, there's a reason WoW killed that game.

wow was simpler and ran on most pcs. eq2 ran like dog shit on my pc so i played wow.

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 01:06 PM
This nilly eq2 guild has no shot @ non instanced content vs the neckbeards of nagafen eq2 who will be coming out. If people think the type of low lives on this server are bad, wait till you see the type of people who played on Nagafen. Check out eq2flames and the progression server thread for an eye opener.

We'll see, the fun in games is the competition. I don't think we are going to go in and smoke every1 @ the start for sure but I know it'll be fun regardless of the outcome.

fred schnarf
06-22-2015, 01:08 PM
there will be a bunch of guilds, history of eq2 pvp tells us the biggest zerg will be good team of shitty players that wins most pve targets, and the best pvpers are always evil

food for thought

heartbrand
06-22-2015, 01:09 PM
ya eq2 def favors zergs

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 01:10 PM
there will be a bunch of guilds, history of eq2 pvp tells us the biggest zerg will be good team of shitty players that wins most pve targets, and the best pvpers are always evil

food for thought

...No...

History of EQ2 tells us that if one side or the other is too zergy the top raiding guilds will betray to Exiled so they can wipe each other on raids and not worry about being unable to attack their own faction.

All of the top raiding guilds were Exiled for that reason + access to all classes.

heartbrand
06-22-2015, 01:11 PM
just a heads up, it's not clear if Exiles will exist on the progression server

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 01:11 PM
Also, mobs are locked to 1 raid on EQ2 soooo it actually favors 24ish man raid guilds that can keep their players in the top gear expansion to expansion while a zerg guild is in shit dungeon gear scraps.

fred schnarf
06-22-2015, 01:12 PM
ya eq2 def favors zergs

eq1 favors zergs even more, till pop at least, and even then you can farm minis with 120 and go in time full ele

eq is cake till gates mpg trials / anguish / demi

DeadlyApostle
06-22-2015, 01:12 PM
just a heads up, it's not clear if Exiles will exist on the progression server

Its being voted on and we'll find out the results on Tuesday I believe. I know that every raider from Nagafen voted Exiles in so we'll see but it looks good.

fred schnarf
06-22-2015, 01:12 PM
...No...

History of EQ2 tells us that if one side or the other is too zergy the top raiding guilds will betray to Exiled so they can wipe each other on raids and not worry about being unable to attack their own faction.

All of the top raiding guilds were Exiled for that reason + access to all classes.

very not true and u are dum

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 01:14 PM
Exiles sounds sweet. If I dont make the eq2 nilly cut, going exile.

Tapatio
06-22-2015, 01:31 PM
I don't want to hear shit from the guy that didn't know that earth pet's root didn't remove sow. Your opinion is invalid.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq5ucgSL7p1qjgnm7o1_250.gif

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 01:34 PM
http://angrycitizen.typepad.com/angry_citizen/images/laughing_bush.jpg

HalflingWarrior
06-22-2015, 01:38 PM
How do you know it's millions? Got something to confess?

If you goto one of the major plat selling sites and tell them you wanna buy 10 million PP they'll tell you they have the stock to deliver within 24 hours.

And no I don't have anything to confess as buying said amount of play would literally cost thousands of dollars lmao.

Tapatio
06-22-2015, 01:38 PM
http://rs1178.pbsrc.com/albums/x365/ayeenguyenn/tumblr_lkjbwxnyRj1qahab3.gif~c200

HalflingWarrior
06-22-2015, 01:40 PM
Duh

Sony owned the rights to the fictional licensing of the Everquest lore. Which does not expire unlike the code rights. Now Daybreak owns the rights. It is in the legal agreement that you cannot profit off this Emulation.

RMT breaks that agreement, so it cannot be condoned by the Staff no matter if it's a good thing or not. And even if they could WTF would they want to do that? You mean they would want to code and manage a server while other people make money off it lol your crazy.

You missed the whole point dude.

Again: GMs can track down JoeShmoe who spend $25 and bought 5kpp to get started on the server yet they "can't" track down the individuals who are supplying the platsellers with vast quantities of platinum pieces to sell.

There's only so many people on the server who could supply said "endless" quantities of platinum; unless the GMs themselves are creating platinum pieces and selling to retailers themselves (but let's not go THAT far into the conspiracy realm ok?)

Syft-X
06-22-2015, 02:15 PM
You missed the whole point dude.

Again: GMs can track down JoeShmoe who spend $25 and bought 5kpp to get started on the server yet they "can't" track down the individuals who are supplying the platsellers with vast quantities of platinum pieces to sell.

There's only so many people on the server who could supply said "endless" quantities of platinum; unless the GMs themselves are creating platinum pieces and selling to retailers themselves (but let's not go THAT far into the conspiracy realm ok?)

Plat's almost impossible to track down so many ways to conceal it and then how do you prove it wasn't a gift from a RL friend vs actual RMT.

HippoNipple
06-22-2015, 02:31 PM
Plat's almost impossible to track down so many ways to conceal it and then how do you prove it wasn't a gift from a RL friend vs actual RMT.

Relax, no one is trying to get you banned for your RMT, no one cares.

Sirban
06-22-2015, 07:32 PM
I had a lot of fun on EQ2 pvp

Uuruk
06-22-2015, 07:58 PM
Plat's almost impossible to track down so many ways to conceal it and then how do you prove it wasn't a gift from a RL friend vs actual RMT.

Well if your friend is gifting tons of people plat it's pretty obvious.

Genedin
06-22-2015, 08:04 PM
You drastically over estimate how hard platinum and items are to track down when you are running and in control of all of that data that enters and leaves the server you are running. It takes time, but it is in no way impossible or a barrier to stopping RMT from major buyers and suppliers, hence why every 6 months or so they ban 20-30 people.

Now, are there people that are overlooked. On purpose, otherwise? Possible.

Taboo
06-22-2015, 08:05 PM
Looks like a lot of the old nagafen guilds are making a return in some form or another.

Havoc, Kraken, Onyx and some others I am not too familiar with. Should be a fun time.

