TMO - A New Era

[Zeelot]

TMO is back. Find us at our old domain at www.themysticalorder.net.

We are starting fresh, have a new layout, and a live Web chat that everyone is free to join.

For those who were TMO members while we played on P99, if you are interested in joining back up on the forums please send me a PM on this forum(p99 forums), confirming the name you registered with on our forum.

Feel free to join and hang out on our member forum or live Web chat.

Forum layout is still being finalized so expect a few more changes as we go.

For those who are part of FE(the guild they currently also call TMO), some of you may be welcome in the future as well. These decisions will happen once the TMO core is organized.

People may be wondering what our plans are. All I can say now is, time will tell.

Regards,

[Champion_Standing]

http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/malibu.jpg

[LoliPops]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1709671_o.gif

[Shinko]

lol

[Shinko]

Forceful Entry is back. Find us at our old domain at http://www.forceful-entry.com/

We are starting fresh, have a new layout, and a live Web chat that everyone is free to join.

For those who were FE members while we played on P99, if you are interested in joining back up on the forums please send me a PM on this forum(p99 forums), confirming the name you registered with on our forum.

Feel free to join and hang out on our member forum or live Web chat.

Forum layout is still being finalized so expect a few more changes as we go.

For those who are part of TMO/(Rampage)(the guild they currently also call Rampage), some of you may be welcome in the future as well. These decisions will happen once the FE core is organized.

People may be wondering what our plans are. All I can say now is, time will tell.

Regards,

[DeathWalking]

The Schutzstaffel is back. Find us at our old domain at http://Schutzstaffel.com/ (http://kek.lel)

We are starting fresh, have a new layout, and a live Web chat that everyone is free to join if you're aryan.

For those who were SS members while we played on Poland99, if you are interested in joining back up on the forums please send me a Panzerfaust on this forum(poland99 forums), confirming your pure lineage and the name you registered with on our forum.

Feel free to join and hang out on our member forum or live Web chat.

Forum layout is still being finalized so expect a few swastikas as we go.

For those who are part of SS/(Luftwaffe)(the guild they currently also call Luftwaffe), some of you may be welcome in the future as well. These decisions will happen once Derpanzerdivision core is organized.

People may be wondering what our plans are. All I can say now is, it involves eugenics.
Regards,

[Swish]

Is Vesica Dei back too?

Also will the quality of TMO apps improve? Some truly terrible Everquest players leveling in KC at the moment.

[MEGANS LAW]

all u blue peeps are welcome to come 2 red for dargons

[Tiggles]

all u blue peeps are welcome to come 2 red for dargons

Lots of us are considering making the guild Red only.

[DeathWalking]

Lots of us are considering making the guild Red only.

fucking up one server isnt good enough i see

[Zalaerian]

u slanderin Tiggles you piece of shit?

[DeathWalking]

i want tiggles peepee so bad

[Pookieson]

fucking up one server isnt good enough i see

[MEGANS LAW]

i wish i could find u in rl cause i'd fucking skin u 4 disrespecting tiggles.

he's a fuking scholar and a gentleman.

you're nothing but a night riding fire giant erudite dick sucking piece of shit.

[DeathWalking]

^^^^^^^
http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Jimmies-Maximum-Over-Rustled-Meme-Gif.gif

[Pookieson]

Tiggles is a fuck, and so are you boot licking noobs. Your a big fish in a little pond, who can barely hold onto 15 year old content. While i will say most of you are cool people who enjoy playing the game, a lot of you are washed up raiders who couldnt keep up with the real end game content anymore. Quit acting so hard, its pathetic. You ruin the classic raiding for everyone with your shit attitude.

[Zeelot]

Don't mean to derail the conversation, but....Our live Web chat is open to everyone. We have an open chat channel free to use. There are also passworded private chat rooms that will become accessible once people sign up and are added to the TMO members group.

Enjoy

[DeathWalking]

Tiggles is a fuck, and so are you boot licking noobs. Your a big fish in a little pond, who can barely hold onto 15 year old content. While i will say most of you are cool people who enjoy playing the game, a lot of you are washed up raiders who couldnt keep up with the real end game content anymore. Quit acting so hard, its pathetic. You ruin the classic raiding for everyone with your shit attitude.

remember that time they disbanded the guild after 80something of their members got banned for RMT? best christmas gift anyone could ever hope for

[Jfertal]

Pras!

[Tiggles]

Pras!

[Detoxx]

remember that time they disbanded the guild after 80something of their members got banned for RMT? best christmas gift anyone could ever hope for

Nah I dont, I remember when 2 people got caught duping and got 80 something accounts they logged into temporarily suspended. Also, only one RMTer.

Truth is much less inflammatory, eh?

[DeathWalking]

youre wrong

[Detoxx]

youre wrong

Exploiting a bug such as this is one of the worst forms of cheating, far worse than the use of third party programs. It has the potential of affecting the entire server in a negative way, and furthermore it breaks the trust and friendships you may have with other players as they now too are affected by your actions. The punishments for this are severe. All associated accounts, meaning any account this person logged into, will be receiving a form of disciplinary action regardless of owner.

There were only a handful of accounts that were used to perform the exploit, however, the exploiters have logged into 106 different accounts in total. Of these accounts, 86 of them are guilded in The Mystical Order. While most of these accounts are owned by other players who may have had no knowledge of the actions of the people they were sharing their accounts with, the account owners take that risk when they share their information.

We had a CSR Staff meeting last night to decide how to proceed, and we agreed on the following.

All accounts are initially receiving bans. Accounts that are owned by the persons actually performing the exploit will not be unbanned, neither will accounts that generally have no owner (Shared banks, porters, trackers, etc).

Accounts owned by others that were logged into by the exploiters a small number of times will be reviewed on a case by case basis, and could be reduced to a 2 to 4 week suspension. Only accounts logged into a small number of times will be given this reduction.

Im sorry, you were saying?

[DeathWalking]

hey look at me typing things into a quote so it says what i want kek

[Detoxx]

Hey look at me ignoring facts and continuing to be a complete moron!

[Eponymous Anonymous]

You unbolded the part where it said those players were guilded in the Mystical Order. Try to gloss over it all you want, but the fact remains that the TMO tag is notorious for harboring exploiters, cheaters and RMTers.

[Detoxx]

You unbolded the part where it said those players were guilded in the Mystical Order. Try to gloss over it all you want, but the fact remains that the TMO tag is notorious for harboring exploiters, cheaters and RMTers.

I unbolded that part that was irrelevant to my point. I never claimed it wasnt people in TMO, foo

[DeathWalking]

youre wrong and mad that the guild youre a fanboy of is so badsad the entire server laughs at them

seek help

[quido]

*moran

[Darkdeathx]

This is exciting!! The spam posts from the scared haters makes me want to play even more!!

DD

[Detoxx]

youre wrong and mad that the guild youre a fanboy of is so badsad the entire server laughs at them

seek help

Wish I knew who this non factor was. Seems awfully butthurt today.

[Tiggles]

Wish I knew who this non factor was. Seems awfully butthurt today.

Maerlith/Forumshift. I got him banned for spamming and he got a hard on for me.

[DeathWalking]

Maerlith/Forumshift. I got him banned for spamming and he got a hard on for me.

lol i wasnt maerlith, ya moran

[Detoxx]

Maerlith/Forumshift. I got him banned for spamming and he got a hard on for me.

Oh I saw his name in Sig. Still don't know who he is though.

[Jfertal]

Im still pretty moist...

[Ella`Ella]

Wish I knew who this non factor was. Seems awfully butthurt today.

Probs the roid rage.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179258&highlight=Whey+performance

[Zeelot]

Please be patient on membership access, getting so many requests to join - I am sorting through them all now.

[Aviann]

Good to see you back Zee, good luck!

[Tasslehofp99]

Glad to see you guys are back!



Hope you get those RMT bans cleared up.

[Ravager]

Lots of us are considering making the guild Red only.

About time. So when do you plan to absorb Holocaust under the TMO tag?

[Tiggles]

Glad to see you guys are back!



Hope you get those RMT bans cleared up.

Already working on it.

one out of three.

[Ahldagor]

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/2/Open/Warner%20Brothers%20Distribution/Welcome%20Back,%20Kotter/_4by3/_derived_jpg_q90_600x800_m0/00300336.jpg

[DeathWalking]

Probs the roid rage.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179258&highlight=Whey+performance

thats right, ive got fans.


saving my posts <3

[Clark]

Disbands guild.
Steals guildbank.
Joins enemy guild.
Takes 1.5yr hiatus.
Comes back and thinks he has a white knight factor.

[MaksimMazor]

He has risen

[Obliterator]

Disbands guild.
Steals guildbank.
Joins enemy guild.
Takes 1.5yr hiatus.
Comes back and thinks he has a white knight factor.

uhh do you even TMO dude?

[quido]

Disbands guild.
Steals guildbank.
Joins enemy guild.
Takes 1.5yr hiatus.
Comes back and thinks he has a white knight factor.

Proves how little you understand. We're used to it.

