IB and TMO are Skilled at Raiding - Debunked

[arsenalpow]

Enter the benevolent hero Chest. I was checking to see if Hate was up so I could clear it with my casual scum guild. Low and behold, Maestro of Rancor is up!

[Tue Mar 03 16:05:56 2015] You told caleros, 'maestro is up you mongos'
[Tue Mar 03 16:06:06 2015] You told caleros, 'and it's class C'

http://i.imgur.com/yRh1bUh.jpg

[Tue Mar 03 16:36:07 2015] Nefarum tells you, 'yea we're heading up right now'

TMO apparently logs in a tracker as well at some point and it's a good ole fashioned race! Should be a simple kill for such elite raiders as TMO and IB right?

http://i.imgur.com/AWkL434.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rj3bUec.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/V7r9Md8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UpfS9y2.jpg

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http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MgxK5vm6lvk/hqdefault.jpg

Maestro of Rancor was finally dispatched by IB around 5:20pm CST, 90 minutes after Class C was notified, almost an hour after porting up.

Class C - The Elite Raiding Tier

[indiscriminate_hater]

pity reply

[Argh]

Please post a video with the song.

[philjackson]

im in thisthread

hey mom

[Pint]

I'm no tmo fan but yesterdays class C trak stats..
22:28:19 trak pop
22:30:13 trak fte
22:31:18 trak death
Maybe bda should move up a class and have a go since tmo/ib are obviously exaggerating their efficiency.

[Hitpoint]

I think you're under the misconception that class C cares about maestro. You probably saw a few people who have never even played monks or pulled maestro, get killed while on their friends alts. This is how it was a year ago at least.

[khanable]

lol quality thread

can't wait for it to turn into 20 pages of shit flinging

[radditsu]

I think you're under the misconception that class C cares about maestro. You probably saw a few people who have never even played monks or pulled maestro, get killed while on their friends alts. This is how it was a year ago at least.


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[Big_Japan]

man i just realized j-law is a month younger than me. this is the beginning of the end

[kaev]

lol quality thread

can't wait for it to turn into 20 pages of shit flinging

I got some extra saranwrap if you want to cover up

[Pringles]

Doesn't count until mob is pulled!

[BurgyK]

http://www.sadtrombone.comSadtrombone.com

[Gimp]

I got four FTEs on my 54 warrior.

Just wanted some yellow text bros.

[Domisk]

Just gonna leave this here.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184025

[Argh]

http://i.imgur.com/kWqRgdL.gif

[Big_Japan]

gif sux. holding sword the right (wrong) way

[Anichek]

Please post a video with the song.

[Pokesan]

Just gonna leave this here.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184025

self suspension? do you think sirken GIVES A FUCK?

[Sadad]

I think you're under the misconception that class C cares about maestro. You probably saw a few people who have never even played monks or pulled maestro, get killed while on their friends alts. This is how it was a year ago at least.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183176
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167315
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166968
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165678
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149849

[Prismaticshop]

ITT BDA cries over 1 maestro, 5 years into classic EQ lol. Gud stuff, thanks OBDA

[Sadad]

So you are looking to buy a hand of Maestro ? Confused by the links.

So which one are you - Exaltis, Enigmas or perhaps the mighty Savrarex?

[arsenalpow]

So which one are you - Exaltis, Enigmas or perhaps the mighty Savrarex?

It's Lazie bro, he had to find an new forum name because everyone had him on ignore.

[thieros]

ITT BDA cries over 1 maestro, 5 years into classic EQ lol. Gud stuff, thanks OBDA

*No Maestro fluffer here!*

[arsenalpow]

You kinda failed to make a point there.

let me spell it out for you since you're missing part of your brain

1) You claim that Maestro isn't important

2) There are numerous threads of TMO selling Maestro hands, you must care at least a bit

3) You mobilize/race for Maestro and fail spectacularly, so spectacularly that you're trying to dodge a raid suspension by going with the self-imposed suspension

4) Typical TMO spin machine claims that the target doesn't matter when they don't get it

[Argh]

I will sell a maestro hand for like 5k, send me a tell.