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 08:08 PM
Ya if lookin to be a shitstorm. Can't wait :d

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 08:09 PM
It's :D

Uuruk
06-22-2015, 08:09 PM
INC rmt cesspool

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 08:09 PM
Brace yourselves I got a reed belt for sell for the right price

lethdar
06-22-2015, 08:17 PM
Who cares about RMT in games, aside from trolling d/t the ez ban status here no one gives a fuck online.

lethdar
06-22-2015, 08:18 PM
Farm in game currency for 8 hrs vs picking up OT and converting it over while keeping the game enjoyable. EZ choice m8s.

iiNGloriouS
06-22-2015, 09:58 PM
Can't wait to flash of steel/hurricane and wipe full groups of nerds with my pals Hippo and Sam

Pras

Tapatio
06-22-2015, 10:11 PM
whats the name of the progression beta server?

SamwiseRed
06-22-2015, 10:35 PM
whats the name of the progression beta server?

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-57918-Denzel-Washington-my-man-gif-I-1KVs.gif

SamwiseRed
06-23-2015, 12:22 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jzIZn0R.png

Kergan
06-23-2015, 01:29 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jzIZn0R.png

Hahaha man, I chortled heartily.

iiNGloriouS
06-23-2015, 01:39 AM
gr8 animation. next level game.

HippoNipple
06-23-2015, 09:43 AM
Sam, what server are you playing on while you wait for progression server?

Paleman
06-23-2015, 10:44 AM
i think i saw a samwise on q side on nagafen.

Tapatio
06-23-2015, 10:46 AM
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-57918-Denzel-Washington-my-man-gif-I-1KVs.gif

Lvl 6 on nagafen bow kiting

Paleman
06-23-2015, 10:49 AM
Man the gear currently for launch is borked. I hope they fix all the gear from 40-50, to make the stats more in line with everything else from 1-40. Item stats basically double in the last 10 levels. kinda messed.


Also there is no point on trying to test anything in pvp on current pvp servers, because item stats and abilities are beyond fucked for the first tiers. Hopefully this shit will be squared away on beta otherwise they might as well name the server "Scoutsland"

HippoNipple
06-23-2015, 11:33 AM
Also there is no point on trying to test anything in pvp on current pvp servers, because item stats and abilities are beyond fucked for the first tiers. Hopefully this shit will be squared away on beta otherwise they might as well name the server "Scoutsland"

I'm just going to play around on a few classes to see what I like to play. I won't worry as much about picking the most OP.

There are a lot of classes that are appealing to me.

Brigand/Swash
Coercer/Illy
Warden
Troub/Dirge

Paleman
06-23-2015, 11:44 AM
I'm just going to play around on a few classes to see what I like to play. I won't worry as much about picking the most OP.

There are a lot of classes that are appealing to me.

Brigand/Swash
Coercer/Illy
Warden
Troub/Dirge

I am the same way. I just know that the majority of people who play or have played on naggy or vox will pick the OP classes. So expect a shitload of brigands, SKs, Rangers and Wardens.

I want to roll paladin, but I also am considering rolling a tracking class.

HalflingWarrior
06-23-2015, 11:46 AM
You drastically over estimate how hard platinum and items are to track down when you are running and in control of all of that data that enters and leaves the server you are running. It takes time, but it is in no way impossible or a barrier to stopping RMT from major buyers and suppliers, hence why every 6 months or so they ban 20-30 people.

Now, are there people that are overlooked. On purpose, otherwise? Possible.

Dude the last two RMT banwaves resulted in over 400 accounts being banned each time. Now "20 or 30." HUGE difference there when looking at this issue objectively.

vouss
06-23-2015, 11:51 AM
where are my red99 pals at on the quest2? you guys all roll qeynos?

HippoNipple
06-23-2015, 11:56 AM
Beta opens 1st or 2nd week in July. I think most people are going good.

HippoNipple
06-23-2015, 11:58 AM
I am the same way. I just know that the majority of people who play or have played on naggy or vox will pick the OP classes. So expect a shitload of brigands, SKs, Rangers and Wardens.

I want to roll paladin, but I also am considering rolling a tracking class.

Well something like a Dirge would go well with all those classes you mention and still offer a different play style. Same with an enchanter. I guess if you are wanting to be great in 1v1 it could be frustrating.

If the game is so unbalanced where a team of 3 sks could take out a healer/tank/dps then I guess that would be a problem.

Kergan
06-23-2015, 12:22 PM
I'm going on the opposite side as the r99 people.

Sorry, you're all cancerous piles of dogshit and I need to wash the stink of this place off and become overly immersed in the FQing of a different community at some point.

Paleman
06-23-2015, 12:26 PM
enchanter is possibly the best pvp class in the right hands. Illusionists can take out multiple groups. Its pretty insane.

fred schnarf
06-23-2015, 12:54 PM
Man the gear currently for launch is borked. I hope they fix all the gear from 40-50, to make the stats more in line with everything else from 1-40. Item stats basically double in the last 10 levels. kinda messed.


Also there is no point on trying to test anything in pvp on current pvp servers, because item stats and abilities are beyond fucked for the first tiers. Hopefully this shit will be squared away on beta otherwise they might as well name the server "Scoutsland"

nothing will be changed, no items classes or zones it will just limit content by expansion, duno why people have all these expectations, you really think daybreak can buy eq2 fix all this shit the way you want it then release a server within 2 months?

stupid kids lol

fred schnarf
06-23-2015, 12:55 PM
enchanter is possibly the best pvp class in the right hands. Illusionists can take out multiple groups. Its pretty insane.

or get killed in 1 ability by any stealth class or ranger, yes thats right rangers can stealth and use backstab type attacks from range : )

Tapatio
06-23-2015, 01:24 PM
or get killed in 1 ability by any stealth class or ranger, yes thats right rangers can stealth and use backstab type attacks from range : )

Ranger first char..Def fun with the flank and distance type abilities. I don't understand stealth though. My friend still saw me? Does it only invis you to the other team?