[Susvain2]

"Clark" is not a member of TMO and never has been. Dude is some crazy delusional weirdo, dunno who he is

[Tiggles]

"Clark" is not a member of TMO and never has been. Dude is some crazy delusional weirdo, dunno who he is

[Clark]

Lot of retards posting back to back.

[indiscriminate_hater]

http://i.imgur.com/6f7gKuh.jpg

[indiscriminate_hater]

Proves how little you understand. We're used to it.

someone actually proved it?

[Alarti0001]

Proves how little you understand. We're used to it.

[Alarti0001]

Lot of retards posting back to back.

Irony^

[Nukehard]

Zeelot had died,
Zeelot has risen,
Zeelot will come agaiiinnnnnn

[Prismaticshop]

If Zeelot comes back, Sloan might as well and it will be an adderall competition again.

pras

[Tiggles]

No Troll but I saw a lot of old faces last night and I was super happy to get back in touch with them.

[Zalaerian]

Squire Tiggles had made mention of TMO rollin on red. Aim chat supports this move and will help get them on their feet if needed

[Slathar]

will train these awful players off red

[Swish]

A lot of dead weight in TMO at the moment that's for sure.

Grouped with a really terrible bard in KC the other day and there's a famous failed Europa app who turned up there the following week - barely remembers that he's still playing EverQuest until you spam him with tells for a heal.

I'd nuke the guild from orbit and start again.

[Seltius]

Enjoyed catching up with some old friends last night in chat.

[mropey]

Enjoyed catching up with some old friends last night in chat.

Aye its been fun. Nice to see lots of old names again.

[Arteker]

A lot of dead weight in TMO at the moment that's for sure.

Grouped with a really terrible bard in KC the other day and there's a famous failed Europa app who turned up there the following week - barely remembers that he's still playing EverQuest until you spam him with tells for a heal.

I'd nuke the guild from orbit and start again.

http://i60.tinypic.com/o6bome.gif

[Juevento]

A lot of dead weight in TMO at the moment that's for sure.

Grouped with a really terrible bard in KC the other day and there's a famous failed Europa app who turned up there the following week - barely remembers that he's still playing EverQuest until you spam him with tells for a heal.

I'd nuke the guild from orbit and start again.

TMO was never known for their competent players... They were known because they had a lot of players and players with no sense of morality. Not sure what's any different from any other time.

[drktmplr12]

ITT:

http://imgur.com/IoHxwL8

[DeathWalking]

TMO was never known for their competent players... They were known because they had a lot of players and players with no sense of morality. Not sure what's any different from any other time.

dont forget the summon gm spell-like ability

[DeathWalking]

for those maximum petitionquest immersion feels

[HalflingWarrior]

Squire Tiggles had made mention of TMO rollin on red. Aim chat supports this move and will help get them on their feet if needed


A summation of Red99 life:

<Empire> uses BIS, epicced, deleveled twinks to kill lvl 20s wearing cloth armor and brag about being good at PvP

<Empire> trashes new players in rags for asking for 100pp for spell money....then gives their buddies lvl 1 epics and 100,000pp in gear

Then his buddies brag about how they too are great at PvP as they proceed to also kill lvl 20s in cloth armor with their rogue epics and fungus

I miss anything important here?

[Halfelfbard]

Cheap rip off of my name, and yes i miss the old TMO webside lots of memories there.

Where the white women at?

[Swish]

http://i60.tinypic.com/o6bome.gif

I love it :D

[Arteker]

TMO was never known for their competent players... They were known because they had a lot of players and players with no sense of morality. Not sure what's any different from any other time.

http://i61.tinypic.com/n1z9q8.jpg

[Seltius]

Cheap rip off of my name, and yes i miss the old TMO webside lots of memories there.

Where the white women at?

HALFELF SUP MAN?!

[Halfelfbard]

Bin doin good, I'm enjoying the fire Z has brought with him.

[Zalaerian]

A summation of Red99 life:

<Empire> uses BIS, epicced, deleveled twinks to kill lvl 20s wearing cloth armor and brag about being good at PvP

<Empire> trashes new players in rags for asking for 100pp for spell money....then gives their buddies lvl 1 epics and 100,000pp in gear

Then his buddies brag about how they too are great at PvP as they proceed to also kill lvl 20s in cloth armor with their rogue epics and fungus

I miss anything important here?

Got prof or just slanderin?

[Alarti0001]

TMO was never known for their competent players... They were known because they had a lot of players and players with no sense of morality. Not sure what's any different from any other time.

Says BDA scum. ROFL Supreme cognitive dissonance.
That's like Tim Tebow calling about Peyton Manning as a bad QB.

[kaev]

Says BDA scum. ROFL Supreme cognitive dissonance.
That's like Tim Tebow calling about Peyton Manning as a bad QB.

OMG IRONY OVERLOAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


WARNING! WARNING! DANGER! Penny Robinson return to the ship!

[Slathar]

A summation of Red99 life:

<Empire> uses BIS, epicced, deleveled twinks to kill lvl 20s wearing cloth armor and brag about being good at PvP

<Empire> trashes new players in rags for asking for 100pp for spell money....then gives their buddies lvl 1 epics and 100,000pp in gear

Then his buddies brag about how they too are great at PvP as they proceed to also kill lvl 20s in cloth armor with their rogue epics and fungus

I miss anything important here?


the officers RMT aons to pay for pills which they then use to buy more pixels. its a vicious cycle of 3am questing and pill selling.

[Juevento]

Says BDA scum. ROFL Supreme cognitive dissonance.
That's like Tim Tebow calling about Peyton Manning as a bad QB.

I just call it like I see it.

For the record, Tebow has a better winning percentage in the playoffs than Manning.

[Juevento]

Hell while I am at it, Tebow's QB rating in the playoffs is better than Mannings as well.

[Alarti0001]

I just call it like I see it.

For the record, Tebow has a better winning percentage in the playoffs than Manning.

^ Thinks winning percentage in the playoffs is a QB stat.

[Humerox]

A summation of Red99 life:

<Empire> uses BIS, epicced, deleveled twinks to kill lvl 20s wearing cloth armor and brag about being good at PvP

<Empire> trashes new players in rags for asking for 100pp for spell money....then gives their buddies lvl 1 epics and 100,000pp in gear

Then his buddies brag about how they too are great at PvP as they proceed to also kill lvl 20s in cloth armor with their rogue epics and fungus

I miss anything important here?

Yeah. <Good Guys> are ruining their fun. :D

[quido]

FOOTBALL

[Kennie]

And Tebow has played in what two playoff games? Dumb comment.

[Seltius]

Mama says Foozball is de debil

[Alarti0001]

FOOTBALL

Jeremy hates sports. In case anyone didn't know.

[quido]

I hate professional sports spectators, not the sports. I play sports several times a week - see http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169475 for reference.

I'm here to remind you to try to keep your sports played-to-watched ratio up.

[Kennie]

^ nobody cares

[HalflingWarrior]

Got prof or just slanderin?

Yea video proof. Need I remind everyone of that tiwtchtv slut ur guild gave a lvl 1 fungi and cleric epic too?

Last time I did that I got lots of hateful pms

[Alarti0001]

I hate professional sports spectators, not the sports. I play sports several times a week - see http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169475 for reference.

I'm here to remind you to try to keep your sports played-to-watched ratio up.

Prove it

[Detoxx]

Cheap rip off of my name, and yes i miss the old TMO webside lots of memories there.

Where the white women at?

They all white girl wasted

[Tasslehofp99]

I just call it like I see it.

For the record, Tebow has a better winning percentage in the playoffs than Manning.

Hell while I am at it, Tebow's QB rating in the playoffs is better than Mannings as well.


Peyton Manning won a superbowl.


Tebow will be a car mechanic or something by the time Peyton is done playing in the NFL.


Just saying.

[Clark]

Peyton Manning won a superbowl.


Tebow will be a car mechanic or something by the time Peyton is done playing in the NFL.


Just saying.

LOL

[Clark]

I play sports several times a week

This simply can't be true. People who listen to Bob Dylan type music don't play sports man.

[Juevento]

Peyton Manning won a superbowl.


Tebow will be a car mechanic or something by the time Peyton is done playing in the NFL.


Just saying.

Peyton Manning was on a team that won a Super Bowl. Let's get that straight. He was also playing against a team that included Rex Grossman as the starting quarterback.

[Clark]

Rex Grossboy.

[Kennie]

^ and beat a team whose qb was tom Brady to get there. Just stop you are embarrassing yourself.

[Tiggles]

Big doings happening today. Lots of people returning. Head on over and join the webchat say hello to some old friends.

[Uggme]

Big doings happening today. Lots of cheaters returning. Head on over and join the webchat say hello to some old banned RMTers

Fixed.

[Tiggles]

Fixed.

Pras that.

[Zalaerian]

Squire Tiggles,

What say thee about red? Aim chat is awaiting a response

[Samaritan]

Pras Zeelot!


- CTV Nodd

[Arkanjil]

GO BRONCOS!!!

