Necros....

[Fuzy]

I've been itching to roll a necro from the beginning on PVP but after hearing how broke and rotten they are on R99 I never did. I guess there was a big patch in December that addressed some of their issues. Can anyone talk about the improvements? Are Necros inching closer to the godliness they once were in the days of old?

OR

Should I just keep my 30 something rogue with no epic and terrible gear?

[daasgoot]

necro's pretty good.

[Timelord]

No one plays necro so no one knows.

Stay with Rogue because they are wanted for guilds and groups more.

[Videri]

Necros are strong in PvP. Lifetaps are unresistable; Darkness snare is worth a shot; few players have enough PR or DR to avoid your DoTs; and utilities like Shadowstep, damage shield, and the confusing skeleton form make you pretty great in 1v1 pvp. I imagine they're even better in group PvP because there would be others to protect them. Necros get kills. The only drawbacks would be yellow text-related: if a player zones before dying to your DoT, you don't get YT; sometimes when a player zones with very low hp, all buffs and DoTs on them are erased (so they don't die); and a player can always zone plug when you DoT them, then wait for a friend to come to the zone line and be ready to heal them. But you still win the fight. Yellow text isn't as important as zone control.

And thinking long-term, your necro could actually farm up gear/money to support your rogue...

[Timelord]

Necro suffers from long cast times on life taps and high mana cost. With the high level healing dot you have some flexibility but generally you will get nuked or meleed down before you get most spells off.

Another big problem is the wide usage of cure pots. You can cast half your mana bar on someone and they negate your effects with a few clicks of a potion. Its not cheap but at 60 you prolly have more cash on you then the cost of a click so it is worth it.

[Thrilla]

necros scale so much better than wizards in pvp in velious also ;)

wizard will get you more kills and finishes in a group pvp scenario but a well played necro can go toe to toe with any class 1v1, especially with some of the melee changes to the hit box

ditched bis geared wiz to play necro, not as fun pve but payoff in vel with massive +hp and regen gear will b fun

[Crazycloud]

necros scale so much better than wizards in pvp in velious also ;)

wizard will get you more kills and finishes in a group pvp scenario but a well played necro can go toe to toe with any class 1v1, especially with some of the melee changes to the hit box

ditched bis geared wiz to play necro, not as fun pve but payoff in vel with massive +hp and regen gear will b fun

[Genedin]

necros scale so much better than wizards in pvp in velious also ;)

wizard will get you more kills and finishes in a group pvp scenario but a well played necro can go toe to toe with any class 1v1, especially with some of the melee changes to the hit box

ditched bis geared wiz to play necro, not as fun pve but payoff in vel with massive +hp and regen gear will b fun


What do you mean regen gear? I don't know much on velious

[Kergan]

zlandi heart (http://wiki.project1999.com/Zlandicar%27s_Heart) pal

You get HP regen as an iksar equal to lich with zlandi and innate regen bonus:

5 HP from zlandi
Level 60: 18 sitting, 14 feigned, 12 standing

Lich is -22 hp/tick and restores 20 mana/tick which is almost twice as good as c2 on you permanently. It's hawt.

[Kergan]

Unless he meant mana regen than:

flowing thought gear pal

[fred schnarf]

necros' are shit hence why everyone rerolls them

weak taps with long cast times

in vel with chardok revamp you get gangrenous touch of zum uul, which is alot better

but going against high resist high hp big dmg melee? naw

[Kergan]

I played a necro on RoZ which is even more imbalanced towards melee than here and I did ok. It's not a 1 button or auto attack class 4 sure.

[FAPhoenix]

My first character is a Necro. With limited gear since I am new I have managed to go 10-4 and lost quite a few to gates and plugging. People gave me some advice to prevent hates in PvP though....so looking forward to it. Only issue gear wise I have had was against a super twinked SK I nearly ran out of mana before he died. Better gear would easily offset this.

The big issue for me is I am less efficient PvE because I run around with my 'PvP' spells up...but I'd rather be ready for a fight than not.

TT

[Darlok]

They're very strong in a group if you're an individual who plays proactively. If you can keep the HOT on people who can use it, dispel it off yourself, rinse and repeat while maintaining good pet control and contributing good dps, groups will appreciate your presence.(especially the shaman) if there is no shaman, keep hp's on whoever needs them with the HOT. If you're a lazier style player I wouldn't pick necro.

[Timelord]

what? necros are amazing...

deflux is a 2 second cast, trucidation is an unresistable ice comet

necros are amazing

they might not be able to 2 shot people like wizards, but against a well geared player with resists a wizard only has lure to his disposal, a necro doesn't have issues with player resists

Trucidation costs an essence emerald which requires you to xp sack a character above level 45.

It is an Ice comet that no one casts because it costs 2 hours of xp to get it.

Other taps do get resisted.


In velious things change a bit because everyone gets all this extra hp gear so they can deal with harder hitting mobs but dps of players doesnt go up as much.

It increases players health pools making you able to tank a bit more and also with more hp you can drain more of your own health for mana without huge risk.

Right now a wizard nukes you twice and you will die on a necro, in velious you could take a few nukes to get off your tap and a dots without dieing too fast.

Not to mention there is hp regen and mana regen for casters to keep those big hp and mana pools topped off.

[Kergan]

You can get from 46 to 47 in literally like 5 minutes now which is probably what 6-7 sac's at least?

[Nirgon]

Its a lure based ice comet that only takes farming rotting skele, pained soul or OOT ancient cyclops on alt to get

[Vayder]

Its a lure based ice comet that only takes farming rotting skele, pained soul or OOT ancient cyclops on alt to get

The essence emerald isn't the worst part... you can cast it what once every 15 minutes?

[Colgate]

necros are extremely underrated here

if i ever make another character, it's going to be either a cleric, an enchanter, or a necromancer

[LostCause]

2 DAs can't beat that either i love necs but just not enough play em.

[Timelord]

necros are extremely underrated here

if i ever make another character, it's going to be either a cleric, an enchanter, or a necromancer

All the 57+ necros I ever talked to on this server (5-6) rerolled or quit due to feeling underpowered in pvp.

[Vayder]

2 DAs can't beat that either i love necs but just not enough play em.

One of those DAs only works at night...

[Kergan]

Just need to talk to da champ Rushx about how a necro does on this server.

[Kergan]

necros scale so much better than wizards in pvp in velious also ;)

wizard will get you more kills and finishes in a group pvp scenario but a well played necro can go toe to toe with any class 1v1, especially with some of the melee changes to the hit box

ditched bis geared wiz to play necro, not as fun pve but payoff in vel with massive +hp and regen gear will b fun

o wait da champ has already spoken please disregard all other posts this thread is over

[LostCause]

One of those DAs only works at night...

your point? still 2 DAs.