Paleman
06-23-2015, 01:33 PM
nothing will be changed, no items classes or zones it will just limit content by expansion, duno why people have all these expectations, you really think daybreak can buy eq2 fix all this shit the way you want it then release a server within 2 months?

stupid kids lol

Some thing will get changed. Not all. There will still be people complaining about what they see as broken.

I honestly think very little of DBG, but they seem to be servicing the fans as best they can given the resources for eq/eq2 (6 devs lol)

Tapatio
06-23-2015, 01:36 PM
Progression locked is the only way to revitalize these games that are on 30 expansions. New players just wander empty zones or never see the precursors otherwise and it's discouraging. So agree, they are doing a good job given circumstances.

Paleman
06-23-2015, 01:37 PM
or get killed in 1 ability by any stealth class or ranger, yes thats right rangers can stealth and use backstab type attacks from range : )

ranger isnt as OP as they used to be. If they adjust auto attack damage and CA damage enough though rangers might just suck.

Honestly I have never had a problem killing a ranger in eq2. Not that great of a pvp class atleast till they get extended range AAs and better bows.

fred schnarf
06-23-2015, 01:39 PM
Ranger first char..Def fun with the flank and distance type abilities. I don't understand stealth though. My friend still saw me? Does it only invis you to the other team?

you can be seen when someone is close to you but not if out of melee range

Kergan
06-23-2015, 01:59 PM
It's like predator style stealth if I remember right? You can see like a shimmer if they are up close? Or I am going full potato and thinking of a different game.

Tapatio
06-23-2015, 02:02 PM
Dim/see through ish. Not a blur like predator. At least at close range.

Kergan
06-23-2015, 02:06 PM
I for one will not be playing a scout. I will be playing something that kills scouts because that is probably what 80% of the server will be.

HippoNipple
06-23-2015, 02:29 PM
I for one will not be playing a scout. I will be playing something that kills scouts because that is probably what 80% of the server will be.

Well normally tanks can kill scouts. Problem is scouts get evac, invis, tracking etc.... so wouldn't it be easy for a scout to just avoid the tanks that could kill them?

DeadlyApostle
06-23-2015, 02:31 PM
In combat evacs are no longer a thing... invis doesn't work once you are in combat either. The real scout killers are enchanters/pet casters/monks and sometimes tanks if they outgear the scout.

fred schnarf
06-23-2015, 02:58 PM
reaver sks's

pet casters will be killed before they see the scout, many enchanters wont get a mez off either

berserkers maybe, scouts hurt alot

SamwiseRed
06-23-2015, 03:00 PM
shouldnt it be

scount beats mage

mage beat tank

tank beat scout

or is that too old school dnd thinking

fred schnarf
06-23-2015, 03:03 PM
cant just say tank , eq2 is different

paladins have small damage nukes with stun effect that actually land, SKs can steal lots of hp and mitigate damage well

mages still have very low hp and defense even in eq2, they can kill players if they get the jump

at higher levels necros get undead tide + regular swarm + Encounter aoe disease ( they can summon about 20 pets + regular pet ) Which can kill any class, if you have time to cast it all

if you open the fight tanking a scout as any caster you are dead, just like eq1

also note berserkers are pure tanks but top tier dps and guardians are lowest dps but have the best mitigation.

eq 2 has alot of differences, its a great game in its own way and if they have the free to play model im in , but it looks like its gold membership only, so we shall see.

SamwiseRed
06-23-2015, 03:05 PM
Not sure I liked high level bard play. I am still confused about when to use heroic opportunities (I am assuming only in pve.) Illusionist was kind of fun but I didn't like how my pet was just a copy of myself. So far the most enjoyable class thus far has been monk. I still have more classes to try though before I decide on a main. Templar is next.

HippoNipple
06-23-2015, 03:26 PM
Not sure I liked high level bard play. I am still confused about when to use heroic opportunities (I am assuming only in pve.) Illusionist was kind of fun but I didn't like how my pet was just a copy of myself. So far the most enjoyable class thus far has been monk. I still have more classes to try though before I decide on a main. Templar is next.

Didn't you start with Ranger? Sounds like they are pretty good.

Tavrin
06-23-2015, 03:29 PM
Not sure I liked high level bard play. I am still confused about when to use heroic opportunities (I am assuming only in pve.) Illusionist was kind of fun but I didn't like how my pet was just a copy of myself. So far the most enjoyable class thus far has been monk. I still have more classes to try though before I decide on a main. Templar is next.


You can use heroic opportunities in PvP from what I remember, although its been over a year since I played.

Dirge's and Troubadours are both good classes for open world PvP, but have a higher skill cap. Similar to EQ1 bards, great ones can be gods, shit ones are free kill.

People talk about scouts being OP, but I didn't see much of that when I played. There was the occasional level locked ganker running around with max AA's and OOR buffs that could get you in a single macro of skills, but in BG's most classes I tried did well enough outside of Defiler. But I sucked at its rotation.

Taunt works in PvP as well, so tank classes can save their healers/casters and teamwork is very important.

I'll give the server a try in beta and see how it works out. But if they allow mercs, its going to be a disaster.

DeadlyApostle
06-23-2015, 03:29 PM
Conjuror/Necro pets can taunt that is why they can beat scouts pre EoF/RoK. Also scouts were super top tier when auto attacks were 60% of your dps and now its down to 20%. They will have to cast a few skills to kill instead of just 1 stun and a flurry attack proc.

Enchanter classes should live long enough to get mez's off now but we'll have to see how it is on launch...

Scouts are good but when fighting competent people they aren't faceroll like you see in the old PvP videos.

fred schnarf
06-23-2015, 03:38 PM
mercs didnt come in the game till much later, wont be on the server for years. also please consider game will start with cap of 50 with no aa points and many class abilities removed.

also if you think conj / necro pets taunting is going to save you lol, people had tank / rogue pets out for pvp, even if taunt lands its like 2 seconds max and resistable.

old pvp videos dont matter they going with new code

HippoNipple
06-23-2015, 03:41 PM
old pvp videos dont matter they going with new code

I think that was his point. He was saying they took away some of the scouts dps so maybe enchanters aren't AS squishy.