[Colgate]

who the fuck even cares about maestro? warrior epic sucks dick

[Fazlazen]

^^

I mean I helped friends and Apps with it before. Got Heallun's Warrior his hand. Calrizien before he botched Sev and left the guild I pulled for him and helped him kill. It's literally one of the easiest pulls in the game because Maestro outruns everything else in the zone.

You sound like a pro. Will you teach me?

[Argh]

Probably should've taken less than 30 minutes then.

[arsenalpow]

Probably should've taken less than 90 minutes then.

[Freakish]

Avoid a suspension from what? Typically those suspensions that are handed out are blanket suspensions for the target. Avoid being suspended from a maestro by giving up on going for anything in the plane for a week is fairly harsh.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

who the fuck even cares about maestro? warrior epic sucks dick

I have warrior epic and all I want is feverblade and shissar!

[Ele]

I have warrior epic and all I want is feverblade and shissar!

Lol

[Godefroi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lvNMHyzZwc just for the lulz BDA.

[Troubled]

Uhm. I'm sure it matters to the people that track it and wants to kill it. However we do not reward DKP for Maestro in TMO. The mob is voluntary and usually consists of people wanting to sell it or get it for their warrior. This usually means it consists of people who aren't the usual raid leaders/pullers of our guild. It also consists of people who probably don't have a lot of experience on the classes they are playing.

I would put numbers besides all those points, but didn't want to steal your thunder.

Totally Lazie.

[Kekephee]

I'm disappointed in Chest for not making all of his screenshots be like the first two in having Maestro running around with his head cocked backwards and that dumbshit look on his face so Chest could continue having him go "TROLOLOLOL"

[Pint]

Yeah. Notice how only one guild has stepped up and stepped out of Hate. 2 guilds trained people up there.

asgard fully supports an uncontested class C inny this weekend, someone make it happen.

[Llodd]

let me spell it out for you since you're missing part of your brain

1) You claim that Maestro isn't important

2) There are numerous threads of TMO selling Maestro hands, you must care at least a bit

3) You mobilize/race for Maestro and fail spectacularly, so spectacularly that you're trying to dodge a raid suspension by going with the self-imposed suspension

4) Typical TMO spin machine claims that the target doesn't matter when they don't get it

Ah yes the friendly family guild that cares:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1802149&postcount=333

[wycca]

asgard fully supports an uncontested class C inny this weekend, someone make it happen.

Sounds legit - make it so!

[ArumTP]

Sounds like BDA to step it up into C and get their much needed maestro hands. Nope you like your walled garden, and you wouldn't want to risk that.

Maestro to IB and TMO is probably the same to everyone else is doing rogue epic generals, a hastey money run.

And who cares if they were sucking at it? Its not like your guild was going to even attempt it. The class C sandbox is much emptier thus much less impact on the entire server on raid mobs.

[Nerosys]

Haven't had the urge to come back and play yet but my god man....

This forum is great with morning coffee.

[radda]

who the fuck even cares about maestro? warrior epic sucks dick

http://media.giphy.com/media/USjthj82JrVok/giphy.gif

[Troubled]

Still remember this. Having this conversation while running to Druushk.

[Fri Sep 26 22:09:40 2014] Troubledour -> Lazie: im offended. all my guildies are getting invited to tmo and i have yet to get a single tell
[Fri Sep 26 22:11:45 2014] Lazie -> Troubledour: Oh I never knew people were being asked. Been away a bit
[Fri Sep 26 22:13:44 2014] Troubledour -> Lazie: sir you are out of the loop
[Fri Sep 26 22:14:14 2014] Lazie -> Troubledour: Yep been on vacation
[Fri Sep 26 22:14:52 2014] Troubledour -> Lazie: tmo doesnt go on vacation. they drink spaghetti-os for breakfast. sounds like youre bda material

[Fri Sep 26 22:15:02 2014] Druushk engages Lazie!

[Fri Sep 26 22:15:29 2014] Troubledour -> Lazie: all joshing aside, what the fuck dude. why are you guys gettin stomped
[Fri Sep 26 22:17:16 2014] Lazie -> Troubledour: we arent we just killed Druushk with while I was conversing with you in PMs haha. Some of us were on break.
[Fri Sep 26 22:32:30 2014] Troubledour -> Lazie: its about time you get your ass in gear

Haha awesome.