[Zeelot]

CTV was an awesome guild. The only other guild I loved as much as TMO. Long time no see!!

You ever hear from Siilvir or Brael? I miss those guys. Would love to get back in touch. They were legit.

[DeathWalking]

Hey zeelot, how much will warrior epics cost?

[Zabekis]

Hey Zeelot, Zhake here. I haven't played in awhile (was mostly waiting for Velious) but I'd love to join back up into TMO when/if I come back - how would I go about doing that?

[Prismaticshop]

Disbands guild and steals GB whilst going apeshit against the staff.

Comes back and wants to lead a new guild.

Will you end up doing the same to that new entity ?

[quido]

Hey, what do you know - the guild bank is still in the hands of the people primarily responsible for accumulating it, and will likely soon be used to benefit all those people who helped build it.

[Prismaticshop]

It has benefited 3 people so far (Zeelot, Darkdeath and Loly) who are all 3 banned for RMT.

The utility of that stolen GB is hence null.

Still raises the question if Zeelot will eventually throw a tantrum again and disband what ever entity he can lead.

[Alarti0001]

It has benefited 3 people so far (Zeelot, Darkdeath and Loly) who are all 3 banned for RMT.

The utility of that stolen GB is hence null.

Still raises the question if Zeelot will eventually throw a tantrum again and disband what ever entity he can lead.

post on your main account.

[Serith]

It has benefited 3 people so far (Zeelot, Darkdeath and Loly) who are all 3 banned for RMT.

The utility of that stolen GB is hence null.

Still raises the question if Zeelot will eventually throw a tantrum again and disband what ever entity he can lead.

You forgot Derubael. http://s23.postimg.org/m7qkyccp3/avatar_1_1400727124.png

[quido]

Loly is banned for being a drunk asshole, not for RMT.

If justice is served, Zeelot and Darkdeath will be liberated eventually. They never RMTed shit.

[Verenity]

Loly is banned for being a drunk asshole, not for RMT.

If justice is served, Zeelot and Darkdeath will be liberated eventually. They never RMTed shit.

Sounds like they were banned for future crimes that they might have one day committed? Sounds like some Minority Report bullshit.

[yeaboykk]

I can only take people who post under their main account seriously. Good for you guys, no matter I agree or disagree with you, I always thought anon accounts were the dumbest thing ever.

[Zeelot]

Sup Zhake. If you want to join, register on the forums and pm me on p99 boards once done.

[Champion_Standing]

U guys wanna borrow my tin foil hat?

[kaev]

U guys wanna borrow my tin foil hat?

No need, this is Project 1999. There's plenty of tinfoil ready to hand for everybody here.

[Champion_Standing]

These guys ain't got shit on my tinfoil hat.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5133341/il_570xN.171626514.jpg

[Eccezan]

Hey, what do you know - the guild bank is still in the hands of the people primarily responsible for accumulating it, and will likely soon be used to benefit all those people who helped build it.

this is me agreeing with jeremy.

[Zeelot]

Disbands guild and steals GB whilst going apeshit against the staff.

Comes back and wants to lead a new guild.

Will you end up doing the same to that new entity ?

Guild bank is still 100% intact unless Derubael did something with it.

My character will be unbanned and so will Darkdeath's, as soon as the staff gather confidence to face the past mistakes.

[Zeelot]

I will publicly post the irrefutable evidence of bogus accusations if I am not unbanned and do not hear back by this weekend. I've only shared the screens with with staff so far, but they like to ignore reality it seems.

If they aren't going to reverse things even with screenshot evidence that shows their accusations are bogus, then it only looks bad on them.

[Uggme]

Why wait? Prove it.

Honestly you owe the server an explanation as much as the staff.

[Zeelot]

No I don't lol. I'll wait because it's likely they will unban me before I have to start calling them out on the BS. Giving them the benefit of the doubt that they will correct their wrongs within a reasonable amount of time.

[Alarti0001]

Why wait? Prove it.

Honestly you owe the server an explanation as much as the staff.

This is a moderated forum

[Uggme]

No I don't lol. I'll wait because it's likely they will unban me before I have to start calling them out on the BS. Giving them the benefit of the doubt that they will correct their wrongs within a reasonable amount of time.

You have been accused and punished for alleged RMT activities, which was widely suspected by the rest of the server well before the 84 account ban wave. This means you are a guilty party trying for an appeal so to speak.

You waited 1.5 years to come forward with this apparent "irrefutable evidence". Why the delay? If this evidence supported you so strongly, why was it not submitted before?

Another interesting facet here is that you are trying to get your main accounts back which likely holds millions of plat in stuff. I'm sure you are aware of the imminent release of Velious and the ever inflating market inside P99 as the player base grows. It makes the running of this entire stunt suspect.

[quido]

Uggme, do you have any proof of RMT activities?

Or just baseless speculation?

[BulletCatcher]

Does Uggme need much evidence? they were banned right? for RMT? fuck em ... fuck em right in their pussies. Who the fuck is Uggme anyway (i know its you big guy /wink) who the fuck are you? Who the fuck am I!!! .. /e slowly slides away out of sight.

[Uggme]

It is a known fact that the accounts were banned for RMT activities, Verified by screenshots that were posted by Zeelot himself in this very forum (r&f).

A reasonable person would assume the punishments from staff were enacted with an adequate and justified level of certainty that RMT activities had taken place. Thus, why the account(s) were banned.

[Champion_Standing]

He gotta prove that he didn't RMT this is P99 guilty until proven innocent.

[Alarti0001]

It is a known fact that the accounts were banned for RMT activities, Verified by screenshots that were posted by Zeelot himself in this very forum (r&f).

A reasonable person would assume the punishments from staff were enacted with an adequate and justified level of certainty that RMT activities had taken place. Thus, why the account(s) were banned.

Why would a reasonable person assume that considering the constant overturn of bans and the constant overturn of gm's (for reasons unmentionable).

[Samaritan]

CTV was an awesome guild. The only other guild I loved as much as TMO. Long time no see!!

You ever hear from Siilvir or Brael? I miss those guys. Would love to get back in touch. They were legit.

Ahh, the uber SKs of CTV. Naw, I have seen a toon named Brael, but not sure if it was the real thing.

Just chatted with Quala and Zereh since I've been back on. Good times =)

[Seltius]

Just chatted with Quala and Zereh since I've been back on. Good times =)

Very cool if you don't mind me asking when were they on last? I have been trying to catch up with Quala since coming back in March and haven't seen him on.

[Uggme]

Why would a reasonable person assume that considering the constant overturn of bans and the constant overturn of gm's (for reasons unmentionable).

Ahh but see that's my point, those people provided additional evidence to prove thier innocence, and then were unbanned. That's exactly my point. If he's innocent, he should prove it. But why did it take so long to come forward with this incredible evidence? Why now? These are things the at l staff in sure are going to consider.

Zeelot, likely being one of the richest in game characters on the server was deemed guilty of RMT activities. If his account is unbanned the staff is risking resurgence of Massive RMT activities if they reverse their decision with due consideration.

And just like a lot of other high profile cases IRL, they also find themselves in the public eye, especially if the case have an impact on a lot of people. This one certainly would impact everyone on the server if the ban was reversed, seeing as how negative TMO's effect on the end gambeing.

In short, he should prove it :)

[kaev]

It is a known fact that the accounts were banned for RMT activities, Verified by screenshots that were posted by Zeelot himself in this very forum (r&f).

A reasonable person would assume the punishments from staff were enacted with an adequate and justified level of certainty that RMT activities had taken place. Thus, why the account(s) were banned.

Not a fan of Zeelot, but...

A knowledgeable person would be aware that P99 staff have been known to ban for suspicious transactions and later reverse the ban when evidence was produced that showed the transaction(s) as legit. If Zeelot has provided staff with sufficient evidence I'm sure his ban will be reversed also.

[Prismaticshop]

Guild bank is still 100% intact unless Derubael did something with it.

My character will be unbanned and so will Darkdeath's, as soon as the staff gather confidence to face the past mistakes.

Thanks for answering.

The second question was : you disbanded the guild you were leading without anyone's consent. What do you tell to people who are afraid you might pull this move a second time would you be in a leading position again?

[Uggme]

God I hate posting from my phone.

[Alarti0001]

Ahh but see that's my point, those people provided additional evidence to prove thier innocence, and then were unbanned. That's exactly my point. If he's innocent, he should prove it. But why did it take so long to come forward with this incredible evidence? Why now? These are things the at l staff in sure are going to consider.


See I stopped reading here. Why would you need to prove innocence. The onus of proof should be on the prosecution. You need to prove someone did something... not the other way around. Or I could just say... Uggme is committing RMT. You could get banned ... now prove you didn't do it?

[BulletCatcher]

See I stopped reading here. Why would you need to prove innocence. The onus of proof should be on the prosecution. You need to prove someone did something... not the other way around. Or I could just say... Uggme is committing RMT. You could get banned ... now prove you didn't do it?

LOL. those words you are using... I don't think they mean what you think they mean (in the context of P99).