DeadlyApostle
06-23-2015, 03:48 PM
Those no point in talking to schnarf about this. It is obvious in his replies he never played EQ2 for more than a month if that.

I look forward to seeing scouts taunted by pets then feared/rooted then stunned then re snared then taunted again and dieing. Scouts are squishy as hell and if they get CCed they are dead without in combat evac as an option.

heartbrand
06-23-2015, 03:56 PM
when I played last heroic opportunities were a forgotten feature, did something change?

Kergan
06-23-2015, 04:24 PM
If they have beastlords in either me or my bro will be one for sure, Votek will rise again first max lvl BL on SZ evil team!

Otherwise I'm thinking paladin, inquisitor or bruiser. Maybe a zerker.

Hopefully itemization wise it goes back to classic when crafted gear was the shit and everybody wanted it, at least early on.

Hopefully they didn't dick with the spell/ability system later on either, the whole idea of buying spell/ability upgrades was pretty awesome. I had a twinked out necro for lowbie pvp decked out with master I spells it was fun as hell.

Paleman
06-23-2015, 04:44 PM
Not sure I liked high level bard play. I am still confused about when to use heroic opportunities (I am assuming only in pve.) Illusionist was kind of fun but I didn't like how my pet was just a copy of myself. So far the most enjoyable class thus far has been monk. I still have more classes to try though before I decide on a main. Templar is next.

troub is a hard class to learn well in pvp. Dirge is even harder and at times can be considered the worst pvp class untill RoK comes out.

Paleman
06-23-2015, 04:47 PM
for any of you using PVE or battlegrounds as a barometer for how a class will do in PVP. prepare yourself for a big surprise. PVP wont be anything comparable to what you did in PVE or BG so theres no point in testing those for a comparison to what PVP will end up being.

Kergan
06-23-2015, 04:50 PM
From what I remember of open world PVP its a lot of someone getting the jump and the other person running away.

Magikarp
06-23-2015, 04:51 PM
i might be the only one doing this

but given the fact that skill progression appears to set to take the same path as current game, can u plz explain?

HippoNipple
06-23-2015, 04:52 PM
troub is a hard class to learn well in pvp. Dirge is even harder and at times can be considered the worst pvp class untill RoK comes out.

Dirge was actually my first choice until I read similar reviews. I figured being new I could help my group by at least having great buffs/support but people keep saying they suck.

It sounds like for the most part utility/cc takes a back seat to defensive/heal/dps.

Paleman
06-23-2015, 04:55 PM
Those no point in talking to schnarf about this. It is obvious in his replies he never played EQ2 for more than a month if that.

I look forward to seeing scouts taunted by pets then feared/rooted then stunned then re snared then taunted again and dieing. Scouts are squishy as hell and if they get CCed they are dead without in combat evac as an option.


summoner pets are alot shittier now. given a scout always has the advantage when it comes to engagement. A swash/brig is going to eat any caster alive with constant interrupts from daring advance, Taunts to force back from pet taunts. Basically if a summoner cant lock down and kill a scout on the first try, the scout can win.

Summoners are ideal in a group setting. Very few can hack it solo. I think I have personally every met 3 good summoners on naggy


also, I am pretty sure scouts will still get to evac. They just cant evac 4 times in a row like they used to be able to (evac, diety evac, item evac, prestige housing) So its back to evac 1 time per class every 30 minutes or something with them.

Paleman
06-23-2015, 05:06 PM
Dirge was actually my first choice until I read similar reviews. I figured being new I could help my group by at least having great buffs/support but people keep saying they suck.

It sounds like for the most part utility/cc takes a back seat to defensive/heal/dps.

dirge has really mediocre CC ( fear and snare), damage is slightly higher than Troub. The best thing about dirge is the melee group proc they get and combat rez.

Troubs get charm, mez, snare, great debuffs. Later expansions aside from warden they are the fastest moving class in the game, and the spell/CA range is the longest out of any class for an expansion i think. ( once you get class AAs)

Kergan
06-23-2015, 05:08 PM
Logged in my assassin, guess there was more PVP than I thought.

Deaths: 56
Wild kills: 344

Tavrin
06-23-2015, 05:37 PM
for any of you using PVE or battlegrounds as a barometer for how a class will do in PVP. prepare yourself for a big surprise. PVP wont be anything comparable to what you did in PVE or BG so theres no point in testing those for a comparison to what PVP will end up being.

What will be the major difference? I only played EQ2 later in its development, and rarely found open world PvP on Nagafen. But if I found an opponent that didn't have a flying mount or a merc, it was usually fun and not that much different from a solo engagement in a BG.

Paleman
06-23-2015, 05:48 PM
What will be the major difference? I only played EQ2 later in its development, and rarely found open world PvP on Nagafen. But if I found an opponent that didn't have a flying mount or a merc, it was usually fun and not that much different from a solo engagement in a BG.

Because of toughness and lethality, damage, heals, mitigation, and resists are different on BGs compared to live. Since there is such a stat bloat that developers are used to working with, there does seem to be more of a balance at end tier pvp. If you ever played a lower level BG match the difference becomes more apparent. Also PVE procs dont work in BGs, and they are supposed to work on PVP servers now like they used to at launch, which will add another dimension to PVP as well. I also think cc immunity is different on BGs than it is/was on pvp. IIRC I think cc immunity is shorter on pvp. How it ends up remains to be seen, but I am sure it will be very much unlike BG or current PVP. Another thing that might have to change is fighters having % based heals which could be a game changer in low tier pvp too.

Rhinehouse
06-23-2015, 08:51 PM
thinking of rolling an inquisitor or a defiler/mystic. whats more viable in pvp either group or solo?

Taboo
06-24-2015, 06:53 PM
Inquisitor always did well for pvp.

Paleman
06-24-2015, 07:57 PM
thinking of rolling an inquisitor or a defiler/mystic. whats more viable in pvp either group or solo?