[kurtis]

Yep. Should be all yours from what I have heard happened up there.

IB didn't train anyone. Might need to double check those facts of yours.

[Juevento]

asgard fully supports an uncontested class C inny this weekend, someone make it happen.

Shit if a former gimpatron member is gonna get a free mob, BDA might have to go class c and shut that shit down.

[kurtis]

You are one funny guy when you lie.

Didn't you say you weren't there and a bunch of alts and people unfamiliar with the zone and the pull were? And yet you seem convinced IB trained everyone.

I'll say it again, nobody goes full retard like Lazie does.

[Bohab]

I don't get it? Chest if you think they are so bad why don't you compete against them instead of real casual guilds that belong in Class R? Oh wait that's right... you want to abuse the system and collect loot nearly uncontested...

[kurtis]

I don't get it? Chest if you think they are so bad why don't you compete against them instead of real casual guilds that belong in Class R? Oh wait that's right... you want to abuse the system and collect loot nearly uncontested...

Water is wet, Chest is a pixel craved retard. Some things are already well established.

[Man0warr]

I don't get it? Chest if you think they are so bad why don't you compete against them instead of real casual guilds that belong in Class R? Oh wait that's right... you want to abuse the system and collect loot nearly uncontested...

Training around zones is exactly why we don't want to "compete" in Class C.

That is the #1 tactic for everything in your class:

Train/root all the trash on the way to VS with bards, kill it then run out/gate/wipe your competition.

Train all the mobs in Fear so you can kill CT, kill it then camp NWall/gate/wipe your competition.

Train all the mobs in Hate so you can kill Inny, kill it then gate/wipe your competition.

Train shit around in VP.

The only places this isn't your go to tactic is the open world mobs, which when you can't leverage your superior "tactics" you regularly get beaten to mobs by IB/Taken.

[Man0warr]

Good thing this strategy doesn't work too well in Velious (you can do it with some success in Kael).

I'm really interested in how Class C is going to operate on races to Tunare/Yelinak/ToV mobs when you can't employ your #1 strategy.

[Man0warr]

It is amazing how inaccurate people in your guild is about raiding.

So you have figured out how to train NToV around while you kill dragons? That's good to hear.

[Orruar]

I'm really interested in how Class C is going to operate on races to Tunare/Yelinak/ToV mobs

You're one of those people who watches Honey Boo Boo, aren't you?

[sabil28]

Sigh, Someone bump the ROFL trakanon BDA thread with 60 people and their MAINS wiping to trakanon.

As a TMO member that was there. Yes it was completely embarassing, we had sub 60's not the right classes, 0 pullers that have done the pull, 0 raid leader, and 2 guilds in the way of the pull. = Disaster

TMO did the right thing by backing off, and suspending ourselves, but way to make it out to seem like we are bad people.

We made a mistake, and we handled it the right way.

[Man0warr]

This server should have a mandatory

"Let a BDA member tag along with TMO while they raid a week"

An apprentice program so to speak to teach you the mechanics of EQ. Since obviously your officers do such a poor job of it.

Sure, please enlighten me. I killed every raid mob in Velious before Luclin dropped outside of AoW, 1 Warden, and Vulak but let's hear it.

[Bohab]

Training around zones is exactly why we don't want to "compete" in Class C.

That is the #1 tactic for everything in your class:

Train/root all the trash on the way to VS with bards, kill it then run out/gate/wipe your competition.

Train all the mobs in Fear so you can kill CT, kill it then camp NWall/gate/wipe your competition.

Train all the mobs in Hate so you can kill Inny, kill it then gate/wipe your competition.

Train shit around in VP.

The only places this isn't your go to tactic is the open world mobs, which when you can't leverage your superior "tactics" you regularly get beaten to mobs by IB/Taken.

Oh no! Somebody is using tactics BDA doesn't approve of! Lets face it... you will adapt the same tactics in class R if you ever have to, it's just a matter of time.

[Detoxx]

Shit if a former gimpatron member is gonna get a free mob, BDA might have to go class c and shut that shit down.