The "onus" (or duty for us none learn-ed folk) of proof... LOL this is P99 my dawg, a privately ran server. not a fuckin American courtroom. You don't wanna have to deal with proving innocence? don't do shady shit. I don't do shay shit, and i'm not unjustly banned as if by accident.

The proof used to ban RMTers by staff is prob more than little whines and moans from players with nothing more than a /petition. Im sure they look into things more deeply then you or I know. But hey, they owe you an explanation right? Did you submit your appeal? I should have the freedom to dual box here. IM BEING OPRESSED... TRIGGER WARNINGS!!!! IM BEING RAPED!!!!

[Alarti0001]

LOL. those words you are using... I don't think they mean what you think they mean (in the context of P99).

The "onus" (or duty for us none learn-ed folk) of proof... LOL this is P99 my dawg, a privately ran server. not a fuckin American courtroom. You don't wanna have to deal with proving innocence? don't do shady shit. I don't do shay shit, and i'm not unjustly banned as if by accident.


Is paying platinum for an item shady shit? You are right there is no responsibility that the staff has to provide a fair system here, other than their stated purpose. If someone takes on the responsibility (as stated) of having a fair system do they have to live up to that? Seems like onus.

[BulletCatcher]

it would very easy to determine if an account paid plat for an item or not. Look at server logs. just takes some time. And you know the answer to that question. It is also the onus of the players to abide by the stated rules. Otherwise DayBreak may come here and fuck shit up if there is real $$$ flying around wihtout dev intervention. IP rights and all. So I say swing that fucking RMT ban hammer wide and fast. Let the recipients of said hammering argue their own innocence. like i said, people not doing shady shit wont get hit with the hammer. People know when they are being shady. "He dindn do nuffins.....!!" right? ppfftt yea right.

[Tasslehofp99]

I will publicly post the irrefutable evidence of bogus accusations if I am not unbanned and do not hear back by this weekend. I've only shared the screens with with staff so far, but they like to ignore reality it seems.

If they aren't going to reverse things even with screenshot evidence that shows their accusations are bogus, then it only looks bad on them.

Maybe they just don't like you?



Not a fan of Zeelot, but...

A knowledgeable person would be aware that P99 staff have been known to ban for suspicious transactions and later reverse the ban when evidence was produced that showed the transaction(s) as legit. If Zeelot has provided staff with sufficient evidence I'm sure his ban will be reversed also.



I'm sure having a TMO-sponsored stream for like a full year advertising a TMO-sponsored energy drink has nothing to do with it.

lol

[Alarti0001]

I'm sure having a TMO-sponsored stream for like a full year advertising a TMO-sponsored energy drink has nothing to do with it.

lol

W T F?

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/no-st-study-scientists-find-conspiracy-theorists-will-anything-other-conspiracy

[HeallunRumblebelly]

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!

BEGIN THE WITCH HUNT!

[Zeelot]

Thanks for answering.

The second question was : you disbanded the guild you were leading without anyone's consent. What do you tell to people who are afraid you might pull this move a second time would you be in a leading position again?

TMO was disbanded because of the situation at the time. Mainly because I felt that the guild was unreasonably punished and targeted for the actions 2 people who were regular members (Froovy & Internode). I told the guild that I would reform once unwarranted bans were reversed, but they went and reformed with FE because they did not want to wait. That's not my problem.

[Tasslehofp99]

W T F?

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/no-st-study-scientists-find-conspiracy-theorists-will-anything-other-conspiracy

LOL Haters gonna hate.
Hey Jay, thx for the free advertising, the energy drink is doing awesome, already in stores all around New York City & about to expand across the state. I'll be sending street teams of promotional models around the city this summer so be sure to follow us on facebook if you live in the New York City area.

Faz, so true! Hi fount, jer, loly, india, Seltius, cec,ele,alarti, xas & anyone I missed. Nice to see so many old names! Hit me up if your in New York this summer.


I would like to play EQ again but this is what the GMs told me, "the account was banned on 11-19-2014, 08:51 AM, in an RMT ban, by derubael."

I have never RMT'd. I have all the TMO loot I was listed as holding on the DKP still on my account. I run a business to make money. I play video games for fun & the competition of trying to be the best.

DD
http://wiki.project1999.com/Necromancer_Epic_Quest

Tiggles was advertising study-aid on his stream for a year atleast before froovygate. Maybe other people don't remember him saying that it was sponsored by TMO, but he did. Check out that website for Study-aid too, in the "About Us" section, some more dots to be connected! :cool:

lol not saying theres anything to it for sure but there might be! Even zealot himself doesn't know what RMT activity he was banned for. :cool:

[Alarti0001]

Tiggles was advertising study-aid on his stream for a year atleast before froovygate. Maybe other people don't remember him saying that it was sponsored by TMO, but he did. Check out that website for Study-aid too, in the "About Us" section, some more dots to be connected! :cool:

lol not saying theres anything to it for sure but there might be! Even zealot himself doesn't know what RMT activity he was banned for. :cool:

Please explain this relation? Because by your (logic) you could connect any two things together.

[Freakish]

I want Pussy Juice myself.

[BulletCatcher]

Juiced cats sound awful. I bey they taste bad too.

[Alarti0001]

Connection: Tiggles spouting off on his stream for over a year that StudyAid was sponsored by TMO. TMO and Studyaid are connected, or were, until zeelot got banned for unknown reasons (according to him.) Coincidence? Probably.

but really who cares? Its still funny to me thinking about these dudes starting a company using RMT cash from selling trakanon BPs for 3 years.

Obviously, I have no proof of any of this nor do I really give a shit if TMO's old core RMT'd and started an energy drink start up. But, I could probably go on making circumstantial connections between StudyAid and the "Old TMO" all day long if I really wanted.



PS if the offer for free studyaid is still on the table I live like 20 minutes from your guy's warehouse.

by your (logic) you could connect any two things together.

[Arteker]

Guild bank is still 100% intact unless Derubael did something with it.

My character will be unbanned and so will Darkdeath's, as soon as the staff gather confidence to face the past mistakes.

Fazlazen still waiting to see why derubael banned his mule account too:o

[slydexx]

http://youtu.be/lt-udg9zQSE

[Detoxx]

TMO was disbanded because of the situation at the time. Mainly because I felt that the guild was unreasonably punished and targeted for the actions 2 people who were regular members (Froovy & Internode). I told the guild that I would reform once unwarranted bans were reversed, but they went and reformed with FE because they did not want to wait. That's not my problem.

To be fair, we reformed and chugged along until FE allowed IB to start raiding with them. It was something like 50 FE and 10 IB in the beginning, as they had formed an alliance. They were wooping ass for a bit, and typical IB arrogance when discussing their merger pushed FE to us.

On a real note, if this was you, would you not take a 60 man raid force ready to go in VP? Any time you can take something from your enemies (IB has always been the guild I hated most, and I think you can relate to that) and use it as gain is a win win to me. We were dying, and if FE had merged with IB at that time, there would probably not be TMO right now. Although i'm pretty sure thats what you want, thats not what the people who continued on after your departure wanted.

[charlie_murphy]

As an outsider looking in (class r peon),

I think this server could use a good influx of top notch raider people. From what i read in the guild threads, its kinda one sided as to who kills the dragons and stuff. i dont know if the rotation will hold if it gets locked down like that again.

It would be disappointing if all of tmo went to red like i've heard, since rampage would have velious uncontested unlesss a few of the larger r guilds teamed up to take them down.

[quido]

Who wants to play under shit rules where literally everything you do gets you petitioned?

[quido]

They've stifled innovative players with the endless rules. It's dumb.

[reborn649]

Who wants to play under shit rules where literally everything you do gets you petitioned?

Best thing they could do is give a wipe to raid rules along with velious. At least give the player base a few months of raiding with zero GM intervention to see how it plays out. More mobs would mean zero reason for class system and also less raid issues with the current 2 top guilds since they won't interact "quite" as much. You know...make the server classic again...crazy thought, I know.

[charlie_murphy]

They've stifled innovative players with the endless rules. It's dumb.

like what?

[quido]

One example would be people shadow-stepping in VP to have a chance at a quicker FTE; this is no longer allowed. You can't even use bard speed in VP to get the engage. I'm sure there's more.

[ArumTP]

Jeremy mad he can't train people.

[quido]

Would rather PvP them now anyways, but yeah, look at how much fun things in VP are now!!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

this zeelot sounds like he's cast VoG on himself too many times.

[Godefroi]

To be fair, we reformed and chugged along until FE allowed IB to start raiding with them. It was something like 50 FE and 10 IB in the beginning, as they had formed an alliance. They were wooping ass for a bit, and typical IB arrogance when discussing their merger pushed FE to us.

On a real note, if this was you, would you not take a 60 man raid force ready to go in VP? Any time you can take something from your enemies (IB has always been the guild I hated most, and I think you can relate to that) and use it as gain is a win win to me. We were dying, and if FE had merged with IB at that time, there would probably not be TMO right now. Although i'm pretty sure thats what you want, thats not what the people who continued on after your departure wanted.