Inquisitor is almost designed for pvp. They have CC, root, a mana regen buff, and reactive heals ( heals that trigger once target gets hit). The best healers for pvp will be druids though for sure.

I would stay away from defilers or mystics because they wont be any good untill AAs come. They have really long cast times.

Paleman
06-24-2015, 07:57 PM
Probably rolling fury, and paladin myself.

Farzo
06-24-2015, 08:03 PM
Yah I remember been raped by fury's.

Magikarp
06-24-2015, 10:45 PM
thinking of rolling an inquisitor or a defiler/mystic. whats more viable in pvp either group or solo?

my experience is second hand so take with grain of salt but:

in pve end game you need at least one sham-type for slows.. ofc you also need inquis for obvious heal reasons

slows in pvp are less effective due to skill abundance (unless combat art cast time gets incr. due to slow debuffs? maybe someone can comment)

my inquis buddy in classic complained he couldnt kill shit, but could stay alive forever.

sham have a few dots, defiler moreso

Sanchise
06-24-2015, 11:29 PM
Playoff Sanchez is coming...

Paleman
06-25-2015, 10:55 AM
my experience is second hand so take with grain of salt but:

in pve end game you need at least one sham-type for slows.. ofc you also need inquis for obvious heal reasons

slows in pvp are less effective due to skill abundance (unless combat art cast time gets incr. due to slow debuffs? maybe someone can comment)

my inquis buddy in classic complained he couldnt kill shit, but could stay alive forever.

sham have a few dots, defiler moreso


I doubt slows will be relevant till the end RoK. The only reason to be a shaman in pvp is if you have a crew to roll with, then shamans will be gods. Sham Dru in a pvp group is pretty much win all the time.

Quiet
06-25-2015, 11:33 AM
When is this server dropping?

SamwiseRed
06-25-2015, 12:12 PM
beta starts in a week or so.

HippoNipple
06-25-2015, 12:14 PM
When is this server dropping?

Beta starts around July 8 I think. I haven't seen a date for actual launch.

fred schnarf
06-25-2015, 12:53 PM
for solo inquis is sick , shamans are a bit weak and are better boxed imo

im going team evil and we all should start a team, not leading the guild tho but have a few great names.

Tavrin
06-25-2015, 01:13 PM
My brother and I will probably be going evil team as well. Depends on how pop ends up, I want to be on the less populated team so that there are more pvp targets.

Paleman
06-25-2015, 01:15 PM
My brother and I will probably be going evil team as well. Depends on how pop ends up, I want to be on the less populated team so that there are more pvp targets.

exile!

SamwiseRed
06-25-2015, 01:15 PM
I can't go evil. Dwarves, frogloks, halflings so goog.

Tavrin
06-25-2015, 01:23 PM
exile!

How does Exile work, can they kill both good and evil ?

Acappella
06-25-2015, 01:27 PM
How does Exile work, can they kill both good and evil ?

Yes, it's FFA, but you lose some Guild-related benefits and amenities. Also, once (if) it goes in, a lot of the PVP gear is faction restricted.

Paleman
06-25-2015, 01:28 PM
How does Exile work, can they kill both good and evil ?

good evil and anyone ungrouped with them. so you can kill exile as well. Its a challenge, but if you are looking for the most unpopulated. exile will be that.

Paleman
06-25-2015, 01:31 PM
I can't go evil. Dwarves, frogloks, halflings so goog.

froglocks are great in pvp. hydromotion ftw. Nothing like just chilling at the bottom of the water pinging confused people.

Paleman
06-25-2015, 01:31 PM
im probably gonna go freeport since the pre-guild I am part of wants to do that.

Kergan
06-25-2015, 01:44 PM
Can always make a frog and betray, no?

fred schnarf
06-25-2015, 01:45 PM
My brother and I will probably be going evil team as well. Depends on how pop ends up, I want to be on the less populated team so that there are more pvp targets.

good team will be 70% of the server evil will be 20% and exile will be 10%

always how it is

fred schnarf
06-25-2015, 01:46 PM
I can't go evil. Dwarves, frogloks, halflings so goog.

classes and races dont matter you can switch factions

it takes some effort but you can fully betray in a weekend if you work @ it

Acappella
06-25-2015, 01:49 PM
classes and races dont matter you can switch factions

it takes some effort but you can fully betray in a weekend if you work @ it

Once you get proficient at it, it can be done in a night. Really not hard at all.. mostly tedious.

Tavrin
06-25-2015, 01:50 PM
good evil and anyone ungrouped with them. so you can kill exile as well. Its a challenge, but if you are looking for the most unpopulated. exile will be that.

That's actually a cool setup. If the classic'ish setup results in a fun game, ill go exile.

Paleman
06-25-2015, 02:01 PM
classes and races dont matter you can switch factions

it takes some effort but you can fully betray in a weekend if you work @ it

betrayal is doable in 3 hours. maybe a little more because you cant access kelethin if you switch to good side.

Races do matter in pvp. some races get integral abilities that help in pvp

here is a list of racial abilities.

http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Racial_Traditions_%28EQ2%29#Dwarf

Tapatio
06-25-2015, 02:19 PM
good team will be 70% of the server evil will be 20% and exile will be 10%

always how it is

classes and races dont matter you can switch factions

it takes some effort but you can fully betray in a weekend if you work @ it

Confused by these two statements. How come good would be so stacked if not because of exclusion raiding class/races? also vaguely remember my pal said he couldn't pick SK with a particular race or faction.

Kergan
06-25-2015, 02:45 PM
Pretty sure you switch classes if you betray to the evil version - i.e. paladin becomes sk.

Paleman
06-25-2015, 02:45 PM
Confused by these two statements. How come good would be so stacked if not because of exclusion raiding class/races? also vaguely remember my pal said he couldn't pick SK with a particular race or faction.

every class has an antithesis class in eq2 ( aside from channeler and Beastlord)

so when you betray to another faction, you have the choice of switching classes. Good will be stacked because most casuals end up playing on good side.

Tapatio
06-25-2015, 02:58 PM
I still don't understand why good would be stacked if there is no advantage to being good?