Lol gl. IB will have it dead before you scrubs know is up

[Mendo]

Shit if a former gimpatron member is gonna get a free mob, BDA might have to go class c and shut that shit down.

BDA has stated that they won't go class "C" because they don't like to poop sock. They have a different play style.

[Detoxx]

At least Taken tried an FFA trak (and did suprisingly well). I hope they try more, get keys and come to vp. You BDA paper champions talk so much shit, then wipe to uncontested traks with 70 and vs with 50. Plebs.

[BurgyK]

BDA has stated that they won't go class "C" because they don't like to poop sock. They have a different play style.

A different style of pooping in a sock i assume?

[Man0warr]

Oh no! Somebody is using tactics BDA doesn't approve of! Lets face it... you will adapt the same tactics in class R if you ever have to, it's just a matter of time.

I get why you do it, it's the most efficient way to make sure you get the kill. Since the GMs don't punish for the collateral damage it causes, then why stop (although it seems they enforce it on Trakanon, if you train poop mountain in your attempt).

[Man0warr]

You BDA paper champions talk so much shit, then wipe to uncontested traks with 70 and vs with 50. Plebs

Your numbers keep going up, we have never had 70 people at any raid as far as I know - I think we had in the low 60s for the last Sunday server repop.

I'd hardly consider that VS we failed a "wipe", since we got hit by 40 mobs from behind from the other guild's bard trains. But that's FFA VS in a nutshell.

[radda]

I killed every raid mob in Velious before Luclin dropped outside of AoW, 1 Warden, and Vulak.

i doubt this, but what proof do you have?
you do know none of your past life matters? we've all done this before..

http://im.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-2926399886.gif

[Detoxx]

Your numbers keep going up, we have never had 70 people at any raid as far as I know - I think we had in the low 60s for the last Sunday server repop.

I'd hardly consider that VS we failed a "wipe", since we got hit by 40 mobs from behind from the other guild's bard trains. But that's FFA VS in a nutshell.

I don't care if all of kc was on you. They are all stunnable, all aoe snareable and all level 47 mobs. VS has what? 18k hp? If you can't burn down a vs with 50 people while 2 enc aoe stun, that's because you lack the wherewithal and leadership to do so.

[skipdog]

Training around zones is exactly why we don't want to "compete" in Class C.

That is the #1 tactic for everything in your class:

Train/root all the trash on the way to VS with bards, kill it then run out/gate/wipe your competition.

Train all the mobs in Fear so you can kill CT, kill it then camp NWall/gate/wipe your competition.

Train all the mobs in Hate so you can kill Inny, kill it then gate/wipe your competition.

Train shit around in VP.

The only places this isn't your go to tactic is the open world mobs, which when you can't leverage your superior "tactics" you regularly get beaten to mobs by IB/Taken.

rofl classic BDA member who eats up all the bullshit his guild's leaders feed him...

[Ravager]

rofl classic BDA member who eats up all the bullshit his guild's leaders feed him...

It's one thing to believe what you're told. It's another to see it first hand.

[Man0warr]

No. You just don't understand those zones' mechanics it seems. As I said I will try to get a program together for your guys since Kunark is almost over I am sure we won't mind mentoring you guys on mobs that are soon to be obsolete to us since you guys won't be seeing much Velious content.

I understand it's needed in VP (we cleared all of VP, remember? We diverted trains all around to do those pulls, wasn't difficult at all if you can setup in pillow room.) since the respawn is so short.

Like I said, I understand why it's done in the other zones I listed too - there's no point trying to kill all the mobs in the way if you are just going to get leapfrogged. But that's a big reason why we don't want to be in Class C.

[skipdog]

It's one thing to believe what you're told. It's another to see it first hand.

By 'believe it' you mean, be in a raid with Chest and have Chest inform the guild that TMO trained us? Yeah, I saw that first hand plenty of times.

[Man0warr]

Explain to us what you saw like you understood it. I'm sure you saw something and had it harped in your vent by people what was going on when it wasn't reality. Especially if the "Nice Train, Thanks TMO" Chest was doing the talking.