QFT

[Llodd]

this zeelot sounds like he's cast VoG on himself too many times.

Hehe aye. Not sure the threats to staff is going to go down too well either.

[falkun]

Best thing they could do is give a wipe to raid rules along with velious. At least give the player base a few months of raiding with zero GM intervention to see how it plays out. More mobs would mean zero reason for class system and also less raid issues with the current 2 top guilds since they won't interact "quite" as much. You know...make the server classic again...crazy thought, I know.

There was a bunch of CSR posts on raid rules for Velious, but I can't find them right now. Basically, expect FTE > all and all (Velious) mobs to be FFA. I can't speak to how Kunark/Vanilla mobs will be treated, except to say that planar mobs will DEFINITELY be FFA after they get revamped (Inny/CT 2.0).

[Tiggles]

Solo many old TMO playing again it's fantastic.

Also Cecily doing work last night I'm seb


Lot ofus should be 60 by Monday.

PS. Dudeisbeast I got you a weapon, Loly has it.

[Tiggles]

Solo many old TMO playing again it's fantastic.

Also Cecily doing work last night I'm seb


Lot ofus should be 60 by Monday.

PS. Dudeisbeast I got you a weapon, Loly has it.

Jesus I can't type on this thing.

[Swish]

You all look like a bunch of ill tempered sea bass to me lately.

[Tiggles]

You all look like a bunch of ill tempered sea bass to me lately.

Get 60 on red yet?

TMO needs an official gif maker.

PST for recruitment packages.

[Seltius]

You all look like a bunch of ill tempered sea bass to me lately.

Swish I love you. Keep up the Red lessons Number 4 was great I have watched that cat for like 10mins laughing.(Its the little things huh)

[reborn649]

There was a bunch of CSR posts on raid rules for Velious, but I can't find them right now. Basically, expect FTE > all and all (Velious) mobs to be FFA. I can't speak to how Kunark/Vanilla mobs will be treated, except to say that planar mobs will DEFINITELY be FFA after they get revamped (Inny/CT 2.0).

Just because stuff will be FFA (which hopefully goes for kunark and classic as well) doesn't mean the current set of rules wont cause frapsquest/lawyerquest/etc... To eliminate that, the staff would have to wipe 90% of the rules clean and let the community be classic and sort their own issues out again. Give it a few months and see how it goes. Were gonna be stuck in Velious for the next decade, so what is it going to hurt.

[Fael]

When the leader of rampage is friends with the lead rule maker and can get him to unilaterally change the rules to suit his situation as we go, you start to realize that the game is rigged.

[arsenalpow]

When the leader of rampage is friends with the lead rule maker and can get him to unilaterally change the rules to suit his situation as we go, you start to realize that the game is rigged.

Oh now this bias upsets you??? How about Tiggles e-fucking Amelinda for TMO's benefit? Alarti always bangs the drum of "TMO had the least amount in the ban wave" which was probably a tip off from Amelinda due to her bias. Or Unbrella having Derubael on his cell for immediate attention?

Whether the bias exists or not is debatable, but the air of impropriety is definitely a thing when going on Sirken's stream is going to make it more likely that he'll address whatever stupid PetitionQuest bullshit that's going on.

There's a reason I don't go on the stream, there's a reason I've told my officers not to go on it (a few went anyways despite my protests) I want fair and unbiased rules with clear infractions and penalties for those infractions, and hanging out with the judge/jury taints things.

[Jfertal]

When the leader of rampage is friends with the lead rule maker and can get him to unilaterally change the rules to suit his situation as we go, you start to realize that the game is rigged.

woah bro! here comes the wave of posts from gay ass detoxx and alarti. Lazie finally stopped posting, thank god.

[Jfertal]

wtf why cant i quote chests dumb fucking post?? You piece of shit nerd. only allows me to quote his quote from dolic, fuck these forums, you fucking losers.

[Jfertal]

fuck im drunk still i figured it out

[Alarti0001]

Oh now this bias upsets you??? How about Tiggles e-fucking Amelinda for TMO's benefit? Alarti always bangs the drum of "TMO had the least amount in the ban wave" which was probably a tip off from Amelinda due to her bias. Or Unbrella having Derubael on his cell for immediate attention?

Whether the bias exists or not is debatable, but the air of impropriety is definitely a thing when going on Sirken's stream is going to make it more likely that he'll address whatever stupid PetitionQuest bullshit that's going on.

There's a reason I don't go on the stream, there's a reason I've told my officers not to go on it (a few went anyways despite my protests) I want fair and unbiased rules with clear infractions and penalties for those infractions, and hanging out with the judge/jury taints things.

Amelinda wasn't to anyones real benefit she suspended us multiple times when we shouldn't have been. She just didn't understand game mechanics at the same time there was BDA GM providing favoritism to BDA, and doing everything in his power to screw TMO. Hi Bisch.
Don't forget BDA's other guilded GM (who was actually pretty fair) To be fair everyone had deru on their cell in both competing guilds everyone had deru and sirken on skype.

The problem isn't that GuildA or GuildB has favoritism. The problem is that the system is set up to allow favoritism to happen and to even promote it at times. There also doesn't seem to be standard of punishment as Guild A will get different punishments for Guild B. It's a mess that could be fixed immediately by making all raid petitions public.
I wonder why this hasn't happened yet? Who in their right mind wouldn't be for this?

[arsenalpow]

Oh now this bias upsets you??? How about Tiggles e-fucking Amelinda for TMO's benefit? Alarti always bangs the drum of "TMO had the least amount in the ban wave" which was probably a tip off from Amelinda due to her bias. Or Unbrella having Derubael on his cell for immediate attention?

Whether the bias exists or not is debatable, but the air of impropriety is definitely a thing when going on Sirken's stream is going to make it more likely that he'll address whatever stupid PetitionQuest bullshit that's going on.

There's a reason I don't go on the stream, there's a reason I've told my officers not to go on it (a few went anyways despite my protests) I want fair and unbiased rules with clear infractions and penalties for those infractions, and hanging out with the judge/jury taints things.

Additional points of bias as I remember them. The new rule was FTE IS ALL THAT MATTERS, Scorchin (FE) gets FTE on Cazic, TMO does all the leg work, loot awarded to TMO because FE didn't engage after their FTE and why would they if TMO was doing it for them.

In the old "no CSR" VP Adriana was suspended for a week by Amelinda for being at PD and dropping a stalking probe into the wall warping it to the entrance. This ruling is what banned that practice when it was SOP to start your coth chain in Sebilis down to Trak's Lair. Days later we watch Sentenza glitch through a locked door using his AoN, that was deemed perfectly acceptable.

[arsenalpow]

Public raid petitions will just turn into a fuxking popularity contest. It's pointless.

If we want transparency it's easy. Create a list of infractions and corresponding punishments. Give examples of precedent to justify how the infraction is determined and punished.

[Alarti0001]

Additional points of bias as I remember them. The new rule was FTE IS ALL THAT MATTERS, Scorchin (FE) gets FTE on Cazic, TMO does all the leg work, loot awarded to TMO because FE didn't engage after their FTE and why would they if TMO was doing it for them.

In the old "no CSR" VP Adriana was suspended for a week by Amelinda for being at PD and dropping a stalking probe into the wall warping it to the entrance. This ruling is what banned that practice when it was SOP to start your coth chain in Sebilis down to Trak's Lair. Days later we watch Sentenza glitch through a locked door using his AoN, that was deemed perfectly acceptable.

See you confuse bias with ignorance. She had no place making raid rulings. Don't think she even leveled a character past 30

[Alarti0001]

Public raid petitions will just turn into a fuxking popularity contest. It's pointless.

If we want transparency it's easy. Create a list of infractions and corresponding punishments. Give examples of precedent to justify how the infraction is determined and punished.

Needs to be public. That is the check and balance. The public doesn't make the ruling.

[arsenalpow]

Needs to be public. That is the check and balance. The public doesn't make the ruling.

No, but the public turns it into a shitshow which isn't needed. A check and balance exists when one party can affect the other. The public has no say in the matter, as you've already explained, so there isn't a check and balance, it only create an illusion of transparency.

[Alarti0001]

No, but the public turns it into a shitshow which isn't needed. A check and balance exists when one party can affect the other. The public has no say in the matter, as you've already explained, so there isn't a check and balance, it only create an illusion of transparency.

It would only be a shitshow if something uncommon happened or if favoritism was shown. Outcry could force a fix to the rules or it might not.. either way at least the public would know.

How many people would p99 lose if clear favoritism was shown to the public repeatedly?
Not an illusion at all

[Frieza_Prexus]

Public raid petitions will just turn into a fuxking popularity contest. It's pointless.

The public petition proposal is coupled with a formal procedure outline. Submission, rebuttal, and ruling are all single occurrences that happen before the public has a chance to truly react. The record is public to provide accountability, transparency, and precedent.

Popularity contests are no more likely under that scheme than anything else.