HippoNipple
06-25-2015, 02:58 PM
Pretty sure you switch classes if you betray to the evil version - i.e. paladin becomes sk.

I only played for a couple weeks at launch but one of the few things I did was betray as a dark elf and it turned me into a paladin.

HippoNipple
06-25-2015, 02:59 PM
I remember being a dark elf paladin on a mount and I figured for me that was pretty much beating the game so I went to WoW because it actually had PvP servers.

Paleman
06-25-2015, 05:12 PM
I still don't understand why good would be stacked if there is no advantage to being good?

betrayal is inconvenient because in order to betray you have to become exile, then do fation for the opposite side. It involves being ganked alot ( because alot of people will camp the betrayal quest givers) . So since the best pvp class probably is gonna be on q side (swash, pally possibly) most will roll there to avoid having to betray.

also its for some erason more popular to be on Q side. no idea why.

Tapatio
06-25-2015, 05:27 PM
could have swore you guys said swash/pally was shit for pvp, now its the best?

eq2 lot 2 learn 4 me

Paleman
06-25-2015, 07:00 PM
could have swore you guys said swash/pally was shit for pvp, now its the best?

eq2 lot 2 learn 4 me

if i said swash is shit I am retarded. Its definitly one of the top 3 best classes in pvp. Pally not so much, but since the class has changed alot fundamentally since launch, it could be alot better than it used to be.


In reality there isnt a best class to play. Only a class that performs better in pvp with ease, which people with less experience tend to flock to because its easy pvp success. Any good player can be successful in pvp with the class they like if they learn it.

Pumped
06-25-2015, 07:21 PM
could have swore you guys said swash/pally was shit for pvp, now its the best?

eq2 lot 2 learn 4 me

paladins have viable group heals and good stuns for pvp, swash is great dps

all eq2 classes are viable its designed that way

Tapatio
06-25-2015, 07:48 PM
it does sound like everything has a counter and is better balanced than eq1

... from reading discussions

which sounds promising

Pumped
06-25-2015, 08:53 PM
I find it hard to believe so many of you haven't played eq2 its great up till the odus expansion imo

might be a nice change since velious isn't coming for a while, even when it does it will just be people fighting over loot like its never going to drop again.

loot makes people nuts

HippoNipple
06-25-2015, 10:07 PM
it does sound like everything has a counter and is better balanced than eq1

... from reading discussions

which sounds promising

I have been reading up on it and it does seem like every class bitches about something, which usually points towards some balance.

One thing I have seen consistently is that shaman healers aren't ideal because of cast times and other classes having enough CC to shut them down with those longer cast times.

Another is that the bards have a pretty tough time but I think I'm still going to give them a shot.

iiNGloriouS
06-25-2015, 11:48 PM
I have been reading up on it and it does seem like every class bitches about something, which usually points towards some balance.

One thing I have seen consistently is that shaman healers aren't ideal because of cast times and other classes having enough CC to shut them down with those longer cast times.

Another is that the bards have a pretty tough time but I think I'm still going to give them a shot.

Bards really don't come into their own until Echoes of Faydwer.

Swashbucklers are prob #1 til Ruins of Kunark which they fall off a bit but are still great. They'll be absolute monsters in Kingdom of Sky and Echoes.

Paleman
06-25-2015, 11:52 PM
i think brig will beat most classes along with assasin after the first expansion. all the debuffs, dispel and double up is hard to compete with in pvp.

bards are gonna be OP for anyone who knows how to use one. The only thing bard lacks that concerns me at launch is jesters cap. the rest is whatever.

Paleman
06-25-2015, 11:54 PM
I have been reading up on it and it does seem like every class bitches about something, which usually points towards some balance.

One thing I have seen consistently is that shaman healers aren't ideal because of cast times and other classes having enough CC to shut them down with those longer cast times.

Another is that the bards have a pretty tough time but I think I'm still going to give them a shot.

the biggest problem with eq2 class balance is that alot of people can play eq2 and get away with not knowing how combat works 100%. so they complain and the developers listen to their customers, and end up breaking things as a result. also alot of class changes were made with only pve in mind and not pvp which ended up breaking pvp some. so its a mixed bag.


shamans will be stronger when they get AAs, and are still formidable in groups. just not till then.

HippoNipple
06-25-2015, 11:57 PM
I just logged in and got veteran rewards from 1 day to 11 years. Too bad all the rewards seem pointless.

Rhinehouse
06-26-2015, 02:46 AM
i understand how the class system works on reggy servers atm where necros/brigs/sk/dirge must be evil team, but thought i read somewhere devs said that both factions will have all classes? still not clear how that will work. wonder if the good races will be able to roll the evil class or would u have to roll evil class to play a brig then betray. normally i guess in that case the betrayer would switch to a swash but here it sounds like that would not be the case? unless i am completely wrong, not sure.

iiNGloriouS
06-26-2015, 05:21 AM
I just logged in and got veteran rewards from 1 day to 11 years. Too bad all the rewards seem pointless.

Naw Mystic Moppet Billy is the shit.

Tapatio
06-26-2015, 08:37 AM
the biggest problem with eq2 class balance is that alot of people can play eq2 and get away with not knowing how combat works 100%. so they complain and the developers listen to their customers, and end up breaking things as a result.

so, just like red99

Paleman
06-26-2015, 10:18 AM
so, just like red99

not exactly since the customers at DBG have to pay. eq2 has some semblance of balance. eq pvp hasnt ever really been balanced imo.

Tavrin
06-26-2015, 10:50 AM
How are wizards and illusionists through the first couple of expansions?

Paleman
06-26-2015, 12:34 PM
How are wizards and illusionists through the first couple of expansions?

illusionists are great in pvp but have a high skill cap. You really need to understand eq2 and how illusionists play to play one well in pvp. They are super squishy, but if they get the jump on a group they can literally mez the whole group and kill them all one by one. There are a few videos from a guy named peak that shows him killing a raid of 3 groups on his illy in later tiers.