That FFA Inny we killed last month was a classic example. TMO/IB/Taken wiping themselves with trains - all the BDA up there saw it firsthand.

[Man0warr]

You are wrong in why it is done fundamentally.

Whatever you say.

[Man0warr]

I don't think you do either.

[Ella`Ella]

Neither of you lift.

[Kushie]

I lift lightweights like you.


I doubt you lift your fat ass out of that bed-chair ratnest very often bruh.

[kurtis]

I called the anon Lazie first, what's my prize?

[kurtis]

Oreos please.

Double stuffed.

[TMBLOW]

Fingerz you weren't even close to first. Most just PM'ed me that know me.

so Lazie since your 'anon' account is no longer anon why not make another 'Lazie' and talk from that one

ClownGuild was interesting when it was anon trolly towards IB, now its just a bunch of TMO circle jerking with an uninspired name

Lets think of some new forum handles for Lazie guyz- ClownGuild has run it's course...time to move on

[mrmop520]

so Lazie since your 'anon' account is no longer anon why not make another 'Lazie' and talk from that one

ClownGuild was interesting when it was anon trolly towards IB, now its just a bunch of TMO circle jerking with an uninspired name

Lets think of some new forum handles for Lazie guyz- ClownGuild has run it's course...time to move on

FELayze?

[mrmop520]

Good good! made the past 2 weekends of kills n such. Otherwise chillin, brewing beer, and reluctantly trying to earn $.

[Aadill]

mothafuckin makin beer and earnin money awww yiss

[TMO so immersed]

Lazie responds to threads super fast. he must be fat

[Big_Japan]

TMO member attempts to extricate himself from computer chair after dragon socking

http://giant.gfycat.com/MenacingElectricAnaconda.gif

[Jfertal]

Neither of you lift.

Straight toad status all upper body, no legs.

[Herp]

How does BDA trash talk while watching from the bench. At least Taken is trying FFA and is often getting kills (mostly because class C has 10 things in window that day and is tired and spread out as hell, with mains in VP).

I cannot wait till Velious where BDA has to put up or shut up.

[Pint]

Shit if a former gimpatron member is gonna get a free mob, BDA might have to go class c and shut that shit down.

hell yea, asgard also fully supports bda moving up to class C any time they think theyre ready, please come as soon as possible. as an aside i think gimpatron is indig, a-team and omni or something like that.

[Tongpow]

yall kill anything yet pint?

yeah...

[ArumTP]

Asgard killed fay that got us into C, and maestro. Staying in R, we got nothing when BDA/Taken said fuck it we are taking everything now. How many other guilds now get nothing in R? We are much better off than we were. Should earthquakes happen its an open field for us when IB and TMO are in VP.

[Troubled]

yall kill anything yet pint?

yeah...

More than Dolj ever killed.

[Tiggles]

Asgard killed fay that got us into C, and maestro. Staying in R, we got nothing when BDA/Taken said fuck it we are taking everything now. How many other guilds now get nothing in R? We are much better off than we were. Should earthquakes happen its an open field for us when IB and TMO are in VP.


Believe me you guys don't have to wait for earthquakes.

With everything spawning on Sundays now and ib/TMO dedicating most of their time in VP you could easily snag something.

[Ella`Ella]

Straight toad status all upper body, no legs.

I'll be in LA the first week of April - put it in the books.

[Mendo]

yall kill anything yet pint?

yeah...

How long have you been in TMO since you left Asgard? Do you have your epic yet?

[rictus204]

yall kill anything yet pint?

yeah...

http://i.imgur.com/PLqgqvw.jpg

[captnamazing]

Great point Chest. It is clear that both TMO and IB are fucking pathetic; they are trembling masses of gooey fat piloted by angry apes wielding marionette strings.

[TMBLOW]

How long have you been in TMO since you left Asgard? Do you have your epic yet?

hey! Go easy on your former guild mate turncoat, its not his fault you guys took him under your wing in Asgard and showed him that dragons require 'bellycasting' in order to get his spells to land.

Had your leadership not shown him the light, he probably would have not made it 1 week in TMO after his new guildmates witnessed his 'skill'.