[Fael]

I don't necessarily disagree with you chest. This stuff ain't my problem anymore. I voted with my feet, not like anyone cares. The game is just more fun on red right now.

[Champion_Standing]

http://levittownnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Autism-Speaks-Logo.jpg

[Alarti0001]

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^

Signs of autism: having to communicate non-verbally.

[Tiggles]

I don't necessarily disagree with you chest. This stuff ain't my problem anymore. I voted with my feet, not like anyone cares. The game is just more fun on red right now.


Pras red.

[Champion_Standing]

Signs of autism: having to communicate non-verbally.

^

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[DeathWalking]

How many people would p99 lose if clear favoritism was shown to the public repeatedly?
Not an illusion at all

apparently very few, since clear favoritism is repeatedly shown to the public

[Tiggles]

apparently very few, since clear favoritism is repeatedly shown to the public


Proof?

[DeathWalking]

youre here, arent you?

[Tiggles]

youre here, arent you?

I think you need another break.

[Alarti0001]

I think you need another break.

[Detoxx]

woah bro! here comes the wave of posts from gay ass detoxx and alarti. Lazie finally stopped posting, thank god.

Fuck you, you lush.

[Uggme]

24 hours later and Zeelot has not posted his supposed "irrefutable evidence" to overturn his RMT ban. In beginning to doubt it's existence and it's authenticity.

Also, if TMO is forming on red then that's just fine with me. There they can get corpse camped all day for all I care.

[Ambrotos]

Amelinda wasn't to anyones real benefit she suspended us multiple times when we shouldn't have been. She just didn't understand game mechanics at the same time there was BDA GM providing favoritism to BDA, and doing everything in his power to screw TMO. Hi Bisch.
Don't forget BDA's other guilded GM (who was actually pretty fair) To be fair everyone had deru on their cell in both competing guilds everyone had deru and sirken on skype.

The problem isn't that GuildA or GuildB has favoritism. The problem is that the system is set up to allow favoritism to happen and to even promote it at times. There also doesn't seem to be standard of punishment as Guild A will get different punishments for Guild B. It's a mess that could be fixed immediately by making all raid petitions public.
I wonder why this hasn't happened yet? Who in their right mind wouldn't be for this?

I see you haven't changed at all with being wrong about everything. Keep riding that coattail of better eq players. Maybe at the 20 year mark you will finally be the best at a video game you failed at in your teens.

[DeathWalking]

I think you need another break.

im sure you could call your buddy sirken up and get him to ban me if youre really that worried about me. dont forget to cup the balls. that'll definitely prove there isnt any preferential treatment.

[Seltius]

24 hours later and Zeelot has not posted his supposed "irrefutable evidence" to overturn his RMT ban. In beginning to doubt it's existence and it's authenticity.

Also, if TMO is forming on red then that's just fine with me. There they can get corpse camped all day for all I care.

This confuses me since when does someone have to win in the court of public opinion to be exonerated from being wrongfully accused? If he provides proof to the GMs/Admins why would he need to prove it to you? Who are you to have a say in this? If that were the case no one would ever be found not guilty because there would always be some moron who saw a conspiracy in tea leaves and knows they did it.

Oh and I call you a moron in the nicest possible way.

[Uggme]

Well first Zeelot said he would post it publicly if the staff does not overturn the ban. So he's the one bringing all this to the lime light. I'm just over here wondering "why wait?"

If this evidence is so strong why hasn't he shared it? Wouldn't getting some public on your side maybe help? Plus Zeelot had a fairly shit due to the stunts he pulled. Wouldn't posting it help?

Other questions too: why did it take nearly 2 years to produce this evidence? Why is Zeelot wanting access to his riches now, mere months before a known release date for velious? Why did Zeelot delete all his EQ data when he "quit"?

If it were me looking at it, the threat of possible future RMT activities would need to be exactly 0 for me to reverse the ban. There would have to be assurances that RMT activities did not, and will not ever happen.

I bet he's glad I'm not the one investigating this.

[Alarti0001]

I see you haven't changed at all with being wrong about everything. Keep riding that coattail of better eq players. Maybe at the 20 year mark you will finally be the best at a video game you failed at in your teens.

Lol not sure why I would care about being a great player in EQ. I play a wizard well.. not exactly a tough skill check though. I'm very secure in the fact that I am probably not the best video game player in any video game I've ever played.

Wasn't is Bisch who stopped a Trakanon engage so BDA could finally kill a mob right before he ghosted?

Maybe one day you will be able to separate your pride from this game and have a real adult life.

More likely you will continue to get leadership positions in games/guilds so you can try to get attention from females with promises of loots.

Maybe you can try to convince another internet girl to not get married cause you like her more.

[Alarti0001]

Well first Zeelot said he would post it publicly if the staff does not overturn the ban. So he's the one bringing all this to the lime light. I'm just over here wondering "why wait?"

If this evidence is so strong why hasn't he shared it? Wouldn't getting some public on your side maybe help? Plus Zeelot had a fairly shit due to the stunts he pulled. Wouldn't posting it help?

Other questions too: why did it take nearly 2 years to produce this evidence? Why is Zeelot wanting access to his riches now, mere months before a known release date for velious? Why did Zeelot delete all his EQ data when he "quit"?

If it were me looking at it, the threat of possible future RMT activities would need to be exactly 0 for me to reverse the ban. There would have to be assurances that RMT activities did not, and will not ever happen.

I bet he's glad I'm not the one investigating this.

You are making huge leaps here. Its kind of hilarious. Look at the if....then statements.

[Uggme]

You are making huge leaps here. Its kind of hilarious. Look at the if....then statements.

You mean the whole *1* if/then paragraph where I talk about what I would do if I were investigating? I guess its kinda funny?

Might want to work on your reading comprehension friend.

[Seltius]

Well first Zeelot said he would post it publicly if the staff does not overturn the ban. So he's the one bringing all this to the lime light. I'm just over here wondering "why wait?"

If this evidence is so strong why hasn't he shared it? Wouldn't getting some public on your side maybe help? Plus Zeelot had a fairly shit due to the stunts he pulled. Wouldn't posting it help?

Other questions too: why did it take nearly 2 years to produce this evidence? Why is Zeelot wanting access to his riches now, mere months before a known release date for velious? Why did Zeelot delete all his EQ data when he "quit"?

If it were me looking at it, the threat of possible future RMT activities would need to be exactly 0 for me to reverse the ban. There would have to be assurances that RMT activities did not, and will not ever happen.

I bet he's glad I'm not the one investigating this.


Wtf are you counting time in dog years? TMO was disbanded in what December 2013 or around that? Zeelot quit at that time and at the least was taking a break until Velious at the most was done with the game completely. Why would he have reason to think to check to see if his characters were banned or not? You may lay awake at night wondering what your toons are doing in video games when your not there but a normal person doesn't worry about things like that. If he knew he was banned then at that time he probably figured he didn't have any reason to come back and so didn't worry about it.

Maybe he needed more room for porn or just didn't feel like keeping a program on his computer that he probably wouldn't use again. Who knows is that what your basing your charges on?

At the end of the day who the hell do you think you are demanding anyone provide you proof of anything. Why should he care what you think?


I bet society is glad your not the one with any authority to investigate or do anything. I could see the torches and pitchfork squad now with you at the head.

[Uggme]

I bet society is glad your not the one with any authority to investigate or do anything. I could see the torches and pitchfork squad now with you at the head.

Do you speak for Zeelot? Are those his stories? Or are you just speculating. I'm guessing it's the latter.

Feel free to white knight him all you like, I guess. What your say, however, means absolutely nothing. Zeelot is the one who wants to clear his name. I'm pretty sure he had his own fingers to your with. He can defend himself.

And again, Zeelot was an influential player on P99. His guild dominated the raid scene for years. If he was, in fact, RMTing that affects everyone on the server. EVERYONE. We want this servers rules to be followed and for the server to survive. If Zeelots actions threatened that, then it becomes the business if everyone that plays to know what's going on.

Zeelot has offered to show us his evidence exonerating him of his accusation and punishment. Show it. Prove to the server you were falsely accused.

Also, you have no idea what I do in society. Rest assured, investigating complex issues with liars involved is something I do every day.

[Alarti0001]

Zeelot has offered to show us his evidence exonerating him of his accusation and punishment. Show it. Prove to the server you were falsely accused.



If...then

[Uggme]

If...then

I will publicly post the irrefutable evidence of bogus accusations if I am not unbanned and do not hear back by this weekend. I've only shared the screens with with staff so far, but they like to ignore reality it seems.

If they aren't going to reverse things even with screenshot evidence that shows their accusations are bogus, then it only looks bad on them.

Statement of fact.

[Alarti0001]

Statement of fact.

You are still missing it. Might want to re-read that statement by zeelot.

[Seltius]

Do you speak for Zeelot? Are those his stories? Or are you just speculating. I'm guessing it's the latter.

Feel free to white knight him all you like, I guess. What your say, however, means absolutely nothing. Zeelot is the one who wants to clear his name. I'm pretty sure he had his own fingers to your with. He can defend himself.