Wizards are powerful, can nearly one shot you or one shot you, but are super squishy. Wizards usually lose against tanks, and scouts. They get more powerful after they get manashield from AAs.

Sanchise
06-26-2015, 05:50 PM
Playoff Sanchise is coming..... I am getting a rather good laugh at how simple it will be to run the lot of you off the server and back to a game that aged as well Walmart milk...

Pumped
06-26-2015, 09:44 PM
question, none of my account logins work for my eq2 accounts

so when daybreak took over do I have to transfer my stuff over or something?

HippoNipple
06-26-2015, 09:58 PM
question, none of my account logins work for my eq2 accounts

so when daybreak took over do I have to transfer my stuff over or something?

I was able to log into mine with no trouble.

Kergan
06-27-2015, 03:52 AM
question, none of my account logins work for my eq2 accounts

so when daybreak took over do I have to transfer my stuff over or something?

I had no issues logging in any of mine.

Stasis01
06-27-2015, 09:11 PM
So I just paid the 15 bucks for the account for All Access and I'm good to play this server?

I don't own any games or w/e.

Sheriff
06-27-2015, 09:17 PM
So I just paid the 15 bucks for the account for All Access and I'm good to play this server?

I don't own any games or w/e.

Yes. It'll download for you.

iiNGloriouS
06-28-2015, 03:06 AM
Stacy want to be my squire? I need an astounding EQ1 pal to warp into the perfect EQ2 pvp machine. :)

Magikarp
06-28-2015, 04:07 AM
anyone wanna make a duo with me b4 july 7?

dont all pm at once

but really let's do it happy to /duel at various levels

Mudslinger
06-28-2015, 08:53 AM
Have been thinking about it. EQ2 PvP has to be more complex/have a higher skill ceiling than 1, right?

No eq 2 pvp is dumbed down for cry babies aka no gateing once pvp flagged ( as soon as your engaged in pvp combat your flagged ) movement speed is cut to 0% bonus to "make it fair " dmg is massively reduced and at a later point I. The game they will make pve gear have 0 effect in pvp so you must male a 2nd set of pvp gear ..... eq 2 pvp blows ........

Hobeetr Freepeater Naggy

Zlac Isback. Naggy

Tavrin
06-28-2015, 11:08 AM
The game they will make pve gear have 0 effect in pvp so you must male a 2nd set of pvp gear.

The new time locked servers will not have any pvp gear.

Pvp might still end up being crap, but some of the new rules make it worth a shot in beta.

Stasis01
06-28-2015, 11:34 AM
Stacy want to be my squire? I need an astounding EQ1 pal to warp into the perfect EQ2 pvp machine. :)

sure man!

Stasis01
06-28-2015, 11:35 AM
I'm thinking Paladin but I dunno we need 2 talk.

Pumped
06-28-2015, 02:54 PM
12. Can I pay for my monthly subscription with Daybreak Cash?
No, monthly subscriptions cannot be purchased with Daybreak Cash, however, optional memberships in DGC free-to-play games (Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures, Free Realms, Pirates of the Burning Sea, and Everquest II Extended) can be purchased with Daybreak Cash. This can be done in the in-game marketplace.


Well thats pretty lame they are making all subscription based things cost real money instead of buying able to buy a gold key monthly which blows dicks.

If new server isnt classified as extended im out fo sho

heartbrand
06-28-2015, 03:04 PM
Good I hope they keep all the poor people off. Wish it was 49.99 a month.

DeadlyApostle
06-28-2015, 03:07 PM
If you use a kronos on an account that already has an all access sub going it adds 30 days to that sub..

Pumped
06-28-2015, 04:41 PM
Good I hope they keep all the poor people off. Wish it was 49.99 a month.

has nothing to do with poor, i have money i just am not going to spend it on eq2

eq2 is a fun game but i cant play unless i play 6 accounts, and their previous subscription model let you use station cash to buy gold membership, all my chars have cash leftover, almost enough to sub each one, but they changed the store to make all services website purchase only, basically station cash is worthless now.

But in a way daybreak is a great thing, because they are going to put life into old games, maybe if we are lucky they will re release vanguard : )

Pumped
06-28-2015, 04:42 PM
If you use a kronos on an account that already has an all access sub going it adds 30 days to that sub..

kronos in game are 7000 platinum and no one sells them for real cash because the game is basically dead, the 3 servers i tried other night no one was talking in general chat and i saw 2 people in town.

Obv im not in the high level area but open chat is a good indication of server health.

Taboo
06-28-2015, 05:24 PM
Some old eq2 pvp videos I scrounged up. Enjoy!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spwfLHANi1U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VKBrnGq9_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq-VY2f79Cw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBtPVLQvPbU

Pumped
06-28-2015, 05:47 PM
not watching dgaf

iiNGloriouS
06-28-2015, 06:00 PM
I'm thinking Paladin but I dunno we need 2 talk.

For sure I have the next few days off ill be home round 2am but u prob wont be up.

Taboo
06-29-2015, 09:36 PM
Is Nizzar actually bringing Nihilum to this TLE server? Going to be a rude awakening.

SamwiseRed
06-29-2015, 09:38 PM
a lot of them played eq2 pvp back in eq2 classic. they are rolling good.

Taboo
06-29-2015, 09:44 PM
Excellent.

SamwiseRed
06-29-2015, 09:45 PM
im going good with or without nilly.

if for some reason good ends up being a complete zerg, going exile.

iiNGloriouS
06-29-2015, 09:54 PM
im going good with or without nilly.

if for some reason good ends up being a complete zerg, going exile.

God damn Sam. We're gonna become best pals.

SamwiseRed
06-29-2015, 09:56 PM
God damn Sam. We're gonna become best pals.

http://memecrunch.com/meme/P03A/ze-medic-memes-you/image.jpg

DeadlyApostle
06-29-2015, 11:00 PM
Is Nizzar actually bringing Nihilum to this TLE server? Going to be a rude awakening.

Myself and Nizzarr both played EQ2 PvP for years soooo yeah.... we know there is going to be competition.Its looking like it will be a lot of fun with Onyx and Kraken both for sure coming back.