[Uteunayr]

hey! Go easy on your former guild mate turncoat, its not his fault you guys took him under your wing in Asgard and showed him that dragons require 'bellycasting' in order to get his spells to land.

Had your leadership not shown him the light, he probably would have not made it 1 week in TMO after his new guildmates witnessed his 'skill'.

Does anyone have the link? That video was great, but I can't find it in my bookmarks.

[TMBLOW]

Does anyone have the link? That video was great, but I can't find it in my bookmarks.

its on his Youtube channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYP8hEo4RZY

[zanderklocke]

Did no one tell that guild about MR gear before they fought Faydedar?

Ha

[Arteker]

let me spell it out for you since you're missing part of your brain

1) You claim that Maestro isn't important

2) There are numerous threads of TMO selling Maestro hands, you must care at least a bit

3) You mobilize/race for Maestro and fail spectacularly, so spectacularly that you're trying to dodge a raid suspension by going with the self-imposed suspension

4) Typical TMO spin machine claims that the target doesn't matter when they don't get it

can someone post old shit of chesticles claiming aalpha cheated in inny and we deserved suspension from like 2 years ago?.

[Big_Japan]

yall kill anything yet pint?

yeah...

WATCH OUT EVERYONE!

THIS GUY GOT A PHARA DAR KILLSHOT!

:o

[Ella`Ella]

Can someone please post a collection of chest's best rants/rages/retardations?

[Tasslehofp99]

can someone find me the list of bannable-offenses that ella'ella had derubael sweep under the rug in exchange for sex?

lol

[Pint]

yall kill anything yet pint?

yeah...

no reason to still be sore, p sure we literally let you random for your gnarled staff and you lost to the better wizard. just keep answering batphones and you'll get yours.

[arsenalpow]

Can someone please post a collection of chest's best rants/rages/retardations?

Dragged off the old BDA website, Unbrella's app thread! I'm only posting the negative comments since it's an obvious smear campaign

was grouped in seb with this person today wasnt all that impressed, kept going on about how awesome of a cleric he was and what great skills he had, and then he let the tank die because he was busy rolling on loot before we even had the mob down to 80%.

I've only grouped with him once, in Chardok, and he went afk without letting us know and the group wiped.

Tanked with him in Karnor's Castle and Sebilis over the Labor Day weekend. Died three times in three days. Seems to be a little slow on complete heals, but I guess it's a good baseline for a month long app.

He pissed off Slydexx "called him a badword " got /removed.
Unbrella Claims to not have said "Badword".
I don't care either way. Just fyi for future.
Sucks because I spent a good while setting up his AOE keys for him.

i've seen the screenshot of him talking shit to slydexx, if you are new to a guild you should be on your best behavior and not call the recruiting officer an asshole
sucks that he's a cleric but you better come correct if you plan to stick around

As of now I'm voting no on him when it comes up. I've gotten nothing but bad vibes from this guy and have grouped with him several times. I dont trust him not to a) cause drama b) be bad

[portbitch69]

can someone find me the list of bannable-offenses that ella'ella had derubael sweep under the rug in exchange for sex?

http://i.imgur.com/9hRi2jN.gifv

[Ella`Ella]

Dragged off the old BDA website, Unbrella's app thread! I'm only posting the negative comments since it's an obvious smear campaign

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_FN7N5qQ24g

[radditsu]

I never had one bad comment said about my skills. Maybe I should lead TMO.

[Tongpow]

Do you have your epic yet?

nope, on the bright side i haven't had to random and lose to someone with less raid attendance and dkp than me though lol

[Pint]

nope, on the bright side i haven't had to random and lose to someone with less raid attendance and dkp than me though lol

on the bright side for us, that wizard is a team player and still with the team, you just wanted dem pixels $$

[Nuktari]

http://i.imgur.com/9KHm7JM.png?3


Ahhhh, this thread.


http://media0.giphy.com/media/C1vxoD6z8bznq/200.gif

[Locust]

lol quality thread

can't wait for it to turn into 20 pages of shit flinging

helping 2 make your dream an reality brew

[Fazlazen]

rolf I just watched that Ecko fraps of faydedar... Clearly TMO at its best!