And again, Zeelot was an influential player on P99. His guild dominated the raid scene for years. If he was, in fact, RMTing that affects everyone on the server. EVERYONE. We want this servers rules to be followed and for the server to survive. If Zeelots actions threatened that, then it becomes the business if everyone that plays to know what's going on.

Zeelot has offered to show us his evidence exonerating him of his accusation and punishment. Show it. Prove to the server you were falsely accused.

Also, you have no idea what I do in society. Rest assured, investigating complex issues with liars involved is something I do every day.

Oh I am not white knighting anyone No one in this thread is a white knight or innocent of any wrong doing. I am just pointing out timeline flaws in your argument and also the fact that if you had your way whether he was innocent or not you would be burning him and anyone else you think is guilty of something at the stake. You are making baseless accusations that you insist are based in fact. But the flaw of it as you point out is that he didn't immediately check his account after it was banned and start ranting about it and throwing proof at the hungry masses here for more drama to feed you and your family.

I figure there are so many here attacking him that at least some of us should step in and if not defend him at least point out the mental handicap in your argument. You are letting your dislike for him cloud the fact that the reasons you are using to make him guilty make no sense. You say 2 years but TMO didn't disband 2 years ago. You say he should have immediately raged and posted more fodder for you to throw in his face or use against the GMs. But why should he bother when he may not have been returning? Where in these forums or the rules of the server does it say someone has to prove to the masses that they are innocent and the GMs will follow? Your logic and facts are skewed at every turn designed to force Zeelot to prove to YOU he is innocent. WTF are you?(Don't really care that was rhetorical)




Oh and if this is your idea of investigative and dealing with liars then I would hate to see you with any real authority. Or the innocent people that you abuse in trying to prove they did something wrong. Believe me I cared about as much about your rl as I do about you running around with torches and pitchforks. Meaning absolutely none.

In closing I am going to tell you something that may come as a surprise to you.

Zeelot is a friend and so yes when I see some moron trying to beat him with a phone book in here to get him to admit he did something he didn't do I get a little annoyed and defend him. As I would do for any friend.

/popcorn

Please continue

[Uggme]

You seriously have bad eyes. You must only be able to see every other word I've posted. I know he said he was going to wait.

Ive been saying "why wait" this entire time. Seriously, learn to read.

[Ambrotos]

Lol not sure why I would care about being a great player in EQ. I play a wizard well.. not exactly a tough skill check though. I'm very secure in the fact that I am probably not the best video game player in any video game I've ever played.

Wasn't is Bisch who stopped a Trakanon engage so BDA could finally kill a mob right before he ghosted?

Maybe one day you will be able to separate your pride from this game and have a real adult life.

More likely you will continue to get leadership positions in games/guilds so you can try to get attention from females with promises of loots.

Maybe you can try to convince another internet girl to not get married cause you like her more.

Nope. It was Ambrotos who gave BDA the chance to engage Trakanon fairly after being trained by Jeremy. This was after 2 hours of texting/irc/skyping to Rogean and Siken to deal with the matter. Unlike Sirken, I believe if the party acting against the rules of the server they shouldn't have any chance at all at the current raid target. Not just be suspended for the next one. So thus I did ruled how I did. Sirken supported me in this. And ghosting? If being deployed and still working in the ability to at least handle petitions on the website, then yes, I sure did.

Let me clear this up for you. Bisch being in BDA for all of a week, was just like the different toons the staff had implanted in different guilds. You cold say IB/BDA also could say I was favoring tmo since I was guilded there also? I had been tagged and have access to vent so I could catch Sloan drunkenly ramble on about him RMTing Fungi Tunics in vent. Only to be told later vent conversations isn't proof enough to ban said person. You would know a little something about RMT activity and blaming others and that you had no idea your items/account was used for RMT.

Keep grasping. You of all people telling someone to separate their pride from this game is unreal. You breath, drink, and shit p99. I am pretty sure this outlet in your life is all you have at all. Then again it takes a special person who asks for IP exemption requests for wives/fiancé that they don't even have so you can two box.

I seriously hope one day you will learn to move on and stop trying to relive your childhood. You are missing out on so much in the real world. 40 is creeping up on you, time to do something.

[Champion_Standing]

Lol /popcorn after 3 paragraph rant, sorry kiddo...you're the entertainment here.

[quido]

Ambrotos just admitted to changing the status quo on his last day of corrupt GMing. I really doubt he conversed with Rogean or Sirken on this day as he is a known liar and degenerate bitch.

[Alarti0001]

Nope. It was Ambrotos who gave BDA the chance to engage Trakanon fairly after being trained by Jeremy. This was after 2 hours of texting/irc/skyping to Rogean and Siken to deal with the matter. Unlike Sirken, I believe if the party acting against the rules of the server they shouldn't have any chance at all at the current raid target. Not just be suspended for the next one. So thus I did ruled how I did. Sirken supported me in this. And ghosting? If being deployed and still working in the ability to at least handle petitions on the website, then yes, I sure did.

Let me clear this up for you. Bisch being in BDA for all of a week, was just like the different toons the staff had implanted in different guilds. You cold say IB/BDA also could say I was favoring tmo since I was guilded there also? I had been tagged and have access to vent so I could catch Sloan drunkenly ramble on about him RMTing Fungi Tunics in vent. Only to be told later vent conversations isn't proof enough to ban said person. You would know a little something about RMT activity and blaming others and that you had no idea your items/account was used for RMT.

Keep grasping. You of all people telling someone to separate their pride from this game is unreal. You breath, drink, and shit p99. I am pretty sure this outlet in your life is all you have at all. Then again it takes a special person who asks for IP exemption requests for wives/fiancé that they don't even have so you can two box.

I seriously hope one day you will learn to move on and stop trying to relive your childhood. You are missing out on so much in the real world. 40 is creeping up on you, time to do something.

Lol /popcorn after 3 paragraph rant, sorry kiddo...you're the entertainment here.

Bisch just admitted to changing the status quo on his last day of corrupt GMing. I really doubt he conversed with Rogean or Sirken on this day as he is a known liar and degenerate bitch.

GUYS I DONT CARE..... 3 paragraphs of vitriol later.....Bisch has ranted in every guild he has been a part of about his hatred for TMO. Find your sanity kiddo.

[BulletCatcher]

An ultimatum for the devs to unban or else document dump. ? Why not show docs now like said he would? What's the diff between now and then. Fuck RMT. Jeep em banned for ever.

[Triangle]

What a putrid fucking thread. First we have a whole bunch of reach arounds going on from old TMO members who came out of the wood work. Then they find out they are all banned, what a fucking surprise that is.

Ambrotos with the slam dunk post. Then Manboobs tries to call him out for not letting the guild that did the training (TMO) kill trakanon.

BTW Jeremy, do your red pals know you lost in BOTB to me, a shammy without even a BCG, when you had crown of rile, lustrous boots and all other BIS gear?

The fact that you even post anymore is disgusting after that packets of death thread lol. Peace!!!

[Champion_Standing]

GUYS I DONT CARE..... 3 paragraphs of vitriol later.....Bisch has ranted in every guild he has been a part of about his hatred for TMO. Find your sanity kiddo.

Yeah yeah, admit it...you care...a lot

[slydexx]

Well I think we all can agree that the new Tmo era is off to an amazing start right?

[Detoxx]

What a putrid fucking thread. First we have a whole bunch of reach arounds going on from old TMO members who came out of the wood work. Then they find out they are all banned, what a fucking surprise that is.

Ambrotos with the slam dunk post. Then Manboobs tries to call him out for not letting the guild that did the training (TMO) kill trakanon.

BTW Jeremy, do your red pals know you lost in BOTB to me, a shammy without even a BCG, when you had crown of rile, lustrous boots and all other BIS gear?

The fact that you even post anymore is disgusting after that packets of death thread lol. Peace!!!

Cause clearly the best way to judge the skills of a player on a PvE server is bracketed PvP.

[quido]

Svenn the MQer really proud of a bullshit botb win where my dispells were dispelling GM snare because of backwards rules that changed match to match.

[Triangle]

We both had he same rules bro. Part of being good at pvp is adapting to changes quickly. If you knew how to stack buffs my dispel would've done the same thing. You prob had snare on bottom slot tho...

[quido]

I'm a master of buffs - the fact that Ambrotos was randomly resnaring people after it was dispelled was absurd. The fact that they arbitrarily decided to disallow cannibalize in the match right after I made an offensive push and blew my mana was retarded. I'm totally fine with how it all turned out, but you acting like winning that match was actually a feat of skill and not just dumb luck is just the sort of retardation we've all come to expect from you.

Come to red again, Svenn, if you dare. We all know you can't hang.

[tortue ninja]

Lol Svenn claiming he is good at this game?

[Triangle]

just a fluke huh.
I should take this opportunity to set the red server straight.