Kergan
06-30-2015, 04:01 AM
90% sure I'm going inquisitor, bro going beastlord and my cousin going brawler. Evil side. See you goodies on the battle field. :)

Tradesonred
06-30-2015, 05:47 AM
Did they ever fix the thing where you cant buff someone unless hes in your group, and if buffer leaves group, buffs drop?

That and needing 2 accounts to buy and sell in auction house made me drop the game before launch month was over to try that new game everyone was talking about, WoW.

Pwning yourself in the face while crafting and losing like 1 hour of combat xp, that was a nice touch too.

Will probably be tempted to try this when it launches anyway.

Tassador
06-30-2015, 07:16 AM
Did they ever fix the thing where you cant buff someone unless hes in your group, and if buffer leaves group, buffs drop?

That and needing 2 accounts to buy and sell in auction house made me drop the game before launch month was over to try that new game everyone was talking about, WoW.

Pwning yourself in the face while crafting and losing like 1 hour of combat xp, that was a nice touch too.

Will probably be tempted to try this when it launches anyway.

With eq2 will have another population that will be able to preach our nobility and tell them what's funny and what's over the line.

HippoNipple
06-30-2015, 09:49 AM
90% sure I'm going inquisitor, bro going beastlord and my cousin going brawler. Evil side. See you goodies on the battle field. :)

I'm rolling on the evil side but then I plan on betraying and joining the Duke, just like Red99.

Tavrin
06-30-2015, 10:36 AM
It's going to be fun killing nilly again for a few months until they get crazy amounts of raid gear.

Like the early days of r99.

Paleman
06-30-2015, 10:39 AM
Myself and Nizzarr both played EQ2 PvP for years soooo yeah.... we know there is going to be competition.Its looking like it will be a lot of fun with Onyx and Kraken both for sure coming back.

they both will be in one guild though. so prepare to get dumped on by them or russians. lol

Paleman
06-30-2015, 10:40 AM
It's going to be fun killing nilly again for a few months until they get crazy amounts of raid gear.

Like the early days of r99.

they wont get raid gear for a while. Unless they static spawn content it will be on lockdown from russians or onyx/havoc as soon as cap is hit.

Tapatio
06-30-2015, 11:11 AM
Willan plz link me the online application to join you In EQ2

bigbeng
06-30-2015, 01:29 PM
I will be Joining the duke`s army Eximo Warden . idontmiss assassin! we know vary well what ego`s we are up against. i Helped Destroy havoc then most quit and made a new guild Darkhand they also died. And if onyx isent sharp they will fall as well.

Check out the duke`s army at : http://valor.tgaming.org/

The name is going to be for beta the real name will be for you to find out.

romme12
06-30-2015, 01:35 PM
What do i have to do to download beta client, or whatever client needed to play on that server

SamwiseRed
06-30-2015, 01:36 PM
its live so download the official client

romme12
06-30-2015, 01:49 PM
alright, ty for the info, see you guys in game

SamwiseRed
06-30-2015, 01:53 PM
i meant its eq live as in not emu. the beta itself doesnt start til the 6th :D

Tavrin
06-30-2015, 02:05 PM
For those that played EQ2 at Launch. Are there any legacy items to push for before they get taken out of the game? If there are, I imagine there will be some mass PvP in those areas. Battling over the Manastone camp on r99 was a blast.

Pumped
06-30-2015, 02:20 PM
90% sure I'm going inquisitor, bro going beastlord and my cousin going brawler. Evil side. See you goodies on the battle field. :)

beastlord will not exist

HippoNipple
06-30-2015, 02:26 PM
beastlord will not exist

They are going to probably let the two new classes be in, along with the new races. I don't know if it is confirmed but I saw a dev say he didn't like the idea of withholding classes/races that people paid for.

Stupid reasoning in my opinion, since that is what a progress server is, withholding content.

SamwiseRed
06-30-2015, 02:38 PM
im still split on froglok/halfling/dwarf

Stasis01
06-30-2015, 02:42 PM
Think I'm going Faerie wizard with black wings and like dark skin for full camo.

Tavrin
06-30-2015, 02:45 PM
im still split on froglok/halfling/dwarf

Froglok. Everything else is a distant second.

Kill someone, then jump up and down on their corpse shouting 'Ribbit'.

Tapatio
06-30-2015, 02:45 PM
They are going to probably let the two new classes be in, along with the new races. I don't know if it is confirmed but I saw a dev say he didn't like the idea of withholding classes/races that people paid for.

Stupid reasoning in my opinion, since that is what a progress server is, withholding content.

Comparing it to eq1 progression it's very generic progression. Everyone has origin aa, u can be gnome paladin with guise of deceiver. Druids have translocation and indoor sow.

Mr Popo
06-30-2015, 02:57 PM
They are going to probably let the two new classes be in, along with the new races. I don't know if it is confirmed but I saw a dev say he didn't like the idea of withholding classes/races that people paid for.

Stupid reasoning in my opinion, since that is what a progress server is, withholding content.

LMAO. Progression server thats already progressed....

SamwiseRed
06-30-2015, 03:02 PM
unless they are broken classes (sounds like they are), i dont consider race/class combos progression. they need to add halfling paladin/ranger and gnome sl/pal to this server before i stop donating.

Pumped
06-30-2015, 03:17 PM
im still split on froglok/halfling/dwarf

frogloks will not be in at launch if its a progression server

Pumped
06-30-2015, 03:18 PM
Think I'm going Faerie wizard with black wings and like dark skin for full camo.

faeris and arisai are EOF and will not be in at launch , sorry

also people who make butterflies in that game are *Bleep*

Paleman
06-30-2015, 03:40 PM
They are going to probably let the two new classes be in, along with the new races. I don't know if it is confirmed but I saw a dev say he didn't like the idea of withholding classes/races that people paid for.

Stupid reasoning in my opinion, since that is what a progress server is, withholding content.

this is till undecided. Kander stated how he felt, but it doesnt mean that what the players want cant override that.