[towbes]

+1 moving this train towards page 20! Keep up the good work everybody

[Detoxx]

rolf I just watched that Ecko fraps of faydedar... Clearly Doljonijijimaroinar at its best!

[bktroost]

I'm no tmo fan but yesterdays class C trak stats..
22:28:19 trak pop
22:30:13 trak fte
22:31:18 trak death
Maybe bda should move up a class and have a go since tmo/ib are obviously exaggerating their efficiency.

So everyone knows that Trak can be killed with just two groups, mathematically. But what this says is that in two minutes of CotH+spyglassing the people that they brought up contained the right composition to down him and had the few people with DA idols and bladestoppers to grab tola and friends.

The kite/peel/engage takes 2 people who know what they are doing and when you take lots of people+lots of experience you get a lot of people who are cross trained to do that job.

TMO/IB are clearly the ones with the largest amount of experienced people on the server.

Because of the rotation collapse, a lot of guilds have had to do some serious digging and these encounters are far more trial and error to get the process right than anything.

The process of teaching players to DA and engage and wait for the right time to jav then bladestopper and kite then DA to throw away aggro then pop DA off to grab aggro, kite more then flop to toss aggro back and keep the mobs running is actually pretty fun. But it takes time for ALL your players to get it right.

I imagine that this is what we are seeing with TMO/IB in pulling maestro, right? New members learning from trial and error how to do the perfect pull, ect.

Taking your time to teach people in a non-OMGERZZEERRRG way is a fantastic testimony to the way that Class C are handling themselves right now. Seems far more of the original Class R mentality to me than I'm experience in Class R right now.




tl;dr= Class C is doing Class R things and Class R is doing Class C things. ?_?

[bktroost]

Side note question. If the original idea that starting the change in Class R was to get us prepped to deal with TMO/IB in Velious, then why does the Taken/BDA/Divinity alliance keep helping each other on the raid scene by killing Tola/friends when that is a very important mechanic to learn. Without them it's "who can mobilize faster and hug the left wall." Seems counter intuitive.

[Tiggles]

Side note question. If the original idea that starting the change in Class R was to get us prepped to deal with TMO/IB in Velious, then why does the Taken/BDA/Divinity alliance keep helping each other on the raid scene by killing Tola/friends when that is a very important mechanic to learn. Without them it's "who can mobilize faster and hug the left wall." Seems counter intuitive.

Let them squabble I can't wait to eat them alive come Velious.

[Juevento]

I can't wait to eat

Down boy.

[Kekephee]

Oh sweet baby Jesus

[arsenalpow]

BDA just killed Maestro in under 10 minutes, casual scum record.

[Tiggles]

Down boy.

Oh sweet baby Jesus

BDA just killed Maestro in under 10 minutes, casual scum record.

BDA officer core triple post.

Immersed.

[Juevento]

After all the whining I see Chest and co put up with from the likes of Unbrella and Raev, there is no way in hell I would waste me leisure time to be an officer of a guild on this server.

[arsenalpow]

BDA officer core triple post.

Immersed.

So juevento and keke are officers in BDA like you're an officer in TMO?

[skipdog]

After all the whining I see Chest and co put up with from the likes of Unbrella and Raev, there is no way in hell I would waste me leisure time to be an officer of a guild on this server.

You won't be an officer because you are afraid of forum posters being mean?

Sorry, but that is just hilarious.

[Man0warr]

Don't think it has anything to do with forum posts.

[Phantasm]

Well they are all voodoo heads I don't blame him

[Phantasm]

Doodoo* fuuuuuu

[kaev]

WTB voodoo heads of Raev and Unbrella

[Kekephee]

So juevento and keke are officers in BDA like you're an officer in TMO?

You obviously didn't see the Hitler video where I was named as a BDA officer QED I'm a BDA officer

[Oleris]

http://i.imgur.com/2gJ5EwA.jpg

[Troubled]

Well they are all voodoo heads I don't blame him

We're no picnic to deal with, either. Ever tried to get a a piece of loot from us? You can pry that shit from my cold dead hands.

[Aadill]

So juevento and keke are officers in BDA like you're an officer in TMO?

Tiggles isn't an officer in TMO because he's too likable.