Jeremy is not a good shaman. You may get the impression that he is a big shot on blue, or was. This was never the case. Everything he gained over there was through immense, unprecedented amount of poopsocking. He would spend days at a time at fungi camp. He was a member of the biggest poopsocking guild on the server. In return for devoting his life to the game he amassed tons of plat and huge man tits.


I may not be on a pvp server but you only need to look through the solo artist challenge post to realize that the fact that I beat him had nothing to do with luck.

I play about 3 hours a week if I'm lucky. I'm afraid I have no time to join you over there.

[JayN]

I'm a master of buffs - the fact that Ambrotos was randomly resnaring people after it was dispelled was absurd. The fact that they arbitrarily decided to disallow cannibalize in the match right after I made an offensive push and blew my mana was retarded. I'm totally fine with how it all turned out, but you acting like winning that match was actually a feat of skill and not just dumb luck is just the sort of retardation we've all come to expect from you.

Come to red again, Svenn, if you dare. We all know you can't hang.

The tears, they are so so salty

[Triangle]

Headed out for the night. Praise nilbog. Hope you keep the neck beards stay banned for being a plague on the server.

[Prismaticshop]

Lol jeremy trying his best itt

[Prismaticshop]

Keep grasping. You of all people telling someone to separate their pride from this game is unreal. You breath, drink, and shit p99. I am pretty sure this outlet in your life is all you have at all. Then again it takes a special person who asks for IP exemption requests for wives/fiancé that they don't even have so you can two box.



Rofl.

Did he ?

Mind blown

[quido]

Listen to the guy who got fired from the staff for being a scumbag lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NvgLkuEtkA

[Ella`Ella]

I can't wait to quit this server and write my memoir...

[Fael]

Anyone who can't figure out what happened lacks the most basic of imaginations. The information required is all out there on the public forum already.

[Darkdeathx]

I signed up today & I'll be around on the live chat later tonight! Looking forward to catching up with everyone on the new site!!



DD
www.themysticalorder.net

[sulpher01]

So if they don't unban you guys are you going to create new chars?

[Swish]

just a fluke huh.
I should take this opportunity to set the red server straight.

Jeremy is not a good shaman. You may get the impression that he is a big shot on blue, or was. This was never the case. Everything he gained over there was through immense, unprecedented amount of poopsocking. He would spend days at a time at fungi camp. He was a member of the biggest poopsocking guild on the server. In return for devoting his life to the game he amassed tons of plat and huge man tits.


I may not be on a pvp server but you only need to look through the solo artist challenge post to realize that the fact that I beat him had nothing to do with luck.

I play about 3 hours a week if I'm lucky. I'm afraid I have no time to join you over there.

He healed me last week, I was grateful. Sign of a goog shaman if you ask me.

[Mockba1980]

TMO is back. Find us at our old domain at www.themysticalorder.net.

We are starting fresh, have a new layout, and a live Web chat that everyone is free to join.

For those who were TMO members while we played on P99, if you are interested in joining back up on the forums please send me a PM on this forum(p99 forums), confirming the name you registered with on our forum.

Feel free to join and hang out on our member forum or live Web chat.

Forum layout is still being finalized so expect a few more changes as we go.

For those who are part of FE(the guild they currently also call TMO), some of you may be welcome in the future as well. These decisions will happen once the TMO core is organized.

People may be wondering what our plans are. All I can say now is, time will tell.

Regards,

Woot ! The true TMO is coming back $$$$$$

[Zadrian]

http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/malibu.jpg

Speaking of Malibu, my wife went thrift shopping yesterday and bought me a complete Dragon Strike set.

http://www.hmtk.com/wp-content/uploads/dragonstrikebox.jpg

Malibu played the warrior in the VHS that comes with the game.

http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic897659_md.jpg

[quido]

wot m8?

[smokemon]

DERP.

[Tiggles]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196205


Apply today

[Uggme]

So, no evidence. Was Zeelot unbanned?

[Champion_Standing]

So, no evidence. Was Zeelot unbanned?

he's uploading all 28,000 hours of footage recorded of him playing EQ as proof, gonna take the staff a long as time to watch all that poopsocking.

[Utmost]

Speaking of Malibu, my wife went thrift shopping yesterday and bought me a complete Dragon Strike set.

http://www.hmtk.com/wp-content/uploads/dragonstrikebox.jpg

Malibu played the warrior in the VHS that comes with the game.

http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic897659_md.jpg

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Dragon-Strike-Board-Game-from-the-Makers-of-Dungeons-Dragons-/171452371722?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27eb5b930a

Turning that around for $240!? How much did she pay?

[k2summit]

Oh I am not white knighting anyone No one in this thread is a white knight or innocent of any wrong doing. I am just pointing out timeline flaws in your argument and also the fact that if you had your way whether he was innocent or not you would be burning him and anyone else you think is guilty of something at the stake. You are making baseless accusations that you insist are based in fact. But the flaw of it as you point out is that he didn't immediately check his account after it was banned and start ranting about it and throwing proof at the hungry masses here for more drama to feed you and your family.

I figure there are so many here attacking him that at least some of us should step in and if not defend him at least point out the mental handicap in your argument. You are letting your dislike for him cloud the fact that the reasons you are using to make him guilty make no sense. You say 2 years but TMO didn't disband 2 years ago. You say he should have immediately raged and posted more fodder for you to throw in his face or use against the GMs. But why should he bother when he may not have been returning? Where in these forums or the rules of the server does it say someone has to prove to the masses that they are innocent and the GMs will follow? Your logic and facts are skewed at every turn designed to force Zeelot to prove to YOU he is innocent. WTF are you?(Don't really care that was rhetorical)




Oh and if this is your idea of investigative and dealing with liars then I would hate to see you with any real authority. Or the innocent people that you abuse in trying to prove they did something wrong. Believe me I cared about as much about your rl as I do about you running around with torches and pitchforks. Meaning absolutely none.

In closing I am going to tell you something that may come as a surprise to you.

Zeelot is a friend and so yes when I see some moron trying to beat him with a phone book in here to get him to admit he did something he didn't do I get a little annoyed and defend him. As I would do for any friend.

/popcorn

Please continue

Wot m8?

[Zeelot]

So, no evidence. Was Zeelot unbanned?

Got the GM response I was looking for so no need. Yes I will be unbanned. Confirmed by Sirken.

[Uggme]

Got the GM response I was looking for so no need. Yes I will be unbanned. Confirmed by Sirken.

Interesting. Here's hoping the reintroduction of your resources don't destabilize the market too much.

Congrats on winning your appeal. It still would have been nice to see the evidence ourselves. Would likely go a long way towards repairing your reputation as an accused RMT'er. Though, considering how you ran TMO, I'm fairly sure you don't care all that much about what others think

[quido]

How would you know the evidence he posted was even related to why he was actually locked? What a dumb request.

[Uggme]

How would you know the evidence he posted was even related to why he was actually locked? What a dumb request.

Uhhhh.... He was banned fo RMT related activities or evidence thereof. To get that overturned he'd need to show that his transactions were not RMT related. Pretty simple. If you think hard enough, maybe you'll understand some day.

He apparently did all this to obtain his unbanning. That's great and all, but most of there server still thinks he's a cheat from all the bad press in the past. Presenting the evidence here could help his rep.

And, genius, he said he would show us if the staff dragged thier feet. I've only said that now a half dozen times.

The only thing dumb here is your response.

[quido]

You still haven't answered my question. He could be posting evidence of a legitimate trade while saying nothing about a hundred other RMT transactions, and you would be none the wiser. You're required to take him at his word either way since the staff won't be posting about any of it. At least until he's unlocked.

ya moran

[Fael]

Wtf are you smoking man. Learn to read.

zeelot purchased two fungi staffs with TMO funds and gave them to tortue and alpha as a reward.

His account was suspended because he purchased received the item on zeelot but paid for them with funds from a TMO bank account two minutes later. It was bull shit ban by derubael and will be overturned.

As an aside, eventually the A Team member who sold the staff for in game plat ultimately RMT'd and made a post about it on the forums about a year ago. I think he made a few thousand dollars or something.

[Uggme]

You still haven't answered my question. He could be posting evidence of a legitimate trade while saying nothing about a hundred other RMT transactions, and you would be none the wiser. You're required to take him at his word either way since the staff won't be posting about any of it. At least until he's unlocked.

ya moran

So, you're saying I should expect that your guild leader will post false evidence? Or should anticipate he will attempt to hide so-called 'dirty' transactions?

Interesting take, Jeremy. Not even YOU trust Zeelot to do the right thing. Man, that's good to know!

[quido]

You're the one questioning his integrity and saying you should be provided with (worthless) evidence. I am merely pointing out to you how flawed your stance is here. The evidence is in the unbanning, not whatever he posts.

I know Zeelot is legit and don't need proof from the mouth of the accused.

[Alarti0001]

So, you're saying I should expect that your guild leader will post false evidence? Or should anticipate he will attempt to hide so-called 'dirty' transactions?

Interesting take, Jeremy. Not even YOU trust Zeelot to do the right thing. Man, that's good to know!

No you are asking for useless information at evidence so you can shift the goal posts later. Troll101